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EP782: Troy Anderson - How To Be A Disrupter · The Thought Leader Revolution Podcast

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  Troy Anderson: He's a disruptor. He's a very disruptive force. He's very controversial.
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  Troy Anderson: He's sort of a lightning
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  Troy Anderson: rod.
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  Troy Anderson: You either like him or you hate him,
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  Troy Anderson: essentially.
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  Troy Anderson: And the Bible's full of all
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  Troy Anderson: kinds of similar kind of figures. Like I'll think about Moses.
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  Nicky Billou: Welcome to an exciting episode of the podcast,
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  Nicky Billou: I'm your
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  Nicky Billou: Nicky Ballou,
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  Nicky Billou: and boy, do we have an exciting guest lined up for you today.
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  Nicky Billou: He's the author of
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  Nicky Billou: The brand new book, Designated Disruptor.
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  Nicky Billou: And I am excited to have him on the show to talk about it.
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  Nicky Billou: I'm speaking,
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  Nicky Billou: of course, of none other than the one,
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  Nicky Billou: the only,
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  Nicky Billou: the legendary Troy Anderson.
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  Nicky Billou: Welcome to the show,
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  Nicky Billou: Troy.
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  Troy Anderson: Well, it's great to be on your show.
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  Troy Anderson: Thank you very much.
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  Nicky Billou: Yeah, you bet, man.
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  Troy Anderson: So,
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  Troy Anderson: Troy,
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  Nicky Billou: why this book?
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  Nicky Billou: Why now?
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  Troy Anderson: Well,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, I guess the story behind this book is I did an interview with Billy Graham
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  Troy Anderson: back in 2013 for a seven-part World Net Daily Series,
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  Troy Anderson: the possibility of an end-time revival.
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  Troy Anderson: And he told me the story of Jonah.
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  Troy Anderson: We all remember the story from Sunday school.
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  Troy Anderson: God sent Jonah to Nineveh to warn a judgment,
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  Troy Anderson: and the king of the people repented.
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  Troy Anderson: And Billy Graham said he believed the same thing could happen again this time in America.
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  Troy Anderson: So I was inspired by that to call for a national day of repentance in my second book,
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  Troy Anderson: Trumpocalypse.
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  Troy Anderson: And despite this huge miracle, a friend of mine ran with it.
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  Troy Anderson: He persuaded Rabbi Kahn to be the spokesman.
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  Troy Anderson: This big event on the National Mall occurred in September 2020,
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  Troy Anderson: the return National Global Day of Prayer and Repentance.
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  Troy Anderson: And President Trump flew over Marine One and issued a proclamation for a day of prayer and return
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  Troy Anderson: for his president to do this since Abraham Lincoln.
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  Troy Anderson: And then last year, we had this great North American eclipse.
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  Troy Anderson: It went through all these towns called Nineveh.
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  Troy Anderson: And so before the presidential election in 2024,
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  Troy Anderson: I wrote a story for Chris Moore,
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  Troy Anderson: where I used to be editor.
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  Troy Anderson: Is this America's Nineveh moment, our chance to turn back to God?
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  Troy Anderson: And then we watched President Trump survive that assassination attempt,
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  Troy Anderson: his reelection,
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  Troy Anderson: and now we have revival breaking out.
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  Troy Anderson: So I read a book for Charisma previously called The Trump Code, and this is the follow-up, Desenuated Disruptor, Trump and Other Unlikely Agents of Revival.
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  Troy Anderson: Sort of how guys bring about these early sides of revival that Billy Graham foresaw if we had this National Day of Repentance.
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  Troy Anderson: That's sort of the 30,000-foot level.
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  Troy Anderson: Tell me a little bit about you and your backstory.
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  Troy Anderson: Okay.
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  Troy Anderson: Well,
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  Troy Anderson: I'm a descendant of Frederick von Schiller.
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  Troy Anderson: He's the poet that wrote "Ode to Joy" that Beethoven
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  Troy Anderson: set to music in the Ninth Symphony and wrote some famous plays in the late 1700s, early 1800s.
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  Troy Anderson: And so as a little boy, my grandma would spend hours talking to me about Schiller
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  Troy Anderson: and encourage me to become a writer and fall in his footsteps.
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  Troy Anderson: And so I eventually became a
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  Troy Anderson: journalist,
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  Troy Anderson: worked at newspapers for two decades as a reporter at the Los Angeles Daily News for
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  Troy Anderson: for many years and executive editor of Charisma Magazine.
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  Troy Anderson: And when I was little,
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  Troy Anderson: all these people,
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  Troy Anderson: Jesus people from Southern California,
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  Troy Anderson: invaded my little hometown in their VW bands.
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  Troy Anderson: And one guy
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  Troy Anderson: had trained under Hal Lindsey at the UCA Light and Powerhouse Seminary,
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  Troy Anderson: and he gave me a copy of the
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  Troy Anderson: Late Great Planet Earth. It was a bestselling book of the 1970s.
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  Troy Anderson: And it sort of sparked this interest
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  Troy Anderson: in prophecy.
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  Troy Anderson: So I became a believer at age 11 and then a journalist.
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  Troy Anderson: And then in 2009,
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  Troy Anderson: a guy at church mentioned there's going to be this prophecy conference at Calvary Chapel,
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  Troy Anderson: Chino Hills.
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  Troy Anderson: And so I went there to cover it for the daily news.
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  Troy Anderson: And my first co-author,
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  Troy Anderson: Paul McGuire, was there.
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  Troy Anderson: And he said, the world is undergoing the greatest transformations in the
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  Troy Anderson: Tower of Babel,
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  Troy Anderson: a common global government,
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  Troy Anderson: cashless society, and universal religion.
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  Troy Anderson: And when he said that, I flashed back to reading the lightweight planet Earth. And I thought,
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  Troy Anderson: If this is true, this is a gigantic story because I'm an investigative journalist.
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  Troy Anderson: And so I introduced myself to McGuire.
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  Troy Anderson: He gave me a copy of his book called The Day the Dollar Died about secret societies and end times and prophecy and that kind of stuff.
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  Troy Anderson: And it began this whole what's now turned into like a 17 year journey of investigating.
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  Troy Anderson: Are we moving into these end time events the Bible talks about?
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  Troy Anderson: So I've now written 10 books and the latest is Designated Disruptor.
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  Nicky Billou: So the late great planet Earth,
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  Nicky Billou: that book sounds familiar to me.
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  Nicky Billou: Tell me a little bit more about that book.
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  Troy Anderson: Yeah.
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  Troy Anderson: So Hal Lindsey, he came out of the Jesus movement and he wrote this book called The Late Planet
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  Troy Anderson: Earth.
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  Troy Anderson: I think it came out in 1970 from Zondervan and it went on to sell like 32 million copies.
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  Troy Anderson: And it sort of popularized the whole Bible prophecy genre.
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  Troy Anderson: And so that was probably one of the most popular books,
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  Troy Anderson: except for the Left Behind series,
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  Troy Anderson: which
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  Troy Anderson: are fictional end times thrillers.
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  Troy Anderson: Sure.
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  Troy Anderson: So that book had a big impact on the Jesus movement back in the 70s.
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  Troy Anderson: And I, you know, came out of that sort of the tail end of that.
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  Nicky Billou: Wow.
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  Nicky Billou: 32 million copies.
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  Nicky Billou: That seems incredible.
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  Nicky Billou: Do books sell that way anymore or not really?
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  Troy Anderson: Oh, yeah.
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  Troy Anderson: Some do.
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  Troy Anderson: But yeah, that's,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, phenomenal sales.
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  Troy Anderson: Because he really took the, he took the, he had a newspaper reporter that helped him write the book.
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  Troy Anderson: So she knew how to really make it easy to understand.
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  Troy Anderson: So it's a very page turning kind of book and easy to understand.
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  Troy Anderson: And that's how I've sort of modeled my books.
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  Troy Anderson: make them as easy as possible to understand,
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  Troy Anderson: but also, you know, highly intriguing.
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  Nicky Billou: I know.
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  Nicky Billou: So walk us through this latest book of yours,
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  Nicky Billou: this Designated Disruptor book.
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  Troy Anderson: Yeah, so Designated Disruptor, you know, sort of,
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  Troy Anderson: let's look at this 5,000-piece jigsaw puzzle of what God is doing here.
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  Troy Anderson: You know, there's reports of,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, I think Barna Group's coming out with surveys saying there's been a, you know,
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  Troy Anderson: 25% increase in Bible sales,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, 20,
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  Troy Anderson: 25% increase in professions of faith in Christ among
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  Troy Anderson: young people,
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  Troy Anderson: especially young men.
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  Troy Anderson: And there's been,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, especially since the tragic
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  Troy Anderson: assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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  Troy Anderson: there's been,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, tens of thousands of people asking for,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, set up TPS USA chapters in high schools and colleges across the country.
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  Troy Anderson: And my Instagram feed is just full of all these videos of like thousands of thousands of kids,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, getting baptized,
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  Troy Anderson: getting saved,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, dancing in the joy of the Lord all over
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  Troy Anderson: the country.
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  Troy Anderson: So there's sort of this, this underground revival that's breaking out mostly
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  Troy Anderson: among young people.
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  Troy Anderson: And, you know, CBN News has been covering it and Christmas covered it pretty
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  Troy Anderson: good, but most of the media sort of ignored it.
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  Troy Anderson: And so this book sort of delves into,
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  Troy Anderson: you know,
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  Troy Anderson: what this whole thing is and it's designed to inspire people to join God and what he's doing,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, to evangelize and share our faith.
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  Troy Anderson: And,
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  Troy Anderson: and,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, as we move into these end
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  Troy Anderson: time events. And it talks about the roles of, you know, President Trump and Jordan Peterson and Joe
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  Troy Anderson: Rogan and Mel Gibson and,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, all these celebrities and faith leaders and,
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  Troy Anderson: you know,
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  Troy Anderson: these designated disruptors that God is using to accomplish this plan.
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  Nicky Billou: So let's go and talk about each of these disruptors in turn.
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  Nicky Billou: So let's talk about President Trump.
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  Nicky Billou: What do you see his role as being?
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  Nicky Billou: Why'd you include him in the book?
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  Troy Anderson: Yeah, so he's a disruptor.
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  Troy Anderson: He's a very disruptive force.
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  Troy Anderson: He's very controversial.
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  Troy Anderson: He's sort of a lightning rod.
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  Troy Anderson: You either like him or you hate him,
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  Troy Anderson: essentially.
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  Troy Anderson: And the Bible is full of all kinds of similar kind of figures.
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  Troy Anderson: Think about Moses.
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  Troy Anderson: He killed a man in anger when he was young,
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  Troy Anderson: spent 40 years in the backside of the desert,
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  Troy Anderson: and he was called by God at age 80 to lead the Israelites out of captivity in Egypt.
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  Troy Anderson: And Moses was,
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  Troy Anderson: he told him, I'm slow of speech.
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  Troy Anderson: I could pick somebody else.
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  Troy Anderson: you know,
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  Troy Anderson: he had his brother Aaron be the spokesman,
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  Troy Anderson: but, you know, God used him in a huge way,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, parting the Red Sea,
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  Troy Anderson: delivering the Israelites,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, the whole first five books
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  Troy Anderson: of the Bible.
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  Troy Anderson: Or think about King David,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, he's the youngest and he's sort of overlooked,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, yet God raises him up and then he commits,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, adultery of Bathsheba,
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  Troy Anderson: has her husband sent to the front lines where he's killed,
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  Troy Anderson: it's a terrible sin, but he repents.
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  Troy Anderson: And then,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, God uses him and from his line,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, comes Jesus.
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  Troy Anderson: And it's just,
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  Troy Anderson: You know, Samson,
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  Troy Anderson: you know,
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  Troy Anderson: Peter denied Jesus three times,
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  Troy Anderson: Noah,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, all these sort of unlikely people that God uses,
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  Troy Anderson: just flawed human beings,
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  Troy Anderson: just like, you know, me and you and everybody else.
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  Troy Anderson: And that's, you know, so it's Trump,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, who we think that is bombastic,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, billionaire playboy could be used by God to inspire revival.
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  Troy Anderson: But that's that's sort of what's happened.
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  Troy Anderson: It's sort of a spiritual turnaround going in the world now.
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  Troy Anderson: And he's using him and millions of other people.
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  Troy Anderson: So that's that's what the idea of the book explores.
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  Nicky Billou: So I'm from Iran,
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  Nicky Billou: and me and my people have been praying for 47 years for God to help
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  Nicky Billou: us get rid of these evil mullahs,
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  Nicky Billou: which I believe are the modern Nazis.
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  Nicky Billou: And well,
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  Nicky Billou: he sent President Trump to do that.
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  Nicky Billou: On Saturday,
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  Nicky Billou: early in the morning, President Trump announced Operation Epic Fury,
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  Nicky Billou: and he
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  Nicky Billou: told the Iranian people that their hour of liberation was at hand.
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  Nicky Billou: They'd been asking for help.
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  Nicky Billou: from America for years, but no American president was willing to give him the help until he was.
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  Nicky Billou: And that's all true.
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  Nicky Billou: What are your thoughts and comments on that?
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  Troy Anderson: Yeah, it's sort of like these genius ideas that he's carrying out. And, you know,
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  Troy Anderson: the capture of Madero in Venezuela,
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  Troy Anderson: Venezuela is sort of like a center of, you know,
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  Troy Anderson: some of the election shenanigans worldwide.
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  Troy Anderson: And so he's pushing it back against communism and
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  Troy Anderson: socialism in the Western Hemisphere.
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  Troy Anderson: And now with what's happened in Iran,
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  Troy Anderson: like you mentioned,
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  Troy Anderson: Nobody was brave enough to do this for 40 years.
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  Troy Anderson: And now he's done it and we're still in the middle of it.
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  Troy Anderson: You know, it's a very tragic situation,
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  Troy Anderson: but, you know,
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  Troy Anderson: it resulted in the freeing of Iran
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  Troy Anderson: from this terrible oppression and persecution that's gone on for decades.
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  Troy Anderson: So somehow,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, God is like using him to these very strategic things.
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  Troy Anderson: And plus,
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  Troy Anderson: you've got a big revival breaking out in Iran
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  Troy Anderson: that's been going on for a long time and the possibility of freedom here.
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  Troy Anderson: I mean, it's really quite remarkable to see what's happening on the world stage and the hope.
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  Troy Anderson: You know, there's hope now.
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  Nicky Billou: There is.
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  Nicky Billou: There's hope among the Iranian people.
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  Nicky Billou: They're dancing and celebrating that their oppressors are being killed one by one.
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  Nicky Billou: And they're thanking President Trump with their words, with their dance,
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  Nicky Billou: and with their funny memes on social media.
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  Nicky Billou: So you've also spoken about Jordan Peterson.
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  Nicky Billou: How do you think Jordan Peterson's playing a role in all this?
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  Troy Anderson: Yeah, so,
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  Troy Anderson: I mean, his talks and videos and such have reached, you know, tens of millions of people.
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  Troy Anderson: And he talks about the psychology of the Bible,
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  Troy Anderson: psychology of religion,
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  Troy Anderson: trying to sort of explain from a psychological perspective,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, why has these Bible stories survived for thousands and thousands of years?
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  Troy Anderson: And there's so many believers and people are,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, spiritual in nature and that kind of thing.
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  Troy Anderson: And so from an intellectual perspective,
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  Troy Anderson: he sort of brings this,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, logical reasoning of why the Bible might be something to really pay attention to and the different faiths and whatnot.
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  Troy Anderson: And so I think that's really played a big role in waking people up that, you know, perhaps the Bible is true and there's,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, there's evidence for it and the history.
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  Troy Anderson: We just so many mysteries we don't understand about faith and why these stories are so powerful in the human psyche.
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  Nicky Billou: That makes some sense. I want to see Jordan Peterson speak.
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  Nicky Billou: I live in Toronto and he's originally from Alberta, but he's he'd lived in Toronto for many, many years. And I think he just recently moved to Arizona.
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  Nicky Billou: But the entire appearance was about wrestling with God and wrestling with some of the ideas and stories in the Bible.
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  Nicky Billou: What about Joe Rogan?
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  Troy Anderson: Yeah. So,
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  Troy Anderson: you know,
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  Troy Anderson: as we probably probably everybody knows,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, Barron Trump suggested his dad go on Joe Rogan's show before the election.
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  Troy Anderson: And, you know, he's got the largest podcast in the world.
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  Troy Anderson: And,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, so President Trump,
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  Troy Anderson: people got to see him, you know, a regular human being.
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  Troy Anderson: He's got a sense of humor.
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  Troy Anderson: You know, he's highly intelligent.
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  Troy Anderson: And I think that played a big role and especially inspiring young men that, you know, to go out and vote for President Trump.
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  Troy Anderson: And that probably played a pretty significant role in his reelection.
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  Troy Anderson: So,
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  Troy Anderson: you know, just one more designated disruptor or somebody that tells the truth.
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  Troy Anderson: and is skeptical about things,
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  Troy Anderson: and his podcast is hugely popular.
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  Nicky Billou: Well, I happen to know a thing or two about being a guest on people's podcasts.
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  Nicky Billou: I've been a guest on over 950 podcasts since May 2022.
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  Nicky Billou: I have written a book called Get Booked and Get Paid,
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  Nicky Billou: how to generate six figures plus a year through podcast guesting.
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  Nicky Billou: And I've spoken in a variety of venues and audiences from global thought leaders to real estate investors and politicos about the power of podcast guesting.
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  Nicky Billou: And I took a look at President Trump's podcast guesting strategy.
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  Nicky Billou: And his strategy was to go on these shows that were very big and very popular.
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  Nicky Billou: So Joe Rogan,
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  Nicky Billou: This Weekend with Theo Vaughn, Patrick Bet-David and Valuetainment,
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  Nicky Billou: Aiden
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  Nicky Billou: Ross,
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  Nicky Billou: Nelt Boys,
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  Nicky Billou: Andrew Schultz,
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  Nicky Billou: you name it.
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  Nicky Billou: He was on a ton of shows.
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  Nicky Billou: And then he was also on X Spaces with Elon Musk.
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  Nicky Billou: And it's my estimate that the total audience of all these podcast guest appearances that
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  Nicky Billou: Donald Trump was partaking in is somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 million people.
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  Nicky Billou: Now, all of these aren't Americans, but still, it's a huge, huge audience.
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  Nicky Billou: And what was powerful about this was that it gave him a chance to present himself in a
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  Nicky Billou: long form format as a human being and not just some caricature that the left was talking
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  Nicky Billou: about.
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  Nicky Billou: And so these people who listen to these podcasts and watch these podcasts got to see a different
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  Nicky Billou: person than what the media had told him Trump was.
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  Nicky Billou: So Trump was able to change a lot of minds.
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  Nicky Billou: And I estimate that around 4.4 million people decided to vote for Trump who otherwise were
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  Nicky Billou: either not going to vote at all or not going to vote for Trump.
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  Nicky Billou: And Kamala Harris,
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  Nicky Billou: on the other
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  Nicky Billou: hand,
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  Nicky Billou: chose really not to go on any podcast. I think she went on two.
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  Nicky Billou: She went on the Shea Shea
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  Nicky Billou: podcasts and call her daddy.
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  Nicky Billou: And the audiences for those podcasts weren't that big.
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  Nicky Billou: And she didn't
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  Nicky Billou: really do herself a lot of good by going on them because she didn't go on enough to humanize
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  Nicky Billou: herself.
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  Nicky Billou: Trump won the election by 2.9 million votes.
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  Nicky Billou: If he had not undertaken this podcasting
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  Nicky Billou: strategy, he would have lost by one and a half million votes to Kamala Harris.
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  Troy Anderson: Isn't that something?
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  Troy Anderson: Oh, yeah, it is quite remarkable.
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  Troy Anderson: I think I read a story. I forget which media outlet was in,
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  Troy Anderson: but somebody on the left essentially said that it was because of the podcast.
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  Troy Anderson: It was a podcast
• 15:14
  Troy Anderson: That's why Trump won. And I think you've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what happened,
• 15:19
  Troy Anderson: because it's always very,
• 15:20
  Troy Anderson: very close.
• 15:21
  Troy Anderson: And that probably tipped him over the top.
• 15:24
  Troy Anderson: Absolutely.
• 15:25
  Troy Anderson: Absolutely.
• 15:26
  Nicky Billou: So,
• 15:27
  Nicky Billou: you know,
• 15:28
  Nicky Billou: that's my opinion.
• 15:29
  Nicky Billou: And I think it's powerful.
• 15:32
  Nicky Billou: So, OK,
• 15:32
  Nicky Billou: so you mentioned Trump, you mentioned Rogan, you mentioned Jordan Peterson. Who are some of the other disruptors?
• 15:39
  Troy Anderson: We have a chapter called The Hollywood Revival,
• 15:41
  Troy Anderson: and I talk about how God's used Hollywood in very powerful ways over the last century.
• 15:46
  Troy Anderson: And you think about the Azusa Street Revival that began 1906.
• 15:51
  Troy Anderson: And then you had, you know, now there's like 600 million Pentecostals and Charismatics.
• 15:55
  Troy Anderson: This little,
• 15:56
  Troy Anderson: you know, William Seymour's preaching back in 1906.
• 15:59
  Troy Anderson: And then you had Amy Semple McPherson was evangelist,
• 16:02
  Troy Anderson: founded the Four Square Church.
• 16:04
  Troy Anderson: She's sort of like the evangelist to the stars in Hollywood.
• 16:06
  Troy Anderson: And Billy Graham got his start in L.A.
• 16:09
  Troy Anderson: 1949.
• 16:10
  Troy Anderson: And William Randolph Hearst talked about his energy,
• 16:12
  Troy Anderson: the Puff Graham, promote Billy Graham.
• 16:14
  Troy Anderson: And that catapulted him into an international evangelist.
• 16:17
  Troy Anderson: And then you had the Jesus movement came out of Southern California in the 60s and 70s.
• 16:22
  Troy Anderson: And all during this time, you had like,
• 16:25
  Troy Anderson: you know, the Ten Commandments movie,
• 16:27
  Troy Anderson: the greatest story ever told.
• 16:29
  Troy Anderson: Jesus of Nazareth,
• 16:30
  Troy Anderson: the Jesus film's been seen.
• 16:32
  Troy Anderson: I think it's been viewed now 11 billion times, came out in 1979.
• 16:36
  Troy Anderson: 650 million professions of faith in Christ.
• 16:39
  Troy Anderson: We recently had the Chosen series of Jonathan Rumi,
• 16:42
  Troy Anderson: you know, sort of brought the life of
• 16:44
  Troy Anderson: Jesus,
• 16:44
  Troy Anderson: the disciples in a, you know, very personable way to a global audience,
• 16:49
  Troy Anderson: House
• 16:49
  Troy Anderson: of David.
• 16:50
  Troy Anderson: And now my literary agent, he's actually been helping Mel Gibson with the two-part sequel
• 16:54
  Troy Anderson: to The Passion of Christ that's coming out in spring 2027.
• 16:59
  Troy Anderson: And so we have a whole chapter sort of talking about these designated disruptors,
• 17:03
  Troy Anderson: you know,
• 17:03
  Troy Anderson: unlikely people.
• 17:04
  Troy Anderson: Now you have all these major celebrities in Hollywood talking about their faith and speaking openly because there's a new atmosphere in the world today.
• 17:11
  Troy Anderson: There's sort of a spiritual turnaround since Trump's re-election and people don't feel oppressed anymore.
• 17:17
  Troy Anderson: They don't feel like, you know, I can't talk about this.
• 17:19
  Troy Anderson: I'm going to lose my job.
• 17:20
  Troy Anderson: I'm going to get fired.
• 17:21
  Troy Anderson: It's sort of an openness to talking about faith.
• 17:23
  Troy Anderson: And so,
• 17:24
  Troy Anderson: in fact,
• 17:25
  Troy Anderson: I mentioned that we had that big event on the National Mall back in September 2020.
• 17:30
  Troy Anderson: It's like this big miracle.
• 17:31
  Troy Anderson: 42 million people watched that and a quarter million people showed up for that.
• 17:34
  Troy Anderson: And we called for that in one of my books and it actually happened.
• 17:37
  Troy Anderson: So now I've got a new idea to have an event at the Hollywood Bowl and call it the Hollywood Revival
• 17:42
  Troy Anderson: and invite all these unlikely people God is using to inspire us revival,
• 17:46
  Troy Anderson: have it be globally broadcast,
• 17:48
  Troy Anderson: and then tell the untold story of faith in Hollywood.
• 17:51
  Troy Anderson: The creative duck dynasty wants to turn it into a film.
• 17:54
  Troy Anderson: And so we're working on that.
• 17:56
  Troy Anderson: Now we're sort of putting here the team and we'll see if we can pull that off for probably spring 2027.
• 18:03
  Nicky Billou: That's a great idea.
• 18:04
  Nicky Billou: That truly,
• 18:05
  Nicky Billou: truly is a great idea.
• 18:06
  Nicky Billou: Thank you.
• 18:07
  Nicky Billou: Good on you, mate.
• 18:08
  Nicky Billou: Good on you.
• 18:11
  Nicky Billou: In Hollywood,
• 18:12
  Nicky Billou: some of the people that are believers include like Mel Gibson.
• 18:16
  Nicky Billou: You mentioned Mel Gibson.
• 18:22
  Nicky Billou: The God, what is the fellow's name?
• 18:25
  Nicky Billou: He was in that Amazon series,
• 18:29
  Nicky Billou: Terminal List.
• 18:30
  Nicky Billou: His name was Chris Pratt.
• 18:32
  Nicky Billou: Chris Pratt.
• 18:32
  Nicky Billou: Oh, yeah, Chris Pratt.
• 18:33
  Troy Anderson: Yeah, he's a great guy.
• 18:34
  Nicky Billou: Yeah, Mel Gibson,
• 18:35
  Nicky Billou: Chris Pratt.
• 18:38
  Nicky Billou: Mark Wahlberg is a man of faith.
• 18:40
  Nicky Billou: And Sylvester Stallone.
• 18:42
  Nicky Billou: Those are some people off the top of my head come to me.
• 18:46
  Nicky Billou: Patricia Heaton, who was on Everybody Loves Raymond.
• 18:50
  Nicky Billou: I think,
• 18:52
  Nicky Billou: as you said, there's a lot of Christians in Hollywood
• 18:54
  Nicky Billou: They're just afraid of coming out,
• 18:56
  Nicky Billou: but they're becoming less afraid as time goes on.
• 18:58
  Nicky Billou: So,
• 19:00
  Nicky Billou: Troy,
• 19:00
  Nicky Billou: where can people pick up the book?
• 19:02
  Troy Anderson: Yeah, so Designated Disruptor, Trump and Other Unlikely AIDS Revival.
• 19:06
  Troy Anderson: It's available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
• 19:08
  Troy Anderson: Pretty much anywhere books are sold, or you can go to my website,
• 19:10
  Troy Anderson: TroyAnderson.us.
• 19:13
  Nicky Billou: We'll make sure we put all that in the show notes.
• 19:15
  Nicky Billou: So,
• 19:15
  Nicky Billou: Troy,
• 19:15
  Nicky Billou: we end off each episode by asking you, our guest expert,
• 19:19
  Nicky Billou: what are your top three
• 19:20
  Nicky Billou: expert action steps?
• 19:21
  Nicky Billou: These are your three best pieces of advice for life and,
• 19:27
  Nicky Billou: frankly,
• 19:28
  Nicky Billou: business or spiritual success that you think my listeners ought to take on.
• 19:33
  Nicky Billou: And keep in mind, our audience is primarily business owners and entrepreneurs,
• 19:36
  Nicky Billou: people interested in building their brand.
• 19:38
  Nicky Billou: So keep that in mind as you give your answers.
• 19:41
  Troy Anderson: Okay. Well,
• 19:42
  Troy Anderson: I'd say that the top three things that I found, you know, in terms of my success in life is why I suggested I keep a journal of things that seem miraculous in nature.
• 19:52
  Troy Anderson: So when I pray and it seems like God intervenes and something miraculous happens in business or books or film or,
• 19:58
  Troy Anderson: you know, different events,
• 19:59
  Troy Anderson: I write it down.
• 20:01
  Troy Anderson: And so I've now kept this journal.
• 20:02
  Troy Anderson: It's about 300 pages long with hundreds of entries of just like miracle after miracle in our lives.
• 20:08
  Troy Anderson: And it's a big faith builder.
• 20:10
  Troy Anderson: And so if you if you doubt,
• 20:12
  Troy Anderson: you know, if you're doubting God,
• 20:13
  Troy Anderson: you're doubting your success,
• 20:15
  Troy Anderson: you're,
• 20:15
  Troy Anderson: you know,
• 20:16
  Troy Anderson: having trouble in your business or your career.
• 20:18
  Troy Anderson: You just go back and read every time that God intervened and saved you,
• 20:22
  Troy Anderson: essentially.
• 20:23
  Troy Anderson: And it's a huge.
• 20:25
  Troy Anderson: Yeah,
• 20:26
  Troy Anderson: it's it's it's very important to go back and read it.
• 20:28
  Troy Anderson: And so that'd be number one.
• 20:30
  Troy Anderson: The number two is,
• 20:32
  Troy Anderson: you know,
• 20:32
  Troy Anderson: take some time early in the morning and,
• 20:34
  Troy Anderson: you know, spend time with God,
• 20:35
  Troy Anderson: you know, read the Bible,
• 20:36
  Troy Anderson: pray.
• 20:37
  Troy Anderson: Your day will be completely different and you'll see God, you know,
• 20:41
  Troy Anderson: play a role in your life, your business, your family, that kind of thing.
• 20:44
  Troy Anderson: So I'd be number two.
• 20:45
  Troy Anderson: And then number three is,
• 20:47
  Troy Anderson: you know, form a small group of friends,
• 20:50
  Troy Anderson: you know, that you can talk to and pray with, a small group, something like that.
• 20:54
  Troy Anderson: That's very important to have that in life.
• 20:56
  Troy Anderson: And so I'd say those are probably the top three things.
• 21:00
  Nicky Billou: I'm just writing these down.
• 21:02
  Nicky Billou: They're fantastic.
• 21:03
  Nicky Billou: The first one is absolutely unique.
• 21:05
  Nicky Billou: I've never heard anything like it before in my life.
• 21:08
  Nicky Billou: Troy Anderson
• 21:09
  Nicky Billou: you're a brilliant man
• 21:11
  Nicky Billou: thanks for coming on the show
• 21:12
  Troy Anderson: that's a great honor
• 21:13
  Troy Anderson: thank you very much
• 21:14
  Nicky Billou: and that wraps up
• 21:15
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