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Laguna Talks Art+ Nature with Julie Perlin Lee · Laguna Talks

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  Speaker 1: Like as humanly possible right right for their quality of
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  Speaker 1: life and their quality of living and there's really no
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  Speaker 1: program like that on the west coast so we would
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  Speaker 1: be the first in that space so you know we're
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  Speaker 1: always trying to find ways to uh take the technical
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  Speaker 1: capabilities of our students and apply them into industries in
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  Speaker 1: different areas um our fine art drawing and painting students
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  Speaker 1: may never have thought of that as a possibility but
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  Speaker 1: it can be a great income while you're also building
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  Speaker 1: your portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely and i you know i i've always like
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  Speaker 2: i say i encourage uh you know, people who are
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  Speaker 2: kind of singularly focused on, you know, their painting skills
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  Speaker 2: or whatever to, you know, take advantage of other opportunities
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  Speaker 2: that may present themselves. Or, you know, if something like
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  Speaker 2: you just described comes up in the curriculum, like, go
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  Speaker 2: take a stab at it and see how it feels
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  Speaker 2: because there are ways of living a very creative lifestyle
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  Speaker 2: and still, you know, having the, fulfilling your economic needs
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  Speaker 2: as well, you know, because a lot of times trying
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  Speaker 2: to just sell paintings isn't, isn't that easy, you know, especially, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the way things have gone and, you know, the last
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  Speaker 2: six years since COVID, you know, so, um, well, listen, Mark, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you taking time out of your day.
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  Speaker 2: I hope that, uh, anybody who's listening out there can
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  Speaker 2: understand that we live in a college town. I like
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  Speaker 2: to say that because it, it, it makes me feel good.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in a college town and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: been the, uh, the, uh, product of two, uh, college
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  Speaker 2: level professors, you know, and so, uh, knowing that we
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  Speaker 2: live in a college town, at least for me as,
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  Speaker 2: as a real plus. And I, I think people should
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  Speaker 2: appreciate that and, and help support that as much as
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  Speaker 2: possible through, uh, supporting the student programs at LCAD, uh,
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  Speaker 2: supporting LCAD. I know, you know, the generosity of people
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  Speaker 2: like the quilter family is, is hard to match, but, uh,
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  Speaker 2: there's other ways you can support the school by, by just, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, uh, understanding what it's about. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you know anybody who's going there, you know, just, uh, just, uh,
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  Speaker 2: be very supportive of, uh, of the creatives coming out
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  Speaker 2: of Elkhart because it's a special program. Uh, there's only
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  Speaker 2: a few in the entire country that can match what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing there. And, and, and as time goes on, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's just going to get better and better. So Mark, I, again,
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  Speaker 2: really appreciate, uh, getting to know a little more about
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  Speaker 2: you and, and what's going on at the school. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: are you, uh, in a position where you're going to
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  Speaker 2: transition to be the actual official president at some point,
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  Speaker 2: or is that still kind of a, an unknown entity?
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  Speaker 1: I leave that to the discretion of the board of trustees. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I will say that, um, I'm having an amazing time
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  Speaker 1: doing this job and I'm inspired every day by our
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  Speaker 1: students and our faculty. And I would encourage anyone in Laguna,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you've, if you've ever been curious to
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  Speaker 1: come and see what we do, give us a call.
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  Speaker 1: We'd be happy to take you through the studios and
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  Speaker 1: the classrooms and let you see.
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  Speaker 3: It for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: It's really fascinating. I did that very tour with your
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  Speaker 2: predecessor through the Big Bend campus. I had never been
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  Speaker 2: in any of those buildings. I know they've been there
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  Speaker 2: with Tolonics and other things in the past, but it
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  Speaker 2: was very, very interesting and eye-opening to be able to
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  Speaker 2: go into the classrooms even while there was a class
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  Speaker 2: going on and just sit in the back of the
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  Speaker 2: room and listen to what's going on. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you have interests, you know, you should reach out
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  Speaker 2: to the administration and, and, uh, and really take a
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  Speaker 2: look at what's going on in the Canyon because it's, it's, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we all drive through there at 45, 50
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  Speaker 2: miles an hour and don't really realize what's, what's happening
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  Speaker 2: out there. And I, I think if you have interest in, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, supporting the school through, uh, small donations or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: or getting involved on some level, you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: have a business here in town that, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to take, uh, some, maybe some interns or some students
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  Speaker 2: in to, to help them understand that there's all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of interesting ways of supporting themselves that would be of
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  Speaker 2: great value to them and to the school and to
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  Speaker 2: the community as well. So thanks again, Mark. Uh, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you're always welcome to come back if there's something, uh, that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: would you would like to let the community know and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, too, that this will get turned into
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  Speaker 2: a podcast. I'll send you a link to it so
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  Speaker 2: you can listen back to it or share it with
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  Speaker 2: other people in the administration or other parts of the school.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks again, folks. Hopefully I'll be back next week with
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  Speaker 2: some more updates on what's going on around our community art-wise.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you listening. And just remember this, that the soul
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  Speaker 2: and vitality of communities is often measured by how we
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  Speaker 2: treat our creatives. So Make sure if you know artists, musicians, performers, writers,
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  Speaker 2: creatives of all stripes, that you let them know how
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  Speaker 2: much you appreciate what they bring to Laguna Beach. Let's
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  Speaker 2: keep it all alive and well and be supportive of
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  Speaker 2: our creative community because without it, we're going to lose
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  Speaker 2: a lot. We'll see you next week. Thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I was born myself I'm all self-stealth.
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  Speaker 5: Some call it stubborn I call.
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  Speaker 6: It strong-willed Won't have no man Tell me what to
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  Speaker 6: do And if it tries.
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  Speaker 5: It ain't been.
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  Speaker 6: I take out the trash. I pay my own bailings.
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  Speaker 6: This house is my castle.
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  Speaker 7: I'm queen of the hill. I'm queen of this hill.
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  Speaker 6: Don't need no Prince Charming riding up on his steed.
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  Speaker 6: His advice I just don't need. And if he wants
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  Speaker 6: a gig, he can feel free. Long as he knows,
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  Speaker 6: I just gotta be me.
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  Speaker 7: I do my own laundry.
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  Speaker 6: I pay my own bills. My house is my castle.
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  Speaker 6: I'm queen of.
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  Speaker 5: Don't come around here Bringing.
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  Speaker 6: All your mess.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you I done told all the rest
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  Speaker 4: Now I don't care what you think of me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 7: How things are gonna be.
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  Speaker 6: I mind my own business.
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  Speaker 5: I pay my own bills.
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  Speaker 6: This house is my castle. I am queen of this hill.
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  Speaker 6: I am queen.
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  Speaker 7: Of this hill.
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  Speaker 4: I do things my way.
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  Speaker 6: I always will. I make my own rules. I am
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  Speaker 6: queen of this hill.
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  Speaker 4: I'm out for the kill Don't cross me boy I'm.
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  Speaker 6: Queen of the hill.
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  Speaker 5: Now I can get some I got a heart full
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  Speaker 5: of I got a heart full of R-r-r-dipside I want
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  Speaker 5: some bad love Now I can get some I got
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  Speaker 5: a heart full of I got a heart full of
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  Speaker 5: R-r-r-dipside Yeah, now run, baby, run, run from the bad love.
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  Speaker 6: New love, baby, come on and give me some.
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  Speaker 5: Run, baby, run, run from the bad love.
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  Speaker 6: New love, baby, come on honey give me some.
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  Speaker 5: New love baby come on honey give.
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  Speaker 3: Me some new love baby.
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  Speaker 5: Come on honey give me.
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  Speaker 3: Some All righty, Laguna. We're off to a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a late start here because of the full hour
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  Speaker 3: and then some of Art Matters with George Dubin and
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  Speaker 3: Mark Saville. I hope you enjoyed that. This is Billy Freed,
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  Speaker 3: your host of the 2 o'clock hour on Tuesdays known
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  Speaker 3: as Laguna Talks because Laguna does talk. And we have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of talkers. We appreciate that. And that's why
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  Speaker 3: I do this show because I get to meet fascinating
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  Speaker 3: people like our guest today. Julie Perlin Lee from the
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  Speaker 3: Laguna Art Museum. Say hello, Julie.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, Billy.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, everyone out there.
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  Speaker 3: There you are. Fantastic. Busy time of year for the museum.
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  Speaker 7: It is our busiest time of year, most public-facing time
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  Speaker 7: of year, and it's art and nature time.
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  Speaker 3: Art and nature. Just for everybody out there, it's not
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  Speaker 3: art in nature. It's art plus, which can also be
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  Speaker 3: kind of an ampersand.
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  Speaker 6: You got it.
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  Speaker 7: You got it.
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  Speaker 3: We like to say art and nature, and this was
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  Speaker 3: started 14 years ago.
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  Speaker 7: It was started 14 years ago with the idea that
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  Speaker 7: how can we build on the early legacy of our
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  Speaker 7: founding artists and those that came here to Laguna to
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  Speaker 7: paint art, to make art of nature. And so this
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  Speaker 7: is a continuation in a very contemporary way.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. And, you know, it's an
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  Speaker 3: interesting time because we're heading into our centennial year. And
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  Speaker 3: we're highlighting and spotlighting a lot of what makes Laguna unique.
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  Speaker 3: And if there's any one thing, the connective tissue, it's
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  Speaker 3: the artists.
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  Speaker 7: It's that.
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  Speaker 3: It's a rare thing that a city was actually formed
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  Speaker 3: literally by a group of artists.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great. So our centennial project, we're putting together
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  Speaker 7: an exhibition. We're highlighting new works that are coming to
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  Speaker 7: the museum from those artists and others who came through
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  Speaker 7: town during that time. But we are absolutely highlighting how
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  Speaker 7: they were civically engaged here. And, you know, George Dubin
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  Speaker 7: is a perfect example of that and others.
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  Speaker 3: A continuation.
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  Speaker 7: A continuation. And it is deeply special to have that
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  Speaker 7: creativity and that force of creatives still here in Laguna.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And, you know, I hear new stories about them
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  Speaker 3: every day. You know, I know that William Wendt and
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  Speaker 3: Aubrey St. Clair and Frank Kuprian and these people came
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  Speaker 3: from all over, not just North America, but Europe. seeking
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  Speaker 3: this unique haven. And I know they were drawn not
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  Speaker 3: only by the light and the landscaping, but also because
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  Speaker 3: rent was cheap.
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  Speaker 7: Well, the views are pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. What I love about the culture, though, when
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  Speaker 3: I read about it is that these artists, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they had salons every night or however at their homes.
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  Speaker 3: And it was just so, must have been so fascinating
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  Speaker 3: because it wasn't just painters. It grew into poets and musicians.
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  Speaker 3: Then Hollywood discovered it. Then we somehow birthed a very
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  Speaker 3: tolerant gay community that has flourished through all these years,
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  Speaker 3: even though they had a terrible, terrible loss during the
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  Speaker 3: AIDS years. But, you know, it came back. And then
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  Speaker 3: we somehow, of course, created the surf culture, which not
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  Speaker 3: only in technology but in arts and filmmaking, soft goods, apparel.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Just a unique place.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so what you're describing, and I guess that's kind
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  Speaker 7: of the third component, what we have here. We have nature,
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  Speaker 7: we have art, but it's community, and that early community.
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  Speaker 7: It's that early working together. Not that everyone always agreed
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  Speaker 7: back then, they didn't, but right? They formed a community,
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  Speaker 7: and they right away banded together to bring attention to
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  Speaker 7: Laguna Beach. Those artists were drawing crowds of thousands of
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  Speaker 7: people to come by Dirt Road to Laguna to look
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  Speaker 7: at their paintings. I mean, that's pretty extraordinary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to figure out how to generate an income.
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  Speaker 3: So they started the Festival of Arts, Pageant of the Masters.
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  Speaker 3: And in 1968, we got the Flautus Festival, which was
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  Speaker 3: sort of the cast-offs of the festival. And they were
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  Speaker 3: the rebellious ones who were doing more provocative art, I think,
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  Speaker 3: at that time. So I think we're going to hear
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  Speaker 3: a lot about this in the coming year in the
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  Speaker 3: centennial celebration. And they're making 100 short films. 10 per
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  Speaker 3: decade is the goal. So we'll be seeing more of
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  Speaker 3: this visually. I don't know where it's going to be shown,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm sure we'll find it online.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: But going back to you, now you've been, are you
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  Speaker 3: executive director? What's your title?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, executive director. And I've been with the museum just
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  Speaker 7: over five years now. So it's a nice little arc
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  Speaker 7: of time to really feel cozy and comfy.
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  Speaker 3: Get your sea legs.
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  Speaker 7: Get my sea legs. And I live here in town.
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  Speaker 7: We've lived here in town the whole time, which has
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  Speaker 7: also been great. And, you know, because you're working here, but...
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  Speaker 7: The conversations happen in the grocery store aisles, as you know.
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  Speaker 5: Sure do.
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  Speaker 7: Or the post office.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably get stopped everywhere. Everybody's got their two
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  Speaker 3: cents on the museum. That's okay.
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  Speaker 7: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I want to start by saying you have some
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  Speaker 3: tremendous exhibitions going on right now. And I say you
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  Speaker 3: really push the envelope with the, I want to get
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  Speaker 3: their name right, the De La Torres Brothers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The tipping point.
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  Speaker 7: The tipping point. So talk about provocative. The exhibition is
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  Speaker 7: completely supposed to provoke emotion. And it's been a real positive, though.
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  Speaker 7: So let me just quickly explain what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody needs to see this.
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  Speaker 7: The tipping point is an immersive installation. When you walk
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  Speaker 7: into the gallery, which we call the California Gallery, it
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  Speaker 7: has been completely transformed into... an elaborate dining room with
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  Speaker 7: a dining table set for almost 30 people. There's plates
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  Speaker 7: and food and spilt wine and glass objects.
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  Speaker 3: And babies for dinner.
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  Speaker 7: Babies for dinner. There's chandeliers on the ceiling, taxidermy on
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  Speaker 7: the wall, hand-designed wallpaper. In short, it looks like you've
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  Speaker 7: just walked into a dinner party for the ultra elite
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  Speaker 7: who have picked up and left. So you're coming into
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  Speaker 7: the total aftermath of this Um, evening, um, and everywhere
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  Speaker 7: you look glass objects, resin objects infused with, um, what
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  Speaker 7: we might call found objects or knickknacks, tchotchkes, whatever you
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  Speaker 7: might want to call them. The brothers call these things,
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  Speaker 7: the material objects. culture of our time. It's really just
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  Speaker 7: the stuff that is all around us. So the brothers
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  Speaker 7: are mainly glassblowers. Speaking of the sawdust, they did a
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  Speaker 7: glassblowing demonstration over at the sawdust, so I hope people
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  Speaker 7: got to see that. They started as glassblowers. They started
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  Speaker 7: working together as Young brothers here in Laguna Beach, actually,
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  Speaker 7: over at the Pottery Shack, they went to school at
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  Speaker 7: Cal State Long Beach.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that. I saw they were Mexican
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  Speaker 3: immigrants but grew up in Dana Point.
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  Speaker 7: Grew up in Dana Point, but they had a family
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  Speaker 7: member in Laguna. And so they were doing torch-blown little
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  Speaker 7: glass menagerie animals early on. They ended up going to
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  Speaker 7: school for sculpture at a time where minimalism was being
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  Speaker 7: really pushed. Like, if you're going to be part of
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  Speaker 7: the art world... make it minimal, make it as simple,
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  Speaker 7: austere as possible. Well, there is nothing that made their
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  Speaker 7: hearts sing about that.
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  Speaker 3: They are maximalists.
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  Speaker 7: They are maximalists to the core. So the idea of
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  Speaker 7: this is that they like to call it, this is
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  Speaker 7: a let them eat cake moment, right? We are all
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  Speaker 7: experiencing this moment where there's a trillionaire class now. The
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  Speaker 7: have and the have-nots are wide apart. And that this
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  Speaker 7: is part of the cycle that we see over and
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  Speaker 7: over in history. And that here we are again.
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  Speaker 3: Louis VIII, Marie Antoinette, history repeats itself.
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  Speaker 7: History repeats itself. So here we are in this moment.
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  Speaker 7: And it is overwhelming. The gallery is overwhelming. And it's
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  Speaker 7: meant to be. And, you know, again, they are... Not
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  Speaker 7: saying anything more. They're not booing capitalism. They, like all
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  Speaker 7: of us, want to make money, want to fly, to
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  Speaker 7: use their phones, all of this. We had so many
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  Speaker 7: packages showing up from Jeff Bezos' Amazon during the installation
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  Speaker 7: to put all these gold coins and gold eggs coming
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  Speaker 7: out of our gallery walls, etc.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Anyway, it's just the world we live in. So here
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  Speaker 7: it is. It confronts you, and it's for you to
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  Speaker 7: really consider, like, where are we at right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the timing couldn't be better with the
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  Speaker 3: division of wealth and the trillionaire. We're in the trillionaire age.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And nothing exemplifies it. And as you said, they're not
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  Speaker 3: there making an editorial comment. They're just there reflecting back.
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  Speaker 3: our times.
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  Speaker 7: A hundred percent. Reflecting back is perfect, perfect way to
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  Speaker 7: say it. And, you know, look at the museum and
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  Speaker 7: as artists, as you know, we're, we're all rely on
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  Speaker 7: people supporting us financially. We totally depend on philanthropy. So
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  Speaker 7: these are people who we look to and people who
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  Speaker 7: have wealth, who share it in this way, you know,
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  Speaker 7: kudos to them. This is this is how money can
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  Speaker 7: help society. This is how money can help us understand
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  Speaker 7: where we are. This is how we can further communicating
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  Speaker 7: with each other. And I will say, um, despite some
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  Speaker 7: challenging content in those galleries, I've had some of the
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  Speaker 7: best conversations ever in my museum career because people are conversing,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and, um, and there's a room and a
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  Speaker 7: place to have a conversation like that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 7: When it's all staring at you in the face.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Who was the artist? He did an installation
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  Speaker 3: in the same room before your time, but I know
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  Speaker 3: he's got some pieces in the permanent. Sandow Burke.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Sandow Burke, sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Reminded me when he did the war between Northern and
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  Speaker 3: Southern California.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the War of the Californias, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an ambitious, you know, and it just
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: made you think, and it was all about consumerism. But
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: it was also funny because of all of this so-called
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: rivalry between the North and the South. And he played
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: it up like it was a real war.
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: Yep, yep. It's a great body of work.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the De La Torres brothers was such a surprise.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about them to find out they're
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: here in Orange County. And their work, their blown glass work,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: struck me as a little bit of Jeff Koons kind
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: of pop culture, but also deep Mexican culture. spirituality. There's
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of the folk art elements in there. They
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: just mix it up really good and they'll put the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: sparkling water, tipo, whatever that's called, and then they'll have
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the Mexican piece. So there's always little reminders of consumerism,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: pop culture. And then who's the great a glassblower artist
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that is featured in museums everywhere. He's from Seattle.
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: Dale Chihuly.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: A little bit of Chihuly, but way more over the top, way.
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: More over the top. So the two thing that those
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: artists have in common or, you know, just, um, you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: for whatever it's worth. And I'm, this is a savvy
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: listening crowd. So I know they know this, but glassblowers
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: work together, right? So they work, you can't blow glass
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: on your own. You need a team of people or
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: a collaborative group of people to do that together. Um,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: and um and in a sense you would think my
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: experience anyway with glass artists is that you or at
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: least i think glass is so it's precious it's breakable
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: you know it's expendable but in the hot shop they
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: go through so much glass that it's um not quite
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: as precious as you you and i would think so
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: i've worked with both teams now i've worked with the
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: chihuly team in a different job and and this team too.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: And it's not that things aren't taken care of, but
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: it's just a different approach versus, you know, a one-off
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: painting where it's like, it's the one painting.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Well, it is just sand, right?
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: It is just sand. It is just sand.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I was in Venice once and Dale Chihuly was in
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: town for a party and he was putting glass reeds
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: in the Venice canals, these bright red reeds. He was
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: doing something inventive. And I went over to, what's the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: little island that does famous for Blungler? The Murana. And
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, have you guys– has Dale Chihuly come around?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: And they were like, Dale Chihuly? I go, yeah, he's here.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And I thought they were going to be very kind
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of sensitive because he's in some ways appropriated the lost
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: art of blown glass, popular. And instead, they were in awe.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: They worshipped him because of what he had done overall
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: to bring awareness that it's a fine art.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately, Murano had become very commercial touristy kind of
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: knickknack stuff. And so it was really cool to see
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: this cultural transference where the proud Italians who have passed
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: this on for generations were in awe that this American
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: with the patch over his eye was in town.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: That's good.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: That's a good story. So I will say one last
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: thing about this tipping point. While I made all those
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: references to other artists, the thing that struck me most
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: directly was an esoteric arthouse movie called The Cook, The Thief,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: His Wife, Her Lover.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know the movie.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Peter Greenaway.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: You know it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: I do, yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I couldn't help but think this was the physical embodiment
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of that film, which was so... saturated in blood and
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: meat and you know it was a story in this
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: in this restaurant and it was the most decadent looking
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: restaurant and there was these crazy characters and meat lockers
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and it was just dripping with.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Decadence i'm so glad you made that connection um it
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: is very much um you know there's a lot of
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: films where i i find that there could be some
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: references too but In short, it's like the act of consuming, right?
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: And we consume food, right? And there you have it,
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: a dining table where you sit and consume. And we
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: are consumers and then consumerism, right? There's a tie between
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: all of these things together. So both that film and
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: this installation, they take you there.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: It really makes you think. And I think so much
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: art today that draws crowds is in some way immersive.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And this is an immersive exhibition. You know, you really
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: interact with it. You walk around. And then you had
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a description, I don't remember the word, of their actual
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: framed pieces that are backlit. And what's the word?
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the technology, it's called a lenticular.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yes. What is that? Lenticular.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: So let me, I like to describe it this way,
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: especially for radio. But, of course, you might also need
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: to be of a certain age.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Or use your imaginations.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: It's the little card, 3D card you would get in
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: your Cracker Jack box, right? It's essentially a plastic photograph
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: that when you tilt it back and forth, you get
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: a 3D vision of something. So there are several lenticulars,
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: photographs throughout the exhibition. And most of them, if not all,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: are embedded with religious iconography, consumerist iconography. They're 3D, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: some of them even have embellished glass on the outside.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: So they are 3D photographs, often with glass sculptures attached
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: to the front of them. So that's what they are,
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: the lenticular. So again, this is a maximalist way to
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: deal with photography. It's not a flat image. It's an
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: image that's 3D, so it's more. More is more for them.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: And then with the glass sculpture in front of them,
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: it's even more.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: They're enormously ambitious pieces. I mean, it's a great thing
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: that they're partnered because it looks like so much work.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Can you tell me what a piece like that might
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: retail for?
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: I have no idea. But you can ask Jeannie Dunn-Holm
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: over at Scape Gallery in Corona del Mar because she
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: does have a show that is up right now. Oh.
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: And so there's more sculpture to see down in Corona
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: Del Mar at this very moment.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Got it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: So I encourage people to check it out.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And this show runs through next year?
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: Through early January, mid-January.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Mid-January. So hurry up, everybody. You've got to see this.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And then what happens to something like this at the end?
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Well, hopefully it's going to go to another major American
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: museum that would be, I mean, outside of Lagoon Art Museum,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: of course.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Actually, while we were installing the show, there were calls
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: and people asking about this. So the exhibition has been
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: in a different formation, but it had been assembled in
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: one way at the McNay Museum, which is in San Antonio, Texas,
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: and then in Europe as well. And one other thing
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: I will say, just as an art historical reference, and
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: we've talked about film too, is you can also really
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: take a look at this installation and this table here.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: And I encourage people, look at it like a Dutch
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: still life. Think about it as a hyper-realist painting of
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: the end of a dinner party.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I get that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: You see it now?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Anyway.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And is the ultimate goal for the artists to have
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: a museum buy it and then install it permanently? Is
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: that the end game for when they do these ambitious
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: temporary installations?
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: I'm sure that's always on their mind. You know, it
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: would be a huge undertaking to have it all as
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: an installation.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: You have to have a lot of space.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: You have to have a lot of space and you
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: have to store it. But boy, wouldn't it be a
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: crowd pleaser to pull it out every few years.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed. Yeah. Speaking of space, you know, so you've
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: been here five years. I hear it frequently from some
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: of the art patrons in town that we don't have
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: as much space as we should. How do you feel
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: about that? Is there any talk about expanding?
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: The museum?
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: Yes. It's very publicly part of our strategic plan. The
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: museum is going to have– we've had our centennial back
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: in 2018, and now the city is going to have
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: its centennial. But the building itself is going to have
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: its centennial in 2029. So the building itself is about
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: to be 100 years old just a couple years after
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: our city's centennial. And so when you think that the
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: art gallery's been standing there weathering every storm and day
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: that's come on the coast since, it's pretty amazing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: It's an incredible location.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: It's an incredible location. We are so grateful to the
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: artists who had the vision to, one, put it up
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: on the hill and the site couldn't be better. Yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Like all things, we haven't had a refresh or remodel
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: in 40 years now. 40 years this year was the
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: last time that I call it the 1986 wrap was
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: opened then. And so we want to refresh the galleries.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: We plan to refresh the galleries and the museum. How big,
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: how deep, how tall we can go, there's a lot.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: That's not an easy question to answer. But the museum
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: needs to modernize in some ways. You know, the galleries
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: are wonderful. We do the very best we can. But
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: the museum business has changed and the model has changed.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: And it is difficult for us to, you know, earn
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: our own money. Right now, we rely almost exclusively on
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: philanthropic support. And that is wonderful. And we're so grateful
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: for it. But, you know, you know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Take a number, Julie.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: We were just discussing before we came in the studio,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: how many nonprofits do we think there are?
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there are over 250 nonprofits in Laguna Beach, all
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: with their hands out. And, you know, that's a lot
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: of ask. And we should be sensitive to the people.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: You know, I certainly am sensitive to the people we're
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: asking for and making sure when we're asking, we're asking
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: for something that's going to help us thrive and continue
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: to help us sustain ourselves or to help other people specifically,
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: You know, you're never just asking to ask, and the
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: costs are never covered anyway, so.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: You know how it goes.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And it's tough, you know. We both share this feeling
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: as executive directors that we're constantly asking, you know. And,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: you know, what makes you feel good about it is that,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not going to you. You're not asking
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: for a loan or for money to buy a house.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: It's for the greater good of this community.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: To create cultural enhancement, uh, bring visitors. And, um, however,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: it's been told that our endowment for our art museum
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: vis-a-vis at the wealth of this town is, is not
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: as robust as it should be.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: It's growing. It's, I have to say in the last
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: five years, I'm so grateful to the board and the
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: staff who's worked at the museum. And we have been
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: able to move the needle and, and, um, and very
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: positive way there. And, um, And it's so critical for
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: the museum to have that, any nonprofit to have that
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: kind of fail-safe, right? And an endowment, as you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: is not money you can ever tap into. It's money
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: to make sure that you can continue to operate at
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: all costs, no matter what happens, no matter what comes
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: your way. And we've seen things come our way before, right?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And a museum needs funding to not only operate,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: but to acquire funding.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: To, to all, to all the, to serve, you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: to serve others, um, you know, um, in the arts
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: and in radio, which I, I consider an art, right.
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: And we're communicating, we're, we're helping people feel, we're helping
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: people stay connected, right. That is essential. That's an essential
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: service we provide, but you know, we also know there
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: are people in our community who are hurting in a
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: much bigger way, right. They need a place to sleep
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: at night or to eat. It's really difficult to be
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: competing in this realm, but that's where we are, you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: that's where we are.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: So, you know, we started our fundraising drive just around
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: the same time that the community land trust was formed and,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: you know, how can you compete against putting and keeping
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: our artists class and eventually hopefully our seniors and our
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: worker class, um, housed here. And, you know, my hat's off.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: It's funny that recently, and from a few factions, um,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: somehow the land trust has become a little bit demonized
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and somehow there's an accusation out there that it wasn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: as fair as it should be and there was special
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: interest and, you know, bias and patronage. And I just
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: think about, really? How can you? I mean, I can't
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: think of a single bad thing about it. In fact,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: you know, we've been in production as just sort of
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: executive producers with a film that William Kirkley is making,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: who did Orange Sunshine.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And it's tentatively called Vanishing Point. And it's about what
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: happens to artist colonies when they get gentrified. And Laguna
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: is not the only one. Greenpoint, Soho, the list goes
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: on and on. When they become fashionable and wealth comes
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: in like it has in Laguna, what do you do?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: And we didn't have a happy ending until the land
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: trust formed. Not that it's the total solution, but it's
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: acknowledging from the very city government that founded this city
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: by artists that We depend on ours.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: Well, a big conversation for a different time and with
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: other people. And I know there are people out there
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: working on this, but it takes putting people together and
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: sitting down and making a big plan here. And what
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: are we doing? What's really important to us? What is
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: a long-term plan and vision for Laguna Beach? How are
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: we going to nurture that? How are we going to
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: make sure the things that matter most to us are
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: going to stay here? Um, and how do we work together?
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: How do we bring those 250 nonprofits together instead of
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: each of us siloed out there in the world, trying
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: to figure it out and do our own thing.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: Um, it, it, not everyone's going to survive that, you know? And, um,
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: so anyway, so we need, so those are tough things to,
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: to tackle, but, um, in a city this size with
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: people who are passionate enough, you know, it can be done.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: It can be done. I like your spirit, Julie. We're
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: talking to Julie Perlin Lee here from the Laguna Beach
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Art Museum here at KXFM Radio 104.7, if you're just
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: tuning in. So let's get to the big topic here
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: at hand. This Thursday?
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Thursday, the 18th edition?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: 14th.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: 14th, sorry, of Art Plus Nature. Do you refer to
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: it as Art and?
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: No, Art and Nature.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Art and Nature. Art and Nature, which has been an
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: annual event, usually weekly. Not even a week long? A
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: long weekend?
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: It's been traditionally four or five days of commissioned art
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: installation out of doors. Quickly, how it works is the
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: museum has interviewed, researched, asked for proposals, and looked for
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: an artist who can bring... a piece of art or
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: artwork or a series of artworks into the public realm
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: that either enhance the natural environment or perhaps call attention
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: to nature or even go a little deeper and really
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: ask people to stop and consider the environment around them.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: That's always been a through line.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: It's always been a through line. Sometimes it's more.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: Than others, but I can tell you I've met every
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: artist who's been part of that program, and every one
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: of them has a deep passion and consideration for the environment.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Working in the public realm, working out of doors is
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: not an easy task to do, right? There's a lot
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: of considerations.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: You're literally working in the elements. You are working in
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: the public, right? You easily lose control of who's seeing
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: and what they're seeing and what they're thinking. That's the
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: exciting part for me, actually.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: The unscripted. The unscripted part. And ideally, we're... reaching people
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: that don't normally set foot inside our museums or galleries or,
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: you know, which is a good thing, right? We're giving
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: them a real art experience as they walk in this
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: case this year, Heisler park. So our artists name is
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: Kim Manfredi. She lives, um, and works her studios in
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: cathedral city. So in the local desert area and Kim's project, um,
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: started after a residency in Joshua Tree where she was
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: taking walks every day in the desert on the sand
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: and really thinking about her connection as an artist on
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: the land, in her walks, and what that meant to her.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: And so the idea was born that she could bring
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: the same kind of feeling and passion connection she had
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: to the earth in Joshua Tree and spend some time
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: here in Laguna Beach and then create a project and
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: apply the same thinking to it. So that's what she's
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: done in a project which is called A Flag Walk
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: for Our Future. So this is a very subdued, meditative, slow, hopeful, promising,
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: and really just a beautiful project where the walk is
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: the art piece. So she has painted... And you can
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: see her paintings. I'll tell you about those in a minute.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: She paints large abstract paintings. Normally, they feel like landscapes.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: But in a very abstract way.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: But in a very abstract way. She uses a lot
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: of golds and silvers and layering. They're very meditative. You
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: feel like you're going through portals when you look at
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: her work. She's hand-painted four sets of flags. specific to
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: four sites in Heisler Park. So four parts of the park,
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: four landscapes, four parts of the day. And these flags
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: are painted through her abstract language responding to Laguna Beach.
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: And so she created these after spending time here and
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: really connecting with the coast and then creating these flags,
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: which will be installed for different sites. And Every day
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: beginning Thursday, she'll be guiding a walk starting at the museum.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: 10 o'clock, right?
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: Every morning start with us at the museum, 10 a.m.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: And she will start us off getting us centered and
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: ready for a walk with Kim through the park to
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: see each of these sites that she has selected and
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: the flags that she's made. They are fantastic. Really beautiful.
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: And they're also bejeweled and bedazzled. So they really sparkle
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: and shine. It's going to be 82 degrees out and
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: perfect over the weekend. Right.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: It's going to be great. Is it like allocate an
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: hour of your time for this?
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, as much as you want, as long
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: as it takes you to walk from Diver's Cove over
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: to the gazebo.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: And some people might want to stop and sit and
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: just enjoy and watch them move, the movement of the flags,
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: how they respond to the light and the wind and
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: the environment.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: Some people might want to just stroll right by.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: There was an installation a few years ago where it
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: was sort of this colorful canopy that was awesome.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was great.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: How come we didn't keep that permanently? That was so beautiful.
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: Wasn't that great? Yeah, that was poetic kinetics.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yes. It was a shame to see it come down
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: so soon. you know, and I wonder, you know, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: don't want to suppose that this would be easy, but,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: you know, in years past, I've been so surprised. And
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: going back for a second to the sighting of the museum,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: where it is, this unique location, it really lines up
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: so good for art and nature.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Because you have this beautiful urban park. And then you
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: have the beach below, and these exhibits or shows have
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: been in both places. And it's run the gamut. Of course,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: we had Elizabeth Turk with the LED-lit umbrellas and hundreds
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: and hundreds of volunteers doing some kind of movement on
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: the beach. And then we've had Laddie John Dill doing light,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: dancing on the water.
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: We had Lita Albuquerque and Philip K.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Smith with the mirrored. Really cutting-edge stuff and a great
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: way to introduce young people, I think, to art because
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: they interact with it. Everybody wants to take an Instagram
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: shot as well. That, to me, has always been the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: success of Desert X. It's very, very different, but it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: an installation festival, but it's in Coachella Valley. It's so vast,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and you have to drive... half an hour to see
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: one piece, but that's part of the fun is the discovery.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious, I was going to ask you backstage,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: what like how do they get funding? Is it all
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: corporate sponsors or individual?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: It's a blend. It's a blend.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: It's a big budget.
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: It's a huge budget.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Huge budget. And they're not that old. I mean, we've
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: been around longer, haven't we?
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, we have.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: We have.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: So, um, it's a great model to look at. And, um,
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: I've been meeting with, um, friends of desert X recently
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: and plan to do, plan to do a little bit
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: more of that because, uh, We have bigger aspirations for
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: art and nature as well. We love what it is.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: We love that it's over four days and sometimes five
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: days if the holiday falls right. But it is a
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: really short amount of time for the amount of effort
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: that goes into it. And we want to see our
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: projects from Laguna Beach go on. So we did that
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: last year, which was so great. The SOS project with
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: Ana Teresa Fernandez, where we had 800 volunteers and mirrors
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: on the beach. And the pattern, the Morse code SOS pattern.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: And that project went on to Chicago and to.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Italy, right? Wow.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: And taking the Laguna Beach and Laguna Art Museum name
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: with it. So we want to do more of that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: We'd like to see more art during this time for
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: a longer period of time here.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: You know, it's a huge coordinated effort, but we can
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: do it. And it's the right thing. It's a good thing.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: It is a good thing.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: It makes people happy. It brings people to town. People
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: come stay the night. They eat in the room. Last year,
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: every person in Borden Brew had an Art and Nature
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: t-shirt on.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: Great to see.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: That's so cool.
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: So you can see your impact right away.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: And Julie, like you said, you know, the unscripted. One
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: of my joys of going is to see how the
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: public interacts.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: You know, the wonder and the joy and the dancing
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: around and the movement and they become part of the piece.
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: They become part of it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So, uh, just like, uh, desert X, you mentioned
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: like the driving, right? The driving is the journey. And, um,
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: this year I would also just encourage people who are
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: participating and think about that too. The walk is the journey.
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: The walk is the art. And, um, Kim is really
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: asking us to slow down, slow down and look, um,
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: It is completely fortuitous that we picked an artist two
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: years ago that wanted to really focus on the land
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: and the park because the beaches are off limits to us.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, right. I forgot about that. That would have been
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: a huge pivot.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: Huge pivot. So it's all working out for the right way.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: And Kim will tell you it's Mother Nature. Pay attention.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: Pay attention to what you see right now.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, in reading sort of the literature that
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: you have on this piece right now, she remarks that
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: as you walk through, these colors that you see are
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: supposed to reflect, you said, four times of the day. Well,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I think dawn, midday, afternoon, what have you. And as
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: somebody who goes out on the water a lot on
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: a kayak, I'm hypersensitive to the light and color that
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I see. And it's such a variation. So like sometimes...
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: It's completely gray, shrouded in fog, but yet there's so
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: much texture to it and nuance if you're paying attention.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I always say, get out on a kayak
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: here and just breathe, and then just notice what you notice.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: That's it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: You know, and so I'm real curious to see, because
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I've seen the exhibition and the vibrant colors that she
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: puts into these large canvases, and yet, even though they're abstract,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I see nature, I see landscape.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: And so... Yeah, so this is going to be exceptional.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: So it starts Thursday, ends Sunday.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: Ends Monday.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Is there a way to see it in the dark?
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: No, we bring the flags out each day and we
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: bring them in each night.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Is that because they're not secured?
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: Right, and we're not allowed to leave things without security
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: out all night long.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: So it's cheaper to Have staff to pull them off
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: than it is to have people stand by.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: That's right. You've got it. So they'll come in every
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: night and they'll go out every morning. But, you know,
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: that becomes a really wonderful ritual for us as well.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: We basically march out the art every day. We did
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: it with Kelly Berg's Pyramidians, you know, which is like
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: the art marches out, the art comes in, it flows in,
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: it flows out.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It's like your lamplighters or torchlighters or something starting the day.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: It's a ritual. It's a ritual.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: It's a ritual. And then on Saturday, Saturday is a
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: free day at the museum. Okay, so that's great for
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: all listeners to know. It's a great day. You can
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: come see the De La Torre show. You can come
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: see Kim Manfredi's in-gallery installation, which is called A View
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: with a Grain of Sand.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Is that a play on grain of salt?
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: No, it's actually a poem that was written in Poland
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: decades ago. Kim has been meditating on this poem for
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: 20 years. And the poem is written on the gallery wall.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit of a challenging poem. And I
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: won't give it away, but I read the poem and
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: think about it. It asks us to consider who we
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: are and who we are to name nature, call nature,
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: tame nature, whatever we're doing. Nature is going to be
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: nature no matter what.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: She's very much responding to that, and it's a nice
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: thing to put in your mind and to think about
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: as you look at her work and as you venture
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: out of doors. So that's Saturday. All day is free
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: at the museum. And then down on the cobblestone, we
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: have music, food, and projects, and drawing.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: That's Saturday.
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: This Saturday, yeah. From, I think, 10 to 2 or
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: something like that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Main Beach Cobblestones.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: Main Beach Cobblestones.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: And it's a Laguna Art Museum display.
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we have several tables up there. And so you'll
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: see us out there. And come make something. Come try something.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Come get creative with us.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: You also have one more exhibit at the museum, which
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: is from your permanent collection. It has something to do
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: with light.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Radiant Terrains.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Radiant Terrains.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: And I love that show. It was curated by Tyler Stallings.
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: Tyler is retired, but he once was the chief curator
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: of Laguna Art Museum. And we've kept in touch all
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: these years. He knows our collection of 6,000 works very well.
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: And so he put that exhibition together and it explores
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: the way artists use light in different ways. whether it
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: be just reflective light or any way, all ways in which.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: It's varied. All different mediums pick photography, paint. It's really cool.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really sweet.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: You're cooking with gas, Julie.
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: Sweet little exhibition.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: You'll see more of those, too.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: We've really been putting a lot of effort into collecting
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: some really wonderful works of art for the museum and
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: then exhibiting them. And because they're us, they belong to us,
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: Laguna Beach. These are our works. You know, we get
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: to use them and reinterpret them and make new stories
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: with them all the time.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: And I think it's incumbent upon us, you know, not
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: to get stuck in the past or whatever and just
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: be known for plein air because artists are always moving forward, right?
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: They're showing us the way. Always.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: Always, always.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Anything you want to mention coming up after the De
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: La Torre show or in the future in 2027?
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, really, we're just focusing on
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: the centennial exhibition, like I mentioned.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: How long will that be in place?
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: That will be in place from March through September. So
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: it will be open. June's the big celebration month here
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: in town. So we're keeping an eye on all things
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: that the Centennial Committee is planning, and we're pleased to
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: be part of that.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Are you on that committee?
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: No, thankfully.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got enough going on.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: I've got enough to do. But we're absolutely happy to
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: be promoting the Centennial and be telling the story, the
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: civic story and the creative story of the artist. We're
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: collecting work for that exhibition, so I guess I'll just
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: make a public announcement, even though I wasn't planning on it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: It's funny.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Work in and about Laguna, primarily?
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: Well, it's kind of crazy to tell you this, and
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: I'm shocked about it. But a couple years ago, after
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: we finished the museum's inventory of artwork, really it's a
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: tiny portion of our collection of art that is from
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: the plein air period. I mean, a surprisingly small part.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: So I went back in the exhibition history, and I'm
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: looking at the shows we've done, and I tell you, Billy,
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: really close, I'd see the same group of works put out,
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: different title. So the Centennial got me thinking about as
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: we've been researching, the Frank Kuprian exhibition we had a
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: few months ago really got me interested and I did
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: a lot of research into how much work Frank Kuprian
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: did civically for this town how civically engaged he was
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: he was a fundraiser he designed buildings you know he
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: he played santa claus i mean he did it all
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: right and he didn't just paint paintings he he was same.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: With saint claire he was an architect builder.
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: Right so these are amazing stories multi-hyphenates yes yeah plus
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: a musician i mean guy guy he's like a renaissance
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: man it's not fair it's actually.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Not fair but you know there's so many of those
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: in laguna through the.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: Years yeah yeah so at any rate uh yeah i'm
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: uh Telling you, this is crazy to say. I'm actively
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: looking for plein air paintings to bolster the Laguna Art
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: Museum's collection.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: It's like the craziest thing. Who has the biggest collection
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: of plein air? UCI?
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: They have a large collection now. Yeah, they do have
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: a large collection.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Well, they got that one private collection. Was that a
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: lot of plein air?
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: Yes. So those two collections blended together now. They bring
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: them quite a bit of work.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: So, but.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: It started in Laguna Beach, and these are our artists.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: This is our story.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: This is our story. And what are we doing here?
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: So I'm kind of book-ending history here. We're definitely collecting
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: contemporary art because this is the moment of our time.
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: This is our time. We know it. We should collect
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: what we know and what we're experiencing. but we should
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: also make sure that we are making sure that our
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: legacy is upheld and as strong as possible.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Good to hear. I mean, I don't get tired of
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: looking at plein air. It's amazing.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: No, of course.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I think we were talking about Gerald Buck. He was
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: a private collector, lived in North Laguna, I believe, and
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: bought this building on Broadway downtown that housed his collection.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Very few people got in to see it. Right. But
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: the building is magnificent, and then for a brief time,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Mohanaker– leased it. I thought he owned it, but he
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: leased it and turned it into the Honaker Foundation for
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: the Arts. Also, I was shocked at what a beautiful
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: exhibition space is. It looks like, you know, LA, New York.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's really top quality. So I'm curious, was there,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: when it went on the market, did you guys take
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: a look, possibly acquiring it? Or was it just out
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: of your reach or?
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: Well, we definitely took a look at it for sure. And,
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: you know, again, going back to space, right? The museum
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: only has so much footprint and this is not a brag.
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: This is actually, this is a, this is, I'm just
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: saying it shouldn't be this way. I have got this
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: great view of the ocean from my office and that's great,
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: but I'm not the paying guest. You know, we should
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: be giving our guests the very best view. We should connect.
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: We should be, in my opinion, connecting the outdoors to
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: the indoors, the art and the nature. That's what Laguna
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: beach is all about. Right.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: And so, um, you're saying we have more space than
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: we're not utilizing in the current location.
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: No, no. I'm just saying if you took my office
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: out of it and plop me somewhere like in an
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: office on Broadway, you know, we could have better gallery
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: space that had that view. And anyway, so in our
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: quest to kind of figure out this little nutshell game,
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: how we're going to get more space, how we're going
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: to make the visitor, excuse me, the museum better for
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: the visitor. So we need to take a look at
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: that space. It's too bad. I wish we had it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Was the sense of it is not enough return on investment?
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: It was just not enough will to get it over
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: the finish line.
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we just couldn't get it over the finish line.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: And you must know, I mean, is UCI planning to
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: use it for public exhibitions or are they just going
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: to store stuff there?
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: I have no idea.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: You don't know?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know what they're planning on using it for
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: or what they're planning on doing with it.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, the reason I mention it is because it
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: seems like more and more with the Surf Heritage and
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Cultural Center opening and then, of course, the Rivian, is
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: that without even trying, we have created a, culture corridor
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: from the museum to seven degrees. And one day seven
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: degrees will be out of bankruptcy and operating again as
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: a exhibition event space. And then we've got, you know, fat, uh,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: festival of arts pageant, the math, I mean, uh, Irvine bowl,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Laguna playhouse. It would be great if that, if we
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: knew somehow that that space that UCI acquired could be
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: used along that corridor. Cause I, you know, we're, we're
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: going to do a jazz festival, small festival in March. Um,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: You heard it here first. And we're talking to different
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: schools that have jazz programs about having daytime workshops and
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: then nighttime performances. And we're doing it at the Playhouse.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: So it's modest, 400 seats. But everybody we talked to
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: in the jazz world was saying, you should do it
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: along that corridor and grow into it where there's performances
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: at Shaq, at the museum, at the Rivian. And I
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: think to myself, none of them are And so that
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: presents an issue of acquiring talent that we can afford.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, I guess in
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: some ways pedestrianizing Broadway.
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: No, a progressive jazz party sounds great.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I hope we can collaborate with you, Julie,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: in many ways.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: We did Art Matters together. That was good.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: That was really great.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: And we don't want to lose sight of it. This
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: should be at least semi-annual. We want to keep the
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: dialogue and the spotlight on artists. And you did a
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: magnificent job.
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: Oh, thank you.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, first time out, I thought we had
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: a really nice turnout. Yeah. And, you know, you're talking
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: about some things that are in the early stages. And
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: we see our role as a collaborator with every nonprofit
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: because all we do is amplify the arts, you know.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: And we want to be a force for good here.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: We're not taking political positions. Jonas, we didn't speak one
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: word about Election Day. You know, I'm so over it.
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate you inviting me, and I really appreciate
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: what you do. I think radio is such an important form. of, uh,
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: you know, just community and bringing us together. Anytime anyone's
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: listening to the radio, they're, they're never alone, you know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: and that really means a lot.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: We're medicine. We're curing loneliness. There's an epidemic of loneliness
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: and we're bringing the community together. So, you know, they
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: told me over at Laguna auto that every car that
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: comes in, they check and it's always tuned to 93.5.
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: So very good.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: We like that. Uh, So let's just recap. The Art
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: in Nature begins Thursday at 10 a.m. And if you
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: go over to the museum, you can actually participate in
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: a walking tour with the artist. Remind me.
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  Speaker 7: Kim Manfredi.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Kim Manfredi. That's right. A flag walk for our future
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: view with the grain of sand.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: A Flag Walk for Our Future is the outdoor installation. Right.
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: And inside, you can also see our exhibition.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: View with a Grain of Sand.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: Yes, you got it.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: And will she be doing any presentations?
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: She's doing an artist talk on Thursday night.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Thursday night.
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: And Saturday night, we have Dr. Lucy Jones, the seismologist
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: from Caltech, coming for our keynote talk. So how could
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: I forget her? I'm such a fangirl for her. So
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: every time the earth shakes, every time... Anyway, she's the
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: gal on your TV screen, so she's going to be
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: talking about the earth and movement in a real positive way.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I'd like to hear her thoughts on the rising tides, too.
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: She's got them.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. And is that open to the public?
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Are tickets available?
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: That's a specialty ticket. I think it's $ 35 for members
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: and $ 40 for non-members, a little reception ahead of time.
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: But she's such an incredible woman and a great speaker.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm imagining LagunaBeachMuseum.org.
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: LagunaArtMuseum.org.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Is where you go to get tickets. Yes, sir. And
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: to see the entire lineup of Art and Nature this
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Thursday through Monday. Julie Perlin Lee, thank you for doing
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: all that you do for our town and keeping art
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: alive and vibrant.
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Billy.
• 57:20
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• 57:22
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• 57:54
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