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Press Pass | Liam Coen Provides Team Overview Going Into Bye Week · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Hey, coach, just curious pass rush wise in terms of
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: what you saw yesterday, what you've seen the last two weeks,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that tray Von yes is in the club, but
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  Speaker 1: the production you're getting. What changes can you make to
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: generate more of a pass rush in the weeks ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's touch and go right
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  Speaker 2: when we sent.
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  Speaker 3: When we've been able to send some pressure and get
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  Speaker 3: some blitzes and get these guys moving, we've had some
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  Speaker 3: more opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting when you speak to.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the guys in LA after the game
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  Speaker 3: and how much Matthew Stafford saw McVay. Multiple guys, all
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  Speaker 3: they do is talk about our front and what it causes.
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  Speaker 3: I think more you know, in the run and some
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  Speaker 3: of the pressures and packages and guys that are that
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  Speaker 3: are able to do stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a fine it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Balance of being able to send five, send fourth, send pressure,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's zone or man behind. It also impacts sometimes
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  Speaker 3: the front and they're to get home when the ball
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  Speaker 3: has to get held on to it for another click.
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  Speaker 3: I think you look at our third downs and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think in the last two games they're like two
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  Speaker 3: people are like two or three of twenty. It's like
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  Speaker 3: one of the most insane third downs going that you
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  Speaker 3: can see out there. So if we're able to do
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  Speaker 3: it on third downs and get after the quarterback and
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  Speaker 3: impact the receivers in the coverage, we've got to find
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  Speaker 3: ways to do it as well, a little bit better
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  Speaker 3: on first and second down in some of our early
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  Speaker 3: down fronts, looking at what fronts we're playing, or we
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  Speaker 3: you know, getting more four down, five and whatever it
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  Speaker 3: is to be able to create an advantage for our
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  Speaker 3: guys to be able to go. And I think having
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  Speaker 3: tray Von back a little bit more this week and
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  Speaker 3: get him going a little bit more on early downs,
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  Speaker 3: we kind of saved him a little bit more for
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  Speaker 3: the rush downs and we've got to give him some
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  Speaker 3: more opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it has to improve, just like the rest
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: And just to be clear, obviously, you know, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you're very happy with Trayvon, and obviously it's an unfair
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  Speaker 1: assessment given the club the last two weeks. But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the other guys on the edge, knowing both
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  Speaker 1: BJ and Dandy were up this week limited run on defense,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like you're getting enough out of Josh Smooth,
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  Speaker 1: Odd Book and then those two younger guys beyond Trayvon.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think that you're always you want more
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  Speaker 3: every week from everybody when you don't win, right, and
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  Speaker 3: so I think that's the It's not just that group.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's uh, you know, those guys know they
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  Speaker 3: can play better. We can put them in better positions
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  Speaker 3: to be successful. You know, we're we hadn't played great
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  Speaker 3: the last two weeks. These two teams have been able
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  Speaker 3: to stay on course a lot, right, you gave up
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  Speaker 3: eighty something yards rushing and it felt like one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty because they were able to just kind of
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  Speaker 3: stay on schedule. And then when we did stop on
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  Speaker 3: third nine, we have a penalty. So it's it compounds.
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  Speaker 3: When the team is able to stay on schedule, you're
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  Speaker 3: maybe not going to feel as much of a rush.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that those guys know they can play
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  Speaker 3: better and we can help them a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit more as well.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet thank you, thank.
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  Speaker 4: You, Jamal, followed by Mark what was going on coach
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  Speaker 4: going into the bye week after a couple of rough
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  Speaker 4: games which are still four and three. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: don't feel like you got to reinvent the wheels. You
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  Speaker 4: have to kind of remind yourself a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: that that a couple of rough weeks to to not
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  Speaker 4: try and change too much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we just talked about as a as
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  Speaker 3: a staff, was you know, we cannot absolutely not go
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  Speaker 3: back and try to reinvent the wheel here right where
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  Speaker 3: we're sitting at four and three, everything's ahead of us,
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  Speaker 3: you know it. We got to play cleaner football, guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's the reality. And until you play cleaner in between
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  Speaker 3: the whistles, right in between the white lines of playing
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  Speaker 3: more fundamental sound, having a better situational awareness, uh, secuting
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  Speaker 3: and handling the controllables, guys, It's that's where we're at. Like,
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  Speaker 3: we have to pour into that and find out, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: these two days that we have as a staff, all right,
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  Speaker 3: what do we do best? Like, what are the things
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  Speaker 3: that we do best in all three phases? Go and
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  Speaker 3: dive into and pour into those things. How do we
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  Speaker 3: continue to trim the inventory as a group so that
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  Speaker 3: we're not watering down the fundamentals and techniques of our
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  Speaker 3: core principles of the things that's going to make up
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  Speaker 3: eighty five percent of your calls, your call sheet. That's
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  Speaker 3: just how I've been taught to get back on track.
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  Speaker 2: Personally.
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  Speaker 3: There's times, yeah, where you got to go and dig
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  Speaker 3: deep and go reinvent the wheel because you've got a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of holes. Well, I don't think that's the case.
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  Speaker 3: We have not played our best the last two weeks
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  Speaker 3: going into the by which does kind of suck.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a great feeling. But everything's ahead of us
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  Speaker 3: and my thing that this team is going to be. Man, guys,
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  Speaker 3: we have done so many good things. We are a
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  Speaker 3: really good football team, but not when we hurt ourselves
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  Speaker 3: going into the bye week. You got a handful of
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  Speaker 3: games under your belt.
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  Speaker 4: With Trevor running the offense, I mean, what have you
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  Speaker 4: liked that you've seen from him so far? And I mean,
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  Speaker 4: where are those kind of growth points for him maybe
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the way that you need to see
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  Speaker 4: him improve down the stretch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know you looked at the last
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  Speaker 3: really even to going back to Kansas City. The one
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  Speaker 3: interception was, as we know, you know, a tough, tough
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  Speaker 3: call there. But he's taking care of the football we
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  Speaker 3: have thrown from now. I don't want to throw the
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  Speaker 3: ball as many times as we've thrown it, not because
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  Speaker 3: of him, just because of staying balanced, but we were
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  Speaker 3: able to create some explosives in the past week. This
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  Speaker 3: past week obviously became one of those kind of games.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to start faster, like we have got to
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  Speaker 3: start faster as an offense at the quarterback position, not
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  Speaker 3: take a little bit of time to get into the flow.
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  Speaker 3: That's on us to also help.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, Hey, these are the exactly what we're thinking
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  Speaker 2: early on.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, these are the calls, these are the thoughts, this
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  Speaker 3: is the exact looks we're thinking about getting. How do
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  Speaker 3: we prepare better and continue to take advantage of our
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  Speaker 3: operation trying to be an edge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we we.
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  Speaker 3: Were better in and out of the huddle last week.
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  Speaker 3: We're better from that standpoint, but we've got to make
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  Speaker 3: the easy ones easy. And we've also I mean I
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  Speaker 3: thought he stood in there took some shots too. We
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  Speaker 3: also got to you know, we can't take so many
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  Speaker 3: sacks either, you know, from a from all eleven though
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  Speaker 3: sacks are all eleven. It's the route, it's the quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: it's the running back, it's the ol.
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  Speaker 2: Those are things that we can't we can control. Thanks coach.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark, followed by Brent Man.
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  Speaker 5: You make it sound so easy, like a piece of cake.
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  Speaker 5: What about bringing in a kicker? Can you do that
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  Speaker 5: during the bye week?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 3: Got a lot of confidence in camps still, bro. I do,
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  Speaker 3: I really, I just I talked to he was in
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  Speaker 3: here today. You know, he's not going anywhere and we're
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  Speaker 3: not doing anything with it. He's going to get away
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  Speaker 3: from this thing for a few days and go reset
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  Speaker 3: and the good, the bad, the ugly, whatever it is, we're.
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  Speaker 2: Starting fresh when we get back in here. We have
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  Speaker 2: to got a lot of confidence in the guy. I do.
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  Speaker 3: He's very talented. And look when you walk him out there,
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  Speaker 3: you know obviously a guy that's you know, was struggling
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  Speaker 3: a little right, and then you'd love for the first
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  Speaker 3: attempt in the game to maybe be like a thirty yarder.
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  Speaker 2: Something just all right, here we go, I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, he strolls out there in a twenty
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  Speaker 3: one nothing game where you're struggling to find points. You
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  Speaker 3: want to just see points on the board for morale,
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  Speaker 3: and you walk him out there for a fifty yarder
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  Speaker 3: and what you know, Wembley in a game that not
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  Speaker 3: much is going right.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to sit there and say, man, we've lost Kanye
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  Speaker 3: timing and certain he's he knows he's got to.
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  Speaker 2: Make these kicks. It's not he takes so much.
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  Speaker 3: Accountability and so he's gonna kick his way out of
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  Speaker 3: this thing and he's gonna make some big kicks for
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  Speaker 3: us this year.
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  Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd update, you expect him after the buy back.
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  Speaker 3: It's still TBD on this week, you know, hopeful, but
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to be also smart with it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with figuring out, Okay, what's the best to get him
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  Speaker 3: feeling as good as he can to go play at
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  Speaker 3: the highest level.
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  Speaker 5: And then penalties. That was the I think the one
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  Speaker 5: thing you didn't really address there of about easily that's fixable.
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  Speaker 5: That seems to be I mean, it's not easy. That's
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  Speaker 5: been the toughest thing since August, since Jill I rolled around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you look at him when I
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  Speaker 3: was talking to get our game management coordinator this morning,
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  Speaker 3: John Dykman, you know, just talking through when he was
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  Speaker 3: at Detroit and they had a new staff.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the top five.
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  Speaker 3: Teams and penalties in the NFL right now, four of
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  Speaker 3: them are first time head coaches. Four out of the
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  Speaker 3: top five right now in the NFL are first year teams.
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  Speaker 3: So you got controllable penalties, you've got some uncontrollables, you've
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  Speaker 3: got some calls that may or may not have been
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  Speaker 3: and you've got some unreally bad luck when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to penalties.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about in general.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, like the Travis Hunter one.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's just that those ye happen and we are
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  Speaker 3: let's just say, putting it in their hands too often.
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  Speaker 2: And that's with.
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  Speaker 3: Like moving our feet and coverage and and not like
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  Speaker 3: there's a difference between your hands being inside. There's your
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  Speaker 3: hands being outside. Like there's a difference there. That's technique,
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  Speaker 3: that's fundamental. That's not panicking at the moment of a truth.
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  Speaker 3: We've got obviously the unncessary roughness on doing the end
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  Speaker 3: zone that I don't know how to you know, coach
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  Speaker 3: that one any different, But.
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  Speaker 2: You know you've got.
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  Speaker 3: The rough in the past on you know that we
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  Speaker 3: had two illegal ineligible men downfield on screens. Those are controllable.
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  Speaker 3: Those are we can detail those better in practice, the
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  Speaker 3: timing of it, who's getting out when they blitz like
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  Speaker 3: that's on us as coaches as well. So there's a
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  Speaker 3: bunch on it. There's some controllers, some non controllables, there's
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  Speaker 3: some bad luck. The look until we clean up our
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  Speaker 3: football guys, you know, it's just it's gonna be hard.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's the message and the amount of detail
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  Speaker 3: that all I know is how to fix this is
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  Speaker 3: to pour into the fundamentals and the details in the basics,
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  Speaker 3: because it's not like, oh, we've made up some new
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  Speaker 3: annexation of Puerto Rico play.
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  Speaker 2: And we got a penalty on it. It's like we're playing.
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  Speaker 3: Half field and there's a seven cut and we hit
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  Speaker 3: them before the ball gets there, Like.
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  Speaker 2: We can control that.
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  Speaker 3: So the ones we can control by coaching and practicing
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  Speaker 3: and playing like that's on us and we have to
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  Speaker 3: control those.
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  Speaker 5: I'm good, thanks, right, followed by Justin.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Liam, hopefully you can hear me. I'm in the airport.
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  Speaker 6: But what that's that's an interesting note that four out
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  Speaker 6: of five rookie coaches or first year coaches. Sorry, what
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  Speaker 6: do you take from that is that it takes a
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  Speaker 6: while to get the message across.
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  Speaker 3: Or new techniques knew what you're asking to do. New
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  Speaker 3: style of play.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm kind of going off of, is like
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  Speaker 3: you're you're ultimately all new together, and so maybe some
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  Speaker 3: of the like fundamentals get blurred. That's what I'm saying, guys,
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  Speaker 3: we have to simplify the answer for me to fix
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  Speaker 3: penalties is to simplify what we're asking them to do,
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  Speaker 3: so that when you're in a moment of crisis or
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  Speaker 3: time of a big player, so well, you've played this
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  Speaker 3: technique this many times, you know exactly what the call is.
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  Speaker 3: You are anticipating what your opponent is doing, and now
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  Speaker 3: you're playing cleaner. You're playing cleaner. I'm blocking mid zone
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  Speaker 3: and my hand is not out here. My hand is
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  Speaker 3: inside the way that we practice it to be every week.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, guys, there's a lot of teams in this
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  Speaker 3: league that don't have officials at practice every day and
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  Speaker 3: don't put up the penalties in stuff of the week,
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  Speaker 3: And I almost feel like, AH, got to emphasize.
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  Speaker 2: It, Like I don't know how to emphasize it more.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I don't want to have these guys
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  Speaker 3: playing in the back of their minds like if I
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  Speaker 3: do this, I'm going to get a penalty. It's not
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  Speaker 3: about that. It's guys, we got to play cleaner. We
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  Speaker 3: got to play cleaner with our hands, with our feet,
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  Speaker 3: with our minds. Are we getting fatigued physically, fatigue which
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  Speaker 3: is now slowing down the brain and the legs, and
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  Speaker 3: now we're reaching and grabbing for straws. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 3: trying to make a play when you're down twenty one
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  Speaker 3: or fourteen nothing, playing against a good team, A lot
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  Speaker 3: of that goes into it, guys, you know, and so
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, Brent.
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  Speaker 2: But that's my kind of long winded answer. Sorry, no,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: One more thing. Seven games had been different than obviously
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  Speaker 6: the first four or five were a little more similar.
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  Speaker 6: But do you feel like you know your football team,
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  Speaker 6: like who the Jaguars are right now? Or not really yet?
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  Speaker 3: I think there's definitely glimpses of who we want to
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  Speaker 3: be in a lot of ways. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's you've won four games and everything is right in
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  Speaker 3: front of you.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is an actual test of adversity.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when we lost to Cincinnati, I didn't think
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  Speaker 3: you know that there was no question that we should
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  Speaker 3: have won the game right like, you're leading the game
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  Speaker 3: for eighty nine minutes and you lose.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't feel like the ship was movement. It was
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  Speaker 3: still very steady. You've lost two games in two weeks,
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  Speaker 3: not playing very well and against some darn good opponents.
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  Speaker 3: And when you don't play very well and you're not
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  Speaker 3: clean and we're not fundamental time, you're not doing those things,
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  Speaker 3: you're not gonna beat playoff caliber teams like that. And
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  Speaker 3: so I think when I do know this team in
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  Speaker 3: terms of I believe that we compete, that we're tough,
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  Speaker 3: that we care a lot, that we don't quit. The
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  Speaker 3: reality is what we need to do better is we
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  Speaker 3: need to coach the details and we need to rep
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  Speaker 3: the details and put them into action on a more
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  Speaker 3: consistent basis, or else this may be a you know,
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  Speaker 3: this is not a fun result that we're living in
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks.
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  Speaker 7: Time for just two more questions.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go to Justin and then to John.
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  Speaker 8: Shipley Helliam, I know you guys are gonna look at
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  Speaker 8: everything this weekend. You're looking at penalties and all of that.
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  Speaker 8: How do you think you would assess Travis's performance to
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  Speaker 8: this point and kind of do you think you'll kind
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  Speaker 8: of look at everything he's done to this point and
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  Speaker 8: update the plan that you have for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is absolutely going to be a
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  Speaker 3: part of the conversation this evening with both sides of
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  Speaker 3: the football.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I thought that there was.
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  Speaker 3: Some definite flashes yesterday in terms of on offense specifically
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  Speaker 3: had a great pass breakup as well on defense, and
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  Speaker 3: we are going to play the best eleven as much
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  Speaker 3: as humanly possible after the by Like there, there's we've
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  Speaker 3: kind of gotten a sample size, as you mentioned, a
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  Speaker 3: sample size of everything, the totality of the first seven weeks,
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  Speaker 3: of every position, but specifically with him. There was definitely
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  Speaker 3: some really good things the other night, specifically the only
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  Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball. There's still a lot of
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  Speaker 3: things that need to be cleaned up and corrected, and
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  Speaker 3: then we've got to just make sure we're playing the
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  Speaker 3: best guys at all times and see what that looks like.
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  Speaker 3: So that will one hundred percent be a part of
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  Speaker 3: this evaluation and conversation over the next few days.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you last one Shipley.
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  Speaker 7: Alei, thanks for doing this. It seemed like the Ferguson
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  Speaker 7: touchdown yesterday seemed a lot like the A. J. Barner
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  Speaker 7: played a week before. Just how do you guys kind
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  Speaker 7: of go about, you know, the self scouting when you
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  Speaker 7: see a team kind of like picking up on a
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  Speaker 7: tendency and where do you kind of go from there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the same exact play versus a very
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  Speaker 3: similar defensive structure.
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  Speaker 2: It was fourth and one.
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  Speaker 3: We're in our essentially a six to one front, a
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  Speaker 3: front that you know, we use a decent amount and
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  Speaker 3: goal line, short yardage or low red zone situations that
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are using. You know, maybe we
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: need to play a little bit more post safety or
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: you know, something like that in some of those situations
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to not give up the middle of the field. You know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: we sold out a little bit up front and they
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: hit us on the same play, So kudos to Sean
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: and then they did a great job of scheming us up.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: But you know, we don't jump off sides on the
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: previous play, then we're not in that situation. So I
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: definitely think that we've got to look at like that's
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: exactly to your point is the things that we're looking
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: at is Okay, we've gotten hit on a similar type play.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly what the D and D at
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a U Seattle was.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I don't recall the exact D and D.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I want to say it was an early down I think,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was short yardage, but similar play
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And so, okay, you're clearly showing something that's there for
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: them to take and when you get in the heavier sets,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: what are we playing. They played a lot more thirteen
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: personnel the other day.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Than we expected and anticipated. We expected some.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: More twelve with Pooka being out, didn't necessarily envision it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: See a ton of thirteen show up, and that was
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: what they hit that playout of as well. So they
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: were able to max pro it and get Ferguson on
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the lean post and run away. So yeah, that was
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: definitely a brutal one. And that's exactly what we're looking
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: at is in these situations, in these personnel groupings, exactly
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: like what is our best calls and priority calls.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: That we can put these guys in.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: Excellent, appreciate it, thank you, all set.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks coach, all right, guys, thank you, appreciate it. Coach,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: all right, guys, thank you, thank you, all right, guys,