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Weekend Rewind - October Kiss · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Hey friends, before we get started, this is a Girls
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Speaker 1: Gone Hallmark Rewind episode, which means you're about to hear
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Speaker 1: us revisit an episode we've already aired. Maybe the movie
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Speaker 1: is airing again. Maybe we just loved this episode that much.
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Speaker 1: Either way, we think it's worth another listen. Enjoy! Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark Review podcast. I'm Megan
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Speaker 1: and I'm your longtime Hallmark movie fan.
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Speaker 2: I'm Wendy. I... You're former Hallmark hater. Oh gosh, I
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Speaker 2: got a mouthful of marbles again today, guys.
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm apologizing now for it. Today we're
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Speaker 1: discussing October Kiss as part of our fan favorite fall
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Speaker 1: movie series. We're getting close to the end. It's almost
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Speaker 1: synopsis of October Kiss? I am. October Kiss.
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Speaker 2: Poppy is hired near Halloween as a temporary nanny by Ryan,
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Speaker 2: a widowed, work-obsessed executive. Through a series of adventures, the
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Speaker 2: eternally optimistic Poppy sets out to teach Ryan and his
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Speaker 2: two young children what's important in life, unconditional love, family,
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Speaker 2: and the joy of everyday occurrences.
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Speaker 1: Ashley William plays Poppy Summerall. She has 81 credits. We
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Speaker 1: saw her most recently in Notes of Autumn. She's very
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Speaker 1: well known in the Hallmark universe. But outside of that,
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Speaker 1: I saw her play Victoria in 16 episodes of How
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Speaker 1: I Met Your Mother. And Claire in the 2011 Emily
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Speaker 1: Giffen book adaptation, Something Borrowed. Did you realize that Ashley
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Speaker 1: Williams is not in any movies in this year's Countdown
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Speaker 1: to Christmas lineup? I did realize that as I was
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Speaker 1: preparing for today's episode. That's a miss. What's happening there?
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Speaker 1: I think there's just so many. I think there's just
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Speaker 1: so many stars.
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Speaker 2: Well, then I'm hoping for something in January from her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hopefully. I'm hopeful.
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Speaker 2: This movie co-stars Sam Yeager as workaholic Ryan. This appears
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Speaker 2: to be Sam's only Hallmark movie. During the making of
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Speaker 2: October Kiss, Sam was also co-starring in the family drama Parenthood.
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Speaker 1: Of recent, he.
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Speaker 2: Has been in 19 episodes of The Handmaid's Tale, Devil
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Speaker 2: in Ohio, and The Eyes of Tammy Faye.
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Speaker 1: Second appearance of Devil in Ohio in our news and
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Speaker 1: notes recently. Yeah. Have you watched that? Yeah. Do I
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Speaker 1: need to? You won't like it. Okay. Hannah Turami plays
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Speaker 1: Zoe Larson. This was her first of nine acting credits.
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Speaker 1: She would go on to appear in other things, including
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Speaker 1: Escape from Mr. Limoncello's Library, a movie adaptation of a
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Speaker 1: book series that my kids loved. She's also in the
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Speaker 1: sci-fi thriller From, which is a show my husband watches.
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Speaker 1: I don't partake. Wendy has a big old red circle
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Speaker 1: with a line through it when it comes to sci-fi.
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Speaker 1: I just don't. It's not for me. I also saw
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Speaker 1: that she's now 20 years old. I did notice on
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Speaker 1: her IMDb she is all grown up. She's beautiful. She's
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Speaker 1: all grown up. This movie originally aired October 17th, 2015,
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Speaker 1: and it was originally titled Temporarily Yours. I like that better.
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Speaker 1: Do you? It is cute. It's cute. It's cuter. I
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Speaker 1: think so too. I think I like it too better. Well,
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Speaker 1: the writer of this movie is Mackenzie Austin. She has
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Speaker 1: two writing credits. The other is Winter Love Story starring
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Speaker 1: Jen Lilly and Heaven McGarry. And I feel like October Kiss,
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Speaker 1: Winter Love Story, they're fine, but very generic. Temporarily Yours
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Speaker 1: speaks more to what this movie is about, but it doesn't,
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Speaker 1: it's not like Temporary yours in the leaves. Like it
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Speaker 1: says nuts in the leaves. The fall vibe. So I
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Speaker 1: understand why they went with October Kiss. This was directed
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Speaker 1: by Lynn Stopkowitz, who has 27 directing credits, including an
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Speaker 1: Aurora Teagarden mystery with an eerily similar title to one
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Speaker 1: we just reviewed, Three Bedrooms, One Corpse. Oh, I thought
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Speaker 1: it was One Ghost. I wrote corpse. It is three bedrooms,
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Speaker 1: one corpse. It is? Indeed. Was that on Movies and Mysteries?
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Speaker 1: Of course. It's in the Rura Tea Garden mystery.
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Speaker 2: Finally, Raiders on IMDb gave this movie 6.5 out of 10.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to point out that Kiefer O'Reilly plays Zach
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Speaker 1: Larson in this movie, and I know Wendy hates kids
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Speaker 1: and she didn't pull this, but speaking of all grown up,
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Speaker 1: Dude has 35 acting credits, including a role in the
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Speaker 1: entire first season of the Disney Plus adaptation, The Mighty
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Speaker 1: Ducks Game Changer, as one of the Don't Bothers. I don't...
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Speaker 1: I've never seen that show. I don't know what is
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Speaker 1: a Don't Bother. Is that a team? It's the hockey
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Speaker 1: team that is developed. Their team is called Don't Bother? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because they're the kids that like the other... It is.
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Speaker 1: They're like the underdogs. Did they end up winning? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you gotta watch. Okay. I didn't like purposely leave him out,
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Speaker 1: but I did.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Should we give a first impression? Have you had
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Speaker 1: time to come up with one? No, you go first.
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Speaker 1: My first impression is, is this the moment in which
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Speaker 1: Ashley Williams was typecast? Oh, for real.
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Speaker 2: For real.
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Speaker 1: For real. We're just going to go with your first impression.
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Speaker 1: I don't have one. Cosign. Cosign.
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Speaker 2: Other than my other first impression was I texted Megan
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Speaker 2: while watching this and I was like, did you see
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Speaker 2: his kitchen?
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Speaker 1: It's so dated. I said I didn't clock it other
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Speaker 1: than his hideous bar stools that are so uncomfortable. Would
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Speaker 1: you ever sit on like a crisscross waffle pattern metal table? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's not like sit here and do your homework, kid,
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Speaker 1: while mom bakes cookies. The back of your legs when
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Speaker 1: you get up from that thing? No. No. Awful. Or
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Speaker 1: the back of your legs squishing through each as you're
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Speaker 1: sitting there. Like a Pillsbury dough coming out of a can. No,
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Speaker 1: thank you. Oh, my God. Let's talk likes for October Kiss.
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Speaker 1: I have a few. Yeah. I loved, loved, loved that
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Speaker 1: this was set during Halloween. Yes, that's my number one.
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Speaker 2: When I asked on our Instagram, what Hallmark movies are
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Speaker 2: there that are Halloween themed or take place during Halloween?
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Speaker 2: And this was the only title mentioned. This was like,
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Speaker 2: this is it.
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Speaker 1: Is next week's movie not a Hallmark movie? It's just
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Speaker 1: Hallmark adjacent because Autumn Reeser is in it. Nikki DeLoach
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Speaker 1: is in it. Nikki DeLoach is in it, yeah. I
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Speaker 1: always transpose their two names in my mind. Yes, it
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Speaker 1: was not originally a Hallmark movie. But Hallmark fans have
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Speaker 1: adopted it as one of their own. Yes, exactly. That's
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Speaker 1: what I thought. Exactly. I have a question, though.
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Speaker 2: I'm just not sure why Hallmark doesn't make at least
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Speaker 2: one movie a year that takes place at Halloween other
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Speaker 2: than this.
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Speaker 1: This is what I was thinking. Maybe people don't re-watch
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Speaker 1: Halloween-themed movies. That's a good question. Do you consider, like,
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Speaker 1: they make so many Christmas movies, right? Yeah. But Christmas is,
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Speaker 1: for many people, a season. Is Halloween a season? Or
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Speaker 1: is it, like, a day, and then there's, like, fall?
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Speaker 1: I think it's fall, with Halloween as, like, maybe at
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Speaker 1: most a week. The way... certainly now it's become like that, right?
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Speaker 1: There's so many like Halloween when you have kids. Right.
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Speaker 1: So is that why you don't think Hallmark? Maybe it's
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Speaker 1: just not as marketable. Yeah. That's what I think. But
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Speaker 1: I think they should have more than one. And they
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Speaker 1: don't lean too hard on the Halloween. It's just like
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Speaker 1: a moment. I mean, they're getting their costumes and okay. Okay.
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Speaker 1: They're decorating. They're getting their costumes. I get it. But it's,
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Speaker 1: It does become a season because they're decorating and they're
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Speaker 1: making cookies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think like the time frame here is
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Speaker 2: only like two weeks. Yeah, it's not much.
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Speaker 1: You're right. It's not much. So I wrote, this movie
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Speaker 1: features child actors that even Wendy can't hate, question mark. Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: The daughter was so sassy. Yeah. And the boy was
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Speaker 1: like sweet, but I was like, dude, you can't be
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Speaker 1: that scared of spiders. Like, come on. But the daughter
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Speaker 1: probably annoyed me the most just because she was like,
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Speaker 1: like they wouldn't even give this nanny a chance when
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Speaker 1: she like came to their house. Like they were just
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Speaker 1: nasty to her. Not they. The daughter was nasty to her.
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Speaker 1: She was nasty to her. I don't like that. Well, I...
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Speaker 1: I don't love it either. I mean, I don't want
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Speaker 1: someone to be nasty to me. I don't like kids
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Speaker 1: that are nasty. However, I think it was like a
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Speaker 1: little bit of self-preservation. They're like, this chick's going to
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Speaker 1: leave us too. Like nobody pays any attention to us
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Speaker 1: and this chick's going to leave us. I hear you.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to let myself get attached. I
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Speaker 1: hear you. But if you're so starved for attention. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but they've been burned so many times. So she's like,
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Speaker 1: screw you. I'm not even going to let myself care
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Speaker 1: about you. Did they?
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Speaker 2: Establish that those kids had been burned before by other
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Speaker 2: like babysitters?
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Speaker 1: It seemed like the dad was like, yeah, I'll do anything. Like,
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Speaker 1: please stay for two weeks. Like I, you know, she
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Speaker 1: comes home and she's like scrubbing the carpet. I think
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Speaker 1: they had established that the kids were a little bit
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Speaker 1: of A menace. I mean, if you were hired as
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Speaker 1: a nanny, would you scrub somebody's carpet? If there was
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Speaker 1: a mess and a spill, you're just going to leave
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Speaker 1: the big spill there? You're not going to clean up
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Speaker 1: after yourself? Oh, I was thinking she was like cleaning
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Speaker 1: an old spill. No, that's not my impression. I certainly wouldn't. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm not breaking out the little green steam machine while I,
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Speaker 1: after the kids go to bed. No, but if a
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Speaker 1: mess happens on my watch, I will do my best
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Speaker 1: to clean it up. So you enjoyed the children in
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Speaker 1: this movie? I did. I did. Okay. I don't think
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Speaker 1: the movie exists without the children. It doesn't. It doesn't.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't. And I liked their arc. Okay. I saw
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Speaker 1: a review that said, like, no kids like their nanny.
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Speaker 1: This is not believable. And I spent a lot of
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Speaker 1: time in the car this morning thinking about that comment
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Speaker 1: because I think the reality is when you see on
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Speaker 1: TV or in a movie, you've got a single parent
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Speaker 1: bringing in a love interest, right? Oftentimes, we see the
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Speaker 1: kids pushing back against that. Mm-hmm. But in this case,
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Speaker 1: we had two kids who just wanted their dad to
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Speaker 1: spend time with them. And the nanny was not, you know,
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Speaker 1: she didn't come into their lives as a romantic interest. Right.
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Speaker 1: And she also wasn't a roadblock to their dad spending
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Speaker 1: time with them. She was interested in them. She made
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Speaker 1: them feel important. Right. And she was trying to facilitate
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Speaker 1: the dad's relationship. She wasn't like, I'm going to take
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Speaker 1: away your already limited time with your dad like that
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Speaker 1: other office lady was trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. Good points.
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Speaker 1: Did you like anything else? I did. Okay. Ashley Williams
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Speaker 1: is damn delightful. She is.
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Speaker 2: I think she's a great actor. She's got a great smile.
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Speaker 2: She has stunning eyes.
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Speaker 1: But... Uh-oh.
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Speaker 2: Like Notes of Autumn, her energy level is at 100.
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Speaker 2: I just need her to reign it in. I can't
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Speaker 2: think of another movie besides Notes of Autumn. And I
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Speaker 2: know I've seen her in, like, the Sister Swap. I
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Speaker 2: don't remember her being, like, so, like..
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Speaker 1: Yes, you do. Go back and listen to your review.
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Speaker 1: For real? Yeah. Is she the same way? Yeah. Has
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Speaker 1: she always been like this? I know you said, like,
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Speaker 1: is this when she was typecast? Is she..
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Speaker 2: Always like at 100?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Because I watched her in How
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Speaker 1: I Met Your Mother. Oh. And she's not Mary Poppins
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Speaker 1: in that. Okay. So I like the energy she brings
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Speaker 1: because I find often some of these Hallmark movies can
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Speaker 1: be really low energy. Oh, totally. And I think Sam
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Speaker 1: kind of plays to the low energy. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Joel. Yeah. Did you immediately clock him as Joel from
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Speaker 1: Parenthood when you were watching this? Yes, of course. I
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I just, how do I know him from? As soon
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Speaker 2: as I looked it up, I was like, of course,
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Speaker 2: that's Joel. But you know who I get him confused
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Speaker 2: with sometimes? The guy that played like the hottie love
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Speaker 2: interest on The Bold Type.
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Speaker 1: Richard? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Who is also in Hallmark movies. Sam Page is his name. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I can see that. So anyway. I like the energy
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Speaker 1: she brings. It keeps things interesting on screen. And I think...
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Speaker 1: In this movie, it's true to her character. I mean,
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Speaker 1: her character cannot be tied down. She bounces from thing
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Speaker 1: to thing. Can we talk about that? Please.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of more in my wished for.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I have other likes, but... Or do you
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Speaker 2: want to put a pin in that for a second?
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it.
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Speaker 2: So, as I'm watching this, I'm feeling an immense amount
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Speaker 2: of guilt. And I'm like, I've never been..
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Speaker 1: I know she's not there..
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Speaker 2: The mother of these children but she's like playing with
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Speaker 2: them and like let's go on these adventures and let's
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Speaker 2: do this fun stuff and I was like oh I
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Speaker 2: wish I was a parent like that to my child
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Speaker 2: but then I was like she doesn't also have to
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Speaker 2: like make dinner and clean the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: And other other stuff that she's not signing the permission
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Speaker 1: slips and shopping for the stuff she signed up to
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Speaker 1: bring for the class party and running their laundry so
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Speaker 1: they have clothes for soccer practice right What was my
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Speaker 1: point here? That you feel guilty that you're not the
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Speaker 1: fun mom. Yeah. And she was like the fun mom nanny. Yes.
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Speaker 1: And she's getting paid to do the fun stuff. Right.
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Speaker 2: So do you think now when her and Ryan, the dad,
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Speaker 2: get together, does she shift into now I'm stepmom? Am
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Speaker 2: I less fun now? Because now I have to enforce
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Speaker 2: the rules and enforce behaviors and whatever.
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Speaker 1: No, I think, look, I'm not a fun mom either.
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Speaker 1: I know. No, I'm not either. I know. I recognize. Like,
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Speaker 1: am I the mom who loved pretend play? No, I
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Speaker 1: hated it. Me too. I hated pretend play. Me too.
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Speaker 1: You want me to sit and color with you? I
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Speaker 1: can do that. But here, mommy, you be the bad guy. No, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm out. I can't. It hurts me. I like structured activities. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: me too. Same. I was never the fun mom. Does
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Speaker 1: that mean that my kids had a bad childhood? they
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Speaker 1: found fun in other ways. I don't think it's the
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Speaker 1: parent's responsibility to- Entertain. Yes, to be the child's entertainer. Now,
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Speaker 1: if that's something you find joy in, making shopping for
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Speaker 1: Halloween decorations into a whole event, cool. But I think
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Speaker 1: there's more than one way to be a good mom. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, maybe she takes on more responsibility. I
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Speaker 1: think her personality is to turn everything into an activity.
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Speaker 1: And my personality is let's get this done. Like I
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Speaker 1: don't have time for the fun stuff. And I know
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Speaker 1: I suck, but my kids are teenagers now, so it works.
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Speaker 1: They don't want to do the fun stuff either. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I also want to talk about her inability to like
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Speaker 1: not be able to keep a job. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I didn't really love that kind of narrative. I know
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Speaker 2: they needed to like make her free spirited, but.
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Speaker 1: Is it that she can't keep a job or that
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Speaker 1: she can't find something she loves? And by the way,
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Speaker 1: does she find something that she loves other than being
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Speaker 1: like at the end of this movie? I was like,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute. Does she have a job or is
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Speaker 1: she just girlfriend? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never love it
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Speaker 1: when we paint a woman as like, she's fun and
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Speaker 1: therefore unserious at all times. Exactly. That's one of my
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Speaker 1: biggest pet peeves with some of these movies. You can
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Speaker 1: be fun and have a drive for finding excitement in
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Speaker 1: your life and still keep your life together. Can I
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Speaker 1: give you one more light, please? Aesthetically, I love the
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Speaker 1: outdoor Halloween decorations. I thought what they did to their
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Speaker 1: front yard was very cute. Does it make you feel
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Speaker 1: like you're at home based on the decoration situation happening
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Speaker 1: on your street?
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Speaker 2: The decorations happening on my street are downright terrifying as
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Speaker 2: well as your neighbor's scary big.
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Speaker 1: Thing out there. Oh, okay, wait. Pause. Is it animated? No,
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Speaker 1: but it lights up. Like the wand, the scary witch
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Speaker 1: lights up. There's like a little light at the end
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Speaker 1: of it. And it's not always on and sometimes it's
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Speaker 1: on during the day and sometimes it's on at night.
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Speaker 1: It's weird. It's like it's sentient. Speaking of their decorations. Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: There's not at the nanny house, but at Poppy's sister's house,
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Speaker 1: which I guess is where she lives. Yeah. They have
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Speaker 1: a bunch of decorations as well. And one of those decorations,
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Speaker 1: this was in my digital, but we're talking about it.
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Speaker 1: There's a mummy like sitting up against a tombstone. Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: It looked like a person. I didn't notice. I was like,
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Speaker 1: that looks like a body. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, the outdoor decorations were cute, but with that,
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Speaker 2: I hated the interior cheesy party store decorations, like the
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Speaker 2: boo sign and the cobwebs all over the kitchen.
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Speaker 1: Like, no, no, no. Yeah, cobwebs in your kitchen are
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Speaker 1: a mess. No, no.
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Speaker 2: And it was even in like his office. I was like,
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Speaker 2: is he doing like Zoom meetings with like a skeleton
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Speaker 2: behind it?
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Speaker 1: Like, so stupid. Yeah. um what did you think of
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Speaker 1: zoe's halloween costume her cute witch costume they were cute
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Speaker 1: i don't hate kids i don't hate kids guys i
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Speaker 1: liked her costume and i liked how she was like
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Speaker 1: you're not just gonna buy it from the store like
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Speaker 1: we're gonna make it work i love a homemade costume
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Speaker 1: i think that's really cute you know what i just
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Speaker 1: realized i think we have maybe typecasted me as like
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Speaker 1: a full ogre but Like, I don't like Christmas. I
18:28
Speaker 1: don't like kids. I'm not fun. I'm really not all
18:33
Speaker 1: those things, though. I think I am fun and bubbly.
18:37
Speaker 1: You know, your personality used to be. Used to be what? Fun?
18:43
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
18:45
Speaker 1: Tread lightly, my dear. Tread lightly. That's not what I mean.
18:48
Speaker 1: I don't mean your personality used to be. I mean
18:51
Speaker 1: the persona that you projected on the internet used to
18:56
Speaker 1: be like you were the cheerleader. I'm a cheerleader. I
18:59
Speaker 1: agree with that. That's what I'm saying. I am a cheerleader.
19:02
Speaker 1: You just know the real me. Sometimes I don't like things.
19:05
Speaker 1: We're team wet blanket. Exactly. It's okay. That's why we're friends.
19:10
Speaker 1: It's all right. I'm not an ogre. I like kids, though.
19:14
Speaker 1: I like children, too. I do like kids. I like
19:21
Speaker 1: my kid best, but I do like kids. All right,
19:34
Speaker 1: let's move on to what you wished for. The sister
19:37
Speaker 1: needs to sim it down. Getting married is not a
19:41
Speaker 1: required life goal. Like the spinster old maid conversation. Not funny.
19:45
Speaker 1: Not funny. I was annoyed by that, too. It is
19:48
Speaker 1: really funny to think of 2015 as the olden days,
19:52
Speaker 1: but it definitely is in terms of Hallmark standards for women. Oh,
19:56
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Was the sister even married? I don't
20:00
Speaker 1: remember seeing a husband. There's never a husband. But she
20:03
Speaker 1: has children, so it's implied. Ah, I got you. And
20:07
Speaker 1: she was married at some point at least. Got you.
20:11
Speaker 2: I hated the whole scene where Ryan comes home to
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Speaker 2: his kids and has to sit through a beatdown of
20:16
Speaker 2: why he's a shitty dad.
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Speaker 1: Dude, can you imagine if your nanny facilitated that? It
20:22
Speaker 1: was her idea. I know. EFI it. There's no way. Like,
20:28
Speaker 1: that whole, that, it made me so uncomfortable. It made
20:33
Speaker 1: me so uncomfortable. She's like, I got this idea. And
20:35
Speaker 1: then he comes home and they just guilt tripped him. Yes.
20:39
Speaker 1: He works a lot. He's also a single parent with
20:43
Speaker 1: a job who needs to provide for these children. Right.
20:46
Speaker 1: And I get that like he misses out on some things.
20:50
Speaker 1: What choice does the man have? Right. Right. It's only him.
20:55
Speaker 1: He's hired this woman who's clearly taking good care of them,
20:59
Speaker 1: who's showing up for them. I think This is really
21:04
Speaker 1: problematic in terms of, like, you need to be all
21:07
Speaker 1: things for your children. And I think we tend to
21:09
Speaker 1: put this on mothers. So I guess it's, okay, maybe
21:12
Speaker 1: a little bit better that it's the dad getting this treatment.
21:17
Speaker 1: But when he has to be all things because he's widowed,
21:23
Speaker 1: something's got to give kids. And sometimes that means he
21:25
Speaker 1: can't make it to your daytime Halloween party. Yeah. I
21:28
Speaker 1: was like, give the guy some slack. Maybe... He does
21:32
Speaker 1: have a demanding job. But also at this time, he's
21:35
Speaker 1: trying to get this app sold. He's in a season. Yeah. Like,
21:39
Speaker 1: got him a break. It doesn't seem to be like,
21:43
Speaker 1: this is how it's always going to be. He's clearly
21:45
Speaker 1: on this timeline of getting this app invested in. And
21:50
Speaker 1: he needs everyone... Like, it's give and take in a family,
21:55
Speaker 1: even between kids and parents. And he needed to be like, look,
21:59
Speaker 1: do you like living in this house? Yeah. Sometimes he
22:02
Speaker 1: needed to throw down the hammer, I think. Yes.
22:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is when that girl, the daughter, was
22:07
Speaker 2: getting all snappy when she's on the stairs. And she's like,
22:11
Speaker 2: you don't ever show up for us. Or I don't know,
22:14
Speaker 2: whatever she said. And I was like, oh, so frustrating.
22:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. When Poppy has the conversation about her two different
22:22
Speaker 1: parenting styles and how she had, like, the mom who
22:26
Speaker 1: was fun but unreliable. And the stoic dad but who
22:29
Speaker 1: showed up. Yeah. Okay. But showing up doesn't always mean
22:35
Speaker 1: you're physically present at everything. I know. Can you imagine
22:38
Speaker 1: if your nanny was, like, shaming your parenting? No. You're fired.
22:42
Speaker 1: You're fired. Yes. This is not a good working relationship anymore.
22:46
Speaker 1: It's not like any of that.
22:48
Speaker 2: No.
22:48
Speaker 1: What'd you think about the Abigail love storyline? I think
22:52
Speaker 1: it's an unnecessary distraction. Me too. And it leads to
22:57
Speaker 1: an unnecessary miscommunication. She sees them kissing. She makes an
23:02
Speaker 1: assumption that he's as all in on it as Abigail is.
23:05
Speaker 1: And then she decides like, oh, this isn't for me.
23:07
Speaker 1: And then they don't have any conversation. And then... Hallmark
23:13
Speaker 1: of yesterday. Yes. Yes.
23:16
Speaker 2: My biggest problem with that whole storyline, I agree, was
23:19
Speaker 2: not necessary. But also Ryan at some point sees that
23:23
Speaker 2: Abigail is like not for him.
23:25
Speaker 1: And doesn't shut it down. Cut it loose, dude. Yes. Yes.
23:30
Speaker 1: And he's in an awkward position because he works with
23:32
Speaker 1: this woman. Well, then don't get involved with somebody you
23:35
Speaker 1: work with. Have the conversation and say, this isn't working
23:39
Speaker 1: for me. Wow. Time for Jay to say that. I
23:42
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch. Okay. You can go first though. Okay.
23:46
Speaker 1: Early in the movie, Poppy and her sister and the
23:49
Speaker 1: boys are sitting down to dinner and the boys go,
23:51
Speaker 1: this broccoli is really good, mom.
23:53
Speaker 2: As if.
23:54
Speaker 1: We like broccoli in my house. I love broccoli. Your
23:57
Speaker 1: child liked broccoli from a young age? Yes. Okay. It's
24:01
Speaker 1: one of the few vegetables she'll eat, but yeah. I
24:04
Speaker 1: guarantee you, no one in my house. I love broccoli.
24:07
Speaker 1: Do you ever like roast it with some like olive oil?
24:09
Speaker 1: I love roasted broccoli. It's so good. It makes your
24:11
Speaker 1: house smell so bad. Yeah, like farts. It's so delicious.
24:17
Speaker 1: I love most vegetables, but I didn't as a child
24:20
Speaker 1: and I just didn't believe it. There's mac and cheese
24:23
Speaker 1: on that plate and he's talking about the broccoli. Yeah. Also,
24:28
Speaker 1: there's a family photo on the stairs at Ryan's house. Yes.
24:31
Speaker 1: And the Photoshop in black and white. It's so bad.
24:33
Speaker 1: It's so bad. I noticed it too. I just didn't
24:36
Speaker 1: need it. I was like, today in 2023 with AI,
24:40
Speaker 1: you can just be like, create me a picture with
24:42
Speaker 1: these four people. Yeah. And it's going to come out
24:45
Speaker 1: so much better.
24:45
Speaker 2: So funny. I have a few things. Ryan tells Poppy
24:50
Speaker 2: he's 34. Sam Yeager today is 46.
24:55
Speaker 1: Yes.
24:56
Speaker 2: So in 2015, he would have been 38. And I
25:00
Speaker 2: know four years isn't, like, a huge difference, but why
25:04
Speaker 2: aren't they true to age?
25:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she is genuinely younger than him. I believe
25:10
Speaker 1: Ashley Williams is a few years younger than him. A few.
25:12
Speaker 1: I'd look, too. She's just a few years younger. And
25:14
Speaker 1: she was playing, what, six years younger than him? She
25:16
Speaker 1: said she was 28 in the movie?
25:19
Speaker 2: She was, like, making a joke about it, so I
25:20
Speaker 2: don't really remember how old she was.
25:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why, if you're close in age to your actual age...
25:27
Speaker 1: Why not just say how old you are? I don't know.
25:29
Speaker 1: His app, Food with Friends. Would you ever? No, but
25:34
Speaker 1: I want to tell you, my husband for a long
25:37
Speaker 1: time has... My husband's not a... For the listeners. A
25:41
Speaker 1: tech guy? Yeah, he probably has like three apps on
25:43
Speaker 1: his phone. Ticketmaster, ESPN. He's not an app dude. But
25:50
Speaker 1: he's had these two app ideas... For a long time.
25:53
Speaker 1: And one of them, he has names for them, one
25:55
Speaker 1: of them. But he's like, you know, when you just
25:57
Speaker 1: like want a friend to go to a concert with
25:59
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Because he loves to go to
26:02
Speaker 1: concerts and I don't always want to go with him.
26:04
Speaker 1: So that's what it was born out of. So it
26:05
Speaker 1: did make me think of that. But would I just
26:09
Speaker 1: go to dinner with a stranger to make a friend?
26:13
Speaker 1: That's my understanding is what this is. It's like a
26:16
Speaker 1: platonic dating app. Basically, so you don't have to eat alone. Yeah.
26:20
Speaker 1: I'd rather eat alone.
26:21
Speaker 2: I would rather make awkward conversation. I hate small chit chat.
26:25
Speaker 2: So no, I don't want to sit across from somebody
26:27
Speaker 2: while I'm stuffing my face.
26:29
Speaker 1: Right? I'd rather just sit at the bar. Yes. Or
26:34
Speaker 1: get it to go. Don't talk to me. On my couch.
26:37
Speaker 1: Shovel it in as quickly as I can with an
26:39
Speaker 1: episode of Real Housewives like normal people do. No, I
26:44
Speaker 1: don't think there's any shame in eating in a restaurant
26:45
Speaker 1: alone either. No, none. I'm not that interested in meeting
26:48
Speaker 1: new people. That doesn't apply to any listeners of the podcast.
26:52
Speaker 1: We'd love to meet you. I just mean I'm not
26:55
Speaker 1: desperate for interaction to pull up an app. Like you're
27:00
Speaker 1: confident enough to sit with yourself. Yeah, but I do
27:03
Speaker 1: think there are people who are like, are you kidding me?
27:05
Speaker 1: Sitting by myself sounds terrible. I would need to talk
27:08
Speaker 1: to someone. I sat by myself last night. Yes, you did.
27:11
Speaker 1: I did. If you are a food with friends potential investor,
27:15
Speaker 1: email us meganandwendy at gmail.com. All right, I have a
27:18
Speaker 1: couple other things.
27:19
Speaker 2: When they're looking for corn, she tells the boy, like,
27:24
Speaker 2: the best way to look for corn. It's almost like
27:27
Speaker 2: if you look for a watermelon, you look for, like,
27:29
Speaker 2: the yellow on one side. I've never heard this advice
27:32
Speaker 2: for corn.
27:32
Speaker 1: I think she said, like, look and see if it's
27:34
Speaker 1: yellow underneath. Yes. Did that mean, like, on the bottom
27:38
Speaker 1: side of the corn or, like, at the base of
27:40
Speaker 1: the corn kernel? I don't know. I've never, ever heard
27:44
Speaker 1: this advice before. I've never heard advice for picking corn.
27:46
Speaker 1: It's usually unshucked. So how are you supposed to know?
27:50
Speaker 1: Are people peeling the husk back in a grocery store?
27:53
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think you'd want it shucked
27:56
Speaker 1: like it was in that display. It's going to start
27:57
Speaker 1: to dry out, isn't it? Maybe. Corn dock with Megan
28:00
Speaker 1: and Wendy.
28:01
Speaker 2: What was funny, though, is that she did not follow
28:03
Speaker 2: her own advice. She was just, like, throwing them in
28:06
Speaker 2: her arms. Like, not looking behind. Including her popcorn. She
28:10
Speaker 2: had that big bucket of popcorn and then left it behind.
28:12
Speaker 1: I was like, what? They are shopping for Halloween decorations.
28:16
Speaker 2: They're at like Party City or whatever. And they come
28:19
Speaker 2: across like the pumpkin carving kits. She's like, we need three.
28:22
Speaker 2: Only grabs two.
28:24
Speaker 1: Thought it was funny. When they are baking cookies, she
28:27
Speaker 1: says she doesn't believe in measuring. I'm like, no, ma'am.
28:30
Speaker 1: Baking is a science. Exactly. It must be measured or
28:34
Speaker 1: it's going to come out terrible. Yeah. You don't need
28:36
Speaker 1: to measure in cooking, but baking is pretty important. And
28:41
Speaker 1: the most nicely decorated cookies you've ever seen in your
28:43
Speaker 1: entire life. A hundred percent. Yeah. There's no way it
28:48
Speaker 1: would have been more believable if they were a complete disaster.
28:51
Speaker 1: Because this woman, according to the character you've built for her,
28:56
Speaker 1: can't focus on anything for long enough. So you're telling
28:58
Speaker 1: me we have decorated cookies, Wendy and I. They didn't
29:03
Speaker 1: look like that. They looked okay. They looked great. Okay.
29:07
Speaker 1: But they didn't. Those were professional level. We'll include a
29:10
Speaker 1: photo of some of our decorated cookies in the show notes.
29:12
Speaker 1: But I mean, it took us an hour and a
29:15
Speaker 1: half to do six, and they're just, like, churning them out.
29:17
Speaker 1: They've got trays and trays of these beautifully decorated flood
29:20
Speaker 1: royal icing cookies. Right. With children involved. Not happening. She's like,
29:24
Speaker 1: don't touch. You're going to ruin it. That's why I'm
29:28
Speaker 1: no fun. I would be, like, so, like, trying to
29:32
Speaker 1: oversee the cookie decorating. Nope. Finally, at the pumpkin patch
29:37
Speaker 1: toward the end, Ryan and Poppy.
29:39
Speaker 2: Lift what is clearly a huge fake styrofoam pumpkin.
29:45
Speaker 1: And then they had to ADR the sound of it
29:47
Speaker 1: thumping into the... So dumb.
29:49
Speaker 2: And then they are scraping the seeds out of it,
29:52
Speaker 2: this fake pumpkin.
29:53
Speaker 1: Like, it... And it must have cost $ 150. How much
29:56
Speaker 1: is a pumpkin that size that the pumpkin patch cost?
29:57
Speaker 1: First of all, never buy your pumpkin at the pumpkin patch.
30:00
Speaker 1: It's too expensive. Go to the grocery store.
30:02
Speaker 2: Unless you're buying like a little baby pumpkin, but not
30:04
Speaker 2: something that is clearly going to be $ 150. Go take
30:08
Speaker 2: your pictures at the pumpkin patch and buy your pumpkins at.
30:11
Speaker 1: The grocery store. That's right. All right. Are you ready
30:13
Speaker 1: to rate this movie? Vibes only, 3.5 stars. That's my,
30:20
Speaker 1: it was fine rating. We need a shirt. I'm going.
30:25
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