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Bad News for Brynn: RHONY FINALE · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Rain Drops.
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Speaker 2: Reality with the King podcast is back on tour and
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Speaker 2: my first stop is in Atlanta, Georgia.
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Speaker 1: On Monday, February third.
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Speaker 2: I am joined by special guests, married to medicine star
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Speaker 2: doctor heaven Lee and baby. We are going to have
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Speaker 2: a good time, so get your tickets. It's available as
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Speaker 2: City Winery Atlanta. Also link in my bio on my Instagram,
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Speaker 2: Twitter pages and don't forget Monday February third at the
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Speaker 2: City Winery in Atlanta, Georgia. Carlos King and married to
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Speaker 2: medicine star doctor Heavily. This is a show you do
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Speaker 2: not want to miss. Welcome to Reality the King. It's
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Speaker 2: me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and one
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Speaker 2: of the most sought after executive producers in reality television
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Speaker 2: with over ten years production experience. Twice a week on
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Speaker 2: Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends
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Speaker 2: across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and
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Speaker 2: revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.
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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops.
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Speaker 2: On today's episode of Reality with the King, I decided
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Speaker 2: to do this episode solo because I did not want
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Speaker 2: anyone to feel like things were said that wasn't said,
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Speaker 2: or I had a guest on that said something that
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Speaker 2: I may have agreed.
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Speaker 1: With that I don't.
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Speaker 2: So I wanted to do this very special episode with me,
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Speaker 2: myself and I Hey, Beyonce. So we have to get
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Speaker 2: into the season finale of the Housewives of New York City.
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Speaker 2: As you all know, I've been very honest about me
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Speaker 2: not watching this season. I did watch last season. I
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Speaker 2: recapped it on this very podcast, and I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it right. It wasn't amazing, it wasn't horrible.
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Speaker 2: It was definitely worth watching. It was watchable. I was
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Speaker 2: thrilled to get to know these new, beautiful, smart, successful
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Speaker 2: women in New York City. And I felt like all
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Speaker 2: of the women season one were a pleasure to watch
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Speaker 2: and I enjoyed them. They were fun, natural, And there's
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Speaker 2: nothing like a season one cast because they don't have
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Speaker 2: the sort of cloud hanging over their head of the
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Speaker 2: audience hates me or the audience loves me. I don't
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Speaker 2: like the way I look on camera, people are judging me,
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Speaker 2: you know, any of those preconceived notions coming into the show,
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Speaker 2: And there's nothing, nothing, nothing like a season one cast
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Speaker 2: when you think about the real housewatchs of Atlanta, right
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Speaker 2: when you think about the real House Watson, New Jersey,
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Speaker 2: just organic, natural conversations, dialogue, drama moments. I mean, we're
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Speaker 2: talking about Danielle style, but you know I need not
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Speaker 2: say more.
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Speaker 1: Okay, natural, natural, natural. It was just a joy to.
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Speaker 2: Watch, and I felt like the first season of this
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Speaker 2: reboot of Rony was watchable. Then came season two of
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Speaker 2: the reboot. Right, so I want to make sure I'll
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Speaker 2: break it down that way season two of the reboot, right,
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Speaker 2: because I don't know season we're in technically, so let's
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Speaker 2: refer it today as season two of the reboot. Tried
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Speaker 2: to watch the first episode and not immediately knew, Wow,
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Speaker 2: these girls are suffering through the sophomore season, and they
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Speaker 2: read the tweets, they read the comments, they don't like
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Speaker 2: how they looked, and they're now not going to be real.
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Speaker 1: I knew that instantly.
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Speaker 2: I knew that that within fifteen minutes, and I changed
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Speaker 2: the channel and I never once returned to the show
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Speaker 2: until the finale. I know all about the pranks that
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Speaker 2: happened episodes ago, and for me, it was just more
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Speaker 2: so confirmation that my intuition was correct that these women
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Speaker 2: were playing a game, and it wasn't the game of life,
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Speaker 2: it was the game of Monopoly. I'm being fooled, fake money,
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Speaker 2: fake storylines, so I knew it, and I'm never ever
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Speaker 2: ever going to trash a show. That's not my spirit.
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Speaker 2: This podcast is not going to trash anyone. This is
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Speaker 2: a fun podcast. I stay my opinion. I give my
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Speaker 2: expert opinion, me being a reality TV producer, and we
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Speaker 2: have wonderful time being funny, having fun shade.
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Speaker 1: But it's never to be mean. Okay, this is not
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Speaker 1: a mean podcast.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I decided not to watch or recap
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Speaker 2: this reboot of Ronie on the second season, because I
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Speaker 2: did not want to give anything other than an opinion
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Speaker 2: about watching it.
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Speaker 1: If you.
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Speaker 2: Haven't noticed, there's a lot of shows I don't recap,
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Speaker 2: and the reason why I don't recap it is because
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Speaker 2: number one, I don't watch it, number two, I may
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Speaker 2: not like it, and number three, I never want to
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Speaker 2: come across as trashing a show. The team of producers
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Speaker 2: in this business, we have a tough job, and the
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Speaker 2: cast are so brave to give their honest lives to
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Speaker 2: all of us, me included, and I never ever want
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Speaker 2: to disrespect anybody in my business of reality TV, because
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Speaker 2: it's a super fucking hard job that we have to do.
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Speaker 2: Whether you're on camera or behind the scenes, it's hard
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Speaker 2: for all of us. So if I don't recap a show,
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Speaker 2: it's because I don't want to trash talk it.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: If I don't like an episode, I'm gonna tell y'all
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Speaker 2: did not like this episode. If I don't like a storyline,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you did I like that storyline. If
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Speaker 2: I I think some of these girls or guys tried it,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say they tried it?
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Speaker 1: Okay, So.
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Speaker 2: I would be remiss not to talk about the season
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Speaker 2: finale of Ronie that aired recently.
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Speaker 1: I am triggered by that.
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Speaker 2: Episode for various reasons I don't like, and I'm certain
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Speaker 2: I'm not alone of this, right. I just don't like
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Speaker 2: when people accuse somebody of something that isn't true. You
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Speaker 2: don't have to be a reality star a celebrity to
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Speaker 2: know what that feels like. I think all of us,
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Speaker 2: at one point in time of our lives have been
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Speaker 2: accused of something that we just did not do, just
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Speaker 2: so that the heat can get off of a person,
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Speaker 2: or so the person the sort of like person you're
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Speaker 2: having this adversary worth right, is being seen as the villain.
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Speaker 2: That's not the reality TV I want to watch. It's
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Speaker 2: not the reality TV that I think our audience wants
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Speaker 2: to tune into. My brain drops don't want to see
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Speaker 2: that shit when it comes to the finale. Brand is
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Speaker 2: a fantastic, fascinating character. Okay, her first season, she was fun, whimsical,
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Speaker 2: a lightning rod, funny. She's everything you want for a
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Speaker 2: reality star, and she delivered.
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Speaker 1: She arguably was one of the fan favorites.
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed her first season on the show because in
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Speaker 2: the compliment in the world, she was a wacka dude though,
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Speaker 2: you know, a wacky character, you know, wacky personality, sort
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Speaker 2: of like how much I love Britney on Salt Lake City.
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Speaker 2: I think Brin drank the kool aid. I think Brent
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Speaker 2: got caught up in the lights camera action. Brent is unrecognizable.
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Speaker 2: I knew that the first fifteen minutes of watching the show.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened to her?
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Speaker 2: She's trying to make moments happen that didn't seem to
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Speaker 2: be authentic, and I was just turned off. And as
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Speaker 2: my rain drops kept telling me like, well, Carlos, you're
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Speaker 2: not watching Ronnie, You're not missing anything.
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Speaker 1: This season is not great. I'm like, okay, again.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to use my platform to bash a
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Speaker 2: show every episode. But I knew that something was off
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Speaker 2: about it, and I think Brin drank the kool aid.
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Speaker 2: And I also think Brand is trying very hard to
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Speaker 2: create a moment, which is fine when you are reality
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Speaker 2: start to create moments. The problem that I have, though,
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Speaker 2: is you cannot create a moment on someone else's expense.
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Speaker 2: You cannot create a moment ruining somebody's reputation. That's not okay.
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Speaker 2: It's not okay in real life. It's not okay for television.
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Speaker 2: It is not okay for television.
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Speaker 1: Father.
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Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure all of my listeners, you guys
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Speaker 2: have have watched it. Now I'll give you a quick recap,
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Speaker 2: long story short.
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Speaker 1: The casts on the cast.
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Speaker 2: Trip and Uba and Brian got into it. Brand made
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Speaker 2: a comment about her sucking d you know, and Uba
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Speaker 2: took that and made it an additional comment about, well,
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Speaker 2: maybe that's what you do. And again I'm paraphrasing, but
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Speaker 2: that's what happened. All of the women pretty much told
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Speaker 2: Uba she went too far, and Brent started crying talk
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Speaker 2: about being a black woman accused of sleeping her way
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Speaker 2: to the top, and it became very dark during that
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Speaker 2: process because it was sort of like, okay, wait, I
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Speaker 2: brand didn't make the comments first. Uba took her comment,
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Speaker 2: added some hot sauce to it, some tumeric, ginger root, basil,
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Speaker 2: black pepper, seasoning, salt, Laurie's criscal grease, and pretty much
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Speaker 2: gave her what she gave her back what she was
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Speaker 2: given right, And it was like eye for an eye
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Speaker 2: or in this case, shade for a shade, right, which again,
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Speaker 2: that's what we want to see our housewives, eye for
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Speaker 2: an eye, shade for a shade, and that's just what
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Speaker 2: we signed up for. What we did not sign up
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Speaker 2: for was a ton of microaggressions. And I think when
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Speaker 2: it comes to let's have a real conversation, we're not
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Speaker 2: going to skip the fact that Uba is a tall,
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Speaker 2: dark skinned black woman who is constantly being referred to
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Speaker 2: as the angry black woman trope. And this is what
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Speaker 2: Brent has said to her on camera behind the scenes
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Speaker 2: about I'm trying to help you not become that Uba,
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Speaker 2: whether you like her or not. Uba also is somebody
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Speaker 2: who has a big personality. She also is somebody that
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Speaker 2: you know, reacts in a big way.
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Speaker 1: But she's a reality star. That's her job.
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Speaker 2: Not her job meaning she's performing, but that's her job
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Speaker 2: in the sense. So that's why she was cash. She's beautiful,
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Speaker 2: she's successful. It's fine that she, you know, thinks she's
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Speaker 2: bigger than Naomi Campbell or on her level.
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Speaker 1: We like our reality stars to be a.
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Speaker 2: Little bit de Lulu, right, But that's that to me
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Speaker 2: is fun, you know, And I'm sure Uba would love
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Speaker 2: to have a conversation talking about that too, like it's fun.
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Speaker 2: We all should think we're bigger than what we are, Okay,
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Speaker 2: all of us have a little bit of delusion, Delulu
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Speaker 2: delusion in us, and it's cute, it's fine, it's whatever.
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Speaker 2: Uba was right, though she didn't just come up with
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Speaker 2: the whole like penis sucking thing. Brent said it. Uba
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Speaker 2: caught that and ran with it. It reminded me of
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Speaker 2: since on Ronnie. It's when Ramona told Bethany how pretty
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Speaker 2: much she slept her way to the top. And what
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Speaker 2: did Bethany do? She laughed and said, I can't fuck
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Speaker 2: my way to the bottom. How can I fuck my
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Speaker 2: way to the top when I can't even fuck my
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Speaker 2: way to the bottom.
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Speaker 1: Can somebody fuck me? That's what Bethany said.
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Speaker 2: That's why she's the icon, the legend, and the moment
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Speaker 2: on TikTok that she is.
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Speaker 1: I love Bethany. Bethany could do no rock of eyes.
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Speaker 1: I love her. Sorry, not sorry.
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Speaker 2: She's an icon, she's the legend, and she is the
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Speaker 2: moment on TikTok.
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Speaker 1: I like Bethany's TikTok.
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Speaker 2: But when someone accused her of sleeping her way to
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Speaker 2: the top, she caught that shade it, gave a funny
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Speaker 2: commentary to it, and we laughed and they kept it moving.
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Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying Brent should have said something else,
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Speaker 2: but it was one of those things where it was
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Speaker 2: sort of like I had a hard time grasping, like, Okay, Brin,
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Speaker 2: you didn't like what she said, got it clapped back
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Speaker 2: at her. So when she talked about being a black woman,
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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I got it. There's a lot of
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Speaker 2: people who believe Brin uses the black card for her convenience,
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Speaker 2: and I can't answer that because I don't watch the show.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of conversations that brin conveniently uses the
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Speaker 2: black card for her convenience. I, Carlos King, am not
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Speaker 2: able to comment on that because I do not watch
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Speaker 2: the show and I don't have time to sit through
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Speaker 2: fourteen episodes of this current season. I don't got the time. Child, No,
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Speaker 2: don't want to watch it. No shape, I'm just saying,
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Speaker 2: I just don't want to. I don't want to. I
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Speaker 2: don't want to.
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Speaker 1: Child.
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Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,
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Speaker 2: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
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Speaker 2: Based on what I've seen a brand, I'm struggling whether
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Speaker 2: or not she was using that as a way of
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Speaker 2: getting sympathy. I don't know if she was using the
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Speaker 2: black card to get sympathy.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I have to I really have to sit as a journalist,
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Speaker 2: hey Portia and watch all of these episodes to see
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Speaker 2: if that's her behavior. What I have seen based on
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Speaker 2: clip online is you know, when it comes to Uba,
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Speaker 2: I did not like the fact that all of these
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Speaker 2: women made her the bad guy when I'm like shade
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Speaker 2: of Shade and it's not like listen. In my opinion,
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Speaker 2: I didn't think Uba said anything that was like, oh
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Speaker 2: my god, you went too far.
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Speaker 1: She's like, maybe you slept to get this job.
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Speaker 2: I've heard worse things on Potomac, Atlanta, New Jersey, Salt
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Speaker 2: Lake City. We just talked about Salt Lake City finale
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Speaker 2: where Angie K wrote in a text message that Brahma's
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Speaker 2: husband has one foot in the grave and another on
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Speaker 2: a banana pill.
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Speaker 1: Like that's wild, right, wild.
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Speaker 2: Once again, it's one of those things where it's like,
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Speaker 2: no one on Salt Lake City read Angie kper philp
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Speaker 2: And again, I'm not saying everybody should behave the same way,
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Speaker 2: so please don't take it like that. But what I'm
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Speaker 2: saying is I just I'm just being real with y'all.
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Speaker 2: I did not understand why they all felt that what
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Speaker 2: Uba did was so gross and disgusting. I did not
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Speaker 2: understand that, and I felt like, let's have a real conversation.
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Speaker 2: She's a dark skin black woman, and unfortunately, dark skin
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Speaker 2: black women on TV are not given the same grace.
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Speaker 2: It's true, they can yell the same as their white
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Speaker 2: or lighter skin counterparts, and for some reason, when it
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Speaker 2: comes to a dark skin black female reality star, they're
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Speaker 2: seen as the aggressor, and I didn't understand why Uba
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Speaker 2: had to deal with that. I also, I also did.
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Speaker 2: I just don't understand why no one saw it that
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Speaker 2: way either in that moment. So when Brian was crying, saying,
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Speaker 2: as a black woman, you know, she doesn't want that stereotype.
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Speaker 1: Okay, got it, fine, got it.
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Speaker 2: She didn't revealed how she was raped, and obviously my
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Speaker 2: heart goes out to Bryn. No woman, anyone should ever
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Speaker 2: experience that a sault or any of saut for that matter.
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Speaker 1: But my heart goes out to Bryn. It really does.
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Speaker 2: When I saw her open up about that, I immediately
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Speaker 2: got emotional to see her cry and break down about that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, anybody who's a human being with a heart
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Speaker 2: felt the emotion from her, and I felt bad.
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Speaker 1: I really did. I'm like, oh my gosh, okay.
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Speaker 2: And when she said she told Uber that, I was like,
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Speaker 2: oh damn, okay, all right.
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Speaker 1: Do Uba?
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Speaker 2: You know My immediate thought was, does Uba remember being
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Speaker 2: told that? Okay, Let's let's find out, because I feel
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Speaker 2: like when you're on reality television, if someone makes a
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Speaker 2: strong accusation that way, I do feel like you have
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Speaker 2: to give that other person the opportunity to defend themselves
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Speaker 2: if they are able to defend something that is abhorrent, right,
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Speaker 2: but at least give them a floor to know that
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Speaker 2: this is what's being said about you. My heart also
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Speaker 2: goes out to Uba because if it wasn't for Jessel
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Speaker 2: going into her room when cameras were down and the
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Speaker 2: production was wrapped to tell Uba, like, this is what's
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Speaker 2: being said about you, even with Uba came in saying
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Speaker 2: while are all of y'all crying? And the ladies were like, well,
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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's not our story to tell.
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Speaker 1: I want to have a conversation about that.
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Speaker 2: I understand if Brent told that story to the girl's only,
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Speaker 2: then absolutely you should never tell someone else's story, especially
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Speaker 2: of that magnitude. What was interesting to me, though, is
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Speaker 2: Brent said she told Uba that. So if Brent said
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Speaker 2: to you ladies, I told Uba this story, shouldn't Uba
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Speaker 2: have the right to know what Brand said because she
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Speaker 2: allegedly said it to her.
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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: If Brent said I was assaulted sexually and Uba doesn't know,
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Speaker 2: but that's why I'm feeling this way, then I would
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Speaker 2: understand why the ladies would say Uba I can't tell
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Speaker 2: you what she said. That's her, that's her story to tell.
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Speaker 2: I agree with that one thousand percent. Brent said, I
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Speaker 2: told Uba this story, and despite her knowing this story,
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Speaker 2: she still proceeded to make these false accusations about me.
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Speaker 2: So if Brent told Uba this story and UBA's like, hey, guys,
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Speaker 2: what happened, isn't it okay for the lady to say, hey,
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Speaker 2: Brent said, she told you this story, so that Uba
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Speaker 2: could have had the opportunity to say yay or nay
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Speaker 2: because Brent said she told Uba. That's the part that
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Speaker 2: was interesting to me.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And the parts that it's hard for me to even
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Speaker 2: articulate is the fact that if it wasn't for Jessel
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Speaker 2: telling Uba behind the scenes of what Brent said, you
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Speaker 2: mean to tell me, Uba would have found out by
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Speaker 2: watching the show along with us at home, not having
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Speaker 2: opportunity to defend herself.
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Speaker 1: That would have been horrible.
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Speaker 2: Even if she knew and was told that, shouldn't she
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Speaker 2: have the opportunity to defend herself?
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Speaker 1: That's the only question that I have.
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Speaker 2: So Jessel tells her behind the scenes, and Brent and
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Speaker 2: Uba had this big reaction, and then in that moment,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a second, what's happening here? You mean
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Speaker 2: to tell me Uba didn't know? Because there's no way
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Speaker 2: that anybody can fake that reaction that Uba had. And
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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to Uber. I don't know Uber, I
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Speaker 2: know human behavior. I know within seconds, more than likely,
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Speaker 2: Uba felt like my career is finished if people believe this,
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Speaker 2: and that to me rightfully, so maye Uba feel like, no,
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Speaker 2: I have to talk about this. Not only am I
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Speaker 2: being accused of something that she's saying she didn't know,
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Speaker 2: it's also on camera and the world is going to
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Speaker 2: believe that. And Uba is running around the house frustrated. Rightfully,
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Speaker 2: So if she's being accused of something she didn't do
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Speaker 2: or wasn't told so due to her passionate display of
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Speaker 2: confusion and hurt. Then all of a sudden, these same
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Speaker 2: ladies who five minutes ago pretty much wrote her off,
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Speaker 2: now it's questioning that. Wait a second now, and again
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Speaker 2: these are things they said. I'm paraphrasing, But the ladies
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden started to realize, hmmm, but Brand.
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Speaker 1: Is kind of known to.
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Speaker 2: Hype things up, or take one thing and turn it
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Speaker 2: against somebody.
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Speaker 1: Again, I'm payaphraising.
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Speaker 2: And that's when me at home was like, wait a second,
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Speaker 2: please tell me this is not about to be what
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Speaker 2: I think it is. And I felt this a pit
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Speaker 2: of my stomach because my heart bled for Uba, because
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Speaker 2: no one deserves to be accused of something they did
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Speaker 2: not do, and no one deserves to be accused of
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Speaker 2: knowing something they did not know.
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Speaker 1: No one deserves that. Not one person deserves that.
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Speaker 2: And to watch within minutes, Brian walked into the room
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Speaker 2: of the girls and they see how the sympathy that
26:37
Speaker 2: they had for her five minutes ago was dissipating. And
26:42
Speaker 2: she saw this shift of energy in that room and
26:49
Speaker 2: she left, and then she came back minutes later, and
26:54
Speaker 2: then she proceeds to say, huh, well, maybe Uba didn't
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Speaker 2: clock it. Excuse me, this isn't a Cassie a watch
27:10
Speaker 2: clock what Either you told her this story or you didn't.
27:16
Speaker 2: It's not one way or the other. Either you told
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Speaker 2: her this story or you did not tell her this story.
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Speaker 2: What are we doing here? She didn't clock it? And
27:30
Speaker 2: that's the moment I said, Wow, this this is bad.
27:40
Speaker 2: This is this is this is bad. You can't sit
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Speaker 2: up there and accused someone of knowing information that you
27:52
Speaker 2: said you told them all the while.
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Speaker 1: You're not sure if you did.
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Speaker 2: Tell them specifically, And it took you minutes of seeing
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Speaker 2: your friends look at you side eye for you to
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Speaker 2: have that revelation.
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Speaker 1: Is is that we're being told right now?
28:21
Speaker 2: So within a few minutes of your friends looking at
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Speaker 2: you sideways, all of a sudden, your memory refreshed like
28:29
Speaker 2: my Apple laptop. And you're like, well, maybe she didn't
28:34
Speaker 2: clock it. Ah, So did it take your friends to
28:41
Speaker 2: give you the cold shoulder for your memory to work?
28:47
Speaker 2: And again I'm basing everything off of the episode she
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Speaker 2: made the statement the ladies rallied around her. Uba defends herself.
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Speaker 2: Minutes later, Bren Is like, well, maybe she didn't clock it.
29:16
Speaker 2: So if Uba never was told by Jesso what Brent said,
29:24
Speaker 2: what Brand's memory would have come back.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a real conversation.
29:34
Speaker 2: If Jesso never told Uba, and if Uba never compassionately
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Speaker 2: defended herself.
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Speaker 1: And what makes me so.
29:45
Speaker 2: Sad is not everybody has that personality to have a
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Speaker 2: big reaction to being lied on. What if Uba would
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Speaker 2: have quietly said, I don't remember, guys.
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Speaker 1: Would y'all have still believed Uba? So this.
30:08
Speaker 2: This person who's being called or concern from being called
30:17
Speaker 2: the angry black woman had to be a little bit
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Speaker 2: angry to be taken seriously.
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Speaker 1: You ge know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: If she quietly would have said, guys, I don't remember,
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Speaker 2: I think she's lying, would you guys have believed her?
30:31
Speaker 2: Or did it take her big reaction for you guys
30:34
Speaker 2: to say, oh, well, we look at Brent's history.
30:38
Speaker 1: She is known to kind of hype things up.
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Speaker 2: Again on paraphrasing, Why did it take Uber to have
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Speaker 2: a big reaction to believe her in the first place?
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Speaker 1: Why not know who Uber is as a person to
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Speaker 1: be like nah, I don't know, I don't know. Does
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Speaker 1: that sound like Uba? I don't know.
30:57
Speaker 2: We should talk to her about that, especially because Brent
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Speaker 2: said she told her.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: What have made sense to me is if I was
31:08
Speaker 2: Brent's friend, I would have said, hey, let's sit down.
31:13
Speaker 1: Let it be.
31:15
Speaker 2: If I'm Aaron Asi, I would have said to Brent, Hey, Brian,
31:20
Speaker 2: I see you having a big reaction.
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Speaker 1: This is horrible.
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Speaker 2: If Uba would have known this, I think if you
31:25
Speaker 2: tell Uba, since you told her anyway, how about you
31:29
Speaker 2: and Uba and me sit down without the other girls,
31:33
Speaker 2: and you tell her how you felt, tell her especially
31:38
Speaker 2: because you told her anyway, right, So what's wrong with
31:42
Speaker 2: telling her twice? Right? Why jump to conclusions girls without
31:51
Speaker 2: having the other person who was told this information allegedly
31:55
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to be told it a second time.
31:59
Speaker 1: Why not give uber that much grace?
32:09
Speaker 2: So then the next day we see Brent on the
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Speaker 2: college having a key key with the producers, and I
32:16
Speaker 2: also want to say shout out to the producers who
32:18
Speaker 2: handled this situation very very very very very very well.
32:21
Speaker 2: Shout out to the producer of the production. Obviously it
32:25
Speaker 2: was all chaotic, unexpected, and shout out to the producers,
32:34
Speaker 2: and shout out to the producers for making sure the
32:37
Speaker 2: audience saw that as well, so that we're able to
32:41
Speaker 2: understand the phull scope of the situation. So as we
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Speaker 2: see Brin in the morning key king with the producers,
32:47
Speaker 2: and she.
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Speaker 1: Sent a text to them the night before.
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Speaker 2: Saying that you know, she wanted to leave whatever, and
32:58
Speaker 2: she left, And then they have the photo shoot for
33:02
Speaker 2: the show and they all pretty much are saying they
33:07
Speaker 2: haven't really touched base with Bran, and then Brian walks
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Speaker 2: in pretty much and they kind of give her the
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Speaker 2: coach shoulder, and she knows she's not giving the sympathy
33:18
Speaker 2: she once had. Even in Brent's Confessionals, she's she's somewhat
33:31
Speaker 2: not really telling us the audience based on what she
33:39
Speaker 2: said the night before, right, maybe Uber then clock it.
33:44
Speaker 1: I wanted an explanation.
33:46
Speaker 2: The confessionals are taped sometimes days, weeks, months after filming
33:52
Speaker 2: a finale. Okay, So the fact that in the Confessionals,
33:57
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to get a full story, well what
34:01
Speaker 2: really happened?
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Speaker 1: We weren't given that.
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Speaker 2: Well, what we were given was UBA's emotional confessionals, to
34:14
Speaker 2: where she was able to emphatically state that being accused
34:20
Speaker 2: of that just isn't her character. That's not who she is,
34:24
Speaker 2: and she's crying because it's not right. So as a journalist, Hey, Portia,
34:37
Speaker 2: I want to read to you all what Brent said
34:40
Speaker 2: to Rolling Stone. So I'll reach all the highlights. It's
34:48
Speaker 2: a pretty lengthy article, but I want to be able to,
34:53
Speaker 2: you know, give you guys all sides of the story,
34:56
Speaker 2: right and the latest end to be you Brand assured
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Speaker 2: fans that she did reveal personal details to her co
35:06
Speaker 2: star and this is what she said and quote It's
35:12
Speaker 2: not right to assume that everyone remembers everything that you
35:15
Speaker 2: say all the time and then hold them accountable for that.
35:20
Speaker 2: I know for a fact that I said it, but
35:24
Speaker 2: when someone screaming into the phone, the other person might
35:28
Speaker 2: not necessarily hear them. I know what I said, and
35:33
Speaker 2: I know that I did say it. When it comes
35:39
Speaker 2: to that statement alone, I'm just gonna be very honest
35:43
Speaker 2: if that's the case, I'm just wondering why that statement
35:48
Speaker 2: wasn't set on the show. Why did it take months
35:54
Speaker 2: after filming for you to come up with that statement.
36:04
Speaker 2: I watched the finale, I watched her confessionals. Unless you're
36:10
Speaker 2: telling me they did not air it and that you
36:13
Speaker 2: said it in the chair, I'm not certain if that's
36:18
Speaker 2: how you feel your exact words are. I know for
36:23
Speaker 2: a fact that I said it, but when someone screaming
36:26
Speaker 2: into the phone, the other person might not necessarily hear them.
36:29
Speaker 2: I know what I said, and I know that I
36:32
Speaker 2: did say it. Why does it take a Rolling Stone
36:37
Speaker 2: journalist and your publicist and your team to organize this
36:48
Speaker 2: interview for that statement to happen months after filming, Because
36:54
Speaker 2: in my opinion, that statement should have been said on
36:56
Speaker 2: the show. Maybe it's said at the reunion, but I'm
37:01
Speaker 2: just being real. If that's how you feel, if your
37:05
Speaker 2: memory within a couple of minutes in that heated finale, right,
37:11
Speaker 2: you went from saying I told her to well maybe
37:14
Speaker 2: she didn't.
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Speaker 1: Clock it, and then you left it alone.
37:19
Speaker 2: So if your memory works that way within minutes, why
37:24
Speaker 2: didn't it work within minutes from you leaving the trip
37:27
Speaker 2: to sitting in your confessional chair to say the same.
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Speaker 1: Statement, That's all I'm saying.
37:35
Speaker 2: When watching the finale, Brent was surprised to see her
37:38
Speaker 2: cast accusing her of intentionally lying. Brent says, that was shocking.
37:45
Speaker 2: You're telling me that in the three minutes. But what
37:48
Speaker 2: I'm called horrible names, and I'm obviously upset that I
37:53
Speaker 2: somehow devised a plan. It's disgusting that I'm talking about
37:58
Speaker 2: two things that I will hope that no woman or
38:01
Speaker 2: person would have to experience suicide and sexual assault. And
38:06
Speaker 2: everyone's like, Bran, we feel taken advantage of. Maybe don't
38:11
Speaker 2: use those words to describe the situation. I just feel
38:15
Speaker 2: like I wasn't shown much. The other thing Brent said
38:24
Speaker 2: in this article is before hitting to Puerto Rico, Brent
38:28
Speaker 2: said she said down with her brother in Central Park
38:31
Speaker 2: to open up about how her past sexual assault has
38:35
Speaker 2: prevented her from being focused more on dating. Brent says,
38:40
Speaker 2: I filmed with my brother and I share the connection
38:43
Speaker 2: between that and why I'm kind of dodging dating and
38:48
Speaker 2: why I make jokes about only dating billionaires. She tells
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Speaker 2: Rolling Stone, I thought sharing. I thought sharing was going
38:58
Speaker 2: to help me feel better. And one of the other
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Speaker 2: highlights is she has stated that she's not too sure
39:07
Speaker 2: where her friendship stands with the cast. She says with Uba,
39:14
Speaker 2: I think what's done is done. I feel like we
39:17
Speaker 2: will get back, but it takes time to repair. I
39:25
Speaker 2: don't know how they're able to move on from this.
39:29
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. I don't know. I guess
39:32
Speaker 2: we have the Washington Reunion to see. Look, when it
39:37
Speaker 2: comes to brand I would like to say this. My
39:40
Speaker 2: heart goes out to her from what she experienced. Like
39:45
Speaker 2: I said earlier, no woman, person, man, who mayver should
39:47
Speaker 2: experience that, an assault, sexual assault, any form of salt.
39:53
Speaker 2: It's my heart goes out to her. I think Brian,
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Speaker 2: I would love for Brent to.
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Speaker 1: Have a professional talk to just about some things she's
40:08
Speaker 1: dealt with.
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Speaker 2: That's my hope for her. Therapy is great. I'm in therapy.
40:16
Speaker 2: You know, being a therapy doesn't mean you have problems
40:21
Speaker 2: that isn't able to be handled without a professional help.
40:28
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody in the world should have a therapist.
40:30
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. We live in we live in
40:33
Speaker 2: crazy times, and.
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Speaker 1: I just think everybody should have a professional talk to.
40:41
Speaker 1: That's That's been my my advocate for that.
40:46
Speaker 2: I just want brand to talk to somebody. That's that's
40:56
Speaker 2: that's my hope for her. This was a hard episode
41:02
Speaker 2: to watch. I don't know where the girls would come.
41:05
Speaker 2: I don't know where the girls can go from here.
41:10
Speaker 2: I just don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't know.
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Speaker 2: I didn't think going back into watching this season, you know,
41:21
Speaker 2: watching up finale, it was going to be this. I
41:24
Speaker 2: watched you because obviously it was a talk of the town,
41:28
Speaker 2: and my social media was blown up by people wanting
41:31
Speaker 2: my opinion on this. I really feel bad for Uba,
41:41
Speaker 2: I really do. My heart seriously goes out to Uber
41:49
Speaker 2: and I'm grateful that Jessel told her because I'm afraid
41:54
Speaker 2: if Jessel didn't, what the conversation would be like today.
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