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  Speaker 4: Well, great Friday morning to you all. Welcome into the
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  Speaker 4: It is fantastic to have you with us on what
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  Speaker 4: should be another a lovely day here in the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 4: I can see it from my studio here looking over
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  Speaker 4: the How did that guy pronounce it?
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  Speaker 1: Pudget? Pudget sound? Oh it's gorgeous. Pudget. Oh boy, it's
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  Speaker 1: in its splendor right budget.
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  Speaker 5: Is showing on.
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  Speaker 1: That's pudget for you. Well, welcome into the radio show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna warm.
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  Speaker 4: Up this weekend a little bit as well, So all
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  Speaker 4: of you people that just cannot wait for eighty five
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  Speaker 4: degree weather. Looks like it's coming for a couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: Soak it up like a biscuit.
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  Speaker 6: They were saying on that yesterday the weather was saying
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  Speaker 6: that by Monday it would be ninety two the game here,
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  Speaker 6: But I haven't seen that on my weather out. I
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  Speaker 6: never know what I trust more a weather app or
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  Speaker 6: weather person.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 5: Usually find meet in the middle. Okay, so we'll go
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  Speaker 5: with a high of eighty eight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I just put it this way. It's gonna
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  Speaker 4: warm up a little bit. And I love how there's
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  Speaker 4: always this can't wait till it gets warm, And then
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  Speaker 4: the moment it does get legitimately warm, then you're given
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  Speaker 4: warnings of.
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  Speaker 1: The heat and advisory heat advisories. Stay in your house, don't.
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  Speaker 6: Leave, which I think I just have to say, we've gotten.
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  Speaker 5: Soft with the heat advisories, I think.
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  Speaker 6: So it said it starts on Sunday at eleven, and
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  Speaker 6: they looked in on my weather it said Sunday a
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  Speaker 6: high of eighty four.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, we're going heat advisories with eighty four degrees?
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  Speaker 4: Come on, now, Well, I guess if you live perpetually
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  Speaker 4: in a onesie. Yeah, and you always have a blanket
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  Speaker 4: around you.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're always warm zipping cocoa. Yes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: then you probably would warm up a little.
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  Speaker 6: Might be ill prepared for the eighty four degree day
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  Speaker 6: while exercising.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, those things will overeat you. You will get steamy,
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  Speaker 1: you will tap yourself out at that stage. Well, good
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  Speaker 1: morning to you, welcome into the radio show.
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  Speaker 4: We got a lot of things playing for you here
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  Speaker 4: on this fabulous Friday, a lot of really cool people
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  Speaker 4: we're going to stop by the show and take part
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  Speaker 4: of it today. So we're excited about that. And of
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  Speaker 4: course everybody seems to be community wide excited about being
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  Speaker 4: a part of the biggest sporting event in the world.
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  Speaker 4: The World Cup is now underway. Look at Mexico getting
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  Speaker 4: me a win already.
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  Speaker 6: Yesterday, No, they well they appreciated that you drafted them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, the fighting Moon Joses. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to bring it home this year. We had a green
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  Speaker 4: Jacket draft yesterday we did our preview and Jackson Feltz,
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  Speaker 4: my old.
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  Speaker 1: Producer who's turned into the sage of soccer here in town,
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  Speaker 1: told me you.
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  Speaker 5: Got a great team You've got a great team.
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  Speaker 1: I felt ten feet tall.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see how it plays out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see how So I do want to start there,
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  Speaker 4: and I do want to talk about soccer in America,
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  Speaker 4: and we do have the first American game of the
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  Speaker 4: World Cup tonight, six o'clock right here on ninety three
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  Speaker 4: point three KHRFM. They'll be make and on Paraguay. And
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  Speaker 4: for those wandering, translated to two guys, right, unlike Uruguay,
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  Speaker 4: which is just one guy solo.
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  Speaker 1: So we're taking on Paraguay tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Hard for me to believe, honestly, and I don't mean
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  Speaker 4: this to be offensive that Paraguay would be competitive with
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  Speaker 4: us in any sport, considering that we are mighty America
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  Speaker 4: that tends to do quite well. But this is soccer,
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  Speaker 4: and when you're talking about games that finish one nothing,
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  Speaker 4: two to one more often than not, I failed to
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  Speaker 4: see where there could even be registered a huge upset
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  Speaker 4: when you're playing games that narrowly and where a game
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  Speaker 4: can be decided on a penalty kick, yeah, or a
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  Speaker 4: bad call or a fake leg injury, because that's how
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you get those penalty kicks or a strange bounce
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  Speaker 4: of the ball. I mean, when you're playing games into
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  Speaker 4: one hundred points, you know there are a lot of
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  Speaker 4: ways to make up for a strange bounce of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: When you're playing to first to two, a strange bounce
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  Speaker 4: of the ball can cost you. I don't care who
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  Speaker 4: the competition is. And so yeah, you can't take anybody
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  Speaker 4: lightly in this tournament. I would imagine, even though I'm
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  Speaker 4: not a big soccer fan, you can't take anybody lightly
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  Speaker 4: in the sport period.
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  Speaker 1: And so I suspect.
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  Speaker 4: The US is going to have its hands full tonight,
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  Speaker 4: even though it is expected to win, and the US
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  Speaker 4: is supposed to take care of in soccer terms, its
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  Speaker 4: group play pretty easily. And so a lot of people wondering,
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  Speaker 4: as we start World Cup play all over again, here
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  Speaker 4: is this the year that the US shows that it's
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  Speaker 4: ready to take that big step forward globally and start
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  Speaker 4: infringing upon that conversation of being a global power on
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  Speaker 4: the pitch. And so here we go again, and and
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  Speaker 4: it all lies on the twenty twenty six US men's
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  Speaker 4: team Ashley to try to prove even if even if
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  Speaker 4: you don't make a run, I mean deep.
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  Speaker 5: Deep, right, if you don't go to the semi finals.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but are you going to take that leap
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  Speaker 4: forward that suggests that you are bridging the gap from
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  Speaker 4: good global soccer program two? Now we're ready to be
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  Speaker 4: mentioned in the same breath with you know, Spain and
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  Speaker 4: France and Germany and England and others. Is this the
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  Speaker 4: year that the team proves that and being able to
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  Speaker 4: play on home soil should certainly provide a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a benefit.
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  Speaker 6: I would think so, and I would think I think
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  Speaker 6: after listening to Anders and Jackson, my only concern would
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  Speaker 6: be that I think even if the US were to
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  Speaker 6: make a run, you know, if they got to the quarterfinals,
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  Speaker 6: let's say, I don't know that they would still be
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  Speaker 6: put on that level because it seems like because that
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  Speaker 6: those countries have been playing soccer and been so good
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  Speaker 6: at soccer for so long that I don't I think
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  Speaker 6: we'd have to have multiple World Cups where we made
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  Speaker 6: runs at it in order to even be mentioned in
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  Speaker 6: the scene.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't think.
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  Speaker 6: They have the respect for us that that those programs have.
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  Speaker 4: We are a bit of a prisoner of the moment
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  Speaker 4: community now in sports more so than ever. I think
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  Speaker 4: that that would that conversation would start if we made
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  Speaker 4: a deep, deep run. I do think in the moment
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  Speaker 4: that would happen. But I think you're right in terms
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  Speaker 4: of proving it long term, it is have a great
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  Speaker 4: successful Cup and that doesn't have to be win at all,
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  Speaker 4: but have a good run, deep run, and then you know,
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  Speaker 4: do it again the next time.
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  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: And now you're putting yourself in the conversation a bit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: And yet here's the truth of the matter. And look
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  Speaker 4: this know where this is coming from. I'm from a
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  Speaker 4: small town in Illinois, and when we had a kid,
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  Speaker 4: Todd Griggs still one of my best friends, and he
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  Speaker 4: moved to town. And there's a lot of soccer played
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  Speaker 4: in the Saint Louis area. It's a pretty pop It's
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  Speaker 4: a very popular sport. I think it was probably when
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  Speaker 4: I was growing up, it was as popular in Saint
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  Speaker 4: Louis as it might have been in any major metropolitan area.
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  Speaker 4: We had professional soccer there. We had a couple of
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  Speaker 4: terrific programs. The college that I went to, the tiny
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  Speaker 4: little college that I went to, it was known for wrestling, tennis,
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  Speaker 4: and soccer.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it was known for.
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  Speaker 4: So and we had a few like high schools that
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  Speaker 4: took it very seriously and were very good at it.
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  Speaker 4: But my little podunk high school with the Cornfield across
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  Speaker 4: the street, it was not one of those. As a
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  Speaker 4: matter of fact. When Todd Grigg moved into our community,
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  Speaker 4: was like, hey, hey, who plays soccer or like no one? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, you better let that go, buddy, if you're
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  Speaker 4: going to be a part of the a group around here,
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  Speaker 4: if you want to be one of the popular kids.
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  Speaker 1: And it took him a couple of years. He tried
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  Speaker 1: to fight the good fight.
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  Speaker 4: And he just gave into it and became a basketball
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  Speaker 4: player and ended up getting a D or a D
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  Speaker 4: two scholarship.
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  Speaker 5: That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very good. He was a very good player.
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  Speaker 4: Teammate of mine on that twenty six and oh team
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  Speaker 4: that I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I've ever told you about.
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  Speaker 5: No, I haven't heard about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were the backcourt. Yeah we went twenty six
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  Speaker 1: and oh together.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, So you win the state championship.
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  Speaker 1: Oh we did not.
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  Speaker 4: We got beat in the regional championships. Can't believe I
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  Speaker 4: have not told you this.
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  Speaker 5: I've never heard that story.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, we kind of guilted him out of liking soccer.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the community that I was born
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  Speaker 4: up in and I never did.
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  Speaker 1: Really attach to it. I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't think that I'm born with biases.
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  Speaker 4: And yet I'm going to admit, as I'm getting ready
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  Speaker 4: to explore this conversation, that's that's where I'm coming from.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to use that, say, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: why you feel that way. But I don't think we're
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  Speaker 1: ever going to bridge the gap. Yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think we can get better.
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  Speaker 5: We can get closer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeses.
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  Speaker 4: And I certainly recognize. And this is something that I
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  Speaker 4: never saw coming. I didn't think that we would have
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  Speaker 4: future generations. I didn't think the generation beneath me and
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  Speaker 4: then the generation beneath them now that's coming up. I
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  Speaker 4: never dreamed that they would like soccer as much as
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  Speaker 4: they do here in this country. But that has arrived,
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  Speaker 4: and I acknowledge it. I recognize this. So from a
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  Speaker 4: popularity standpoint, I mean, it's just taken off here in
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  Speaker 4: the last you know, fifteen twenty five years here in
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  Speaker 4: this country, and that's something that I did not see coming.
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  Speaker 4: So also use that if you want against me as
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  Speaker 4: I get ready to have this conversation, because it's certainly
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  Speaker 4: grown in popularity with American sports fans a lot more
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  Speaker 4: here in the last quarter century than I ever dreamed.
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  Speaker 1: That it would become. That said, though, and I.
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  Speaker 4: Heard somebody having this conversation earlier about and they were
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  Speaker 4: not from America, and they were asked, will we ever
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  Speaker 4: bridge the gap? And the suggestion was made, You've got
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  Speaker 4: to understand that os other countries, that's their number one sport.
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  Speaker 4: It's part of their culture. Yeah, like the best athletes
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  Speaker 4: in all of the grade schools have already started their
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  Speaker 4: track toward becoming soccer stars. I mean, that's what they
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  Speaker 4: want to do, and they immerse themselves in that sport,
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  Speaker 4: that community, the beautiful game, if you will, because what
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  Speaker 4: you know, they see their idols and they are soccer players. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we're still not there in this country. Our best athletes,
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  Speaker 4: when given a choice, our very best athletes, are still
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  Speaker 4: choosing basketball, football, and baseball. That's what we're choosing right now.
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  Speaker 4: So when I mean, I realize we have a monstrous
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  Speaker 4: country and we have a lot of benefits here that
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  Speaker 4: we don't give ourselves credit for having. A lot of
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  Speaker 4: you don't give us credit for having here in America,
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  Speaker 4: and we got like pretty good compared to a lot
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  Speaker 4: of countries, and so we also can foster, you know,
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  Speaker 4: very good we can. We've got a lot of talent
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  Speaker 4: to choose from from coast to coast, and so we
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  Speaker 4: are getting better and slowly bridging the gap from those
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  Speaker 4: other countries that have been soccer powers forever.
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  Speaker 1: But it's slow.
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  Speaker 4: The process is so slow that I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: it's ever going to be a significant leap, because they're never.
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  Speaker 1: Going to stop making soccer.
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  Speaker 4: Their number one love and the best athlete, and those
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  Speaker 4: schools at Spain is like I want to be, you know.
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  Speaker 1: The next Ronaldo? Is that his name? Yeah, that's his name. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, Oh yeah, That's that's who I was.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't there a Ronaldino two or something like that?
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  Speaker 4: That's who I want to be. And so that's that's
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  Speaker 4: their measuring stick. That's what they're they're shooting for, and
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  Speaker 4: we're just not. They're in this country at this point,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not sure we'll ever be. So if you
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  Speaker 4: even though you're getting more popular and you're reaching out
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  Speaker 4: to more kids and the game is growing, You're still
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  Speaker 4: not number one, you're not number two, you're still not
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  Speaker 4: number three, and it will take at least another generation
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  Speaker 4: to even have a shot at that of cracking the
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  Speaker 4: top three here in the country. Even I mean, hockey
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  Speaker 4: is getting more popular in America and in the Southern States.
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  Speaker 4: So how do you bridge the gap when you're still
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  Speaker 4: the fourth most popular thing in your country and that
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  Speaker 4: sport has never ever stopped being the number one sport
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  Speaker 4: in other countries.
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  Speaker 6: And you think about it, to your top athletes when
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  Speaker 6: they reach their peak, They're not staying here to play,
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  Speaker 6: are they. They're going to Europe to play soccer players
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  Speaker 6: when they're the best at the game. Well, sure so then,
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  Speaker 6: but so then even your top talent isn't staying here
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  Speaker 6: to help just make it even more popular.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're still playing for America.
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  Speaker 5: Right, No, them is.
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  Speaker 4: Going to have a hard time, you know, growing because
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  Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, But still, I mean, that's actually sharpening
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  Speaker 4: our knife, is that they play professionally. They're good enough
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  Speaker 4: now that they play professionally in Europe and it is
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  Speaker 4: making them better. And then they come back and they
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  Speaker 4: wear the red, white and blue of the United States.
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  Speaker 4: That's actually sharpening our knife that they're making that decision,
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  Speaker 4: but the fact that all of the best leagues are there,
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  Speaker 4: even though the MLS.
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  Speaker 6: Is it's grown massively, massively and very clear that that's
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  Speaker 6: happening as well.
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  Speaker 4: Still nonetheless, yes, the US product is getting better and
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  Speaker 4: it's growing, but all of those other.
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  Speaker 1: Countries, it's not declining.
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  Speaker 4: They're still growing themselves, They're still getting better themselves, they're.
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  Speaker 5: Still producing the next star.
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  Speaker 4: More of an appetite now because of how much money
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  Speaker 4: is made by the top stars in the sport overseas
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  Speaker 4: compared to what it is here in America, where if
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  Speaker 4: you grow up as an American child, an American athlete.
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  Speaker 1: And you're making that decision on what sport.
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  Speaker 4: I want to play, you're looking at, Okay, who are
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  Speaker 4: Who's the idol that I can look up to? And
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  Speaker 4: it's probably going to be and Edwards making sixty million
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  Speaker 4: dollars a year wearing pajamas for a living. It's probably
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  Speaker 4: going to be you know, Julio Rodriguez or Cal Rawley.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably going to be you know, Patrick Mahomes. You know,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's still where we are. And so I do
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  Speaker 4: wonder if we'll ever bridge the gap, even though we
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  Speaker 4: are as a country and as a sport in this country, growing, developing,
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  Speaker 4: maturing every single year. And I do believe that America
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  Speaker 4: is closing the gap. It's that's such a gradual state.
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  Speaker 4: How are you ever going to make that big jump
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  Speaker 4: forward to be on the same level with countries whose
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  Speaker 4: interest in their sport, love in their sport is not
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  Speaker 4: declining whatsoever. Their young athletes are hungrier than ever to
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  Speaker 4: become the next great soccer star in their country, where
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  Speaker 4: I don't think our best athletes are making those decisions
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  Speaker 4: even at age thirteen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I would agree, I would agree.
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  Speaker 6: And I think when I brought up the point about
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  Speaker 6: the MLS and that our best players are going over there,
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  Speaker 6: fully understand that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's making them better.
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  Speaker 6: But I also think if you get to the point
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  Speaker 6: if with the MLS where you're getting those top athletes
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  Speaker 6: to stay here, yes, then that makes this sport now
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  Speaker 6: people see Okay, no, look, I can make some money
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  Speaker 6: here at home, and I can do these things because
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  Speaker 6: you're growing that which then grows all the way down.
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  Speaker 5: But that is a long process.
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  Speaker 4: Maam, Well, it's growing, yes, it's getting better, and it's
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  Speaker 4: more popular. And I'll here's the best compliment I can
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  Speaker 4: give the sport of soccer.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding you. Every time I drive by.
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  Speaker 4: A park, there are always soccer matches going on, always,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't care if it's a league or if
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  Speaker 4: it's a pickup game, but they are always. There's not
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  Speaker 4: always baseball, and it's not you know, football, I think
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  Speaker 4: is kind of a different commodity because I don't think
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  Speaker 4: they just play at the school or wherever they might be.
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  Speaker 4: But whenever you go by, and there are some really
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  Speaker 4: impressive facilities that have obviously been grown that are multi
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  Speaker 4: sports facilities, so you can do anything you want in
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: there pretty much. And yet every time you drive by rain, snow, sleet,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter heat, They're always playing soccer. And I'll
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: give them credit for that. So we are definitely seeing
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: a huge push in enjoyment of the sport, enjoyment of
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: playing the sport. But I do wonder if it will
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: ever grow, like American soccer will ever ever be on
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: the same level as other countries, because we're still a
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: long way away from it being the preferred sport of
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: young athletes in America.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I fully agree, Yeah, all right, let's find out
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: what's on tap for the rest of the.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: Show, what's on TV, what's on tech?
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: All right, So anders Hurst is going to join us
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: in the O Show today at eight o'clock. That'll be
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: our top story of our eight top stories of Friday,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: US versus Paraguay tonight at six o'clock right here on
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: KJAR will preview it with one of our own. Anders
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Hurst will join us at eight o'clock. The Seahawks offseason
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: program ended yesterday, and so the world champs have decided
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: to take their summer break their summer vacations before reconvening
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: on July twenty fifth for the start of training camp
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: and the defense of their championship. No coincidence. Mike McDonald
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: always does things in a very foxy intelligent way. Foxy,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: he gave them their championship rings. I mean sometimes that
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: ceremony and a lot of sports that ceremonies held like
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: on the opening day of the season and everybody gets
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: their championship rings. And I think that was his way
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: of saying, And I don't know, I'm not sure if
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: this happens with other NFL teams, that was his way
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: of saying This is it, guys. This is the end
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: of last year.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I think so too.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not start off the next season by celebrating the
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: last season.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Now you got all the work to do all over again.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: You spend the next six months admiring your ring and
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: your accomplishments. But when we reconvene again, it is about
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five is long behind us.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I agree, So we'll talk to Greg Bell about that
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: at seven oh five. Our Seahawks one series continues today.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Brian Walters has never been a part of the Seahawks
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: one series, so we're gonna have the former Seahawk on
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: today and can't wait to have him on the show
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: and find out who he selects to analyze for one
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: entire interview right here on Chuck and Buck Stanley Cup Final.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Another terrific game last night Carolina, though a little more
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: lopsided than the previous games. They opened up a three
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: goal lead at one point in this game scored four
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: unanswered goals. They're two best players. Ajo and sveshnikoffer offensive
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: players finally showed up to score goals in that game
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: last night. But Jordan Stall's been the story this entire series.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, when did he become the best player in
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, great question. I did appreciate though. That's Sveetchnikoff trying
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: to give you a late, late push.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, He's like.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: You know what, I'm I got, I got you chuck.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm only like fifteen.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got fourteen goals coming next game.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Game six will be held on Sunday, and the Hurricanes
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: could win Lord Stanley's Cup on Sunday. Game five of
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the NBA Finals Tomorrow it could be over for the
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: San Antonio Spurs. Tomorrow, the Knicks will have their first
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: of potentially three possibilities to win the NBA Championship that
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: will take place tomorrow. Spencer Hawes has finally calmed down
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: enough that he's going to join us today at eighth
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: to talk about the NBA Finals Storm and Action tonight
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: at seven o'clock against the Golden State Valkyries. The College
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: World Series starts today. West Virginia versus Troy is your
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: first game that will begin at eleven a m.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Baltimore and Seattle.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Yesterday, in Major League Baseball, the Orioles won the last
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: two games of a four game series yesterday Brian wo
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: tattooed a bit seven to five the final score. So
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the thirty six and thirty four Seattle Mariners will take
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: a train ride to Washington, d C. To start a
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: three game weekend series with the Nationals tonight and also
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: tonight in Tacoma. I don't think Col's going to play,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: but I'll be in Tacoma to broadcast tonight's Rainiers game
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: with Riley pay and I'm sure cal Riley will be
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: a big topic of conversation during the course of our
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: broadcast today. But coming up next we'll recap that crappy
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: game in Baltimore yesterday. It's Mariners Morning After Chuck and
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Ashley with you on Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 22:02
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• 22:10
  Speaker 8: Chuck at one time to pass and even that one
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: wasn't slaves contact Spetch the cough again.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Back to cost despair systems, pressure setch the bat Stars,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Andre Spetch.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: The top play Go Turn one Carolina League. I think
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: it's so selfish of him to have not scored more.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Early, just trying to win the Stanley Cup.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, he's a key member, my last remaining member of
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: my Green Jacket fantasy team, and now he decides to
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: show up and score goals.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I think, really your whole team was selfish.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Think about others, Think about somebody other than yourself.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, think about people trying to win stuff.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Svetchn cough.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: If that is your real name.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Probably isn't Probably Andre Spencer, It's.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Andrew Chuck and it's Ashley with you as we roll
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: into our seven o'clock hour here on this Friday morning,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Greg Bell's going to join us there in a little
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: bit as we wrap up the Seahawks off season. Let
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: me fire through your headlines. The Stanley Cup Final is
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: down to just one more win needed from the Carolina
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Hurricanes after last night's four to two victory over the
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Las Vegas Golden Knights. They could celebrate with Lord Stanley
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: come Sunday evening in Charlotte, North Carolina. We shall see
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Game six will be played in Las Vegas. NBA Finals
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Game five will be tomorrow, and it could end in
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: San Antonio, Texas. The Spurs are gonna have to win
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: three straight games against the Knicks in order to win
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: the NBA Championship. Spencer Hawsele join us today to discuss
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: that at eight thirty Storm in Action tonight, at seven
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: o'clock against the Golden State Valkyries. College World Series starts
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: today in Omh, West Virginia, taking on Troy as your
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: first game of the College World Series at eleven o'clock.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Two games today, two games tomorrow.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Baltimore wins over the Mariners seven to five last night,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: so after winning two wild, crazy games in Maryland the
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: first two games of this four game series, Baltimore evens
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: things up by the end of matters and so at
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: thirty six and thirty four, the Ms pick up their
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: wounded hearts and pride and head down the street to Washington,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: d C. To take on the Nationals starting tonight in
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: a three game series. Meanwhile, calt Raleigh continues almost called
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: him cal Tacoma. Cal Raley continues to it home runs
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: in Tacoma. He's at three and two games. He looks ready,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: but sounds like they're going to slope play this through
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: the weekend and then activate him for Tuesday, when a
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: homestand begins against the Baltimore.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Orioles, and of course, the World Cup going on.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: It started yesterday with a two to nothing or two
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: nil victory for Mexico over South Africa. A little more
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: action going to take place today with the U taking
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: on Paraguay to start their World Cup experience this evening
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: at six o'clock, and you can hear that action right
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM. But
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: joining us now and for the final time of the
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Seahawks off season, it is Greg Bell that is going
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: to join us. Of course, we'll have him on all
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: the time, but it is a commemorative day because a
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: mandatory mini camp ended yesterday, and so we get caught
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: up to date from our Seahawks insider Greg Bell. Good morning, sir,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Good morning. Are you I'm all right, I'm all right.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Did it feel like a finish line for you yesterday?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: No? No, it feels like summer is about to end.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: They got five six weeks left. Reminder, actually, people, summer
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: is just beginning, minus a clock on it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Ashley and I were just discussing this. I really don't know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: and maybe I should have looked into this before. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: talked about it three times before seven point fifteen today.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: But I don't really know how NFL teams have handed
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: out their championship rings, or at least I cannot recollect.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But I do love doing it. This way.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I love that Mike McDonald pretty much was making the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: gesture yesterday that last season is over as of right now,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: so when I see you again, it's all about twenty
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: twenty six. We're not going to have any ceremonies celebrating
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, obviously by design.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: What did you make of.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: All of that? Well, yeah, Iar and I were talking
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: about this yesterday on the air. We can't remember when
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: we were covering those Seahawks that won Super Bowl forty eight.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: We can't remember when they got their rings, but it
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: was later than this. It might have been in the
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: preseason or during training camp at some point. There is
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: a natural logic to this. This and the player Gray
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: is Able talked about this yesterday. How this doing it
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: yes last night is a natural break for Okay, we're
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: putting everything behind us now in June, so that when
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: we go in July, it's for twenty twenty six and
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: it's a fresh start, and it's about a new team
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and new challenges and it's not some and they keep
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: saying this and they're starting to parent Mike McDonald. It's
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: not about repeating and doing it again. It's about doing
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it this year. Because it is its own entity. It's
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: true the rams of forty nine ers, nobody on their
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: schedule is going to play them and this year and say, oh,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl last year, so this game
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: is going to be different than it would have been otherwise.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So that's what this represents. And that was the timing,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: and they, I don't want to say rushed it through,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: but they made sure the players, coaches and football staff
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: that will be intrically involved in training can't cut their
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: rings last night. The rest of the organization, the marketing
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: and the executives and the people in the third floor
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: of the building didn't get them last night. So that's
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: another indication that they were just trying to make sure
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: these rings for the players, coaches and football staff got
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: done last night. To move on, Mike McDonald is nothing
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: if he's not calculated in intent behind everything and messaging consistency.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: This is another example of that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I say they skimped on the rings this year.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Real cheap got him out of a bubblegum machine at Walmart.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: There are a ton of white diamonds, blue sapphires. They've
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: got pieces of a football used in games last year
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: that are embedded underneath a side of the ring that
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: you pop up. And I don't know anything about the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: technology behind that. Wow, but there's actually pieces of weather
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: inside the ring. My story at the News Tribune Newstribute
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: dot com has that and all the details and video
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: and pictures from last night's ceremony. It was a very
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: closely guarded secret. They were at a restaurant I'm guessing
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: in Bellevue or somewhere on the East Side, and it
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: was a gala. They had a big, big event, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: the players are really looking forward to it, and Crazy
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Abel was looking forward to cracking over with some more
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: bush lights and celebration. For this doesn't happen very much. Yeah,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: this franchise has been in existence for fifty now fifty
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: one years, and then last night was only a second
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: time Seattle Sea Hoow got a Super Bowl ring. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I've been doing this for a quarter with twenty five
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: years now. This is the second time I've covered a
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion. So as much as we optimistic and saying, oh,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: can they run it back? Do it again, this doesn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: happen very often. Last night was a really really special event.
• 29:38
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• 29:57
  Speaker 4: like the Ran like my he takes a field trip
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: with the group in essence as part of mini camp.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Sounds like Sean McVay shut things down for the Rams
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: and just started the off started their vacation a little
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: bit early. Is that just a matter of great teams
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: can do that that don't have as much to work on,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: or are some head coaches out there Greg getting the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: idea of, man, we don't have to just go, you know,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: full scale twelve months out of the year. These guys
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: need some breaks, and we're going to give them longer breaks.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It's an easy way to get on the good side
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of the players and to give them a cookie. As
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Mike Congrid would say, the forty nine ers did the
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: same thing. They canceled their entire mini camp. No, some
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: of that I was talking to my forty nine writer
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: buddies down there, and some of that was because the
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: world Cup has overtaken. Forty nine are headquarters and the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: practice facility which is attached to Levi's stadium in Santa Clara,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and the World Cup games are being played in that stadium,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: So logistically it was very hard for they're forty nine
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: ers that have mini camp in June for the World
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Cup taken over. But yeah, the trend is that let's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: give these guys these Honestly, these practices don't matter. They're
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: in T shirt shorts. You don't need your starters practice.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And now it helps the younger players, the rookies accelerate
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and acclimate and get used to the NFL game and
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the playbook. But for the guys that are going to
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: be playing this year, it doesn't matter whether Devin Witherspoon
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: practices on June tenth. So they bag them and it
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: looks like a reward and the players think that the
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: coaches are on their side, and then it sends the
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: players off into the six weeks until training camp starts
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: with motivation to follow the training coach of strength and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: conditioning coach and position coaches plan for them the next
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: six months, six weeks. When they take this break, Now
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: they don't just the coaches just don't say, hey, we'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: see in six weeks. They have a detailed plan that
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the strength and conditioning staff gives each player on what
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: to work on and how to keep their bench marks
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: for weight and speed and agility and flexibility and all
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: the metrics that they use. Now how to keep those
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: consistent heading into camp. The days are gone where guys
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: just show up the training camp and then the coach
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: puts him on a mile run and there's a fitness
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: test and whoever barson throws up gets fined or put
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: on the side. Yeah, if it works that any.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Work, put your cigarette down and run the forty for me?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not that. So this is another
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: way to motivate players to stay in the program mentally
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and physically the next six weeks.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Our sacks inside of Greg Bell is with us here
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: this morning. All right, So you mentioned Devin Witherspoon. Get
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: any indication as to when they are going to sit
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: down at this bargaining table and try to get him
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: his extension.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Well, typically, as I just said, this is the gone
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: fishing portion of the NFL calendar from today until a
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: day or two before three days before training camp everyone's gone.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Everyone in the building. Everyone, I mean talking to the
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: lawns keepers, the dog everyone's gone because there's nothing going on,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: and they encourage people to take their vacations and all
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: of that. So that typically isn't when this gets done.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Typically Mike John Schneider has gotten it done in the
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: days around first few days of either right before or
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: more likely a couple of days into training camp. By
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: thinking about Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner, some other big extensions
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: that have been done at around the start of training camp.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: So training camp starts July twenty fifth, it's logical that
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: it would be honor about twenty fifth or a few
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: days after that this gets done. It'll get done. There's
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: nothing in Greg McDonald's plan that says Devin Witherspon's not
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: on the team after this year. He's completely central to
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: everything that McDonald wants to do on defense. I see
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: him moving around at left corner, at right corner, even
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: more than in previous years so far in the offseason workouts.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I see him at Nickel, I see him bit. I
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: see him everywhere. I hear him everywhere. So he's yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: this will get done. I think he's going to be
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: more than thirty one million a year. I think he's
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: going to eclipse Trent McDuffie as the highest paid cornerback
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: in the NFL.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Does Mike McDonald arrange it? Because I read where you
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: wrote that the defense dominated the last bit of mini camp.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Does he arrange it? I mean, is that just the
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: defense in him? He just makes sure he puts the
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: defense in the best position possible so they get to
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: walk off.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Is he kind of, you know, petty like that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: It seems that way. It seemed orchestrated. It felt that way.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I will say, Sam Donald, the starters did not work
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: eleven on eleven much as much ones versus one yesterday.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: So when I say the defensive dominated, was mostly the reserves.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: A couple of nights stand out plays from Julian Neil,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the rookie third round cornerback Bud Clark had a couple
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: of great pass breaks up in the end zone off
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: of Drew Locke passes a couple of interceptions, including one
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: by Neil. The typical is that the defense runs it
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: all the way to the other end zone to complete
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: the play. Witherspoon was running with him one hundred yards
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: to the other end zone by the building. Then they
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: tossed the ball up in the air and they shot
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: it like it was a duck or some clay pigeon
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: and ski shooting practice. They did that three or four times.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Witherspoon gets an absolute kick out of yelling and screaming
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: at the offense as he runs one hundred yards down
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: the field to the other end. But at the end
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: of practice there was a sack, would have been a
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: sack of Jalen Miller on a naked bootleg play, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: McDonald pumped his fist and pumped his arm and he
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: was pleased and he made sure the practice and then
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: the offseason ended on that play, the defense dominating yet again.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: So it should be that way. This is the number
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: one rank defense in the NFL, and they have a
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator in Brian Flurry, and usually the defense
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: is the head of the offense. Anyway, they're not in
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: pad so offensive lines not being able to assert itself
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: so on. But the tone was yes, a very Mike
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: McDonald defense. First tone ten the off season practices.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Are they ready for hard knocks? Has been a big
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: conversation here in the last few weeks with these different
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: various camps. Anybody actually looking forward to it? What's the
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: pulse there with those cameras coming to training camp this year?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I only hear them talking about it when we
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: ask them, which seems to be someone ask them every
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: day about that. The NFL films crews, they're already doing
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: preliminary work and they've been out there this week shooting
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: mini camp and I've been watching over their shoulder, thinking,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: how are you going to use this? There's nothing really
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: a value that it will apply by August, in late
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: August when viewers will be watching, but they have tongue
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: in cheek when they talk about it. They say, oh, yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: we looking forward to it. This is a nuisance for
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: the players and the coaches in their daily lives, but
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: once it airs, they'll get a kick out of chide
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: each other and what dudes look like on film. And
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you said that. I can't believe they
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: use that that kind of stuff. It adds a little
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: bit to the fraid a vibe that sometimes goes on
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: in camp. So I do think it is a challenge
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: for Mike McDonald and John Schneider to keep their culture
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: under wraps, to keep it proprietary and only they know
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: what they have here. They don't want any secret sauce
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: recipes getting blasted out on HBO across national television. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: so the challenge is to be accessible and cordial and
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: cooperative and show and give nothing. Can they do that?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Can they swing the doors open, have them in meetings
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: and the cameras rolling, yet revealed nothing about the inner culture,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: because that, honestly, Chuck, and We've talked about this. They
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: think that's the reason they won the Super Bowl. It's
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: not the x's and o's that everyone can see and study.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: It's what they have inside the locker room, inside the building,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the culture that no one else can see, and they're
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: not really willing to share that. That's what this threatens
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, normally, you know, in the last couple
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: of years, I would have told you enjoy the next
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: few weeks off, But you were the fool that took
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• 38:13
  Speaker 3: So that's right. I'd be covering a World Cup for
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the News Tribune and for KJR and doing shows from
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Jimmy's right across the street from the stadium. And yeah,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not going too far away.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: All right man, Well, thank you, we appreciate it and
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: we'll see us soon, all right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Thanks Hi Freda, Greg Bell our Seahawks insider.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, the follow me at g Bell Seattle there
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• 38:40
  Speaker 4: And even though the off season program ended yesterday, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: we're going to have Sea Hawk news all the.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Time and we're going to lean on Greg Bell for that.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it will be a it'll be a quick five
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: weeks still training camp begins, and I'm excited to have
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  Speaker 4: Greg with a brand new sponsor, the Emeral Queen Casino,
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  Speaker 4: it's nice to have them back in our arm, into
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  Speaker 5: Put your head right here in the crook of my neck.
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  Speaker 1: Ye, a little cheek to cheek.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll feel great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going down to Tacoma today for good as well.
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  Speaker 5: Go to Emerald Queen Casino.
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• 39:29
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  Speaker 1: Hey, there's that Cornfield again.
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  Speaker 5: They're doing they're doing great things, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up next, the ABC's of the M's on Sports
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  Speaker 4: Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M.
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  Speaker 1: They really warmed themselves by it on a cold, cold night.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, it is Chuck Pallin Ashley Ryan with you
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: ABC's of the MSA daily Mariner segment here on our
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: radio program, a service that we provide. We go through
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: the alphabet to lead us to various Mariner topics, not
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: necessarily leaning on last night's game, which by the way,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: was a loss seven to five to.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: The Baltimore Orioles.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Is Brian Wu got a bit whacked around last night
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: by the Baltimore Orioles really for just one inning, but.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: It's sufficed that was enough.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was rough. Yeah, that was the worst ending
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: of his career.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: They said, yeah, yeah, seven five the final score. More
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: on that coming up in the OA show at eight o'clock.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: But we left off of the letter you yesterday and
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: you was for unnecessary. I realized Miles master Bony had
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: a hit last night, cold Emerson did not. But it
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: is so unnecessary in today's day and age, especially that
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Cold Emerson is hitting behind Miles master Bony in our lineup.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, what are we really doing. We're
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: trying to teach him a lesson that you got to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: earn things around here, young boy? Is that what this
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: is all about?
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: We know Emerson's a more dangerous hitter than what master
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Bony is. We've got enough evidence to support that. I mean,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Dodgers hit Shohyotani leadoff for a reason,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: and that reason is we don't want to lose one
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: game where our best hitter is on deck because we
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: could have hit him higher in the order, and yet
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: because we hit him third or fourth, he ended up
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: being in the on deck circle and the guy in
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: front of him got an out.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Yep and show it. The game ended with our best hitters.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: That's why they hit the best.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Hitter in the National League lead off for the Los
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Angeles Dodgers. Well, the same thing applies here. I was
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: just so sure that that game was going to end
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: with Miles master Bony at the plate because we're doing
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: some sort of.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: You know, you gotta earn it kid, old school.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Mantra, no player, better player higher in the order. I
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: get we're not hitting him clean up. I get we're
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: not gonna lead him off. We don't want to put
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that kind of pressure on a twenty year old. But
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: there's no reason for cold Emerson to be hitting behind
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Miles master Bony in our lineup.
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: Ever.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think he's He doesn't seem like the
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: type of player either that needs to be taught where
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: he belongs.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: That's a great point too, because that's the reason that
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: we've sped him to the majors is because he's different, right, Like, Like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: if we hit him seventh, that's gonna go to his head.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: So enough enough, stop being cute about this. Yeah, you
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: know again, I'm just gonna lean on this all year long.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Our best our starting rotation should be five guys strong,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: and it should be the best five guys, and our
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: starting lineup should be the best nine guys.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And in that starting lineup, we're.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Gonna hit our better guys in more advantageous positions.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: In the order.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I think that's how it's supposed to work.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Is not that hard.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, stop playing chess, just play checkers.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: VA is for vaccinations.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: So, over the course of the last two days there
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: in Baltimore, despite the fact that we seem to be
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: on a little bit of roll, we clearly decided that
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: we need to rest our entire bullpen for two days.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: That was obviously a goal. Now, I'm not saying they
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: weren't trying to win those games. I'm am saying this though,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: that once they fell behind, the priority was clearly not winning.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: The priority was our relief pitching core needed time off.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: They We needed to find a way in our schedule,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: our busy schedule, to give our entire bullpen, our best
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: five guys.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Some rest and relaxation.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: And so I hope you accomplished what you set out
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: to accomplish, and I hope that there's a different approach
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: to how you're going to use the bullpen going forward
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: the rest of the year, because there actually there is
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: no excuse for being this thin in your bullpen at
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: this point in the season.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: We are in them.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: We're not even in the middle of June, yet we
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: are seventy games into a one hundred and sixty two
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: game schedule. Our relief pitching corps has thrown fewer innings
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: than any bullpen in the American League. And yet we
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: get to June tenth and we've got to designate two
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: days as a get well day for the entire bullpen.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, say what you want.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe I've overreacted to some of the ways Dan Wilson
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: has managed and made some decisions.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: You know, I've asked Ryan Heey.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Ryan Healy doesn't see anything wrong with the way Dan
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Wilson has used as his pen. I know if Bucky
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: were here, he wouldn't have a problem with the way
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Dan's used his pen. I have, But I will say this,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I just don't see, when you are using your relief
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: pitchers less than and anyone else in baseball, how you
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: could end up in such a pickle in mid June
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: that you can barely get through a series because all
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: of your relief pitchers are tired.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: The two equations don't even add up together, do they No,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: they don't, And it does seem like it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: It is more of it isn't a strategy. It is
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: more of a oh, we're just gonna rest. It's not
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: I mean it's over the last two games because you
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: did just let your or your starting pitcher how to
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: blow up inning, you let them stay in the game
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: for a little bit longer, and then you used last
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: night only two relief pitchers, the night before only one.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: So it does seem like you're trying to just openly say, Okay,
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: we need resp we're struggling, and I can't quite understand, Like,
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: if that's the case, how are we gonna make it
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: through an entire season?
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I just said, I mean that does happen during
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: the course of the season where you're like, oh man,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: whatever we can do, We'll even kick a game or
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: two in order to get our bullpen back to where
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: it's needs to be.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But that typically happens.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: After you've had like one, maybe even two guys in
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: your starting rotation who couldn't get out of the third
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: inning and it just blew the whole thing up, and
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: now you're like, all right, we gotta strategize.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: We got a fan. I mean, we even used the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: phanom I L already on a guy.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: We've got to figure out we got somebody, some relief
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: pitcher is gonna have to go five innings tonight, we're
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: gonna have to throw a shortstop where Johnny Parade is
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: gonna have to pitch tonight. I mean, there are those
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: hoops that you've got to jump through during the course
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: of one hundred and sixty two games. But if we're
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: already forced to jump through them in the middle of June,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: when our bullpen's been used less frequently than anyone else's bullpen,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: something's gotten mismanaged, right, And I.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: Think in the end, yes, will we be excited that
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: or happy that our relief pitchers are fresher than other people, Probably,
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: but what are they going to be.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: That's we're gonna struggle.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: And then also, yeah, with our six man rotation, this
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: is supposed to be helping the bullpen, right, They're supposed
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: to the starters are supposed to go longer.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not necessarily going.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Right, but the bullpen is so.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: But I would look at that if I'm the Mariner's
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: organization as a whole, and say, well, clearly, the six
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: man rotation isn't working because our starters can't go long
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: enough to give our bullpen any relief.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I think it needs to be scrapped.
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: Yah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I mean if the six man rotation is really creating
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: this kind of havoc with your bullpen, that you can
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: win the first two games of a series and then
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: fall behind. The moment you fall behind, just kind of
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: like the priority is not to come back here, the
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: priority is to rest our bullpen. And we didn't score
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: enough runs to come back anyway.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm not laying it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not blaming the last two losses Alex Hopy, Nick Devila.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: They both did a good job.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: anything to suggest that. But what I am saying is
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: that if you're already in this big of a pickle,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: when you're using your bullpen less than anybody else, what
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: is that going to say when things actually do.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Get a little hairy. Yeah, it makes me nervous at
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: stages during the course of the season.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Finally, WS four Wu and obviously Brian Wu is having
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: some difficulty figuring things out on the road. I think
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: he will be fine, But in light of a six
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: man rotation or a five man rotation with a piggyback,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's there's no question about it. The two
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: guys that are struggling right now are Brian Wu and
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: George Kirby. Those are the two guys that are struggling
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: right now. Logan's back on his game, Bryce has been dominant,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Castillo's found something, and Hancocks our all Star. Of all
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: the people on our rotation, he's the guy that's going
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: to be in the All Star Game this year as
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: long as he keeps things going through July. So I
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: don't know how they're going to handle that. I don't
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: think Brian Wu and George Kirby would handle being piggybacked
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: very well at all.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Probably not, but you might need to just deal with
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: it for the team.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: But right now, there's no doubt the two starting pitchers
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: that are performing the worst are George Kirby and Brian Wu.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: All Right, coming up next on the program, I was
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: gonna talk about something else, but I've got to ask
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: this question. When did Dick Thing become Matt Foley Sports
• 49:19
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  Speaker 1: Garanteed Human, It's time for the U Shoe.
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  Speaker 1: The World Cup.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that morning, the green jacket dress.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Right now, anders Hurst is on the phone line shaking
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  Speaker 4: his head saying, no, that's not.
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  Speaker 4: Joining us now on the program is one of our
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  Speaker 4: three kJ R FM. It is great to have anders
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  Speaker 4: Hurst join us to start the show here today. Happy world,
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  Speaker 4: cupping to you, sir.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning guys. Appreciate you having me on.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: I will say I'm wearing my US men's national team
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: jersey to it right now as we speak. So it
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: is being well represented. And and you know, I subscribe
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: to the theory that Softy has in the afternoon where
• 50:29
  Speaker 10: if you're going to kick off the show to kind
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: of like bring a guest on to kick off the show,
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: you better be a damn good guest. And I think
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  Speaker 10: that same theory applies to the.
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: Show, does it not.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, yeah, yeah, And we couldn't get anybody else,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: so Yeah, that's fair, all right, So uh, let's go ahead.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: And deal with my outlandish statement that you overheard while
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: you were on hold the does the does America have
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: any chance of of winning it all?
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: I it's tough to say they have much of a
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: chance to win it all. I do believe they will
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: go on a kind of a magical run as kind
• 51:12
  Speaker 10: of the.
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: Phrase that I've been using.
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: Think of it kind of like a Cinderella story in
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: the NCAA tournament, right, the Florida Gulf Coasts never win
• 51:22
  Speaker 10: it all. It's like that they can get to the
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: Elite eight sometimes or even maybe a Final four, like
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: the George Masons of the world.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: But I feel like, so that's what the US team
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: is like a twelve or a thirteen seed in the
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: NCAA tournament.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're equating it to.
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: I probably say more like a nine or a ten seed.
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: But yeah, in that same realm, they are ranked I
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: think number fifteen or sixteen in the world, So that
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: would I guess translate to a little bit lower of
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: a seed than that. But in terms of soccer, we've
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: talked about it before. There's only been eight champions total
• 51:58
  Speaker 10: in what almost one hundred year tournaments. So it's just
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: something that the top, top, top teams more often than
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: not win. You rarely get the actual, you know, Cinderella
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: story winning the tournament, but you can definitely get a
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: nice run out of it, and that will be a positive.
• 52:17
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying that that wouldn't be an amazing experience
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: as a US men's national team fan.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: So what about tonight, Let's just take this one step
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: at a time. What do you think of this matchup
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: tonight with Paraguay.
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it First of all, you must win
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: for the US. It's hard to say that in the
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: first game of the season or the season, first game
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: of the tournament, but it's one of those where if
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: you were to kind of either draw or lose this game,
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: you put immense pressure on yourself in the USA Australia
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: match in Seattle. Because Turkey is the second best team
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: in this group, maybe even the best depending on how
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: you look at it. It's having to go into that
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: third game needing a result to get out of the
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: group would be very stressful and I think there would
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: be something where the pressure would be easily mounted on
• 53:08
  Speaker 10: the boys. But Paraguay's a very winnable game. So that's
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: the other reason why it's a most when it's because
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: you should be winning this game. All the expectations on
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: this team is that they are going to make a run,
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: so that would be easily thwarted if they weren't able
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: to take care of the Paraguays of the world. However,
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: I will say the champions of the last tournament, Argentina
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two, they played their first game in
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: the tournament against Saudi Arabia, probably a worse team than Paraguay,
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: and they lost, and they ended up going on to
• 53:38
  Speaker 10: win the tournament. So there have been instances where really
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: good teams lose their first game to winnable opponents and
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: then they kind of figure it out after that. But
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: I think for the US they need to kind of
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: start off on the right foot here tonight.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Brad Evans told me earlier this week just how important,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: and I had underestimated it it is to have one
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: of those like superstar players. You can't win the World
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Cup without one of those guys. I've been hearing about
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: this Christian Pulisic for years. Is he one of those guys?
• 54:07
  Speaker 10: Yet I wouldn't put him in the category of like
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: maybe a top ten player in the world, but he
• 54:14
  Speaker 10: always kind of steps up his game, you know, during
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: the World Cup for the US men's national team, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: I feel like he's at the perfect moment in his
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: career to kind of break out into one of those
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: types of players, Like he's not the Liono Messi, Chris Cianno,
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: Ronaldo Killian and Babe those type of world superstars just yet.
• 54:35
  Speaker 10: But I feel like he actually gets relatively underrated across Europe.
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: I mean, he played for Chelsea, he played for Dormans
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: and big teams. Now he plays for AC Milan in Italy,
• 54:46
  Speaker 10: and I feel like he was actually a really good
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: player for a lot of those teams, but just because
• 54:52
  Speaker 10: he's American kind of gets overlooked a little bit. Just
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: I don't know why, it's just kind of how it goes.
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: But I feel like Pulisic is to the point where,
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: all right, this is kind of a make or break
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: tournament for him. If you were to kind of on
• 55:04
  Speaker 10: home soil breakout and show that he can, you know,
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: play with the big boys, so to speak, and kind
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: of jump himself into that conversation, then we can start
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: to kind of dream a little bit more as US
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: men's national team fans.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Well, your son is getting ready for his first ever
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: World Cup. He is half Argentine, he is half American,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: so he's listening right now. Who is your pick to
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: win it all in your son's first ever World Cup?
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: My pick to win it all is Argentina. I think
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: they're going to go back to back. I don't think
• 55:40
  Speaker 10: they have as good of a team in twenty twenty two,
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: but a lot of the same players, a lot of
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: the same chemistry and MESSI will go back to back
• 55:47
  Speaker 10: and finish off his career and right off into the sunset.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: All right, man, great stuff, Thank you very much. Have
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: a blast with it, enjoy it all. I know it
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: ramps up here today and we will be bugging you
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: a lot this month.
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah no, I will be bugged by more than you guys.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: It's just going to be a part of the gig
• 56:06
  Speaker 10: with everything going on in the month long festival of football.
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: But I hope I sufficed in kicking off the OA shows.
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: If they like Softy's theory, have you better be a
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: damn good guest.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: You are a damn good guest today.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: You can take that home with you all right, okay,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: all right, and joining us right here on Chuck and
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Buck in the morning again us Paraguay tonight six o'clock
• 56:29
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• 56:32
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• 56:35
  Speaker 4: a cast of thousands as we deliver for you a
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: ton of World Cup games both here on ninety three
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: point three KJRFM and also our sister station nine fifty.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: So this is where you're coming to hear all of
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the World Cup action. But we've got seven other items
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: to get to in our show.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Seahawks Mandatory Mini Camp came to an end yesterday, which
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: means that the Seahawks twenty twenty six offseason program came
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: to an end yesterday.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell was with us on the program.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: An hour ago, Mike McDonald decided to give away the
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: championship rings to the players. He and John Schneider organizationally
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: deciding now's the time. We'll have a big party tonight
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: everybody gets their Super Bowl rings, and I think there
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: was a message sent by Mike McDonald and crew about
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: giving them their rings.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell agrees.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: There is a natural logic to this this and the
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: player Gray is able to talked about this yesterday. How
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: this doing it yes last night is a natural break
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: for Okay, we're putting everything behind us now in June,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: so that when we go in July, it's for twenty
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: twenty six and it's a fresh start and it's about
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: a new team and new challenges and it's not some
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: And they keep saying this, and they're starting to parrot
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Mike macdona. It's not about repeating and doing it again,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: it's about doing it this year.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love this.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I honestly cannot recall when other teams have given their
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: players their championship rings. Maybe this has been going on
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: for years, but this is how I would do it
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: your last time together in your offseason program.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: To me, Ashley, it's a gesture of all right.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: This is it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: This is your reward for twenty twenty five. The next
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: time I see you, it's all about twenty twenty six.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about last season when we
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: reconvene on July twenty fifth.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree. I think it's great.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Put this year in the past, have its proper celebration,
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: have some time to go home, enjoy your ring show everybody,
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: and then come back in July and it's back to business.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: I did a Google of the Rams twenty twenty two.
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: When they got it, it was July twenty first, so
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: they did it. They gave them heading into training camp
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: right before training camp like this better.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah me too.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: I don't want to go into the next season thinking
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: about what we did last season, unless you were terrible
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: and you're using it as motivation. But if you are
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: the best of the best, you should not be relying
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: on that to get you through the next season.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know it feels like, oh man, four
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: or five weeks without football, Well, we're still gonna have football.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: There's still gonna be some stories broken.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon's probably gonna get a deal in the next four
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: or five weeks that we're going to have to monitor.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But we're not that far away.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: We're five weeks away, five and a half weeks away
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: from the start of training camp. It starts on July
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: twenty fifth, and this year a different training camp than
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: ever before, not just because you're returning champs, but Hard
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Knocks is going to be covering this team, so that's
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: going to be a daily conversation for us.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: Which I had actually kind of forgotten about. I mean,
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: I was when it came out. I was excited. I
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: know that there's obviously negative sides to it, but overall,
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: I'm excited to get a little bit more of an
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: insight into what's going on there and just see all
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: the personalities. And I'm excited for other people to see
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: the personalities, because this is a team of great people,
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: great personalities.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, so yes, there we go.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: We get a little break for the player's mandatory mini
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: camp coming to an end, and then training camp starts
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: on July twenty fifth. The hockey season's just about over.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Carolina Hurricanes are one win away from being Stanley Cup champions.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: Tried the one time to pass and even that one
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: wasn't solid contact, setch the cough again, two costas pair systems.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: Pressure touch the last Stars, Monday Spetch the top power
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: play goal, then a two to one Carolina lead.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: Oh man, what an energy, What an atmosphere, both in
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Las Vegas and in Charlotte throughout this entire series.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: That's uh.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Sean mcdonoughh on the call, ESPN last Night, ABC Last
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Night sketched the kaff broke a one to one time
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: in the second period, part of a stretch of four
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: consecutive Hurricane goals. They win against the Golden Knights by
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: a final score of four to two, And that was
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: the most lopsided game of the entire series. And I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: know they were up four to one, but it was
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: still just sold evenly fought throughout the entire contest.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: And if the series has taught us anything it's that
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: no lead is safe.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, look at what happened in last Saturday when
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: Carolina came back and scored four goals in the third
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: period to tie it and send it to overtime. So, yeah,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: you're on the edge of your seat this entire series.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: But it is funny that I was thinking the same thing.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: I was the least exciting game that we've had, and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: it was still an exciting game.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Awesome Jordan Stall.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know why he decided to become the best
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: hockey player in the world, but it's worked out.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got really well for the Hurricanes.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: Shut that.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he scored another goal last night, So Carolina wins
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: at four to two. Game six will be Sunday. That
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: could be it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: We could be watching the Carolina Hurricanes hoisting Lord Stanley's Cup.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: Of course, Vegas head coach John Tortorelli, who's never shy
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: of giving us a quote, says he's not checking out
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: of his room in Charlotte, his way of guaranteeing that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: the Knights will force a Game seven and be back
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: in the Southeast to try to win the Stanley Cup Championship.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: One other note from hockey Nikita Kucherov of Tampa Bay
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: to me, there's a little bit of a surprise. I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: thought this was going to mc kennon or McDavid, but
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: it's koocher Off that wins his second MVP award, edging
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: out McDavid and McKennon in a very close vote. So
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: you didn't help me at all in my green jacket quest.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: Poocherov the son of a biscuit. Yeah, but he did
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: win a trophy for himself. Very selfish, Another selfish hockey player.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: I'm just surprised that Nathan McKinnon didn't win it. I mean,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: the Avalanche were so good and he was such an
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: important part of that.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: I think he's the best player in the so good
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: NBA Finals. Game five will be tomorrow. It could end
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: tomorrow in San Antonio and the Spurs Man They're gonna
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: have a lot different lot in life. But they blew
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: a twenty nine point second half lead in Game four.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: For Jail and Bruntson allow him to operate at the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: top one o one, Trumpson gets it fires up at
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: three shop. No, God, but that's gone. It's gone.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: It's gone.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: Look one point two, Bravado, nest take the lead. Oh gyeah,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: nob he's one O seven, one o six.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Padler Maratha Garden. They can't pull later. Also ABC there
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: with the highlight.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: How do you come back from blowing a twenty nine
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: points second athlete in a finals game? And I'm not
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: talking about coming back from it tomorrow night. I mean, ever,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: I don't I'm not sure they'll ever come back from it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I mean that's probably me being a prisoner of the moment.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Spencer All is probably listening right now and can't wait
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: to give me a two cents of his opinion coming
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: up here at a thirty. But three days later after that,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's one of the biggest, if not the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: biggest choke job of my life. And now you're going
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: to try and come back and win three days later.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Good luck.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, You're definitely never going to forget it,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: that's for sure.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you can find a way to use
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: it as motivation and not as a way that of like,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: I can't believe we did that.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: How How on earth are we ever going to play
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: basketball again?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Well, Game five Saturday night, and it will be in
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: San Antonio, Texas, so at least I'll have the home
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: crowd on their side, even though I'm sure Ben Stiller,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Shalomey Jenner, Taylor.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: They'll probably all be there live.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go to the Mariners. They truly did settle
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: for a split in Baltimore. They lost seven to five
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: last night, all because of a big third inning from
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: the Orioles against Brian wu who was dominating through two
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: innings and then all of a sudden in the third.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't a bunch of loops and leaders. He
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: got crushed by a series of Orioles hitters. He ends
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: up leaving the mound and the third inning down six
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: to one, and he took it hard after the game.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm getting pretty tired of trying to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: come up with reasons or yeah, excuse as perlatives.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Just I'm tired of sucking it is.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 9: I don't you know, I said, I don't have the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: answers I'm looking for him business.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Well, the answer is, you only have one effective pitch
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: right now, and if you just lean on a fastball
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: and nobody respects anything else, they're going to hammer it.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: And that's what's happening to him right now. I think
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: he's great. I think he'll rebound from this. But he
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: had a two point twenty five ERA on April nineteenth.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: He now has a four point two eight ERA, and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: it's all trouble on the road. At home, he's been fine.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: He is getting crushed on the road for whatever reason.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, last night's third inning was the worst of his
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: entire career, his entire career.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: On the bright side of things, Dan Wilson got his wish.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: He rested his bullpen for an entire two games once
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: we fell behind. It seemed like it was the only
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: objective the last couple of nights, But the thirty six
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: and thirty four Mariners should be well.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Rested for Friday in Washington, DC.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: The bullpen should have received its vaccinations and good to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: go on Friday tonight against the Nationals. The series starts
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: at three forty five. It'll be Bryce Miller for US
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: and right hander Zach Lttel will pitch for the upstart Nationals.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Cal Raleigh was in Tacoma yesterday and hit another home run.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: It's his third home run in two reab games for
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: the Raineers. Now I'm supposed to be in Tacoma tonight
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: broadcasting the game, and I hope it's the See cow.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: If you need a better car, goesy cow, bar, goesy cow.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: If he wants your pin flow.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: If you want to say some dough with gussy col
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: and bussy cow, busy cow hem modeling, He make.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Me goesy coll Yeah, break busy cow.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Save some money, say some time, say a nicol saba diame,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: lower presses every time. Gosey cow. Dam. Oh man.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: If you didn't have enough centive before, now he's gonna
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: give you a good car deal.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: On top of it all.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: I mean that guy really can do everything.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Uh does he look ready?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe kind of looks ready to me, But that doesn't
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: mean the Mariners are prepared to activate their all world catcher,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Or then again, maybe it does. The plan was for
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: him to stand Tacoma, have the day off tonight, and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: likely go back to back games behind the plate Saturday
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: and Sunday before activation and time for the upcoming home
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: stands starting Tuesday against Baltimore. But as I've mentioned a
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: couple of times this week, I don't want to keep
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: wasting cal home runs in Tacoma.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate the idea.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: If I found out later today that he was on
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: a private jet to Washington, DC and was in the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: lineup tonight, I wouldn't hate it.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't hate it at all.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, if I would also understand
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: if they want to keep him home. I mean, they're
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: coming back there, just in DC for the weekend, and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: then they have a nice long home stand, so I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: could also see if they want to, Yeah, you know what,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: get some rest. You're doing well, We'll use you, keep
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: you warm down here in.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: Tacoma, and then send you on up north.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's what they're going to do.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if I'll get to see him tonight,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: much less see them play, but we will be on
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: the broadcast call tonight, Riley pay and myself, so check
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: it out. I'm sure Kyle will be a huge topic
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: of conversation.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: College World Series starts today. The face of the College
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: World Series, the pride and joy.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Of Oho Nebraska, Kyle Peterson was on with as yesterday
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: as he is annually, And of course, the SEC dominates
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: the field this year at the tournament and for good reason.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: They're dominating college baseball right now.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Well, when you've had a team play for the national
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: championship being the final sixteen or the last seventeen years,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: that's pretty loud. Nobody's ever had five No conference has
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: ever had five teams here until this year in the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: SEC has done that. So and one side of the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: bracket is all SEC, so are guaranteed that another team
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: in the finals. It is the most complete league in
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: college baseball. And it's not debatable, and it wasn't before this. Now,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: is there somebody who can beat them?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, North Carolina's loaded, West Virginia I think can make
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: a real run. Those are teams on the other side
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: that I think could potentially get to the finals that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: are not all US. But still, there's no league that
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: commits to the sport more. There's no set of I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: would say, you know, collective fan bases that cares about
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: the sport more and there's a reason why, there's a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: reason why they lift the trophy more than anybody else.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: They care.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Well, that's great because they're no longer college football's power,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: so they gotta have something.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Got to go somewhere.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Peterson says, Texas or Georgia is there the team to beat.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: And they actually face off against one another tomorrow night
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: at five o'clock. But the tournament gets started today at
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: eleven o'clock in Omaha, Nebraska. It'll be the Cinderella team
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: in the field of eight, Troy taking on West Virginia,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: who will lead the weekend in alcohol consumption. And finally,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: great story here in Washington featuring two twins who have
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: taken over the track and field world and they actually
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: wear the Washington Huskies purple.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Fairy instantly knew that these were not ordinary twins, but
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: magical wizards.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Yes they must be. Let me introduce you to the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: Mole sisters of Montlake. Twin sisters Amanda and Hannah Mole
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: are the two best pole vaulters in the sport right
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: now help their record setting. In fact, Amanda Mole made
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: national news last night, breaking the all time record for
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: pole vault clearing fifteen feet ten and a half inches,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: and her new record breaks her sisters now old record.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Oh and has oh by.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: The way, vaulted the Huskies into first place at the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: NCAA Track and Field Outdoor Championships. But I think there's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: a little more track and field to go, so great accomplishment. Congratulations,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: and maybe the sister comes back at another date and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: breaks her twins record.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: We shall see.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: But it does officially mark the only time in the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: history of parenthood where mom and dad are proud to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: hear that their college aged daughters are happy and excited
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: on the poll.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: It's never happened before, never before, not until now.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: All right, Coming up next on the radio program, it's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: time to check in with Spencer Hawes, and I'm going
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: to tell you something Ashley and I have been worried
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: sick about him. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: All right, we couldn't get through this week without checking
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: in with our guys, Spencer Hawes. He's been our NBA
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: insider throughout the last two postseasons and this year obviously
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: it's been a little bit of a special report with him.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Following around his very good friend, one of his best
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: friends in the world, Mitch Johnson, and Mitch Johnson's quest
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: to win an NBA championship. So here we are in
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: the NBA Finals, and yeah, I want to check in
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: on how Mitch Johnson's doing through Spencer, But first we
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: have to check in on just how Spencer's doing.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Are you holding up all right? After that twenty nine
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: point blow blown lead in game four? You okay, we're
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: worried about you.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 11: I've been better parlayed that into a bachelor party in Chicago,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 11: so we're ready for the bounce back in game five.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it like? I mean, just to kind
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: of describe it from your seat, the devastation that that game,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: you know, how it laid waste to San Antonio a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: couple of nights ago.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 9: It's you know, it was obviously tough to watch.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 11: I kind of think it's like when people talk about
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 11: going broke, they say it happens slow, and then it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 11: happens fast. It's like you could kind of see it percolating,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 11: and once once the Knicks we're kind of able to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 11: get past that fourteen fifteen, it was like the floodgates open.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 11: Then h Man that's a there's there's you know, ten
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 11: different plays that if they go the other way, it's
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 11: too Yeah, everybody's talking about the spur. They're going back.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 11: They got home quarterback, and that's what makes sports great.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: What was the reason biggest reason in your estimation for
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: the collapse?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: Shot selection? I think, especially in the fourth quarter. You know,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 11: young guys that have proven they can fight back, but
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 11: have also shown that they're not necessarily the best at
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 11: at closing teams out and put them away when they're down.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 11: And I thought the early errant threes, and it's just
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: the volume of those when every possession, if you can
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 11: pick off ten fifteen seconds, that's that's how you run
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 11: out the ball, you know, like at a football team
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 11: running the ball, that's how you run the clock out.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 11: And it was what got them there, but time and
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 11: score being able to recognize that, yes, maybe I'm open,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 11: but there's a reason I'm open. With plenty on the clock,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 11: you know, you got you gotta be a little more patient.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: I think, why couldn't Mitch, your buddy get through to
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: them all on that or you know, did he try
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: and it was just uh and he just the heat
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: of the moment they just could not listen to reason.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: You know, how how did how did Mitch act about
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: it afterwards? And and why he couldn't get his players
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: to take better shots selection.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 11: I mean, I don't have an answer for that. I think,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 11: you know, the way the game is now, there's so
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 11: many guys have a green light UH in in early
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 11: situations and even late in the game. And they have
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 11: a team full of guys that that thriving UH and
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 11: making open shots and and taking them early. And I
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 11: think it's just once a momentum started started turning around,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 11: it's it's tough to turn around that battleship.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: Can you realistically come back from something like that in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: a seven game series.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 11: Well, it's unprecedented. I think it's unprecedented for the team
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 11: with home court to come back three one, but we
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 11: saw I believe in two thousand and sixteen it.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Can be done.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 11: And you know, it's it's a tall hill to climb.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 11: But I think these guys that they're you can inexperience,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 11: I think, and on one side of it puts them
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 11: in positions like this, but on the other side, they
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 11: might not know the difference that you know, it is
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 11: such a tough task to try and shy and pull off.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Where would it start for you?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: What?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: What are the marching orders heading into game five? Because
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: they've built a lead early in all four games to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: this point, So what what is something that the Spurs
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: just have to do in game number five to avoid,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: you know, being eliminated.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 11: Well, good starts haven't been their problem. They've they've got
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 11: off to those in all four games. I think I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 11: think they got to come out and blow them out
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 11: and really put their foot down once they get get
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 11: out to a lead and put some fear in the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 11: Nicks that they found something, they've made an adjustment that
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 11: they can use going forward. And I think you win
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 11: game five at home, get a little reset, and then
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 11: it really comes down to game six in New York,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 11: where they've proven they can win and should have one twice.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: What's the character of Mitch Johnson since you know him
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: personally that leads you to believe, do not count my
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: man out.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 11: He's a winner. Uh, he's gonna win out every level
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 11: and he's a competitor and he's not you know, so
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 11: he's not gonna let his hands off the rope.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: And I think his.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 11: Team all year have shown that have shown that character
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 11: as well, and I think, you know, if they're going
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 11: to fight until the whistle, and I have a lot
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 11: of faith that they're going to come back and do it.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: Did you get near Timothy Schalomey to push him down
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: at any point during the celebration? Did you at least
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: word were you within arms reach to you know, maybe
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: give Ben Stiller and elbow anything like that?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: No, but it was it was weird.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 11: I was on it down looking for my friends and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 11: then running into a bunch of old teammates and catching up.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 11: But they I got a picture of it that I'm
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 11: sitting on that they really treated it like they like
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 11: that was it?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, like that was a championship and who knows, and
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 11: they you know, if they went in San Antonio, then
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 11: that's their opportunity to celebrate. But I thought it was
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 11: a little premature or something I tried to make a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 11: little note of.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, I would love the idea of you have a
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: picture of like you got Larry David in a headlock
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 11: Like that, just kind of the chaos of you know,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 11: it's not over yet and there's five hundred people on
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 11: the court dancing around players celebrities whoever, I mean, whatever combination.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 11: I was like, this seems a little early.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, a lot of people are saying they've never
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: seen an event like that, not just the lead of operating,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: but just the entire evening, the electricity, And I know
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: it ended very disappointing for you and the San Antonio Spurs,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: But to that, like, what was that building like from
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: beginning to end at Madison Square Garden.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was incredible.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 11: I've never felt anything like that, and it really it
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 11: wasn't even I mean, the building was one thing, but
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 11: it's like the entire day in the city, especially as
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 11: you got closer to game time, was just an energy
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 11: that you're not going to find anywhere else. And h honestly,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 11: for three quarters it was It was good at the start,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 11: and then for three quarters it was quiet. I was
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 11: I was told by a friend, you know, we prepared
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 11: to stand the entire game. I'm was sitting standing and
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 11: brillly until till that run in the fourth that the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 11: crowd really wasn't a huge factory.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: Right, All right, Well, have you had an adult beverage
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: in the last three days?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Have you slipped one of those?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm sending a coffee right now, it's get back.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: To sea level.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: What what's the next plan on the bachelor party?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Can do we get to know who you're celebrating or
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: is that a secret?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah no, it's no secret.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Shout out Schano. Back here.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 11: We are going to Wrigley tonight to see Rufus Desoul,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 11: and then tomorrow we got a little spot up sportsbook
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 11: rented out for game five.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so you're not making your way to
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: San Antonio. You're gonna do it during the Bachelor party.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: Now we're going to be watching from here, all.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: Right, man, well, have a blast, enjoy it, and who knows,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: maybe we can see history made the other way around
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: going forward here.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: In the finals.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 11: Gotta have faith, all right, man, thanks appreciate you, all right,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 11: thanks for having me.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Spencer hallis joining us right here on Chuck
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: and Buck.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: In the mornings.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling he was around his buddies, like
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: over listening.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: I just I just love.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: I was like, so, did you decide to go to
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: Chicago because you didn't want to come home before you
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: go to San Antonio. He's like, no, actually, I'm hosting
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: a bachelor party that has been on the books for
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: a long time, and I'm like, of course you are.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: Just keep that train a rolling, bringing the cocktails.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, guy's got a busy life right now.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: I know I'm tired just thinking about it.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: All right, Coming up next, we'll get you ready for
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: the Baseball Weekend. Sports Radio ninety three point three kha RFM.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: Of course, throughout the month of June our Seahawks One
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: series where we on a daily basis bring on one
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: Seahawks insider slash analyst to break down one key Seahawk
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: player for one entire interview. And that time is now
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: on this day to do that very exercise. Joining us
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: for the first time ever on our show, for the
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: first time ever on the Seahawks One Series, obviously, is
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: a kid born in Boffel, played his high school football
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: in Kirkland, Washington, became an Ivy League educated person, and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: then he ends up with the Seahawks where he wins
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Ring.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: That's a pretty good journey right there, Brian Walters. I mean,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: you are through and through Seattle, Pacific Northwest here and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: look at all of your accomplishments, and now you're a
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: part of the media Why did you take a wrong turn?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 9: I didn't see it going that way. I'm not gonna
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: lie to you. I thought you're going somewhere else, and
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: you said, where's the wrong turn? You're right, that's that's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 9: a good question, and it's a turn I didn't see
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: coming either, But you know, I just had to had
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 9: to join, as the Seahawks would say, join the dark side.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 9: And so far it's been good.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 9: I've really enjoyed it. But thanks for having me on today.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 9: This will be this will be fun. I like the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: I like what you guys are doing, just breaking down
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 9: individual players. I think it's pretty pretty, pretty cool and unique.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great, well, thank you. I appreciate that and I'm
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: excited in getting into it. But I do want to
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: ask you. You do have that Super Bowl ring? And
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: that's part of the daily news today that the Seahawks
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: got their Super Bowl rings. H. I mean they get
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: just bigger and gaudier and more expensive every year. You
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: did not win your Super Bowl ring all that long ago.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: You are a young man, for goodness sake. Can you
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: believe how much bigger and more expensive they are now
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: compared to yours?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's crazy when we got ours, we were like,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: I think at the time it was the most expensive
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 9: ring that's ever was ever made, and we were looking
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: at that thing like, oh my goodness, how can this
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 9: get any bigger. I'm not going to say better, because
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: I actually like the size of ours, because I feel
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: like I can wear it, you know, to normal events
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 9: and stuff, and it's not just getting in the way.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 9: I'm not running into door jams walking through doors with
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: it on, and I like that about it. But man,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 9: it's it's absurd. Why where they've gone to and I
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 9: feel like it's almost like a transformer. You got buttons
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 9: and things that come off of it and all that,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 9: and not just the Seahawks new ring, but.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: All the rings.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 9: I think the Rams kind of started that trend. They
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 9: had like a stadium. When they open up the ring,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 9: the stadiums inside of it, so you can do all
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 9: kinds of things. But it's pretty cool, pretty fun seeing
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: kind of where they can go, how creative they can get.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 9: And I think the Seahawks ring it looks really really clean.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: It's gonna end up being like a transformer. They'll be
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: able to wear it and then drive it home eventually.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: I think that's where it's going. Brian Walters is with
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: us for our Seahawks one series. We always allow our
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: analysts to pick the player he wants to break down.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: Uh So who are we going to break down today
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: with Brian Walters?
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  Speaker 9: Well, this was an easy one for me, just going
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 9: with Well, I played wide receiver. I was a punt returner.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 9: I was a kick returner. So when when they say, hey,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 9: you know, let's pick a player, I'm going to go
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: right to the man himself or Shichihit a guy that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 9: came in mid season and just and really was a
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: huge spark for this for the Seattle team. So I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 9: want to I'll break him down a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit kind of what he.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 9: What I saw from him last year, and just what
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 9: to expect this year, because I just I love watching
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 9: him play. I love what he brings to this team,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 9: and I think one thing about him is is he
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 9: can bring it. What I appreciate about him is he's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 9: not just doing it in one, uh one aspect of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 9: the game. You know, he's not just doing it as
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 9: a wide receiver. He's doing it multiple weights, He's doing
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 9: it in special teams. He's changing the game in many ways.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 9: And also He's not just catching, he's getting runs, he's
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 9: getting reverses, he's out of the backfield getting handoffs at
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: some point. And so there's a lot to his game
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 9: that I love. So it'll be an easy breakdown.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did not stack the statistics, especially from an
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: offensive standpoint a year ago, but he authored some of
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: the biggest, most game changing, season changing plays in his
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: short time in a Seahawks uniform a year ago. I'll
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: just ask you to get us going. Would the Seahawks
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: have won the Super Bowl without Rashid Shaheed last year?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad you asked that because I've made this
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 9: point kind of all off season and even going into
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl, and I'd say, it's hard to say
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 9: that one person gets you to where you're at on
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 9: any team. You know, it's hard to say one team
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 9: or one person really got him to the Super Bowl
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 9: one on the Super Bowl, whatever it is. But when
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 9: you look at the timing of Rashid Shied and the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 9: plays he made when you absolutely needed it, you, I mean,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 9: there's there's nobody that stands out more than Rashid because
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: i mean without that punt return against the Rams, you know,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 9: do the Seahawks beat the Rams, Do they win the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 9: NFC West? Do they do they get home field advantage
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 9: and make the playoffs?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: And you can go to so many different plays throughout
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 9: the season, and you know, one people forget about. I mean,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 9: you're six to six against the Atlanta Falcons at halftime,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 9: you know, you go down, You're in Atlanta and you're
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 9: having a flug fast down there. Kind of a little snoozer, honestly,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: And where's that spark come from? Well, he returns the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 9: opening kickoff for a touchdown and then it was over
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 9: after that. You know, it's like the little sparks that
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 9: he presented again. Forty nine ers game playoffs, the divisional
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 9: round just start. Not really a clutch I wouldn't say
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 9: it's a clutch play because it's the very first play
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 9: of the game, but it's kind of like that spark,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 9: like okay, like here we are and you didn't even
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 9: look back after Rashishi he'd returned that for a touchdown.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 9: So there's just so many little plays. I shouldn't say
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 9: little play, LE should say big plays. But that stand
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 9: out to me about Rashid and how he got this
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 9: team to wear the rat but again, you already mentioned it.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: I mentioned it. The biggest one was against the Rams
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 9: in the regular season, the second game at home. You're down,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: what thirty to twelve something something like that, if I
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 9: might recall thirty to twelve or thirty to fourteen, Yeah, yep,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 9: And I think it was thirty to fourteen. You right,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 9: because the end up being thirty to twenty two. After
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 9: this they made the two point conversion, but and you
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 9: needed it. And I was in the press box. I
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 9: was in the press box looking down this game like,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 9: oh man, I think the Seahawks lost this. And then
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 9: I turned to another my colleague, Michael Bumpus, you know,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 9: another analyst, and I said, hey, the only way the
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 9: Seahawks get back into this game is if Sean McVay
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 9: actually kicks it to Rashija Heat and he scored a
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: touchdown right here, like that's it. And right before that punt,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: I said that to him, that that's it. This is
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 9: the only way the Seahawks can win that game is
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 9: if Sean McVay chooses to punt the ball to Rashiet
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 9: your Heat. And fair enough, there it was. They punted
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 9: to him, they score. No time came up the clock
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: and then you know, the rest is history. In that game,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: they made a big run and didn't look back after that.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 9: So look, did Rashid he win on the Super Bowl? Well,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 9: you can make an argument for it, that's for sure.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Maea. Yeah.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: Former see Brian Walters, our guest here on our Seahawks
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: one Series one analyst breaking down one key Seahawk player
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: for one entire interview, and Brian has chosen Rashid Shaheed
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: to break down with us here today. And so there
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: was a question, I mean, would he price himself out
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: of Seattle this offseason? I mean fifteen catches one hundred
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: and eighty eight yards over nine games, even with special teams.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: You do wonder whether or not that warrants a seventeen
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: million dollars per year contract. Brian, Why is he going
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: to end up being worth seventeen million dollars a year
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: for this football team?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 9: Well, I think you have to kind of look at
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 9: the circumstances he was in. I think the reason one, yes,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 9: his production was down when he came to Seattle one,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 9: you know, just kind of get into the swing of things.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 9: But you also have guys like Cooper Cup and jsn
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 9: you're you're playing alongside. When you look at what he
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 9: did when he was with the Saints earlier in that season,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 9: I mean it drastically changed when he came with Seattle.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 9: How many targets he's getting and just more of the
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 9: opportunities to get. I mean, you go to the Saints
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: and I'm just gonna look at it. I'm gonna read it.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 9: He played what nine games with the Saints, and I
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: mean you got nine targets, five targets, six targets five five, six,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: nine twelve not I mean, he would get so many targets.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 9: He was their go to guy because it was him
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 9: and Chris lave in the Saints. So it's kind of
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 9: like him JSN. But you had a Cooper Cup, you had,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 9: you had you know, you had guys like that that
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 9: can make plays as well. And also the scheme, you know,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 9: Kubiak scheme. What I appreciated about Pubiac last year was
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 9: he wanted to run the ball and he committed to that.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 9: He committed that a lot, and so that's gonna take
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 9: that's gonna take those targets. But again with Rashida, I
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 9: don't think it's about the volume at all. But it's
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 9: about when he does get his opportunity, he does get
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 9: his chance to make an impact. Can you get those
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 9: explosive plays from him that that pretty much that can
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 9: turn games around, that can change games for you. And
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 9: I think that's where you're in just seventeen million dollars,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 9: that's where you really see the game changing effect that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 9: he has. And then and then now you have an
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 9: off season with him, You have a whole off season,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 9: so everyone's learning this new playbook at the same time.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 9: And what I'm most fascinated going to this season is
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 9: is he the number two guy or super Cup the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 9: number two guy? Is if Tory Harton comes back, is
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 9: he going to be the number two guy? Because remember
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 9: what Tory Harton did before they got Rashiki Heat, Remember
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 9: how he was on that role too. So you have
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 9: four wide receivers now that all can make big time
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 9: plays and have all proved it at some point or
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 9: another in the NFL, and I think that's pretty remarkable.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 9: But Rashid, I just see him expanding his role in
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 9: this offense. There's a few things that I can get
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 9: into here in a bit that I think he needs
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 9: to improve on if he gonna gonna take that next
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 9: step with the Seattle offense. And but I think he's
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 9: just a perfect compliment to JSN really to open up
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 9: the field.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: Well, let's get into those What are those things that
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: you see that could make Rashiksha Heat that much more
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: impactful for the Seahawks this year.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be one catching in traffic in
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 9: the quick game, you know, sometimes these slants, these little
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 9: short passes. Yeah, you see the explosives. They want to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 9: take shots downash Rashishi Heat. But if he's going to
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 9: really maximize those explosive plays like that, like that the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 9: deep shots, he's got to show that he can go
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 9: down and go in the middle, catch a little slant,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: catch a little five yard in route and make it
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 9: and make it smooth. You know, we see JFN do
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 9: that all the time, Cooper cuts the master and just
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 9: kind of being in the middle field catching it in traffic.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 9: And I don't think we see that from Rashishi Heat now.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 9: And he got the opportunity with the Seahawks not a lot,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 9: but when he has, I haven't seen him come down
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 9: with those yet. So I want to see that really
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 9: really come to the his game just kind of that
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 9: all around receiver win a slant route Sam Donald right
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 9: on the money boom, you know, ten to fifteen yard
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 9: game take from a slant route, little short route like that.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 9: So that would be one of the things I'll be
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 9: really watching for him this year if he's going to
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 9: be that full time number two guy. And then one
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 9: more thing. I think that stood out to me. It's
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: pretty nitpicky, honestly, but you know, if for breaking down
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 9: a player you get than negatives, I think I think
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 9: at some point when you're some of these deep balls,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: now he's he's fantastic, right. You know, he a lot
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 9: of times has two three steps on guys, but sometimes
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 9: he doesn't have the two or three steps, which is fine, right.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 9: Dvs are fast too, and they're right with him. I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 9: think his strength to the ball can be a little
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: bit better. I think sometimes you see him kind of
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 9: throw his hands up early looking for that pass interference
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 9: before the balls even hit the ground, and I'd like
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 9: to see him just play through that, play through it,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 9: go up, try to high point it as a matter
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 9: if you get pass refeit or not, but you're trying
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 9: to make a play like it's all about the ball.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 9: And I think a few times last season I saw
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 9: him just kind of almost give up on a deep
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 9: ball because he's trying to sell the pass interference. And
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 9: I think that would be something I'd want to see
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 9: him just just just be strong up to the ball,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 9: let the rest figure out the pass interference, don't throw
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 9: your hands up wanting to call before the ball didn't
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 9: hit the ground. So I'd say those two things could
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 9: really elevate him to the next level, along with all
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 9: the other things that he brings. That is really he's
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 9: just so talented back there, and we haven't even really
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 9: got to the special teams part of it. Yeah, but
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 9: it would be as a wide receiver to be that
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 9: number two guy. That's what I'd like to see, Yeah.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: And I do want to get to special teams here
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: in a moment with the Brian Walters our Seahawks one
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: Series one analyst Brian Walters breaking down one key player,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: Rashid Shaheed for one entire interview. But before we get
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: special teams, how do you think they might use him
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: in the running game? Brian Florey didn't use a lot
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: of receiver endo rounds, but that is something San Francisco
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: was kind of known for when Deebo Samuel was there,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: And obviously we're looking at two completely different body types
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: Shaheed versus Deebo Samuel. But how effective do you think
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: they might use him as a running back run in
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: that jet sweep and getting him around the edge.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're not going to see a lot
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 9: of change as far as how they used them last year.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 9: Reverses when you see four almost four reverses maybe five
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 9: reverses the Rashiji heat last season, kind of trying to
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 9: give a spark and none bigger than I think it
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 9: was some of that reverse. It was it the rams,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 9: it was the the I'm trying to think it is
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 9: that same game we returned, the same game he returned
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 9: to kick in the second game regular season.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 9: They also had a point where the offense was a
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 9: little bit stale, kind of later in the game and
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 9: you're like, and it was thirty to twenty two, remember
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 9: this now, and they kind of threw a reverse to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 9: Rashid and he took it for about thirty yards twenty
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 9: five thirty yards and it sparked everything from there. It
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 9: was like, Okay, this game's kind of it's going to
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks after his return. So it was Rashet again
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 9: with back to back with two big plays. That really
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 9: was the spark. So I don't if if I'm an
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 9: offensive coordinator and I'm going into this season like like
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 9: Brian Fleury is, and you're kind of getting your your
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 9: game plan going, and how am I going to use
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 9: Rashiki heat, Well, the film doesn't lie on what his
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 9: strengths are, and and so it's it's reverses, it is
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 9: the fly sweeps, it is you saw him out of
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 9: the backfield and eye formation. There was a full back
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 9: in front of him early early on when they got
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 9: him and they handed it off off the left back
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 9: or a little little outside zone the pitch to him
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 9: and he got ten yards. So he's so versatile in
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 9: that way that I don't see him changing it, changing
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 9: it up at all. Maybe a few more screams, you know,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 9: maybe some wide receiver screens. I don't think we saw
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 9: a lot of that to him. But that's it. I
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: don't think it's going to be anything crazy. And you
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 9: can't do that all the time, we don you know,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 9: you can't just sit there and try to run reverse
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 9: after reverse the Rashiki heat. But you know, when you
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 9: need to shock that defense and surprise that defense boom.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 9: You have a guy like RASHIDII who can do that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 9: and get the corner.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, anything to get him in space. It feels like
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: to be the objective. And let's talk about that return ability.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: Is there a better guy right now in the National
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: Football League? Would you trade him for anybody kick a
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: punt returner in the entire league right now?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 9: I don't think so, And I think the reason being
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 9: is all to start with the basics. Just he is
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 9: so smooth catching the ball like that's that's a rarity,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 9: it really is. You have guys back there a lot,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 9: even some of the best returners you've seen in the league,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 9: who you look, they look a little bit uncomfortable trying
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 9: to catch a punt and they're moving last second, they're
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 9: not really getting their feet underneath it, and they're catching
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 9: it in awkward positions. And and that's as a coach,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 9: a special teams coach, as any coach, that's kind of
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 9: put some doubt in your mind if you have a
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 9: guy back there not judging the punts very well. But
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 9: Rashid is flawless. It, I mean, he really is the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 9: way he sets himself up, He's always catching the ball
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 9: on the same spot and you just trust that he's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 9: always going to catch the ball. And that's the number
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 9: one thing. That's always what I was told when I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 9: was prom during Pete Carroll used to tell me before
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 9: I got off, every almost every single punt returns out there, Hey,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 9: get the ball back to our offense. Get the ball
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 9: back to our offense.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 9: And so it's like, all right, yes, I guess that
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 9: is my job technically, get the ball to Marshaun Lynch
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 9: and Russ and let them do their things. So that's very,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 9: very just basic. Rashida is probably the best in the
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 9: league at that the way he does it, and then
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 9: you look at what he does with the explosiveness, and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 9: what I love about Rashida is he doesn't try to
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 9: be someone that he's not. And when I say that,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 9: I mean he's not back there dancing around, going side
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 9: to side, waiting for something to develop, trying to duke
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 9: and reversing feel. He's not doing that. That's not his game.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 9: His game is being decisive. His game is trusting the
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: return and using his speed to find the gashes in
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 9: the return. That's exactly what he has done, and that's
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 9: how he's when he has three return touchdowns last year,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 9: one punt, two kickoff returns, maybe even more if I'm
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 9: not mistaken. But but that's when you watch all those returns,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 9: they're all the same. It's just I'm catching it and
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 9: I'm going and I'm gonna. I'm putting my foot in
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  Speaker 5: Like my day yesterday was a complete failure is really
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  Speaker 5: all I'm thinking.
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  Speaker 4: it needs to come back into our lives at this point.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, think about the things that we are struggling
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  Speaker 4: with as a baseball team, especially our pitching staff.
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  Speaker 3: Right now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we've got a very good pitching staff. We
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  Speaker 4: have very good starting pitching. We have very good relief pitching.
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  Speaker 4: For all the people that have been crying about how
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  Speaker 4: bad our relief is, well, you're not paying attention. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the statistics suggest that we have one of the best
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  Speaker 4: point this week we were number one, and we're hovering
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  Speaker 4: around number one in the American League in terms of
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  Speaker 4: bullpen era. And obviously we're well known for our starting pitching.
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  Speaker 4: We have so much starting pitching that we had to
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  Speaker 4: invent this piggyback thing. So it's good, and yet we
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  Speaker 4: still are trying to figure out how to piece this
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  Speaker 4: for our pitching staff, apparently we reached a crisis this
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  Speaker 4: week with our bullpen that everybody was tired and nobody
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  Speaker 4: was available, and for two straight days it seems like
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're just asking too much of them.
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  Speaker 4: I frankly don't know how you could have painted yourself
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  Speaker 4: League in is fewest pitches thrown by our bullpen in
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  Speaker 4: got to this lowly state of being on a road
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  Speaker 4: we barely got through one game in this series. The
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  Speaker 4: second this game two was where we're asking people to
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  Speaker 4: threw over forty pitches, the Villa's closing in the tenth inning,
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  Speaker 4: for goodness sake. So we only got through one game
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  Speaker 4: without a crisis in our bullpen. I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it is a great question. And I would
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  Speaker 6: You don't want extra innings a lot, but you would
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  Speaker 6: And what were we gonna do. We'd have Davilla go
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  Speaker 6: out for and he'd end up throwing forty pitches if
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  Speaker 1: If he went to an eleven, it had been to Villa.
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  Speaker 1: If you'd gone to a twelfth, then what it might
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding because he has pitched before
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  Speaker 5: League games, so he'd be he's the new Leo Rivas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with the game on the line, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: your backup catcher to try to win in the thirteenth inning.
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  Speaker 1: That's apparently what we were on a collision course for having.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't quite understand how you've gotten into that shape.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're in that shape, we've even used the
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  Speaker 4: piggyback successfully for three trips through the rotation where we
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  Speaker 4: hardly even touched our bullpen and people are so angry
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  Speaker 4: some way. So if that's what we're dealing, and we
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  Speaker 4: need to be that careful with all of our bullpen arms,
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  Speaker 4: because we have five really good guys and a couple
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  Speaker 4: I like Davila, I like Hoppy, I like what I've
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  Speaker 4: seen out of them. We don't have a bad bullpen.
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  Speaker 4: We have a really good bullpen, two.
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  Speaker 5: Very good outings in a row for Davila, and so, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, I don't know how you got to that state,
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  Speaker 4: these two turns, since you've committed to the two turns
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  Speaker 4: with a six man rotation. If this messes you up
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  Speaker 4: We need that every fifth day one starter goes five
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  Speaker 4: innings and the other starter goes four innings. So that
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  Speaker 4: apparently we have to save our bullpen once every five games,
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  Speaker 4: otherwise we can't get.
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  Speaker 1: Through a series.
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  Speaker 5: Frustrating, I want my piggyback, piggyback, piggyback.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's another reason to have it. We got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of struggling starters right now, and George Kirby are
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  Speaker 1: not pitching well consistently right now.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a third thing. When George Kirby does pitch well,
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  Speaker 4: it is usually for exactly five innings, and then when
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  Speaker 4: he goes out for the sixth he gets in trouble
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  Speaker 4: a matter of fact, I saw this stat somebody else
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  Speaker 4: came up with it. It wasn't me, but we have
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  Speaker 4: the fourth worst RARA in Major League Baseball in the
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  Speaker 4: sixth inning. Now, in that odd yeah, a five point
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  Speaker 4: seven to three era. One of the best bullpens in
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  Speaker 4: the sport, one of the best starting rotations in the sport.
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  Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, in the sixth inning, we have
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  Speaker 4: And it's not because of the bullpen. It's because of
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  Speaker 4: our starters. It's because George Kirby for whatever reason, falls
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  Speaker 4: apart in the sixth Logan Gilbert for whatever reason, when
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  Speaker 4: he has a problem, it's usually in the sixth I
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  Speaker 4: don't know why this is happening, but it is happening,
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  Speaker 4: And it's so crazy, is it not? When we were
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  Speaker 4: doing the piggyback and everybody's like, how on earth could
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  Speaker 4: you take Bryce Miller out after just five innings when
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  Speaker 4: he's got a one header and then he's finally allowed
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  Speaker 1: Yep, there's a one inning difference.
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  Speaker 4: If that's all we're getting is one extra inning out
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  Speaker 1: Then why wouldn't we go to the piggyback? Why wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: we have him go five and Castillo go four, or
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  Speaker 1: Kirby go five and wu go four until they can
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  Speaker 1: get their crap together? Why wouldn't we do that if
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  Speaker 1: it means we can save the entire bullpen once every
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  Speaker 1: five days so that we don't end up in the
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  Speaker 6: I don't know why you don't at least try it,
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  Speaker 6: because look at what it has done to Castillo. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: he went from being first pitcher to one of our
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  Speaker 6: most sturdy.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that would have happened anyway, maybe he was on
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  Speaker 4: the course, or maybe that extra incentive of like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: they're really asking me to prove myself here, and I
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  Speaker 4: can't let Bryce down right now. We're piggybacked right now,
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  Speaker 4: we're like a team in all of this.
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  Speaker 1: I got to do my part.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever happened, it sharpened Castile. Maybe you could do the
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  Speaker 4: same thing for Kirby and Wu. And I know that
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  Speaker 4: Kirby will fight it. He'll probably punch Pete Woodworth right
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  Speaker 4: in the bridge of his nose. But when he can
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  Speaker 4: own when he's struggling to get through the sixth might
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  Speaker 4: be a solution. George, we just need five out of
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  Speaker 4: you tonight. And then whether it's Woo or whether it's Castillo,
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  Speaker 4: it better not be Miller. They can finish the four
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  Speaker 4: I know how uncomfortable it made it. I know people
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  Speaker 4: are sick of the word, all of that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 4: But the merits have outshined the negative aspects of the
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  Speaker 4: piggyback experiment, and I frankly won it back. I went
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I wish it had worked. Well, it might
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  Speaker 1: maybe he didn't drink enough. We're committed to this, but
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  Speaker 1: it might work. Maybe the next time, when we're done
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  Speaker 1: the six man rotation, which I don't want to do anymore. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: then maybe we do go back to the piggyback because
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  Speaker 1: it kind of feels like we need to do it.
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  Speaker 4: We can't manage the bullpen. Dan can't manage the bullpen
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  Speaker 4: to keep everybody available and healthy to get us through games.
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  Speaker 6: If nothing else, what benefit is the six man rotation
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  Speaker 5: None would be, So there you go.
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  Speaker 4: The idea about the six man rotation was that all
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  Speaker 4: of our starters could go an extra inning, and yet
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