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777 with Nick from Occult Rejects- Gematria Part 3 · The Occult Rejects

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Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen. What's going to happen?
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Speaker 1: I'll take one.
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Speaker 2: What was up? Everybody? Welcome to another seven seven seven.
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Speaker 2: I got my co host Nick here. We are going
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Speaker 2: over Crowley's Cabala, and I want to welcome any new
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Speaker 2: Rumble followers. I'm now streaming to Rumble, So if you're
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Speaker 2: over there, definitely come on by, give me a sub
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Speaker 2: check me out. We're going to be doing a lot
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Speaker 2: more content from there, so thank you very much for
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Speaker 2: for stopping by. Welcome eight, Young Stitches. Eight. You're always
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Speaker 2: there and I notice you. I noticed you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually I sent him out of a T shirt today.
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Speaker 1: I asked him for the information a couple of days ago,
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Speaker 1: last week. Sorry sorry they're sir, but he sent it
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Speaker 1: out today. But yeah, that guy's he's in every chat,
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Speaker 1: he's always promoting the shit. I was like, no, I
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Speaker 1: got to hook you up, my man. So I sent
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Speaker 1: up a T shirt and some stickers.
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Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome. So we're back on it. It's been a
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks now, Bumpy.
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Speaker 1: Well, I got sick and then then I scheduled the
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Speaker 1: Library of the Untold and totally realized I fucked off
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Speaker 1: the book and so finally.
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Speaker 2: And then I fell asleep during your Library of the Untold, which.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you weren't even there. I know, he totally forgot. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I guess it wasn't supposed to happen that week regardless.
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Speaker 2: I missed it. Gut, I gotta go back and watch.
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Speaker 2: Library the Untold is one of my favorite follows on YouTube.
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Speaker 2: That guy is like really in sync with my cosmology.
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Speaker 2: So if you guys don't know that guy, check him out,
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Speaker 2: go follow and sub him. He's got a lot of
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Speaker 2: information that I like to talk about a lot.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think one of his last videos he's
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Speaker 1: wearing our shirt too.
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Speaker 2: It right, that's great.
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Speaker 1: Oh, just a reminder for everybody to going forward after this,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have Headless stream this out to his YouTube,
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Speaker 1: So if you want to cast this live, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to stuggle on away to his YouTube. You don't
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Speaker 1: want to help him grow his shit, So I'm not
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Speaker 1: streaming it out on my end anymore after.
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Speaker 2: This, all right, Yeah, And it'll give a nice big archive,
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Speaker 2: so if you want to find all of the episodes
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Speaker 2: that we've done about this stuff, if you hear something
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Speaker 2: that we talk about that rings true. Go back and
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Speaker 2: we'll tell you the page number, we'll tell you all
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Speaker 2: the stuff that we're sort of talking about with it,
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Speaker 2: so that you can kind of get your head around it.
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Speaker 2: Because I think the main purpose of why we're doing
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Speaker 2: this is so that people can get their head around
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Speaker 2: the Kabbala and stop sort of bullshitting about what it is.
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Speaker 2: You know, this is Crowley's Kabbala. We don't need a
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Speaker 2: bullshit about it. You just have to know what this
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Speaker 2: is and what it means and what the implications are.
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Speaker 2: But if you don't have that, you just sound like
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Speaker 2: a crazy person ranting about stuff you don't understand. So
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Speaker 2: that's why we're reading through it.
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Speaker 1: Well in the occult world. I don't think it's too bad,
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Speaker 1: but I'm just going to keep it real and I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to be nasty or anything. But when it
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Speaker 1: comes to conspiracy theory world, I mean, when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the Kabbala that, in my opinion, completely fucking will.
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Speaker 1: Everybody thinks it's like automatically some like Joy's demon shit,
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Speaker 1: It's like really right, I don't know or or if
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Speaker 1: you have, if you're either of the Kabbala, you automatically
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Speaker 1: doing fucking horrible shit. It's like, really, like, I study
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Speaker 1: the Kabbala and I don't rape kids, Like what the
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Speaker 1: fuck exactly?
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Speaker 2: So what we're trying to get to is the understanding
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Speaker 2: of cosmology. This is a different form of cosmology than
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Speaker 2: you're used to. We're talking about numbers as being the
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Speaker 2: basic building block for everything else. That's what they believe
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Speaker 2: in Kabbala, That's what they believe with the ancient Greeks
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Speaker 2: when it comes to Pythagoras, numbers are the basic building blocks,
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Speaker 2: and this is what they've built off of it. So
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Speaker 2: unless you're really willing to get into this number stuff
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Speaker 2: and this jamatrious stuff, you're not going to understand the
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Speaker 2: Kabbala in the way that they've produced it. It's not
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Speaker 2: just the tree, it's everything. That's what they're trying to
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Speaker 2: get to. Is this the explanation for everything?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: And here we are on page oh man, where is
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Speaker 2: it all?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: This It says it's page thirteen, but in the PDF
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Speaker 2: it is page twenty nine. So if you're following along
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Speaker 2: with the PDF, that's where we're at. So let's see
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Speaker 2: where did we stop off advanced students?
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yep, I left all the smaller one. I
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Speaker 1: think you were going to read that, And then Prometheus
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Speaker 1: Lens popped up in the chat. We realized though, you
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Speaker 1: elite the show. You remember that? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: It was like eight Wait, that was a great episode too,
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Speaker 2: if I can find it, I'll share that one out
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Speaker 2: as well. But let's let's get it going here. Advanced
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Speaker 2: students should then go to the fountain Head nor von
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Speaker 2: Rosenroths Kabbala den Dudah Den Dudah for a study themselves.
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Speaker 2: It should not prove easy. Frod er P, after years
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Speaker 2: of study, confessed I can not get much out of Rosenroth,
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Speaker 2: and we may have now, froder P, that's Carly's name
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Speaker 2: inside of the lodge, right, the lodge name peradurbo oh
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Speaker 2: for you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd have to look at it to say it, right,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's one of Crowley's many alter egos Prabo. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Parabo the Beast, isn't that? Oh? Then he also thought
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Speaker 1: he was John D reincarnated too with some shit, right.
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Speaker 2: I could actually buy into that John D one because
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Speaker 2: he seemed, you know, kind of like a much more
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Speaker 2: uninhibited John D.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: So let's see, we may add that the only best
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Speaker 2: best minds are likely to obtain more than an academic
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Speaker 2: knowledge of a system which we suspect Rosenroth himself never
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Speaker 2: understood in any deeper sense. As a book of reference
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Speaker 2: to the hierarchical correspondences of the Kabbala. Of course, seven
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Speaker 2: seven to seven stands alone and un The graphic Kabala
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Speaker 2: has been already fully illustrated in this treatise to see
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Speaker 2: illustrations blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, lots of
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Speaker 2: illustrations by far. That and most account of the method
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Speaker 2: of Kabbala is that by an unknown author which mister
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Speaker 2: Alisair Crawley has printed at the end of the first
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Speaker 2: volume of his collected works, which we hear reprint in full.
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Speaker 2: Very nice Kamala dogma, oh, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: All right, sure, all right. The evolution of things is
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Speaker 1: thus described by the Cabalists. First is nothing or the
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Speaker 1: absence of things, which does not exist, and cannot mean
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Speaker 1: negatively existing, if such an idea can be said to
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Speaker 1: mean anything, As s let old McGregor Mathers, who misread
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Speaker 1: the text and sultified the commentary by the light of
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Speaker 1: his own ignorance of Hebrew and Philosophy pretends in his
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Speaker 1: translation of Rosen, I don't really know what that meant.
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Speaker 1: What he just said, right, the second is without limit
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Speaker 1: infinite space. And now I'm assuming what he's talking about
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Speaker 1: is to suffer. H okay, just let.
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Speaker 2: People mind and the soft hour. I think that's what
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Speaker 2: he's talking about.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. The second is without limit space, infinite space.
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Speaker 1: This is the primal dualism of infinite, of infinity, the infightly,
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Speaker 1: the infinitely small, and the infinitely great. The clash of
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Speaker 1: these produces a finite positive idea which happens, uh, which
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Speaker 1: happens to I'm sorry, I'm trying to look. I want
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Speaker 1: to skip all that shit. I'll just read it all right.
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Speaker 1: The idea which happens see in the sort of song
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Speaker 1: for a more careful study. Though I must not be
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Speaker 1: understood to endorse every word in our poet philosopher's thesis. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: this shit's like screwing. The class of these produces a
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Speaker 1: finite positive idea which happens to be light. This word
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Speaker 1: is most important. It symbolizes the universe immediately after chaos,
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Speaker 1: the confusion or clash of the infinite opposites. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what word that is is the whatever letter this
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Speaker 1: is is the egg of matter, and that is eight
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Speaker 1: the bull or energy motion and whatever letter that is
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Speaker 1: is the sun or organized and moving system of orbs.
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Speaker 1: These three letters of do you know what letters those are? Fuck?
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Speaker 2: I don't, but I've got up on the screen. You
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Speaker 2: remember doing the book review with jewels. They're using the
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Speaker 2: exact same symbol from this book that was by the
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Speaker 2: Martinists as they are for the Kabbalah. Right, So he says,
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Speaker 2: right there, you know, is the egg of matter.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think that is.
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Speaker 2: Actually the ain is the is the taurus, the bull,
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Speaker 2: the energy motion, and uh that is the sun. So
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Speaker 2: in essence, what they're saying is that, you know, they're
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Speaker 2: kind of in the same galaxy or in the same
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Speaker 2: ballpark as the Martinists and all the rest of the Freemasons.
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Speaker 2: It's all sort of based here in the kabbala if
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Speaker 2: you want to know about their cosmology here it is.
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Speaker 2: So that's the taurus bull or you know this sort
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Speaker 2: of linkage. Also John D. If we're going to talk
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Speaker 2: about John D in his oh man, what I'm blanking
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Speaker 2: out on the title of his book, But you know,
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Speaker 2: the one with the the figure of Hermes as like
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Speaker 2: the ultimate figure of the universe, where Hermes has the bullhead,
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Speaker 2: the Taurus head. It's what's it called something heptarchia. Now
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Speaker 2: it's the it's let me find it real quick. It's
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Speaker 2: it's his book about all of the figures.
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Speaker 1: Let me keep reading. Yeah, go ahead, alright, so yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that word is ain. Uh so uh
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Speaker 1: where did I leave the fuck? The three letters of
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Speaker 1: Ain thus repeat the three ideas. The nature of Ain
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Speaker 1: is thus analyzed under the figure of the ten numbers
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Speaker 1: and the twenty two letters, which together compose with the Rosicrucians,
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Speaker 1: have diagrammatized under the name of minutum mundum. It will
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Speaker 1: be noticed that every number in letter has its correspondence
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Speaker 1: in ideas of every sort, so that any given object
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Speaker 1: can be analyzed in terms of thirty two. If I
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Speaker 1: see a blue star, I should regard it as a
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Speaker 1: manifestation Chess said, water, the moon, salt, the alchemical principle sagittarius,
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Speaker 1: or whatnot. In respect of its blueness, one would have
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Speaker 1: to decide which from other data and refer it to
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Speaker 1: the twenty seventh key of the taro in respect of
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Speaker 1: its starriness. The use of these attributions is lengthy and various.
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Speaker 1: I cannot dwell upon it, but I will give one example.
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Speaker 1: If I wish to visit the sphere of Gerburr, I
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Speaker 1: use the colors and forces appropriate. I go there. If
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Speaker 1: the objects which then appear to my spiritual vision are
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Speaker 1: harmonious therewith it is one test of their truth. So
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Speaker 1: also to construct a talisman or to invoke a spirit.
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Speaker 1: The methods of discovering dogma from sacred words are also
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Speaker 1: numerous and important. I may mention the doctrine of sympathies
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Speaker 1: drawn from the total numeration of the word when identical
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Speaker 1: with or a multiple or sub multiple of, or a
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Speaker 1: metathesis of that of another word. Fucking understand what this
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Speaker 1: guy's saying, totally honestly. The method of finding the least
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Speaker 1: number of a word by adding and re adding the
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Speaker 1: digits of its total number and taking the corresponding key
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Speaker 1: of the taro as a key to the meaning of
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Speaker 1: the word. The method of analogies drawn from the shape
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Speaker 1: of the letters. The method of deduction is drawn from
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Speaker 1: the meanings and correspondences of the letters. The methods of
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Speaker 1: are acrostics. The method of our crows sticks drawn from
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Speaker 1: the letters. This mode is only valid for Adepts of
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Speaker 1: the highest grades and then under quite exceptional and rare conditions.
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Speaker 2: So all that army stuff where they turn everything into
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Speaker 2: a cross deck, that is the job of the highest
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Speaker 2: Adepts of the orders. That's fucking funny interesting, right, because
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Speaker 2: you know everything in the military, everything in the military
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Speaker 2: or the government, they all have these across sticks, all
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Speaker 2: these different letters that represent other things. And so what
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Speaker 2: he's saying is that if that is a method for
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Speaker 2: their you know, magical workings that would be the highest
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Speaker 2: initiates are putting together those letters in that governmental basis.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Is that the same thing of like like what we
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Speaker 1: were talking about before, I know, is that different? You
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Speaker 1: know how like that each that's like one letter for
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Speaker 1: each word.
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Speaker 2: Very similar, right, the first letter from each word. This
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Speaker 2: is how they're doing their formulations on more complex magical
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Speaker 2: workings that would those be considered there, you go, those
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Speaker 2: would be across stics as well. But you know, if
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Speaker 2: if if that's what they're doing, they're trying to formulate
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Speaker 2: based off of these interactions that they've had, which would
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Speaker 2: create these, you know, very meaningful letter combinations. That's sticking
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Speaker 2: brain and make people fear it and stuff. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you think about it makes sense. You give them
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Speaker 2: just three letter names, and then everybody that ascribes to
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Speaker 2: that three letter name becomes a part of that institution
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Speaker 2: on a spiritual level.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to read this last though, was his f
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Speaker 1: or something here, and then I'll let you take over. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the method of transpositions and transmutations of the letters, which
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Speaker 1: suggests analogies even when they fail to explain in direct fashion.
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Speaker 1: All right, there he goes.
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Speaker 2: All of these in their various combinations, with some other
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Speaker 2: more obtruse or less important methods may be used to
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Speaker 2: unlock the secret of a word. Of course, with the
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Speaker 2: power so wide, it is easy for a partisan to
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Speaker 2: find his favorite meaning in any word. Even the formula
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Speaker 2: formal proof of zero equals one equals two equals three
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Speaker 2: equals four equals five equals dot dot dot n is possible.
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Speaker 2: But the add who has worked out this theorem with
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Speaker 2: the very intent to discredit the cabalistic mode of research,
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Speaker 2: was suddenly dumbfounded by the fact that he actually stumbled
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Speaker 2: upon the cabbalistic proof of pantheism or monism. What really
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Speaker 2: happens is that the adept sits down and performs many
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Speaker 2: useless tricks with the figures. With that result, suddenly the
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Speaker 2: luxe dawns and the problem is solved. The rationalist explains
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Speaker 2: this by inspiration, the superstitious man by mathematics. That's interesting
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Speaker 2: how he has that sort of inversion there. So the
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Speaker 2: rationalist would turn to inspiration and the superstitious would turn
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Speaker 2: to science. I give an example of the way in
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Speaker 2: which one works. Let us take Iao, one of the
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Speaker 2: barbarous names of evocation. This is all over the Greek
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Speaker 2: magical papiri too, So the Iao formula is all over there.
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Speaker 2: They're always making these sounds using Iao as the base.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one that's using the hexagrammer's rule to Aeo.
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Speaker 2: Right of which those who have wished to conceal their
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Speaker 2: own glory by adopting the authority of Zarathustra have said
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Speaker 2: that in the holy ceremonies it has an ineffable power.
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Speaker 2: But what kind of power? By the Kabbala, we can
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Speaker 2: find out the force of the name Iao. We can
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Speaker 2: spell it in Hebrew ain Alif Yod or Sadi now
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Speaker 2: it's not Saudi, something alive, and then you know whatever
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Speaker 2: that one is. The Kabbala will then even tell us
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Speaker 2: which is the true way. Let us, however, suppose that
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Speaker 2: it is spelled that way. This adds up to seventeen seventeen.
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Speaker 2: But first of all, it strikes us that I, A,
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Speaker 2: and O are the three letters associated with the read
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Speaker 2: with the letters blah blah of the great name of
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Speaker 2: six letters, which this would be the yoda hey val
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Speaker 2: hey letters hey in the six letter name, which would
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Speaker 2: be Yeshua, which combines yodey. No, that's not a valve,
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Speaker 2: that's another hey. Hey, I'm hey alif and hey ain
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Speaker 2: a hey yode, macro posophos and microsoft posophos. Now these
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Speaker 2: feminine letters hey, conceal the three mothers of the alphabet, olive, dala,
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Speaker 2: and shin. Replace these letters and we get blah blah blah,
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Speaker 2: which adds up to three point fifty eight, which the
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Speaker 2: number alike shin hey, And that's the l I believe
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Speaker 2: the serpent of Genesis and Messiah, Oh well, he's he
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Speaker 2: he's letting all the beans out of the bag. There.
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Speaker 2: The serpent in Genesis is Jesus, and they've come to
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Speaker 2: that through cabalistic means. So he's just kind of like
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Speaker 2: dropping that on the table. Oops, we just put it
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Speaker 2: out there. We thus look for redeeming power in iao,
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Speaker 2: for the masculine aspect of that power. Now we see
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Speaker 2: how that power works. We have a curious dictionary which
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Speaker 2: has made by very learned men, in which the numbers
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Speaker 2: one through ten thousand filled the left hand column in order,
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Speaker 2: and oppose them and opposite them are written all the
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Speaker 2: sacred or important words which add up to each number.
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Speaker 2: You want to take it there.
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Speaker 1: Sure it up too. We take this book and looked,
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Speaker 1: that's correct. Right. We take this book and let's right.
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Speaker 1: We take this book and look at seventeen. We find
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Speaker 1: that seventeen is the number of squares in this which
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Speaker 1: is the whirling disc or thunderbolt. Also there is I
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Speaker 1: don't know, is that ein a circle or orbit to
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Speaker 1: see a boil in some other words which we neglect
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Speaker 1: in this example, though we should not dare to do so.
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Speaker 1: If we were really trying to find out a thing.
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Speaker 1: To try to find out a thing, we none of us,
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Speaker 1: we none of us knew.
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Speaker 2: Now there is there's a lot of capitalizations in this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing is capitalized too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so example and things should not be capitalized,
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Speaker 2: and yet they are. There's a couple more on the
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Speaker 2: other page. If you're looking for a code to decode here,
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Speaker 2: it is look for all of the improperly capitalized words
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Speaker 2: and then plug that into something because he's trying to
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Speaker 2: say something else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is again another thing that is in the uh,
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Speaker 1: the vision and the voice notes. He's specifically telling his
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Speaker 1: editor that these letters need to be left like that.
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Speaker 1: So he's purposely capitalizing letters for a reason. There's tons
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Speaker 1: of jamatri even in his notes to show you that
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Speaker 1: this guy is ciphering shit. So again, not trying to
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Speaker 1: like promote the dude. It's just that there's a lot.
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Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you're reading by him, you can't take
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Speaker 1: it at face value. That's just my opinion, right.
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Speaker 2: And if the audience knows about special agents six sixty six,
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Speaker 2: this is a highly valued skill. If you can take
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Speaker 2: all of this knowledge and then put it into a
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Speaker 2: code or something like that that is just improperly capitalized
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Speaker 2: letters in a book all about Jamatria, then you've got
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Speaker 2: a power that a lot of people don't have. So
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Speaker 2: this would make them very attractive to the deep state
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Speaker 2: for their ability to create ciphers out out of basically nothing.
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Speaker 1: So you know, I've actually wondered, and I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: isn't the case, at least not with intelligence, but I've
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Speaker 1: even wondered, like, Yo, is there any like has he
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Speaker 1: ciphered like his own intelligence shit into his own work?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like if you knew a cipher,
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Speaker 1: could you go through his shit and you'd actually see
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Speaker 1: his intelligence? I hid stuff like him telling his you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of telling on his intelligence whenever he was doing
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Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying? Or was there messages
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Speaker 1: being related there? Right?
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Speaker 2: And if you if you think about how these occultists
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Speaker 2: would pass on their legacy to the next person, Like
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Speaker 2: Crowley was supposed to pass on his legacy legacy to
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Speaker 2: one person and then ended up in this squabble between
21:34
Speaker 2: two of them and didn't end up giving his full
21:37
Speaker 2: blessing to a successor. I think this goes into a
21:41
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff too. If you're not actually decoding
21:44
Speaker 2: all of the stuff that he's written, he's not going
21:46
Speaker 2: to choose you as a successor, right, So you've got
21:49
Speaker 2: to be able to figure out what he's really saying
21:51
Speaker 2: before he could pass on his legacy to you. And
21:53
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody did that to him. You know,
21:56
Speaker 2: they were all just sort of like, well, I've read
21:58
Speaker 2: the surface level shit, but were they actually listening to
22:01
Speaker 2: what he was really saying.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go back to the medios came over
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Speaker 1: the screen to look at you. Uh, oh shit, where
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Speaker 1: did I just leave that off?
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Speaker 2: We also work in another way.
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Speaker 1: Oh, we also work in another way. I is the
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Speaker 1: straight line or central pillar. I think that's an I right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: is the straight line or central pillar of the temple
22:24
Speaker 1: of life. Also it stands for unity and for the
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Speaker 1: genitorive force. A is the pentagram, which means the will
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Speaker 1: of man working redemption. Oh is the circle from which
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Speaker 1: everything came. Also nothingness and the female who absorbs the male.
22:45
Speaker 1: That makes sense though, the egg and the sperm. Right.
22:48
Speaker 1: The progress, Yeah, the poles and holes. There we go
22:51
Speaker 1: back to io again. The progress of the name shows
22:56
Speaker 1: then the way from life to nirvana by means of
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Speaker 1: the will, and is a hieroglyph, and is a hieroglyph
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Speaker 1: of the great work. Look at all our meanings. Everyone
23:08
Speaker 1: shows that the name, if it has any power at all,
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Speaker 1: and that we must try has the power to redeem
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Speaker 1: us from the love of life, which is the cause
23:18
Speaker 1: of life by its masculine whirlings, and to gladden us,
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Speaker 1: to bring us to the bosom of the great mother Death.
23:26
Speaker 1: Death told you need to die right before what is
23:31
Speaker 1: known as the equinox of the gods. A little while
23:34
Speaker 1: ago there was an initiated formula which expressed these ideas
23:38
Speaker 1: to the wise. As these formulas are done with, it
23:41
Speaker 1: is of no consequence. It is of no consequence if
23:45
Speaker 1: I reveal them. Truth is not eternal any more than God,
23:49
Speaker 1: and it would be, and it would be but a
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Speaker 1: poor God that could not and did not alter his
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Speaker 1: ways at his pleasure. This formula was used to or
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Speaker 1: in the vault of the mystic mountain of Aberjeans Abenis.
24:05
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm saying that, right within which
24:08
Speaker 1: lay so the ceremony of Initiation supposed the body of
24:12
Speaker 1: our father Christian Rosencrutz to be discovered by the brethren
24:16
Speaker 1: with the postulate as said in the book called Fama Frattanatis,
24:21
Speaker 1: which that is a rosic supposed rosicrucion book. I've even
24:27
Speaker 1: said myself because of how many times Crowley goes on
24:31
Speaker 1: about Rose. I do wonder, It's just I just have
24:35
Speaker 1: other ideas if this is not the OTO, maybe the OTO.
24:40
Speaker 1: I think there's some rosicrucion flair within his work. Let
24:44
Speaker 1: just put it that way. I would I wouldn't wonder
24:46
Speaker 1: if dot was an actual Rosicrucian order.
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Speaker 2: Well, like I was just showing you from that other book,
24:53
Speaker 2: that's that's the basis of Rosicrucianism too. So Martinism is
24:57
Speaker 2: at the heart of both Rosicrucianism and and all this
25:01
Speaker 2: OTO stuff and Voodoo and Mormonism. So this book back
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Speaker 2: of the seventeen hundreds called on the Treatise on the
25:10
Speaker 2: Reintegration of Being is an unmentioned influence on stuff like
25:16
Speaker 2: Crowley seven seven seven and pretty much anything that mentions
25:19
Speaker 2: Christian Rosencrups because they were sort of carrying on the
25:22
Speaker 2: tradition there, and we can see that coming into Pennsylvania
25:26
Speaker 2: in Beverly Hall. It's the very same book that sort
25:30
Speaker 2: of inspired all that. So the Treatise on the Integration
25:32
Speaker 2: of Being is a really valuable fundamental source that I
25:36
Speaker 2: think a lot of people just overlook. You wanting to
25:41
Speaker 2: pick it up there.
25:42
Speaker 1: Oh no, well, I'll finish off the I guess you
25:44
Speaker 1: know doing this thing here, and then after the assign
25:47
Speaker 1: of a cyrus ln, I'll let you take over. Yeah.
25:49
Speaker 1: There are three officers and they repeat the analysis of
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Speaker 1: the word as follows. Chief, let us analyze the keyword I,
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Speaker 1: second n third are all I chief yode second none
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Speaker 1: third resh all yode Chief Virgo isis mighty mother, second
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Speaker 1: Scorpio Apophus destroyer, third soul Osiris slain, and risen all
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Speaker 1: isis Apophus osiris. Eoh, that is also what you will
26:26
Speaker 1: that whole Virgo and Scorpio part. That whole thing is
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Speaker 1: in the formula for the hexagram ritual. Very interesting. All
26:35
Speaker 1: spread arms as if on a cross and say the
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Speaker 1: sign of Osiris slain. That's exactly what you would do
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Speaker 1: to You can take it over from the now.
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Speaker 2: All right. Chief bows his head to the left, raises
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Speaker 2: his right arm, and lowers his left, keeping the elbow
26:54
Speaker 2: at right angle angles, thus forming the letter L. Also
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Speaker 2: the lostica the sign of the morning of isis second
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Speaker 2: with erect head raises his arms to form a V,
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Speaker 2: but really to form the triple tongue of flames of
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Speaker 2: the spirit or shin, and says the sign of Apothus
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Speaker 2: and typhon Apophus and type phone. Third, bows his head
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Speaker 2: and crosses his arms on his breast to form the pentagram.
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Speaker 2: The sign of Osiris risen. All give the sign of
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Speaker 2: the cross and say l v X, then the sign
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Speaker 2: of Osiris. Then the sign of Osiri's risen, and say
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Speaker 2: lucks the light of the Cross. This formula, on which
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Speaker 2: one may meditate for years without exhausting its wonderful harmonies,
27:45
Speaker 2: gives an excellent idea of the way in which Kabbalistic
27:49
Speaker 2: analysis is conducted. First, the letters have been written in
27:53
Speaker 2: Hebrew characters. Then the attributions of them to the zodiac
27:57
Speaker 2: and to the planet planets are substituted. That's the big
28:01
Speaker 2: takeaway from Greek Kabala versus Hebrew Kabala is that now
28:06
Speaker 2: they're putting in the zodiac, now they're putting in the planets.
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Speaker 2: This is kind of different from what the original you know,
28:13
Speaker 2: Jewish sources of Kabbala are doing. And it says then
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Speaker 2: the names of the Egyptian gods belonging to these are invoked. Again.
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Speaker 2: This is a very Greek formula. The Christian idea of
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Speaker 2: I n ri I is confirmed by these, while their
28:30
Speaker 2: initials form the sacred word of gnosis, that is Iaoh.
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Speaker 2: From the character of the deities and their functions are
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Speaker 2: deduced their signs, and these are found to signal, as
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Speaker 2: it were, the word lux, which itself is contained in
28:48
Speaker 2: the cross signal as it were, the word lux which
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Speaker 2: is containing a careful study of these ideas, and the
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Speaker 2: table of correspondences which one of our great English brethren
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Speaker 2: is making and will enable him to discover very great,
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Speaker 2: a very great deal of matter for thought in these poems,
29:09
Speaker 2: which an untutored person would pass by. Again, it's deceptively simple.
29:16
Speaker 2: An untutored person would pass by them entirely. No I
29:24
Speaker 2: can keep going. To return to the general dogma of
29:26
Speaker 2: the cabbalist, the figure of minimum mundum will show how
29:31
Speaker 2: they suppose one quality to proceed from the last, first
29:35
Speaker 2: in the pure god word at Zeluth, and then in
29:39
Speaker 2: the angel word Briah, and so on down the demon worlds,
29:44
Speaker 2: which are, however, not thus organized. They are rather material
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Speaker 2: that was shed off in the course of evolution, like
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Speaker 2: the sloughs of a serpent, from which comes their name
29:56
Speaker 2: of shells, or husks. Apart from silly questions as to
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Speaker 2: whether the order of emanation is confirmed by palaeontology, a
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Speaker 2: question it is quite impertinent to discuss, there is no
30:10
Speaker 2: doubt that the sephiroth are types of evolution as opposed
30:13
Speaker 2: to catastrophe and creation. So this is also a big uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of a jump from science itself. So
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Speaker 2: he's saying that the sephiroth are types of evolution, probably
30:27
Speaker 2: within living material, as opposed to catastrophe and creation being
30:32
Speaker 2: the sort of non living type of evolutions. The great
30:36
Speaker 2: charge against this philosophy is founded on its alleged affinities
30:41
Speaker 2: with scholastic realism. But the charge is not very true,
30:45
Speaker 2: no doubt, but they are. But they did suppose vast
30:50
Speaker 2: storehouses of things of one kind, from which pure or
30:55
Speaker 2: mingled all other things did proceed. Since Gemmel a camel
31:02
Speaker 2: refers to the moon, they say. They did say that
31:06
Speaker 2: a camel and the moon were sympathetic, and came that
31:10
Speaker 2: part of them from a common principle, and that of
31:13
Speaker 2: a camel being yellow brown, it partook of the earth
31:17
Speaker 2: nature to which that color is given fence. They said
31:22
Speaker 2: that by taking all of these natures involved in by
31:25
Speaker 2: blending them in just proportions, one might have a camel.
31:31
Speaker 2: But this is no more than is said by the
31:35
Speaker 2: upholders of the atomic theory. They have their storehouse of carbon,
31:40
Speaker 2: oxygen and such not in one place, but no more
31:44
Speaker 2: is Gebura in one place. And what is organic chemistry
31:49
Speaker 2: but the production of useful compounds whose nature is deduced
31:53
Speaker 2: absolutely from theoretical considerations long before it was ever produced
31:57
Speaker 2: in the laboratory. So I'll leave it there. But I
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Speaker 2: think what he's saying is that what they're talking about
32:05
Speaker 2: is the meanings behind things as opposed to their absolute
32:10
Speaker 2: evolutionary and material meanings. Right, So these are different ways
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Speaker 2: of changing or metamorphoses as opposed to absolute material equations.
32:24
Speaker 2: Is that what you're kind of thinking too?
32:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want me to read up until the
32:29
Speaker 1: fun changes and then we'll leave it there for next
32:31
Speaker 1: week another page and a half. One thing I did
32:34
Speaker 1: want to go over to just real quick, I mean
32:37
Speaker 1: not just you know, if people are interested, I should
32:39
Speaker 1: have actually probably read a little bit more. Let you
32:41
Speaker 1: take over. I did want to go over the signs
32:44
Speaker 1: that he does talk about. Again, this is all I mean,
32:47
Speaker 1: A lot of this is pretty much straight out of
32:49
Speaker 1: the hexagram ritual. But yeah, the sign of Osiris slain
32:55
Speaker 1: will be that you'll make the sign of the cross.
32:57
Speaker 1: Then the sign of the morning of ices go like
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Speaker 1: that and you're making a swasticker actually, then the sign
33:04
Speaker 1: of Apophus and typhon you may kind of like the
33:07
Speaker 1: P symbol or why, and then uh, the sign of
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Speaker 1: a cyrus risen and then you'll cross your arms and
33:14
Speaker 1: then uh, yeah, what does it do after that? Then
33:17
Speaker 1: it says au lux. It will go l v X
33:21
Speaker 1: and then you'll say, luke's the light of the cross.
33:26
Speaker 1: Do that again. Yeah, but that's like pretty much the
33:30
Speaker 1: whole Uh, that's all like the things that you'll the
33:33
Speaker 1: signs that you'll make. The hexagrammar tool was right there,
33:37
Speaker 1: and then be pro after you wait. After you do that,
33:41
Speaker 1: I think is then when you go and start making
33:45
Speaker 1: each direction, you have two triangles that you'll be drawing
33:48
Speaker 1: in different ways. Only one of them doesn't actually make
33:51
Speaker 1: like what we call the star of David. That one
33:53
Speaker 1: I think is maybe to the I can't I don't
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Speaker 1: want to fuck up, But there's only one of those
34:00
Speaker 1: that are made. Some of them are just like the
34:02
Speaker 1: triangle like kind of like this, and then reflect it
34:05
Speaker 1: upside down or like one like that, and then one
34:09
Speaker 1: like that on top of it. So it's not like
34:11
Speaker 1: it's not even always that actual hexagram. It's just taking
34:15
Speaker 1: those two triangles and fucking around with them too. So yeah,
34:20
Speaker 1: it's and then you'll draw those in each corner. And
34:22
Speaker 1: then depending on what you're doing, if you're invoking, you'll
34:24
Speaker 1: start from a different area. If you're invoking, you'll probably
34:27
Speaker 1: end up going like that. If you're banishing, you're planning
34:30
Speaker 1: up starting drawing like that. Same thing with the Pentagram ritual.
34:33
Speaker 1: If you're going to invoke. If you're going to invoke,
34:36
Speaker 1: you're normally going drawing it up like that. If you're banishing,
34:39
Speaker 1: you're normally bringing down. And then, even on the Pentagram ritual,
34:41
Speaker 1: depending on what element you're dealing with, if you're getting specific,
34:44
Speaker 1: you have to start at different areas. Same thing with
34:47
Speaker 1: the Pentagram ritual. Depending on what element you know, what
34:49
Speaker 1: area you're dealing with, you're gonna be drawing from a
34:51
Speaker 1: different way as well. Just throw that in there for
34:54
Speaker 1: people don't know.
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Speaker 2: Right, and they don't really give you an explanation as
34:59
Speaker 2: to why to do all this stuff in his other books.
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Speaker 1: No, no, they no, they tell you what to do, yeah,
35:05
Speaker 1: but they really don't like give you a reason like why. Well,
35:07
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they'll tell you like this is
35:08
Speaker 1: meaning that, but not what you know exactly. They're not
35:11
Speaker 1: really telling you much else. Right, there's even like so
35:15
Speaker 1: much stuff, there's so much stuff even in Crowley's ritual
35:18
Speaker 1: that this stuff done that like people like today will
35:22
Speaker 1: even kind of like not argue over, but like still theorizing,
35:24
Speaker 1: like why the fuck are you even doing it like that,
35:27
Speaker 1: like when he does the sign of normally and then
35:30
Speaker 1: I'll shut up and start reading normally. Whenever you go
35:34
Speaker 1: like to whatever corner and you draw your thing and
35:37
Speaker 1: you know, you vibrate the God name. When you're done,
35:39
Speaker 1: you bring your lip to your mouth, you finger to
35:41
Speaker 1: your lip, and you just go like that. And that's
35:43
Speaker 1: the sign of silence in his Uh in his Star Ruby,
35:50
Speaker 1: you start off with your finger against your lip and
35:54
Speaker 1: then like you even move your leg and then swipe
35:56
Speaker 1: down in backwards and you start off going Apa Ponto's
35:58
Speaker 1: kaka dominos. So it's like even like he even almost
36:01
Speaker 1: almost does it backwards, like you're actually doing the sin
36:03
Speaker 1: of silence. Backwards. It's very weird. So you know, all
36:08
Speaker 1: that shit I do believe means something so.
36:12
Speaker 2: Right, But these are all physical formulations of these god
36:16
Speaker 2: names that they've taken from the Kabbala. So it is
36:18
Speaker 2: all based on the Kabbala. Even if you see them
36:21
Speaker 2: doing weird hand signs, what that is is supposed to
36:24
Speaker 2: be drawing back from this cosmology which encompasses everything into
36:29
Speaker 2: a very specific use case. So all of these formulas
36:32
Speaker 2: are based off of this underlying cosmology.
36:35
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll continue. The difference you will say is that
36:40
Speaker 1: the Kabbalists maintain a mind of each kind behind each
36:44
Speaker 1: class of things of one kind. But so did Berkeley,
36:48
Speaker 1: and his argument in that respect is, as the great
36:52
Speaker 1: Huxley showed, a ref refugable for by the universe, I
36:58
Speaker 1: mean the sensible. Any other is not to be known,
37:02
Speaker 1: and the sensible is dependent upon mind. Nay, though the
37:08
Speaker 1: sensible is said to be an argument of a universe insensible,
37:12
Speaker 1: the latter became sensible to mind as soon as the
37:15
Speaker 1: argument is accepted and disappears with its rejection. Nor is
37:20
Speaker 1: the Kabbala dependent upon its realism and its application to
37:24
Speaker 1: the works magical. But I am defending a philosophy which
37:27
Speaker 1: I was asked to describe, and this is not lawful.
37:32
Speaker 1: A great deal may be learned from the translation of
37:35
Speaker 1: the Zohar by s. Ladel McGregor Mathers and his introduction
37:40
Speaker 1: their toe, though for those who have Latin and some
37:45
Speaker 1: acquaintance with Hebrew, it is better to study the kabbalaw
37:50
Speaker 1: data or of nor von Rosenworth in despite of the
37:56
Speaker 1: heavy price, for the translator has distorted the t and
38:00
Speaker 1: it's comment to suit his belief in a supreme personal God,
38:05
Speaker 1: and in that degradate, degradate, and in that degraded form
38:09
Speaker 1: of the doctrine of feminism which is so popular with
38:12
Speaker 1: the emasculine.
38:14
Speaker 2: Oh shots fired.
38:18
Speaker 1: The sep are grouped in various ways. There's a superior
38:24
Speaker 1: triad or trinity, a hext said and malcouth, the crown,
38:28
Speaker 1: the father and the mother, the son or king and
38:32
Speaker 1: the bride. Also a division into seven places, seven planes,
38:37
Speaker 1: three pillars or columns, and the like. The flashing sword
38:42
Speaker 1: follows the course of the numbers, and the serpent neck Nakushtan.
38:49
Speaker 1: I don't know how, probably fucking that up or of
38:52
Speaker 1: wisdom crawls up the paths which join them upon the
38:56
Speaker 1: tree of life, namely the letters. It is important to
38:59
Speaker 1: Wix playing the position of Doth or knowledge upon the tree.
39:03
Speaker 1: It is called the child of Chokeman Banah, but it
39:06
Speaker 1: hath no place. But it is rarely the apex of
39:10
Speaker 1: a pyramid, of which the three first numbers from form
39:14
Speaker 1: the base. Now the tree or minutum mundum is here.
39:21
Speaker 1: I've never actually heard that before, except they're thinking to here.
39:25
Speaker 2: I like that.
39:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, is a figure in a plane of Yeah, it's
39:29
Speaker 1: interesting to keep it with the MM two. But different,
39:31
Speaker 1: you know, because the mass of them is a figure
39:35
Speaker 1: in a plane of a solid universe. Doth, being above
39:39
Speaker 1: the plane, is therefore a figure of a force in
39:42
Speaker 1: four dimensions, and thus it is the object of the
39:45
Speaker 1: magnum opus. The three paths which connect it with the
39:50
Speaker 1: First Trinity are the or the three lost letters or
39:54
Speaker 1: fathers of the Hebrew alphabet. In Doth is said to
39:59
Speaker 1: be the head of the great serpent na chesh O Leviathan,
40:06
Speaker 1: called evil to conceal its holiness. It is identical with
40:11
Speaker 1: the Kundalini of the Hindu philosophy and the quancion of
40:15
Speaker 1: the Mongolian peoples, and means the magical force in man,
40:19
Speaker 1: which is the sexual force applied to the brain, heart
40:23
Speaker 1: and other organs, and redeemeth him. The gradual disclosure of
40:28
Speaker 1: these magical secrets to the poet may be traced in
40:31
Speaker 1: these volumes, which it has been my privilege to be
40:35
Speaker 1: asked to explain. It has been impossible to do more
40:39
Speaker 1: than place in the hands of any intellect way, it
40:43
Speaker 1: has been impossible to do more than place in the
40:46
Speaker 1: hands of any intelligent person the keys which will permit
40:49
Speaker 1: him to unlock the many beautiful chambers of holiness in
40:53
Speaker 1: these places and gardens of beauty and pleasure.
40:59
Speaker 2: Right, and let's remember this is page thirty five.
41:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna write down every week, you know, every week,
41:08
Speaker 1: don't lie. I'm always like yo, hell list, do you
41:10
Speaker 1: remember what we left on? Because either I'll leave the
41:13
Speaker 1: page open and then like the thing will like restart
41:16
Speaker 1: itself because it updated, or like I'll start going through
41:20
Speaker 1: it and forget to go back. It's like maybe I
41:22
Speaker 1: should write it down like a normal person would.
41:26
Speaker 2: Right, So essentially what he's finishing off there is what
41:30
Speaker 2: he sort of dropped like a fart in church earlier,
41:33
Speaker 2: which is that the snake the serpent is also Jesus
41:38
Speaker 2: according to the Kabbalist, the you know, the Jewish Cabalist.
41:44
Speaker 2: So one of the reasons why a lot of people
41:47
Speaker 2: have come across the idea that the Jews hate Jesus
41:51
Speaker 2: is partially this reason. They're trying to conceal the holiness
41:55
Speaker 2: of the serpent. They keep talking about how evil the
41:57
Speaker 2: serpent is, evil, evil, evil, But in essence, what they're
42:01
Speaker 2: trying to do is conceal the holiness of the serpent.
42:04
Speaker 2: That's what he's sort of dropping there. Is Like, according
42:07
Speaker 2: to the Gematria, the reason why they don't like the
42:10
Speaker 2: serpent is because they don't want other people to have it.
42:13
Speaker 2: They don't want other people to know about it. And
42:15
Speaker 2: like he was saying, right here, look at the bronze
42:18
Speaker 2: serpent and be healed. That's something in the Old Testament
42:21
Speaker 2: where Moses lifts up the bronze serpent and everybody bows
42:24
Speaker 2: to it and they get healed of their sicknesses. Well,
42:27
Speaker 2: what is Jesus say in the New Testament? Just as
42:31
Speaker 2: the serpent was raised up in the wilderness, so too
42:34
Speaker 2: will the son of Man be raised up. So there
42:37
Speaker 2: is a very distinct contextual analysis that actually puts these
42:43
Speaker 2: two concepts together within the Bible itself. So a lot
42:46
Speaker 2: of this stuff is found in the Kabbala, and you're
42:49
Speaker 2: not going to know what they're talking about or why
42:51
Speaker 2: they have certain views that you don't really understand because
42:56
Speaker 2: all of the rabbis have to be trained in the
42:59
Speaker 2: Kabbala by eight. So this is why you have these
43:02
Speaker 2: different sects of Judaism that are very heavy into this stuff.
43:05
Speaker 2: Is they're looking into the text, they're finding out the numbers,
43:09
Speaker 2: and they're trying to use that to its maximum potential.
43:16
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a good episode. We went a
43:19
Speaker 2: little over, but yeah, this is what I'm talking about. Guys,
43:22
Speaker 2: if you don't know the Kabala, you don't know what
43:25
Speaker 2: these people are talking about. So if you want to
43:27
Speaker 2: know about the occultism behind it, all you got to
43:29
Speaker 2: do is pick up this or the Zohar or one
43:32
Speaker 2: of these other books and really start to dig into it.
43:34
Speaker 2: You're not gonna have so far before you start, right,
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Speaker 2: You're not gonna go far before you find this stuff,
43:39
Speaker 2: and it's right there in front of you. And some
43:42
Speaker 2: of it's not gonna be easily understood, but others it's
43:44
Speaker 2: going to be very very readily understood. And that's that's
43:47
Speaker 2: what we're trying to get to is having people have
43:49
Speaker 2: a basic understanding of this stuff is so vital so
43:52
Speaker 2: that you don't sound like a complete moron.
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Speaker 1: I would even suggest that people are really looking into it.
43:59
Speaker 1: You can easily find PDFs for free. I'm just keeping
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Speaker 1: it real. No, the authors are gonna be happy about it.
44:03
Speaker 1: But Gonfortune and Gareth Knight, his Gareth Knight has the
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Speaker 1: paths besides the Sepharo Gigantic book. How highly suggest that.
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Speaker 1: But you can easily find pds on those. And I
44:15
Speaker 1: do think that those are definitely thorough, thorough books on
44:19
Speaker 1: the Kabbala to get you started. Yeah, and you know
44:23
Speaker 1: what you'll go through then you won't find one ritual.
44:27
Speaker 1: Do you ever realize that too? I mean, I mean technically,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know seven seven seven is like kind
44:33
Speaker 1: of giving you the tools. But you know, even when
44:36
Speaker 1: you get into the Kabbala, like if you're like actually
44:39
Speaker 1: like studying it or even like harmetically, there's that are
44:42
Speaker 1: like a ritual in there. It's just all like ideas
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Speaker 1: and archetypes of existence, the philosophy. That's why when people
44:49
Speaker 1: are like going on about like Oh, that must be
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Speaker 1: like that horrible, like you know, satanic ritual and I'm
44:53
Speaker 1: just like, but like, where's where's the ritual that comes
44:56
Speaker 1: with kabbala? You know what I'm saying. It's like you
44:59
Speaker 1: use rituals and somehow work about into it. That's what
45:04
Speaker 1: you're doing. That's why I never understood when I hear
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Speaker 1: people say that, because it's like you obviously you actually
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Speaker 1: got it backwards to an extent.
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Speaker 2: Right, So this is the commonly agreed upon metaphysics of
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Speaker 2: the occultists. What they do with that, that's that's their business.
45:21
Speaker 2: But you have to at least understand the commonly agreed
45:24
Speaker 2: upon cosmology of the occultists. That's what we're going over.
45:28
Speaker 2: So they're not going to put any Why would they
45:30
Speaker 2: even do that? I mean, think about it real quick.
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Speaker 2: Why would you put all the demonic stuff in the
45:34
Speaker 2: source material? For all the things that you do afterwards?
45:38
Speaker 2: You would want to keep that in your own sort
45:40
Speaker 2: of separate things so that you're not tainting the well
45:43
Speaker 2: that other people are going to. Other people have made
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Speaker 2: satanic cabala's, absolutely, but are they the same thing as
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Speaker 2: the source material? No? No, it's not.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, Thank you, sir, I appreciate that, and yes, I
45:56
Speaker 1: got I got almost it's almost a cholly brown tree
45:58
Speaker 1: behind me. If it was any worse, I plugged that
46:01
Speaker 1: motherfuckering aill look a little bit better. Plus I gotta
46:03
Speaker 1: pull it up. Somebody's making comments about my Christmas.
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Speaker 2: I love your Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Man, actually like dread putting it up. I'm like, like
46:18
Speaker 1: for who, like my father said, my father sent it
46:21
Speaker 1: to me. So now I was just like, funk, I
46:23
Speaker 1: gotta put it off, and like you may I even
46:24
Speaker 1: put on the show. He does actually watch the podcast,
46:27
Speaker 1: believe it.
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Speaker 2: It's great for the audience. We can we can put
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Speaker 2: gifts of content under the tree for next year.
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'll just forget.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you guys for coming by, and we will
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Speaker 1: Rumble on YouTube over to his YouTube channel. After this
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Speaker 1: week it'sack on on the cult reject So you gotta
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Speaker 2: So you got it, well, thank you guys for joining us,
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