Latest / 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary / Michigan AG Dana Nessel Tells Jews to Put World Before Their Survival
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next
- 0:05Speaker 1: to Greg Karambas of Radio America and Jim Garrity of
- 0:08Speaker 1: National Review. Three Martini's coming up.
- 0:13Speaker 2: So glad you're with us for the Tuesday edition of
- 0:15Speaker 2: the Three Martini Lunch. And Jim, we have said that
- 0:18Speaker 2: this is always going to be a challenging year for
- 0:20Speaker 2: the Republicans in the midterms. It almost always is when
- 0:23Speaker 2: your party has the White House and that there are
- 0:26Speaker 2: certain things you can do to try to make the
- 0:29Speaker 2: cycle go as well as possible for you. There are
- 0:32Speaker 2: some headwinds you might not be able to overcome. But
- 0:34Speaker 2: in general, talk a lot about your record. Talk about
- 0:38Speaker 2: how insane your opponent is. I think everybody agrees they've
- 0:40Speaker 2: done a decent amount about that and try to pass
- 0:43Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff, even if you can't get it
- 0:44Speaker 2: through the Senate, to make the Democrats take a bunch
- 0:46Speaker 2: of terrible votes. And the same thing in the House
- 0:48Speaker 2: of Representatives. The one thing the Republicans I have not
- 0:51Speaker 2: seen do much of is talk about the things they've accomplished.
- 0:54Speaker 2: And you and I have talked about things they could
- 0:56Speaker 2: have accomplished in addition to what they've accomplished. But yesterday
- 1:00Speaker 2: there was a rally in Michigan. Vice President Vance was there.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Mike Rogers was there. And so was Congresswoman Lisa McClain,
- 1:07Speaker 2: who represents a district outside of Detroit. And she was
- 1:10Speaker 2: going through what the Republicans have accomplished since taking the majority.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Republicans have controlled the House, and when we took the
- 1:17Speaker 3: House back, it has been the most productive and aggressive.
- 1:20Speaker 3: We passed the largest working families tax cuts in the
- 1:24Speaker 3: nation's history. We went off after fraud, the fraud that
- 1:32Speaker 3: has been bleeding taxpayers for years. Anybody remember those leering
- 1:36Speaker 3: centers in Minneapolis, in Minnesota?
- 1:40Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:41Speaker 3: And they're not. That's why we need to continue the fight.
- 1:45Speaker 3: We funded the most secure southern border in this country,
- 1:49Speaker 3: and we will continue to do that. We stood behind
- 1:53Speaker 3: men and women who wear the badge instead of standing
- 1:57Speaker 3: behind the criminals. And that's not a talking point. That's
- 2:04Speaker 3: not a talking point.
- 2:05Speaker 1: That's a real record.
- 2:06Speaker 3: And I'm going to share with you. That's why I
- 2:08Speaker 3: get up every day. And that to me is worth protecting.
- 2:13Speaker 2: So, Jim, a lot of this stuff got shoved into
- 2:15Speaker 2: one bill, the one big, beautiful bill. And so it's
- 2:18Speaker 2: a little bit harder to say you would have had
- 2:20Speaker 2: a tax increase if we hadn't done this, because obviously
- 2:22Speaker 2: their tax bill hasn't changed. But that's a good thing
- 2:25Speaker 2: that their tax bill hasn't changed. You're not focused on
- 2:28Speaker 2: the flood of people at the border because that's been
- 2:30Speaker 2: taken care of and now there's funding to do that.
- 2:32Speaker 2: So you got to keep mentioning these things because people
- 2:35Speaker 2: haven't necessarily noticed it in their daily lives. Will it
- 2:38Speaker 2: be enough? I don't know. But you have to go
- 2:40Speaker 2: on offense to some extent about your own performance. And
- 2:43Speaker 2: if Republicans want to make some hay, this is a
- 2:46Speaker 2: good way to do it.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Well, Greg, before I get started, I should observe. I
- 2:49Speaker 1: don't know about you. I can hear Tevi Troy, our
- 2:51Speaker 1: longtime fan and one-time guest. saying, oh, of course, when
- 2:55Speaker 1: Jim and Greg have to spotlight a House Republican, they
- 2:57Speaker 1: pick one named McLean. Now, whether, you know, obviously, so
- 3:01Speaker 1: get the diehard joke out of the way. Look, if
- 3:03Speaker 1: you're a Republican and you're a member of the House
- 3:05Speaker 1: and you're running for re-election, you can point to the
- 3:07Speaker 1: tax cuts, the fact that not just like the border crossings,
- 3:11Speaker 1: like ICE deportations have been controversial, particularly up in Minneapolis.
- 3:14Speaker 1: But you think about, like, if you look at the
- 3:16Speaker 1: chart of encounters at the southwest border put out by
- 3:19Speaker 1: Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the chart is plummets like a
- 3:22Speaker 1: stone the moment Trump gets into office in the second term.
- 3:24Speaker 1: That happened the first term, too. But it's basically been
- 3:26Speaker 1: like a line across the bottom of the chart, as
- 3:29Speaker 1: low as it can get. You have to look hard
- 3:31Speaker 1: to see the difference between the bottom of the chart
- 3:33Speaker 1: and the beginning. It is a dramatic reduction from the
- 3:35Speaker 1: Biden years, and that is an indisputed policy success and
- 3:38Speaker 1: one that the American people were clamoring for before Trump
- 3:42Speaker 1: was elected. Third one, this has actually been a dramatic
- 3:45Speaker 1: reduction in crime. And it's happened in cities that don't
- 3:48Speaker 1: have the U.S. National Guard deployment. So I kind of
- 3:50Speaker 1: feel like that turns into kind of this distraction of,
- 3:53Speaker 1: is it because the National Guard isn't it? It's clearly
- 3:57Speaker 1: a very different approach to law enforcement at the federal level.
- 4:01Speaker 1: We also should point out they've gotten rid of some
- 4:02Speaker 1: of those source prosecutors in places like San Francisco. And
- 4:05Speaker 1: that has had a significant impact. I put this in
- 4:06Speaker 1: my morning jolt from a couple of days about things
- 4:09Speaker 1: in the country that are actually getting better. If you're
- 4:11Speaker 1: a Republican incumbent, should you tie your opponent to Hassan Piker? Sure,
- 4:15Speaker 1: of course. Should you spotlight crazy things James Tallarico has
- 4:18Speaker 1: said to foreshadow another part of our podcast? Sure. But
- 4:21Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough. And I think, yeah, look,
- 4:23Speaker 1: the president's approval rating is not great. People are not
- 4:25Speaker 1: feeling great about the economy. You need to make the
- 4:28Speaker 1: case of here is what we have done. Here are
- 4:30Speaker 1: problems in American life that are not as bad as
- 4:32Speaker 1: they were. when we took office nearly two years ago,
- 4:35Speaker 1: and here's what we want to do to continue the job.
- 4:37Speaker 1: That's like a three-pronged attack. And that's a complete argument.
- 4:40Speaker 1: And my suspicion is that if you aren't out there
- 4:43Speaker 1: talking about what you've done, people will start to conclude
- 4:45Speaker 1: either you haven't done much, which is not the case,
- 4:48Speaker 1: or they'll argue that for somehow you're not proud of
- 4:51Speaker 1: it or you don't feel like it's turned out well,
- 4:53Speaker 1: and that that's going to make it hard to defend.
- 4:54Speaker 1: So I think kudos to Congresswoman McLean, not just on
- 4:58Speaker 1: her excellent surname, but on making the argument Republicans really
- 5:01Speaker 1: ought to be making. from coast to coast between now
- 5:03Speaker 1: and November. Yes, Mrs.
- 5:05Speaker 2: McLean, Mrs. McLean, or should I say Congresswoman McLean from Michigan.
- 5:10Speaker 2: But yeah, excellent point. She points out what the Democrats,
- 5:13Speaker 2: they won't say it now, but what they really want
- 5:14Speaker 2: to do is take a bunch of money from some
- 5:17Speaker 2: people and give it to other people, which is what
- 5:19Speaker 2: the Democrats always do. So you got to get on
- 5:22Speaker 2: offense in multiple ways. You got to define your opponent
- 5:24Speaker 2: and you got to explain what you've done. And so
- 5:26Speaker 2: good job on that. Hopefully more people will will follow
- 5:29Speaker 2: her lead.
- 5:29Speaker 1: All right.
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- 6:46Speaker 2: there for our chaser as well. But for this one,
- 6:48Speaker 2: this is a doozy. Just a couple of weeks ago,
- 6:51Speaker 2: the Democratic Attorney General in Michigan, Dana Nessel, announced she
- 6:54Speaker 2: is not going to the Democratic Convention.
- 6:57Speaker 1: And why?
- 6:58Speaker 2: Because she doesn't feel safe there because she's Jewish and
- 7:01Speaker 2: there are just too many hostile faces and voices and
- 7:05Speaker 2: who knows what they would do at the Democratic Convention
- 7:08Speaker 2: there in Michigan. However, Yesterday, she gave a speech to
- 7:14Speaker 2: Jewish organizations in Michigan. And let's just say her tone
- 7:19Speaker 2: has oddly shifted here. I mean, she never actually said
- 7:22Speaker 2: don't vote for Abdul El-Sayed or anything like that. I mean,
- 7:25Speaker 2: she's a hardcore lefty. But this is a bizarre way
- 7:29Speaker 2: of telling Jewish people how to vote. This story is
- 7:32Speaker 2: from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. And it says in her
- 7:35Speaker 2: own speech, because the main focus of the story is
- 7:37Speaker 2: on Abdul El-Sayed, seeming to apologize, but not really, about
- 7:41Speaker 2: his comments about the terrorist attack against the Jewish school
- 7:44Speaker 2: in Bloomfield. But in her own speech, it says, Nessel
- 7:47Speaker 2: acknowledged that Jews were being forced into a stark choice,
- 7:49Speaker 2: thanks to members of her own party who seek the
- 7:51Speaker 2: destruction of Israel as a Jewish state and place the
- 7:54Speaker 2: Jewish diaspora in jeopardy. Yet, the Attorney General stressed that
- 7:58Speaker 2: the election was bigger than Israel, and invoking Purim's Queen Esther,
- 8:02Speaker 2: urged Jewish voters to put their own feelings of personal
- 8:06Speaker 2: safety aside. Quote, we have a moral imperative to place
- 8:10Speaker 2: the needs of the world above even our own self-interest
- 8:13Speaker 2: and yes, even our own survival, she told the crowd.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Messel said that other societal concerns, climate change, artificial intelligence,
- 8:22Speaker 2: the threat of nuclear war, loom larger than support for
- 8:24Speaker 2: Israel alone and would worsen under continued GOP rule. Quote,
- 8:28Speaker 2: what is defending the historic homeland of our ancestors and
- 8:31Speaker 2: demanding that candidates acknowledge its right to exist if the
- 8:34Speaker 2: planet upon which it rests is no longer inhabitable. And
- 8:37Speaker 2: she said later to that news organization, JTA, I think
- 8:40Speaker 2: it's so easy for people to lash out at what
- 8:41Speaker 2: they perceive are direct attacks on their faith, on their
- 8:44Speaker 2: cultural beliefs, on their historical ancestry. It's very easy for
- 8:47Speaker 2: people to be mad and to say, I reject that.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I just hope people will consider that there are many
- 8:52Speaker 2: other factors at play. So Jim, first of all, she
- 8:55Speaker 2: completely misunderstands the story. of Queen Esther, who worked to
- 8:59Speaker 2: save the Jewish people, a personal list to herself, but nonetheless,
- 9:03Speaker 2: no one was asking the entirety of the Jewish people
- 9:06Speaker 2: to sacrifice themselves here. But the idea that the democratic
- 9:09Speaker 2: agenda is more important than your survival, this is definitely
- 9:13Speaker 2: a bad martini, but there's a lot of crazy here too.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it feels like, look, there's only
- 9:19Speaker 1: gonna be a certain number of lifeboats, and some of
- 9:22Speaker 1: you are not gonna make the cut, it appears. I'm
- 9:26Speaker 1: glad you— because I saw a really intense argument amongst Jewish leaders, theologians,
- 9:33Speaker 1: and commentators about whether she was appropriately interpreting the Queen
- 9:37Speaker 1: Esther one. And I'm not Jewish. I won't get into that.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I'm just going to observe. When you're saying to people,
- 9:42Speaker 1: we have this political priority, and it's more important to
- 9:47Speaker 1: us than your survival— you really can't be shocked that
- 9:51Speaker 1: people are not quick to sign on the dotted line.
- 9:53Speaker 1: That's really not the sales pitch that's going to work
- 9:56Speaker 1: most effectively for you, particularly if you are a Jewish
- 10:00Speaker 1: Democratic leader saying to other Jewish Democrats, for our agenda
- 10:04Speaker 1: to be enacted, we might have to die. No, no,
- 10:07Speaker 1: that's not. I imagine this is the context of climate change, right? Now,
- 10:13Speaker 1: here's the thing. Greg, in the interest of bipartisanship, in
- 10:16Speaker 1: the interest of building bridges, I am willing to work
- 10:20Speaker 1: with the environmentalists. I would really love to see a
- 10:24Speaker 1: direct action to reduce the carbon emissions coming from Islamist
- 10:28Speaker 1: terrorist groups. And on that list, I will throw on
- 10:31Speaker 1: the Iranian mullahs. A lot of them have assumed room
- 10:35Speaker 1: temperature and have reduced and are no longer contributing to
- 10:38Speaker 1: global warming. Drug cartels, I don't know exactly how many
- 10:42Speaker 1: carbon emissions are produced by... I suppose like you say,
- 10:46Speaker 1: oh no, their cocoa plants give off chlorophyll. They help
- 10:49Speaker 1: the environment. They absorb it. So maybe they're pro-cocaine and
- 10:52Speaker 1: all that stuff. There are some operatives of Russia, China,
- 10:56Speaker 1: North Korea, Some might say this is harsh, but if
- 11:01Speaker 1: Kim Jong-un succumbing to cholesterol is the kind of thing
- 11:04Speaker 1: we need to have happen to reduce carbon emissions, That's
- 11:07Speaker 1: a sacrifice I'm willing to make. And here's where Nessel's
- 11:10Speaker 1: argument really gets ridiculous. As you mentioned, she was not
- 11:13Speaker 1: willing to go to the Democratic State Convention because she
- 11:15Speaker 1: didn't feel safe there. And I remember thinking, you're the
- 11:17Speaker 1: state attorney general, right? Your job is to enforce the law.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Your job is to protect everybody else's rights. If you
- 11:23Speaker 1: won't stand up for your own rights, why should anyone
- 11:26Speaker 1: trust you to stand up for theirs? This is like
- 11:30Speaker 1: almost the point of self-parody. And I think there is this,
- 11:33Speaker 1: I imagine if you're a Jewish Democrat in Michigan, you're
- 11:36Speaker 1: probably going through some sort of identity crisis right now.
- 11:39Speaker 1: You're probably going through some sort of like, oh my God,
- 11:41Speaker 1: my party's going nuts. They nominated a guy who not
- 11:44Speaker 1: so subtly hates me, who sees everything through the lens
- 11:46Speaker 1: of Israel. By the way, remember when they said young
- 11:48Speaker 1: people didn't care about foreign policy? Well, all of a
- 11:51Speaker 1: sudden they care in the sense of like Israel's the
- 11:54Speaker 1: root of all evil. But I think the obvious answer, look,
- 11:57Speaker 1: if I were a Jewish Democrat in the state of Michigan,
- 12:00Speaker 1: I'd be like, hmm, You know, Mike Rogers doesn't look
- 12:02Speaker 1: so bad right now. He's not some, you know, I
- 12:06Speaker 1: don't see Mike Rogers campaigning around with Nick Fuentes. OK,
- 12:09Speaker 1: like you don't like there is a real difference there
- 12:12Speaker 1: between the anti-Semites on the right, who I think are
- 12:14Speaker 1: appropriately or maybe even insufficient. I'd like to see even
- 12:17Speaker 1: more widespread condemnation, but you don't see Republican candidates running
- 12:21Speaker 1: around with their nut job, you know, their nut job folks.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Hassan Piker, when Abdullah Syed invited him to campaign with
- 12:28Speaker 1: him on several college campuses, and you still see anybody
- 12:31Speaker 1: who's in a sufficiently safe blue seat in the House
- 12:34Speaker 1: is sitting down and doing interviews with Hassan Piker. So
- 12:37Speaker 1: it's like, again, if your argument is some of us
- 12:41Speaker 1: have to die, you've lost the plot, particularly when you're
- 12:44Speaker 1: a state attorney general. Isn't that part of your duties there? So, yeah.
- 12:48Speaker 1: She's term limited. Am I correct, Greg? She is, yes.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Can't get rid of her soon enough. Yeah, exactly.
- 12:54Speaker 2: We have a moral imperative, imperative to place the needs
- 12:58Speaker 2: of the world above even our own self-interest. If she
- 13:01Speaker 2: had stopped there, it would be a terrible argument. Why
- 13:04Speaker 2: would I vote for people who don't share my interests
- 13:07Speaker 2: and would not be promoting policies that are good for me?
- 13:09Speaker 2: But when you throw in even their own survival, you've
- 13:13Speaker 2: just completely lost the plot. Now, Rogers has two challenges here.
- 13:16Speaker 2: One is to get people to move away from Syed.
- 13:19Speaker 2: And then two is to take that extra step to
- 13:21Speaker 2: actually vote for him and make it really a two-vote
- 13:23Speaker 2: swing if they normally vote Democrat and then go for him.
- 13:26Speaker 2: So the polls are still tight. Detroit Free Press just
- 13:29Speaker 2: had El-Sayed up. So even though this, I think right now,
- 13:33Speaker 2: Rogers is succeeding in making this campaign about El-Sayed instead
- 13:36Speaker 2: of El-Sayed succeeding in making it about Trump, it's still
- 13:39Speaker 2: going to be tough. And there's a long way to
- 13:40Speaker 2: go here.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, like, on the one hand,
- 13:43Speaker 1: I've heard people making the argument that the polling is
- 13:46Speaker 1: oversampling Democrats and you look at them and El-Sayed, you know,
- 13:50Speaker 1: In fact, I recently heard the argument that if you're
- 13:52Speaker 1: a Democrat in Michigan, you may not want to admit
- 13:55Speaker 1: to a pollster. You're not going to vote for El-Sayed.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I hope that's the case. But if you're a Republican,
- 13:59Speaker 1: you cannot act on that assumption. You have to assume
- 14:03Speaker 1: that the polls are accurate and that you're behind and
- 14:05Speaker 1: campaign really hard. So good luck, Mike Rogers. Absolutely.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Always play like you're behind.
- 14:10Speaker 1: All right.
- 14:11Speaker 2: In a moment, we'll talk more about terrible reactions to
- 14:15Speaker 2: the climate change issue on the left.
- 14:22Speaker 1: All right, Jim, on to Texas.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Tight Senate race there between James Tallarico and Ken Paxton,
- 14:27Speaker 2: as we've talked about and has been reiterated in the
- 14:30Speaker 2: news again this week. Frustrations about Ken Paxton being lazy,
- 14:33Speaker 2: not doing fundraising, way behind in the money count. Some
- 14:36Speaker 2: other outside groups are now coming in, it seems like,
- 14:38Speaker 2: to help push him across the finish line potentially. But
- 14:41Speaker 2: James Tallarico? seems like the least likely person to actually
- 14:46Speaker 2: win a statewide race for Democrats. He's a terrible fit
- 14:48Speaker 2: for the state and he's so radical. And so he
- 14:51Speaker 2: was on this, looks like a giant Zoom call, not
- 14:54Speaker 2: exactly sure when this was, but the idea was, you know,
- 14:57Speaker 2: they're talking about climate change and how are you going
- 14:59Speaker 2: to help people marginalized by climate change?
- 15:02Speaker 1: And listen to this.
- 15:03Speaker 4: I can question communities of color receive the most harm
- 15:07Speaker 4: from the impacts of climate change and yet received the
- 15:10Speaker 4: least government support to deal with it. Tell us about
- 15:15Speaker 4: one of the committees you are on or hope to
- 15:17Speaker 4: be on and the most important actions that committee could
- 15:21Speaker 4: take to fight for climate justice and mitigate the impacts
- 15:24Speaker 4: of climate change for all Texans.
- 15:27Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm so thankful that you asked this question
- 15:30Speaker 5: and also thankful that young activists have really drawn the
- 15:34Speaker 5: link between climate change and white supremacy and capitalism in
- 15:38Speaker 5: our country. And I think only understanding the ways that
- 15:41Speaker 5: all three of those oppressive systems work together, are we
- 15:44Speaker 5: going to be able to begin the process of dismantling them?
- 15:46Speaker 2: We need to dismantle capitalism to deal with climate change,
- 15:49Speaker 2: which has really been the left's agenda all along. They
- 15:52Speaker 2: just haven't said it that plainly. So, Jim, first of all,
- 15:55Speaker 2: anytime climate justice is in the question, I think you
- 15:59Speaker 2: should be moving in a different direction there. But the
- 16:01Speaker 2: idea that Climate change is connected to white supremacy and
- 16:06Speaker 2: the evils of capitalism should be immediately disqualifying, especially in
- 16:09Speaker 2: a state like Texas, but not yet.
- 16:12Speaker 1: So first of all, Greg, I'm pretty sure this occurred
- 16:14Speaker 1: in 2020. It's in coverage of this exchange. And as
- 16:18Speaker 1: AOC says, Woke One was crazy. But thankfully, that's all
- 16:23Speaker 1: in the past. We don't have to worry about this anymore. Oh, God,
- 16:27Speaker 1: we were all just so nutty with the rioting and all. Anyway,
- 16:32Speaker 1: so first of all, my colleague, Charlie Cook, used to
- 16:35Speaker 1: observe that you can get a good slogan or tweet
- 16:40Speaker 1: to go viral in progressive circles. It's kind of like
- 16:44Speaker 1: a mad lib. Blank is a blank issue, and you
- 16:48Speaker 1: just pick any two democratic causes. So gay rights is
- 16:52Speaker 1: a climate change issue, right? Or Palestine is a gun
- 16:57Speaker 1: control issue. Okay, technically, I guess that one's true. Anyway,
- 17:01Speaker 1: because we don't want guns in the hands of Hamas
- 17:03Speaker 1: because we've seen what they do with them, right? But
- 17:05Speaker 1: so like the gist was that when you get down
- 17:08Speaker 1: to it, almost all of modern progressivism, which has like
- 17:12Speaker 1: glaringly obvious contradictions, i.e. gays for Hamas and things like that,
- 17:17Speaker 1: you know, they just kind of ignore those contradictions by
- 17:22Speaker 1: insisting what I think was Mary Catherine Hamm recently talking
- 17:25Speaker 1: about the omni-cause, right? And it becomes this blob. And
- 17:28Speaker 1: what it really used to... She pointed out that like 10,
- 17:31Speaker 1: 15 years ago, because of climate change, you needed to
- 17:34Speaker 1: give up more of your rights and you needed to
- 17:36Speaker 1: give up more money to the U.S. government, or if
- 17:40Speaker 1: not to a world government or something like that, in
- 17:43Speaker 1: order for the world to be saved. Now, in the
- 17:46Speaker 1: name of Palestine, you need to give up more of
- 17:48Speaker 1: your rights and you need to give more money to
- 17:50Speaker 1: the U.S. government. Tomorrow, it will be because of the
- 17:53Speaker 1: data center menace or whatever is political, pickleball, whatever is popular,
- 17:57Speaker 1: whatever is going on, that will be a reason why
- 18:00Speaker 1: the government needs more power and needs more regulations. And
- 18:03Speaker 1: that people like this, people who are calling it, need
- 18:05Speaker 1: to be in charge. Tallarico, I continue to contend, is
- 18:08Speaker 1: some sort of bizarre, reanimated Howdy Doody doll. with the
- 18:13Speaker 1: dead eyes. There's just nothing going on, you know, no
- 18:15Speaker 1: life in there. That this is, you know, like he's
- 18:18Speaker 1: a terrible candidate. Ken Paxton, unfortunately, is also a deeply
- 18:22Speaker 1: flawed candidate. There have been a bunch of polls that
- 18:25Speaker 1: have Tallarico ahead. Like, and the funny thing is, do
- 18:28Speaker 1: you think Greta O'Rourke is looking at this and saying,
- 18:31Speaker 1: that should have been me? Because like... Let's just say,
- 18:34Speaker 1: you know, Tallarico, I kept calling, you know, Tallarico, Timu brand,
- 18:38Speaker 1: Beto O'Rourke. But really, lately, he's making, you know, O'Rourke
- 18:42Speaker 1: look like Winston Churchill. I mean, just, you know. So
- 18:46Speaker 1: it's going to be really, really bizarre if a guy
- 18:48Speaker 1: who's even more woke and even more controversial and even
- 18:51Speaker 1: more out of step with Texans manages to win a
- 18:54Speaker 1: Senate seat when Beto O'Rourke, who was anointed the, you know,
- 18:58Speaker 1: the chosen one by the national media back in 2018...
- 19:01Speaker 1: And ended up having about 15 minutes of fame in
- 19:03Speaker 1: the Andy Warhol style. Ended up becoming this non-entity. If elected,
- 19:08Speaker 1: James Tallarico would be a senator until the end of 2032.
- 19:10Speaker 1: And he'd be running for re-election as an incumbent. And
- 19:14Speaker 1: who knows what would happen there. Ken Paxton. This is
- 19:21Speaker 1: not the time to get lazy, Ken Paxton.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Yeah. And he said after he won the nomination, Tallarico, that, oh,
- 19:26Speaker 2: I said some things before to be provocative. Now, this
- 19:29Speaker 2: was to a group of dyed-in-the-wool lefties. I guess the
- 19:32Speaker 2: only reason I didn't think it was 2020 is because
- 19:34Speaker 2: some of them weren't wearing masks all alone in their
- 19:36Speaker 2: house as they looked at their computer. But one of
- 19:40Speaker 2: the things that the climate change people love so much
- 19:42Speaker 2: is demonizing fossil fuels. And then after he got the nomination,
- 19:45Speaker 2: Tallarico was like, well, you know, the energy industry is
- 19:47Speaker 2: actually very important.
- 19:49Speaker 1: So I wouldn't do a whole lot there.
- 19:51Speaker 2: So you can't make everybody happy, Tallarico. And we kind
- 19:53Speaker 2: of know where you'll vote when that issue actually comes up.
- 19:56Speaker 2: It'll be not with the interest of your state. Jim
- 20:01Speaker 2: Garrity said it exactly right. This should not be close.
- 20:03Speaker 2: And the fact that it is, is very frustrating. All right, Jim,
- 20:12Speaker 2: into our chaser now. And as we said in the
- 20:14Speaker 2: martini about Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, the main story
- 20:17Speaker 2: there was Abdul El-Sayed talking about his comments when the
- 20:23Speaker 2: terrorist tried to attack the Jewish school there in Bloomfield, Michigan.
- 20:27Speaker 2: At the time, he said, hurt people, hurt people. He
- 20:29Speaker 2: said the guy who did it, you know, he had
- 20:31Speaker 2: people in Lebanon who had been killed by Israel, not
- 20:34Speaker 2: adding the fact that his people were fighting actively for Hezbollah.
- 20:38Speaker 2: But nonetheless, now he says, well, I was just providing context,
- 20:42Speaker 2: but it was the wrong time to do context. And
- 20:44Speaker 2: for that, I apologize. So the context is still wrong.
- 20:46Speaker 2: But anyway, he's also deleted a bunch of 9-11 tweets,
- 20:49Speaker 2: according to reports. And one that has surfaced is from
- 20:52Speaker 2: the 20th anniversary of 9-11. So five years ago, September 11th, 2021,
- 20:55Speaker 2: where he says today, I mourn the 3,000 lives, 6,000 injuries,
- 21:00Speaker 2: and infrastructural devastation in New York City perpetrated ignorantly in
- 21:04Speaker 2: the name of my faith. Tomorrow, I'll mourn about 1
- 21:08Speaker 2: million lives, millions of injuries, and infrastructural devastation in three
- 21:12Speaker 2: countries perpetrated ignorantly in the name of my country. Jim,
- 21:17Speaker 2: conflating the 9-11 Al-Qaeda terrorists with the response to the
- 21:21Speaker 2: 9-11 Al-Qaeda terrorists is quite something, and I'm not surprised
- 21:24Speaker 2: he wanted it to be deleted.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Greg, did he have a bet? that he could get
- 21:27Speaker 1: the phrase infrastructural devastation into a tweet twice. Do you
- 21:33Speaker 1: remember anyone who was around on 9-11 watching that and saying,
- 21:37Speaker 1: oh my God, the infrastructural devastation? No, oh my God,
- 21:41Speaker 1: all those people, all those lives lost. There was something,
- 21:43Speaker 1: you know. Yesterday, Greg, I ran across, you know, as
- 21:47Speaker 1: I will shock people, I look for news on the Jets.
- 21:50Speaker 1: And when you search for the Jets, sometimes you get
- 21:53Speaker 1: news that's not related to the New York Jets. You
- 21:55Speaker 1: end up getting other things. Down in South Africa, they
- 21:57Speaker 1: recently had this big rugby match in this stadium. And
- 22:01Speaker 1: there was this really jaw-dropping... It's not surprising you do flyovers.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Traditionally in this country, we do military jets or helicopters
- 22:08Speaker 1: or something. They made the decision to have not one
- 22:12Speaker 1: but two commercial passenger airliners do a flyover of the stadium.
- 22:18Speaker 1: And they did it so low. You know how they
- 22:20Speaker 1: shoot fireworks off the roof of a stadium? The Jets
- 22:24Speaker 1: actually passed through the firework spray and stuff like that.
- 22:28Speaker 1: The video is really kind of shocking. Didn't crash. Obviously,
- 22:31Speaker 1: everything turned out okay. But I looked at that and like, holy,
- 22:35Speaker 1: bad words came out of my mouth. And I just
- 22:38Speaker 1: kind of thought like, it's late August coming into September.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Whose idea was, oh, to celebrate this really big rugby match,
- 22:46Speaker 1: Let's have two passenger airliners look like they're going to
- 22:48Speaker 1: go really close to a stadium with lots of people
- 22:50Speaker 1: in it. I just looked at that and I marveled.
- 22:53Speaker 1: And I kind of look at it. We're going to
- 22:57Speaker 1: be talking about 9-11 between now and 10 days from now.
- 23:01Speaker 1: And I just have this recognition that I've now got
- 23:03Speaker 1: two little guys who were not in my life back then.
- 23:06Speaker 1: 25 years have gone by. There are people who are
- 23:08Speaker 1: voting who are not alive on that day. I have
- 23:11Speaker 1: colleagues who say, oh, I remember my parents telling me
- 23:13Speaker 1: about that, which kind of shocks me and all that stuff.
- 23:16Speaker 1: I marvel at how much, so we'll never forget that day.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Some people have forgotten that day. There's just something really
- 23:23Speaker 1: bizarre and disturbing. So yeah, when your first thought is,
- 23:26Speaker 1: oh my God, the infrastructural devastation, I doubt your, I
- 23:30Speaker 1: start to wonder about how you perceived that horrible day.
- 23:33Speaker 1: and its legacy. So I'm surprised, but I'm not that
- 23:38Speaker 1: surprised to see a comment like that coming from him,
- 23:41Speaker 1: nor am I surprised that he's starting to delete them. Hey, Michigan,
- 23:45Speaker 1: maybe this wasn't such a good choice after all.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Comparing the actions of the US military,
- 23:50Speaker 2: or even the people who ordered what the US military did,
- 23:54Speaker 2: to bin Laden and the 9-11 terrorists.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Disgusting. Absolutely beyond the pale. The difference is our enemies
- 24:00Speaker 1: aim at civilians. We don't. We saw a terrible strike
- 24:03Speaker 1: against a school in Iran that was based on erroneous information, outdated.
- 24:08Speaker 1: They built a school, unfortunately, near a military base in Iran.
- 24:11Speaker 1: That's an absolute tragedy and absolutely terrible. Various wedding killings
- 24:15Speaker 1: that have occurred, wedding bombings occurred during drone strikes over
- 24:18Speaker 1: the years against al-Qaeda and ISIS targets. Hey, you know,
- 24:22Speaker 1: civilians don't deserve to die. But we don't aim for them.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Our enemies do. And it's that William F. Buckley statement.
- 24:29Speaker 1: You're basically saying the guy who pushes an old lady
- 24:31Speaker 1: out of the way of an oncoming bus and the
- 24:33Speaker 1: guy who pushes an old lady into the path of
- 24:35Speaker 1: an oncoming bus, you're arguing they're both the same old
- 24:38Speaker 1: guys pushing around old ladies. Utterly ridiculous. Hey, I'm glad
- 24:42Speaker 1: we could end this on a high note.
- 24:44Speaker 2: And Michigan voters, I think the choice is pretty darn clear. Jim,
- 24:47Speaker 2: see you tomorrow.
- 24:48Speaker 1: See you tomorrow, Greg.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Jim Garrity, National Review. I'm Greg Karumbas of Radio America.
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