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Judge Mathis Can See Clearly Now & Bad Job Done · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast this week on your
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  Speaker 1: Gabble Gabble. If you accuse your ex boyfriend of faking
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  Speaker 1: being blind, does that make you the worst person or
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  Speaker 1: the worst person? In Judge Matthes's courtroom, justice is blind.
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  Speaker 2: And if you hire someone to do a job for
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  Speaker 2: you they do a bad job, do you still have
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  Speaker 2: to pay them for that bad job?
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  Speaker 1: Judge Judy tells us real people, real cases. Thank Justice.
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  Speaker 1: This is all right. Everybody sat down? Why do you
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  Speaker 1: stand up? Sit down? Oh my goodness, I said, all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that's what we you know. Sit down, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, It's great to be back here in the
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  Speaker 2: chambers of the gavel.
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  Speaker 1: Chambers of the gavel. That's exactly right. Uh where are
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  Speaker 1: you going again? Math maths? I love Mathews. This is
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  Speaker 1: a case I found on the YouTube that was from
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  Speaker 1: a decade ago and they have an update on Ah wow,
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  Speaker 1: let me can I just can I get out of
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  Speaker 1: the way, go go for it. Judy's bad and so
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  Speaker 1: let's just Judy every time we get let's give her
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  Speaker 1: another go, try to give her another. Judy is my homegirl.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy to Torres sold like hotket Jeremy de Torres is
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  Speaker 2: suing Chad Smith for seven nine nine dollars that is,
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  Speaker 2: for lost wages and a unlawful or unnecessary restraining order.
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  Speaker 2: Chad Smith is counter suing for five thousand dollars for
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  Speaker 2: vandalism and bad job done.
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  Speaker 1: Bad job done. That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy says he worked for Chad Smith for over a
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  Speaker 2: month doing different jobs from Chad Smith is contractor tour
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  Speaker 2: and our guy Jeremy over there is, you know, doing
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  Speaker 2: odd jobs here and there, and and he's a independent contractor.
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  Speaker 2: Chad would pay you know, in cash. And and Judy
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  Speaker 2: every time we watch Judy there is there is an
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  Speaker 2: example of her pressing someone on details and then being
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  Speaker 2: annoyed when they answer. So this and this happens for
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  Speaker 2: far too long in this case. But she's like, how
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  Speaker 2: did he pay you? And Jeremy says, sometimes in check,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes in cash, independent contractors. So and then she goes
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  Speaker 2: over to Chad and it's like, explain to me how
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  Speaker 2: you're paying people. And he's like, well, check, sometimes cash.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're all independent contractors. Yeah, and she and then.
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  Speaker 1: She says, do you take out taxes? And he says no,
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  Speaker 1: he says I.
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  Speaker 2: And she then gets annoyed and she's like, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know what toennight, And I is like, you're not
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  Speaker 2: the first person to come in here and talk about
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  Speaker 2: ten I and I and paying people in cash. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, yo, Judy, Judy, Jude, did you you
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  Speaker 2: asked the question?
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  Speaker 1: That's right. It's not like he was trying to hide anything.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, ten ninety nine them in a be
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  Speaker 1: a contract. Yeah, And she was just like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: she is the stuff she asked for. She's mad. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: always don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it anyway, She's.
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  Speaker 1: Not her homegirl.
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  Speaker 2: So Jeremy claims that he did a job in August
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  Speaker 2: over the course of three days, and he is owed
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  Speaker 2: eight hundred and thirty dollars for those jobs.
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  Speaker 1: D yes, so to ten a day, it's what six thirty?
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  Speaker 2: Uh so maybe it was four days. It might have
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  Speaker 2: been four days ecctually. She says two ten per day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just taking her work for it. He says three days.
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  Speaker 2: She says two ten. So someone's wrong, Tomato. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly right. That's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm just telling you what what what it has
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  Speaker 2: been told he says, over the course of three days.
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  Speaker 1: It's either six thirty or eight forty. If it's two
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  Speaker 1: ten a day, well let's just find out what happened
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  Speaker 1: to day. You put that, take that away. We just
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  Speaker 1: find out what happens. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, She's like, hey, do you have like a log
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  Speaker 2: or something that shows that you did the work? He says,
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  Speaker 2: I got a notepad, but it's just shorthand showing the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I did. She's like, can I see it?
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, this isn't helpful. She's like, what about
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  Speaker 1: like when you get a job, Like, how do you
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  Speaker 1: know you get a job?
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  Speaker 2: And he says, I get an email, but it was
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  Speaker 2: on a cell phone that he that Chad gave me,
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  Speaker 2: and when he fired me, he came and he took
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  Speaker 2: it back.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't have any proof of nothing. Off to
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  Speaker 1: a great start here, Chad says, yes he did. I
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  Speaker 1: did hire him. He did not work three days, He
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  Speaker 1: only worked one day. He did a bad job, so
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  Speaker 1: I did not pay him.
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  Speaker 2: Plus he calls me and leaves me a threatening voicemail
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  Speaker 2: saying that if I don't send him his money, he's gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Come find me.
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  Speaker 2: He play He plays the voice Smeil. After Judy's got
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  Speaker 2: a granddaughter comes in and helps her play them. In
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  Speaker 2: the new Judy on Freevy, her granddaughter's next to her
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  Speaker 2: to help with any tech needs, I believe best second figure.
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  Speaker 2: So she plays the voicemail for her and Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: he does say if if you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't pay me, I'm going to come to your house.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy says that. Jeremy says, it's the chad. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: will say, and I probably should have just brought the audio.
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  Speaker 2: It does sound like they're it is breaking up a
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  Speaker 2: little bit and that stuff is missing. Judy does not
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge that despite the fact that Jeremy is saying that.
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  Speaker 1: He says that he said with the police that it
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  Speaker 1: kind of yes, he says, I will he added the police,
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  Speaker 1: and he.
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  Speaker 2: Is saying that on the phone, I said I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: come with the police. And we do have a text
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  Speaker 2: message showing that he did say that. Then in Texas
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  Speaker 2: he said, Hey, if you don't pay me, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: come to your house with the police. He says he
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  Speaker 2: also said that in the voicemail. We don't hear that
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  Speaker 2: in the voicemail for my money, It sounded like it
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  Speaker 2: is possible that he did say that in it cut out.
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  Speaker 2: We don't get into that. She says, this does sound
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  Speaker 2: threatening to me. Jeremy says that the restraining order is bogus,
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  Speaker 2: and he gives Judy a bunch of texts showing that
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  Speaker 2: he was never threatening him, that he just wants the
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  Speaker 2: money and he was trying to do it the right way.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm going to go through the police and blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Judy says, okay, but I have the voicemail and it
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  Speaker 2: does sound threatening. He says, okay, but also he claims
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  Speaker 2: that I slashed his tires, which I did not.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the slashing of the tires. The tires
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  Speaker 1: on Chad's car. He comes out one day and they
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  Speaker 1: are slash got them. So a couple of things happen here.
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  Speaker 2: He filed a police or he had called the police,
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  Speaker 2: the police came. They fly filed a police report upon
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  Speaker 2: the initial voicemail call.
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  Speaker 1: Then when he went in to file.
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  Speaker 2: The restraining order after the tires slashed Chad, Chad goes in,
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  Speaker 2: he says, hey, I have this police report, and now
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  Speaker 2: also my tires have been slashed. In the thing, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: don't come near me restraining order. In the restraining order,
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  Speaker 2: it says that the reason for it.
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  Speaker 1: Is flattened tires, And so he is saying that Jeremy
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  Speaker 1: saying the words slashed proves that he did it because
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  Speaker 1: no one else would know that they were slashed by
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  Speaker 1: the restraining order saying flattened. Are you following here, yes,
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  Speaker 1: So he's saying that that is proved proof. Jeremy says, well,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, flattened in a restraining order can only
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  Speaker 1: mean one thing, which is slashed. So yeah, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: reading in between the lines that Judy asks, Chad, do
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  Speaker 1: you have receipts for the tires?
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  Speaker 2: He says, I'm sorry? How much for the tires? He
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  Speaker 2: says for fifty? She has for a receipt He says,
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  Speaker 2: I paid cash. I did not get a receipt. She says,
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  Speaker 2: you have to stop paying cash, and now she is
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  Speaker 2: ready to rule just one more time to lay this
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  Speaker 2: down for you. Jeremy is suing for seven nine and
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars eight hundred and thirty of that is
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  Speaker 2: for three and or four days of lost wages, and
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  Speaker 2: then he's just suing for the rest for Hey, restraining order.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have done that. I hurt my feelings. Basically, what.
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  Speaker 2: Chad is suing for five thousand dollars. Part of that
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  Speaker 2: is for the four point fifty for vandalism. The rest
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  Speaker 2: is for the amount of money that he had to
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  Speaker 2: spend to fix the job, the bad job that Jeremy's going.
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  Speaker 1: I following, yes, but I feel like no one should
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  Speaker 1: get anything here. Judy, I think, is gonna give him
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  Speaker 1: the eight to thirty. What do you what is it?
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna give them the eight thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Judy gives him the two ten one day, one day
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  Speaker 2: because Chad admits to him showing up one day and
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  Speaker 2: not paying him. So, even if the job was bad,
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  Speaker 2: you still have to pay for what you asked for.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna like it. If I thought
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  Speaker 1: he had shown up all three or four days, he
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  Speaker 1: says he did, But he said, Chad says, one day, yes, correct,
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  Speaker 1: And that's where the two that's what that's what's confused,
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  Speaker 1: he said, he said, But but this is where the
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  Speaker 1: your point is valid, because he says, I worked for
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  Speaker 1: three days and I'm owed eight thirty, and she comes
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  Speaker 1: down with two ten for one day and all if
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  Speaker 1: it was four days, she's just a rounding up now
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  Speaker 1: because it's like two o seven and change two seven fifty.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's why anyway, Judy says, and if if
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  Speaker 1: anybody cares about my opinion, I actually found Jeremy to
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  Speaker 1: be quite trust worthy in this scenario. I uh, I
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  Speaker 1: felt and this is just my opinion. I felt that
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  Speaker 1: it is possible that he did a bad.
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  Speaker 2: Job, but Chad really didn't like him, and I think
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  Speaker 2: Chad framed him for.
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  Speaker 1: All a whow, that's just my bold brain. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry, Chadd. If you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 1: don't sue me for defamation. Speaking of bold, let's go
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  Speaker 1: over to Judge Mathes's courtroom, where an old Italian woman
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  Speaker 1: is going to accuse someone of not having a medical
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  Speaker 1: condition that they have. Oh, I like that. Hey, do
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  Speaker 1: you want to go to break first? Sometimes we do that.
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  Speaker 1: We do that all the time. He will be right back,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back the break. We always take it into the gabble.
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  Speaker 1: It's Judge Mathis. Yes, you told me a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about it before the break. Christine Galuzo say hello to
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  Speaker 1: your mother for me. Christine Galuzo is suing her ex
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend for five thousand dollars for lying about being blind.
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  Speaker 1: This is an actual hold on an actual phrase from
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  Speaker 1: the narrator. Is this Gary Bavinzi and sists he's blind? Fantastic?
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  Speaker 1: That is something that actually is said by the narrator
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  Speaker 1: of Judge Math. She is suing her ex boyfriends for
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars because he's lying about being lined. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how that number. It's the max. It's the
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  Speaker 1: max now, but but but for what He's all what
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  Speaker 1: happened to her? No, he's countersuing her for five thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars for unpaid bill's emotional distress. She actually has some
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  Speaker 1: receipts for other things. Intro is this though lying about
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  Speaker 1: being blind and the numbers aren't going to make sense.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know that. I'm just saying I
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  Speaker 1: can't sue you for li Like if you say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I have blue eyes and I find out that you don't,
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  Speaker 1: I can't sue you for that. So a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things union. First of all, like Christine has gotta be
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  Speaker 1: like late fifties to late sixties, like Mom asked for
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  Speaker 1: the manager haircut, right, And Gary has like a sports
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  Speaker 1: coat on. He looks a little like John Taffer from
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  Speaker 1: Bar Rescue if you knocked him down about eight inches,
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  Speaker 1: and then has very dark sunglasses on in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Oh blazer dark because he's oh, because he's blind. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that he wasn't. I was told he wasn't. She
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  Speaker 1: told me he wasn't. One more, he wasn't. He wasn't. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So Christine is like, your honor, I'm a dancer. I've
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  Speaker 1: been a dancer for years. I'm a dancer at a
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  Speaker 1: local hip hop club, which is where I'm at Gary
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  Speaker 1: and Matthis perks up. He says what kind of club?
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  Speaker 1: And she says a hip hop club, and then she
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  Speaker 1: further goes a swing dancing club, and Mathis goes, oh,
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  Speaker 1: got it. She said hip hop club and he was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not. And then she said a swing dancing club
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, okay, different kind of hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: I guess is what you're talking about. So then she
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  Speaker 1: gets into it. I don't know, I don't know. That's
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  Speaker 1: what happens. You can go watch you to table that's
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  Speaker 1: what happened. Maybe listen. I don't know enough about swing
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  Speaker 1: dancing to know whether or not the cool kids call
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  Speaker 1: swing dancing hip hop. Apparently the cool old kids too
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  Speaker 1: old white Italian people. Uh. So then she goes, I've
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  Speaker 1: been dancing there for years. Gary and I met, We
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  Speaker 1: danced there, we had a great time, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe Gary was blind. He says he's blind. He said
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  Speaker 1: he was blind at the time. I don't believe he's
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  Speaker 1: too good at hip hop to possibly be blind. Mathis says,
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  Speaker 1: you don't believe he's blond. Fantastic? She says, no, your honor.
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  Speaker 1: I believe he's a predator. I believe this is how
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  Speaker 1: he gets women and manipulates them by acting blind. I
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  Speaker 1: love that. Mathis is like, did he ever show any
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  Speaker 1: signs of blindness or not being blind? Christine goes, I
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  Speaker 1: have an affid David of a witness of someone witnessing
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  Speaker 1: Gary giving directions to a friend using locations. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: That's fantastic, telling them where to turn and how to
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  Speaker 1: get there. Uh, he uses his blindness. I have so
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  Speaker 1: many affidavits. She's her podium. You can't see it from
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  Speaker 1: all the PaperWorks. She's like, I have a video I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to show you later that will prove what I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about. I have more affidavits of people observing Gary
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: cutting his lawn and pulling the weeds. Now there, there are,
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  Speaker 1: there are ways for I wouldn't. I'm just gonna try
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  Speaker 1: to cut you off where he say anything else? Stupid? No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just silent sunglasses. Huh. Listen, all listen, you had
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  Speaker 1: me at directions. I'm starting to get onto your side.
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  Speaker 1: But Christine says, and for someone that dances swinging hip
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  Speaker 1: hop like he does, I can't imagine. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: him spinning around and having the moves that he does
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  Speaker 1: the dance floor. We then see a video of Gary dancing.
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  Speaker 1: It's impressive even for someone is impressive for anyone. My
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  Speaker 1: man is moving and grooving dark in this club. He
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  Speaker 1: is not just sitting there and leading her. He is
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  Speaker 1: spinning out. He's moving on his own. He's grabbing her hand.
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  Speaker 1: It is unreal. How good of a dancer he is.
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  Speaker 1: What is the percentage of swing dance to hip hop?
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  Speaker 1: It's all hip hop? None hip hop, You've got none.
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  Speaker 1: But what is she sing for? So that wait, wait
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  Speaker 1: for we're geting there. But we see this video and
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  Speaker 1: the crowd literally is laughing. Yeah, and this big. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's where are you at right now? Seeing this dance?
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  Speaker 1: As soon as I see it, I'm like, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: in my head, I'm going, I can't believe this is
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  Speaker 1: happening in real life. In the two things like this
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  Speaker 1: is cases in twenty fourteen, I think, I can't. You
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  Speaker 1: can't bring this to court. This is the one that
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  Speaker 1: has an updates. Judge Mathis. Judge Mathis is all real people,
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  Speaker 1: real cases. There's no fakes, no fakes, and and and
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  Speaker 1: she is doing this and I'm like this is offensive
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  Speaker 1: to like, it's offensive. And then you see the dancing
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  Speaker 1: and the guy's things Gary Bavinzi and he's from the Sopranos,
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  Speaker 1: Like the dude is like, hey, hey, what do you
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  Speaker 1: want from me? Ay? And so speaking of offensive, So wait,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have to go that hard. I went hard.
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  Speaker 1: I know I did. Uh. The crowd starts laughing when
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  Speaker 1: this guy is freaking just destroying it on the dance floor.
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  Speaker 1: You're starting to think he's a liar though, so so
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  Speaker 1: he's they're laughing and I'm like, man, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is this is something. You go over to him as
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  Speaker 1: they're laughing, and he goes, hey, I can do these
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  Speaker 1: moves right now. Where's the camera? Show me where somebody
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  Speaker 1: point to me where the camera is, or come over
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  Speaker 1: and tell me and I'll do the moves right now.
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  Speaker 1: What's the problem. And he's like that, And at this
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  Speaker 1: point that's the first time that I'm like, he might
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  Speaker 1: not be blind. Wow. When he when he says, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I can do these moves right now, where's the camera,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a little too cocky, like that from
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  Speaker 1: what I was expecting to see. Because if you're blind
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  Speaker 1: and you have medical paperwork, yeah, you just sit around
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  Speaker 1: and let her say whatever she wants and then you
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  Speaker 1: go here, here's the doctor saying I'm blind. She needs
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  Speaker 1: to go to jail. For a long long time, I
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  Speaker 1: got to the same hip hop cloud Baffrey week. I
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  Speaker 1: know that I know everything. Yeah, my man is all
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  Speaker 1: over that dance floor. He's just crushing it. Matthis is like, sir,
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  Speaker 1: you matthis is like, doesn't want to be on her
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  Speaker 1: side all He's like, sir, you do know the precise
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  Speaker 1: moment of winning where to grab her hands and her
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  Speaker 1: hips like you do. And Gary goes, You're on her.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's timing. I love that Christine goes cutting your lawn?
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  Speaker 1: Is that timing? Here's a picture of Gary trimming a tree. Yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what say you? Mathis goes, sir, you trim trees, Gary goes,
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  Speaker 1: If it's a low tree, yeah, I can grab those
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  Speaker 1: limbs with a pair of scissors. It's easy. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: he's Mathis Is like, mister Mavinzi like, are you blind?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: He goes, yes, Sir, he says, I'm legal. He goes,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I'm legally blind. I'm not completely blind. I'm legally blind.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: He said. The cells are almost gone that allow me
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to see in Uh, this eye, he says, this eye,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I don't remember which one it is, And in this
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: side they're starting to go. In this eye that I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: have cells left, and I have a blur in front
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of my eyes. I can do these dance moves because
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: my parents were jitterbug champions wow. And they started teaching
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: me how to jitterbug when I was five years old,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and they would take me to dance clubs at five
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: years old. I had full vision when I was My
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: parents are the hip Hop Hall of Fame, hip Hop
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: jitterbug Hall of Fame, exactly right when I was five,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I was doing these moves and I had full vision
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: for most of my life, So yeah, I can do
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: these things. Christine is interrupting him, going hard with the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: blind jokes. She brings up Stevie Wonder makes a Stevie
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Wonder joke. At this point, Mathis loses it on her.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Ma'am Stevie Wonder was blind since birth. Steve like gives
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: her a history lesson on Stevie Wonder. You gotta stop it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: You got it like you cannot. What you're doing is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: not right in this courtroom. It's not right. So Gary's like, look,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I can still see images, like if if you have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a book and you give me a scope and a
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: large print book, I could make out some words to that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But I'm one hundred percent legally blond. And she didn't
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: believe me, your honor before we get into this, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: she took me to the best eye doctor in the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: East Coast and paid for it and hurt the diagnosis
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: herself that I was legally blond. Oh no, And he
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: goes and I have that documentation. Oh no. So Christine
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: brought a witness. It's her daughter, Gina. What is she
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: suing for getting there? Okay? Gina comes up to the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: stand and goes this man walks around telling everyone that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: he's totally blind. He picked out DVDs for me to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: watch with my husband. I've seen him play the lottery.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen him read the Bible. Are you okay? Yeah? Uh? Gary,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it's good. This is a good one. It's a good one.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It's an all time dabble. Gary goes large print Bible
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: with my scope. Sure, I'll read the Bible. Gina's like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: when he goes to nightclubs, he picks up all his
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: women and then that's how he gets all their money.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And Matthews is like, all right, let's get to it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: What do you mean this money. Christine's like, over the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: course of our relationship, I gave him several loans. She's like.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: The first one I gave him was for seventeen hun
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and eighty dollars. It was for credit cards. I have
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a promise, SERI note right here. The second loan is
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for a home. He needed money to start like on
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: his home. He promised me to pay it back. It
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was four thousand and seventy dollars and ninety cents. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: have that promisary. Note Mathis, Oh wait, Mathis turns to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: him and Gary goes, your honor, we combine those two
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: loans into one document, and that document says that I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: owe one hundred dollars a month, of which I paid.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Here's my bank. Oh, but where's the combination combined? He's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: got the combined comt Oh boy. She then says, your honor,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that shows he's taken out one hundred dollars in cash
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: once a month, not that he's paid me. And he goes,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: He goes, why else would I take out one hundred
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: dollars in cash every month? And Christine says, it's because
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: our Gina Christine's otters says it's because he gambles, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Mathis goes at one hundred dollars a month exactly, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh wait, what does the promisory note say?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: The promisory note says he has one hundred dollars a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: month to pay back both of these loans combined, which okay,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: so that is what that says. They're claiming that he
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: does take out one hundred dollars a month, hasn't paid,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but hasn't paid them. Correct, great, and he has nine
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: straight months where he's paid one hundred dollars a month
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that he's taken out one hundred dollars a month. Yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and so now gamble that's right, and he says he's
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: still paying it. So I'm paying one hundred dollars a month.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: They're like, no, you're not. Oh so uh so, then
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we got Gary's counterclaim. Your counterclaim is for unpaid bills
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and emotional distress. And he goes, well, we have utilities
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: for this house we were going to live in together.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: We decided on fifty to fifty. And Christine's like, yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: we did. I have a proof that I paid seven
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two dollars, which is my half of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the fifty to fifty. What's the proof that she has?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: She has the bills and she has them coming out
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of her account, literally, like has proof, and and he says, Gary,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: has she failed to pay? Gary says yes. Christine's like, no,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I have evidence. These are the bills. If he has
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: other evidence, I'd love for him to present them. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: then he goes, well, then she took when she left house,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: she took all the appliances, the refrigerator, of the stove,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: all of these things. Christine's like, I put all the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: money down. He was supposed to split those with me.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: He didn't put any money down. I took him because
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he didn't pay me any money. And Mathis is like,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: did you agree to buy it together? And they said yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and she says yes. So she's suing for five thousand.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Her numbers way higher than that five thousands of max.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You get that all the different things Gary's like, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: he goes tell me about emotional distress. Gary's like, she
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: made two false reports with the police saying that I'd
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: threatened her and did all these crazy things like I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: was going to snap her neck. Not true. I had
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to get a restraining order against her, and then she
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: stayed in the house for three more nights. Anyway, even
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: with the restraining order, Christine I just wrote down, Christine
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: has so many pieces of paper, I mean they're everyway.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So Judge Mathis is now read to rule, well, this
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: is tough. This is a tough one. Yes, Gary wants
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: five thousand, emotional is stressed, and then fourteen hundred dollars
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: in unpaid bills. Christine wants the max. That you can
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: get five thousand dollars for all of these things. And
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's well more, It's way more than that. It's really
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: closer to eight thousand dollars that he owes. This is
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: this is tough.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It's an all timer, man, because obviously we have the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: promisory notes that have been combined, and we have somebody
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: who is claiming and showing that he has taken out
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: one hundred dollars every month, no proof that that money
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: has been handed to them, and they are claiming they haven't.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Received it yet. So I don't know how that works legally,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Like if you can just say, hey, I never got it,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Like do you need to start like asking for receipts
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: for everything, Like, hey, can you just write down that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you got the Like I don't know how this works
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: because this is at this point he said, she said
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: with slightly more proof on his part that he actually
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: took That's very interesting. I think it's actually a little
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: bit of a like it's most of the case, but
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it actually is nothing to it, nothing to it about
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: His the seven was it seven dollars in unpaid seven utilities?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, clearly she has proof that she paid those,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: so that's gonna.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Get thrown out. I think that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: If you are blind and you're being harassed from someone
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: saying that you are not blind. I think that's defamatory,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and I think you should get some money. So I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: think that Judge Ross is just going to Judge Matthews
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: is gonna wipe the slate clean here. I think it's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: gonna be no one knows anything. Anybody just leave each
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: other alone. Christine's getting paid.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: He so basically what he does is he takes the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: total amount that she believes she's owed, and then he goes,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna believe it's too much of a coincidence that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: he takes one hundred dollars out of the first of
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: every month. Yeah, in cash, I'm giving him the nine
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: hundred you took his appliances when you agreed to buy
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: him together. It doesn't matter who put the money down,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you agreed to buy him together. I'm giving him fourteen
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars for that. And then she gets like the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: rest of it, which I put thirty thousand, hundred. No, no,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: because he's the amount she asked for was five. Oh,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but you can give more. Yes. I think she I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: have written Christine six thousand dollars, so I think it's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: six thousand. But that doesn't make sense. Maybe we're at
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: six instead of five. I don't remember. You have an update. Yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: so they spoke to both. We don't get to see both,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: but Christine has a current active restraining order against Gary
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and they've not spoken to each other since.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: As far as we know, he's still blind. What a time,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: As far as we know, he's still blind.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, still you think he's blind? I do? Okay,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, absolutely. I mean that's something that in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: court you should never have to do. You just went
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: she just went so hard, Yes, so hard. Yeah. It's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like people that don't understand the spectrum of blindness. Yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: go into a courtroom and make a a ass of themselves.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's just like interesting, dude, and like you had
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: all the proof you needed for him to pay. Why
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: did you bring blind into this? Yeah? So stupid, that's wild.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we did everybody. We're gonna be back next
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: time with another one. Until then, all rise.
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