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The Kenny Report | 6 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: The share market holds up, but interest rates remain on
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  Speaker 2: hold as the Reserve Bank warns that inflation is still
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  Speaker 2: a problem. Confirmation that Australian taxpayers have been funding an
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  Speaker 2: organization where some staff join the Hummus Slaughter. On October
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  Speaker 2: the seventh, riots and ethnic violence in London continue as
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  Speaker 2: the government and police struggle to assert control. Across to
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  Speaker 2: Brendan O'Neill in London, I'll speak to Shadow treasurer Angus
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  Speaker 2: Taylor across to Paris too, whereas Double Golden Girls for
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  Speaker 2: the Fox Family, and we'll catch up with Susio O'Brien
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  Speaker 2: and Stephen Senna Tempo two to look at the work
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  Speaker 2: from home debate becoming an interstate battle.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to hear a lot from me tonight about weakness.
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  Speaker 2: Weakness from governments and authorities is exactly what we don't need,
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  Speaker 2: but it's exactly what we're getting in this country and beyond.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to your life, your family, your country,
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  Speaker 2: your security and your economic future. What you need is
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  Speaker 2: strength from governments. But all around this are feeble efforts
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  Speaker 2: from politicians and authorities more intent on being politically correct
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  Speaker 2: or woke or just being loved their week. Let's start
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  Speaker 2: with the sickening confirmation, confirmation that your hard earned tax
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  Speaker 2: dollars for years have been going to an organization whose
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  Speaker 2: staff took part in the worst terrorist atrocity since nine
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  Speaker 2: to eleven. I'm talking, of course, about the October the
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  Speaker 2: seventh massacre in southern Israel, when hundreds of Hummus terrorists
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  Speaker 2: crossed from Gaza into Israel on a murder, rape, torture, mutilation,
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  Speaker 2: and kidnapping spree that killed more than twelve hundred men,
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  Speaker 2: women and children. More than one hundred hostages are still
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  Speaker 2: unaccounted for. As the war this terrorist atrocity triggered rages on.
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  Speaker 2: Back in January, we told you about claims that a
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  Speaker 2: dozen or more staff from the United Nations Palestinian Aid
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  Speaker 2: Agency UNRA actually took part in these murderous raids. Over
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  Speaker 2: the years, Australian taxpayers have tipped in tens of millions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars to UNDRA, and while the Anthony Albanesi labor
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  Speaker 2: government paused that funding in January when the claims about
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  Speaker 2: terrorist involvement were first raised, Just a few months later,
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  Speaker 2: Labor restored the funding.
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  Speaker 3: The Australian government is now finalizing an updated funding agreement
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  Speaker 3: that will include stringent conditions such as guarantees of staff
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  Speaker 3: neutrality and confidence in supply chains. On that basis, and
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  Speaker 3: after consideration by the National Security Committee this week, Australia
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  Speaker 3: is unpausing our contribution to UNRA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just some more guarantees.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, so keen to appeal to the pro Palestinian lobby,
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  Speaker 2: the anti Israel lobby that they restored the funding. Yet
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  Speaker 2: today there's been confirmation that the United Nations has sat
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  Speaker 2: nine UNRA staff because of evidence they were involved in
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  Speaker 2: the October the seventh atrocities.
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  Speaker 1: What a disgrace.
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  Speaker 4: It's obviously a very significant revelation and not one that
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  Speaker 4: will come as a surprise to many people. It should
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  Speaker 4: cause the Urbanezi government to reconsider their involvement to their
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  Speaker 4: engagement their funding of UNRA. It's completely and utterly unacceptable
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  Speaker 4: that a UN agency would have employees involved in or
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  Speaker 4: alleged to have been involved in the October seven tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely stop the funding.
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  Speaker 2: For decades, there have been claims that UNRA funding has
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  Speaker 2: helped in doctrin eight children as Islamist extremists, when unra's
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  Speaker 2: own staff have been involved in the slaughter of.
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  Speaker 1: Inner city Israelis.
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  Speaker 2: Surely any self respecting would stop this obscene misuse of
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  Speaker 2: taxpayers money. But our Prime Minister, well, he's showing his
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  Speaker 2: characteristic weakness.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they've taken action. That's the point. UNRA does vital work.
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  Speaker 5: We resumed funding on the basis of the strong steps
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  Speaker 5: that had been taken to ensure that there was integrity
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  Speaker 5: in UNRAH operations.
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  Speaker 2: Really, they always said there was integrity in their operations.
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  Speaker 2: They never admitted to supporting Humas and Islamist extremism. Yet
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  Speaker 2: now Labor believes them again and sends them our money.
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  Speaker 1: This is appalling.
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  Speaker 2: What the Palestinian people most need is the elimination of Hummus.
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  Speaker 2: But Australia will continue to give money to a un
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  Speaker 2: organization that has run with Hummus.
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  Speaker 1: This is weakness, dangerous weakness.
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  Speaker 2: Now the world is waiting to see the next move
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  Speaker 2: from Iran because it's vowed vengeance against Israel for the
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  Speaker 2: assassination of the Hummas leader in Tehran last week. This
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  Speaker 2: was a bloke who led a bloodthirsty Islamist extremist terrorism
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  Speaker 2: outfit Hummas was responsible for October the seventh, as we've
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  Speaker 2: just discussed, and like Iran, Hamas is committed to the
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  Speaker 2: elimination of Israel. Nobody should mourn the Hummas leader. But
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  Speaker 2: as I showed you, the Iranian Embassy in Canberra has
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  Speaker 2: flown its flag at half masted.
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  Speaker 1: In his honor.
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  Speaker 2: And even worse, the Iranian Ambassador to Australia posted on
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  Speaker 2: social media about the Hummas leader being a martyr and
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  Speaker 2: he urged the elimination of Israel, or as he put it,
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  Speaker 2: the wiping out of the Zionist plague from the Holy
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  Speaker 2: Lands by twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: Sickening stuff.
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  Speaker 2: A public call for Israeli genocide made by an ambassador
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  Speaker 2: in a Australia, you would expect a strong response from Australia,
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  Speaker 2: but we got this.
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  Speaker 5: We have called in the Iranian ambassador to the Department
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  Speaker 5: of Foreign Affairs and Trade. Is the protocol when something
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  Speaker 5: like this happens. I'll make it clear there's no place
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  Speaker 5: for the sword of comments that were made online in
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  Speaker 5: social media by the Iranian ambassador. They're a born and
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  Speaker 5: they are hateful, they are any Semitic, and they have
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  Speaker 5: no place.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they have no place. But what have you
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  Speaker 2: done about it? Albanezi says, the ambassador has been called
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  Speaker 2: into the department, as is the protocol, as is the protocol.
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  Speaker 2: Now I used to work for the Foreign minister, as
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  Speaker 2: you know, and that response is pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: First, the ambassad that.
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  Speaker 2: It could have been called in to see the minister,
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  Speaker 2: not just some faithless diplomats. Second, the government should have
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  Speaker 2: tipped off the media so they could humiliate the ambassador
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  Speaker 2: with cameras as he turned up at the department. Third,
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  Speaker 2: Albanzi didn't even call this out. He didn't call out
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  Speaker 2: this appalling position from Iran.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a social media post.
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  Speaker 2: It's a disgraceful and dangerous official national position that needs
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  Speaker 2: to be opposed in the global debate. And finally, when
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  Speaker 2: an ambassador preaches such hatred, when he promotes war against
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  Speaker 2: a peaceful nation in Australia, ALBERNIZI could actually send him packing,
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  Speaker 2: send him back to Iran. But that would require some strength,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't it. And as I've been saying, that's exactly what
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  Speaker 2: seems to be missing. As I keep saying, the federal
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  Speaker 2: and state governments have been pathetic in their response to
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  Speaker 2: these issues. Since October the seventh, We've seen hateful protests
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  Speaker 2: and hate preaching directed at Jewish people and supporters of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen support for.
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  Speaker 2: Hamas and the celebration of innocent Israeli's being killed, and
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  Speaker 2: we've seen inaction from governments and authorities. No arrests from
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  Speaker 2: those events, no prosecutions, just unforgivable weakness. I reckon the
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  Speaker 2: opposition is onto.
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  Speaker 6: This one practical thing that the police should have been
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  Speaker 6: doing since the said October is we have criminalized the
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  Speaker 6: public display of the symbols of a terrorist organization. In
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  Speaker 6: many cases, symbols of Humas and even the Al Cassan
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  Speaker 6: Brigades of Hamas, the militant wing of Hamas have been
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  Speaker 6: displayed publicly on the streets of Melbourne and Sydney and
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  Speaker 6: other cities, and yet no one has been charged or
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  Speaker 6: arrested with those offenses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the point of laws against terrorism symbols if
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  Speaker 2: they're never enforced. What's the point of authorities being too
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  Speaker 2: scared to take action against hate speech.
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  Speaker 1: I also showed you.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday how the Prime Minister was keen to call out
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  Speaker 2: other politicians in this country for inflaming tensions.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't mention them by name, but he meant the Greens.
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  Speaker 5: It's not appropriate for people to encourage some of the
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  Speaker 5: actions outside electorate officers and to dismiss them as being
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  Speaker 5: just part of the normal political process.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Albanize was keen and right to target the Greens,
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  Speaker 2: and the media picked up on the Q noting that
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  Speaker 2: the PM was calling out the Greens. In fact, the
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  Speaker 2: Greens were a little offended and hit back. But again,
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  Speaker 2: these are just words. What has ALBANESEI done? What about
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  Speaker 2: ending Labour's preference deals with the Greens?
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  Speaker 1: What about preferencing the Greens last?
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  Speaker 2: Given their insidious influence on our political debate?
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  Speaker 1: Will that happen? Of course not? That would take strength.
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  Speaker 1: Instead we get this.
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  Speaker 5: We could do with less anger, discourse and in general
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  Speaker 5: and how we deal with each other. Kindness and empathy
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  Speaker 5: is not a weakness. We need to behave responsibly in
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  Speaker 5: whatever forms we are.
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  Speaker 1: This is such a cop out, isn't it now.
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  Speaker 2: Of course kindness and empathy are important, but we're confronted
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  Speaker 2: day in and day out by hateful speech that seeks
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  Speaker 2: to inspire violence against Israel and against Jewish people. We
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  Speaker 2: can't do much about that as citizens, but as Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albaneze's job is to stand up, show strength and
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  Speaker 2: find ways to combat this stuff, to stamp it out.
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  Speaker 1: Instead, he carries on like a.
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  Speaker 2: Social media influencer, to sharing his pain and empathy. Do something,
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, tackle those who threaten peace and tolerance in
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  Speaker 2: this country. Enough of the empathy, Time for some action,
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  Speaker 2: time for some strength. I hope to go back to
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  Speaker 2: some of those issues, including in London at the moment
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  Speaker 2: where they're being torn about, torn apart by all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of tensions on the street. But I want to get
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  Speaker 2: to the economy now, and I'm joined by Simon Kahn
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  Speaker 2: from the Center for Independent Studies.
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  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Simon, Great to be back.
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  Speaker 2: I guess everybody was expecting interest rates to remain on
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  Speaker 2: hold today, especially after the sheer market tumbled so drastically yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: But it seems to me that what's surprised everyone is
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  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank Governor Michall Bullock basically saying these interest
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  Speaker 2: rates are not going down for a long while.
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  Speaker 1: Yet. What's your take on what she told us today?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, you've got to
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  Speaker 7: keep in mind that there's two sort of very different
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  Speaker 7: directions that things are heading.
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  Speaker 1: At the moment.
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  Speaker 7: We're seeing inflation that's well above band, that remains above band,
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  Speaker 7: that has proven to be very resistant to the RBA
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  Speaker 7: attempts to bring it back to that two to three
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  Speaker 7: percent level. It's sort of holding at around four percent,
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  Speaker 7: which is quite high and ultimately in the meeting to
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  Speaker 7: long term, very damaging for the economy. So the RBA
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  Speaker 7: is very worried about the fact that we've got this
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  Speaker 7: persistent inflation, that it's across broad based sectors of the economy,
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  Speaker 7: that it seems to be driven by an excess of
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  Speaker 7: demand and stimulus from government. So on the one hand,
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  Speaker 7: you've got this pressure to keep rates going up. On
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  Speaker 7: the other hands, you've got the.
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  Speaker 1: Volatility in the stock market.
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  Speaker 7: You've got concerns in China about slow growth, America about
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  Speaker 7: the uncertainty and slow growth there. We're starting to see
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  Speaker 7: unemployment pick up. So it's a very mixed picture. And
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  Speaker 7: one of the reasons I think why we've seen rates
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  Speaker 7: stay on hold, even if the RBA was perhaps tempted
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  Speaker 7: to increase rather than decrease them, is that there are
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  Speaker 7: so many mixed signals across different parts of the economy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it is which has brew there's no doubt
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  Speaker 2: about it. A really difficult one for policy makers. As
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  Speaker 2: you say, a lot of the discussion and speculation leading
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  Speaker 2: up to this was the next move that there'd be
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  Speaker 2: a hold, but the next move would be down, that
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  Speaker 2: there was a bias towards cutting interest rates in this
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  Speaker 2: country again, but Michelle Bulloch has admitted that they actually
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  Speaker 2: talked about the possibility of increasing them.
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  Speaker 1: Today and here's a little bit more of what she
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  Speaker 1: had to say.
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  Speaker 8: What we can say is that a near term reduction
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  Speaker 8: in the cash rate doesn't align with the board's current thinking.
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  Speaker 8: We've seen from overseas experience how bumpy inflation can be
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  Speaker 8: on the way down and across the economy. We need
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  Speaker 8: to see demand and supply coming back into better balance.
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  Speaker 8: Now I understand that this is not what people want
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  Speaker 8: to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are heavily mortgaged, to heavily leverage
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  Speaker 2: with their mortgages assignment. The suggestion there is interest rates
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  Speaker 2: won't be going down for quite some time. When do
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  Speaker 2: you say, looking at what's unfolding before us even acknowledging
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  Speaker 2: how volatile of is. When do you think we will
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  Speaker 2: see a cut in the official interest rate?
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  Speaker 7: Look, the RBA is giving every indication that absent some
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  Speaker 7: remarkable new piece of news, So a significant action by
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  Speaker 7: a reserve bank overseas a narc fall in inflation, a
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  Speaker 7: significant rise in unemployment, or an issue with growth, that
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  Speaker 7: they are not considering lowering interest rates anytime soon, arguably
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  Speaker 7: not even this year. That does seem to be at
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  Speaker 7: odds with the moves, and that certainly the sentiments by
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  Speaker 7: some reserve banks across the country, across the world, particularly
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  Speaker 7: in the US. But I think what we're seeing all
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  Speaker 7: the messages to coming out of reserve bank is they
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  Speaker 7: are debating between increasing interest rates and keeping them on hold.
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  Speaker 7: They are not planning for a reduction in interest rates,
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  Speaker 7: despite the fact that the market is clearly indicating they're
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  Speaker 7: expecting a reduction in rates, And the government is also
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  Speaker 7: making it clear that politically they'd like to see interest
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  Speaker 7: rates come down too.
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  Speaker 2: They're desperate to see them go down before they go
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  Speaker 2: to the polls, and that may not be happening. That's
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  Speaker 2: the political implication. Thanks so much for joining us, Simon.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate a Simon kwn there from the Center for
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  Speaker 2: Independent Studies. I want to get back to some of
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  Speaker 2: these issues I was talking about at the top of
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  Speaker 2: the program that that relate to the global debate and
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  Speaker 2: also how they're playing out within our own society, what
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  Speaker 2: it means for political debate and social cohesion. And many
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  Speaker 2: of these issues, of course are playing out as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: In Britain in a very brutal way.
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  Speaker 2: There have been ugly riots and violence between groups unleashed
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  Speaker 2: on the streets of a range of cities. There have
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  Speaker 2: been far right groups targeting immigrants and Muslims, and in response,
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  Speaker 2: there have been Muslim gangs targeting other Brits. Here's some
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  Speaker 2: of the latest from sky News UK.
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  Speaker 9: There've been rumors of a far right protest in Birmingham,
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  Speaker 9: so dozens of Asian men decided to get here first.
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  Speaker 9: Many were wearing balaklava's or face masks, one man with
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  Speaker 9: what appeared to.
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  Speaker 3: Be a bat.
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  Speaker 9: This had been organized by men who've had enough of
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  Speaker 9: the violence towards Muslims. As protesters gathered and we attempted
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  Speaker 9: to report live, it became clear the media weren't welcome
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  Speaker 9: a sense of the anger. I think you can hear this.
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  Speaker 9: We decided to leave, but as we drove away, this
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  Speaker 9: man armed with a knife attempted to slash a tire
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  Speaker 9: on one of our vans.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to do the same to us.
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  Speaker 9: The fury we witnessed has been caused by riots like this.
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  Speaker 9: An asylum hotel in Tamworth was set alight by a
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  Speaker 9: far right mob.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's cross to London now and catch up with
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  Speaker 2: author Brendan O'Neil joining us live. Good to talk to
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  Speaker 2: you again, Brendan, this must be horrible to live through
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  Speaker 2: in the UK. We know that this started in response
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  Speaker 2: to the shocking murder of those children up in Southport
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  Speaker 2: and the miser attribution to immigrants, but there are.
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  Speaker 1: Other factors playing out here.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed that you've mentioned in your public comments that
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  Speaker 2: the British police have been much more comfortable taggling right
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  Speaker 2: wing thugs than they have been some of the more
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  Speaker 2: extreme Muslim groups.
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  Speaker 1: Talk us through that.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 11: I mean the riots are really terrible. You know, there
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  Speaker 11: is no excuse for this kind of behavior. It's awful,
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  Speaker 11: awful stuff, and lots of communities are living in fear
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  Speaker 11: right now because their streets are on fire almost every evening,
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  Speaker 11: so it's really awful stuff. And as you say, the
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  Speaker 11: trigger was the stabbing of the three girls in Southport,
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  Speaker 11: which sadly risks being forgotten as a consequence of this
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  Speaker 11: street violence. You know, in some ways, the stabbing of
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  Speaker 11: those girls was almost like a George Floyd moment for
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  Speaker 11: certain communities in Britain. Just as the killing of George
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  Speaker 11: Floyd triggered a lot of anger amongst African American communities
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  Speaker 11: in the US, so the killing of these girls triggered
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  Speaker 11: a lot of anger in largely working class communities in
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  Speaker 11: the UK. So it's a fascinating grim develop that we're
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  Speaker 11: seeing in this country. You know, a lot of people
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  Speaker 11: are referring to them as race riots, especially now that
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  Speaker 11: there are clashes between white working class blokes and armed
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  Speaker 11: Muslim gangs. I prefer to call them identity riots. I
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  Speaker 11: think this is the wages of identity politics. When you
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  Speaker 11: divide a society along racial lines, as our governments have
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  Speaker 11: been doing for some time, when you spread the politics
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  Speaker 11: of grievance, and when you depict white people as privileged
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  Speaker 11: and supposed brown people as oppressed, you generate resentment. You
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  Speaker 11: generate division, and you generate racial and social tension, and
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  Speaker 11: I think that's what's now boiling over on the streets
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  Speaker 11: of our country.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's obviously a fair assessment of words. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just have a look at some examples of what's unfolding
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  Speaker 2: here is the streets of Birmingham. Yeah, that's just frightening
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  Speaker 2: stuff in a country like the UK. Brendan and just
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  Speaker 2: to follow on to that, I want to show a
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  Speaker 2: little clip from the BBC of all Places which shows
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  Speaker 2: some of the tension but clearly demonstrates that there are
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  Speaker 2: religious or ethnic identities being played out here on the streets.
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  Speaker 10: Two hundred and fifty to three hundred members of the
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  Speaker 10: Asian community that came charging at one of the side
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  Speaker 10: streets here up towards the counter protest site, charged at
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  Speaker 10: a police line and that became a real flashpoint. There
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  Speaker 10: were a chance of alo akhbar, which people weren't happy
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  Speaker 10: about here and that's where tensions really did start to grow.
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  Speaker 10: That's where the police then had to kit up in
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  Speaker 10: all their riot gear.
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  Speaker 2: Hell of a challenge for the new PM Kiir Starmer.
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  Speaker 2: He's talked about putting an army of police out there
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  Speaker 2: are the UK police now attacking everybody with the same
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  Speaker 2: gusto here.
• 19:50
  Speaker 11: No they're not. And you know, there's a real controversy
• 19:53
  Speaker 11: here over the term two tier policing. Keir Starmer says
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: it doesn't exist, and the left in this country says
• 19:59
  Speaker 11: it's a conspiracy. It absolutely is not a conspiracy theory.
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: We are seeing two tier policing playing out in this country.
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: There is no question about that. There was a riot
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: in Leeds two weeks ago in Harehills in Leeds, which
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: was a riot carried out predominantly by immigrant communities, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 11: the police ran away. They let them boil over, they
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: let them run out of steam, they let them burn
• 20:20
  Speaker 11: down buses and other things. And the left and the
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: media were very soft on those rioters. In fact, left
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: leaning magazines refer to them, refer to it as a
• 20:31
  Speaker 11: revolt against austerity.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: They said this.
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: Community had been pushed to the edge. Their anger is
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: very understandable. Fast forward a fortnite when white working class
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: people are rioting in a way that I consider utterly
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: unacceptable and the police are going in really heavy handed.
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: Keir Starmer has announced the setting up of new standing
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: armies of riot cops to crush them, and of course
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: the left leaning media is calling them fascists and far
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: right and the worst people in the country. The double
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: standards are extraordinary. It's not just two tier policing, it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: two tier politics, it's two tier morality. You know, Kir
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: Starmer is a man who took the knee to Black
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: Lives Matter in August twenty twenty at the height of
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: the BLM riots, riots that caused twenty five deaths in
• 21:16
  Speaker 11: the United States and a billion dollars worth of damage.
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: The idea that we should take lectures about street violence
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: from someone like Kir Starmer is absurd. So the double
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: standard here is really shocking, and we really need answers
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: as to why white working class communities are more demonized
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: and more ferociously policed than any other community.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Brendan, thanks so much for joining us. I think your
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: insights are so important because we need to learn some
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of these lessons in this country, very very important stuff.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Brendan, and I know that live from London.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: As I say, this is why the lack of.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Strength from authorities cracking down on some of these extremest
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: pro Palestinian pro Hamas, anti Islamist, anti anti Israel protests
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and country worries me so much. You have to keep
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: on top of this stuff or it comes out in
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: all sorts of directions, as it is now appallingly in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the UK. Now we've got to take a break. On
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the other side, I'll catch up with Susio o' brien
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and Stephen Sene Tiempai. We're going to talk about the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: way the Labor Party has resumed funding for Undrum. And also,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: if you don't fancy working from the office, well maybe
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Victoria is the place for you. Don't you love a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: little bit of interstate rivalry. Let's look at the latest
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: spat between New South Wales and Victoria. I love this
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: one because it's about something important. It's about getting the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: country back to a normal footing. New South Wales's talking
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: sense and the Victorian government seems to be out to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: lunch on this one. Now today, as I told you
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: last night, today was supposed to be d day for
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: New South Wales public servants after the Premier Chris Men's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: issue to come back to work order yesterday. He says
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: it's not primarily about injecting life into the CB.
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: I know that there's been a lot of commercial operators,
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: a lot of businesses in Sydney CBD or Paramatters CBD
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: that are desperate for office workers to come back. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: can understand that, and I'm certainly not going to criticize them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: The reason we've made this decision isn't about the economic impact.
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: It's building up the capacity of the public service in
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: the state.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And if you look at.
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: Some of the independent workplace reports, either in the economists
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: or from universities overseas, there is a drop in productivity,
• 23:29
  Speaker 12: there is a drop in mentorship.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about getting more work done. You know what
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they pay for. But south of the Murray, the Victorian
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Minister for Jobs reckons no one should have to turn
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: up too often.
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: Our current commitment is having a minimum of three days
• 23:46
  Speaker 13: a week in our offices across the public sector, and
• 23:51
  Speaker 13: we'll be sticking to that. We know that this offers
• 23:53
  Speaker 13: an opportunity for working families to get some work life
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: balance and a continuation of a very good output across
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: our public service as we continue to do this.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet those Victoria and public servants are kicking
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it out of the part now they are. There are
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: two different views from two state governments both from the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: same political party but opposite approaches, and New South Wales
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: couldn't resist just a little dig.
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: I've seen the Victorian government not New South Wales for
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: this change. We're not for changing. We think it's important
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: for the public service in New South Wales. And at
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: the end of the day, frankly, with all of the
• 24:31
  Speaker 12: lockdowns in Melbourne, I would have thought a lot of
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: people in Victoria would be desperate to get out of
• 24:34
  Speaker 12: the house.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Fair call.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: But Victoria wasn't done. In fact, they reckon that the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: work from home regime could be a recruitment tool.
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: What other states do with their workforces are up to them.
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: But certainly I'd welcome New South Wales public servants that
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: want to move to Victoria and work for a great
• 24:54
  Speaker 13: government to do so.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, move to Victoria and stay home. Hey, okay, fair enough.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: What about the perfect combination here?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Why not live in Sydney, in one of the most
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: beautiful cities in the world and.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Work from home for the Victorian government.
• 25:10
  Speaker 13: Well, we wouldn't want people based in other states as
• 25:13
  Speaker 13: a permanent arrangement. No, we would like people to be
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: based here in order to be employed here.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, work from home, sure, but work from Victoria.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't want you to have too much fun, would they.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Let's go to our panel now and bringing joining us
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: from Canberra is Radio two Double C Breakfast, Stephen Senna
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Tempo and from Victoria where no one has to turn
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: up at the office. Cusy o'brieny writes for The Herald Son.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: This is a great little argument, isn't it. I love this,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: SUSI come and work for the Victorian Public Service and
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: never have to leave home.
• 25:52
  Speaker 14: I mean work from home is a contradiction in terms,
• 25:54
  Speaker 14: you know, like military intelligence.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I mean what an.
• 25:57
  Speaker 14: Absolute fast News Southwell is saying what productivity? We will
• 26:03
  Speaker 14: put productivity at the center of our decision making and
• 26:06
  Speaker 14: our recruitment. Victoria has no such qualms. They're going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 14: allow people to continue so called working from home three
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: days a week and no wonder this state has the
• 26:17
  Speaker 14: most sluggish economy, the lowest housing prices and the biggest
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: state dead.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: This is what the public.
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: Servant has to, you know, is having to be turning
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: hardly ever, turning up to work. I mean it's an
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: absolute joke.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: If only the kids could do their schooling from home,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: then there'll be no traffic problems either, Stephen.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: You don't want to get too smug in camera.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Because there are some of the federal departments in Canberra,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I believe, where seventy percent of workers are working from home.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: It must be pretty busy out there in the burbs
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: of Canberra.
• 26:49
  Speaker 15: Oh look, well actually it's not and the CBD is dead.
• 26:52
  Speaker 15: But look, I just think this is farcical. The biggest
• 26:55
  Speaker 15: problem with this is is this argument that I know
• 26:57
  Speaker 15: working from home makes people more productive.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: How do you know we are? Ask them.
• 27:02
  Speaker 15: If you say to me, are you more productive sitting
• 27:04
  Speaker 15: on the couch in your pajamas? Of course I'm going
• 27:05
  Speaker 15: to say yes. I think that's where I do my
• 27:08
  Speaker 15: best work. But I just think the Victorian situation is fantastic.
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: So the work from home state run by the phone
• 27:14
  Speaker 15: and in government. I reckon Chris Min's when he heard
• 27:17
  Speaker 15: all of that, must have popped the champagne corks and
• 27:19
  Speaker 15: had a Boris Johnson style party in his office, thinking,
• 27:21
  Speaker 15: you know what, if all the blood has moved to Melbourne,
• 27:24
  Speaker 15: that'll solve our housing prices and our traffic issues all
• 27:27
  Speaker 15: in one, and we'll have our public servants back in
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: the office where they belong. I'm as a master stroke
• 27:31
  Speaker 15: for the most liberal government, the Labor Party's ever produced
• 27:34
  Speaker 15: spot on.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Now I want to get onto this horrible issue with UNRA,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the un relief Agency in the Palestinian territories. A look
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that there have been questions about what they do with
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: their money for decades. Let me say, but Susie, this
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: is a this is cold. They had people involved in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the most murderous atrocity committed since nine to eleven, and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: yet the Labor government, the alb and Easy Labor government,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: is going to still send them our tax dollars. I mean,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: what do they have to do to not deserve that money?
• 28:06
  Speaker 14: Well, I think you and I might disagree on this one.
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: I say that there was nine people out of thirteen
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: thousand from this organization who were working in Gaza, probably
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: surprising that it's so few in a way in a
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: country like this, In a situation like that, I think
• 28:22
  Speaker 14: they do deserve our taxpayer money six million dollars a year.
• 28:25
  Speaker 14: I don't have a problem with them continuing their humanitarian
• 28:28
  Speaker 14: work in palist in Gaza for the Palestinians, but I
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: do think there obviously needs to be a lot more
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: auditing and accountability in terms of who they've got working
• 28:41
  Speaker 14: for them and what it is they're doing on it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I think they should be scrapped. I think humanitarian aid
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: is important, but they've got to do it through a
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: new agency because a compromised they've been working hand in
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: glove with Hamas and Susie's point is fair on the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: numbers steven nine, but that's nine that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: They've found and admitted and gotten rid of.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: There are hundreds of them in UNRA, no doubt, who've
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: been working hand in glove with.
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: Hummus and that's the key nine that have been identified.
• 29:09
  Speaker 15: But this isn't a problem that's only just popped up recently.
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: I mean, we've known about this for months and the
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: reality is that there are other ways to get humanitarian
• 29:16
  Speaker 15: aid to Gaza, and you know, I mean, let's explore
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: other options, because we've all we've been told from the
• 29:22
  Speaker 15: very beginning by people on the ground that UNRA is
• 29:24
  Speaker 15: not the best option for getting humanitarian aid in there.
• 29:27
  Speaker 15: So let's be a bit creative about this rather than
• 29:29
  Speaker 15: just keep throwing money at an organization that we know
• 29:31
  Speaker 15: has been tainted for months, not just the last twenty
• 29:34
  Speaker 15: four hours, when UNRA finally woke up and said, all jeez,
• 29:37
  Speaker 15: there's nine bad buggers that work for us.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when they finally when the war in Gaza is
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: finally over, and however Gaza is run, it needs to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: be run by and helped by something other than UMRA.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: In my view, although a lot.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Of people would agree with Susie, no doubt, I just
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: want to finish on this other issue.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Who goes to our friends in Queensland. There's Stephen Miles character.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, every time you think politics has gone to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a new low, he surprises you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: On the downside.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: His latest effort to make life easy for people is
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: to have government run petrol stations.
• 30:09
  Speaker 16: Have a look, We've used public ownership successfully to drive
• 30:13
  Speaker 16: down energy costs, electricity costs, and we intend to use
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: it here to deliver greater competition into our fuel market.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Susie, government owned and run petrol stations, they may as
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: well take over the bakeries and the dairies as well.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: They may as well just turn it into an East
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: German control economy.
• 30:34
  Speaker 14: Well, you've got to admire Stephen Miles. He's not going
• 30:36
  Speaker 14: to let a lack of modeling or a lack of
• 30:38
  Speaker 14: research get in the way of a lightfold moment from
• 30:41
  Speaker 14: his government. I mean, seriously, I mean this is all
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: about protecting the mum and dad petrol station owners from
• 30:47
  Speaker 14: big business takeover by big business. So the answer is
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: what to let them be taken over by the government instead.
• 30:53
  Speaker 14: I mean, it is absolutely ridiculous. And eighty five percent
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: of people and one online poll said thinking this is absurd,
• 31:01
  Speaker 14: And they're right.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: He's an absolute ripper, isn't he. Stephen.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: The'se if he got re elected to imagine the Olympic
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Games in Brisbane look like a look like North Korea
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: by then.
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: The work experience keeping charge of Queensland. Yeah, well, if
• 31:16
  Speaker 15: he gets elected again, you know, the athletes can work
• 31:18
  Speaker 15: from home, the petrol station attendance can work from home.
• 31:21
  Speaker 15: Where's he going to get the land to build these
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: service stations?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Is he going to pay overs to.
• 31:25
  Speaker 15: Buy the land? Banking from the big organization fit income
• 31:30
  Speaker 15: should go.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Now you've tied the circle for us there beautifully.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Well, what's the problem with the government owning everything and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: running everything? The trouble is all the workers are at home.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Still.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: This is going to fall over pretty quickly.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, Stephen, Senecie and Susie
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: O'Brien catch up with us every Tuesday.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: We've got to get to a break.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: On the other side, we're heading to Paris and it
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: will also be catch up with Kristen Tates.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Talk about some Crimsworthy Combala Harris.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Clips that have resurfaced. They're going viral. I'll show you
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: them next. Let's head straight.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: To Paris and catch up with Fox Sports News reporter.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Luke Doherty again. Good to talk to you, Luca. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: got to tell you, as you would well know, even
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: from Paris, Australia, he's in love with the Fox family.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And when Naomi Fox got to go to the Olympics,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: everyone was just thinking it was very nice that Jess
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: got to have her sister on the team with her. Well,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: it turned out to be a whole lot better than that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely made a name for herself. It used to
• 32:31
  Speaker 17: be like coming into bat after Bradman for Miami Fox,
• 32:34
  Speaker 17: but now she has really marked her territory in terms
• 32:37
  Speaker 17: of her own piece of Olympic history. This was amazing
• 32:40
  Speaker 17: to see day of competition yesterday with Miami really producing
• 32:45
  Speaker 17: her performance that we expect from Jess. She was so
• 32:48
  Speaker 17: so clinical in that race to get the job done.
• 32:51
  Speaker 17: And when you think about it, all the women's events
• 32:54
  Speaker 17: here in the Canooslalam in Paris have been one by
• 32:57
  Speaker 17: members of the Fox family. So with Jess getting the
• 33:00
  Speaker 17: K one and C one gold are now Noemi her
• 33:02
  Speaker 17: own piece of history in the kayak cross.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: She has tred such a.
• 33:06
  Speaker 17: Difficult path to this point. So when Australia sends athletes
• 33:09
  Speaker 17: to the Games, they can only nominate one female and
• 33:12
  Speaker 17: one male athletes. Of course, paddle Australias always going to
• 33:15
  Speaker 17: nominate Jess ahead of Noami. She's the greatest paddler.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Of all time.
• 33:19
  Speaker 17: So what she had to do was go to a
• 33:21
  Speaker 17: qualifying event in Prague in June. She had to win
• 33:24
  Speaker 17: six races in a row to try and get into
• 33:26
  Speaker 17: the final where there were three quota spots up for grabs.
• 33:29
  Speaker 17: She ended up finishing in second place to grab her
• 33:32
  Speaker 17: own spot on this team finally, and you could see
• 33:35
  Speaker 17: the shock on her face and disbelief that she is
• 33:37
  Speaker 17: now an Olympic gold medalist.
• 33:41
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I think tomorrow I'll wake up and check that
• 33:44
  Speaker 18: it wasn't all a dream, and I'll check to see
• 33:46
  Speaker 18: if it's still in my room.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: But I dreamed of.
• 33:48
  Speaker 18: The semi final and I knew that once I was
• 33:51
  Speaker 18: in the semifinal top eight, anything was possible. And then
• 33:54
  Speaker 18: when I was on the ramp in the final, I thought, Okay,
• 33:57
  Speaker 18: enjoy it. I mean, you've mete it here. It's incredible
• 34:00
  Speaker 18: to be here. You've won every single round, so keep
• 34:04
  Speaker 18: it up.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, terrific stuff and super quick. Luke staying in the water.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: But a lot closer to Australia. In the French territory
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: of Tahiti, Australia medaled again.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:19
  Speaker 17: So fifteen seven hundred kilometers away from the host city,
• 34:23
  Speaker 17: Australia has won an Olympic silver medal with Jack Robinson.
• 34:26
  Speaker 17: He had to beat the three time world champ Gabrielle
• 34:28
  Speaker 17: Medina in the semis and then came up against the
• 34:31
  Speaker 17: Tahitian local in the final, a guy who has been
• 34:35
  Speaker 17: surfing this break since he was just eight years old,
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: Kali vas. He popped up a great photo if you
• 34:42
  Speaker 17: trawl through his Instagram feed as well, of him just
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: out there surfing Chopu, one of the most dangerous breaks
• 34:47
  Speaker 17: in the world, just catching his dinner with a snorkel
• 34:50
  Speaker 17: as well. That's how comfortable Kalivas is on this break.
• 34:52
  Speaker 17: So no shame for Jack to finish second year behind
• 34:55
  Speaker 17: a guy who just knows it like the back of
• 34:57
  Speaker 17: his hand.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great metal for Jack and yeah the local break
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that helps her.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, thanks so much. Look, Kevin, great day ahead.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Look Deliti there in Paris for Fox Sports News. Now,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I want to get back to American politics, and Joe
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Biden has been meeting with these national security.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Advisors as the whole white world whites to say what
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Iran will do next.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of tensions around after a rocket attack in
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Iraq injured multiple US personnel. I caught up with Christian
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Tite to talk about these serious items on Joe Biden's plate.
• 35:25
  Speaker 19: I have thought since that debate between Donald Trump and
• 35:28
  Speaker 19: Joe Biden that the time between now and whoever's sworn
• 35:32
  Speaker 19: in as the next president could be a very dangerous time, Chris,
• 35:37
  Speaker 19: because not only do Americans understand that we have a
• 35:40
  Speaker 19: brain dead president, but the entire world does at this point,
• 35:44
  Speaker 19: that includes the enemies of the United States. This is
• 35:48
  Speaker 19: the ideal time for hostile nations to attack or take
• 35:53
  Speaker 19: nefarious actions because there's clearly either nobody in charge of
• 35:57
  Speaker 19: this country. There's no leader of the free world, or
• 36:00
  Speaker 19: there is a shadowy cabal in charge. So it's very scary.
• 36:04
  Speaker 19: And the fact that the president is meeting with his
• 36:06
  Speaker 19: advisors doesn't give me much comfort.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a wiring situation, something of a leadership
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: vacuum in the US with a president who is at least.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: A lame duck.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: President Brian did one, as you said, gently put it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: But I've got to show people this comment from the
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: former US Speaker Nancy Pelosi, her summation of Joe Biden
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: how we should be remembered.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: In history, is just astonishing. Have a look.
• 36:32
  Speaker 20: So he wasn't a good place to make, what other
• 36:34
  Speaker 20: decision at the top of his game, such a consequential
• 36:38
  Speaker 20: president of the United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of
• 36:41
  Speaker 20: president of the United States.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Want to know what comes next?
• 36:45
  Speaker 20: That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Lincoln and Joe Biden.
• 36:52
  Speaker 20: But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful.
• 36:54
  Speaker 20: I don't say take him down, but you can add Biden.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It's just astonishing.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Kristen mount rushboll Well, I have him lying down on
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: After he's full of off. He's black or something.
• 37:07
  Speaker 19: I was just at Mount Rushmore a few years ago.
• 37:10
  Speaker 19: It's just such a stunning site. It makes you so
• 37:13
  Speaker 19: proud to be an American. And the only thing that
• 37:15
  Speaker 19: would make me more proud to be an American, Chris,
• 37:17
  Speaker 19: is if I could go there and see Joe Biden
• 37:20
  Speaker 19: right there next to Abraham Lincoln. He is just one
• 37:24
  Speaker 19: of our country's greatest statesmen in all of our history.
• 37:27
  Speaker 19: I mean, come on, this is all just laughable. These liberals,
• 37:30
  Speaker 19: now that they have gotten rid of Joe Biden has
• 37:33
  Speaker 19: a liability, they can go back to telling us he's
• 37:35
  Speaker 19: the greatest thing ever.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: He's on top of his game. This is kind of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: what they do.
• 37:41
  Speaker 19: And the American people at this point understand exactly what's
• 37:45
  Speaker 19: going on. But of course the Democrats have to do
• 37:47
  Speaker 19: this because to admit that the president is completely gone
• 37:52
  Speaker 19: would be to admit them he's got a step aside
• 37:54
  Speaker 19: immediately and Kim finish out the firm. So they're just
• 37:57
  Speaker 19: lying to us and we all know it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, transparent, and it is embarrassing. Of course.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, the focus is going on to Kamala
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Harris and people have been digging through some of her
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: rather in nine comments in the past.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: This one's gone nuts this week.
• 38:11
  Speaker 21: You know, we have to stay woke, like everybody needs
• 38:14
  Speaker 21: to be woke. And you can talk about it if
• 38:19
  Speaker 21: you're the wokest or woker, but just stay.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: More woke than less woke. Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Now, as if that's not cringeworthy enough for Christian, there's
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: also an old clip from her a few years back,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: trying to explain the concept of inflation.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Haven't looked.
• 38:39
  Speaker 22: Prices have gone up and families and individuals are dealing
• 38:47
  Speaker 22: with the.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Realities of.
• 38:50
  Speaker 22: That bread costs more, the gas costs more, and we
• 38:54
  Speaker 22: have to understand what that means. That's about the cost
• 38:57
  Speaker 22: of living going up. That's about having to stress and
• 39:02
  Speaker 22: stretch limited resources.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It is such a worry Christian now in the US,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: no I doubt, and certainly even in Australia, those who
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: criticized Kamala Harris has happened to May already. If you
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: criticize her for ineptitude, you're attacked for apparently having a
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: dim view of her because she's a woman and she's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: a woman of Cala. But the point is there's nothing
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: about her background that should give anybody any confidence about
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: her having the ability to be president.
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: Yes, and especially when you watch that first clip, that's
• 39:33
  Speaker 19: who Kamala Harris is. She is the embodiment of a
• 39:37
  Speaker 19: woke politician. People need to understand. In twenty nineteen she
• 39:41
  Speaker 19: was actually the most liberal senator in the United States.
• 39:45
  Speaker 19: She is not a centrist.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: She is a far left.
• 39:48
  Speaker 19: Progressive and she needs to be called out on her record.
• 39:51
  Speaker 19: She and Biden have destroyed this country's economy, destroyed our border,
• 39:56
  Speaker 19: destroyed law and order. That is what people need to
• 39:59
  Speaker 19: be focused on with Kamala Harris.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking about Donald Trump, I don't know whether he's
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: really found his line and length against her, a term
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: we would use in cricket playing nations. He's not really
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: been able to put her on the back foot yet,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I suppose.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But I want to just show some of his campaigning.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: This is a rather unusual campaign.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Event where he's received a cyber truck courtesy of online
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: influencer Aiden Ross, who's obviously made plenty of money, and
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the cyber truck features well is now a very famous photo.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Have a look, Well.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: That is beautiful.
• 40:32
  Speaker 17: Am I going to close the door really quick?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Just want to show on the wrap.
• 40:37
  Speaker 17: Check out this rapper let me know your honest thoughts.
• 40:40
  Speaker 15: I think it's.
• 40:42
  Speaker 17: I think I know we're not going to drive anywhere,
• 40:44
  Speaker 17: but I was wondering if you wanted to like listen
• 40:46
  Speaker 17: to like a song are Let's go?
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: This is nice?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Good Lord Christen, there's the former president is running again,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: sitting in a Cyba truck listening to the the Mamas
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and papas. I think it is you've got some strange
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: politics going on in your country.
• 41:10
  Speaker 19: I love that Trump is willing to talk with all
• 41:12
  Speaker 19: of these people, though. I love that he's willing to
• 41:14
  Speaker 19: go into a room with the black journalists and do
• 41:17
  Speaker 19: an interview with them and talk to these gen Z influencers.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
• 41:22
  Speaker 19: What Trump needs to do, though, in addition to all
• 41:24
  Speaker 19: of these interviews, is to keep the focus on policy
• 41:28
  Speaker 19: and Kamala Harris's left wing agenda. Do not let the
• 41:31
  Speaker 19: Democrats turn this into an election about personality. That's what
• 41:35
  Speaker 19: the Democrats are trying to do, and make this all
• 41:37
  Speaker 19: about Trump being a threat to democracy. If Trump focuses
• 41:40
  Speaker 19: on policy and reaches out to these different constituencies, like
• 41:44
  Speaker 19: young people, like minorities, he can win some of those voters.
• 41:48
  Speaker 19: So that's what I hope to see from former President Trump.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: We shall say thanks so much for joining us again, Kristin,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Chris.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I after saying that from Nancy Pelosi. We just
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: had the double check on Mount Rushmore, right, Yeah. George Washington,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and the great Teddy Roosevelt.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: They're the four up there. And you want to add
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: on Joe Biden. These people have lost touch with reality,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: haven't they now?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Stick around, I'm going to have a quick break on
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: the other side. They're going to catch up with Shadow
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: treasurer Angus Taylor on this interest rate decision and also
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Labour's weakness on anti Semitism.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the economy and the cost of living.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And there was relief all around today when the Australian
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: stock market performed well after amassing losses of almost six
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: percent over the previous two days. As the Reserve Bank
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: kept interest rates on hold. The ASX closed up almost
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: half a percentage point. As I put it to Shadow
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Treasure Angus Taylor, there was a sense of relief.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question.
• 42:52
  Speaker 23: It's a time of great uncertainty, Chris, and we're certainly
• 42:56
  Speaker 23: seeing that in capital market. So I think households feel
• 42:59
  Speaker 23: the same way as they struggled to make ends meet
• 43:02
  Speaker 23: after the sharp increases in prices they've seen in the
• 43:05
  Speaker 23: last couple of years, that collapse in their real disposable incomes.
• 43:10
  Speaker 23: There will be some relief that there was no increase
• 43:13
  Speaker 23: in interest rates today, although the Reserve Bank put out
• 43:16
  Speaker 23: a very sober statement and it's clear that there is
• 43:19
  Speaker 23: a long way to go before we beat inflation in
• 43:22
  Speaker 23: this country. Indeed, they increased their forecast for inflation and
• 43:26
  Speaker 23: said it's going to take longer to get inflation back
• 43:29
  Speaker 23: to the target range, which means we can expect interest
• 43:32
  Speaker 23: rates to be higher for longer. So there's a lot
• 43:34
  Speaker 23: of pain, sadly, still to come. And frankly, we have
• 43:37
  Speaker 23: a government that hasn't taken the bill by the horns
• 43:40
  Speaker 23: and fixed this problem. We're really at the back of
• 43:43
  Speaker 23: the pack in beating inflation, and that means we're stuck
• 43:47
  Speaker 23: with interest rates higher for longer.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's the surprising thing about what the Reserve
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Bank governor has said today, because we saw the dramatic
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: fall in the sheer market yesterday, and of course the
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Friday Priests eating it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So you're starting to get.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: People talking about, you know, sort of economic strife even
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: recession in the future, and that's the environment.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Normally you'd be looking to.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Cut rates, So rates on hold for today, but the
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor is saying that they're going to stay
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: at this level for a long while. She's saying we
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be expecting inter straight cut anytime soon.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Is that concerning.
• 44:22
  Speaker 23: Well, she's making the point that you've got to beat
• 44:25
  Speaker 23: inflation first, and this is the real problem we've got
• 44:28
  Speaker 23: ourselves into now, and that's why the government I think
• 44:31
  Speaker 23: has had it completely wrong. If you can't beat inflation,
• 44:35
  Speaker 23: that has to be your obsessive focus. But we're really
• 44:39
  Speaker 23: got problems now on two fronts. We've also got economic
• 44:42
  Speaker 23: growth problems with our household recession five quarters where GDP
• 44:46
  Speaker 23: pa capita hasn't gone forward, and so having not beaten
• 44:51
  Speaker 23: inflation and being really at the back of the pack
• 44:54
  Speaker 23: compared to other countries around the world in beating inflation,
• 44:57
  Speaker 23: we've got a very serious problem in this country. It
• 45:01
  Speaker 23: does mean interest rates being higher for longer, but it
• 45:03
  Speaker 23: also means we've seen more business insolvencies. Households are really
• 45:07
  Speaker 23: struggling to make ends meet, and we've seen increases in
• 45:10
  Speaker 23: unemployment and a forecast from the Reserve Bank that will
• 45:14
  Speaker 23: continue to see further rises in unemployment in the coming months.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Can we dodge a recession?
• 45:22
  Speaker 23: Well, look, a hard landing, you've got to say in
• 45:25
  Speaker 23: the United States is looking far more likely than it
• 45:28
  Speaker 23: was forty eight hours ago, and that will obviously have
• 45:31
  Speaker 23: an impact on us. If the government had beaten inflation already,
• 45:37
  Speaker 23: then we'd be in a position where we could work
• 45:39
  Speaker 23: harder on avoiding a recession. But we're not in that position.
• 45:43
  Speaker 23: We're stuck with this higher for longer the forecasts have
• 45:47
  Speaker 23: gone up. The other thing the Reserve Bank has said
• 45:50
  Speaker 23: is that government spending is contributing to the problem. We
• 45:54
  Speaker 23: know that is absolutely right since they put out their
• 45:57
  Speaker 23: last forecast before the budget. They've had to adjust them
• 46:00
  Speaker 23: since the budget, which has spending growth at sixteen percent
• 46:03
  Speaker 23: in the next two years. There's not many households that
• 46:06
  Speaker 23: can increase their spending at sixteen percent over the next
• 46:08
  Speaker 23: two years. It's way too fast for the inflation we're facing,
• 46:12
  Speaker 23: and the result is the Reserve Bank is left having
• 46:15
  Speaker 23: to obsessively focus on bringing that inflation down with a
• 46:18
  Speaker 23: lot of pain for Australians.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of worry here because a lot
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of people are feeling mortgage stress already. They're being told
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: today you can forget about getting mortgage relief for perhaps
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: a year now, when people were thinking it might only
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: be a few months away. Of course, the other factors
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: in cost of living continue to escalate, power prices especially,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: and we face a federal election next year.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It will certainly be next year now.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: There's no way known labor could bring it on before
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the end of this year, you would think, and they
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: need to rain in their spending and they'll find that
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: hard and they lead up to an election.
• 46:53
  Speaker 23: Well, we know how to beat inflation, Chris. This is
• 46:56
  Speaker 23: the point. This is harme growing inflation. Our domestic inflation
• 46:59
  Speaker 23: is running it over three times imported inflation. That the
• 47:04
  Speaker 23: Reserve Bank governor has made that point, and it has
• 47:06
  Speaker 23: made the point that our own spending, as I said,
• 47:08
  Speaker 23: is contributing to that inflation. But we know how to
• 47:10
  Speaker 23: beat it. You've got to get back to basics. We
• 47:12
  Speaker 23: saw that in the seventies and the eighties when we
• 47:14
  Speaker 23: did beat inflation. Both sides of politics played a role
• 47:19
  Speaker 23: in beating that inflation, and that means raining in government spending,
• 47:22
  Speaker 23: just as households are having to make ends meet. Right now,
• 47:26
  Speaker 23: governments should not spending money on unnecessary things like grants
• 47:30
  Speaker 23: to the CFMEU, like spin units inside the Treasurer's department.
• 47:35
  Speaker 23: But it also means making sure your population growth is
• 47:37
  Speaker 23: in line with your housing growth, and that certainly hasn't
• 47:40
  Speaker 23: been the case over the last two years, with population
• 47:42
  Speaker 23: growth of over one point two million people in just
• 47:46
  Speaker 23: two years. I mean, these are the things contributing to
• 47:49
  Speaker 23: inflation which is far from beaten at the same time
• 47:53
  Speaker 23: as our economy has been going backwards in GDP per
• 47:56
  Speaker 23: capita terms, and more pain that seems in the pipeline
• 48:01
  Speaker 23: for hard working families as a result of what we saw.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Today just away from the economy, but it relates to immigration.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Of course, we're seeing an outbreak of social division in
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the UK, people hard right people protesting against immigrants, Muslim
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: groups hitting back against that, a real fracturing in society.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of that tension here in Australia,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: with ugly protests directed at the Jewish Australian community.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: There are real pressures here. How worried.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Are you about social cohesion in Australia and are we
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: seeing enough strength from the government to stamp out the extremism.
• 48:38
  Speaker 23: Well, of course Australia has been remarkable in avoiding some
• 48:42
  Speaker 23: of that division that you've described historically, Chris. But that's
• 48:46
  Speaker 23: because we've had a culture and a focus on making
• 48:50
  Speaker 23: sure we didn't bring the disputes from other parts of
• 48:52
  Speaker 23: the world here to Australia. And of course that means
• 48:55
  Speaker 23: the government has to condemn those that sort of behavior equivocally, unequivocally,
• 49:02
  Speaker 23: without ambiguity. We've seen a lot of ambiguity from this
• 49:05
  Speaker 23: government in relation to what's going on in the Middle East,
• 49:08
  Speaker 23: in Gaza and with Israel, and we are seeing anti
• 49:12
  Speaker 23: Semitism around Australia on a scale we haven't seen before
• 49:16
  Speaker 23: and it's completely unacceptable and it needs to be called out.
• 49:19
  Speaker 23: The government needs to be unambiguous on that and most
• 49:23
  Speaker 23: importantly say we don't stand for the disputes from other
• 49:26
  Speaker 23: parts of the world coming here to Australia and we
• 49:29
  Speaker 23: are above that. We have been as a country and
• 49:32
  Speaker 23: I certainly want to see it stay that way.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Chris. Indeed, thanks for joining us Angus Taylor.
• 49:38
  Speaker 23: Good to be with you, Chris.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got time to share some of your
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: feedback from what I had to say last night on
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the increase in Australia's terror threat level and the strains
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: on social cohesion in Australia. One viewer says, pay attention, labor,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: this is a vote deciding issue, and another viewer says,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: look to the UK today, that's Australia's future. Yeah, that
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: is a fear, and Ai says, thank you for telling
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the truth. There is no equivalence for other communities. This
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: government is simply pathetic. And finally, Rob says, this government
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: is as weak as I'll let you fill in the blank.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Indeed, I think we know what you mean. Thanks for
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: joining me. Peter's up next.