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IAAI Town Meeting: The Only Emmy Winning Episode of Gilmore Girls (Season 4 E7 “The Festival of Living Art) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am All in again. Oh that's you. I Am
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  Speaker 1: All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara suit
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  Speaker 1: An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back another episode of
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  Speaker 1: I'm All in Town meeting with myself, Tara and Suzanne. Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: good morning. We were recording early this morning. I know
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about Season four, episode seven,
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  Speaker 1: Festival of Living Art, which aired on November fourth, two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and three. Isn't this the episode the only episode
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  Speaker 1: that Gilmour was nominated for an Emmy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I think they were nominated, but this is
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  Speaker 2: the only only episode that one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh one got it? Okay, Yeah, which I okay, I
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  Speaker 1: understand why they won, because really it was the makeup
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  Speaker 1: and costuming of this episode is insane. Yeah, But knowing
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  Speaker 1: that and watching it back, I was like the episode
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  Speaker 1: itself was finem you know what I mean. Like, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like I understand because they won for hair and makeup, right, yes, yeah, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because it's just such a big episode and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: so fun. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: But in my head, I was like, of all the
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  Speaker 1: episodes to win, Yeah, if you're thinking of it as
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  Speaker 1: an episode, it's not like that. It's a stand up
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  Speaker 1: because of the art of it exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Like the plot and the storylines not particularly compelling. It's
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  Speaker 2: definitely about like the festival and the visual and.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first time I thought about it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. And this is so for
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  Speaker 2: people that don't know. This episode was based on an
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  Speaker 2: actual event. There is the Pageant of the Masters in
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  Speaker 2: every year, so this is actually a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: So that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been.
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  Speaker 1: But you also, I was wondering, I'm like, how do
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  Speaker 1: they learn to do their makeup? Because Lorla at one
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  Speaker 1: point like touching herself up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some inconsistencies there because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: when the early backstage scenes where most people are ready,
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  Speaker 2: Lorela hasn't even started her makeup yet, right, and then seemingly, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fifteen twenty minutes later, she's already done. Like
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like she would be able to get
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  Speaker 2: it done that quickly and like you say, on herself. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. So they took some liberties there, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was just funny of the constant like
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  Speaker 1: referral back to like, oh, she flinched, but then like
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  Speaker 1: finally Loura admitted the I wish you kind of admitted
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  Speaker 1: it early on, Yeah, because Rory didn't even I think
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  Speaker 1: it would have been funnier if she's like, oh my god, Rory,
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  Speaker 1: they knew, they saw it, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that Rory like didn't even know and she's
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  Speaker 1: like you did or whatever she's said, Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess there was a clown pillow in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, in the middle of the night when Suki shows up. Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of the Suki storyline of the
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  Speaker 1: Bruce and all that I do?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I could kind of see Suki doing
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  Speaker 2: something like a home birth.
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  Speaker 1: They stressed me out too much for a home birth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I that's not something I did, but I had
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  Speaker 2: friends that did it and like it turned out fine.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it could go either way. I guess
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  Speaker 2: it would depend on how far you were from the hospital,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, something goes wrong and you need to be transported.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do that if I was.
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  Speaker 1: I have two friends who wanted to do homebirths, and
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  Speaker 1: both of them ended up going to the hospital. You
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean probably most of the time it's just fine,
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  Speaker 2: but you never know, like statistically, if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be one of those people and you know, for the
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  Speaker 2: next one, she doesn't have a home, she's in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Right right right. My cousin who just had twins in December,
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  Speaker 1: she was twins. Usually they come early. She was she
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  Speaker 1: made it full term and she had a scheduled sea section. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: like those babies did not want to come out.
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  Speaker 2: That is pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So but in my head, I was like, when
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  Speaker 1: I was watching this something, I'm like, I could not
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  Speaker 1: imagine my cousin doing a home birth. She literally would
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  Speaker 1: be like I mean also with twins, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: think you can, can.
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  Speaker 2: You you know, I don't know, I never I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like most twins you have ce sections anyways.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, but I don't know. I thought Bruce, I
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  Speaker 2: thought she kind of gave midwives a bad name. Like
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  Speaker 2: the midwives that I know are very like, yes, full
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  Speaker 2: kind people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so my midwife too, and she's like the kindest
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  Speaker 1: soul ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's kind of their vibe. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: she was she was a little intense, but Nick Offerman
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  Speaker 2: was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I also just didn't care for
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  Speaker 1: that character. I kind of liked the concept of like
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  Speaker 1: the storyline, like I like the storyline, but yeah, the character.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, she got a bugs and she's
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  Speaker 1: in that next one too, so yeah, it like rolled over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she very she I don't know. She was
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  Speaker 2: complaining about the anti midwife vibe, but then she's like
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  Speaker 2: giving off this like mean uncomfortable vibe herself.
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  Speaker 1: A boot camp for pregnancy.
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  Speaker 2: There was not a lot of self awareness there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is the first time that we see Gil
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  Speaker 1: on the show, which I was like, oh wow, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize he's in, like for his first episode is
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  Speaker 1: Festival of Living Art.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I remember that just because I remember him being
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  Speaker 2: at the actual festival.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, because he watches on the side, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's like.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a flyer, so I came by. I love
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  Speaker 2: Gil's character. I think he's just hilarious, and I think
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  Speaker 2: Zach was so mean to him. I mean, Zach is
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  Speaker 2: just kind of a jerk at this point anyways, Like
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  Speaker 2: just in general, he's just really whiny and annoying.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of Zach through the show,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's just kind of there and I think you
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  Speaker 1: just deal with him. And even by the way, I
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  Speaker 1: even think once spoiler and alert, not really, but once
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  Speaker 1: him and Lane have kids, it's kind of like he's
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  Speaker 1: still annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have issue. I mean, I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: like seasons ahead here, but I am so annoyed with
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  Speaker 2: Zach's storyline in general, like I wanted them to just
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  Speaker 2: because he was creative for the Remember when we first
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  Speaker 2: met Zach and he was hitting a lurlei and it
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  Speaker 2: was like kind of icky, and then they like they
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  Speaker 2: created him to be just kind of this gross jerk.
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  Speaker 2: But then once Dave Rogowski left, then the writers had
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  Speaker 2: to kind of pivot and give Lane a love interest.
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  Speaker 2: I wish they hadn't. Just it's like they just pulled
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  Speaker 2: a name out of a hat and they're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Like I wish they had introduced another character,
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  Speaker 2: because then they had to completely change him from this stupid,
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  Speaker 2: jerky guy to this guy that we're supposed to like
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  Speaker 2: for Lane, and my brain couldn't do that. But we'll
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  Speaker 2: get we can discuss that again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to touch a little bit on it,
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  Speaker 1: I think in hindsight, I would have liked to see
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  Speaker 1: a dynamic of a guy who wasn't in a band
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  Speaker 1: dating Lane, Yeah, you know, and like, what's the dynamic
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  Speaker 1: of like, oh, my girlfriend is in a band with
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  Speaker 1: three other guys. Yeah, that's true, and then her mind.
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  Speaker 2: I really liked Henry Choe. I wish that she could
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  Speaker 2: love Henry cho Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Like, if we couldn't get Dave, give us Henry
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  Speaker 1: right exactly, he would have been a good option instead
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  Speaker 1: of Dave. If we're going to get rid of Dave.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, because Dave was To this day, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: justice for Dave totally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And well we're gonna I have some things to
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  Speaker 2: say about that when we get to the next episode
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  Speaker 2: that yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, did you notice in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know I caught my attention, but Taylor said
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  Speaker 1: meeting adjourned and I was like, oh, that's their thing.
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  Speaker 2: I heard that too. It's like, oh, we should get
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  Speaker 2: that little clip.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He doesn't always say it, and so when I
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  Speaker 1: heard it, I was like, oh, look, yeah, it's like
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  Speaker 1: the whole reason why we do this. It's our town meetings.
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  Speaker 1: Besides seeing the clown, Pillow and Maxine in the first
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  Speaker 1: in the very first scene, I didn't I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: have any call outs, but I'm sure you do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I just really some super minor ones. So
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  Speaker 2: in the opening, when Lorelei is clipping the cupons, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, I don't know why Rory is so disturbed
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  Speaker 2: by that, Like, who cares if she wants to clip cubos?
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  Speaker 1: Who cares? I love a discount.
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  Speaker 2: She goes outside with her pile of laundry and then
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  Speaker 2: comes back in because the washer's broken, and you can
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  Speaker 2: there were multiple takes there because the pile of laundry.
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  Speaker 1: That she moved is changing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, different things are on top.
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  Speaker 1: I did google. I googled the laundry detergent that they use,
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  Speaker 1: dream What was it called fresh Dream Fresh It was.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so funny because there was a reddit. Literally
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  Speaker 1: I googled it and there was a Reddit thread about
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls Dream Fresh, and literally everyone's like, no, it's
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  Speaker 1: not real. It was just to show that she's using
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  Speaker 1: like a brand name to like save money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Rory even mentions, like she says something about it,
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  Speaker 2: like is this It's.
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  Speaker 1: Like off brand. Yeah, sorry, not branding. I'm at off brand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but it was like fully on display, so
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was product placement, and so I googled
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  Speaker 1: him like what is this and it's like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: it's like totally fake.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing that kind of annoyed me was that
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  Speaker 2: seeing that they put Rory in, they kept pronouncing it differently.
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  Speaker 2: Did you notice that because sometimes Taylor said an taiya
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes he said antia, And it was asking me
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  Speaker 2: that he kept saying it differently. It's I pick one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I watched it last
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  Speaker 1: night and I thought it was like maybe I just
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  Speaker 1: heard it wrong and I didn't go back, so I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was just me thinking it the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they said several different pronunciations throughout, which annoyed me.
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  Speaker 1: Also, speaking of really quick the festival, there were like
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  Speaker 1: twenty people watching it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't have very much I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, what's a great turnout.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could have used some creative camera angled.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it assumed that when they were
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  Speaker 1: running and there's like three rows of people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, they kept talking about the They mentioned at
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  Speaker 2: least two or three times the moralized dress that she's
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  Speaker 2: gonna wear, like, I want to wear the dress again,
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  Speaker 2: do you fit the dress?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: But then it was a dress, she a blouse with jeans.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I did notice that because at one point
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  Speaker 1: she's like, oh it still fits like a glove or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: She said. Yeah, I was like, oh, it was literally
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  Speaker 1: just it also was not very cute. I guess it
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  Speaker 1: went with the painting. But like when she was just
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  Speaker 1: standing there talking to Rory backstage, I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: is this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because the painting, it's a real painting,
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  Speaker 2: so they like she wouldn't have had any choice what
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  Speaker 2: to wear, like they have to match the picture. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was she was all excited about a dress and
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  Speaker 2: there's no rest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of was Miss Patty didn't have her back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: really not like miss Patty.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know, usually Miss Patty is on moralized side.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or at least she could have said something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, because she kind of walked away when Taylor
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  Speaker 1: said she flinch and like tried to like ignore the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was trying to distance herself from Yah, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: but Kirk was hilarious. I loved Kirk in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: My girlfriend, my girlfriend Lulu the whole time, Come sit.
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  Speaker 2: With my girlfriend and I there's a seat behind my girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny because with Kirk, like it's so simple, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like all they're doing is just adding girlfriend into every
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  Speaker 1: little thing. Yeah, but it's his delivery, Like it's just
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  Speaker 1: so good right right.
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  Speaker 2: And then when he totally like gets into character as
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  Speaker 2: Christ and he's being all mean to the Troubadour because
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  Speaker 2: he was Judas, that was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. At first I was like, why is
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  Speaker 1: he being mean? And then I had to realize, like
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  Speaker 1: he's in character because I was like, this is Kirk
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  Speaker 1: so funny?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, definitely, I mean it was a good
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  Speaker 2: episode and you know, gets us excited to meet the
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  Speaker 2: baby and and Gil and Gil.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The one other thing that happens in this episode, Nicole
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  Speaker 2: shows up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like tried to ignore that part of the
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  Speaker 1: storyline because I think it's so stupid.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely felt worse right Drived, Yeah, exactly, like you could,
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  Speaker 2: like no one has even thought about Nicole in many
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  Speaker 2: many episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I also haven't seen her. I forgot what she looked like.
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  Speaker 2: I know, well, in her changes color at some point,
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  Speaker 2: she was a brunette at some point, but it's shorter, right,
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  Speaker 2: it's shorter, and well, you know, it's been like a
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  Speaker 2: year or something, so she probably has done other parts
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  Speaker 2: and had to cut her hair. But yeah, I definitely
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  Speaker 2: you could totally tell that this is just a mechanical
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  Speaker 2: device to keep Luke and Laura Lai from getting together
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  Speaker 2: too soon.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like there could have been another way
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  Speaker 1: to do it, because like it, like we said, it
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  Speaker 1: felt very forced. It was just like, oh, now we're
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  Speaker 1: going to insert Nicole and then not to flow into
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  Speaker 1: the next episode. But then there's more in a cole
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  Speaker 1: in the next episode, and it's like, right, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like if they wanted to do that, they
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  Speaker 2: could have had Luke meet somebody else. Yeah, why did
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  Speaker 2: they have to bring Nicole back? Like there could have
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  Speaker 2: been somebody else? I mean, I guess they because they
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  Speaker 2: did that with Rachel. I don't know. Maybe they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to like just keep doing that and over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it could have been like someone came into
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  Speaker 1: town because of the festival, sat in the diner and
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  Speaker 1: he started flirting. Like it could be exactly. She was
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  Speaker 1: in town to see the Fustial. You know, it could
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  Speaker 1: have been easy.
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  Speaker 2: Right exactly. So yeah, the whole thing with having it
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  Speaker 2: being Nicole that comes back was like, eh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a good episode. Yeah, it was entertaining,
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  Speaker 2: yeah for sure, and it was something different and you know,
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  Speaker 2: an amazing amount of work on the makeup. So kudos
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  Speaker 2: to that team that definitely definitely earned that Emmy for
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  Speaker 2: sure for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well next week we're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: season four, episode eight, Die Jerk. Well, see you next
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  Speaker 1: week meeting adjourned. Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email
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  Speaker 1: us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.