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Titans x Browns: Game Reactions - Just Fire Everyone Now - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 12/7/25 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

0:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Dog's Podcast with your hosts, Lake Renaker, Justin Charles, and Josh All.
0:18
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, Browns fans?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to a heartbreaking episode of the Dog's Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming to you live on wherever you're watching this Facebook, YouTube, wherever else it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right now it's been a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If, you know, welcome back to anybody who is with us while we were doing the live stream during the game, despite the outcome of the game, that was a lot of fun.
0:42
[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you guys being there with us for the entire game.
0:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You're including our crash out at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, including, especially mine, I really want to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I crashed out hard.
0:51
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys should have heard the intermission.
0:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just tough, tough, tough day for to be a Cleveland Browns fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we get for Penn and our sports dreams hopes on the Browns to save the weekend after what was a rough sports weekend.
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1:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it'll happen in season, but this game sealed the fate.
1:56
[SPEAKER_01]: This game, everybody's getting fired, and I don't care anymore.
2:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear another word about keep Jim Schwarz, the defense is elite, get out of here.
2:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear anymore.
2:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about how Tommy Reese is an up and coming whiz kid, no, and I'm
2:14
[SPEAKER_01]: The Kevin thing I've been is about a pro Kevin supporters.
2:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You can be just get just be done.
2:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all done because all three phases of this game sucked at some point today that cost us the game.
2:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You had a freaking pump block.
2:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You gave up a super long kick return just to start the game.
2:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
2:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You had a pump block.
2:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Your defense.
2:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You only gave up 117 yards passing that sounds great.
2:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You gave up 161 rushing yards
2:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He averaged six and a half yards a carry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You gave up 184 rushing yards.
2:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't stop a nose bleed.
2:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to be an elite dee.
2:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The Titans averaged 14 points a game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a worse offense than your Cleveland Browns.
3:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
3:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And you gave up 31 points.
3:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't stop a nose bleed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All three phases were terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the offense was future in the third quarter.
3:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And we played 30 minutes.
3:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They played a great second quarter, and they were great in the fourth quarter.
3:16
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't put 60 minutes together.
3:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, you can't run the ball.
3:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoulder Sanders, you're leading Russia with three carries for 29 yards.
3:23
[SPEAKER_01]: For Kemport, Quinshawn, Juddkins is 1.9 yards per carry.
3:29
[SPEAKER_01]: 14 carries for 26 yards.
3:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's with a long a 14.
3:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
3:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So you had 13 carries for 12 yards on his other ones.
3:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Is my math right there that I'm math right 14 to 26.
3:42
[SPEAKER_01]: No 13 carries for 18 yards.
3:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It sucks.
3:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, not good.
3:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't good, brother.
3:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm too worked out to do mental.
3:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, you're fine.
3:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Just
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[SPEAKER_01]: not winning in lost in all that.
3:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, the Titans are one in 11.
3:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
4:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
4:00
[SPEAKER_01]: About the only, there's two things that I can take from this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two good things.
4:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Miles got a sack.
4:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were on record watch today.
4:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
4:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Titans give a four sacks a game.
4:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but he got one and we let, they took the training wheels off Shoulder for two or the four quarters today and we saw them play real well.
4:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
4:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, outside of the pick was bad and it led to seven immediate points because our defense is front runners.
4:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But without watching tape to see what he meant, he couldn't have missed much.
4:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they mean because I mean he threw for 300 yards four touchdowns at three touchdowns and rushed for it touchdown So he could have left watch on the field, but you know, it's hard to give like a definitive grade when you you haven't watched like the all 22 the coaches view Because the TV broadcast you miss so much, but just I mean he played outside of one pass
4:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He was used great for the most more.
5:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one bad sack, you're not even a bad sack, just sack once.
5:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, a grounding penalty where there is nobody really open that maybe he could have thrown it away.
5:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, outside of that, and then he let, we were down two scores for four minutes ago, and the dudes come, you know, no, he's not razzled at all, and leads two touchdown drives in four minutes to give us a chance to win the game.
5:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Should be in freaking over time right now.
5:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, we'll get to that, but, um,
5:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I thought, I thought what you saw to should do or today, you have to be extreme, it wasn't perfect, but you have to be like extremely optimistic about what you saw.
5:42
[SPEAKER_02]: First rookie quarterback to win his first ever start in Cleveland Brown's history since 1995, since we came back and everything, so that was the Raiders game today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First rookie quarterback to throw for 300 yards.
5:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, four touchdowns.
5:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
5:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three three passing and one rushing heat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He showed what he can do on the ground to today.
6:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Just absolutely tough.
6:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we're live, so I do need to put a little caveat out there.
6:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I hit go live before I updated my streaming.
6:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got to change what you guys see on the screen here for the chat.
6:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so I have to keep everybody here us this time.
6:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
6:19
[SPEAKER_02]: We can live the whole time, it's just I've got I got to change this now.
6:22
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
6:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see myself on my screen.
6:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering what was going on.
6:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we've been live for four hours.
6:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
6:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We're full on pizza and we're disappointed in the browns.
6:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not thinking correctly, but Josh is fixing this right now.
6:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So apparently we've been live.
6:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We just couldn't see it, but so at least it's good.
6:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't been talking to nobody.
6:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah So I guess before we go, I'm gonna go off on like a bender and talk about everything.
6:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Justin just like
6:49
[SPEAKER_01]: WTF.
6:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
6:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Which part of it?
6:52
[SPEAKER_03]: What WTF part do you want to talk about?
6:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Because why did the Browns go for two?
6:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I, uh, we're not sure yet.
6:58
[SPEAKER_03]: We still haven't really figured that out.
7:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Have we?
7:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Makes no sense.
7:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Some, some guys in the discord were talking about how, um,
7:06
[SPEAKER_01]: when down 14, the coach will go for two, because you know, I fit a two point conversions 50, 50.
7:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't get it on the first time and you're more likely to get it on the second time.
7:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
7:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So then, but if you don't get it on the first time and you're more likely to get it on the second time, you're still just in time.
7:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're still at this good team point.
7:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what another way to be tied is, is it just taking the extra point?
7:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
7:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like when I was defending it at first people were freaking out about why we were going for two and I was like Well, I thought we were done by 15 and I explained that scenario, but I thought we were down 15.
7:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought we needed to at some point anyway So I was like, this is why they're going for it now.
7:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I got it.
7:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the brown spot weird on 50
7:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, can I do it on the show bro can I talk to you about something though while we're on this just I'm still not seen this live are you sure we're live yeah we're live we just go back to our channel you're not okay I'm gonna keep going so
8:13
[SPEAKER_03]: just while we're like going through the like the reasoning of the game and everything right like I'm trying to figure out why we would do these things you're playing at home
8:23
[SPEAKER_03]: you have the momentum because you're driving you I let's say just disregard the second touchdown, but you you get your first touchdown.
8:31
[SPEAKER_03]: You have the momentum.
8:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand going for two.
8:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if your argument was what they're going for two, they want to get the win on the next touchdown.
8:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It still makes no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't.
8:42
[SPEAKER_03]: You have the momentum.
8:43
[SPEAKER_03]: You're at home.
8:44
[SPEAKER_03]: You your quarterback is playing out of his freaking mind.
8:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Send it to overtime.
8:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?
8:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You if thinking overtime, but then again, our defense can't stop anybody.
8:53
[UNKNOWN]: So
8:53
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, even the defense had to get the stop to give us the ball back, and we got bailed out on a legal motion player, whatever it was.
9:02
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have that.
9:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have the volume on the TV turned up so we couldn't hear.
9:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a legal shift or something like that, because they gave up a 20-yard round or something, and then it got called back.
9:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, you had them momentum, and this is what kills me, so even the fact
9:22
[SPEAKER_01]: and didn't get it.
9:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're out here and we have to go for two to tie it up to send it to overtime.
9:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a quarterback who has rushed for a touchdown and thrown for a touchdown all in the last three minutes.
9:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
9:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And you took them off the field.
9:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Again to put in the wild cat and if anybody was watching the live as soon as I saw us in wild cat I said well, this is gonna be the time they it's the rank law of the wild cat, right?
9:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not just gonna run quinchon right up the middle So if my dumb ass he can't even do the mental math about how much we lost by In the in the sitting year in a desk new it was gonna be some kind of wrinkle and not gonna just be quinchon up the middle
10:03
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think the guys who play the game for a living were thinking?
10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They knew it wasn't going to be Quint John Judd kids right up the middle?
10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Quint John didn't even know what the hell was going on though.
10:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He had no clue.
10:13
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
10:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand how you hear the play call on the Hadojai.
10:16
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the reverse and then you just forget the reverse part.
10:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And this and then this was my other problem with the call.
10:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So the defense can't, the defense can't stop a nosebleed shorts gone.
10:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't stop a team that scores 14 boys a game, you're gone.
10:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams can't stop a kick or turn and they get a pump block.
10:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Bubba, you're gone.
10:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You went for two for no freaking reason, Kevin, you're gone.
10:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Now there's one coach left.
10:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's our bright up and comer.
10:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants some more of the ones who got him.
10:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We're the lucky ones.
10:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Reese, two-point conversion play.
10:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to ask our rookie running back who hasn't ran a reverse.
10:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Has that a toss on a reverse?
10:53
[SPEAKER_01]: One time this year and who's he tossing it to or not tossing it to practice quad gauge larva game?
11:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing it eight yards behind the line of scrimmage.
11:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a two point conversion from the two, and it is now a 12-yard jet sweep to gauge larry day, and if Quinschon would have remembered to toss it to him.
11:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you came up with.
11:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Your two point conversion play is a reverse to the practice squad wide receiver.
11:22
[SPEAKER_01]: When you got your hopefully franchise quarterback who's got four freaking touchdowns, sitting on the bench,
11:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate it.
11:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate it.
11:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gone.
11:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate it.
11:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We're over four-year-old gone.
11:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been the biggest supporter of stability and of Kevin.
11:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all gone now.
11:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gone.
11:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to single one of these coaches on the staff.
11:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, me either, man.
11:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We were laughin' during the life because as they show their replay and come and shun.
11:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Runs with the ball, right past Larpa, Dan runs by him, going age-free.
11:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Runs up in the air, like dude.
11:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't flip me the ball.
12:00
[SPEAKER_02]: This, which has no shit, I think you're going to try to flip it all the way, it has to be on.
12:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a freaking clown show man, it's the race.
12:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It is pure comedy gold what we watched with the Cleveland Browns.
12:13
[SPEAKER_02]: This team is terrible.
12:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we let the game get away from us in the third quarter in the first place because you took all the momentum into half time.
12:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you came out of half time and you had the ball first and you said, we're going to run the ball freaking five times in a row.
12:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not going to throw it.
12:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It went run, run, run.
12:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I think run.
12:34
[SPEAKER_01]: and then that got stuffed.
12:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no kidding.
12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You ran the same play four times in a row.
12:41
[SPEAKER_01]: When you ran it three times in a row on the first drive out of half, and we ran the ball well, why then went first down, easiest down to throw on, play action to take your shot on first.
12:54
[SPEAKER_01]: no instead you ran it now it's second and ten and then we ran a pass play not it wasn't even a play action and it's I think it was like the out-of-bounce pass to Cedric Tillman and now it's third and ten the play calling was awful yep the play calling was awful it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it
13:13
[SPEAKER_01]: They went, they were like, oh, Shodor's got all this momentum.
13:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we go into halftime and just come out and go right back to like the first quarter game plan.
13:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Hand off, hand off, hand off, and then what happened in the fourth quarter and we're down two scores and you're forced to open it up and let them play, we forget score two touchdowns in four minutes and it should have been over time.
13:31
[SPEAKER_01]: What's a kid play?
13:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Christ.
13:34
[SPEAKER_01]: No more wild cat if he can't do it.
13:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He can't do it Right, but he's let him go a quick hand hand cuffing him and what's the risk here?
13:41
[SPEAKER_03]: What are we risking at the end of the day like you will say exactly who gives a shit none of this matters Put him out there.
13:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I would he would be in on every play.
13:50
[SPEAKER_02]: We would not be doing wild cat and I don't understand how the
13:54
[SPEAKER_02]: rookie running back jet sweep reverse to the practice squad receiver is somehow a better or safer more guaranteed play to get you two points than letting Shador go to run a play right you got we've talked about this during the live you got hero fan you got David and Jogi guys said you got big body guys down there if you're going to throw the ball
14:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Hill, he had a touchdown pass from the freaking three yard lines today.
14:15
[SPEAKER_02]: A nice one.
14:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
14:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I, there's so many things you can do and that's what they chose to do.
14:23
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they, that's what they called.
14:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, everybody's got to go in everybody.
14:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We should be having such a different conversation right now.
14:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You had to, we just had our rookie quarterback throw for 364 yards in three touchdowns, ran for another touchdown, had 29 yards rushing.
14:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Miles Garrett got his sack.
14:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We should be talking about how Miles is only a few sex away from breaking the record.
14:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoulder had almost 400 yards passing, and we got the dub.
14:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
14:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And just this poor decision after poor decision, after poor decision we're sitting here doing this.
14:54
[SPEAKER_01]: it's awful.
14:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Only in Cleveland.
14:57
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14:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been here for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a rollercoaster game.
16:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So turnovers didn't lose this game.
16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They just hurt the pick sucked.
16:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I was pissed after it because that's the kind of play that I want to see growth from.
16:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was literally like his only bad play of the game.
16:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a third game rookie quarterback who is in his first month of preparing as a starter.
17:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The pump block, the pump block to me is more inexcusable than the pick for sure.
17:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, absolutely.
17:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Not be hard to just get the pump off.
17:11
[SPEAKER_01]: a simple play.
17:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That punt was blocked so early.
17:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I joked in the live.
17:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy almost could have caught the drop from glory.
17:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, well, there for him to be able to block the punt.
17:26
[SPEAKER_01]: How is that possible?
17:28
[SPEAKER_01]: How is your punch scheme so bad that they get a free runner without getting
17:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then and I haven't even hardly talked about how piss poor the defense was.
17:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about it in a second But I do want to say on that interception I know people are going to people that don't like shit or and there's there's a Couple different factions of people out there's people that love him no matter what he does That's like his hardcore supporters people that hate him no matter what he does those are the hardcore haters
17:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's Browns fans like us who just want to see the Browns have a quarterback that can win ball games.
18:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I saw was a third start from a rookie late in the season, by the way, didn't start in the beginning, didn't have training camp in preseason, no less stuff to get fine tuned up.
18:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He's learning on the fly throws one bad interception, they go down his score, they're winning the game.
18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: He leads us back.
18:16
[SPEAKER_02]: to tie up the freaking game moronic coaching decisions and bad defense and bad special teams cost us that game.
18:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Very moronic coaching decisions in the end cost us because that should have been a tie game all over time.
18:28
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy says he had more than one bad play.
18:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say he played a perfect game.
18:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He played winning football though outside of one play.
18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: and after the pick he could have crawled into a shell and instead he scored two touchdowns in the final four minutes of the game.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He played winning football in a defense that couldn't stop Tony freaking Paulard, a special team that can't get a punt off in a coaching staff that went for two for God knows what reason in a play call.
18:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's maybe the worst two-point conversion play call I've ever seen in my life.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking all in between the lives.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You would think on your coaching sheet on your play sheet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a handful of plays that are basically guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: These are different centers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are guaranteed.
19:15
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the, you only got a couple of them, but these are like the guaranteed plays that work.
19:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And we've run them so many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These guys know what they're doing.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
19:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you run a play, nobody was falling for the reverse, even if you would have pitched it, I'd have to go back and watch the play again and see like, even if he pitches it, is it open?
19:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, that's because I would almost bet, he almost ended up being almost in an interception.
19:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So there was somebody waiting over there for the ball to come in.
19:44
[SPEAKER_02]: As the play was unfolding, I'm sitting here and like, oh, I can't believe they're running and just like a sweep with him.
19:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is not gonna work.
19:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I can't believe this is the play, and then he goes and tries to flip it to the library.
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I can't believe that was the play.
19:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Or like, if you're having a larvae in reverse, I would have had like a backside guy on a route.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody thinks it's the reverse.
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He threw something.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, here comes the rinkle.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the worst wrinkle I've ever seen.
20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That was terrible.
20:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a people say it's a junior high offense.
20:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most junior high play I've ever seen this run.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I say simple, just reverse.
20:19
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the freaking NFL.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the win a game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two point conversion play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're running just a simple reverse.
20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: To the guy who was on the practice squad five weeks ago.
20:32
[SPEAKER_02]: and he didn't even get it because you're running back for got to pitch it yeah it's been crazy got a super chat from a green me i i'm sorry uh i'm not saying that right mucy greatness
20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, greatness.
20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see the eight.
20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: First rookie ever two touchdowns passing actually had three one touchdown rushing rushing over three hundred yards finished with three sixty five three.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Three TD one rushing.
20:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so screwed.
20:57
[SPEAKER_02]: How can you complain about the quarterback today?
20:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bringing a pass.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You're rating a 97.7.
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You only took two sex for 13.
21:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just lose when they're quarterback throws for three sixty five and three.
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: The Brown and brushes for one.
21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Heems don't lose those.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, let's put this into perspective three to one touched on it in a section where you show.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he did this every single game, he'd be freaking 60 touchdowns in 16 picks.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: What would you would you take 30, 10 at the end of the season?
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: 100.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, hey, I already told you, you can't, you can't just dangle the dollars in front of me.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: if that watch party who you should have been there it was fun yes we had a good time oh man so i meant it for Blake i know who you meant it for just just a just a
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: fireball fence on all fronts.
21:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you've been watching this show for a while, you know, I've been like team.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's not all on coaching.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We have bad players.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: This, this was about as big of a coaching loss as I can, since I watched the Ohio State Game last night.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It ain't been 24 hours yet, boy, yes.
22:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's why I'm so worked up today.
22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about how I can watch the Browns lose and I feel nothing, but the pain of the buck guy's loss and from the poor coaching in that game still fresh on my mind, then I had to turn around and watch this less than 24 hours later.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, this was supposed to be, and I don't care where I'm just saying this was supposed to be a win.
22:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you have the top rated defense in the NFL.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wants to call you elite.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys puff out your chest.
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: We're elite defense all this bullshit.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You're at home.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We're the off a dog.
22:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Shit brown jerseys and helmets.
22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is how you play.
22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: What a freak, the joke rates itself with this team.
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, they average 14 points of game.
22:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, the Titans, 14 points of game this year.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they have.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And in, in, in, leave it to the offense to make it all about themselves there at the end.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We could be spending this time talking about how bad the defense is.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And how I've been saying for two months now, that Jim Schwartz gets a pass on this team because the offense isn't any good.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow, wake up people.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The defense is toast.
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, you gotta get rid of him.
23:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The defense is toast.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We lost one player to injury, and all of a sudden, we give up eight yards of carry.
23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: God, and that player wasn't miles geared, by the way.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: it was unbelievable you gave up a hundred sixty four rushing yards twenty twenty-pollard has done absolutely nothing this year correct yes i don't know if these are updated stats to include today's game but if they are
23:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, 582 rushing yards, are you on ESPN?
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's aren't updated.
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he had 582 rushing yards coming into today's game.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Does he had a hundred yard game yet this year?
24:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
24:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me look.
24:04
[SPEAKER_02]: As a fantasy manager, I would say he probably doesn't know.
24:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me look.
24:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me look.
24:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Is he gonna get a first?
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta go game by game.
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You can talk, here we go.
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: 1692, 45, 64, 66.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: No, and he's been on such a street close to two is last month Or his last like six games how many one two three give it five six.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I benched in today I was in process right seven games
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had 18 yards, 44 yards, 56 yards, 22 yards, 20 yards, 60 yards, 161.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess who he had, the 161 again.
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like who was it?
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cleveland Browns.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They're a rest in them up, man.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: The greatest defense you ever seen.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: This dude averages 3.9 yards per carry and that's including today because after today's stats.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So before today, where you average 6.4, this dude's probably averaging about 3 yards a carry today this year.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not been good.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Not at all.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Did 18 yards in a game this season?
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And we give it by 161 rushing yards to him.
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And just, it didn't stop.
25:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The only reason we got the stop we're even in the position to score what should have been the game tying touchdown was because of an illegal motion penalty.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They gave up the first down and some.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Just terrible.
25:38
[SPEAKER_01]: How many times did we sack ward?
25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I know once, once, one time.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: The most sacked quarterback in the entire league this year, the team that gives up the more sacks than anybody else.
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one time.
25:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You're playing at home.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
25:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Inexcusable.
25:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's inexx.
25:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So I looked at you guys during the game in the fourth quarter.
25:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I think it's crazy that Tennessee's has the defense that has its years been back.
26:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're sending everybody.
26:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was all that was discussed, heading into it.
26:10
[SPEAKER_03]: We should be able to
26:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Should be able to have a great game, as far as the defense, you know?
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: The stat, that bit a little bit.
26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my thing too, is like we had the pick and we had the block punch, shouldn't have mattered.
26:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they shouldn't have 30 points.
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if they scored off the punt and the pick, and then I'm willing to give them another touch fleet touchdown, I like to say they're opening scripted drive, that's 21 points.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We still should have won the game.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you giving up so many points to Titan?
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a 14-game.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And they went through like a hot knife through butter.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, game.
26:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
26:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So remember how this game started.
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Special teams gave up the we kicked off to them to open the game.
26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They returned to the 50 R line.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, right?
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we let them go down the field.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: 8 plays, 53 R. So it was 47.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: What are 53 R's touchdown?
26:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We go three plays and negative eight yards punt.
27:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they throw a pick.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We kick field goal and then they go one play 65 yard rush by Tony Pollard for a touchdown 14 to three.
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: boom, it's not even the second quarter yet, like, what did you, I was kind of blacked out.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you mention the pun that only got, we punded, oh yeah, yeah, I didn't say that.
27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So they returned it to the 45.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So we punded out of our own ends on that draft first visit.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Their first two possessions started at like the 50 and the 46.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they got their first kick return went to the 50. ours went to the 15.
27:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We suck and then we lost yards.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, lost yards.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Punted out of our own end zone and that it was only like a 40 yard punt.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They started like the 46 yard line.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Their first two drives were basically in our own territory.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and on the second drive, they threw a pick.
27:46
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when he threw his interception.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: We took it down.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Got a field goal.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That was cool.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was as soon as we got that field goal.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The next play, their first play on offense 65 yard touchdown run.
27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They're an un-serious football team.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they're just so bad.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I can't wait to hear some of the, I've got to hear, I want to hear the post game.
28:09
[SPEAKER_03]: The post games, does this?
28:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
28:11
[SPEAKER_03]: The interviews?
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I need some, I need some rationale.
28:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I need it.
28:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I need, I'm under the end.
28:17
[SPEAKER_02]: If he has the set already, he's going to say, I understand the question.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: We just need to take a look at it.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: We think we put the guys in the right position.
28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll, we'll get the work and get it fixed.
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It says every time.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Right spot is we played against the number one pick in the draft this year and our quarterback out played him by a ton Yeah, big time out played him.
28:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course Can't more didn't really need to do anything because all they had to do was run the ball.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, to do is turn around and hand it off But I mean still should or say I mean That's I mean that's a huge brace spot for me him and oh, yeah, I mean you got to look at Harold fanon because You know, I've been talking about Harold fanon pretty much every episode that I ever do
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: mentioning him eight for one fourteen and touchdown.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean he's putting up wide receiver one type of production for this team.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the tight end.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a rookie tight end.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's insane.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Just unbelievable.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy said it's not hard to put up numbers against the worst team in football They knew flash war the worst team Yeah, people said that about the Raiders like oh, yeah, it was just the Raiders and you said we're just the Brown Yeah, well, I don't know if you guys heard about this, but we only have three wins.
29:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like what makes us so much Superior to the Titans who just whipped our ass basically.
29:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it was close But it really I mean only at the end was it close.
29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they were beating us not out of us for a while
29:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Just on 28 to 14, we go for two after a touchdown.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoulders own one versus ward and the worst team in football.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's more like ward is one and oh, and he got against not the best defense in football.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he got his way to get the worst team in football.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're the worst team in the league.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no way we figure out ways to lose better than anybody, oh, yeah.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the thing we are the best at.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We are so good if you're not a way to lose.
30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't convince me that if we don't just kick
30:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't end and go down and kick their, and we had to over time that we don't win.
30:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
30:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That we don't win.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That we had all the momentum.
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: All the momentum.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: The only way we lose that game is because it was tied and we're over time.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We would have crawled back into our shell and gone conservative again.
30:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Or they started with the ball handed off the tiny baller for a 60 hour touchdown.
30:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Every time we got down, so they were forced to open it up, the offense looked better.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: We were down in the second quarter, so they had to open it up and let them play a little bit before the half.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We go down and score and touchdown.
30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Crawled in our shell in the third quarter, right back to making them hold the handle ball off every time again, has a bad pick in the third quarter, has to open it back up because we're down two scores in the fourth.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Look great.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You can go down and score two touchdowns.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Let the kid play.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said at the beginning of this you have just let him go out there and run around and play and do what he does and if it's bad Then it's bad and at least we know it's bad and if it's good then that's great.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep Well, what good does these game everything about it is stupid.
31:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah You're Jesus.
31:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know It's frustrating.
31:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It's super frustrating
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Good thing, like we said, Miles got a sack, so he's three sacks away from breaking the record two and a half from away from tying it.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's basically, yeah, outside of the corridor.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Inchador and played great.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I mean, like can we can we get some blocking for Quintchon Juggkins?
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The kid is a good running back.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably has a potential to be a great running back.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: his yards for carry is like three two and a half because we can't block a soul it's getting hit in the backfield.
31:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had no push.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like I said, the only running back who's had it worse than him in terms of getting hit behind the line of scrimmage is Ashton Gentie.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Gentie.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, if I was him, I'd be requesting a trade.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw like his yards.
32:12
[SPEAKER_01]: before first contact or something is like negative two.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets hit behind the line and scrimmage on almost every single play.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: In quick shot judge can't be that far.
32:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say, I don't like I can't be a huge huge difference between two.
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33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess a bright spot today was Jerry Judy at three catches for 70, 60 yards in a touchdown.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: 60 of that came on one play, which was a great play.
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, two up, let's see here, three of our top four leading receivers.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Harold Fayden was our leading receiver with eight
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: five catches for Dylan Samson, one catch for Quinshawn Judkins, because we have no receivers, man.
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, the next receiver, the only other receiver on the roster, there was Cedric Tillman had won for 23, practice squad gauge had two for 18.
34:34
[SPEAKER_01]: David Joku had won catch for one yard and it touched down before going out with injury.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another thing that sucks, hopefully chief is okay.
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Isaiah Barron was just out there doing cardio, zero catches, zero yards.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one target right on that.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Two targets.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
34:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so just, I love how you you call him practice squad games.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to start doing it.
34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I do it like a solo?
35:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to, um, PS gauge, practice squad gauge.
35:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and it's not even like a huge shot against gauge larverdane, but it's just a shot against the team and the roster manager.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the fact that
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That for a chain we're going out to try to tie the game to send it to over time and you got a flip it to the guy who started your season on a practice squad Because you've built such an inept evolved and the guy that took the snap wasn't even on the team Yes, what do you want the team we want on the team for three weeks, yeah?
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hell yeah, just it's just unbelievable that and I've been a guy who's been who's talked so much about how I know it's a two-year rebuild, but you got to win the games that you're supposed to win still.
35:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to beat the Titans and you got to beat the Jets.
35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't expect us to get eight or nine wins this year.
35:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I expected us to get five or six because I thought we would beat the Jets and you got to beat the Titan.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't lose to these teams and you can't lose to them in this manner.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You lost to the jets, the other worst team in football because you give up 14 points in special teams returns for touchdowns.
36:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You lost to the Titans because you had a pump block in your defense, give up 161 rushing yards to a guy at three yards per carry average this season.
36:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Two or one team, one win football.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Two or one win football team.
36:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I like really is like home.
36:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I have the lowest of lowest expectations for this team to be satisfied and to have been okay with bringing everybody back and trying and getting after another good offseason.
36:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't lose to the jets and the Titans.
36:31
[SPEAKER_02]: and not the way they did yes like you said a bit of been like a hard-fought game close game i mean ended up being a close game but you know it like no miss no real stupid mistakes or anything it did they just edged us out or whatever yes okay fine sucks that we lost this was embarrassing like the the majority of this game i know it was a two-point game in the end but it was freaking embarrassed a lot there was moments all game where you were in like you were in bearous once again to be about
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Like people, I always try to put my head in my mind and like the thought process of other fans and other fan bases like just The casual football watchers fancy football players.
37:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, oh, I'm going to Brown's defense against the Tennessee Titans.
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm playing the Brown's defense today.
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoops.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people didn't make the fantasy play out today because sorry you trusted the wrong fucking team and here here's what's really telling to about this team is a site once the ball was kicked
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: at no point in this game did any of us ever think the Browns were going to win.
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were playing we were playing we were playing the 50.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We were playing a one-win team with a they average 14 yards per or 14 points for game.
37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And before the game, we said, this is a game you got to win.
37:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to beat the Titans.
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: This is our most winnable game.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you'd mildly get the sack record.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We can get the win in this game.
37:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And once we kicked off and they returned to the 50,
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you had, you went, this game's over.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You knew we were losing at the kickoff return and you definitely knew it about six plays later when they scored a touchdown.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's telling.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They're one win football team and in no point in this game, did you think we were gonna win?
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's bad, that's bad.
38:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
38:14
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm hanging my head on at least from this game.
38:17
[SPEAKER_02]: As I saw, my rookie quarterback in his third ever start in a very bad situation.
38:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Does defense put him in, as special teams put him in offense, put him in, we got no line.
38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't run the balls.
38:29
[SPEAKER_02]: We're one dimensional.
38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We have nobody to throw the ball to 365 yards, four touchdowns and lead the comeback in the fourth quarter should have been to tie the game to go to overtime.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Head coach made sure that didn't happen.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: This person said miles ripped the browns label off a water bottle to start the presser I don't know if it's true or not.
38:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, I don't want to swear baby.
38:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he did That's awesome.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be like, well, hey, me and your defense was today.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I what I it's all new guys as much as it's on anybody else.
39:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah Oh, it takes a full team effort to lose that bad Yeah
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Just unbelievable, I don't know how many different ways to say it.
39:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching a TV screen over the side.
39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching Miles Garrett on his press conference.
39:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, he definitely is ripping the Browns label off of his water bottle.
39:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he doing it like angrily like super nice?
39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He's standing there listening to a question just like slowly healing the living off the thing.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm waiting to see him take the whole thing off and so far he's trying to get it off.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe he's just playing with it, because he's like, ain't there or something?
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a piss.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Round up.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Shoulder or shock me not gonna lie.
39:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, outside of, outside of the picky play pretty well, like I said, it'll be different.
39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be able to get a better idea of how well he played when you watch the All 22, because you can't tell when you're watching the game, but like I also said, he couldn't have left too much out there.
40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He had four touchdowns.
40:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you can't dunk your weight if they're under 65.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and there's for three hundred and sixty four yards.
40:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, was it perfect?
40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he played winning football.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He played winning football today.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um,
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just imagine having to try to explain that two point conversion in the press to the press.
40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to hear that's where I'm at.
40:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't wait to hear it.
40:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot wait.
40:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I need explanation.
40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I need information.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Just any read.
40:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear the reason why and then once they ask them about the play call, he'll just, he's not going to throw time out of the bus, he'll just be like, oh, we just got to be better.
40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guarantee though that that's not a Tommy only play call.
40:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is this is fourth in the game or you know two down conversion You don't get this you're done right there had to be collaboration on like hey, this is what I want to run okay Let's run that I think that's a good idea.
40:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Tommy has that He's the play call.
40:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He's what I think I think with any any team that offensive coordinate We're probably talked to the head coach say this is what we want to run here and be like cool.
41:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Go for you know like I'm good You got to imagine like
41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess this one says somebody is getting fired.
41:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the kind of thing that you losing this game in the fan bases?
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: if if it's anything like it was here at the dog's podcast studio today the the fan bases not happy done they are done tapped their tapped out i don't i don't think they fire anybody tomorrow but like this was a nail in the coffee this was as soon as as soon as the bengals game is over in week 18 that monday like monday like monday yeah they're gone yeah very black monday nail in the coffee
41:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be time to turn our attention to who they're going to bring in and like I said during the live what sucks is you're we're going to get our fifth option with the with you guys as much as like I want you to be the guy and like today was a huge step forward my opinion
41:55
[SPEAKER_01]: the next head coach is hey you want to come coach and Cleveland we've literally never been good I'm always known as a meddling owner you don't have any real power here um oh by the way you have a quarterback with a 170 million dollar cap hit on the roster this year that we want you to play as a bridge because we paid them so much money
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, your other quarterback should doer.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He comes with a media circus that it might not be his fault, but it's definitely a media circus.
42:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and you need five new offensive linemen and three new starting wide receivers.
42:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to come be the head coach of our football team?
42:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody signing up for that.
42:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So like the guy you're thinking about right now, like I'd love to have him, he's gonna go take the better job.
42:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, for sure.
42:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna go take the better job.
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna end up with our fourth option, our fifth option, and then we'll just be right back here in three years.
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not even using that as an argument to not fire this entire staff because after today I'm just done with it, but just like I just have no faith that we're gonna get the right guy next because no who's gonna come here to this?
42:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is your bridgehead coach?
42:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he'll be here for probably at least two to three years.
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be competitive, you know, some time around my kid's high school graduation.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
43:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, so I'm just watching this, just two, two point conversion play on repeat here.
43:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And I honestly forgot about how the play even ended.
43:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So Quintion Jenkins is running at ours.
43:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You get the ball snap to the two.
43:17
[SPEAKER_02]: He's running at the six.
43:18
[SPEAKER_02]: For gets the pitch the ball, so he runs backwards to the 20, throws the ball across the field to the 10, and it almost gets intercepted.
43:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
43:27
[SPEAKER_02]: If they were, we went from the two to the 20 to the 10.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And you need two yards.
43:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It is correct.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You need two yards.
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember when we were two in the reception.
43:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at his old friend to give.
43:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit, shit, shit, shit.
43:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a joke man, I mean, this team is a joke man, I mean, a joke.
43:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You need a two yards If you need two yards and you find yourself 18 yards further away How crazy is it that we we get upset because they're pulling should or out on on the two pointer
44:10
[SPEAKER_03]: and you know like we're like dang he just you know like when there's pressure he bails out and just kind of rolls out and you know such I can say hey we can we just can't leave the heart quarterback in there and just see what happens yeah we're gonna have juggins throw it across and come on
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you ever, you ever watched those day-shik pal skits?
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Or it's like the dude in the club and all of a sudden, like it freezes and like this is when you realized you fucked up.
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But what keep it real goes wrong?
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what it's like.
44:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's like.
44:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's like.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, scratch freeze from you're probably wondering how I ended up here and it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching, it's quinching
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That can't make that shit up.
44:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that can't make this shit up.
44:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't, that can't be the play call that you came up with.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, even if I can excuse, given up 31 points, and I can excuse, going for two for no frickin' reason.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, your quarter-axe'll put you in a position to tie the game up, and then, then you take them off the field and that's what you draw up.
45:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just unbelievable.
45:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Cliff King carries on the line.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, like, my life, I really like what he's done with the offense and there's coaches that are good coordinators talk about that.
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, but Cliff King's birds literally never been a head coach good.
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
45:32
[SPEAKER_02]: There's people that are just good coordinators at any level.
45:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
45:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He's no.
45:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
45:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And as a dependant, do you want like a who rock guy, a culture guy, a variable guy, or are you looking for an offensive, whiz kid?
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're getting a culture guy, you know what, it helps variable be pretty good.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: McDonald's a pretty good offensive coordinator.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a dog shit, head coach, but he's a pretty good offensive coordinator, right?
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, when you're in your coaching search, like a lot of people are talking at the Steelers Fire, Tomlin, Browns should be on,
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy who hired Arthur Smith.
46:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: All the reasons you hate Kevin that's why Steelers friends hate Tom when the offense is trash He's that he's got bad game management.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He makes poor in game decisions like you'd have to if you're bringing in a guy like Tom and you're forcing him to bring in Like a young innovative offense according to you.
46:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not letting them bring freakin' Arthur Smith You know, so it's like there's just big like what what do you want?
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we talked about this in the live even if should door Place pretty well.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a good chance if it's an entire new regime.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna want their guy
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: There or should or be on the shortest of short leashes next year, playing basically looking over his shoulder.
46:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Depending on how these last four games go, because they were like today, if they built off of what he did today.
46:53
[SPEAKER_02]: It might be more attractive for a coach come in and be like the kid looked really good.
46:57
[SPEAKER_02]: This is true.
46:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know but today was I really liked what I saw today It was I know there were some moments.
47:02
[SPEAKER_02]: There were some ups and downs, but when it mattered and when we needed it He got it done.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: My problem is is you give me what I've games like this be or we're gonna continue to call plays with you know One hand tied behind his back.
47:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna keep taking him out in the freaking inside the five
47:18
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47:21
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47:23
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47:27
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47:28
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47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Show great progression with each game.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, yes, I mean, even if he messed up today, which we will know better when you get to watch film.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's still, he outside of one bad interception was pretty darn good today.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't luck your way into 364 and 4 touchdowns.
48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't.
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I, I understand the Titans aren't a good football team, but we're a bad football team.
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only do we have a terrible offensive line, he didn't even have his bad starters.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He had his back starter's back ups on the entire right side of the offensive light and he all set her starting center in the second half of this game.
48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and he's throwing to a rookie Harold Fanon and nobody anything that Shidorah Sanders does in a game does not matter who the opponent is.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it matters who he's working with on our side, which is nothing.
48:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: higher shorts as the head coach to watch the defense today.
48:41
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
48:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Any time we play any innovative offensive coordinator or anybody not at home or just no.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch just Eric B enemy.
48:54
[SPEAKER_02]: No, the biggest thing I know we can talk about coaches.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have plenty time to do that in the offseason guys because like we said, probably not fire and anybody tomorrow.
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: There's four games left.
49:05
[SPEAKER_02]: This team doesn't really fire coaches midseason.
49:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they did it with Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley way back in 2018, but and it's like, what good does it do to fire them now with four games left?
49:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, unless you unless there's somebody you want to audition on your staff for four games, which I don't think there is.
49:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Just you're going to we're going to ride this up and another thing about the decision making today it really makes me go back in my head and wonder what were we thinking last week on that fourth and one on our own 33 and with the play call like what are we doing.
49:39
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's the crazy thing though man is we've been saying that for a long time Yes, years how many times do you Harrison Bryant how many times did Harrison Bryant come slap running over on a fourth and one We'd be like oh god.
49:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, here we go
49:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for a few sneak cue trick play.
49:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
49:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been we've been a poor fourth down play execution right.
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll do like we'll do like a handoff to Tilman hook a tackle for three yard loss and all that kind of shit.
50:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nobody blocks on the edge.
50:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Just terrible.
50:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But well,
50:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We wrap it up.
50:15
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50:17
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50:22
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50:23
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50:24
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50:25
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50:26
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50:30
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50:33
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50:36
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51:00
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