Latest / To Your Success! Podcast / Episode 57: If I Lost Everything, Here's What I'd Do Differently
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- Christer: If everything disappeared tomorrow, what would you do? Including you? I would be free. No, that's a bad joke. Okay. That's a really good question. Yeah. Right? If everything disappeared, what would I do? Mm-hmm. Right? What is what was the first thing you would do? I would take one day off. Okay. Yeah, sit just sit and calm, right? Just absorb the situation. Everything disappears means means everything, right? I'm alone. I can build a new life. Right. I'm not gonna live in the past. What has happened has happened is done. Cannot of course there will be grief, there will be sadness, but also it will be a lot of new possibilities. Because I know so much more now than five years ago when I started to create this life. Right? I'm pretty sure it took eighteen months from I went all in until we celebrated our freedom. Now it will take eighteen days. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a completely different level. So what skills do you think you would rely on the most and rebuilding everything? My mindset. Your mindset. Yeah. Okay. Ten times self confident, ten times proud, ten times grateful, a hundred times the knowledge of how to do it. I would just restart, right? Mm. I was sometimes think thinking that if I won't really wanted to have a skill to start all over again selling with bid ones. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, because everything is sales sales, so everything is sales, right? But yeah, yeah. So your mindset. But your mindset is not your skill. No, when you think about skill set I agree, but I mean when you say everything is gone, it's like physical, right? My brain is not gone. So I can still I can still teach, I can still be a mentor. If my brain is gone well then I'm gonna just enjoy. That's a different story. Yeah, unconditional, unknowingly happy. That's a good way. no I I would just I I wouldn't start over as we do it today. No. I would sail much more. I would work with the kind of clients we work with now. Hi really high end clients. I would only have a few clients. I would definitely sail more, enjoy life more. And we are on that path now. We are. Right, but I wouldn't start where I started five years ago. No. But you would actually start to doing this same kind of life. Just s just start on a higher level and But what I think so. I cannot I cannot stop. I cannot stop helping people. That that's my life purpose. Freedom is my life purpose, but then to help other people live the same thing is is is my purpose as well. So no I I think I would be very bored. I would be very, very sad not being out on sea. I would definitely dig a big rabbit hole and jump into that if I if I cannot have a boat. It just means that you are on the right track now. Yeah, yeah. It it feels like that. So w what kind of mistakes what not mistake, but what are the things that you would not do if everything was what would you not do again? I would not be so scared. I I would not be because I was scared for a lot of things, just like a lot of other people, right? And it comes out in different ways. It comes out if i it can come out as like that you are distracted that you distract yourself, it can come out as anger, unsecurity and anger, it can come out as overthinking. I so I will be much more targeted. I know what to do. I just do it in a different way. than than when I started. So the main things that I have learned is that I will take much more care of my energy, always be in a good mood, always focus on on what I can do and always move I would definitely move faster. I would go bigger, go faster than I did. Yeah. Yeah. And that comes from self confidence and trust. Yeah. I think so. Then I would again connect I I wouldn't stop having a mentor. I would go back to to our mentors, right? And say that I'm ready to ten times. You know, and when I say this, I feel that that is who I want to be as well. Right. So why not do it now? Yeah. Which is what we ought is basically what we ask all our clients and all our prospects, why not now? Right? And then they have all these excuses. Well It is that, it is that I'm not ready, I have invested, right? And then and then I have invested into this and it's a five year package, it's the biggest slavery. When people offer you like packages of shares, it's not a gift, right? It's a slavery contract. It's okay. Right? I have had those contracts myself. Yeah, of course. So I know it. You just have to be aware, as a high achiever, you just have to be aware that that is a slave contract. Right? You are bought. Right? That is why they give it to you. To keep you there, yeah, of course. To keep you there. Of course you do. Right. So that's w but would you not do that now if everything was starting all over again? You have had that kind of contracts, but I would never go back to the corporate world. I would rather die than go back to that. Yeah. No, but it's true. I I that wouldn't change. The con the corporate world is not for me anymore. It has changed so much. I I would be a very, very strange player in that field now. I think if you ask people that want to work with you, like have you as your mentor, if we had asked them the same question that I ask you now, what would you do if everything disappeared tomorrow? Yeah. They would have a completely different way of answering. Because your answer is actually you would kind of do the same thing that you're doing now. Just you would have do it bigger. You would do it bigger. But a lot of the people that come to us is more like then I would just go do something completely different. So but we do something completely different already. I mean and and I I sometimes I want to leave everything behind just like everyone else, right? And just say that let's go sailing for three years. Yeah. And that feels really good. I just know that I will I i it's I will get bored and also it will be sad not to share the knowledge and the insight we have and not to help other people because it's so joy it's so much joy. And so much passion and so much I mean, this is a heartfelt business, you know that we talk about our clients, right? How can we help in a better way? How can we serve? Are there anything we can do for them, right? Just like a few days ago we came up with a new concept, right? Inspired from others that maybe we should do that too. And then you launched it and immediately you got a response from our clients. Yeah. It's just wow, it's served on a higher level. Right? And I think as as human beings we ha At least me then, as a human being, I see myself in two ways. Right? I want to see how far I can go in this life. I want to go around the world, right? Every day I repeat us sailing up under Harb under Sydney Harbour Bridge. We're gonna sail there, yeah. Yeah. And I remember I told my mentor he asked me about my goal in a call we were in and I I said I want to go to Sydney and said, That's easy, there's to buy a ticket. And then I said now we're gonna sail there. That's the other side of the world. He didn't catch that because he's not a sailor, but that's like that's crossing the Atlantic, it's crossing the Pacific and it's like it's a Yeah, and the Pacific is like six six to eight weeks continuous sailing, right? Without seeing anyone. It's a big challenge. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. so so Going back to this, it's like, yeah, the purpose is how far can I go? But the my purpose is also just like your purpose is helping others. And I remember I told you I don't want your help. And that was really frustrating and sad for you. Yeah, and the same thing for me. It's like I we love helping people. And if people say no, that's fine, they're loss, right? But we know we can help you. And I don't say that we can help you sail around the world. Well, if you want to sail around the world we can teach you a lot about failures and do's and don'ts there as well, and it's easier than you think, right? It's a lot easier actually. It's just a habit. It's just a habit, right? You just train, you just train, you just train. But I remember the first time we crossed the North Sea, right? When you and Thomas were sitting downstairs puking and I was up there afraid. Right? Because I misread the weather. That's not the habit. But then sailing and practicing is is a habit and that's the effortless way. You just practice, right? And peop things are not difficult, it's just different. So so to start over all over again, what would I actually do? I don't have the ambitions of having a really big company. I know other people have that, a lot of employees and all that. I had a lot of employees, I don't want to have employees. but I I would like to help more people to go on a higher level. I would like to change the world, because I think the world is way too mechanical and too little inspirational, too little intuitive now. And and I know how to do that. So I I guess I would just done that. But done it ten times, right? Not not from the level I started, but from this level up. Just go even more all in. And we go a lot of all in. We do, yeah. But what kind of habits would you prioritise? Because that's important too. Yeah, the habit of being uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. And that for me it sounds uncomfortable. Out of the comfort zone. Yeah. So prioritize always feeling uncomfortable. That's where the changes lie. Yeah, that is where the acres of diamonds, right? That is where all the unseen possibilities are because Our perception is so limited by our comfort zone, right? But it's important I tell I tell my elite clients that now. I'm gonna put away the glasses. Yes please because they Okay. That's okay. the comfort zone is not the for most people it's not about what you do. It's about what you shall stop doing. Mm-hmm. And stop doing means that and that's really uncomfortable. We have elite clients That have worked a lot and created great results and now they want to take the next step and they have realized that grinding, working harder is not possible. And then they have to stop doing things and they feel bad. They get they get bad cons I mean they feel bad. They feel bad about not doing it. Am I doing enough? What am I helping enough, right? Do I have control? Yeah. No. Especially do I have control? That's And then so that is the biggest thing is like stop doing all the things that you are used to because success is about doing fewer things better, not more things. Right? It is the eighty twenty rule. I guess I would have been extremely raw on eighty twenty rule. I am pretty raw on that too, right? I'm yeah. But so actually you would stop doing you you would the habits is doing less and look for the things that makes you uncomfortable. Yeah. And then sometimes most of the time I think that is stop doing things and then you have to do some certain things as well. And I'm always looking for things that will take me out of my comfort zone. Because I I that and that that is not because I like the risk. It's not about risking life. But if we wanted to have a simple life, we would not be in this boat. We would not and we are out of the comfort zone when we organise this, right? With our free webinars, with our Our calls with clients and calls with prospects and selling and doing all that and running the business. No we have to So you say that you're out of the comfort zone when you touch me? No. I'm not. But that's a completely different podcast. That's a different podcast. I'm not sure that should be a podcast. No, I So but that brings me to my next question actually, because how starting all over again, how important would relationships with others be in that process? What kind of relationship relationships with a few. Mm-hmm. Right. A lot of people say that, it's so important. And we have talked just recently, the last weeks, we have talked to a lot of people, high achievers, they they run their business and they are so into this, I need to connect with other people. And we know that from other clients as well. And I say why? But that is where I learned no. No, right? I did that mistake too, right? I have a big network in the corporate world, right? And and I could o I can I still can always call someone if I need it, but I don't need that anymore. But it is not who you are connected to in terms of what they have done, what kind of title they have, etc. Right? Because they will know they are not door openers. It is what you're looking for, are those five people that you can have closest to you. And they don't have titles, right? But they are great thinkers. They have the mindset. They have the mindset. And you have to start looking for mindset, right? Because I have met people high, high, high up in large organizations, and I wonder why. Why did they come there? I don't say that they're stupid, they're really good in that system. Mm-hmm. Right? But I want I I want to have great thinkers around me. So the first one I would connect is my mentor. The first one I would pick up the phone and say, Hey, I lost everything. I wanna restart. Right? I just I'm just ready to go. Yeah. And I'm I'm just yeah. This is my second chance, right? Now I'm gonna do it. Yeah. Again. Again. Yeah. Yeah. Even if I had lost all the money, right? Mm-hmm. It's like yeah. Yeah, because you know it I had borrowed from someone or just ask for help. Yeah, and because you know this is this is how you're supposed to do it. This is Is it what works? Yeah, but I would I would settle for one day first, as I said. Yeah. One day off, let it sink in and then I know after just five, six, seven hours of rest the plan has started ticking. Right? I would have started writing down all the ideas. What do I do? But remember it is the mindset that you're looking for, right? And you're never better than the five people closest to you. I would most likely have moved to America. Yeah, why why is that? because I like the energy there. Okay. Yeah, and it's just a totally different abundance, totally different it's a bigger market. So much bigger market, right? So gone there, bought a boat, lived on the boat, bought a catamaran maybe. I don't know. Maybe I would I would most likely have that's the physical thing, so Yeah, but I'm gonna move to Miami. I think s Miami or Phoenix. I don't know Do you think you will find more people focusing on mindset in the US than compared to Norway? Well, you have to go back to what Bob Proctory said. If I if I have a hundred people in a room, Bob said. I think there are two or three of you that actually can grab this and create the life you want, right? It is two to three percent. It still is. Right? I think actually it's less. Right? Our market is not is not Norway now. Today our market is we we we run our our our marketing based on time zones because I don't want to work at night. No. Right? And all we do is live. So we say, Well, within these time zones, right? So we can work with New York, which is six hours, but we cannot work with Australia, which is twelve hours different, right? We can, but then they have to stay up during nighttime in the They're they will, right? And some do. But when we sail there, we're going to work with those audiences. Yes. And that's gonna be fun when we're gonna sail the west coast of up up to Alaska. Because we actually change our client market depends on where we are in the world and that's kind of cool too. I think losing everything I have, I will so much more appreciate the freedom. Right. And I and and also if you lose everything you have, you will realise that those things were not important. Right? Because it's so easy to be attached to the things you have. Right. The Indian philosophers that a man should not own more than seven things. I totally disagree. I need more than seven things. How many purses do you have? Purses? I don't know, shoes. You can talk about shoes. Yeah, but you're a woman, so he said a man, right? But But there is some truth in it because the things will never make you happy. No. No, it doesn't matter. It is the pursuit to the goal that makes you happy. It's on the way to the goal that you live the life you want. When you and that is on that way, when you when you use your mindset the right way. That is when the brain releases the dopamine. Right? And if you go into the physics and the science of neuroscience to match that with mindset, this is not only thinking, this is physics, right? We think seventy thousand thoughts a day. Some say eighty, but I I use seventy, right? and if you think seventy thousand thoughts a day, then ninety-five percent of them are automated. It's just habits. That that's the way I eat, that's the way I dress, that's the way I I sleep, that's the way, that's the way, that's the way, that's the way, that's the way. Habits, habits, habits, habits. Then five percent of your thoughts, meaning three thousand five hundred thoughts a day, which is pretty much you're conscious about them. Meaning that you can choose what you want to think, right? And that is when you realize that those three thousand five hundred thoughts are actually the thoughts that create your life, then you become aware of how you think. It's not about positive thinking, it's about precise thinking, right? And when you are precise in your thinking, meaning that you only think about what you want, not what you don't want, when you don't focus on your current results because you know that the five physical senses are only here for you to experience what you have manifested and created so far. Then you step up and you say, I'm gonna go there, right? I'm gonna in my mind go there. And then you train your brain to live the life you want. And the brain is a happy engine. It is a happy it it I mean it drugs you all the time. It the brain can drug you with unhappy hormones or happy hormones, right? And you choose. Right? And what is it to be depressed? To be depressed is to focus on you only. To only let the circumstances around you control you. Right? And then you think about that and it gets smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and you spin around. Then you have to get a broader perspective on life. Right? What is the purpose of life? Why do I live this? Right? Why do I live this life? Do I live it only because on Friday I can have a beer with my friends? Is it because it's a soccer game on Sunday? Is it because on or is it because I party every Saturday? No, it's not. Life is bigger than that. Right. Life is so much bigger than that. For me it is how far can I go? And I'm not stopping. I see when I look at the camera here that I'm getting grey. Yeah, I'm getting grey. Right? I'm fifty seven years old in my heart. You can wear caps like me. No, I don't need I'm proud of who I am. I don't need to hide, right? No, I didn't used to be that. No. No, but I am. So so f it's so important to focus on the goal because goals are good for your soul. And your soul is who you are. Right? You are not your things. We have had this big discussion for many years if we should buy a bigger boat. Yeah. Yeah. We don't discuss it that much. We talk about it. We talk about it. And and I can I can agree with my mentor who said that, well, since you don't have it, it's not the goal. No. No, it's more that I like to look at other boats. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you're looking at other men. Do I? Yes. Okay. but but point is that But it won't make us happy, that's my point. Exactly. Except that I have this vision of of a bigger boat because we can have our family on board more. Yeah, but that's okay, but we can all also put them in a hotel like we're doing now when when my kids are coming to visit. Yeah. Next it's only one and a half week. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So that's gonna be fun. Yeah. But but I think that To look at other boats, to have that that has never been your goal actually to have that big boat. I think the the traveling around the world is your goal. Yeah. And we do that now. Yeah. So we haven't been around the world yet. But we are actually very far up. Yeah we are on the way. Yeah, we are like we are doing it. We have done fifteen percent. We have eighty five percent. Okay, but I want to let us ask you something else. I know that You have a lot of talks with your son, Andreas. Yeah. So that's like giving advice to the younger you because it's a lot like you. If you had been the younger you like him today, what is the b best advice you could have given Satra yourself? Satra. Yeah. Don't be afraid. Yeah, but to say that to someone who is twenty e twenty eight, Yeah, but he knows it works. Yeah, he knows, but to give you that advice for you at his age. 28. No, I would still say set high goals. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I I had that talk with him, you know, and and because he applied for a job that was way above his level and he asked Do you think I should apply for the job? I said, Do you want it? He said yes. I said, then you should do it. I'll help you. I'll help you. Right? And then I said, because he's an athlete, he's a swimmer, so he's he's used to that either you win or you lose. Right. Number two is first loser in his mind. He doesn't like that at all. Which is great, but you still have to you still have to manage that competitive mind. Right? So I said to him, Well, if you get it it's great, if you don't get it it's great. What do you mean? You will learn so much and you will grow and he applied for it, he didn't get it. Right? And I said, This is the best thing that has ever happened to you. You just haven't seen it yet. And now it happens, right? Because what I told him was that the guy that got that job, you should sit down and have a talk with him and you can learn so much from him. And then you will be ready for the next step, right? And now he's ready for the step. And now he's ready for the next step. Yeah. And I also told him that, you know, other people, they have accepted the the the idea that you k that you have to be like not old but like in forty, fifties before you are CEO. I said we don't do that. And on purpose I said we don't do that because I was twenty nine when I was CEO first time. I said we are different and just accept that idea. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm not playing with his mind, I'm I'm I'm nurturing his mind, right? Of course. But I don't want him to be arrogant. I want him to be humble. So I always tell him that stay humble, do a great job, deliver high quality. So that's actually the best goal you would have given yourself as well. Yeah, I wasn't Be humble. I was more scared than humble, you know. And that's when I was scared and afraid that turned out that I protected myself. So I guess I people arrogant. Yeah, people saw me more as arrogant, but inside I was just afraid of not being good enough. so yeah, stay humble. Yeah. But then set high goals. Don't be afraid. And I I I remember a psychiatrist, Norwegian psychiatrist that you have to be careful setting high goals because you might be disappointed if you don't reach them. I I just he hasn't understood a thing. A thing. Right? Yeah. Because the purpose of the goal is where you become on the way. It's not to reach it because when you have reached it is like done, then you just set a new goal. And so don't be afraid of that. It's the best thing you can do. Stretching. Yeah, and then people are afraid of setting high goals and they just say just write down what you want, you don't Don't tell anyone. Write down by hand what you want. I'm so happy and grateful now that I sail around the world, now that I I enjoy my effortless freedom, now that I have the perfect marriage, now that I'm healthy, wealthy and happy, whatever it is. I have my own company. I do that, I do that. Just write it down. And don't be afraid of what other people think. No, they don't think about you. Back to where we started. What would you do if everything just you'd lost everything? and and for me everything to lose everything is to die. Yeah, yeah, but you mean all the physical things. I don't think we lose everything when we die, we just pass on. Yeah, okay, but but it's more like if you woke up tomorrow and this business was gone, everything was gone. Yeah. And and you were not able to do this like when you woke up today. It would be different. You are talking about during this this episode you are talking about that you will do most of the same things, just on a higher level. Mm-hmm. So why are you so certain that you will rebuild this kind of life again? Why are you so certain about that? Because I never give up. I will never give up. I and I get a little bit scared inside when you say that w if you lose everything, right? It it's a scary thought. It makes me think, so it's a really good question. But it's like no, I just don't want to give up. You know, and the difference between those who are successful and those who are not is that they first of all you don't learn, right? You're afraid of doing mistakes. Mistakes are the best things you can do, right? Because then you learn. because it forces you to change and then never, never, never, never give up. Don't you dare to give up, right? Just hang there with one finger and then focus on what you want, right? Yeah. Yeah. I I I am never giving up. Right. I think I'm just I just created that way and then I'm shaped that way. Right? It's up to me. Yeah, and you have worked with your mindset for several years, so you have made your mind work this way as well. Yeah. So Yeah, not to do it is not an alternative. It's like no, it's all in. And that's important, right? All in is hundred percent. It's not ninety-nine percent. All in is hundred percent. I'm always looking for where am I not hundred percent in. Right? And it's just challenging, challenging, challenging yourself. And the challenge, we talked about that before too, the challenge with like this personal development mindset work and all that. It's really cool. Right? But when you have first started You cannot stop that. No. Right? It is just I cannot stop thinking. I I don't say that you don't think, but you have mental activity, right? But there is a huge difference between using your using your reasoning ability and and having mental activity. Mental activity is is reacting to everything that happens around you. Right? Thinking is creating strategies and creating ways to reach From the goal, not to the goal, not from where you're from where you are now. That is the mistake most people do. I am here, therefore I cannot do. I I had a call with a woman last week who said she had this big incentive program and she had to stay five years. And I said you only think about the alternative cost. You only think about what you will lose. You don't think that by doing what I tell you, you will make much so much more money in three years than in those five years. And not only that. It's not worth you sitting there hating your job for five years just because of the money instead of making more money in shorter time doing what you love. And exactly that kind of r statement that you came with there. That that's why you are a mentor. Yeah. This is this is how you teach people how to Yeah, and she didn't like it at all. No, no, no, she got she got angry. Yeah. But it's true. Yeah, it is. It is true. It's true. I mean we make more money now than when we were in other jobs, right? And it's like, yeah, but it's so much more fun. Yeah. And we work less. We work less, right? But there was a year, the first remember the first year I had this really big goal and I did it, but I did it through grinding. I worked too hard. And then I thought then I thought I don't want this stress anymore. So then I changed my goal and we dropped in turnover in sales. Right? And then we brought you into the business as well. Right? So but it's not worth it. Grinding is not worth it, right? Life is supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be feeling good. That there are sometimes there are shitty days, yes. Like when we almost lost lost our boat. That it is in sales that there are hard days when you get more no's than yes, yes it is. But it's their loss. If they don't want to work with us, fine. Your loss. You have no idea what you miss. No, because we have clients that I mean when I when I had my birthday, one of my clients sent me a thank you for change Thank you for changing my life. And that and changing his life to twelve months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like yeah, we see that over and over again. So that is why it works, right? So that is why I cannot stop either. Because my heart is filled with the love of helping others. So I think the the lesson from this this episode is that if you really love what you do and you feel you are on the right track and you always challenge yourself and you change and you are in that mindset process. If you lost everything today, you will start to do the same thing all over again because you are on the right track. When you do it right the first time you will do it. And because the knowledge you have you cannot unknown the knowledge you have. You cannot unsee what you have seen. You just change. You just say, Okay, this is this has happened. But it's the biggest proof that you do what you want. This is so bad it has to be really good. Yeah. Yeah. And if you ask yourself that question that you you would actually throw everything away and start doing something else, then you're on the r wrong track. I would not build a production company again. I would not do that. I would not do that. I would not go back to the corporate world, no. No, no. So you know your questions today were were eye opening for me too. I can say You're welcome. It's really good. This is the kind of discussions we have together when we are alone so people will get more into who we are I mean we are we are who we are, right? We are. And we are and for us this is a heartfelt business. Yeah, it is. And you know, let me sum up with this. What is success? Success to many people is the physical things, right? The money in the bank, you have the the shares, you have the house, you have two so you have a summer house and a winter house up in the mountains, you have a chalet, you have two Porsches in the garage, whatever it is, no, it is not Success is to live the life you truly want. And truly want means that you feel it in your heart. Right? And that is why we say everything we do is to your success. Because our goal is to help you live the life you truly want. Bye bye for now. Bye bye.