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Dems Hoped World Cup Would Be A Disaster So They Could Blame Trump · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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Speaker 2: and Jim Garrity of National Review.
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Speaker 1: Free Martini's coming up.
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Speaker 3: So glad you're with us for the Friday edition of
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Speaker 3: The Three Martini Lunch. We once again made it to
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Speaker 3: the end of a bizarre and winding week. But we
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Speaker 3: are here and we have a lot more to talk
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Speaker 3: about today. And Jim, just like a couple of weeks
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Speaker 3: ago and you did the Friday episode with half your
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Speaker 3: mind out the door, I think that's kind of where
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Speaker 3: I am today as I get ready to head out.
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Speaker 3: But yesterday it was a big day at the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 3: They handed down several different decisions, couple on immigration, one
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Speaker 3: on round up weed killer. But yesterday was also a
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Speaker 3: big day for the Second Amendment. USA today with the
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Speaker 3: story the Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a Hawaii
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Speaker 3: law that required gun owners to get permission before bringing
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Speaker 3: a firearm into a store or other private property that's
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Speaker 3: opened to the public. According to USA, this delivers a
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Speaker 3: setback for the gun control movement. They say a six
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Speaker 3: three ruling from an ideologically divided court came four years
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Speaker 3: after it dramatically expanded the Second Amendment right to bear
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Speaker 3: arms outside the home. I think we already had that right.
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Speaker 3: Hawaii and four other Democratic led states California, Maryland, New York,
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Speaker 3: and New Jersey, responded to that twenty twenty two decision
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Speaker 3: that's the Bruin case by limiting where in public guns
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Speaker 3: can be carried. As the nation remains divided over how
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Speaker 3: to prevent mass shootings and other gun violence. Sam Alito,
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Speaker 3: writing for the majority, said, Hawaiislam poses severe restrictions quote
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Speaker 3: unquote on the daily activities of gun owners, who may
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Speaker 3: be barred from entering many places people routinely visit, such
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Speaker 3: as gas stations, convenience stores, restaurants, barber shops, and laundromats.
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Speaker 1: Quote.
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Speaker 3: This regime hobbles what the Second Amendment protects the right
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Speaker 3: of Americans to carry arms for self defense as they
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Speaker 3: go about their daily lives. Unquote, we hold that the
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Speaker 3: law is unconstitutional, of course, Katanji Brown Jackson, missing the
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Speaker 3: point in her descent Today's decision makes one thing clear.
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Speaker 3: She says, the court's objective is protecting guns, not consistently
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Speaker 3: preserving any principle of law. So Jim, this case became
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Speaker 3: famous because in part of the decision in Hawaii upholding
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Speaker 3: this law, they said it was a validated by the
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Speaker 3: spirit of aloha. And as Sam Alito, you know, he's
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Speaker 3: a softy, but he was not convinced that the Second
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Speaker 3: Amendment should be trumped by the spirit of aloha.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, as much as the spirit
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Speaker 2: of aloha may be wonderful and we all like getting
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Speaker 2: those necklaces of flowers the lays when we get there.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't overrule the Constitution. I you know, and I
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Speaker 1: just there.
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Speaker 2: If there's a bitter aftertaste to this good martini, it's
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Speaker 2: that one from the Heller decision when the Supreme Court says, yes,
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Speaker 2: there is an individual right to own a firearm. It's
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Speaker 2: been in their constitution. It's been in the Constitution the
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Speaker 2: whole time. There's not inventing it. That this is all
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Speaker 2: you know, it's always been there from the beginning. You
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Speaker 2: could kind of tell that a whole bunch of states
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Speaker 2: are like, Okay, Supreme Court said this, how can we
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Speaker 2: work around this, How can we restrict gun ownership as
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Speaker 2: much as possible. We're going to do this, and maybe
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Speaker 2: this is every bit as violating the Constitution as our
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Speaker 2: old laws were. But now it'll take a few years
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Speaker 2: for this to work through the court process to get
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Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court will tell
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Speaker 2: us we can't do that. And that's pretty much what
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Speaker 2: happened here. I think if you look at the ail
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Speaker 2: Or decision, you can't say, Okay, you have a right
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Speaker 2: to own a firearm, but only in your house and
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Speaker 2: maybe from the driving to the parking lot of the
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Speaker 2: barber shop. But you can't take it into the barber
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Speaker 2: shop or the bar or the restaurant or the grocery
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Speaker 2: store or any of those places where if God forbid,
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Speaker 2: Like Greg, has there ever been a gun related crime
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Speaker 2: in a convenience store, Yes, yeah, like lots of So
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Speaker 2: if you're there and the guy behind the counter sticks
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Speaker 2: a gun in the face of the of the cashier,
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Speaker 2: you might want to have a gun at that point
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Speaker 2: to protect yourself if God forbid, this guy decides to
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Speaker 2: turn his gun and start shooting at you.
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Speaker 1: But you know, it's like, oh no, no, we can't
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Speaker 1: have that.
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Speaker 2: We can't have armed citizens because you know, they might
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Speaker 2: prevent a crime or something like that. And so it's
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Speaker 2: just one of those things where but my fear is
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Speaker 2: that Hawaii will say, okay, instead of invoking the spirit
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Speaker 2: of Aloha, will invoke the spirit of the volcano gods
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Speaker 2: or some other you know, cuckoo for Coco Puff's excuse,
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Speaker 2: try to enact another similar gun restriction, or well, you
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Speaker 2: can carry guns but only on alternating Tuesdays when the
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Speaker 2: moon is rising and Sagittarius or some other crazy set
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Speaker 2: of restrictions, and then you know, this will have to
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Speaker 2: go through the court system again. I would really like
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court to say, no, you can't do this,
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Speaker 2: and you can't come up with some slightly different worded
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Speaker 2: version and contend that this is a completely different version
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Speaker 2: and that you can start this whole process once again.
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Speaker 2: So good job, Supreme Court. A little bit, you know,
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Speaker 2: wary about what's going to happen next from some of
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Speaker 2: these deep blue states.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're already saying how they're gonna keep trying to
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Speaker 3: do what they just did, just in a slightly different way.
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Speaker 1: And they're not a.
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Speaker 2: Little thing like the Supreme Court and a declaration that's
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Speaker 2: unconstitutional get in their way.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, And this will feed into the laps,
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Speaker 3: you know. Oh, the Supreme Court is corrupt. Ever since
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Speaker 3: the Conservatives have a plausible majority, they've tried to demonize
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Speaker 3: and delegitimize the Supreme Court. You know, Hawaii was kind
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Speaker 3: of humiliated yesterday. Virginia Democrats, you're next. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if you'll actually be next, but you'll be humiliated at
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Speaker 3: some point relatively soon, assuming of a makeup of this
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Speaker 3: talked about a really dumb idea on how to keep
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Speaker 3: Social Security solvent for longer than the next six years.
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Speaker 3: tax cap, and we explained how that would be a
6:52
Speaker 3: massive tax increase that would not be good for our
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Speaker 3: economy long term. But the dumb economic ideas coming out
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Speaker 3: of the US, then they're not slowing down. This time
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Speaker 3: it's Chris Murphy of Connecticut. We always talk about him
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Speaker 3: in the highest regard, but this time not really. This
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Speaker 3: time he's just you know, up in the anpty because
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Speaker 3: you know, for the longest time it was fifteen dollars
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Speaker 3: minimum wage. We got to have fifteen and now it's
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Speaker 3: twenty five dollars an hour. That Chris Murphy wants. The
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Speaker 3: Living Wage for All Act would phase in the increase
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Speaker 3: based on company size and eliminate the tipped minimum wage,
7:27
Speaker 3: underscoring an aggressive push by progressives to address rising costs,
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Speaker 3: as the federal rate has remained at seven to twenty
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Speaker 3: five since two thousand and nine. This is again from
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Speaker 3: USA Today. Murphy says, quote, there's no reason that somebody
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Speaker 3: should go to work full time in this country and
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Speaker 3: not be able to pay their bills. It's time that
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Speaker 3: everybody who works makes a dignified wage. Jim, We've talked
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Speaker 3: about this a million times. You raise the wage floor,
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Speaker 3: everything gets more expensive for the employer, and what really
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Speaker 3: ends up happening is people lose their jobs altogether.
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Speaker 2: So I went to check each state's minimum wage because
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Speaker 2: I was curious about how much higher than the minimum
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Speaker 2: wage this would be for a bunch of states, and
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Speaker 2: I figured California, we have the highest according to my
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Speaker 2: research that says it's sixteen dollars and ninety cents per hour,
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Speaker 2: and I thought that was the highest, but it actually
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Speaker 2: turns out that Chris Murphy's home state of Connecticut has
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Speaker 2: the highest, at sixteen dollars and ninety four cents an hour. Unsurprisingly,
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Speaker 2: the Blue states that traditionally have the highest cost of
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Speaker 2: living in the country for a wide variety of reasons,
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Speaker 2: but a big chunk of it is that also they
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Speaker 2: have one of the highest tax burdens in the country,
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Speaker 2: which makes everything you sell even more expensive. They're always concluding, huh,
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Speaker 2: we have a really high state, really high cost of living.
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Speaker 2: We can fix that by raising the minimum wage. No,
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Speaker 2: when you make labor more expensive, you make everything that
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Speaker 2: gets sold more expensive, the same way that when you
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Speaker 2: raise gas taxes, you make everything that needs to be
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Speaker 2: transported in your state more expensive. And oh, by the way,
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Speaker 2: you know, considering California, considering how many goods get imported
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Speaker 2: through the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach and Oakland,
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Speaker 2: everything we buy and the rest of the country ends
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Speaker 2: up getting more expensive because we have gas taxes in
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Speaker 2: these states. So the interesting thing is, I know, we
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Speaker 2: used to say, sarcastically, why not twenty five dollars an hour.
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Speaker 2: Why not fifty dollars an hour. Well, all of our sarcastic,
9:14
Speaker 2: hyperbolic exaggeration proposals are now becoming standard issue Democratic proposal
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Speaker 2: that we.
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Speaker 1: Have inadvertently raised the bar.
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Speaker 2: By proposing an idea that we thought was ridiculous. Now
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Speaker 2: this is obviously unlikely to ever become law, but it
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Speaker 2: wanteds further. Yeah, I think Chris Murphy really wants to
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Speaker 2: either run for president or be Senate majority of leader.
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Speaker 2: He wants a promotion, he wants to stand out up
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Speaker 2: until for most of his career he's been a standard
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Speaker 2: issue Democratic senator from the northeast, nothing particularly unusual about him.
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Speaker 2: So now he's got like a come up of the
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Speaker 2: biggest furthest ones. You know, every time they do this,
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Speaker 2: you know, every fast food group is like, wow, we'd
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Speaker 2: better look into automation. When you go to CVS or
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Speaker 2: Walgreens and suddenly there's self check out, why do you
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Speaker 2: think that happened? When you go to McDonald's and there
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Speaker 2: are kiosk? Why do you think that happened? Because the
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Speaker 2: labor got more expensive and by the way, obviously being
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Speaker 2: capitalists here, look, we want people to make higher wages.
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Speaker 2: We want people to make more money, but you generally
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Speaker 2: make more money if you have more skills, if you
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Speaker 2: know how to do something. Here's a shocker, but everybody
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Speaker 2: in life starts life not knowing anything. We're babies and
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Speaker 2: we cry we don't know, and then gradually you pick
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Speaker 2: up the thing. But generally, when you enter the workforce,
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Speaker 2: whether it's as a teenager, you know, but apparently teenagers
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Speaker 2: don't do summer jobs anymore. You know nothing that irks me,
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Speaker 2: or you're fresh out of college, or it's a summer
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Speaker 2: in between colleges. You generally don't have a lot of skills,
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Speaker 2: the one thing you can offer in contrast to all
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Speaker 2: those other people out there who are looking for jobs
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Speaker 2: that you can very often afford to work cheap, particularly
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Speaker 2: if you're a teenager. I get when they say, ah,
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Speaker 2: you know, nobody can raise a family on the minimum wage. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: because by the time you're isn't a family. You're not
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Speaker 2: supposed to be baking the minimum wage. Your goal in
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Speaker 2: life is to make more than the minimum wage, and
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Speaker 2: the minimum wage is supposed to be there to make
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Speaker 2: it easier for people to enter the workforce and get
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Speaker 2: those first couple of experiences and yeah, you know probably
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Speaker 2: you know, flipping burgers, putting fries, putting together the egg McMuffin.
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Speaker 2: And that might not be what you wanted to do
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Speaker 2: with your life, but very rarely is that what people
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Speaker 2: do with their entire lives. What you're doing with that
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Speaker 2: is you're demonstrating you can show up on time, you
11:24
Speaker 2: can follow instructions, you can take care of customers. Howard
11:28
Speaker 2: Schultz who said that, like you want to see a
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Speaker 2: short period of time, put them in the morning shift
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Speaker 2: at Starbucks when the line's got thirty people out the door,
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11:46
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11:49
Speaker 2: noise and distractions and all that kind of stuff like
11:52
Speaker 2: this is what your first job is supposed to do.
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Speaker 2: And every time Democratic lawmakers talk about raising the minimum wage,
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Speaker 2: they're making it harder for people to get that first job,
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Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. And not only are you dealing
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Speaker 3: with kiosks at McDonald's. You're dealing with like thirty five
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Speaker 3: forty dollars totals to feed a family of four, when yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's not cheap that long ago, it's less than twenty bucks,
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Speaker 3: but it's where we are. It's not only that there's
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Speaker 3: inflation going on as well, but a big part of
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Speaker 3: that is the minimum wage. And so yeah, like you said,
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to go to a manager,
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Speaker 3: managers don't make minimum wage at these restaurants, that could
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Speaker 3: be a decent career, but yeah, the goal is to
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Speaker 3: progress from there. And so the Democrats don't get that.
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Speaker 3: They kind of use it as a way to make
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Speaker 3: sure that the unions and other people get much higher
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of problems that we deal with as
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Speaker 3: a country culturally, internationally, obviously, domestically, economy, all sorts of
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Speaker 3: things that are genuine challenges. And then there are things
14:08
Speaker 3: that are not at all problems, but people turn them
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Speaker 3: into problems. Political reporting. Here in an article by Adam
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Speaker 3: Wrenn that Democrats, many of them secretly wanted the World
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Speaker 3: Cup to end up as a debacle so they could
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Speaker 3: cast Donald Trump as the villain for things going poorly.
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Speaker 3: But the World Cup is not going poorly, which I
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Speaker 3: think most Americans are very happy about. If they're not
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Speaker 3: enjoying the games directly, perhaps attending or at least watching,
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Speaker 3: they're thrilled for the business that's coming into their communities
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Speaker 3: with all these people coming to the games, or they're
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Speaker 3: just enjoying the people from other countries and seeing how
14:41
Speaker 3: much they're enjoying the United States. But now the Democrats,
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Speaker 3: they can't do that. They're grudgingly reconsidering the fact that
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Speaker 3: things are going well. Here they quote Rob Flaherty, a
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Speaker 3: digital Democratic strategist, who says, I think that there was
14:54
Speaker 3: a little bit of like liberal wish casting that this
14:57
Speaker 3: would maybe be a disaster to sort of stick it
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Speaker 3: to Trump. It hasn't been that yet, also says here
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Speaker 3: before the tournament, attitudes about the World Cup are polarizing,
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Speaker 3: like so much else, along partisan lines, with Democrats confronting
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Speaker 3: FIFA and the Trump administration over high ticket prices, shortfalls
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Speaker 3: in public funding, and the government's posture to foreign visitors.
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Speaker 3: But as a tournament approached local officials and areas hosting matches,
15:19
Speaker 3: like Zoron Mumdani and New Jersey Governor Mikey Cheryl, they
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Speaker 3: turned from critics to cheerleaders. Now a prominent Congressional Democrat
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Speaker 3: is going even farther, praising the handling of tournament logistics.
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Speaker 3: That's Brendan Boyle, a Democrat from the Philadelphia area. He says,
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Speaker 3: that's been a remarkable success, and he's going to do
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Speaker 3: everything he can to get the World Cup back here
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Speaker 3: as soon as possible. Yet at the end, he says,
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Speaker 3: let me be clear, my comments are irrespective of the
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Speaker 3: Trump administration. Frankly, as immigration policies for the last year
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Speaker 3: and a half did scare some people off from coming
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Speaker 3: to the United States, the credit goes to the local
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Speaker 3: host committees and Jim, I don't know how much Donald
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Speaker 3: Trump paid close attention to this. I'm sure DHS has
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Speaker 3: been consultant on stadium security and other things, all sorts
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Speaker 3: of other security measures related to these events around the country.
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Speaker 3: But first of all, the hope that it goes poorly
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Speaker 3: so Trump will take the blame. And then you can't
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Speaker 3: even just be happy that it's going well.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you're the Democrats, this is
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Speaker 2: the last headline you'd want. Although it goes, it fits
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Speaker 2: in very well with the polling data showing Democrats on
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Speaker 2: average are much less likely to say they're proud of
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Speaker 2: their country. The Democrats are saying, you know, it's not
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Speaker 2: just the joy read types who are like, oh, nobody
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Speaker 2: can really celebrate the fourth of July or Independence Day
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Speaker 2: because the country is so bad blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 2: First of all, I was thinking about this, people like, ah,
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Speaker 2: you know, we got this. It's got the kind of
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Speaker 2: like hosting the Olympics. Hosting the World Cup is actually
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Speaker 2: probably significantly harder than the Olympics. So the Olympics are
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Speaker 2: almost always in one city. I know, the Winter Olympics
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Speaker 2: were in two Italian cities way back in ninety six
16:49
Speaker 2: when the Atlanta hosted it sailing as an Olympic event.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've noticed, but there is
16:54
Speaker 2: not an ocean anywhere near Atlanta. So one of my
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Speaker 2: favorite cities, Savannah, Georgia, was an Olympics city, hosting just
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Speaker 2: the sailing event. And they actually still have the Olympic
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Speaker 2: cauldron that they lit out there and stuff. But like
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Speaker 2: you think about the World Cup, We're doing this in
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Speaker 2: eleven stadiums, Like this is basically eleven of the biggest
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Speaker 2: cities in the country are hosting these events. And I
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Speaker 2: have thought, oh, okay, well, if you're in if your
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Speaker 2: team you're playing in this stadium and you're playing your
17:22
Speaker 2: first three matches there, no they you know, the US
17:24
Speaker 2: was playing in Los Angeles and then Seattle, and I
17:27
Speaker 2: think last night was back in Los Angeles. Disappointingly, they
17:30
Speaker 2: lost to Turkey. Ah, not turkya Turkey, yeh, the Turks.
17:40
Speaker 1: So people, like a lot of people like what happened?
17:41
Speaker 1: Why is it spelled differently?
17:43
Speaker 2: Like back when I was living there two thousand and five,
17:45
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, everybody called it Turkey. Then, okay,
17:49
Speaker 2: it was not like a sudden revelation that what they
17:52
Speaker 2: called their country is also the bird we eat at
17:55
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving or we have in our sandwiches or something like that.
17:58
Speaker 2: Turks knew this, but they're like yeah, And then, like
18:00
Speaker 2: I think, year by year it started to grate on them.
18:03
Speaker 2: You may have noticed that there's more nationalism in Turkey,
18:06
Speaker 2: there's more Islamism in Turkey, and I think there's a
18:09
Speaker 2: the Americans are calling us a bird.
18:12
Speaker 1: We can't let them do. No, we're Turkey A. That's
18:14
Speaker 1: what we are now.
18:15
Speaker 2: And so you know fox in the World Cup, but
18:18
Speaker 2: everybody else is calling them Turkey A and not you
18:21
Speaker 2: know Turkey as we've been calling it for a long time.
18:24
Speaker 2: I still call them the Baltimore Cults sometimes Peking instead
18:28
Speaker 2: of Beijing, Bombay instead of Mumbai and all of that.
18:32
Speaker 2: But anyway, so we lost last night. It's kind of
18:34
Speaker 2: a bummer. Not that it was like a lot on stage.
18:36
Speaker 1: We'd already won our group, which is like like never happens.
18:39
Speaker 1: It's great.
18:40
Speaker 2: We won the first two games four to nothing and
18:42
Speaker 2: then two to nothing. Last night we lost three to two.
18:45
Speaker 2: But it's just one of those things where that's making
18:47
Speaker 2: Americans feel good. But I also think another thing is
18:49
Speaker 2: like seeing not just Freddy the German soccer tourists, but
18:52
Speaker 2: all these other foreigners come to America and say, oh
18:55
Speaker 2: my god, this is awesome. And it's not just the
18:58
Speaker 2: BUCkies and the waffle and all these other like staple
19:02
Speaker 2: and the things that we in America don't think of
19:04
Speaker 2: as being really like, we just very much take for granted,
19:07
Speaker 2: it's part of the background, and people from Europe and
19:10
Speaker 2: all these other countries are like, oh my god, this
19:13
Speaker 2: food is excellent. You have unbelievable variety in the stores.
19:17
Speaker 2: Gasoline is cheap, you know, by their standards, and they're
19:20
Speaker 2: just like, wow, America really. Oh, by the way, it's
19:23
Speaker 2: kind of fascinating. Apparently a bunch of Europeans did not
19:26
Speaker 2: believe that yellow school buses really exist because or they
19:29
Speaker 2: thought it was something they just did in movies or
19:31
Speaker 2: something like that. And they're like, no, no, they're they're real.
19:34
Speaker 2: They happen all the time. But I guess because in
19:35
Speaker 2: these countries either you walk to school or you go
19:38
Speaker 2: to boarding school or somebody, they just don't have big,
19:41
Speaker 2: you know, fleets of school buses taking kids to school
19:44
Speaker 2: every morning. So it's been fascinating to see this kind
19:46
Speaker 2: of cultural exchange. It's been fascinating to see Americans who,
19:51
Speaker 2: let's face it, World Cup ends, we're gonna go right
19:52
Speaker 2: back to not really paying much attention to soccer, but
19:55
Speaker 2: we love any sport that we turn out being good at.
19:58
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're probably not gonna win the whole tournament,
20:00
Speaker 2: but we made.
20:00
Speaker 1: It to the playoffs, so to speak.
20:01
Speaker 2: We made it to the elimination tournament, feeling great about that.
20:05
Speaker 2: All kinds of people, and we talked about the Democratic
20:07
Speaker 2: candidates who are picking teams besides Team USA people, are
20:11
Speaker 2: you want to be into Argentina? Great, go right ahead.
20:13
Speaker 2: Everybody's kind of adopting some team and enjoy. Everybody's having
20:16
Speaker 2: a great time, except maybe the English.
20:20
Speaker 1: I understand that.
20:21
Speaker 2: Apparently there was like this big prominent Irish bar in
20:24
Speaker 2: Boston that loved the Scottish. The scott you know, the
20:28
Speaker 2: Hagas Army or whatever they're called. Everybody loves hosting them.
20:30
Speaker 2: They're a heck of a lot of fun. British came
20:33
Speaker 2: to town and apparently one of the biggest Irish bars
20:35
Speaker 2: in Boston is like you ever closing that day?
20:37
Speaker 1: We're not, you know, we're not serving, by the way.
20:39
Speaker 2: In case for those who are wondering, I believe it
20:42
Speaker 2: was England versus Ghana, I want to say. And they
20:46
Speaker 2: playing in Foxborough in Boston and they.
20:49
Speaker 1: Say they tied.
20:51
Speaker 2: It's not the worst loss for the British in the
20:53
Speaker 2: state of Massachusetts ever, but disappointing result nonetheless.
20:57
Speaker 1: But look, everything's going great and the fact.
21:00
Speaker 2: That there are democrats like, ugh, we thought this was
21:03
Speaker 2: going to take Trump down a pick, like have you
21:04
Speaker 2: looked at have you noticed everything else? You're doing fine.
21:07
Speaker 2: You don't need the World Cup to go wrong to
21:10
Speaker 2: feel like you're scoring points against Donald Trump or something
21:12
Speaker 2: like that. Please just let the country enjoy this. Let
21:15
Speaker 2: the count We have had so many things, so many challenges, inflation,
21:20
Speaker 2: and just let us enjoy the World Cup. Let us
21:23
Speaker 2: enjoy like, as somebody said, there's like a giant international sleepover.
21:27
Speaker 2: Everybody's coming over, everybody's spending money, everybody's supporting the businesses.
21:30
Speaker 1: Everybody's having a great time.
21:33
Speaker 2: And don't worry about oh you the president's going to
21:35
Speaker 2: get some credit for it. It's okay, it's all right.
21:37
Speaker 2: We're going to be fine. You will live, You'll get
21:39
Speaker 2: through this. Go team USA.
21:42
Speaker 3: They want America to fail, not necessarily the team, but
21:45
Speaker 3: you know, fail as a host of the of the
21:48
Speaker 3: World Cup. And you know this is just a part
21:51
Speaker 3: and parcel of how they approach Trump altogether. I know
21:53
Speaker 3: we could go into a thousand weeds here with the
21:55
Speaker 3: reflecting pool, of course, and you could criticize Trump for
21:58
Speaker 3: saying this one.
21:58
Speaker 1: Thousand weeds are actually in the right now too, we
22:01
Speaker 1: should point out, and.
22:02
Speaker 3: It's at least sixteen and so you can talk about
22:04
Speaker 3: cost overruns. Democrats suddenly concerned about sixteen million dollars being spent.
22:08
Speaker 3: Obama spent way more and that still didn't work. But
22:11
Speaker 3: you literally had lefties out there cheering for the algae.
22:14
Speaker 3: They had posters rooting on the algae like algae can read.
22:17
Speaker 3: And somehow they're cheering for Trump to not just face
22:21
Speaker 3: some scrutiny for how this repair project has gone and
22:24
Speaker 3: potentially gone wrong. They literally want it to fail. They
22:28
Speaker 3: wanted to look terrible for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.
22:31
Speaker 3: They literally want America to fail.
22:33
Speaker 1: That's horrible. Greg.
22:34
Speaker 2: I'm used to Democrats rooting for algae, but they mean
22:37
Speaker 2: al Gore.
22:40
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I should have won. I was the
22:43
Speaker 3: last next president of the United States. Whatever line I
22:47
Speaker 3: used to have back then. But anyway, cheer for Team USA.
22:50
Speaker 3: Be glad it's running smoothly. It's not that hard. I
22:54
Speaker 3: don't ever remember feeling any differently about Team USA or
22:57
Speaker 3: any event if there was a Democratic president Clinton was
23:00
Speaker 3: an office during the Atlanta Games, Team USA, I still
23:02
Speaker 3: cheer for them just as hard.
23:03
Speaker 1: It's so weird.
23:04
Speaker 2: It's US versus China in the world. Tiddleywinks company, you know, championship. Yes,
23:09
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be riotten for the USA. I'm gonna suddenly
23:11
Speaker 2: care a lot about Diddliwinks just because I like seeing Americans.
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Speaker 3: We Love about the American Founding. You definitely don't want
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25:05
Speaker 3: need to close on a somber note. You noted this
25:08
Speaker 3: on your ex post yesterday. Glenn Bolger, founding partner of
25:13
Speaker 3: Public Opinion Strategies. He's been part of the polling world
25:16
Speaker 3: for decades here in Washington, very highly respected, passed away
25:20
Speaker 3: yesterday at the age of sixty three, apparently from brain cancer,
25:24
Speaker 3: a vicious disease. You knew him well. I didn't know
25:27
Speaker 3: him other than booking him for different shows when I
25:29
Speaker 3: was a young producer. Always pleasure to work with, but
25:31
Speaker 3: it was always in you know, fifteen thirty second spurts.
25:34
Speaker 3: You knew him on a much deeper level. It's been
25:36
Speaker 3: fascinating to watch everyone, regardless of what they think of
25:39
Speaker 3: current politics, have only very good things to say about
25:42
Speaker 3: Glenn Boulger.
25:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean you say I knew him well.
25:46
Speaker 2: I wish I knew him better in the sense that,
25:49
Speaker 2: you know, years and years back, he'd like something I'd
25:51
Speaker 2: written and you know, send some email and we started
25:54
Speaker 2: trading emails back and forth. Glenn Boulter was a Republican polster,
25:58
Speaker 2: but I think that's probably the least interesting thing about him. Yes,
26:01
Speaker 2: he understood the world of politics really well. He was
26:04
Speaker 2: one of the co founders of Public Opinion Strategies, which
26:07
Speaker 2: I'll admit probably has the least fortunate acronym of any
26:10
Speaker 2: polling group, but nonetheless always did first rate work and was,
26:13
Speaker 2: you know, much more reliable than some of these fly
26:16
Speaker 2: by night organizations you see popping up every election cycle
26:19
Speaker 2: and you never heard of these guys, but like the
26:20
Speaker 2: results well, Public Opinion Strategies was. You know, in Glenn's work,
26:24
Speaker 2: he was not afraid to tell you what, you know,
26:25
Speaker 2: the news he didn't want to hear. He could be
26:28
Speaker 2: very you know, he was cordial and warm and amiable,
26:31
Speaker 2: but that didn't mean he couldn't be blunt or direct
26:34
Speaker 2: in his assessment of what the public was thinking. And
26:37
Speaker 2: I think that people really found him valuable in his
26:40
Speaker 2: professional life. You know, I met his wife, Carol, and
26:42
Speaker 2: he's got three kids, and you know, so a couple
26:47
Speaker 2: years ago, one of my other friends, Derek Baxter, had
26:50
Speaker 2: written a book about Thomas Jefferson, and I had mentioned it,
26:53
Speaker 2: touted it, and Glenn loved it and said, can you
26:57
Speaker 2: put me.
26:57
Speaker 1: In touch with Derek? Sure?
26:59
Speaker 2: And he does it, and he decides to throw a
27:01
Speaker 2: book party for him, and you know, it just was
27:04
Speaker 2: a not just a great get together, It was just
27:06
Speaker 2: kind of an indication of like, when Glenn found something,
27:10
Speaker 2: he just he wanted to throw himself into it.
27:12
Speaker 1: One hundred and ten percent.
27:13
Speaker 2: And he and his wife were They made me look
27:17
Speaker 2: like a homebody in terms of world travels, and Glenn
27:20
Speaker 2: had become a really national, i would say national geographic
27:24
Speaker 2: level photographer of wildlife and sites and all kinds of stuff,
27:28
Speaker 2: and all over his house he had, you know, photographs
27:30
Speaker 2: from everywhere.
27:31
Speaker 1: He had been.
27:32
Speaker 2: You just want to talk about a guy just seemed
27:33
Speaker 2: to be living life the right, you know, like living
27:36
Speaker 2: life to its fullest, and you know, professionally, personally just
27:39
Speaker 2: seemed to, you know, have it together. And unfortunately he
27:44
Speaker 2: succumbed to cancer. It was I heard about the diagnosis,
27:49
Speaker 2: reached out, left him a voicemail, and unfortunately we played
27:53
Speaker 2: phone tech and I never spoke to him again.
27:56
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things.
27:57
Speaker 2: Where if you find out somebody you know is going
28:00
Speaker 2: through a hard time, one reach out with them. And
28:03
Speaker 2: my advice to people is be persistent, don't let it slide,
28:06
Speaker 2: as unfortunately I did. So Glenn Boulter, we raise a
28:10
Speaker 2: glass to you you talk about a guy who is
28:12
Speaker 2: living life correctly. You will be missed, but what a
28:16
Speaker 2: legacy you've left, not just in the professional sphere, but
28:18
Speaker 2: in terms of a terrific family. And sorry to end
28:22
Speaker 2: the week on a bummer of a note, but just
28:24
Speaker 2: you know, we couldn't let this wait anymore.
28:26
Speaker 3: No, no, it's definitely worth mentioning. And he was actually
28:29
Speaker 3: someone we had considered as part of our adding to
28:32
Speaker 3: our very small fraternity of guests on this podcast, and
28:35
Speaker 3: unfortunately that won't be able to happen. But Jim very
28:38
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28:42
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