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- 0:00If you've ever had a manager or an employee not put full effort towards the task at hand, or felt like they never did a great job or as good as you, I hope this video helps.
- 0:12The reason that most great performers will not deploy 100% of their effort towards the mission is not because it's a bad idea or a good idea.
- 0:21It's that it's not their idea.
- 0:24And as much as we want to say that everyone should just do their job, most people deploy more energy towards things that they came up with, their ideas.
- 0:34And one of the things that you can do is ensure that when there's a mission that's critical to the business, that the ideas of the team are the ones that we act on instead of just always as the owner or the founder pushing through our ideas.
- 0:48So we were talking inside of the home service boardroom, which is a community of million plus dollar business owners about this.
- 0:54And I shared five steps that you can use to see your manager step up and really build
- 1:00go to the next level, go the extra mile, and really deploy what I call discretionary effort, which is they don't have to put this effort in, but they do it because they care.
- 1:10They do it because they really do want to see something happen inside the organization.
- 1:15This is the thoughts in the shower.
- 1:16You don't pay them any extra.
- 1:18They're off the clock.
- 1:19They don't have to be thinking about the business.
- 1:21This is time when they're in bed and they wake up and they start thinking about the business.
- 1:25This is discretionary effort.
- 1:26They can decide to deploy that effort or not.
- 1:30And the vast majority of wins in business and getting ahead happens when discretionary effort is deployed.
- 1:36The effort that does not have to be deployed, but it does because of care and attention and passion for what they're trying to work on.
- 1:44And so the question becomes, how do I get other people to do this?
- 1:47Because as the business owner, as the founder, you have your equity wrapped up in the business.
- 1:52You have the livelihood of your family wrapped up in the business.
- 1:54But for someone that you're paying by the hour or you're paying salary, how do I get them to deploy discretionary effort?
- 2:00How do I get them to think about the business and solutions to the problems in the business when they're not on the clock?
- 2:06Or when there is opportunity that they could be doing something else, but they would rather, they would prefer something.
- 2:11to think about the problems inside the business and how to solve them.
- 2:15And so I have five steps.
- 2:17The first one is hearing their idea.
- 2:19If you're just constantly shoving down the throat of your team, your ideas, your plans of action, and you're taking this top-down approach of always just taking action on your ideas,
- 2:31they just become glorified task doers.
- 2:34And especially when you're three, four, five employees, that will work just fine because a lot of technicians do wanna be told what to do.
- 2:42They just wanna checklist.
- 2:43And for a lot of people, this is actually a whole skill in and of itself is like developing systems, checklists, SOPs, protocol.
- 2:50Here's the steps to follow.
- 2:52A lot of people want that as technicians.
- 2:54And for a lot of us as business owners, we have to develop that skill so that we could clearly articulate and tell our team what to do.
- 3:01As the business grows and you get A players, as you get people that otherwise could start their own business in your industry, that same skill that you have to learn of telling people what to do and telling them the checklist and the procedure and A and then B and then C and then do these things and then you are complete and start and finish.
- 3:19Over time, you need people that go beyond that.
- 3:22You need people to think about the business outside of work.
- 3:23You need the person that is going to think about solutions when they're working out, when they're walking in a treadmill, when they are in the shower,
- 3:31when they're driving to work, we need to unlock this.
- 3:35But how do we?
- 3:36Well, first off is, here's their idea.
- 3:39And again, your first five, 10 employees, they don't even want to think about it a lot of times.
- 3:44They just want to know, tell me what to do.
- 3:45I will do it very well.
- 3:47Give me some sort of compensation plan that gives me more reward the faster and the harder I work, and I'm happy.
- 3:54But once you start getting 10, 15, 20 employees and you need mid-level managers, you need technicians to become crew leads or foremen or leaders inside the organization.
- 4:06Once you start needing those people, you've got to realize that you can't just act on your own ideas.
- 4:11And if you do only act on your ideas, you become the bottleneck.
- 4:15Because for every single problem that comes up inside of the organization, you are the bottleneck for the solution.
- 4:21So when we think about how we make progress inside the organization, we have a problem, we have a solution, and then execution is made.
- 4:28And if you've always identified the problem, identified the solution, and just told everyone how to execute...
- 4:35That will get you to about a million dollars in revenue.
- 4:37After that, we've now got to find people that can identify their own problem inside the organization, identify their own solution, and then go execute on it.
- 4:45But to find that person, and more importantly, to retain that person, you're going to have to change the way you think about...
- 4:51command and orders inside of the business.
- 4:53You will not be able to be the only one, the genius with a thousand helpers, people just taking action on everything that you have come up with in your brain.
- 5:02And again, what has got you here to a million dollars will not serve you well getting to 10 million.
- 5:07And so what got you to a million is you being able to articulate the problem, articulate the solution, and then tell people to execute.
- 5:13But over the course of time, you become the bottleneck or the business stalls.
- 5:17And you just constantly are working all the time because you're the only one that can actually come up with ideas to solve the problems in the business.
- 5:23So how do we solve this?
- 5:24How do we attract great people that are gonna deploy this discretionary effort to your business?
- 5:30First off,
- 5:32to hear their idea.
- 5:33And for a lot of us, this is the hardest part, is shutting our mouth when we think we know best, or we have the most experience, or we have the most industry experience.
- 5:41We've seen this before, but to shut up and listen to someone else's idea, even though they might be wrong, is for many of us the hardest part.
- 5:48That's step one, hear their idea.
- 5:50Number two, once you've heard their idea,
- 5:54Maybe they're 80% correct.
- 5:55If this is the correct path, maybe they're here.
- 5:57Okay, I'm going to offer an opposing point of view.
- 6:00I'm going to try to swing them back to the middle of the road.
- 6:03But if this is the direction they want to go, this is the plan of attack, the execution they want to take, I might bring them an opposing point of view just to balance them out or for helping them refine their idea.
- 6:16But ultimately, what I don't want to do is trample their idea
- 6:20And just tell them, no, no, no, that's wrong.
- 6:22And here's why my way is right.
- 6:24What I want to do is I want to offer ways to refine their idea, to bring perspectives that they have not thought of or ideas that they might not have necessarily even considered
- 6:36to be able to refine their idea, make it better, or potentially change their mind slightly.
- 6:40But in this case, I am offering an opposing point of view to refine and like iron sharpens iron.
- 6:46A good idea with another good idea makes it even sharper, makes it better.
- 6:51And so instead of just, I'm not just gonna like let them execute on a bad plan, I'm not going to also just trample them and tell them my plan is better and here you go do this.
- 7:02There's nothing more
- 7:04defeating for a great talent to have an idea of how they can solve a problem in your business.
- 7:09And then you say, no, that's a bad idea.
- 7:10We're going to do it this way.
- 7:12You're going to lose good people.
- 7:14And if they're really good, they could compete with you.
- 7:18If they're really good, they have a lot of options to take their employment elsewhere.
- 7:23There's a thousand other people that are willing to hire them if they have skills of management, sales, they work hard.
- 7:29And so we've got to treat people differently than when we had three, four employees.
- 7:33We've got to treat them differently.
- 7:35like partners, like we really genuinely care about their opinions and their perspectives and their ideas and the solutions that they bring to the table.
- 7:43So here's their idea, then I'm gonna offer an opposite point of view to be able to refine that idea.
- 7:49And maybe I know this is the right way, I know 100%.
- 7:53And they're over here, I'm gonna offer the perspective so it brings them back maybe towards my idea a little bit.
- 7:59or at least just challenging their idea so it gets their brain moving in the direction of, okay, there's some things I might not have considered.
- 8:07The third thing I'm going to do is encourage them to defend and refine their idea.
- 8:12Now, if you've been more of a command and control type of personality and you've told people what to do, you're going to actually have to encourage them to challenge you.
- 8:20You're going to have to encourage them to defend themselves because if they have an idea and you say, oh, no, no, what this, this idea, what about this?
- 8:30Have you considered this other option?
- 8:31What if that was to happen?
- 8:33This specific scenario, how would that impact your execution?
- 8:38you're gonna have to potentially actually encourage them to challenge you.
- 8:43For a lot of employees, especially if they've been with managers where challenging the boss was potentially looked as a threat, they will see going against the idea of the owner or their boss as potentially them losing their job.
- 8:59And so to reduce their guard, you're going to actually have to encourage them to give you feedback, to ask them, hey, what's wrong about my idea?
- 9:09Hey, could you poke holes in that?
- 9:11Hey, if we had to and there's another solution that we're not thinking of, what would that be?
- 9:16And actually encourage them to poke holes in their own idea as well as your idea that you've put forward.
- 9:23and defend it.
- 9:24Like, hey, you think that's the case?
- 9:26Okay, great, I'm gonna bring this other perspective and I want you to defend your idea.
- 9:29And actually ask them to bring somewhat of a debate between your idea and their idea.
- 9:35Because somewhere in between there's probably the right path.
- 9:38And the fourth thing is, I'm gonna let them choose.
- 9:41So hear their idea out, offer an opposing view, encourage them to defend or refine their idea, and then from before, I'm gonna let them choose.
- 9:50So now that I've outlined my idea, their idea, ideally there's been some back and forth, some debate to be able to refine the idea of what the plan of tax is going to be.
- 9:59Then I'm gonna say, hey look,
- 10:01I'm going to let you choose and I will back you up 100%.
- 10:03And that's number five, back them up 100%.
- 10:06Whether it be resources, time, energy, I am fully on board.
- 10:10And that's really where any democracy is tested is like when 60% of people vote in one direction, what happens to the other 40%?
- 10:18Do we rebel or do we get on board and we put full energy towards making sure that the entire whole of the organism, the organization is moved forward?
- 10:27Okay.
- 10:28And so I'm going to tell them, hey, look, I've outlined this idea.
- 10:30You've outlined this idea.
- 10:31We've had some back and forth, some defending, some debating, some refining of our ideas.
- 10:35I'm going to let you decide on the plan of attack.
- 10:38And I'm going to back you up 100%.
- 10:40You will never hear me try to go against the plan of attack if you choose the idea besides my own.
- 10:47very important to set this level of safety that they can choose their idea and that they know that you will support them and not just constantly try to undermine the decision that was made because it wasn't your own.
- 11:01Now, what happens if they win?
- 11:03What happens if they choose their own idea, the one that was put forward, and they crush it?
- 11:08I am going to heap praise on them.
- 11:10And like a coach in a team that gets the trophy, they accept the award, they then pass it along to their team.
- 11:16They don't hold it, it's not theirs.
- 11:18They pass it along to their team and they allow the team members, the players on the team, to relish in that glory.
- 11:26That's what a great coach does.
- 11:28They don't hold it to their own.
- 11:30All the praise goes to the players.
- 11:32Now the same thing is true if it goes wrong.
- 11:36This is the big one.
- 11:38If your team member takes action on an idea, and you had said, oh man, I got a spider.
- 11:46Literally, let's go.
- 11:48Just outside the office at a table here.
- 11:50But let's say it goes wrong.
- 11:53They take action, and you kind of had warned them that this is gonna happen.
- 11:57And it does happen.
- 11:58And it turns out that the idea was not perfect.
- 12:02There was holes in their idea or their plan of attack, their execution.
- 12:08I am not gonna rub it in their face.
- 12:09I'm not gonna say told you so.
- 12:11A great team member will be self-aware enough to know that, hey, boss was right.
- 12:16Next time, I'm gonna consider even more what they're saying because obviously there was holes that they saw in this plan that I did not.
- 12:23And let your track record speak for itself.
- 12:25If your idea was so great and then you allowed your team member to decide on the plan of attack and then you threw your full resources, time and energy towards making that idea happen and then it fails...
- 12:37If they're a great team member, they'll be self-aware enough to know that the boss saw something I didn't and next time I'm going to listen more.
- 12:44I'm going to refine my idea more before I bring it forward.
- 12:46And I also am very thankful that I have a boss that did not be a stick in the mud, didn't try to prove me wrong, didn't try to go behind my back or sabotage my idea.
- 12:56They've...
- 12:56put full resources and full attention and fully supported whatever I was doing.
- 13:01They supported it to the internal team.
- 13:03They supported it to external customers.
- 13:05And even though they might've seen holes in my philosophy, they still publicly in the front yard made sure that I was being supported.
- 13:13So if they lose, avoid the inclination to say, I told you so.
- 13:17If you do that, you will lose just as much credibility as trying to trample them at the very onset of making the decision.
- 13:24The same thing of, oh no, that's a bad idea.
- 13:26Let's do it my way.
- 13:28Same exact horrible thing that's gonna happen to culture.
- 13:31If you allow them to take action, you say, okay, great, go for it.
- 13:35They fall flat on their face.
- 13:39They make a mistake.
- 13:40It doesn't go according to plan.
- 13:41And then you say, see, I told you so.
- 13:43Next time you should listen to me.
- 13:44You do not need to say that.
- 13:46Now, a great team member will be self-aware.
- 13:48A bad team member will be too proud to,
- 13:51to be able to change their behavior and listen more next time or refine their ideas next time or come with more humility to the fact that you might have more experience, you might have more insight, you might have more knowledge, you might know the industry more and have better visibility to what's going on inside the organization.
- 14:09And so when they come to you next time with their idea, they'll probably come a little more humble.
- 14:12Now, if someone is proud, proudful, and now they are trying to shirk the responsibility, the bad decision, they're trying to cast blame, all these other things, that's not a team member you want on the team, and you got to get rid of them.
- 14:23But if that team member is an A player,
- 14:26They will respect you more if you deploy energy towards their idea.
- 14:30And even if it falls flat on their face and they have egg on their face from a bad decision or didn't go according to plan, you then still allow them on the next time they have an idea to execute.
- 14:41And they will refine their ideas.
- 14:42They will become better.
- 14:43And this is the process of allowing mid-level managers to grow inside the organization.
- 14:48The reason that we don't do this many times is because we don't wanna see the error.
- 14:51We don't wanna see the mistake.
- 14:52We think we have all the ideas.
- 14:54And maybe you do.
- 14:55Maybe you are correct.
- 14:56Maybe you know they're gonna fall flat on their face if they take this decision.
- 15:00So when should I actually step in and veto things?
- 15:03Very, very rarely.
- 15:05Very rarely should I step in and say,
- 15:08You've given your idea, I've given an opposing idea, we've refined the idea, but I'm still, I'm going to make sure we're doing my idea.
- 15:15I'm gonna veto your idea.
- 15:17I would use this with great caution.
- 15:19I almost always want my mid-level manager, I want my technician, I want the person that's coming up with the idea to feel like they're executing on their plan because it's when they execute on their plan that they get discretionary effort deployed.
- 15:31when they think about it, and especially because I have offered an opposing view, they've actually seen those potential threats to their idea.
- 15:39They will work extra hard to ensure that doesn't happen.
- 15:41They will work extra hard.
- 15:42They will deploy so much more energy towards explaining it to the team, pushing, going the extra mile when it's their idea.
- 15:50You might ask like, well, then when do I veto the idea of my team member?
- 15:55If it's going to hurt other people on the team, if it's going to lead to catastrophic failure for the business, yes, I'm going to step in.
- 16:02But first I'm going to try for them to see and realize that themselves.
- 16:06Okay.
- 16:07But again, if they are head down, no, this is my idea, and you know this is going to cause pain to other people, whether it be customers, employees, the rest of the team, then yes, I am going to step in.
- 16:17If it's going to cause mission failure, i.e.
- 16:20the goals of the business have been clearly identified, the values of the organization have been clearly identified,
- 16:25and taking their plan of action is going to completely trash that or hurt other people or keep us from ever reaching the end goal of the organization, then yes, I will veto it.
- 16:37But very, very rarely.
- 16:39You want to use executive power as little as possible when you're trying to build a healthy team.
- 16:45This is not a monarchy.
- 16:47This is not where you just tell people what to do.
- 16:49If you want other leaders to rise up inside the organization, the plan of attack has to change.
- 16:54So I would think about this.
- 16:56I would consider this.
- 16:57And if you want to attract great leaders into your organization, you will have to be a great leader.
- 17:02And one of those things is sacrificing your pride that you are not a genius.
- 17:07that you might be wrong, and even if you're right, you do not want to be the genius with a thousand helpers, that everything has to go through you, every good idea comes from you, every single win is because of you, every single loss is because of you, everything is because of you, you are a bottleneck, and if you want great people to work for you, have the humility to realize that deploying all your energy behind their idea is the best solution.