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#207 The doll that should be banned · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: You look great.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I wish I could say the same, you
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  Speaker 2: look amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Get me a haircut. The amount of people who are
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  Speaker 1: like you look like shit on social media.
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  Speaker 2: So mean they I never get any of those because
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  Speaker 2: you've got a shaved head, the old filter. I look
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  Speaker 2: exactly the same.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to two noting dads. I'm Mattie J And
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ash And this is a podcast all about parenting.
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  Speaker 1: It is good.
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  Speaker 2: It is the bad and the relatable.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm getting sick again again. I forgot to
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  Speaker 1: take I got halfway through my antibiotics, the penicillin, and
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  Speaker 1: then I forgot is it kefflix. It's penicillin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the type of penicillin I'm alleged to
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I get a horrible rash in the migraine.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got I've got halfway through, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be fine. And then the next day today I
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  Speaker 1: woke up with a tickle. I woke up the first swallow.
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  Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, the first swallow. It's there.
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  Speaker 2: It's back just quickly. Last week I was telling you,
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  Speaker 2: I gave a little shout out to a mom I saw,
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  Speaker 2: remember walking with the pram.
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  Speaker 1: She had a couple of kids. She was she was
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  Speaker 1: pushing like twenty kids, the whole class.
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  Speaker 2: I saw her again today. So last week she had twins,
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  Speaker 2: someone in the back and another kid. Today she had
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  Speaker 2: five kids hers. Yeah, must have been they all looked
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  Speaker 2: the same.
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  Speaker 3: She's procreating at the speed of light.
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  Speaker 1: Did she look like she hated life with five?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that. We did that
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  Speaker 2: breaking news where it was like, you have more kids,
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  Speaker 2: you age quicker.
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  Speaker 1: She's old a mom who I I often crossed paths
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  Speaker 1: with which she's on one side of the road. I'm
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  Speaker 1: on the other, and I swear she's got like four
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  Speaker 1: or five kids, and I from across the road, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, you got a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 2: She was like I know, Oh my god. You said that?
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  Speaker 2: Which yours? I was like, bye, yeah, I was. I
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  Speaker 2: saw the same spot, and I was like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think you should have not someone who has more than
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  Speaker 1: three kids. That deserves an acknowledgment. It deserves like a
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  Speaker 1: like well done, good on you. It's like if you're
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  Speaker 1: binging one hundred kilos, you can go out and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot of way.
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  Speaker 2: That's different though, because you don't want to be like, oh, congratulations,
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  Speaker 2: you got five and they're like, I only wanted three,
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  Speaker 2: and then we had an accident, turned out to be twins,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're upset about it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to reignite that flat.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll be like, well, you're fucking in it now,
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  Speaker 1: aren't you well done?
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  Speaker 3: Like years of therapy, you've just opened it back up.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, thanks for reminding me.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you get. When you have that many kids,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have some level of attention.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 1: It's too many.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of Man. I saw a TikTok the
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  Speaker 2: other day and this guy was like, I'm back at
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  Speaker 2: home with all eighteen of my siblings and we have
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  Speaker 2: forty grand kids. I threw my phone across the room.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's fucking ridiculous. That's a cult.
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  Speaker 1: That is religion. You're right, that is religion.
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  Speaker 2: For Okay, tell you right now. For religions who have
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  Speaker 2: so many rules around sex. Fuck, they have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of kids.
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  Speaker 1: Don't they. Just JESU, we starved. I just starved of
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  Speaker 1: something and then you get a little taste of it.
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  Speaker 2: We fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Hey. Housekeeping, Oh, housekeeping, very house keeping, very exciting news
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  Speaker 1: that we would like to welcome officially to the podcast
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  Speaker 1: of Two Doating Dads. Please give a warm welcome to
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  Speaker 1: producer Victoria. Yes, producer VIC, Producer Vic. She's nodding with
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  Speaker 1: producer Vic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going with producer Vic.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I was going to go the full name, but
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  Speaker 1: it is great to have you here.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice to be on a shorter name basis.
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  Speaker 1: She did break a tripod this morning.
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  Speaker 3: That's written warning number one, and she's looking at me.
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  Speaker 3: That will break its financially. Do you start breaking things?
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we have an amazing talented individual who is
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  Speaker 1: now wrangling us, and it's just it's a delight.
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  Speaker 2: It helps that she's a mom too, because then she's
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  Speaker 2: just like, boys, come on.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, can go to the bathroom, and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: for god's sake, come on quick.
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  Speaker 3: If you hear anyone cackling in the background, that is Vic.
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  Speaker 1: And also if you see someone commenting on the Facebook group.
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  Speaker 1: She's not just a really over keen fan of the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Her and Donnor neck and neck. I love Donna. That
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  Speaker 2: was not.
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  Speaker 1: Negative, and she's been quiet Donna's backed off. Why well
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  Speaker 1: because of this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just said it, Donna. If you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 2: we miss you.
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  Speaker 1: We miss you.
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  Speaker 2: Bring it back. Maybe she's busynue Born.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, congratulations, that was like a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't it. Come back, Donnor, back to Victoria. Yes, welcome Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, and stop breaking our equipment.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people ask messaged about the washing machine,
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  Speaker 1: the white goods, oh.
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  Speaker 2: The dishwasher, the saga of the dishwasher, which there is
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  Speaker 2: a solution, apparently, according to the Facebook group and the
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  Speaker 2: helpful dotors in there, there's an app shout out to Talia, Talia,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. There's an app that you can turn it,
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  Speaker 2: turn it off. I haven't tried it yet.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't read the message.
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  Speaker 2: No, how many people need to read the message. Let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest, it said red. I thought someone else has
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  Speaker 2: got this under control. It turns out no one does. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I'm thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, there's an app. Yep, that's it. That's all
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  Speaker 1: I've got, and it allows you to turn it off.
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  Speaker 2: Can you turn it down?
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  Speaker 3: I don't mind a little jingle, just very loud.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be good if there was some kind of like
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  Speaker 1: variation similar to a Nokia phone where you can go
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  Speaker 1: through and like select ring tone.
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  Speaker 2: Or you can make your own, and it's like you
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  Speaker 2: can do you remember that? Where it was like you
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  Speaker 2: can go through and make your own ring tone based
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  Speaker 2: off like that. It'd be like c sharp do you
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  Speaker 2: not have that?
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  Speaker 1: Never did that?
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  Speaker 2: Never want to show you. I'm going to show you
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  Speaker 2: because you could. You could go online and find how
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  Speaker 2: to make your favorite song ring tone with the Nokia phone.
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  Speaker 2: I have a Knakia thirty three ten at home and
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  Speaker 2: bringing it in.
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait to listen to your ring tone.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be the ringtone or the dishwasher.
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  Speaker 1: Breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: You've got breaking news out here? What do you got
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  Speaker 2: for me?
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  Speaker 1: I've been holding on to this. This is actually this
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  Speaker 1: is late the time of hearing this. It's not breaking.
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  Speaker 1: It is breaking of this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you don't know, we'd a week in ahead,
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  Speaker 2: a week in advance, so.
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  Speaker 1: Very hard with breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: It's breaking to us now, but when you get it,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Near possibly, it's just can people stop breaking the fucking studio?
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  Speaker 2: It's a fake plan to be fine, God damn it.
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  Speaker 1: Sizzler. You remember Sizzler, don't you dare.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming back.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming back.
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  Speaker 2: Right a lot. Oh my goodness, such a good concept.
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  Speaker 2: You buy a main meal and you get unlimited salad bar.
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  Speaker 2: That is fucking amazing. En dessert. All they're missing is
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  Speaker 2: like unlimited carb station where it's just like potato.
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  Speaker 1: I remember a waiter at Sizzler once told me how
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  Speaker 1: you make the cheesy bread. He was like, you just
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  Speaker 1: butter and put palmes and cheese on, then you just
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  Speaker 1: like pan fry it.
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  Speaker 2: That down too hard.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, it was like I had the recipe
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  Speaker 1: for Coca cola. I was like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not the same though, when you cook something
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  Speaker 2: at home, it's not the stay They've got something there.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just the you know how we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about this the house. Your house has a smell.
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  Speaker 2: Every house has a smell. It's like Sizzler has its
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  Speaker 2: own smell that goes into the cooking.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I when I grew up in the
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  Speaker 1: suburb of ken Moore, Queensland, there was a Sizzler and
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  Speaker 1: on Fridays there was a queue around the corner that
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  Speaker 1: get in like it was heaving.
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  Speaker 2: That's like peak when Pizza Huddle we Can Eat closed
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  Speaker 2: down and Sizzler was still around, So everyone's like, what
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  Speaker 2: do we do now? Yeah, where do we get the
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  Speaker 2: endless amount of food from?
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  Speaker 1: Like what was life like back then? It must have
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  Speaker 1: been the best.
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  Speaker 2: Very boring when you're scrolling through TikTok and you see
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  Speaker 2: those nostalgia videos of like this is what was around
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  Speaker 2: in the two thousands and Sizzle pops up and you're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go out of business.
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  Speaker 1: Close down twenty twenty And apparently, rumor has it, one
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  Speaker 1: of the hotels near Mascot, Sydney, they've got to put
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  Speaker 1: one in there in the hotel, in.
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  Speaker 2: The hotel itself parent it's genius.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently, and then they have plans to roll them out.
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  Speaker 1: Will it do well? I think I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: the younger generation will enjoy it as much as we did.
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  Speaker 2: I think it'll be a case of us as parents going,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to Sizzl, the kids check this out, and
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  Speaker 2: then we're all just disappointed at the end.
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  Speaker 1: I always had the salad bar. All I ate was
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  Speaker 1: the bolonnaise and the ice cream and the apple pie. Afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: You should be able to go in and go like
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  Speaker 2: I just want the bolonnaise and the bread and the
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  Speaker 2: ice cream option, thank you. And it's like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit cheap.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think I tried a bit of ham
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  Speaker 1: once and I was like, now back to the BOLINAI yeah, because.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, okay, I'll get this surloin and then you
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  Speaker 2: get you get the salad bar. Say that you can
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  Speaker 2: order a main. I know you can. Do you order surloin?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Well, must be is that even an expensive kind oftak?
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  Speaker 2: You're over here eating seafood marinara?
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  Speaker 1: Not back then, and.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking for a bit of beef.
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  Speaker 1: I was there with a single mother, five kids. Surloin
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  Speaker 1: in my fucking.
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  Speaker 2: Dream, actually five kids. Jesus is extensive of steak.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely it is. Geez, it would have been would have
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  Speaker 1: been nice growing up in the Wick's household where we
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  Speaker 1: went to scissor for fucking surloy.
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  Speaker 2: I've been to your house. I've been to your house.
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  Speaker 2: You're eating a home by a helicopter. You're eating lamb
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  Speaker 2: at your house these days, these days, not when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: We had nothing. When I was a kid, nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You're running out of bread, you get I'm getting hungry
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  Speaker 2: now anyway, what's in this building? I just realized meet
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  Speaker 2: in life Stock Australia. So if you want to serve one,
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  Speaker 2: just nip upstairs. They've probably got cows walking around up there.
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  Speaker 2: Just as an assumption, just.
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  Speaker 1: Really quickly ash, have you ever been like verbally assaulted
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  Speaker 1: by a young child?
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  Speaker 2: Every day of my life?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Good? What did that make you so happy?
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  Speaker 1: I was picking up the kids the other day and
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  Speaker 1: this is when Lawla was finishing at two thirty, Marley
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  Speaker 1: finished at three, so we would hang around. We played
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: at the playground at school for half an hour waiting
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  Speaker 1: for Mary to finish. There was a couple other kids
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  Speaker 1: who also had older siblings as well, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: all playing in the playground and we're playing at one
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  Speaker 1: of the little cafe holes in the playground. This kid
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  Speaker 1: was looking at me quite inquisitively, and I was like
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: looking at him and I was like hello, and he
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  Speaker 1: was like you need a brush your teeth.
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  Speaker 2: I was like wow, excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: And he was like yeah, real real yellow. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what what do you mean? That's that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: He just straight up out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: He looked at my teeth and was.
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  Speaker 2: Just like, kids are just brutally honest, so brutal.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. I was like, do
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  Speaker 1: I get angry yellow? Thank you?
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  Speaker 3: You're a pretty white yellow?
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  Speaker 1: No, yours are great.
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  Speaker 2: No one can says otherwise sick.
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  Speaker 1: I was taken aback and like Molly got picked up
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  Speaker 1: and was like, what's wrong dad? And I was like nothing,
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  Speaker 1: cut on the bike, We're going home.
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  Speaker 2: Just insulted by a child.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: Your poor thing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, for the record, I think your teeth are white
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  Speaker 3: of mine.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you know what's been popping off lately is the
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  Speaker 1: Instagram page two doting dads?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and you did have a clever idea thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Which is a competition.
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  Speaker 1: Competition. What do they win? We don't know yet.
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  Speaker 2: We love doing that. We have some merch what about
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: like what about a broken dry good? What about Tony
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  Speaker 2: May the jewelry?
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  Speaker 1: That's my wife's label that she's had thirteen years?
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  Speaker 2: My wife, that's a label thirteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: That's longer than Sizzler last.
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  Speaker 1: Originally I could ask her for a voucher. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: the competition will be and we'll post this on the Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: but we're currently at ninety eight.
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  Speaker 2: Point three something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nine air point four.
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  Speaker 2: As you said, that sentence a winner.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: And we want to know if people can try and
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: guess with a comment on a post on Instagram when
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  Speaker 1: we will hit one hundred thousand followers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it, Thank you? Can I guess?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, it's hard, it's hard, hard, like we could have
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  Speaker 2: a big spike. I think it'll be the twenty seventh
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  Speaker 2: of this month. Yeah, that's a pretty good guess. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go into March. I'm going to go
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  Speaker 2: the first week of March. I'm going to go second
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  Speaker 2: to March.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Well, if you want to get your entry in, all
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  Speaker 1: you have to do is go to our Instagram page
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: comment what date you think we'll hit a hundred thousand,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: and then when we do hit a hundred thousand, you've
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: got to keep an eye on the numbers because then
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  Speaker 1: you have to screenshot your entry because we're not going
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: to go find it. Let's be honest, You've would screenshot
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  Speaker 1: whoever gets it to us first. So I multiple people
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  Speaker 1: guess the same day, but you sent it to us
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  Speaker 1: first with a screenshot, then you win. Its first in
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  Speaker 1: best dress.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, the mechanics for this competition are fool proof. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And we don't know what the prize is. We'll figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. Maybe some surloins.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: A couple of slines.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: Go up to meet life stock.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: You've found a calf.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Will jump out of Housekeeping. But I want to also
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: just something you said during Housekeeping, which was, have you
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  Speaker 2: ever been a verbally assaulted by child? I'm not being
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  Speaker 2: verbally assaulted. I'm being trolled by my own children and
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: my wife. A couple of weeks ago, I told a
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: story about seeing the Book of Mormon and that I
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: don't Yeah, I didn't enjoy it. I don't like musicals.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, not for me, but my
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: wife and kids have decided to get into high school musical.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, zach Efron, is it good?
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  Speaker 2: I hate musicals? What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask? I haven't seen it, but is there
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: a scene where they're playing basketball and then they're like
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: the basketball games?
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  Speaker 3: Is the beats heading the game?
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  Speaker 2: Fuck?
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  Speaker 3: You forget how many stars are in that?
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  Speaker 2: That's like they cut you know, they butter their bread
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  Speaker 2: there and then they took off into stardom.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Name me one more Vanessa Hudson.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously Zach Efron, who he looks completely different.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to tell me something like.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't put that much thought into that statement like that,
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  Speaker 2: you okay, I'm going to quickly.
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  Speaker 1: You forget how many superstars?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just know I don't Okay, I didn't even
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: know who Alan Rickman was. I thought it was an
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  Speaker 2: actual dog.
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  Speaker 1: You forget just how many it was jam packed full
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  Speaker 1: of people musical better things.
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  Speaker 2: Name me one one other Zach care from Vanessa Hudson.
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  Speaker 2: I said that Ashley French. She's a bit controversial, though,
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  Speaker 2: I think what else? Who we got here? Who we
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  Speaker 2: got na? No one else? Not one other person?
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  Speaker 1: That statement.
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  Speaker 2: No, actually, I'm going to I'm going to backtrack on
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: that retracted. I don't know any of these people. Maybe
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: it's just the two. I don't know where did I
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: think there was more? Maybe they were extras in it.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Sorry, anyway, there's a lot of them.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: There's one, there's two.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Were you into retracting that statement?
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of singing and dancing going on in
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: my house at the moment because of high school musical.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: And honestly, I think they're trolling me. I'm in the house.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Is either one, two or three high school musical going
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: for no reason? Or we get in the car and
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: now it's in the playlist.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: April used to be a dancer, didn't she?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: But she was a child.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Well I'm just saying that as someone who grew up
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: in the dance world.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: She's got a terrible rhythm.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I think she's quite good. I've seen her like do
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a drunk and.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, she's a great drunk dancer.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very good.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I do have footage of that.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: But she's like I feel like she would be into it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: She's into it, yeah, but I'm not. And I think
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: they know I'm not and that I was like, I
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: can't stand musicals, and all of a sudden, my house
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: is just one big fucking musical.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Get into it, bro, star swimming against the tide, give in.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I'm stubborn, very stubborn.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I'm an old stubborn man going to change your ways? No,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: But I'm just waiting for them to get La La
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: land or going like the Greatest Showman?
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Cracker, Cracker, what's the song A Million Dreams?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Come on? Bro?
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I actually I do like it when Marley sings.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: It's like Taylor Swift. I used to not like Taylor Swift,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and I was big on the l like what's the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: big deal? Not a huge fan. Similar scenario, I'd come
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: home and Marley was watching like the two hour concert
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: on YouTube on the TV, and we would have it
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in the car every day, and then all of a sudden,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I just thought, you know what, I'm just going to
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: enjoy this.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: No, I'm standing up parents everywhere.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: When I stopped fighting it, life was better. Just give in.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It was just bend over and give in and let
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the musical flow freely through your body.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: And next week I come in and I'm in one
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: of their basketball uniforms. Get you ahead in the game.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I'm all I'm doing is musical high school musical quotes.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: So the whole.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I like music.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I do love music. But I like my music music
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and my movies movies even though I can't watch a
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: movie I like. I don't like it when people just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: bust into song and dance. It's so crep. But also
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: as well, that head in the game. I can just imagine,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: like back when that came out and the teenagers been
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: like this is so fucking cool.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It's badass.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: It's bad as I'm gonna play basketball and sing no
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: you're not, that's not cool, just saying Oscar loves it.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: But I keep catching Macy, which is cute. I keep
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: catching Macy singing to it on like if she's like
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: watching it on by yourself, and I'll be I hear
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: this little voice and I walk in like the status
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: go walking in and she's.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Like, because they know you hate it, You're like.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Shut up, Yeah, that's what I'm like, shut up my house.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: If anyone's happy in this house, I'll kick you out.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play you a sound a noise if you will,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And I want you to tell me if you know
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: what this is. It's like secret sound on radio. If
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you're listening at home right now, play along and try
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and guess what it is.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: We won't know because it'll just be you, okay listening.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Tell me if you can figure out what this sound is.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Laura's top drawer. That's a breast pump.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Baby, Ah, it's a Mendela breast pump.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Wow. Remember Chris Hemsworth, that's his first ever job, used
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: to clean the nippole things.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we weren't allowed to tell that story.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Thanks long star Amount.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: We interviewed Chris Hemsworth and he told us that his
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: very first job was cleaning breast pumps, and then afterwards
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the publicist was like, delete everything.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: We still got that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: We know, we don't, what are we doing we do,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: let's release it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It was like, we can't release it because they might
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: not give us any work anymore.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But they never did.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Chris has a fetish for breasts and he's afraid of
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: it coming out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: You've heard it here first we started, Chris got breast fetish.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: We are now at the tail end of breastfeeding. And
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the only time that I had a horrible jo don't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: do it. The only time that Poppy will take the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: breast milk as if it's in a bottle and it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: been pumped by Laura. And it's weird that that noise
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: every evening after dinner. That is the soothing sounds that
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I met with.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You know, somewhere in your house there's a boob out,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: like become these detectives, like where's the boob? Just follow
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the sound.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to put it on my own nipple,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't have it here, but I've done that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: No, where is it a rental? Did you buy one?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: We bought one.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: We used to have one of like the just the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: little sucky ones.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, they ain't really man that thing.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Like when Laura first started using it, she was getting
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so much milk out suck.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: The life, Like wow, She's like, look at this, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, suck started motorcycle.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And then she got to work and I'd be like
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: looking at it going.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: The vacuum cleaner, is like, how dare you? How dare
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you cheat on me with this thing? But I get it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: It's got it's got different functions.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Poppies now on the on the formula, and it's you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it's a sad moment. I think for any partner who
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: has to then, like all of a sudden step up
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to the plate at nighttime with the feeds, with the formula.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And those breast pump things. They are a hot property
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: on the second hand MARKT. I'll tell you right now.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: They Yeah, we.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Should definitely like you got that breast pump?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do it? When you It's like
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: what finished with?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: What?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: When I'm finished with? What with it?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm kind if I'm a little bit tired. It's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: because you know, I've been doing the night feeds ash
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: with poppies, So I'm just.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just You're just in the trench.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Just in the trenches.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Br And look, any anyone that's going through this phase, good,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: good on you keep on keeping on. I reckon because
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it's fuck. That was tough. That was the toughest part,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I think because like bedtime routine, like say whatever, six
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: thirty seven o'clock, whatever, the anxiety kicks.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: In what and it's like, how long are they going
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to sleep for?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Because I know that she'll wake up at midnight for
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a feed. And last night I went to bed at
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: eleven and then it was eleven, ten, eleven twenty, and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, I know that I'm getting up pretty soon.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And then I finally like I got to see it,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: maybe like eleven forty five, and then I was up
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: at twelve and I was.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Like, damn it, quick bowl, now up and back. How
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: long is she feed for this?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: It depends. Last night she was a bit fussy, but normally,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like I'd say, she's been a good five ten minutes.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: That's pretty thing.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's been one time where I was like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, and Laura's like, don't fall asleep while you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: feeding it. I'm like I wasn't.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Definitely as it just breast milk or formula.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Now, well, Laura gets home, does the pump. She'll then
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: have that breast milk to go to bed. But then
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I think the formula is better. It fills it up more.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I think then through the night we then if there's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: some breast milk left over, it'll go to.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I'll have a quick we're on the Baileys, We're.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: In the formula, on the phone, on on the formula
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: each night.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: My kids just wasted all the formula because they just
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: they wanted They had it once and then like after
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that they just wouldn't take it against. It's waste. All
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: this formula they just didn't get. They just didn't hook
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: onto it. I don't know why, what age, I can't
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: really remember, but I remember just having tins and tins
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: of it. It was the time when people were hoarding tins too.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I fell into the category of I'm hoarding tins.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I know people like you, you're the problem.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you go down the aisle and there was none
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in there, and then you'd see a current affair and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it just be some ladies like Mae, it's smuggling it out.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Poppy only likes Bellamies and I tried to give her
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: like another brand and she was like, what the hell
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: is this is Bellamies, Bellamiesies.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Chef's kiss.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: It's the sur line of.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: The speaking of wasting things. My eldest, Oscar, who is
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: six and a half, yes, just at that age where
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: wastes everything. Yeah, like one bite of something waste and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I put my foot in it and he absolutely scoolled me.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: He got me good, which I didn't really let happen
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: very often because usually what I'll say, my mate, laptops
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: don't grow on trees or something.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: If he breaks something, it's like, doesn't grow on trees.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, He's really into drawing, and I stupidly said, paper
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't grow on trees.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're a goose.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And I just came out and as soon as it
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: came out, his little ears perked up. He was even
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Macy perked up and was like, you fucked up, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Oscar was like, guess what, yes, it does. I was like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: damn it, you motherfucker. It's got me good with that
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: one anyway ruined the whole day because I sent him
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: to his room and I actually played it off like
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I baited him on purpose because I didn't want to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: admit defeat. But he's technically he's scored me good.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's annoying when you're getting out like outbeaten, out smarted by.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Six old and I was like, you got to bet now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: But can I just say it is so annoying that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: we've got like a little drawing pad sketch book, if
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you will, and the kids will do like a like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: one line on it and they're like next, oh, And
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you've got so much free paper, just
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like stay on that page. And they're like, no, I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: want a fresh one, and I'm like bar out man.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Especially in a four it's got two sides. There's two
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: sites in this piece of.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: No and they don't want to go on the one
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: thing you want to do the double side. I can
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: see the drawing through and I don't. I don't like it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Paper, no respect, no respect for paper.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Kids have no respect for paper.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I went outside, so we're on a second story, right, Okay.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I went outside to go to my car because I'd
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: parked on the street for some reason, the notes did
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and I walked out and there's all these paper aeroplanes
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: all over the grassouts out the front and I was like, no,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I look up there's a balcony and I'm like oscar. Anyway,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I picked him up, walk back upstairs. I was like
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: what is this and he was like, well, I couldn't
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: get them.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, there's stairs, bro go down.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So he would just throw it once, go and get
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: another piece of paper, do another shit air not even
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: good aeroplanes. Embarrassing.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Why do boys love paper planes so much?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: To know? But they are a hazard. They are pointy. Yeah, man,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Like the other day came out of the laundry and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: an aeroplane came at me. I felt like I was
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: in World War three because you.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Sent into his room.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, they're here, they're invading. But yeah, he
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: does love a paper aeroplane. But he does love to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: waste the paper and then leave it all over the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: fucking ground.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Nightmare. Do you know what? My girls loves dolls?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Your Macy's into dolls. Both my girls mermaids love also unicorns.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Big on the unicorns. We had Lla's birthday party. A
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Great party.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Before we get into that, go on Unicorn Mermaids. Macy
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: made me get a Unicorn Mermaid, but we didn't put
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: the horn on yet. A Unicorn Mermaid tattoo.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: She's gonna have a unicorn on her head. That's gonna
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: be a bit strange, decided. Anyone who wants to look
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: at that beautiful tattoo, just go to the YouTube.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go to YouTube.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You can see us in flesh, in flesh the full
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: episode and Ashes in a bicep will be there with Mermaid.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So my girls love dolls, love dolls. Lola had a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: birthday party. She's done five out a couple of weeks ago.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I go up so fast.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And we don't do the unboxing unwrapping of the presence
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: at the party. We do it at home. Yeah, she's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: allowed to have one gift.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty standard. I don't know he wouldn't do
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: it in front of people.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: No, No, do it at home. It's a slash of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a mess.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Imagine standing around watching some kid open up a bunch
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of things.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do it at home. Do it at home. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm not sure who gave with this toy. But
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: there one doll in particular that she was playing with
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, how was that? And she
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was like, this is my doll and I was like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: where did you get that from? She goes for my
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: birthday and I was like, I didn't take it off
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: her then and there I was like, wait till she
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: goes to sleep, and I'm going to get rid of
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that doll, confiscate it never to be seen again.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: What.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't clock it at first. It was Laura who
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: looked at it closely and was like, hang on a second,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: this ain't on.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she got a pretty good radar too for that
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you the doll.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Oh love show and tell. Have a look at this.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: It looks like a like a brats.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Doll, maybe a Brat's doll. Yeah, okay, okay, So she
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: has very long hair. Hair's not really the problem though,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: so undressed.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: She's got no feet? Is that the problem?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Not the problem? I just think a toy for a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: five year old child I don't think should be as
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: sexualized as it is. The reason I'm uncomfortable when you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: undress this doll. It has lingerie painted on and it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: in the shape of a very skimpy underwear, almost like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: g string light and also this die high boots with
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a huge heel, which is lipstick, and a full face
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of makeup with these really over accentuated features, like her
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: lips are massive. And I don't want my five year
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: old playing with a doll that has these adult like features.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be sending a bit of a wrong message.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I just think that's not on. I don't think we
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: need to be giving five year olds this. I think
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a five year old should be playing with kid like toys,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: which is too adult like to adult like for a kid.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: If my kid sees that kind of underwear and she goes,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: why am I wearing this full brief someone with the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: doll has And also they're now getting into makeup and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: she's like, well, I want to put iron shadow on.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I want to put my scar on. At five years old,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be thinking about those types of things. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: don't reckon.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, I think I agree with you.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Barbie for example, this is she's Barbie as an example. Okay,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: would you prefer always with nothing whatsoever?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think nothing.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: It's a tricky one because it's like the type of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: doll it is, which is I think it's brats, right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: that's what that reminds me of. It's sort of that's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: been the aesthetic of that, Like take the body out
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of that. Man, it's just the head, right, that's the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: aesthetic of brats that sets them apart. But at the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: same time, I get what you're saying, really like, you
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: don't want your little girl going I want my eyes
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to be like because that's the expectation, so society's expectation.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Exactly, it's a little bit grown up for a five
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: year old.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: At what age group would that be appropriate for?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think I don't think you any kid should
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: be playing with dolls that look like that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it sets a It might set the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: expectation that they am.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I am ipprude for thinking that is that? Am I?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think a prude. I think like I just.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Think creating a doll for a five year old that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: has lingerie painted on, a full face and makeup, really
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: enlarged lips, I think it just misses the mark. I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: think you can allow kids to play with toys that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a child like and not projecting these adult like standards.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: For Beauty in Fashion.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Well said, just speaking of kids playing with things, fucking
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: found oscar cutting up a can with a pair of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: scissors go on, And I was like, how did you
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: not cut yourself? Is that good with scissors?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: No?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, don't bro so sharp? Anyway?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: What was he making?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Something stupid?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he was making. But when one scissors, two.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Can watching my kids, my girls with scissors.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: That actually just quickly, what age do you think.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Kids should have scissors?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I think six six? And if they cut themselves, it
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: still part of the learning.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Experience supervised unsupervised.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: You gotta let them hurt themselves, right, I think. But
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: watching Lola is.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Just I would prefer to avoid having to go to hospital.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Trying to hold the papers.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I did? I got a banana out,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I put it on a chopping board and what was
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: left of that can whack and cut the banana in half. Oh,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I said, imagine that's your finger.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: What did he say?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: He went white? I missed a thing before we're talking
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: about formula and milk and stuff like that. My father
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: in law, Frank Popper, shut out to Frank, he's turned
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: into a I'm gonna call him a dealer?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: What's he got?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: April the other day got into his car with Macy.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Macy gets in the backseat. Obviously, Frank does him up,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and then out of his jacket comes a chocolate milk
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: bottle that he's from home that he's heated up and
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: brought with him for Macy because she's.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Obsessed with milk and a baby bottle still.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And he's the reason he's giving okay at home at
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: his place? Fine is it?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: No, if they don't, if they get home, they haven't
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: eaten their dinner. But anyway, Frank does so much.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: But don't you reckon that like you need it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: You can set the rules and he needs to abide
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: by them. Yeah, you can say, Frank, we stopped the bottle.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: It'd be like if you said, hey, we'll stopped the crack, right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: It's like if we when Lola was trying to quit
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the dummy and if we said, hey, Nana, just make
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: sure where out if you have Lola, keep the dummies
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: away because we're trying to trying to make her drop
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: that habit. And then if Nana wasn't giving it to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: her secretly, I'd be filthy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I've stuck between a rock and a hard place. Man,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I do put your foot because he he does like
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: three of the school pickups a week. He does so
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: much for us he can do, which I really appreciate.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't do that and still respect your boundaries and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the rules that you're enforcing.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. But anyway, I'll call them, call
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: him down. No, I don't want to know. April will
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: be so off me if I if I if I
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: April to be really off me if I said something
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: because he does so much.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He's like, you didn't talk about Frank on the podcast.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: But I thought it was funny, like at home at
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: his house if she wants a nice bottle of milk
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: to you know, keep your occupied. Anyway, No, but in
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the car, bro and he was apparently he was like
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: dialed it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Out, Like that's just that's is arrogant from Frank.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: That's showing off, that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Is asking to be caught. He wants to be caught.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like this has got out of control, not
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: control it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, how did to help?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why won't you eat your dinner?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: And I found out he's had like three bottles of milk.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm going to get into much trouble.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is that's child abuse.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Also frank up you.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, actually keep on doing what you're doing because
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: we need you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: What is with I can't stand people who think it's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: cute and funny to spoil my kids. Some people will
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: come over, it doesn't matter what time it is, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: they're like, I brought donuts to the kids, and I'm like,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that's cool, We'll have to have that after dinner because
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it's now four point thirty and I don't want them
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: having three donuts before they have dinner. It's a grandparent
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and they're like, come on, and I'm like, I fucking said,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: yeah what I said, and I meant it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: That's my nan bro Oh my god. If we go
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: over there with the kids and she'd be like, if
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: they've eaten their lunch, then it's like, okay, well she
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: can have a little treat. It's fine, you're an at
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: house whatever. But then she was like, what about a Fredo?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: What about a kit cat? What about a tim tan?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: What about a biscuit?
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Or like es?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, they can't have any more sugar and she's.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Like, why not have come on, let them enjoy life.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, leave them here with you.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Like far, I get him in the car and they're like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: oh my god.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden they're just assholes because the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: sugar's worn off.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: It's like when you're at a friend's barbecue and it's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: like eight o'clock and they're like, I just stay for
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer, and you're like, you don't have
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to deal with them tomorrow. Yeah, I'm the one who
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: has to deal with the repercussions tonight. It's not that
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: not that much of an issue. Sure, half an hour here,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: but tomorrow, do you want to come to my house?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: You want to deal with my kids in the morning
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: when I'm trying to get them out of bed and
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: feed them in the morning. No, you're fucking dying exactly.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It's nine o'clock at nine.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: They're like, sorry, it's nine o'clock at nine.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: They're like, just stay a bit longer.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so my kid's gonna fall a sleep
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: in the car. I have to try.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And you're essentially creating a knock on effect of so
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: many issues. Just let me take my kid home in
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: an appropriate hour.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I'm emotionally unstable as it is.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Funny story about a barbecue that I had when I
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: was a kid. It was like an end of year's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: soccer barbecue. Bunch of kids and they had this little
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: dog just call it a Jack Russell, Alan Rickman, let's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: call it Alan Rickman. And this little dog was being
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: fed left, right and centered by kids messages just whatever.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Your kids are not going to like doggy. The owner said, please, please,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: don't feed the dog. And you think kids aren't going
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to respect that, They're going to do whatever they do.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Put the dog away.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Anyway, they it got fed by so many kids. The
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: dog died. Essentially, it's stomach exploded.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: God, you got to put the dog away.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: You've got to the dog away, I said. I started
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: this with a funny story about a barbecue. A dog died.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: It actually it's stomach actually blew up.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, this episode gone.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I think that'll stay in the podcast.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Before we get into the dilemma. We did dilemmas last week.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: We talked about letting your kids win.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Well, Oscar is known in our household for cheating. We've
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: been playing Uno right before bed, and you know, regardless
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: of whoever wins or whatever, I'm finding the rogue car
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: are you? That's cheeky And also as well when he's
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: losing it and I'm wondering why it's hitting him so hard.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Poor kid's cheating and still losing, he storms off to bed.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: And April is such an m path and also her
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: father's daughter. The milk guy. She's like, have some milk,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: has some chocolate milk? I got it from Papa's house. Anyway,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: that's the dilemma. You stop Pappa from giving fucking milk
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the kids just coming to his house. He's just dealing
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: out milk. He's doing it out the back of his car.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Augustus Clump, is that the kid from.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Rolls in the Chocolate? Yeah? Yeah, that's my kids. They're
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: going to roll them out. Yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: But he's storming off to his room and going to
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: bed and having a soul them.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Car cards following it, and April's like, oh no, no, no, April.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: He has to learn how to lose.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Especially if he's cheating and still losing.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Cheating win all you want, boy, idiot, Oh God, let's
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: do dods, Lemma Matt.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And actually we have some very exciting years. You know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: we love a little jingle, a little intro. Here at
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: two doting dads and hot off the press. Oh god,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it's very hot, it is. Let's play this.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Now. You need us moll than ever. Know that we
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: still have each other. You can send sure doting dilemma.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: You can sure doting dilemma Ella, Ella.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: And so this is from Shanay?
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: No, Cheyenne Shay, I don't know how to pronounce that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Stop giving us your names, because I can't I butcher
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: him every time. I'm gonna go sh shah nay. There
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you go. From the Facebook spelled c h e E
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: double n E. Well, I know what the dilemma this
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: week is.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: It's how to pronounce this person's name.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: From Cheyenne Shane, I don't know in the Facebook group,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Oh god. Past the parcel etiquette. I'm doing past the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: parcel for my daughter's party this year. There will be
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: lollies in each layer, then one special present. I'd love
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to hear from parents who do pass the parcel. Do
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you opt for the birthday child to receive the present
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: or one of the children who have attended? Now I
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: want to preface this by saying, I have never organized
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the past the parcel and that's it. What about Oscars party,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't organize it, Okay, I was on crowd control.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: We can't pass the parcel at Lola's birthday party for
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: this reason. Okay, I think when you've got kids who
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: are only four or five, unless everyone and people are
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: going to come for me, I know that. Okay, I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: know that I'm doing nothing to make these children of
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the next generation resilientiate that, but I believe that every
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: kid needs to get a little toy.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: When did pass the past, will become woke?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I just think everyone needs because if you have four
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: kids out of twelve who are left with nothing, they're like, but.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Why it's the participation award.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: But they don't understand if they're eight and ten year old. Sure,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: but that's my first rule.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: What would be the what would be the little gift?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: What do you think of, like a little thing of
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: like blowing liquid ever, like a dry dog or a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: little lollipop.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a little lollio something.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And I think the major prize I think should not
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a new car. I don't think that should go to
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the kid his birthday it is that needs to go
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to a non birthday China.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Then how do you choose that kid? I think you
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: got to then just you go, then you then you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: actually play. That's when the real game starts. You're like, now,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: how long would you let it go around and around for?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Because kids are desperate, desperate little shits five rounds. I
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: would just sit there for ages for my own entertainment,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and they'll be like until do you know what it
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: should turn into? Like a gaming like survivor? Who can
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: last the longest? Who can sit there the longest while
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I do this? And then whoever doesn't get the shits
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: with it and stays wins the prize.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: And that is why you don't operate or organize the past.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: They bring their torch up and I put it out,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: so I reckon give every kid a toy. I said
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: that the Facebook group and people were like.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I'm with the people on the Facebook
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: wrapping the kids in cotton will? I know you made
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: it woke.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So I said that to Laura. She panicks so much
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that she was like, I'm just not doing past the parcel.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I'm scrapping.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: What about this past the parcel with no major prize,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: so then everyone just gets something and then you're like
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: game over.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, I think every kid has a lollipop.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Next question. This one is from Jess Easy got the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: easy name, Yes, and she's emailed and asked how often
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: should dads be going to the gym? My husband has
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: recently been on an intense health kick. I'm talking canning calories,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: weighing himself almost daily, taking photos for progress, and also
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: hiring a pt. Now, Whilst I'm proud of him for
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: getting fitter, losing over thirteen.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Killers wow congratulations and.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Hee congratulations, and also finding a passion, it's taking its
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: toll on our family life. We have a three and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a half year old and one jew in July. We
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: both work full time, though his hours are slightly longer
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: than mine and he has an hour commute each way.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: But he still maintains that he needs to go to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the gym four times every week, three during the week
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: and once on the weekend. But that means going straight
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: from work to the gym and then getting home at
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: eight point thirty pm, way past the little one's bedtime.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: If he is able to finish on time, he can
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: make it home by bath and bedtime. But if he
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't go, he ends up having to go twice on
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the weekend to make up for his sessions, which honestly
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: kills me a little bit. With number two on the way,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I'm worried that one he isn't spending enough time with
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: our first child, but two that his new routine will
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: take a big hit when bubb comes and he will
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: not be able to cope very well. I just want
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: an opinion. Surely, even just going three times a week
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: is not a big ask, or am I being the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: bad guy?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Fuck bit of a mind? Phil.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It is great that anyone wants to get fit and healthy,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and I know personally how much better I am with
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: my own headspace if I've gone to the gym a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: few times during the week. Where it gets really complicated
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is when the gym is being prioritized over everything else.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I think I'm all for getting fit and healthy, but
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: when it makes one parent feel like they are doing
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: it alone, that's when it's too much.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: By all means. Like you said, if he wants to
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: continue up four sessions a week, which I don't think,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: is that overkill? The seven days in a week it's
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: one day. I think that maybe he just needs to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: just have a quick look at his calendar and make
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: it work around the family a bit better. I mean,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: but also as well, also as well, there needs to
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: be from Jess's point of view, there also needs to
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: be essentially, they just need to communicate right at the
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: end of the day. Right now, She's like, look, I'm
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: worried that when the second child comes, you're going to
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: take a quick shot to your routine and it might
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it might disrupt you in a way, like we need
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: to have this conversation to go all right, Well, I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: fine with you doing your workout. It makes you feel better,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you feel like a better person, you're a better parent,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: but it needs to work around the family though it
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: can't be that is prime fucking time. Like we're talking
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: five to eight o'clock in the afternoon is which you're
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: essentially you're bypassing witching hour, the bath, the bed, routine, dinner.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: There's so much in that space. But by all means,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: don't give up your session if it makes you be
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a better person, a better pen but you need to
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: find a spot where it works with the family. Maybe
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: two of those sets you do it in your lunch
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: break at work.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of work he does, but
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you had imagine that he could go at lunchtime stay
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: back a little bit later, so he's still getting home
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to help with the child. But at risk of sounding
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: very cliche, here, oh god, when people talk about this,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up. But now I'm one of them.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Those early years go so bloody quick, they really do,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: before you know. I look at Marley now, who's to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: turn seven and grade one, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like my little girl, the way I used to put
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: in an appy and read us stories at bedtime, Like
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: those days are numbered. And I think it's so easy
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: when it's so hard and you're in the trenches of
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: giving those moments a miss. But I think they are
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: so imperative for not only making you a better parent,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: because the more you do it, the better you understand
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: your kids, you learn little tricks and tips, but also
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: it's so important to build those relationships in those moments
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: with your children when you're a part of the morning
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: or the nighttime routine. So when you're away for all
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: of that, I think it's at the detriment to your
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: relationship with your kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there'd be someone that you work with
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that wishes they could be home doing that, doing the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: bath and doing the dinner. I remember even just the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: other day, I was looking for an old photo through
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: my phone and it came up with Oscar with foodle
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: over his face as a two year old, and it
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: wasn't I wasn't there because I had at nine to five,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: which unfortunately I had to be able to provide because
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: April was off. But it hit me because I missed
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: that and I'd forgotten, and then when I look back,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I went, ah, fuck that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know there are so many nights where
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to rush the kids into bed. I want
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: them to be asleep because I want to get my
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: time back with just by myself, with me and Laura.
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  Speaker 1: But it is so nice when you do have those
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: nice moments. You read them the story, you have a
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: little cuddle in bed, you give them a kiss good night.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're the parts that you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: miss out on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I would say, as well, as long as
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: it's equal, like if you're in a relationship where you
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: want to work out seven times, as long as your
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: partner has equal opportunity to also do the same. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I say that, but with Laura, I have to sneak
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: in my gym sessions. I have to hide them from her. Wow,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: because she just works too much. She can never go.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: She's out the door at six point thirty in the morning,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: she gets home, put the kids to bed, she then
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: works again until like ten o'clock at night.
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  Speaker 2: So my hearing is you would hide them so that
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: she doesn't feel bad, is that she doesnt work so much.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: She does so much that she would get to do
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: like one gym session a week at the moment, like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: hardly anything.
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  Speaker 2: Do you hide them so she doesn't feel guilty she's
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: not doing enough.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Because then she'll be like if so when I go
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to the gym, I'll like jump in the ocean real
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: quick and get home so I've wet hair. Sometimes I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: won't jump in the ocean so it doesn't look like
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I've been to them, because then she gets upset she
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: knows I've been to the gym three or four times
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: in the week and she hasn't gone once. That level
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of imbalance will make her a little bit eggy. Okay,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And also I think just accentuate the fact that she
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: knows she hasn't been to the gym, so it makes
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: her even more frustrated at her self.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Right, that's.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So she's like, oh, your biceps are good, and I'm like.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Huh, genetics, Okay, well here we go. April goes to
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the gym six times a week, six times a week. Wow, mate.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: She gets up at four o'clock every morning. She gets
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: back and she comes in. Sometimes the kids aren't even
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: up yet. I'm not up yet. What a woman. I know.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: We did have a little discussions called it wasn't a
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: fight because obviously the five days during the week, the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: routine's pretty monotonous in the same right, especially in the mornings.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Get everyone gets up, does their thing, gets ready for
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: school and work, and goes on right. But then Saturday Sunday,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the variables in those days usually like she would have
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Saturday morning would be a slightly later class, would impede
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: on people being awake, impedes on family day. And then
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: it sort of gets to the time when she can
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: get back and it's a bit too late for me
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: to go, oh, can I quickly go do something before
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: By that time it's ten o'clock we've missed all the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: parking at the beach or whatever, and half the morning
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the kids are ratty whatever. And I said to April,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, maybe, like on that Saturday, don't
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: just assume that you're sweet to go to the gym.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe I want to do something, you know, like and
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: it was like she was like, oh, oh okay. But
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that was because we communicated. It didn't turn into a fight.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: But if this guy is like, Okay, well i've got
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: another child coming, my life is going to be really hectic.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I need I want to get this in now and
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: then get to when I've got to, And then it's
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: real tricky because he's trying to better himself at the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: same time. You can't prioritize that over your family's. There
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: was times when we were April and I were going
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: through it was like, Okay, well that's not a good
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: time to go because X, Y and Z there's twenty
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: four hours in a day you might have to go.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: And I used to go.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I used to put Oscar to sleep and I would
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: be in my wetsuit.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: What a full wetsuit in winter, because as soon as
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I put him down and he went to sleep, the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: transition was fine.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: But at the doorbell right the door, and they're like,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: why the fuck are you wearing a websit?
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Do you know how many times that he hasn't gone
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: to sleep and I've just I haven't been able to
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: go for a surf. But I was ready. That's how
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well, this is what's more important
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: to me. Was this to give April some reprieve. And
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: once he was asleep and settled, I knew I had
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: forty minutes because he would only sleep forty minutes to
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: run out the back of my house to the beach.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: It didn't matter what the surf looked like. Paddle out, Okay,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: if there was days that I would paddle out and
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: not get a single wave, turn around and paddle back in.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: The change of scenery, getting in the water made all
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the difference.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Abri would say, she said, once the kids
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: are in bed, you do whatever you fucking like. And
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: that could be go to the pub if I wanted to.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: But what was important is that transition was smooth, and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: if it didn't give my plans got fucked up. And
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: it was it is what it is, right, But I
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: don't know what the personality this guy's like and whether
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: if the goalpost move it would throw him right out.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: But I would say, if I'm going to give any advice,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: which I shouldn't, just have the conversation and say, what
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: does it look like for you when we've got a
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: newborn look like because at the moment, in an ideal world,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I'd like you to be here on these supporting these times,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: on these days because it's only for a short time,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and I would assume that he's not gone to the
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: gym that that time of the day to avoid them.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: But you need to have that conversation because you never
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: know what people are thinking mentally or what they might think. Oh, well,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: she hasn't pulled me up on it, so it must
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: be fine because you haven't pulled him up on it,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: So maybe have the conversation. That's what I would do,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Well said ash Well said, that's what I would expect.
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