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How Women Leaders Can Trust Their Intuition (and Stop Forcing It) with Kehla G · Loud & Lifted

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Welcome to Loud and Lifted, the podcast for women
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in leadership who want to grow their careers
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without shrinking themselves in the process.
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Today's episode is for the woman who keeps thinking,
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it's my messaging. I need to say it better. I
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need to offer more. And you're feeling scattered,
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overstimulated, and like you're spinning. My
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guest is Kayla G. And she's known for helping
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high performing women get precise about what
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actually matters so they can stop doing the most
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and too much and just start getting results.
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We talk about why It's My Messaging can be a
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trap, how to create coherence when your brain
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feels like you have 37 tabs open, and a super
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practical way to think about intuition. Not as
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woo -woo, but as a signal once you remove the
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noise. Let's get into it. Welcome to Loud and
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Lifted. Kayla, thank you so much for being here.
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How do you feel being on the other end of the
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microphone for a podcast today? I'm so excited
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because obviously I've done so many interviews
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and I had you on my channel, but it's so fine
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to be in the chair and be like, what are you
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going to ask me? Where is this going to go? And
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it kind of takes the pressure off and I love
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it. Nice. Oh, don't worry, the pressure is going
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to be on because we have a lot of questions for
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you. So you have a very different business and
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approach to business. So first of all, before
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we get into it, let's talk about who are you
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and what do you do and how do you help women?
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So I am a human design, Gene Keys, AI business
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coach for spiritual women who specifically are
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growing their business online and they really
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want to understand how to leverage social media
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courses, emails and create an entire ecosystem
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that works for them based on their energetic.
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So there's zero bro marketing like. pretty much
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anti cookie cutter approach altogether. And so
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I've been in this business now for seven years,
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and I've been podcasting for seven years and
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I've been an entrepreneur for 10 years. And so
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I just I really love the work that I do. And
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obviously, being here and having this conversation
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with you, I know there's a lot of corporate women
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listening to this, but there's going to be some
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golden fucking nuggets for you today. So I'm
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really looking forward to this chat. Yes, I love
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it and you have such a different approach because
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it's the spiritual piece of it, right? And we
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get so hung up on our checklist and professional
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development and that's all great and there's
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a place for that. But for a lot of people, they
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need to see that other angle to it. So when you
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first start working with someone, where do you
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start? Do we start with the orientation or how
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do we get moving when you start working with
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a new person? Yeah, I find that when women come
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to work with me, what typically happens is they're
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aware that they have a blind spot, but they don't
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know what the blind spot is. They're going to
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say things like, oh, I have this offer and I've
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been showing up on social media and my messaging
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and I'm doing all these things. I'm doing all
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the things. I'm podcasting, like they're just
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pulling their hair out. And what's really interesting
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is that what I noticed, so you use the word orientation
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and this is like a very non -sexy word that has
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been brought into my vocabulary in the last several
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months as it's popped up for me. is I notice
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the biggest blind spot that women have is that
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they don't realize where they're standing when
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they're looking at the problems of their business.
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So when something's not working, they'll oversimplify
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it down to, it's my messaging. If I get my messaging
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right, then everything else will work. And it's
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like, if that's not. how it works. So I help
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women rather than being so honed in on like one
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or two things and making everything wrong, or
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if things are quiet, automatically assuming it's
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not working, step back and look at where they're
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standing, the orientation, you are stepping back
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and you're looking at, okay, sure, here's the
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messaging, but then there's your offer. But when
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somebody comes into your ecosystem of they got
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your lead magnet and they're on your email list,
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how are you nurturing them? Do you have six different
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offers because you haven't been able to sell
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the first offer. So you chuffed it up to try
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and sell it better. And now your audience is
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confused. It doesn't matter how good your messaging
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is. Like if that's just one example of like the
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through line of you want to get people into your
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offer, but then look at how all of these things
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are actually. incoherent and so when you pull
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back and step out it helps women stop taking
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the unworkability of their business as a personal
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attack on themselves and thinking oh my god i'm
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not working hard enough and it's my identity
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and i have to do all the subconscious work it
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actually gets to be a lot more simple and less
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personal and it just like regulates the fuck
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out of our nervous systems when we approach business
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this way so that's kind of a you know kit and
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caboodle of what i do with women from a a farsighted
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perspective. I love that. And I feel like you're
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talking to me because I have totally done that.
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In the last year of doing my own business, you
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know, you kind of start off, you think you're
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here and then you're not really getting traction.
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So you go in another direction and then you add
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more shit and all of a sudden you're like, I
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am just throwing spaghetti at the wall and I
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don't even think anything is sticking, but I
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just keep throwing more. So it's easy to get
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overwhelmed on that and you know how it happens.
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So then it's just like... Okay, let's fix it.
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Let's approach it. You know, when you talk about
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that, obviously you're talking about it from
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a business perspective, but I couldn't help think,
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how does that impact? We talk a lot about personal
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brand, right? Like in our image, how do we, how
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does that impact that? Like just women struggle
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with that piece too of, you know, I feel like
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sometimes we try to be all things to all people.
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And, you know, we try, we try to do all this
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professional development to be better. And we're
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just kind of like spinning versus just like.
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Stopping and focusing. So how do you see that
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play into to women personally? Yeah, I think
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this is so huge because what you said specifically
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actually is something doesn't work so that we
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think something's missing so then we keep adding
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more shit and a hundred percent of the time a
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hundred percent of the time When I work with
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women we end up taking things away. I'm like
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you don't need six freebies You actually don't
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need three different offers. You don't need to
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be on five different platforms, like we subtract,
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I take things away, which is crazy because if
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you actually look at the coaching industry as
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an example, it's rooted in you are not enough,
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therefore you need this thing and here's this
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next program and this new identity and you have
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to work on this identity. So coming back to the
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identity piece, what I notice is that when there's
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a lack of coherence, I use this word a lot as
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well, is like coherence is when It's like a living,
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breathing, like things are working in harmony
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and things are connected in the way that they're
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meant to be. They're in the correct sequence,
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therefore they work. When there's a lack of coherence,
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and again, it comes back to women thinking it's
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not working and suddenly becomes personal. It's
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like, well, I must not be the woman who can hold
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it. I must be living more into the future version
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of me who has the money and the clients and so
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on. So then what happens is women will start,
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even though they think they're doing identity
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work and they're starting from within, they start
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building their business from the outside and
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they start borrowing language like, oh, I need
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to be more activated. I'm going to start talking
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like this or they start thinking, oh, look how
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that person made that $33 offer. I'm going to
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make a version of this and that's who I am now.
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And so there's a reaching in a borrowing from
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the outside and we think that's identity work
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because it's still rooted in pressure, need to
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get people to buy these things, I'm going to
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do X, Y, and Z. It's still rooted in momentum.
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I'm only successful if I'm consistently making
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sales. So everything is based on this reactionary
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experience of running a business where it's constantly
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looking for the instant external gratification.
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And that's not identity work. That is like...
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the effort to try and build infrastructure, but
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you're holding up walls that aren't yours, which
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is something that I'd mentioned to you earlier.
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Identity work is when you find things actually
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get a lot more quiet, something that I've been
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doing the last couple of months where I'm not
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announcing every single thing that I'm working
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on. I'm not trying to build hype to do a big
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launch to get people into a program. It's very
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much focused on, okay, How can I cultivate the
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coherence of my business? And if I have this
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offer, if I'm posting in this way, does it actually
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connect to the next process or the next journey
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of where my clients are going? How are my clients
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actually experiencing this specific funnel leading
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into this program? Like it's looking at the coherence
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of what it is that I'm building and it actually
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doesn't require any external noise or validation.
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But it's like a part of your ego dies because
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you realize that you're building in silence and
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there's no external, hey, you're doing great.
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Keep going. You have to trust yourself. Right.
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So that's where deep identity work comes in.
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And I hope that that was a really big explanation.
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But I think it's really important because there's
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so many layers where we can see ourselves operating
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from. No, that's so interesting. I love the word
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coherence. I can't say that I've ever used that,
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and I might start using it. So how many of these
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women that you work with come from corporate
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originally and are now starting entrepreneurs?
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And how fucked up are they because they're coming
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from a corporate background? So funny. I laugh
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from familiarity. It's like not a laugh of judgment.
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It is, uh -huh, I get that. I would say that
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100 % of the women that I work with will literally
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say themselves, like, I've been a terrible employee.
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I cannot be employable. Like, I just this doesn't
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fulfill me. Yes, I was good at being a teacher.
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Yes, I was good at being a VP. Yes, I was good
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at doing X, Y and Z. And it's like, I can't do
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that anymore. Like, there's something pulling
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me. There's a purpose inside of me. I can't fully
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articulate it. This is what I want to do. I don't
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know what it looks like. But I feel the fire
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like that. That's literally the women that I
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work with. And that's also a version of me as
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well. And so when you say fucked up from corporate,
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what I do notice is, this is the biggest thing,
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women who leave corporate to start a business
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are so caught up in the structure and the ecosystem
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that they may have not noticed within the corporate
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space and they associate the amount of effort
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and hard work that they're doing should produce
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results within a specific timeline. Yes. Right?
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So I'm going to get more specific with this,
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believe it or not. So in corporate, we show up,
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we do our job, we get a salary. There's a very
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clear description of when you do X, Y happens.
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Here's a promotion, here's a conversation, here's
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constantly being witnessed. This is me assuming
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that we're in person at this point and now we're
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working remotely. So you're in person, people
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see you every day, you have conversations. There's
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constant external feedback from the environment.
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But when what you don't realize is that there's
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an entire ecosystem within a corporation that
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is structured that when you do x you get y when
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you work you get money when you go into a business
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that ecosystem and structure literally does not
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exist so we have to build it that's why i talked
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about coherence because you have to build something
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coherent that's how businesses create corporations
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because they have coherence within their company
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it's not perfect obviously but it's stable because
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they can pay their employees and hire people.
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So you are your own employee to your business.
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So if there's no business structure, how are
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you going to get paid? Like that's really what
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it comes down to. So that's why I've done so
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much personal deconditioning from corporate and
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even over the last couple of years, where it's
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not about how much action I'm taking, it's about
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the action that I'm taking and whether or not
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it makes sense for what it is that I'm building.
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And the crazy thing is that you cannot outwork
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timing. That is the most painful truth of them
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all. You literally cannot outwork timing and
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I think that is the hardest pill to swallow as
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an entrepreneur and that's probably the biggest
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thing that women have to deal with when they
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leave corporate because it's like You know every
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six months you get a raise and after two years
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you get this and it's going to retirement and
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here's your 401k and it's like very dialed in
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but it's not like that business at least not
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in the beginning now. Oh my gosh, you're so right
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in that you can't outwork timing. And that's
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probably one of my biggest challenges in this
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last year. I mean, 20 plus years in a corporate
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structure and environment and consistency and
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a couple months into doing my own thing. And
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I'm like, why is this not taking off? Why am
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I not doing this? Why don't I have more business?
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And a solopreneur said to me, she's like, you
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just need to be. patient, like it's going to
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come, but it doesn't come in three months. She's
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like, you're doing the work, you're planting
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the seeds, like your garden takes time to grow.
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I was like, I'm not patient. So I'm still learning
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the timing piece of it, but you know, it's, I
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love the D conditioning, D programming. I love
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that because that has been core. When I went
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from a really big corporate organization to a
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much smaller, it was, it felt entrepreneurial,
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but there's still a structure and people and
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team and consistency to now this level. On my
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own, as we were joking at the beginning, you
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know, my own IT person, own whatever, it really
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does change you. And you do have to decondition
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from those structures and the confines that a
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lot of us grew up in and became used to. So let's
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switch gears a little bit. Let's talk about intuition.
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Tell me how we can best, hardest utilize our
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intuition in business. Yes, I love this question
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because obviously I feel like up until now I've
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been like, here's the structure and the masculinity
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of all of this, but then I can also swing so
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hard into the femininity of intuition. I think
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the biggest thing when people say, well, what
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is your intuition? How does this work? It really
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is prioritizing removing noise so that you can
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feel and hear the signal from your body. And
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what I mean by that is what I find is when there's
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too much noise happening, let's say for example,
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let's use a house as an example. So there's a
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lot of clutter. They've got things in the kitchen
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and there's chaos here and there. And it's like,
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you're not actually going to see the surface
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area of the space because it's covered. So if
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I were to ask you, how much surface area do you
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have in your house? You'd be like, I don't know,
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but there's a lot of shit everywhere. So when
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you look at clearing the noise, clearing the
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shit, then you can say, oh, here's the surface
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area of this counter. Here's the surface area
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of the couch. Here's the surface area of the
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dresser. And suddenly you can see the spaciousness
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and you can feel energetically how you can. walk
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into a room and your shoulders feel like they
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drop and you can just feel oh my god this smells
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so good or look how the light is coming through
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the window right now and you know the bed is
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made and things feel peaceful and calm so your
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intuition as much as you can try so hard to listen
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to your intuition be like what does my intuition
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have to say but if your environment physically
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or even mentally like you have too much on your
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mind and maybe you need a calendar to take things
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out of your head. If you really want to connect
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your intuition you have to create the space for
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it and that is so important because people say
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I want to connect to my intuition and immediately
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go to that but then it's like you got to create
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that again, literally it's the same conversation
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as earlier creating that ecosystem of your business
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around your business. You need to create that
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spaciousness around yourself for your intuition
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so that you can hear it and connect to it. And
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I think that this has been something that I've
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worked on the last couple of months. And like,
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if you're like, what does it mean? You know,
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obviously, we use the house metaphor. But if
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you're in the online space, for example, or even
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in corporate, it's like, how can you remove unnecessary
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noise that isn't actually helpful? Like I went
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on Instagram, I followed everyone on Instagram
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in the last couple of months. I also unsubscribed
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a lot from my email list. And I'm not listening
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to any other podcasts right now. I removed Instagram
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from my phone. I only go on my iPad. And it's
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like very intentional, like I'm posting these
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stories and doing X, Y and Z. So it's really
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simplifying. What input is coming in because
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the less input you have the more space you have
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the quieter It is the more you can hear and feel
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that little voice inside of you So that's kind
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of the first Process of how I would like create
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the structure for connecting to your intuition
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because some people are probably like I don't
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know if I'm connecting to my intuition But if
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they're all of a sudden they're like, oh my god,
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I have so much noise Yeah, get rid of the noise
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and then see what happens Oh, that's so true.
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And especially with our phones, right? Like we
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can't just sit. And I catch myself doing it.
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I could be like at a stoplight that I know it's
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going to be really long. Instead of just sitting
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there listening to the radio, doing whatever,
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I pick up my phone. I'm seeing if anybody texts.
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It's like, I'm sitting here for 20 seconds. Why
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can I not just sit? And I did that recently actually
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on the way back from yoga. So I already felt
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like I was like in a good spot. I'm like… I didn't
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turn on any music. My drive was like five minutes,
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but it was five minutes of complete silence,
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which at first was a little uncomfortable. even
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though it's by myself. But I try to do that more
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and more because there is, there's so much noise
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and we just never stop. We can't not be on our
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phones or have music playing or the TV in the
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background. And, and you're right. It's just
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so much constantly at us that there's, there's
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no time for that silence or quiet just to actually
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think. And I guess that's probably why people
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always would say about like good ideas coming
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in the shower or on a run, because you're like
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just. not focused on that. You're focusing on
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running or taking a shower. So I love the intuition
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piece and that makes sense. Are there any other
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tips like that to be able to like tie into your
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intuition more? Yeah, I think that when it comes
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to There's so many different ways you can connect
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with it, whether it's meditation or journaling
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or even just walking and like you said, not listening
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to music and seeing what comes up. I think there's
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even been times where in the last couple of weeks,
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I was in the kitchen, I was cooking and I wasn't
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listening to music. I was in the kitchen for
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like two hours in silence cooking. When the door
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is open, that's when things can drop in. I'll
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give you an example. I was sharing with you before
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we hit record that I went pretty fucking deep
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into feng shui in the last two months. I'm really
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excited about this. one of the the last couple
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weeks what we've had to do is you know lay the
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bagua map on our house figure out the directions
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get really clear on like what's supportive in
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each room that kind of thing and one of the other
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things we had to do was to do a clearing in the
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house so it was like i bought you know some smudge
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and some palo santo and i did like a salt cure
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in the corner like we're going full voodoo here
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and last night i spent an hour doing a Cleansing
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and a clearing of the house and I put on some
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like hurts binaural beats and I was before this
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I had set intention and I was like My intention
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for the home and just for my life this year is
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just to create and cultivate and hold more harmony.
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That's something that it just, hmm, harmony in
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relationships, harmony with money, harmony with
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business, that feels really fucking good. But
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there was still something there that wasn't fully
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landing. And I was like, okay, I'm just going
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to take this and run with this because this is
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what happens. Your intuition doesn't necessarily
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tell you. everything right away all at once.
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Sometimes it comes in pieces. So I'm like, okay,
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I'm gonna go, I'm gonna clear and cleanse the
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house and I'm going around with my smudge and
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like figure eights all over the place. And all
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of a sudden, one sentence drops in. Let it be
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easy. And I thought, oh shit, that's the sentence.
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It's not cultivating, create harmony, because
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then that is doing something. And I'm a doer.
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I'm like an over -functioning, high -achiever,
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freaky type A person. I will do shit until the
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cows come home. And when this dropped in and
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it was just, I'm in the middle of smudging, listening
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to my binaural beats, and it was like, let it
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be easy. And I actually got so emotional because
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I thought... Wow, I can see where I'd been trying
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to control things and clean this and do that
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and organize this. And then I thought, well,
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what do I do if I let it be easy? And I'm like,
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holy fuck, I have to take my hands off the steering
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wheel. So it was just like three little words.
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And that came straight from my intuition and
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I wasn't doing anything crazy. I'm not telling
20:02
everyone you have to go clear your house and
20:04
cleanse and whatever, but I am saying that you
20:07
got to trust your intuition in layers. It's not
20:09
always going to be a straight shot, but it's
20:11
quiet and it will not be loud. That's the trick.
20:16
Well, that's a great point, right? If someone
20:18
is trying to declutter their brain and they feel
20:20
like they're tapping into her intuition, how
20:22
do they know they're doing it? I don't want to
20:25
say right because there's no right way. But to
20:26
your point, it's kind of that quiet. Like how
20:28
do they just kind of extract that once they feel
20:30
like they're doing that clearing out of their
20:32
minds? Yeah, I think coming back to the coherence
20:36
thing, like when those three words dropped in
20:38
my head, let it be easy. It was like sliding,
20:41
like the satisfaction of when you've done like
20:43
a thousand piece puzzle and you go to sliding
20:45
that last piece and it just fucking clicks and
20:47
you're like zero explanation, zero proving energy.
20:52
This is the truth. I don't care what anyone says
20:56
or what anyone thinks like it's just pure and
20:59
you can trust it but if it's something that comes
21:02
to you and you're like Hmm, I don't know. What
21:05
about this? What about that? And then you take
21:06
it and you talk about it with three different
21:07
people and they gave you four different perspectives
21:09
and you're like Well, what if I did this? No,
21:11
I'm not gonna do that anymore. I need to go do
21:12
this So notice that there's like a restlessness
21:15
there and it's it's it does take a level of trust
21:18
of like, okay this clicked for me, what if I
21:21
just left it and didn't touch it and I didn't
21:23
need to go and tinker and fuck around and and
21:25
put it here and put it there. This is what came
21:28
through for me. What is it going to look like
21:30
now if I just let it be and let it show up for
21:32
me rather than than going and bringing in external
21:35
noise because you don't trust yourself. So that's
21:37
the thing is like I look for that very specific
21:40
feeling of this feels like truth and I literally
21:43
don't care what anyone else has to say about
21:45
it. I love that. That's great. So we're at the
21:48
beginning of the year still. And, you know, you
21:50
mentioned that's your intention. How often are
21:52
you setting intentions? Do you have a word of
21:54
the year? Like, how do you sort of set those
21:57
tones, I guess, for your year? Yeah, I let things
22:00
unfurl, but I do set points that I like to come
22:05
back to. And every December, I always record
22:08
a podcast episode about, you know, choosing your
22:10
gene keys for the year and your word of the year.
22:13
And my word for this year is precision. And I
22:17
love this word because I mean, again, it's not
22:19
a sexy word. It kind of goes in with orientation
22:21
and coherence and like the words that people
22:23
don't typically use. But precision for me means
22:26
if I'm going to be precise, then I can't entertain
22:28
noise. I have to get to the point, right? And
22:32
with precision, other mantras that came through,
22:35
again, I guess, let it be easy is now one, but
22:37
do less, say less. Like the things that I'm telling
22:41
myself and holding the standards to are just
22:43
smaller, but very intentional. And so that's
22:48
my word of the year. My gene key of the year
22:50
is a 60 second gene key. I know we didn't talk
22:52
about gene keys today, but the gift of that gene
22:55
key is precision. So it really is about, you
22:58
know, what is it going to take to be precise?
23:00
What do you need to take away to keep that simplicity?
23:03
And I just find that Having those little anchors
23:06
can be really helpful, whether it's a word, whether
23:09
it's a gene key, whether it's something in astrology
23:12
or whatever resonates with you in affirmation
23:14
or if you have a very specific goal. It's whatever
23:17
is going to anchor for you. When you create it
23:20
and it feels coherent and you have that click
23:22
and you don't feel like you have to justify or
23:24
explain to anyone, that's when you know that
23:26
that's your truth. That's how I love to choose.
23:30
Usually I choose a word. and then I'll reflect
23:32
on it in the December. I'm like, wow, so here's
23:34
what I thought was going to happen, and then
23:36
here's what actually happened, and it's a whole
23:38
story, but it's really fun. Right. But I love
23:40
that, but there's a theme. And what's so crazy
23:42
is you're building a business, you're growing,
23:44
but your theme is about simplifying and stop
23:47
trying to do so much and being over the top.
23:49
And I love that. And I actually saw somebody
23:52
else on LinkedIn post that too, and with very
23:54
similar rationalization. It's like, we get so
23:57
overstimulated with our goals and to -do list
24:00
and increasing revenue and just all the things
24:02
we want to achieve that it just like, ah, it's
24:05
like total chaos. So I love the fact of like
24:07
just dialing it back, which I unfortunately went
24:10
the other direction with my word this year, so
24:12
I went with Ignite. Again, year two of a business
24:17
of trying to get things moving. I wanted everything
24:19
to come to fruition really this year and to ignite,
24:23
so I'm kind of rethinking that, but it's all
24:25
right. I'm going to go with it. It's the fire
24:27
horse, so it all goes together. Yeah. No, I think
24:30
go with it. Because sometimes, like, OK, last
24:33
year, my word in 2025 was ascend. This is what
24:36
came to me. And I was like, where the fuck? I
24:37
was actually in charge of the key and I was playing
24:39
with the gene keys, like doing my thing. And
24:41
I was like, ascend? What the hell? And I thought
24:43
this. Oh, I don't know if I like this because
24:45
it felt very like pedestal like ascend. And I
24:49
thought, no, I'm just going to sit with this.
24:50
And I stuck with it the entire year. And by the
24:54
end of the year, what happened was I realized
24:56
I did have to rise above my shit. And there's
24:59
so much that I had to let go. It was a snake
25:01
year, right? Everything was shutting. I changed
25:02
my software, my platforms. I let go of offers.
25:05
I'm like, oh, that checks out. So it surprised
25:08
me. So stick. If you like Ignite, stick with
25:11
it and then see what happens. That's the fun
25:13
part. That'll be fun. Yeah. I always try to do
25:16
a word of the year and some years I'm like, well,
25:17
that didn't quite work out. It's fine. So you
25:21
mentioned Gene Keys and I think to this audience,
25:23
this is probably a topic they don't know a lot
25:25
about. So tell us what that is and how you utilize
25:28
it. Yeah, I'll share like gene keys and human
25:31
design like an overlay of this. So obviously
25:33
I feel like everyone's heard of astrology. That's
25:35
like the big thing that people are most familiar
25:37
with. And so these systems, human design and
25:41
gene keys are two different systems that they
25:42
have crossover. So talk about human design first.
25:46
When you get your birth information, so your
25:48
date, time and location, you can literally go
25:50
to Google and type in like human design chart
25:52
and there'll be different platforms where you
25:54
can put your information in. I like to use genetic
25:56
matrix. So you put your birth information in
25:59
and what you're going to see on the screen will
26:00
be very confusing. I'm not going to lie. but
26:02
you'll probably be very curious about it. You're
26:04
gonna see a body graph, okay, and there's gonna
26:06
be shapes, and there's gonna be channels connecting
26:09
the shapes, there's gonna be a lot of numbers,
26:10
you'll see information that'll say, you're a
26:13
generator, you're a one -three, you're an emotional
26:15
authority, there's gonna be information about
26:17
what human design is. Human design is an energetic
26:21
blueprint on how you're designed to show up and
26:24
operate in your life or, for example, in your
26:26
business. And so I use this as a tool with my
26:29
clients so that when we go to build, their business.
26:32
It's very specific to their energetic gifts and
26:35
capacities. So it's an integrity and coherent
26:38
with their being. Right. Now the gene keys is
26:43
there's a component, there's the astrology component
26:46
from human design that pulls over into the gene
26:48
keys. And then the gene keys also has a system
26:50
with human design. called the I Ching, and it
26:53
comes from the Chinese divination text. And there's
26:55
64 streams of consciousness, as we call it, 64
26:59
numbers that represent very specific energetic
27:03
experiences that we have as people. And so your
27:06
gene keys, there's like... three different sequences
27:09
that show your energetic experience of how you
27:13
move through life. So human design gives you
27:15
more of the, here's my strategy and how I make
27:17
decisions. And Gene Keys is more of a contemplative,
27:21
meditative experience of, oh my gosh, I can see
27:23
how this specific energetic expression shows
27:26
up in this area of life. And so it helps you
27:29
see patterns. It helps you see triggers. It helps
27:32
you see shadows. And then you can integrate this.
27:35
So I love to use this as a tool as well with
27:38
entrepreneurs in business. So obviously, we talked
27:40
a lot about structure today, but I use a lot
27:43
of energetics within the structure. And that
27:46
creates the integrity for people to be aligned
27:48
with themselves and how they move through their
27:50
life and their business. I love that. And, you
27:53
know, it's funny, for those of us who grew up
27:55
in a professional corporate world, you take 800
27:57
assessments, right, from like Strengthfinder
28:00
and Predictive Index and Disc and all that stuff.
28:04
And that information's good to kind of help to
28:07
know how you operate. But this is a different
28:09
perspective and level, and I got to find out
28:11
what time I'm born so I can do this. I asked
28:13
my mom the other week. One thing I want to say,
28:16
what you just said is so important. I actually
28:18
recorded a podcast episode. I think I'm going
28:20
to find it and we can put it in the show notes
28:22
for you because there's probably a lot of corporate
28:23
women who are like, yeah, I know disc. I know
28:25
the enneagram. I know this. You do all these
28:27
tests. Human design and genki's are not a personality
28:30
test. It's like your energetic expression since
28:33
the moment you were born. That's the difference.
28:36
However, what I find is really, really interesting
28:39
is that Those personality tests, they're based
28:42
on your behavior and your motivation, so they
28:44
can change. I used to be an ENFJ, and now I'm
28:47
an INFJ. Like, why did that happen? I don't know
28:49
why that happened. I mean, I can speculate. But
28:51
with human design, it doesn't change, and your
28:53
gene keys don't change. Yes, there's transits,
28:55
like you hear in astrology, oh, we're in Pisces
28:57
season, or we're in Aries season. There are those
29:00
influences, but your core remains the same. So
29:03
I just wanted to share that because it's actually
29:05
really cool to leverage. You can leverage human
29:07
design, especially in corporate, which is really
29:10
awesome. So anyways, that'll be like an additional
29:12
nugget. That goes back to just understanding
29:14
who you are and how you operate. And we all have
29:16
our strengths and leaning into that versus trying
29:19
to be someone or act totally different than you
29:22
are. So I think that's where people get hung
29:23
up on like, I've seen people be upset about like,
29:26
you know, their disc assessments, like, no, it's
29:28
okay. Hey, like it's who you are, it's your strengths.
29:30
Like let's lean into that. This isn't like, oh,
29:33
you have to be this to be in what position or
29:35
whatever it is. So I love stuff that gives you
29:38
insight on who you are and how you operate. And
29:40
then just using that to, I don't know, be better
29:43
essentially, or at least understand what the
29:45
hell you're thinking about or why you're thinking.
29:47
So is there anything else that as you've worked
29:50
with these women through the last 7 -10 years
29:52
that you see women get tripped on that if you
29:55
think they pay a little bit more attention to,
29:57
they would be able to make an impact and be better?
30:01
Yes. I think this is actually kind of like a
30:04
loaded thing to share. I, and I've been there
30:06
like so many times where I felt like a victim
30:08
and I was fucking pissed. Like, why is this taking
30:11
so long? I've spent this money. I'm holding debt.
30:14
I want to pay this off. I want to move forward.
30:16
I'm doing everything. And I get really righteous
30:18
about how things are going. And I think you can
30:20
relate to this in corporate too. It's like, I
30:22
broke my ass off. Where's the promotion? Very
30:23
similar. And I think that when, especially as
30:28
entrepreneurs or even in corporate too, when
30:31
we put that pressure on, I need this to work
30:34
and Once this works, then I will relieve X, Y
30:38
and Z like retroactively. The hard truth to swallow
30:42
is that there is an avoidance of responsibility
30:45
that's not being looked at. So when I've looked
30:48
at, let's say financially, if I had certain goals
30:50
in my business where I'm like, I want to make
30:52
X a month, I want to do X, Y and Z because then
30:54
I can do A, B and C and that doesn't happen.
30:57
If I actually look at A, B and C, it's like,
30:59
well, Kayla, how can you better manage your finances?
31:01
Like budget sheet this, learn about this conversation
31:04
here. how can you actually look at the things
31:08
that you can control, instead of thinking once
31:10
you achieve X, Y, and Z, that's going to neutralize
31:14
A, B, and C. That's not how it works. So there's
31:16
always the irony is that there's actually always
31:19
more that we can control. But sometimes we avoid
31:23
looking at the thing because we just want the
31:25
easy way out. And that's like, literally such
31:28
a hard pill to swallow. I say that with compassion.
31:30
I do it. I've done it. It's very human. But I
31:33
think that that's something is like, where am
31:35
I not looking that I'm avoiding that would actually
31:37
make a difference now rather than waiting for
31:39
this other thing to show up where I can't control
31:41
the timing. Oh, that's so true. And it's funny
31:43
you mentioned corporate. I think of that about
31:45
women that I know who are stuck in corporate
31:48
and they say they want to get out. They kind
31:50
of sort of have a plan. But the things that they
31:53
really need to do to be able to get out, they
31:55
won't address. So it's like, do you really want
31:58
out? Like, you know, the way it's not easy, not
32:01
claiming that it's easy, but you just get stuck
32:03
in and just kind of in that rut of well, I'm
32:06
doing this, I'm just going to keep going until
32:07
maybe something dramatic changes. Maybe it's
32:09
not their decision to leave. So it's just interesting
32:12
to understand that. Well, this is awesome. This
32:16
has been super insightful. And we'll put everything
32:19
from links in the show notes. But where's the
32:21
quickest way to find out more about you and connect
32:24
with you? You can find me on Instagram at Kayla
32:27
G Mike podcast built for the edge. And we had
32:31
a beautiful conversation on their bed seat, which
32:33
I'm really excited to be sharing with everyone.
32:35
I'm going to add, I can't remember the name of
32:37
the episode off the top of my head, but the one
32:39
that compares human design against, you know,
32:41
the strength finders desk like awesome put that
32:43
as an additional resource in the show notes.
32:46
And I want to share another resource. This is
32:48
called your business reoriented. So whether you're
32:51
an entrepreneur or you're in corporate, this
32:53
is there's these are five select podcast episodes
32:56
from my channel that are really going to compliment
32:58
the conversation we had today where what it looks
33:00
like to orient yourself to create coherence,
33:03
leveraging your human design and gene keys. So
33:05
it's not just here's what Kayla did to do X,
33:08
Y and Z and you do it too. It's very much How
33:10
does this show up for you? Where are you standing?
33:13
What needs to shift so that you can move forward
33:17
and regulate your nervous system and build what
33:19
it is that you want to build? So that will also
33:21
be in the show notes as a gift for everyone.
33:24
Awesome. Kayla, thank you so much for being here.
33:27
Thank you, everyone. Kayla is the kind of guest
33:29
that makes you want to close your laptop, take
33:31
a breath and immediately delete three things
33:33
off your to do list in the best way. If you want
33:37
to connect with Kayla, I'm linking all of her
33:39
info in the show notes. And if human design and
33:41
G keys made you curious, start there. Don't overthink
33:44
it. That's literally the point. And if you're
33:47
a listener who's building confidence, presence,
33:49
and a stronger leadership identity in real time,
33:52
make sure you're following Loud and Lifted on
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33:56
been feeling a little scattered lately. We all
33:58
need the do less, say less reminder sometimes.
34:02
Until next time, stay loud and stay lifted.