Latest / Reflexiones cristianas con José Ordóñez / 383 ¿Pecamos los cristianos cuando somos hinchas furibundos del fútbol?
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- 0:05Podcast number three hundred eighty- three. This version of becoming a sinner for
- 0:13being a furious fan of a football team I have listened to with different nuances.
- 0:20Since I was a Christian, I have heard ideas extrapolated from two different
- 0:26shores, objecting to or supporting people in their intention to enjoy football. If
- 0:34you participate in sports news in Colombia and if you know of my love for
- 0:39Atlético Bucaramanga and have conversations of this kind, perhaps a meme by José Ordñez
- 0:47has arrived in these days and that says this year if we were going to
- 0:53the liberators. That' s because my city' s football team has been
- 0:58doing what sports specialists call the best campaign ever. And all the times are
- 1:07seventy- five years old that this team has and, of course, as
- 1:14a number one fan or at least the most representative, I go out to
- 1:19the public arena to flood stickers, photos and memes in that daily jargon of
- 1:26the media and social networks. Well, not everyone applauds or sees with good
- 1:34eyes that passion that I have maintained since I was a child selling pineapple pieces
- 1:41in that same stadium, where the bucaramanga goes to as much as team comes
- 1:46to visit him. A pastor should not get tangled up in the affairs of
- 1:51the world, but all his efforts should focus on preaching the gospel. Some
- 1:57religious fanatics have told this Bucaramanga fan and I do not want to sit on
- 2:05the bench of the judge to judge the attitude of those who believe that any
- 2:10sporting taste is an altar that stands up to worship others. Gods more than
- 2:15God himself. No, but I don' t think God is going to
- 2:22feel displaced in the heart of the person who vibrates for ninety minutes with a
- 2:28sports match. That' s as much as if a dad gets mad because
- 2:31his son enjoys too much the toy he gave him for his birthday. But
- 2:37then we could end up sinning Christians when we' re fierce fans of a
- 2:44football team. Yes, we could end up sinning clearly that if everything must
- 2:53have a limit in our lives. Look at what it says first of Corinthian
- 2:58chapter number ten, verse number twenty- three. Everything is allowed to me,
- 3:02but not everything is profitable. Everything is allowed, but not everything is
- 3:07destructive. In some versions, for example, the best known, which is
- 3:14Queen Valera, it says everything is lawful for me, but not everything.
- 3:19It' s okay, everything' s legal to me, but not everything
- 3:27Builds up to set an example, leave me and I' ll tell you
- 3:29a joke. I never in this podcast of Christian reflections have I told a
- 3:34joke because there is already the podcast of jokes. If you' re not
- 3:39subscribed to that joke podcast yet. On this same platform you go and look
- 3:46for jokes by José Ordonez, and there you have hours and hours and hours
- 3:50for you to laugh and have fun with the huge collection of jokes. Imagine
- 3:54it' s more than ninety- two bile I' ve got. But
- 3:59well challenge I' m going to tell you a joke about a furious fan
- 4:04of a football team in Colombia. We know that the fiercest fans are those
- 4:10of independent Medellín. Completely full stadium. To Tanasio Girardot fifty thousand souls.
- 4:19Medellín plays the final of the Copa Libertadores with Boca Juniors of Argentina. The
- 4:27whole stadium is full. Except for a chair that' s empty. Someone
- 4:31then asks the gentleman who is next to the empty chair. Listen, sir,
- 4:36and that chair that' s empty there and says the Medellín fan already
- 4:43belongs to my wife and why your wife isn' t sitting there in that
- 4:46chair. No, I don' t. The thing is, my wife
- 4:49died. Oh, man, I' m really sorry, and if your
- 4:56wife died, why didn' t another relative come in and occupy that one.
- 4:59Not like that, all the relatives at this hour are at the funeral.
- 5:09You realized clearly that we can sin by being fierce fans of a football
- 5:14team, and this matter can become an idol when we abandon the normality of
- 5:19our life, when, instead of being with our family, we are in
- 5:24the stadium, when, instead of helping our children with their duties their duties,
- 5:29we are watching games, when day and night, fotbol occupies our minds
- 5:32and takes us out of a life at the service and consecration of our priorities.
- 5:42Just as the man from the joke I just told you, he didn
- 5:46' t mind not attending his wife' s funeral first was independent Medellin.
- 5:54My wife loves me having that passion. Says Yazmith, who takes me out
- 5:59of the busy press, from work, from the busy schedule I sometimes have
- 6:03with trips, shows, conferences and now with my new challenges of building cabins
- 6:10and trails for future Christian camps. She doesn' t have a problem seeing
- 6:16me there, sitting in my yellow and green shirt screaming for ninety minutes.
- 6:23Generally and unlike this year, be sad about the result, because I don
- 6:29' t know if I knew. We are the only team in Colombia that
- 6:32founded the Dimayor and we have not yet been champions. Sometimes my wife would
- 6:39tell my kids don' t bother Dad that the Bucaramanga lost and he'
- 6:44s not in a good temper and sometimes I' d say good go and
- 6:48ask Dad because the Bucaramanga won and he' s in a good mood.
- 6:54My kids always took advantage of it. When the bucaramanga won. It was
- 6:58the days when they used to ask for the heavy, more silver, gifts,
- 7:03exit permits. Anyway, now my kids are grown up and away from
- 7:10home, every time they want me to talk and delve into a subject,
- 7:15when they want me to feel like talking to them, getting out of the
- 7:19silence and having a pleasant conversation with Dad, they just propose to talk about
- 7:27the football team. When my birthday comes and even though I don' t
- 7:30like birthday celebrations less than birthday celebrations, they know that it' s only
- 7:35enough for them to take a stone, paint it green and I' ll
- 7:40love it and with that they' ve already given me the best gift in
- 7:43the world. But far from my sporty love and fierce passion for the Atetic
- 7:46Bucaramanga alienating me from God, they have allowed me to approach believe me with
- 7:54that team one learns patience, tolerance, faith mastery by op skin. Because
- 8:01I am the official fan, I have been invited to give talks to the
- 8:03players and then I take advantage to preach to them the love of Christ.
- 8:11I' ve been a counselor to some of them with their marriage problems in
- 8:16the middle of their sports life. The life of a sportsman, of a
- 8:20footballer is not easy. They are constantly changing cities, children' s school
- 8:26apartment where they live. They depend on the results team for their wives and
- 8:33children to have a stable life in a city and sometimes that doesn' t
- 8:37happen. That is where I, as a pastor and official fan, can
- 8:43approach them to counsel their wives, advise them, and help them by teaching
- 8:50them Christian principles to put them into practice. Some of them while playing here,
- 8:56in the city of Bucaramanga, come to houses on the rock the church
- 9:01where I have the honor of serving as support pastor. Some of the current
- 9:05staff have even come to hear me preach not to slit my sporting tastes and
- 9:11my love and service to God, because God encompasses everything in my life.
- 9:18I didn' t tell Jesus I give you everything but my sporting tastes and
- 9:22believe me. He didn' t tell me to give up all the sin
- 9:26and wonder you' ve got in that outfit. It doesn' t cover
- 9:31everything to him and he allows me to have my sporting passions. Be careful
- 9:37religion kills Jesus is life. I have seen that, in fact, some
- 9:41who criticize that we go too far the stadium, they go too far to
- 9:46the Church the service. The Church has become more of an idol than her
- 9:50own love for God. I have seen pastors who even intentionally program a prayer
- 9:56cult at the time of a party and au who do not go what they
- 10:01were discipline. Everything belongs to God, including your tastes for sport. Live
- 10:07the conscious irresponsibly. The Holy Spirit gives us the opportunity to master character and
- 10:15give everything the importance it has in life. This sporty reflection is podcast number
- 10:24three hundred and eighty- three. There are three hundred and eighty- two
- 10:28more waiting for you in José Ordoñez Cristiano com and there you find the community,
- 10:39you find the latest preaching, articles, relevant studies on many issues inherent
- 10:46in the family and the education of children. Go right now to José Ordoñez
- 10:50Cristiano com keep that page inside your favorites and continue to consult each time you
- 10:56have a question of any aspect to ask about our Christian family life. For
- 11:03now I want you to have a nice day, never take your eyes off
- 11:07that you have on Jesus, that the other things are only complementary, including
- 11:15sports. Have a nice day and God bless you