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- 0:03Speaker 1: may be, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
- 0:06Speaker 1: is Brian and this is the X Space call in,
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- 0:35Speaker 1: Johnny Carson and hosting a show without her, which is
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- 1:59Speaker 1: do is we're gonna look at this Twitter page. Unfortunately,
- 2:03Speaker 1: there's no way for me to share this with the
- 2:05Speaker 1: people inside of the X space because X hasn't made
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- 2:14Speaker 1: you know, like pages or things within the space itself.
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- 2:27Speaker 1: Although there is like a delay of about I want
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- 2:45Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be listening to anything. I'm just gonna
- 2:46Speaker 1: be looking at something. So today we have this this
- 2:50Speaker 1: post that was going pretty viral on X which I'm
- 2:55Speaker 1: gonna share with you guys, from someone named short Squeeze
- 2:59Speaker 1: and and they have this obvious AI image, but the
- 3:02Speaker 1: AI image is not important. It's just there to like create,
- 3:05Speaker 1: you know, attention, and the tweet reads this breaking. The
- 3:10Speaker 1: New York Times found dating for women in New York
- 3:13Speaker 1: City is so brutal that some dating events are charging
- 3:16Speaker 1: women one hundred dollars and men zero dollars, and the
- 3:21Speaker 1: attendance ratio is still three to one women to men.
- 3:25Speaker 1: So I thought this was interesting. We can look at
- 3:29Speaker 1: some of the replies here, so basically, okay, we are
- 3:32Speaker 1: talking about something kind of specific. Number one, we're looking
- 3:34Speaker 1: at New York City, so there's a little bit of
- 3:37Speaker 1: context there. I looked into it just to confirm, because
- 3:41Speaker 1: you know, Twitter or X it rewards you for engagement,
- 3:45Speaker 1: so you could like bait people into like clicking on things,
- 3:50Speaker 1: and a lot of people do. Rage bait is particularly
- 3:53Speaker 1: popular on x There's a lot of like really overtly
- 3:57Speaker 1: misandrous things that I that come across my feed and
- 4:00Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, okay, you're just trying to get
- 4:01Speaker 1: a rise out of me. I'm not going to go
- 4:03Speaker 1: along with it. Although I don't think it's they're lying
- 4:06Speaker 1: about their feelings either. I think they're using their miss
- 4:09Speaker 1: injury to like basically get attention on the internet. But
- 4:13Speaker 1: all right, so what this comes from. There's a New
- 4:16Speaker 1: York Times piece, a podcast they call The Daily, and
- 4:20Speaker 1: they have an episode called is the Swipe Era Over?
- 4:23Speaker 1: And it came out this month in February, not not
- 4:26Speaker 1: long ago, which went viral and sparked a ton of
- 4:29Speaker 1: online discussion. In New York City's current dating scene, especially
- 4:33Speaker 1: for straight singles in their thirties through forties, so we're
- 4:36Speaker 1: looking at people that are getting into middle age. Organizers
- 4:40Speaker 1: of singles, mixers, speed dating, and curated events like wine
- 4:44Speaker 1: tastings or small gatherings are facing a persistent problem. Way
- 4:48Speaker 1: more women sign up than men, even when they make
- 4:52Speaker 1: events free for men and charge women up to one
- 4:55Speaker 1: hundred dollars. In some cases, the attendants often stay skewed
- 4:59Speaker 1: like to one women to men, or sometimes worse at
- 5:03Speaker 1: smaller events. So this is actually a phenomenon that at
- 5:08Speaker 1: least is being recorded in New York City, and I
- 5:11Speaker 1: think that it's kind of like a problem everywhere. If
- 5:14Speaker 1: you're getting it in New York, you know, like it's
- 5:17Speaker 1: not exclusive to New York, because it means that any
- 5:20Speaker 1: place is, especially in urban area's big cities where you
- 5:24Speaker 1: have a lot of people and they're trying to meet.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I bet that this is also an issue Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago,
- 5:32Speaker 1: you know, any big city, basically Toronto, whatever it is.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And it's not really helpful that most of these cities
- 5:39Speaker 1: are pretty paused in terms of like their you know,
- 5:43Speaker 1: belief systems. They tend to be way more feminist leaning,
- 5:47Speaker 1: they tend to be more woke, and I think that
- 5:49Speaker 1: men are just kind of like repelled by this, and
- 5:53Speaker 1: I think they should be, you know, especially if they're
- 5:56Speaker 1: like hoping to date or something, or you know, hoping
- 5:59Speaker 1: to meet someone. But there is some more to this.
- 6:03Speaker 1: So organizers are saying people who organize these events. So
- 6:08Speaker 1: let's back up for a second. A lot of people
- 6:10Speaker 1: do this stuff. Like there's dating apps, right, and we
- 6:13Speaker 1: know dating apps are like they don't work very well.
- 6:16Speaker 1: And I think that men are at least discovering that
- 6:21Speaker 1: dating apps are not really a good use of their time.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Like if you think about it, if you make a
- 6:27Speaker 1: profile on a dating app, you're probably unless you find
- 6:31Speaker 1: some way to stand out against like millions of men,
- 6:34Speaker 1: you're probably just going to disappear into obscurity because women.
- 6:41Speaker 1: I mean, there was all you know, studies were done
- 6:42Speaker 1: on this that was like a thing where a guy
- 6:45Speaker 1: pretended to be a woman on a dating app. I
- 6:48Speaker 1: think it was on Hinge, and he basically got a
- 6:51Speaker 1: friend to take pictures, like a female friend, and he
- 6:54Speaker 1: created a profile and he was getting matches like immediately,
- 6:59Speaker 1: you know, like he is getting hundreds of matches a day.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And this was framed as some kind of burden on
- 7:06Speaker 1: women because they have to like make a choice, but
- 7:09Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of ridiculous because the men who
- 7:15Speaker 1: are putting in the work to make a profile on
- 7:18Speaker 1: these dating apps, most of them are just gonna get
- 7:20Speaker 1: ignored because women get so many matches that they just
- 7:23Speaker 1: exclude like ninety percent of men because there's too many
- 7:27Speaker 1: choices and so they want to narrow it down. And
- 7:30Speaker 1: because they get all of this attention on the app,
- 7:33Speaker 1: then they feel like they deserve this attention from men,
- 7:37Speaker 1: and so exkews their perception on what it is that
- 7:39Speaker 1: they what's actually possible, and so women end up, you know,
- 7:44Speaker 1: maybe never making a choice because they're too afraid, or
- 7:47Speaker 1: they end up you know, just going for like the
- 7:49Speaker 1: top men, like the absolute top men. Of course, most
- 7:53Speaker 1: of the time, the very top men are dating multiple women,
- 7:58Speaker 1: you know, probably because because they you know, probably have
- 8:01Speaker 1: the money to do it and they had the attention
- 8:03Speaker 1: and they're able to do that. So you know, you
- 8:05Speaker 1: have like the dating apps and not working is what
- 8:07Speaker 1: I'm saying. So dating apps are basically a failure, and
- 8:11Speaker 1: anyone who's still on them just hasn't figured that out yet.
- 8:13Speaker 1: But I think you should get off of dating apps.
- 8:15Speaker 1: And I think a lot of men are wising up
- 8:17Speaker 1: to it. So what's the alternative to dating apps. Well,
- 8:19Speaker 1: the alternative must be then to like meet people in
- 8:23Speaker 1: the real world, go to you know, events where there
- 8:27Speaker 1: are singles, like singles events and mixers is what they
- 8:30Speaker 1: call it, or other kinds of things like that, and
- 8:34Speaker 1: they're finding now that those aren't working either, and you get, like,
- 8:38Speaker 1: you know, very few men go to them and a
- 8:40Speaker 1: lot of women go. And this is something that we've
- 8:43Speaker 1: also talked about on the show. So it's only gotten
- 8:45Speaker 1: worse guys for women in particular. And what's really funny
- 8:50Speaker 1: about this to me is how inverted everything is. So
- 8:53Speaker 1: that's why I called it the dating market inverts because
- 8:58Speaker 1: it used to be that women were offered things like
- 9:02Speaker 1: ladies' nights at clubs and bars where they could go
- 9:06Speaker 1: without paying a cover charge. And then the purpose of
- 9:10Speaker 1: the ladies' night was so that there would be a
- 9:13Speaker 1: disproportionate number of women because there was no fee for
- 9:16Speaker 1: them to go, and men would pay the cover to
- 9:20Speaker 1: be there to meet women. Now men can't be paid
- 9:26Speaker 1: to go like you could, like, and women are paying
- 9:29Speaker 1: a lot more to meet men and there and the
- 9:32Speaker 1: men are still not showing up. So we've literally inverted
- 9:35Speaker 1: women's or girls' night and made it boys night, and
- 9:38Speaker 1: boys aren't showing up anyway. So I just think it's
- 9:43Speaker 1: it's it's sort of like speaks to the state of
- 9:45Speaker 1: things in our dating market, all right, So let's look
- 9:51Speaker 1: at a little bit more information about this phenomenon and
- 9:54Speaker 1: then we'll look at some replies in the short squeeze
- 9:56Speaker 1: post because there's a lot of like base takes in there.
- 9:59Speaker 1: So women, on the other hand, so many guys, okay,
- 10:06Speaker 1: don't bother with structured events. They prefer apps, bars, organic meetups,
- 10:10Speaker 1: or aren't as motivated to pay time and effort for them.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Fair enough, right, seems like a lot of work and
- 10:16Speaker 1: you're probably not going to get much out of it. Again,
- 10:20Speaker 1: and it's not just rejection, like it's the me too movement,
- 10:23Speaker 1: it's women choosing the bear. It's all this missonry that's like,
- 10:28Speaker 1: you know, just out in the open playing to see
- 10:31Speaker 1: and men are still being challenged to like essentially defy
- 10:35Speaker 1: that and still try. And I can't blame them if
- 10:38Speaker 1: they don't like why you know, there's like open hatred
- 10:42Speaker 1: against them. So anyway, women on the other hand, are
- 10:46Speaker 1: more willing to invest money and bring friends to these
- 10:48Speaker 1: paid events, hoping for better quality matches in a controlled
- 10:51Speaker 1: setting away from the chaos of apps. So, like I said,
- 10:54Speaker 1: for women, apps are chaos because they'll get hundreds of matches,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and you know they're they they either are too afraid
- 11:01Speaker 1: to make a choice because they have too many options,
- 11:04Speaker 1: or they would rather, like you know, basically like do
- 11:08Speaker 1: it another way, like meet a man face to face. Right.
- 11:13Speaker 1: The pricing flip women pay men is free is basically
- 11:17Speaker 1: a desperate hack to boost male turnout and balance the ratio,
- 11:21Speaker 1: but it doesn't fully work, often highlighting this imbalance. This
- 11:26Speaker 1: ties in a broader complaints about New York City dating.
- 11:28Speaker 1: But it's not just New York, Like I said, it's
- 11:30Speaker 1: dating basically in any high population urban area. I think
- 11:34Speaker 1: that in rural areas is probably less of a problem
- 11:37Speaker 1: because I think that there's just so few people, and
- 11:40Speaker 1: those people tend to be more like grounded and like, well,
- 11:43Speaker 1: I'm just gonna, like, you know, date someone who lives
- 11:45Speaker 1: close by instead of people who usually the women who
- 11:49Speaker 1: post dating profiles talking about how much they love to
- 11:52Speaker 1: travel and how much they like to you know, do
- 11:55Speaker 1: all of these things that are like kind of like
- 11:58Speaker 1: require a de income. Those people tend to live in cities,
- 12:03Speaker 1: and they tend to have this like kind of you know,
- 12:06Speaker 1: elitist idea about what the social life is like. So
- 12:11Speaker 1: they watch a lot of Kim Kardashian stuff, you know.
- 12:13Speaker 1: So anyway, this ties in the broader complaints about urban
- 12:18Speaker 1: or or you know, uh city dating high standards. This
- 12:22Speaker 1: this the high center still apply the viral six six
- 12:25Speaker 1: six meme post pandemic shifts people moving out or men
- 12:30Speaker 1: opting out of the game altogether, which is a thing.
- 12:33Speaker 1: A lot of men are MiG tauing it, you know,
- 12:36Speaker 1: big time. Right now, YouTube keeps deleting my comments no
- 12:40Speaker 1: matter of the comment today. That is weird, man, I'm
- 12:43Speaker 1: sorry about that. I don't know what to tell you.
- 12:45Speaker 1: We don't have any blocks or anything, so feel free
- 12:49Speaker 1: to chat on rumble. It's it's more based than Anyhow's
- 12:54Speaker 1: all right. It's not every event or universal, but it
- 12:58Speaker 1: is a real trend in the curated slash organized single
- 13:01Speaker 1: scene right now, especially around Valentine's Day or peak times.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Some events end up with barely any men. One story
- 13:07Speaker 1: mentioned organizers scrambling or even paying random guys to show up,
- 13:12Speaker 1: turning it into a frustrating experience for the women who
- 13:15Speaker 1: shelled out cash. So yeah, imagine you're a woman and
- 13:18Speaker 1: you're like, I'm gonna meet a man at this at
- 13:20Speaker 1: this you know, mixer and you had to pay one
- 13:24Speaker 1: hundred dollars to go, and there's like I think that
- 13:28Speaker 1: this one the one that was the example from the
- 13:30Speaker 1: New York Times article. I think there were like twenty
- 13:33Speaker 1: five women and like five men that ended up showing up,
- 13:36Speaker 1: So it wasn't like a big gathering of a lot
- 13:39Speaker 1: of people. But imagine you're one of the twenty five
- 13:41Speaker 1: women and there's like five dudes, and I wouldn't be
- 13:44Speaker 1: surprised if like none of those dudes walked away with
- 13:47Speaker 1: any phone numbers anyways. I wouldn't be surprised if even
- 13:50Speaker 1: of the five men that showed up who didn't pay anything,
- 13:53Speaker 1: they showed up for free. I wouldn't be surprised if
- 13:55Speaker 1: none of them got a phone number anyway, probably in
- 13:59Speaker 1: part because they didn't to show up. Because when you
- 14:01Speaker 1: if you show up to a thing for free and
- 14:03Speaker 1: the women that are there know you're there and you
- 14:05Speaker 1: didn't pay to get there, then it's gonna say something
- 14:08Speaker 1: about well to them, it's gonna say something to them
- 14:10Speaker 1: about you know, the value that you are as a man. Right.
- 14:14Speaker 1: It's wild, man, it's wild. So the bottom line is
- 14:18Speaker 1: it flips the old ladies' Night Model on its head
- 14:21Speaker 1: and underscores how tough the market feels for women seeking
- 14:23Speaker 1: committed partners in New York City these days, but also
- 14:26Speaker 1: other cities. Many online takes call it a victory for
- 14:29Speaker 1: men or proof of shifting dynamics, while others see it
- 14:32Speaker 1: as a sad commentary on modern romance. Well, I don't
- 14:38Speaker 1: know about it being a victory, but I did see
- 14:41Speaker 1: that Brett Cooper made a video about it, and she, oh,
- 14:47Speaker 1: I see, Oz Muerte. Welcome to the chat, oz Morete.
- 14:50Speaker 1: If you want to say anything, just request to speak
- 14:52Speaker 1: and I'll give you the floor. She Let me see
- 14:56Speaker 1: if I can find the video clip of the guy okay,
- 14:58Speaker 1: the Daily New York Times Apple podcast. So let me
- 15:01Speaker 1: see if I can find that she was lamenting this
- 15:05Speaker 1: and saying this is not a victory and that the
- 15:08Speaker 1: red pill bros were celebrating it. But I don't think
- 15:10Speaker 1: they were. I think they were vindicated. You know, guys
- 15:14Speaker 1: like fresh and fit and stuff. It's not good news,
- 15:17Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone would argue that it is.
- 15:19Speaker 1: But it is vindicating when you've been warning about this
- 15:23Speaker 1: and people have ignored you, you know. So the Daily
- 15:27Speaker 1: podcast Okay, let me see the daily podcast New York Times.
- 15:38Speaker 1: All right, La la la la la. The daily podcast
- 15:43Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts is the swipe era over. I found it. Okay,
- 15:51Speaker 1: so we're gonna look at this in a second.
- 15:53Speaker 2: This message comes from Capital One Commercial Bank.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Is there like a timeline I can jump to? Because
- 15:58Speaker 1: I kind of want to jump to the part there's
- 16:00Speaker 1: no timeline in this. What No, I'm not gonna do it.
- 16:06Speaker 1: It's okay, I can find I can just play it
- 16:08Speaker 1: off of Brett Cooper's video. So we'll just listen to
- 16:12Speaker 1: this part.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Event the following night, I go.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Back a little bit more about dating events.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
- 16:18Speaker 3: This is what sparked that tweet.
- 16:20Speaker 2: I went to an event the following night, and it
- 16:23Speaker 2: could not have been more different from the first event.
- 16:26Speaker 1: What was it?
- 16:27Speaker 2: Yeah, so I heard about this second event through a
- 16:29Speaker 2: friend and it was a sort of wine mixer.
- 16:33Speaker 1: I think what really got me.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Interested in this particular event was the fact that tickets
- 16:37Speaker 2: for women were one hundred dollars and tickets for men
- 16:41Speaker 2: were free.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think my soul just left my body.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Is there an echo? I'm sorry, guys, you gotta get
- 16:47Speaker 1: let me see if you are you guys getting an
- 16:48Speaker 1: echo from this? Uh, I apologize if that's happening.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Why was it so much more for women than for men?
- 16:56Speaker 2: I mean, I think the truth is that there are
- 17:00Speaker 2: a lot more women out there interested in showing up
- 17:02Speaker 2: for these dating events, and it's not as easy to
- 17:05Speaker 2: get men.
- 17:06Speaker 1: To show up.
- 17:06Speaker 3: And VERI lies the issue that now the entire internet
- 17:09Speaker 3: is debating. So for a little all.
- 17:11Speaker 1: Right, so yeah, so the internet's debating it, but it's
- 17:14Speaker 1: not really a debate so much as this is the
- 17:16Speaker 1: reality that women have created. Okay, no echo sounds fine, Okay,
- 17:23Speaker 1: and let's look at some of the comments to affirm this. Now,
- 17:27Speaker 1: you know, Brett wasn't happy about this, but I think
- 17:29Speaker 1: that it it just speaks to how ignorant I don't
- 17:36Speaker 1: know if it's willing ignorance or not people are about
- 17:40Speaker 1: the problem and their unwillingness to talk to people like
- 17:44Speaker 1: Myron Gains or Pearl, who they had to comment on,
- 17:47Speaker 1: because Pearl had some things to say, your echo, but
- 17:50Speaker 1: your camera's looking as you're greedy to get Hey, I
- 17:51Speaker 1: can't do anything about that. I'm sorry, guys. So anyway,
- 17:56Speaker 1: miss injury examples, which is a really good account If
- 17:59Speaker 1: you guys are on X's a lot of great accounts
- 18:01Speaker 1: here you should follow. Missing example says oddly, way back
- 18:05Speaker 1: when I did some work for a matchmaker, it was
- 18:07Speaker 1: the same situation. Her main client was women, and she
- 18:10Speaker 1: struggled to get men to watch with them. So, yeah,
- 18:14Speaker 1: Ali feels says, this is because men are retarded and
- 18:17Speaker 1: don't go to school or get jobs. There are still
- 18:20Speaker 1: plenty of retarded men out there if you get desperate enough.
- 18:23Speaker 1: So is this woman is the problem? She's like demonstrating
- 18:26Speaker 1: the problem. See, and of course she doesn't have any shame.
- 18:30Speaker 1: I'm sure that she's a very beautiful lady. Let's find
- 18:34Speaker 1: out here in a second. I don't don't want to
- 18:36Speaker 1: split the tabs here, hold on, Ali feels, Yeah, so,
- 18:42Speaker 1: and of course she just goes after the manisphere and endlessly.
- 18:46Speaker 1: The subtext of almost all manisphere discourses that men don't
- 18:49Speaker 1: have as much to offer in relationships now that we
- 18:51Speaker 1: can feed ourselves, and they'd rather overthrow society and bring
- 18:55Speaker 1: us back to eighteen forty than learn to read, or
- 18:57Speaker 1: learn to f or have interesting conversations. Awesome, Yeah, these
- 19:03Speaker 1: are people that we can totally have a conversation with
- 19:07Speaker 1: Echo fixed itself nicely, so there was there was Echo. Okay,
- 19:10Speaker 1: I just like lowered the my my my speaker volume
- 19:15Speaker 1: a little bit, so Ali feels basically demonstrates the reason
- 19:18Speaker 1: why men are not involved getting You know, they're checking out.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Cobra says, because they all look more like this, and
- 19:24Speaker 1: you have women with pussy hats and equality and and
- 19:28Speaker 1: LGBT flags probably another AI image I'm guessing, but it's
- 19:33Speaker 1: still pretty funny. Dad says, what are you guys scared
- 19:36Speaker 1: of go up to a pretty girl and just talk
- 19:38Speaker 1: to her, load her up with compliments and flattery. They
- 19:40Speaker 1: love that? Yeah, sure, dad, loll dude, that's not the issue.
- 19:45Speaker 1: The issues that you are not getting. What's in the pick?
- 19:47Speaker 1: You're getting this? Do you live in this world? Are
- 19:52Speaker 1: you fucking out of your mind? Sure if you want
- 19:55Speaker 1: a reputation as a sex pass and a creep lol.
- 19:58Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean these guys understan and that this
- 20:01Speaker 1: is like the natural consequence of women's behavior towards men,
- 20:05Speaker 1: And I mean that's just what it is. Hello inq
- 20:08Speaker 1: cel osmore Tay, you guys can talk if you want to.
- 20:10Speaker 1: I see a request here. Oh it's INQ sell Okay, welcome,
- 20:18Speaker 1: can you talk?
- 20:21Speaker 3: Hello?
- 20:22Speaker 1: Yes, hello, what's up?
- 20:26Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, no, it's just calling in comment. I guess
- 20:30Speaker 3: nobody's not exactly cue out here for that, but yeah,
- 20:36Speaker 3: you're getting another yet another spot of discourse around the
- 20:41Speaker 3: thing that's typically Chris schizophrenic just on the topic. You know,
- 20:49Speaker 3: I cannot imagine going to something like this, Like in
- 20:52Speaker 3: my mind, this is always going to be just a
- 20:56Speaker 3: physical version of the meat gallery of the dating app
- 20:58Speaker 3: meat gallery. I'm going to be there to be judged
- 21:03Speaker 3: by a panel of women. Right, It's not like they're
- 21:08Speaker 3: going to hook up or not not necessarily hook up,
- 21:12Speaker 3: just give a chance to date them a guy that
- 21:18Speaker 3: it's like above twenty percent body fat. Right, that's not
- 21:21Speaker 3: going to happen, Like, it's always going to be a
- 21:23Speaker 3: disappointment because of the perception, because of the perception of
- 21:28Speaker 3: what is possible, which is one of those old which
- 21:31Speaker 3: is one of those old sort of in cel people
- 21:37Speaker 3: or wherein it was basically over the moment camera was
- 21:40Speaker 3: invented because that showed women what's possible, like what the
- 21:46Speaker 3: top percentile of men look like, and ever since then,
- 21:54Speaker 3: like women will will not settle, like right, right, like
- 21:57Speaker 3: settling will get less and less owing to developments of
- 22:02Speaker 3: technology and globalization and mass communication and distance transport technology,
- 22:10Speaker 3: the incentive and or willingness to quote unquote settle the
- 22:17Speaker 3: mission is ever more. Anytime a woman basically has the
- 22:23Speaker 3: option the field of options expanded to her or made
- 22:27Speaker 3: aware rather made aware of the field of options, that
- 22:30Speaker 3: is possible. So when someone like Brad Pig exists, and
- 22:33Speaker 3: a woman knows that someone like Brad Pitt exists, me
- 22:36Speaker 3: walking into that into there without being like fifteen percent
- 22:40Speaker 3: body fat and jacked, even that probably wouldn't save me
- 22:44Speaker 3: because my face, like you know, my face is pretty
- 22:46Speaker 3: like Norman Tyre, like fair like five out of ten
- 22:49Speaker 3: out of ten. I'm not horribly deformed or anything like that.
- 22:53Speaker 3: But even then, even if I were to put in
- 22:58Speaker 3: like the gym workout route, which by the way, I
- 23:02Speaker 3: broke my arm doing that. So that's that's great. It's
- 23:05Speaker 3: fucking fascinating that that ticket to a ticket to entry
- 23:10Speaker 3: because the you know, the the topic at hand is
- 23:13Speaker 3: that men going for free men's men's tickets to this
- 23:16Speaker 3: are free. Well, it's not fucking free, because to have
- 23:20Speaker 3: any kind of chance at all, you have to put
- 23:22Speaker 3: in like two hours, two years of going to a
- 23:25Speaker 3: gym to get somewhere between fifteen and twenty percent bodyfact,
- 23:31Speaker 3: which is which is hardcore workout to even have a chance,
- 23:34Speaker 3: and that you're mostly fucked right, So so the entry
- 23:37Speaker 3: isn't fucking free whatsoever, right, but nobody, nobody is Obviously
- 23:43Speaker 3: the discourse team is not going to search that one.
- 23:47Speaker 3: But even then there is this aura of demeaning, dehumanizing
- 23:55Speaker 3: sort of is undignified, Like they told me market style
- 24:01Speaker 3: of matchmaking, it's just physical version of dating apps, Like what,
- 24:06Speaker 3: what's why would I go to this in the first place?
- 24:09Speaker 3: The fact that I have literally no chance in there,
- 24:12Speaker 3: and eighty percent of men have literally no chance in there,
- 24:14Speaker 3: ohing to the phenomenon I just described with the women,
- 24:20Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, you cann't pay men to go there,
- 24:22Speaker 3: like the fuck going free. You wouldn't get men in
- 24:25Speaker 3: there if you paid them.
- 24:27Speaker 1: No, they don't. They don't get men in there, and
- 24:29Speaker 1: they and they offer to pay them. They one one
- 24:32Speaker 1: event tried to get men off the street to just
- 24:34Speaker 1: go and they weren't going. So I'm saying that men
- 24:38Speaker 1: are reacting that they're responding accordingly to the environment as
- 24:43Speaker 1: it is so.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Exactly and you know, the discourse team and that that
- 24:52Speaker 3: so so that's the like material that the thing on
- 24:54Speaker 3: the ground right that that's the reality. You know, Are
- 24:58Speaker 3: you going to fix any of this? Well, the question
- 25:01Speaker 3: is what are you fixing?
- 25:02Speaker 1: Are you? Like? What? What?
- 25:03Speaker 3: What are you hoping to achieve with this? Uh?
- 25:06Speaker 1: Like?
- 25:06Speaker 3: Is there a profit incentive?
- 25:08Speaker 1: Like what? What?
- 25:08Speaker 3: What does this venue? How does this venue come about?
- 25:11Speaker 3: Is this like a sort of civic city ran engagement
- 25:16Speaker 3: that sort of tries to do like a public good
- 25:19Speaker 3: type of service or is it like a private profit
- 25:22Speaker 3: seeking enterprise or what's going on here?
- 25:24Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, uh, but these are not
- 25:28Speaker 1: city funded things. These are these are private endeavors by
- 25:33Speaker 1: you know, people who I guess like to organize event
- 25:35Speaker 1: organizer types and they're hoping to uh probably like sell
- 25:41Speaker 1: you know something like at whatever the bar or whatever
- 25:45Speaker 1: venue they were at. But yeah, I mean it's sort
- 25:49Speaker 1: of I guess the the the the relevant part of
- 25:52Speaker 1: it is that what we're talking about is the shift itself.
- 25:56Speaker 1: And the question is, first of all, I don't think
- 26:00Speaker 1: it's good news per se, but I think some people
- 26:03Speaker 1: are seeing like the way that some of the red
- 26:06Speaker 1: pill guys are reacting to this. It's as though they're
- 26:09Speaker 1: celebrating it, but they're not. This is a problem that
- 26:12Speaker 1: has come out of I think, the sexual revolution, and
- 26:18Speaker 1: we're just like getting the downstream effects of that.
- 26:22Speaker 3: So yeah, the fifth like, okay, okay, there's there's like
- 26:27Speaker 3: less men. I don't think there was too many men
- 26:30Speaker 3: in these in the first place.
- 26:31Speaker 1: No, it wasn't like, well, the thing is the venues
- 26:33Speaker 1: are were made with women in mind, not with men
- 26:36Speaker 1: in mind.
- 26:37Speaker 3: These events, right, if I feel like wine taning, like okay,
- 26:42Speaker 3: wine taintsting.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Like what kind of that?
- 26:45Speaker 3: That's not exactly a male, at myle attractive sort of
- 26:51Speaker 3: enterprise that you're trying to So so there's a question
- 26:53Speaker 3: of you know, okay, in this particular example, okay, is
- 26:57Speaker 3: this actually trying to be something like some kind of
- 27:02Speaker 3: match making function or if it's really just a kind
- 27:04Speaker 3: of like vine tased thing, society vindic thing, and they
- 27:08Speaker 3: just want to have some men in there. Like maybe
- 27:11Speaker 3: even the dating or or hooking apart isn't even remotely
- 27:16Speaker 3: the point. The point is had just to have a
- 27:18Speaker 3: somewhat balanced, you know, society in there. Maybe maybe that's
- 27:23Speaker 3: the whole point of this particular event, but the specifically
- 27:28Speaker 3: like like institution what you might call it, the events
- 27:33Speaker 3: specifically speed dating events like explicitly created for the purpose
- 27:40Speaker 3: of of of trying to help people match might have
- 27:43Speaker 3: or trying trying to get people together. Uhh, when you're
- 27:48Speaker 3: talking about okay, let me talk about shift in the
- 27:52Speaker 3: sense of, Okay, there there's less men in there, what's
- 27:56Speaker 3: the outdoor? There's the ultimate outcome? Like, does that mean
- 28:00Speaker 3: that more men? That's that more and more relationships are created. No,
- 28:05Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if if if if it's a ten
- 28:08Speaker 3: to one women or ten to one men, that the
- 28:10Speaker 3: woman's will will still proportionally Like like you know, you're
- 28:15Speaker 3: not going to get the brad Pitt in there. Okay,
- 28:18Speaker 3: you're not going to get the five percent Like what
- 28:22Speaker 3: the fuck is going to a five percent chat? Going
- 28:24Speaker 3: to go to speed dating? Well, well, he wouldn't be
- 28:26Speaker 3: called dead there, Like what's his incentive to go there?
- 28:30Speaker 3: He can go to whatever club and pick up you
- 28:34Speaker 3: don't go anywhere. Yeah, So so the guy that would
- 28:38Speaker 3: be picked that would have a reasonable chance it's never
- 28:42Speaker 3: going to go there. So when when when they say
- 28:46Speaker 3: shift it's maybe it's like some arbitrary shift in in
- 28:50Speaker 3: a proportion in general proportion, but when specifically talking about
- 28:56Speaker 3: dating events, the relevant outcomes i e. Getting people together
- 29:01Speaker 3: stayed exactly the same, which is zero. There was no
- 29:04Speaker 3: shift there, I guarantee you. So so that's the reality.
- 29:08Speaker 3: And when the discourse, the schizophrenic discourse, which increasingly i'm
- 29:15Speaker 3: it's like people are just talking to like hyper isolated,
- 29:22Speaker 3: like creating hyper real bubbles in their heads with cardboard
- 29:28Speaker 3: cutouts of people, and that's the discourse, Like the influencers
- 29:33Speaker 3: TM talking to cardboard cutouts they put up and it's like, oh,
- 29:38Speaker 3: the manosphere, the manis is charging over the hills and
- 29:42Speaker 3: it's like a fucking paper army or something. It's like
- 29:45Speaker 3: a paper theater props.
- 29:48Speaker 1: It's bizarre.
- 29:49Speaker 3: It's just trenic. It's like these people, it's like mental
- 29:53Speaker 3: illness inducing. The discourse TM part about it around this,
- 29:58Speaker 3: and it's like, oh oh, and here's token for it
- 30:00Speaker 3: being being being sad and stuff because the manosphere, the
- 30:06Speaker 3: manosphere that's in there in her head was mean or something.
- 30:12Speaker 3: It's like you people, you people are completely schizophrenic. Like
- 30:15Speaker 3: there's no discourse. There's just your mental illness, you know,
- 30:24Speaker 3: content creation for the sake of content creation. Ultimately, that
- 30:29Speaker 3: that's the sort of like the base driver. Okay, I've
- 30:31Speaker 3: known nothing to talk about. Let's just create this this
- 30:34Speaker 3: little fucking potampion village and play house in it, and
- 30:37Speaker 3: and we call it content and comment like subscribe. Okay, great, fine,
- 30:41Speaker 3: But the downside of this is that it's just creates
- 30:47Speaker 3: the reality bubbles and and you jump between them as
- 30:51Speaker 3: as you're patronizing the different influencers, and the reality doesn't
- 30:57Speaker 3: even enter the equation at any point. It's just you know,
- 31:01Speaker 3: cortisol spiking exercises all day, every day, and okay, nothing
- 31:08Speaker 3: was like that is not even to say that, Okay,
- 31:12Speaker 3: if you had the correct perception, if you had the
- 31:14Speaker 3: correct talking points, if you if you if you use
- 31:17Speaker 3: the free MicroPlace ideas to arrive at the truth or something,
- 31:22Speaker 3: uh not, that nothing would be resolved there anyway, because
- 31:27Speaker 3: the structural forces are completely like you cannot there's you
- 31:31Speaker 3: kind of make dent in them. Uh there's just there
- 31:35Speaker 3: are so arrayed so heavily towards this this developing and deafening,
- 31:42Speaker 3: these this these dysfunctions that even if you okay, if
- 31:46Speaker 3: you've had all the right answers and all the right questions,
- 31:50Speaker 3: you still would be powerless, and it will be only
- 31:52Speaker 3: more depressing to you ultimately, will you You will just
- 31:56Speaker 3: be the Cassandra, you know, being shouting into the void.
- 32:02Speaker 3: But like the Brett Cooper example, which is is that
- 32:06Speaker 3: like the the void that got fired from Ben Shapiro
- 32:08Speaker 3: because oh he's getting two base guys, we cannot we
- 32:13Speaker 3: cannot contain.
- 32:16Speaker 1: I don't know if she got fired. I think I
- 32:19Speaker 1: think she well, no, I think she grew out of
- 32:22Speaker 1: that that like zoomer college girl persona that she was playing,
- 32:28Speaker 1: and I think that I don't think that there was
- 32:30Speaker 1: like a fallout or anything like that. I think that
- 32:33Speaker 1: she just, like you know, the The Daily Wire had
- 32:35Speaker 1: a brand and it was like you know, twenty somethingter
- 32:39Speaker 1: college girl in her bedroom with like you know, doing
- 32:43Speaker 1: doing videos about social media. And then Brett Cooper got
- 32:46Speaker 1: married and got pregnant and basically grew out of it
- 32:49Speaker 1: and they were like, well, this isn't our brand anymore,
- 32:52Speaker 1: but yes, that's the girl, and she still kind of
- 32:57Speaker 1: basically just I don't really watch her much because I
- 33:00Speaker 1: don't find I don't know the content is not really
- 33:03Speaker 1: for me. But when I was looking into this New
- 33:06Speaker 1: York Times podcast thing that was going viral, I was
- 33:09Speaker 1: just looking to see, like what, you know, get information
- 33:12Speaker 1: about it. And one of the things I discovered was
- 33:14Speaker 1: that she made a video about it. So I watched
- 33:16Speaker 1: her video about it because she does have uh one
- 33:21Speaker 1: point seven million subscribers, and I figure she's reaching people,
- 33:25Speaker 1: and I wanted to get her take. And it's the
- 33:29Speaker 1: there's nothing of substance there is.
- 33:33Speaker 3: Huh is it recharted for you? Didn't?
- 33:36Speaker 1: Actually you didn't.
- 33:37Speaker 3: I interrupted you before you played the rest of the video.
- 33:39Speaker 3: But I don't know what she actually says about it.
- 33:41Speaker 3: I'm just guessing it's it's it's some uh, you know,
- 33:45Speaker 3: college fainting exercise once again.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Well, I mean she's not like, no, she Actually the
- 33:50Speaker 1: funny thing is is is this is where it's getting
- 33:52Speaker 1: to now when it comes to like the sort of
- 33:54Speaker 1: you know, and when I say the red pill stuff,
- 33:57Speaker 1: I'm just talking about anyone who really understands the nature
- 34:01Speaker 1: of women. So I'm not supposiically talking about you know,
- 34:06Speaker 1: MiG Tow's or MRAs. But just like anyone who understands
- 34:10Speaker 1: the you know, what's going on with women today, with
- 34:13Speaker 1: modern women in particular, And I think that where Brett
- 34:17Speaker 1: Cooper was landing because I didn't finish the video, but
- 34:19Speaker 1: I got close to the end of it. I didn't
- 34:20Speaker 1: watch it on this stream. I was listening to it
- 34:22Speaker 1: before I was getting the show set up, and I think,
- 34:25Speaker 1: what I'm noticing, and this isn't just happening with her,
- 34:27Speaker 1: It's happening with a lot of commentators that are they're
- 34:32Speaker 1: basically being forced to confront this reality, the reality that
- 34:36Speaker 1: is modern women right now, and they're not doing well.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Like they're not doing well because they either land on
- 34:43Speaker 1: the well you just got to suck it up and
- 34:45Speaker 1: try harder guys bandwagon, which no one is going for,
- 34:49Speaker 1: like that's basically like a done deal, or they're trying
- 34:54Speaker 1: to find the nuance but they're not really being like
- 34:57Speaker 1: upfront with it, or in Brett Cooper's case, he actually
- 35:00Speaker 1: says she concedes basically every single red pill talking point.
- 35:05Speaker 1: She says, yeah, there's some truth to that, and then
- 35:08Speaker 1: she goes but, you know, and then goes into this
- 35:12Speaker 1: butt you know, it's a generalization, but you know whatever,
- 35:15Speaker 1: like she's not able to just confront this reality but
- 35:20Speaker 1: I will give her credit for at least not pretending
- 35:23Speaker 1: like that doesn't exist. And that's something. Because I saw
- 35:28Speaker 1: another video. I get so angry about this stuff. But
- 35:31Speaker 1: do you know who Scott Galloway is in Cusel.
- 35:36Speaker 3: That I'm probably confusing him with the British.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not British.
- 35:44Speaker 3: George Galloway, isn't it? Oh?
- 35:45Speaker 1: I don't know who George. I've heard the name, but no, Okay, Well,
- 35:50Speaker 1: Scott Scott Galloway is like this kind of like center
- 35:54Speaker 1: left guy who talks about men in masculinity a lot,
- 35:58Speaker 1: but he's basically a male feminist that a male feminist
- 36:01Speaker 1: light kind of guy that thinks that there's a way
- 36:05Speaker 1: for women that still have their cake and either too
- 36:08Speaker 1: and men still to get back on the plantation but
- 36:11Speaker 1: not feel as bad about it. So he doesn't actually
- 36:13Speaker 1: want to solve any problems. He just wants to, like
- 36:16Speaker 1: you know, to alter the perceptions with his words. And
- 36:20Speaker 1: it really pisses me off because he obviously knows the problems.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Like he's list he lists all of the data you
- 36:26Speaker 1: know about suicide, about loneliness, about despair, about all of
- 36:31Speaker 1: this other stuff. But then he like throws it at
- 36:34Speaker 1: things that are not women everything, but that it's like, oh,
- 36:37Speaker 1: it's the economy, it's the way we're being the government's
- 36:39Speaker 1: running us right now. It's you know, because he's got TDS.
- 36:43Speaker 1: It's whatever, it's anything else, except because like look in
- 36:47Speaker 1: any in any kind of world, like we were living
- 36:50Speaker 1: in a third world, there are people that could form
- 36:53Speaker 1: families and survive, you know, in that condition. So it's
- 36:57Speaker 1: got nothing to do with the way our countries run.
- 36:59Speaker 1: People in the third world right now are are married
- 37:03Speaker 1: with kids, like they're getting it done. Yeah, they don't
- 37:06Speaker 1: have all of our comforts and all of our you know,
- 37:10Speaker 1: let's say all of our you know, like I don't
- 37:13Speaker 1: know what you call it. But just like they don't
- 37:15Speaker 1: live the way we do, but they live right, they
- 37:17Speaker 1: manage it. So like Scott Galloway is an example of
- 37:21Speaker 1: somebody who just won't face reality and he just wants
- 37:24Speaker 1: to like just put put men back on the plantation.
- 37:27Speaker 1: At least Brett Cooper so far has acknowledged this reality,
- 37:32Speaker 1: and she's said, I can't deny this is happening. So
- 37:36Speaker 1: she just won't get to the place where she's willing
- 37:39Speaker 1: to concede that the Red pill is right about women,
- 37:43Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter if she can sees or not.
- 37:45Speaker 1: I know it's just happening, But I do think that
- 37:48Speaker 1: it's it's something that matters at least in terms of
- 37:52Speaker 1: like getting the broader population to like look at this
- 37:58Speaker 1: and accept this as reality. And I think that the
- 38:00Speaker 1: fact that this went really viral. I don't know how
- 38:02Speaker 1: many views this post got, yeah, thirteen point one million views,
- 38:07Speaker 1: So it's getting it's got traction. People know it's happening,
- 38:12Speaker 1: and I think they're talking about it, even if it
- 38:14Speaker 1: is a small example like there was. I think there was,
- 38:18Speaker 1: like like I said, at this one meet, there was
- 38:20Speaker 1: about twenty people and five of them were men and
- 38:23Speaker 1: fifteen were women. But it is it is indicative of
- 38:27Speaker 1: a broader pattern that's been happening everywhere, but mostly in
- 38:31Speaker 1: like high population cities, not necessarily in like rural areas
- 38:38Speaker 1: and stuff. So Gabriel says, go George Galloway is a
- 38:43Speaker 1: Scottish scumbag politician. Oh okay, okay, yeah, I was talking
- 38:48Speaker 1: about Scott Galloway. I wouldn't call him a scumbag, but
- 38:51Speaker 1: I just think he kind of makes me mad because
- 38:53Speaker 1: he knows what's wrong, and he doesn't want to. He doesn't.
- 38:58Speaker 1: It's just when people are in denial about eating crow.
- 39:02Speaker 1: That's what obsessed me, you know, because I see it
- 39:04Speaker 1: a lot. Okay, so let's look at some of the
- 39:07Speaker 1: other replies. I got about twenty minutes and then I
- 39:11Speaker 1: got to end the show. So if anybody else wants
- 39:13Speaker 1: to say anything, go ahead and request to speak. Thank
- 39:15Speaker 1: you and Kusel for your thoughts. All right, So humble
- 39:20Speaker 1: student says, there isn't enough money in the world to
- 39:23Speaker 1: get me to listen to some retarded liberal girl from
- 39:25Speaker 1: New York talk for an hour. She give me the
- 39:27Speaker 1: most beautiful woman to ever live, and the second she
- 39:29Speaker 1: opened her mouth she might as well have been big
- 39:31Speaker 1: Mike Obama. Let's see what else. Some people are saying
- 39:37Speaker 1: that a lot of people have hung up on the
- 39:39Speaker 1: AI image. It's like, guys, that's not really the point.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Just talk about the conversation, talk about the topic you're
- 39:47Speaker 1: let me see, young men are afraid to talk to women. Yes,
- 39:50Speaker 1: women chose the bear. Somebody put a meme it's like
- 39:54Speaker 1: a essentially a one minute long video of a dragon
- 39:57Speaker 1: burning a group of people, and the dragon is feminism,
- 40:00Speaker 1: and people are civilization. Angela Bell Camino says, I'm in
- 40:07Speaker 1: New York City nine and I went once. All the
- 40:10Speaker 1: men were under six feet, made less than six figures
- 40:12Speaker 1: and rented with roommates. I do not recommend. Well, there
- 40:15Speaker 1: you go. You are the problem.
- 40:17Speaker 3: I said, Yeah, I know, what do you expect to
- 40:20Speaker 3: meet there? Do you expect to meet their like bread clones?
- 40:26Speaker 1: She this woman is a podcaster, I think so she
- 40:31Speaker 1: probably does like I think if you're if you're like
- 40:33Speaker 1: a yeah, content creator, bold seat podcast, so she probably
- 40:39Speaker 1: already has like a really inflated sense.
- 40:44Speaker 3: That's not even a woman. This is in New York
- 40:46Speaker 3: City and Jesus Christ.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Yeah, well she lives in Orlando. So or at least
- 40:52Speaker 1: that's what it says here. Maybe I'll click maybe it's
- 40:54Speaker 1: in India or something. Nope, okay, sometimes you gotta click
- 40:58Speaker 1: on the on the thing to find out where they're
- 41:00Speaker 1: actually at. So okay. Market pricing reveals this is a
- 41:07Speaker 1: citadel app. Market pricing reveals gender demand. This is the
- 41:10Speaker 1: real world.
- 41:11Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an AI posty Oh.
- 41:13Speaker 1: The citadel app is an AI almost entirely. Yes.
- 41:17Speaker 3: In finance, in finance interest circles on Twitter, it's completely
- 41:23Speaker 3: flooded by like AI bots like replying just resetting the
- 41:28Speaker 3: original post and the shilling exercise is the name of
- 41:32Speaker 3: the account or something like that. Right, it's completely like,
- 41:35Speaker 3: it's horrible.
- 41:37Speaker 1: Jeff Goodsell says, who's got an MBA? I guess? Says,
- 41:42Speaker 1: surely it's not because women are narcissists. Now six is
- 41:45Speaker 1: at best looking for a man who resembles Chris Hemsworth
- 41:48Speaker 1: with a net worth of one million dollars? Yeah? Yes,
- 41:54Speaker 1: are people mad? He got twelve replies this is not
- 41:58Speaker 1: even what happened, though, Shut up? Did that's red pill content?
- 42:04Speaker 1: Go outside and touch some grass. No, he's not wrong.
- 42:07Speaker 1: See people don't want to They want to deny this. What.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you did a red pill? I'm cast a
- 42:14Speaker 3: spill on you.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Rich Setema says the men they're looking for
- 42:22Speaker 1: aren't interested in women like them anymore. Remember the demographic
- 42:26Speaker 1: paying one hundred dollars to get into these events just
- 42:28Speaker 1: elected Mamdani. Yes they did in New York City. Let's see.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Uh.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Ben Schiffman says, everyone's dunking on the AI art. But
- 42:40Speaker 1: this one dollars thing was actually in the New York
- 42:43Speaker 1: Times on the daily and it was not the weirdest
- 42:46Speaker 1: part of the story. The weirdest part was the singles
- 42:48Speaker 1: events where people literally wrestle strangers romantically. Oh that's so desperate, dudes.
- 42:56Speaker 3: Sounds like a liability waiting to.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Be Yeah, no, no, no, I would I would absolutely
- 43:04Speaker 1: not do that, absolutely not. Let's see. Uh. Mike says
- 43:12Speaker 1: they did it to themselves. Dating apps destroyed dating Every
- 43:15Speaker 1: girl thinks she deserves a six foot three, good looking
- 43:17Speaker 1: dude who makes three hundred k men have just given
- 43:20Speaker 1: up yep. Murray Hill Guy says any female who attended
- 43:24Speaker 1: this event was below a five out of ten guaranteed.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Probably that's another thing too.
- 43:31Speaker 3: The difference is that the sub five woman would still
- 43:35Speaker 3: have a.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Chance, Yes she would, There would definitely be a look.
- 43:38Speaker 1: A sub three woman would have a chance, but only
- 43:44Speaker 1: the But the problem is, though, is that that same
- 43:48Speaker 1: sub five woman would think she deserves something like that
- 43:52Speaker 1: is absolutely out of her range, like way out of
- 43:54Speaker 1: her league. And that's the problem. ZARANX gave us a
- 43:58Speaker 1: rumble rant thank you Zarin for five dollars, and he
- 44:01Speaker 1: says this has been going on for at least the
- 44:03Speaker 1: last five years. China, South Korea, Japan, US et cetera.
- 44:07Speaker 1: Plenty of videos from women talking about lack of men.
- 44:10Speaker 1: They don't care to understand why it is the way
- 44:13Speaker 1: it is. But there isn't a lack of men. They're everywhere,
- 44:17Speaker 1: but most of them are invisible to these women.
- 44:19Speaker 3: So okay, there is There is a theory or not
- 44:24Speaker 3: really a theory, but talking point that feminists come out
- 44:29Speaker 3: with regarding this. It comes up fairly often that oh,
- 44:36Speaker 3: in the past, women were dependent on men. That the
- 44:40Speaker 3: implication being that the lack of technology and the lack
- 44:45Speaker 3: of moral sophistication in it that in times where liberal
- 44:52Speaker 3: rights revolution hasn't happened yet, right, So that's what I
- 44:56Speaker 3: mean in moral sophistication, Like in those times, men's value
- 45:02Speaker 3: was effectively subsidized and women were forced to sort of
- 45:08Speaker 3: pair bond with men. And now in the in the enlightened, enlightened,
- 45:14Speaker 3: sunny uplands we found ourselves in with all the rights
- 45:18Speaker 3: and all the acs and and everything else that this
- 45:24Speaker 3: now we now can see a true like re market
- 45:31Speaker 3: in terms of we're without subsidies, without subsidizing male value,
- 45:36Speaker 3: just you know, men's standing presenting the value, the true
- 45:41Speaker 3: value on their own, without interference from from like outside, right,
- 45:47Speaker 3: and thenother fact of course it is men women don't
- 45:51Speaker 3: want to pair bond, so maybe uh, it's it's it's
- 45:55Speaker 3: it's ironic because it's like from from the feminist perspective,
- 45:58Speaker 3: it's like this weird adherence to almost anarcho capitalism that
- 46:03Speaker 3: is completely misapplied to like marketization of social relations, which
- 46:10Speaker 3: doesn't belong there at all. But nevertheless they somehow found
- 46:13Speaker 3: themselves in on the side of like Austrian school economics ironically,
- 46:19Speaker 3: the feminism being ideologically where it is. And ultimately it
- 46:25Speaker 3: seems that, however, that that men and women and their
- 46:32Speaker 3: paymonic capabilities and incentives and whatever else evolved around this
- 46:39Speaker 3: quote unquote subsidy, which is really just asymmetric. Uh. Sexual,
- 46:46Speaker 3: it's basically just sexual dimorphism. Right, Men men and have
- 46:50Speaker 3: the utility and stuff like that. When you when you
- 46:52Speaker 3: socialize this utility, when you somehow take this utility away,
- 46:55Speaker 3: which is presently mostly just don't don't done by socializing
- 46:59Speaker 3: it oh way to the state. Yeah, then then sort
- 47:02Speaker 3: of like men lose their side of the equation that
- 47:04Speaker 3: they could have all losed the subsidy, but what it is,
- 47:07Speaker 3: they just lose their lose their ability to project value, right,
- 47:14Speaker 3: and it will end up having to be like, if
- 47:16Speaker 3: there is any way to fix this at all, it
- 47:19Speaker 3: is going to involve like having women be materially dependent
- 47:25Speaker 3: on men, which means like straight up banning women from working.
- 47:30Speaker 3: It's going to have to come to that because you cannot.
- 47:35Speaker 3: Maybe you have maybe the modern liberal society had unlocked
- 47:42Speaker 3: the final technology in the moral textree with civil rights
- 47:46Speaker 3: and everything, and we now get to enjoy the fruits
- 47:49Speaker 3: of that. The evolution didn't sort of didn't catch up
- 47:53Speaker 3: to that, right, Evolution didn't somehow turn us into nineteen
- 48:00Speaker 3: sixty five. Evolution hasn't turned us into unisex sort of
- 48:06Speaker 3: go backs from South Park. So the solution is radical.
- 48:12Speaker 3: The solution is reversal of all that. But again, in
- 48:17Speaker 3: a democratic system, as it sends now, there's exactly zero
- 48:20Speaker 3: chance of that. That is structurally impossible to enact anything
- 48:25Speaker 3: like that, like a sort of like banning women from working,
- 48:30Speaker 3: like intentionally as a matter of policy, establishing material dependence
- 48:37Speaker 3: of women as a class on men as a class.
- 48:41Speaker 3: That's not going to happen in democracy, structurally impossibility. So yeah,
- 48:47Speaker 3: that's just matching mm hmm, well, you.
- 48:49Speaker 1: Know, Allison just sent me a message because she doesn't
- 48:52Speaker 1: want to come on the show herself, but she wants
- 48:54Speaker 1: to tell me what to say where she says, women
- 48:57Speaker 1: used to bring dowry to a relationship, and they also
- 48:59Speaker 1: prove materially as well. Yeah, I mean with they used
- 49:03Speaker 1: to basically there were things expected of them that we
- 49:06Speaker 1: just don't expected them anymore, and that is I think
- 49:10Speaker 1: that's kind of killing them too, because it takes away
- 49:12Speaker 1: their own They have no purpose. That's why they're just
- 49:14Speaker 1: being They just see being free as an end of
- 49:18Speaker 1: you know, in and of itself, and it's not really
- 49:20Speaker 1: doing them any favors that yeah, it's driving them insane. Yes, yes, yes,
- 49:25Speaker 1: they're getting medicated and everything because they're they're just not
- 49:30Speaker 1: they're not ready for this much liberty.
- 49:33Speaker 3: But even beyond that, like they won't see, you know,
- 49:37Speaker 3: even if they were like deletally pathological, even without the medication.
- 49:42Speaker 3: We're all medication on SSSR.
- 49:44Speaker 1: They're like it's like, no, the SSRIs are a symptoms.
- 49:47Speaker 3: Like German vermac Warrior in nineteen forty on Pervet and
- 49:52Speaker 3: attacking France, Like it's completely you cannot deal with it.
- 49:56Speaker 3: This bit creature rationally at the point right moment gets
- 50:00Speaker 3: on SSRIs and adult the entire battery xanax and zogloss
- 50:03Speaker 3: and and and all these, this battery of pharmacological pro schedules.
- 50:12Speaker 3: Even then, if even the women weren't insane, they wouldn't
- 50:17Speaker 3: I don't think they would find men attractive if they
- 50:19Speaker 3: weren't like the necessity of of of them. Because it
- 50:25Speaker 3: is it seems to be the case that attraction, at
- 50:31Speaker 3: least in some form from the women's side, develops uh
- 50:36Speaker 3: with familiarity, meaning if if if women just were just
- 50:41Speaker 3: forced to you know, not in a sort of arranged
- 50:44Speaker 3: marriage situation or like forced marriage, not not in maybe
- 50:49Speaker 3: not exactly maybe not entirely arranged, but in a situation
- 50:54Speaker 3: where the woman is forced to track up with the
- 50:57Speaker 3: man and sort of be in a presence of men,
- 50:59Speaker 3: and the attraction that develops. Right but maybe if if
- 51:05Speaker 3: he isn't forced a few people, maybe from that it
- 51:09Speaker 3: is feasible or possible that a normal, healthy relationships that last,
- 51:14Speaker 3: you know, decades and forms of family and it's success
- 51:19Speaker 3: by all measures, that that comes from that, right, But
- 51:25Speaker 3: it would have been an outcome of the initial forcing
- 51:31Speaker 3: of the issue of like press ganging the woman into it. Right,
- 51:35Speaker 3: that the outcome is ultimately positive biometrics, but the means
- 51:39Speaker 3: are forceful. Let's just say, and that the outcome, the
- 51:44Speaker 3: positive outcome, wouldn't have materialized if the woman was just
- 51:47Speaker 3: quote unquote free, right, and was free to choose free,
- 51:51Speaker 3: free to keep waiting until she's forty for fucking brad
- 51:54Speaker 3: paid to appear somewhere, right.
- 51:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 51:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:02Speaker 1: So another guy's post said alcohol sales have dropped, weed
- 52:06Speaker 1: sales have dropped. He's got like a global condom market
- 52:09Speaker 1: graph here, condom sales have increased. Rich men are protecting
- 52:12Speaker 1: themselves from many women. Makes sense, I guess. Uh, Doctor
- 52:21Speaker 1: Nuan Chuuku, some African guy's name I don't know, says
- 52:26Speaker 1: women shelling out one hundred dollars to get in the
- 52:28Speaker 1: door while men walk in free. And it's still with
- 52:30Speaker 1: three women for every man. That's not brutal dating. That's
- 52:33Speaker 1: the market showing its cards. Desiral men in New York
- 52:35Speaker 1: City are the scarcest resource. Apps trained top tier guys
- 52:39Speaker 1: who expect abundance with zero effort. Average guys many don't
- 52:42Speaker 1: bother showing up women burned out on swipes, ghosting, and
- 52:45Speaker 1: low effort dates. So they're paying premium for controlled environment. Maybe,
- 52:50Speaker 1: I mean, but I was trying to find some of
- 52:55Speaker 1: the like I know, Pearls said something about this, and
- 52:58Speaker 1: the fresh and Fick guys something about this. Let me see,
- 53:01Speaker 1: Allison says lippy. Right now, I'm debugging fucking Python scripts.
- 53:05Speaker 1: Let's get rid of just let's just get rid of feminism.
- 53:08Speaker 1: See what happens, That's what Alison said. Well, I think
- 53:11Speaker 1: this will do it because like women, you know, they're
- 53:14Speaker 1: of like forty five percent of women are going to
- 53:16Speaker 1: be childless and alone in uh probably in about like
- 53:21Speaker 1: I don't know, ten years. They're paying premiums to be ignored. Well,
- 53:25Speaker 1: men aren't showing up anyway, So let me see if
- 53:29Speaker 1: I can find fresh and fits reaction to this and
- 53:34Speaker 1: read it for you guys. I'm Havingrett Brett read it,
- 53:36Speaker 1: so maybe I can just find it in her video.
- 53:39Speaker 1: She that's like her video is just reading people's comments
- 53:42Speaker 1: and then giving her takes. So what's this one say?
- 53:46Speaker 1: Let me see just the moment? Uh, Chrissy. I think
- 53:52Speaker 1: this is the result of all the men hatred that's
- 53:55Speaker 1: been spewed over the last few years to be honest.
- 53:57Speaker 1: I think it's important to hold men accountable and versa.
- 54:00Speaker 1: But hating men became a trend, which is why I
- 54:03Speaker 1: think good men don't feel comfortable approaching women the way
- 54:06Speaker 1: they used to. Uh sure, I guess Myron gains here
- 54:12Speaker 1: it is. He says I called this six years ago.
- 54:15Speaker 1: The red pill explosion woke millions of men up to
- 54:20Speaker 1: modern women's game. For a decade, average guys got ignored, ghosted,
- 54:25Speaker 1: and treated like options. Now they're done. They'd rather grind
- 54:28Speaker 1: video games, stack cash, hit the gym or it, or
- 54:31Speaker 1: just live free than blow the thousands chasing entitled, unappreciative
- 54:36Speaker 1: women in loud bars or on apps. Men are fed
- 54:39Speaker 1: up with the disrespect, the hypergamy, and the attitude. This
- 54:42Speaker 1: migtiu slash red pill trend isn't slowing down. It's accelerating.
- 54:46Speaker 1: Year after year. More women will, more men will opt out.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Women ignored the warning signs. Now they're living with the consequences.
- 54:53Speaker 1: I talk about this extensively in my second book, Why
- 54:56Speaker 1: Women Deserve Even Less, which is the sequel to his
- 54:59Speaker 1: book Why Women Deserve of Less, which is a sequel
- 55:02Speaker 1: to my first book, Why Women Deserve Less. Link below
- 55:05Speaker 1: I mean he's obviously using it to sell a book.
- 55:06Speaker 1: But no, but I mean he's right though, So when
- 55:10Speaker 1: did we stop holding that accountable? It's a it's a
- 55:12Speaker 1: stupid comment, Alison. Why are you never mind? Go ahead?
- 55:15Speaker 1: What are we gonna say?
- 55:18Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a right, Uh the implication in here, and
- 55:26Speaker 3: and I'm familiar with mister Gains. Mister Gains. This sort
- 55:30Speaker 3: of content is not his actual name. His name is
- 55:33Speaker 3: like some some Arab things, he's from the Saudi Arabia
- 55:36Speaker 3: or something Sudan.
- 55:38Speaker 1: He's from Sudan.
- 55:39Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing is the woman might not care. Like
- 55:44Speaker 3: the implication in that in a post, and implication in
- 55:47Speaker 3: his in his content often is that oh, the women
- 55:51Speaker 3: we come to will come to regret this at some point.
- 55:56Speaker 3: Maybe they don't. What if they don't, you know, what if.
- 55:59Speaker 1: They can just.
- 56:02Speaker 3: You know, coast in the morally evolved sunny uplands of feminism,
- 56:07Speaker 3: where they are single at forty and just drink wine
- 56:10Speaker 3: and have cats and are basically the societies prefer consumer
- 56:15Speaker 3: class and everything is provided for them and they are
- 56:18Speaker 3: the first class citizens.
- 56:20Speaker 1: I don't think that that's sustainable though, So I don't
- 56:24Speaker 1: think I don't And I don't think that. I think
- 56:26Speaker 1: a lot of them are not going to be happy
- 56:28Speaker 1: with that. They're going to say that they're happy, but
- 56:30Speaker 1: it's cope. They're already unhappy. They're miserable.
- 56:33Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody copes, that's the thing. Yeah, and somehow better
- 56:37Speaker 3: than others. And it might be and I suspect this
- 56:41Speaker 3: will be true that women will be fine ultimately with
- 56:45Speaker 3: being single when they will try to go through the rigamarole.
- 56:49Speaker 3: They will try to go through the speed dating events,
- 56:51Speaker 3: and after enough experience of they will of course have
- 56:56Speaker 3: their you know, twenties whole face experience. Some of the
- 56:59Speaker 3: time when it comes to settle down, it will be
- 57:03Speaker 3: like Norwood, it beatas right, someoney like me that has
- 57:09Speaker 3: working the typical slavic Norwood, and it's like, okay, no thanks,
- 57:13Speaker 3: no thanks, I'm fine. And when they realize that that
- 57:19Speaker 3: basically dating or marrying an idyllic relationship with bread it
- 57:26Speaker 3: is not on the table. Uh, then we'll just say, okay,
- 57:30Speaker 3: the cats, the wine and prozac. It's good enough.
- 57:35Speaker 1: Right.
- 57:36Speaker 3: So women's dissatisfaction may not materialize, and to the extent
- 57:42Speaker 3: that it will will not be any kind of sufficient
- 57:46Speaker 3: catalyst for spructural change or change of any kind.
- 57:50Speaker 1: Well, then it's a self correcting phenomenon because the men
- 57:54Speaker 1: and women who are getting together are gonna have kids
- 57:57Speaker 1: and so like that. That's gonna like basically, the people
- 58:00Speaker 1: who endure, they're probably going to be conservative are the
- 58:06Speaker 1: ones that are going to carry it on. And the
- 58:08Speaker 1: ones that don't, that live in the sort of liberal
- 58:11Speaker 1: urban monoculture, they will probably just die off. No legacy.
- 58:19Speaker 3: The problem with conceiving person the the issue will be
- 58:25Speaker 3: forced by uh, you know, the economic realities and the
- 58:29Speaker 3: production realities that Ason talks about all the time. If
- 58:33Speaker 3: the production and productivity and the incentive for the productive
- 58:37Speaker 3: the only productive class is going to disappear yet, and
- 58:39Speaker 3: then something is going to break eventually, Like you can't
- 58:42Speaker 3: you can can't derivative yourself, like creating financial derivative products
- 58:50Speaker 3: out of increasingly shrinking the actual production class to the
- 58:54Speaker 3: point where one guy making widgets in the last guy,
- 58:58Speaker 3: the last man on the planet make widgets in a factory,
- 59:02Speaker 3: holds the entire economy on his shoulders and everything, like
- 59:07Speaker 3: all the trillions clothing in the economy is ultimately a
- 59:10Speaker 3: derivative of the one widget he's making per day or something. Right, Yeah,
- 59:15Speaker 3: that situation is like going to collapse eventually somewhere somehow.
- 59:21Speaker 1: But I.
- 59:28Speaker 3: Slipped my mind, but I wanted to say, but you're
- 59:31Speaker 3: right conceiving of this of a sort of like Darwinian
- 59:34Speaker 3: selection pressure event wherein okay, the mend mentally illiberal women
- 59:39Speaker 3: will just you know fade into you know, fade into
- 59:43Speaker 3: dust eventually, and conservative and same people will will continue
- 59:47Speaker 3: to pro create even if they will manage to do
- 59:49Speaker 3: that on insufficient numbers that doesn't break the span of
- 59:53Speaker 3: the economy, which I don't think will happen. Uh, you,
- 59:59Speaker 3: it is going to suck. It is going to going
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: to suck for the equivalent proportion of men. Because for
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: every childless head woman that decidness it's fine being you know,
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: societies preferred consumer, first class citizen on prozac and vine
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: and cats. For every one of those, there is an
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: equivalent insult that's you know, rodding somewhere.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Ah.
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: So so this is deriving in selection pressure event is
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: going to create an incredible amount of misery. And yeah,
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: this is my point is it's not going to be
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: as a childhood's and like fading into nothingness, Uh, fading
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: into like like going going gently into the night, good night. Right,
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: It's going to be miserable.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: For a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, there's gonna be
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: a lot of suffering except for the people who are
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: able to essentially like exist outside of that system that
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: is depending on men's productivity essentially. But yeah, it is
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: gonna suck, and I don't know if there's any other
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: way for people to like snap out of it. So
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: but look, I got to end the show here because
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: we're at the hour and I gotta go pick up
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: the wife. So thank you Ink yourself for your commentary.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: Appreciate it, and thank you guys. I want to know
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: what you guys think about this. This Uh well, it
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: is kind of you know, it's it's it's dire. We're
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: in a we're in a dire situation and everyone's still,
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: like I said, dancing around the reality and they don't
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: want to face it. And we'll just keep telling people,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: you know, like warning them about it. So see what happened,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: I guess, but I'll be here for that. And thank
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