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IAAI Town Meeting: Gilmore Girls Lost the Plot? (Season 3 E22 “Those Are Strings Pinocchio”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh it's just you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 2: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to
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  Speaker 2: another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself,
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  Speaker 2: Tara and Suzanne.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Today we're talking about the season three finale, which
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  Speaker 2: is season three episode twenty two. Those are Strings Pinocchio,
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  Speaker 2: which aired on May twentieth, two thousand and three, which
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  Speaker 2: not the exact date two thous and three, but that's
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  Speaker 2: my parents anniversary. Oh yeah, I think we got married
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  Speaker 2: in eighty nine. I think. Yeah, cool.
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  Speaker 1: Finale. What do you think I liked it.
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  Speaker 3: I liked this episode. You know, there's a lot going
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  Speaker 3: on and some good setup for Oh yeah, it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: lead into season four, So yeah, I thought I was good.
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  Speaker 2: I know, like over time, probably the last time we
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  Speaker 2: did this rewatch and I think even last week I
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  Speaker 2: said it, But like I have always said, I this
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  Speaker 2: is one of my favorite episodes. And I kind of
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  Speaker 2: was like, I watch it twice and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: why is it my favorite episode?
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  Speaker 1: Because like breaking it down, I was like, it's really good.
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  Speaker 2: But I think because I rewatched it all in high
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  Speaker 2: school in college, and this episode feels like I completely
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  Speaker 2: closed a chapter of Gilmore Girls, like and I think
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  Speaker 2: because I was going through those moments like school and
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  Speaker 2: you know, graduating and whatnot, like I kind of related
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  Speaker 2: to it, yeah, in the Rory aspect of it and
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  Speaker 2: like moving on. And so when I was watching it
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  Speaker 2: this time, I was like, you know what, not that
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  Speaker 2: I would want the show to end here, But if
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  Speaker 2: the show ended here, it would have been fine, Like
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  Speaker 2: it really we're now going into like phase two of
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  Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, right exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of was nice. I think it was great.
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  Speaker 1: I had some little.
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  Speaker 2: Like notes where I was like, huh, like just like
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  Speaker 2: quirky things where you're like, this makes sense, but okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But and then the speech.
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  Speaker 2: I like when they show Rory's speech and I always
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  Speaker 2: get emotional because it's always like so nice. But I
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  Speaker 2: wish they showed the whole thing because then I realized
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  Speaker 2: that they just cut her off.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, because they pan out and you can see
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  Speaker 3: she's still talking. Yeah, I mean I guess presumably after
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  Speaker 3: she talked about her family and so she would have
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  Speaker 3: shifted into you know, children is so great and like
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  Speaker 3: kind of generic.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would want to hear that and like
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  Speaker 2: about her journey and then the journey that everyone's about
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  Speaker 2: to go on.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I would have tied the bow on
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  Speaker 1: top of the yeah anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well and kind of tying into that. So I
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  Speaker 3: think I've mentioned before how that kind of is Amy
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  Speaker 3: Sherman Palladino's thing, where she leads you up to something
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  Speaker 3: and then just leaves you hanging. Yeah, and they they
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  Speaker 3: really touched on that with Lane's prom.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, suddenly.
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  Speaker 3: And we started hearing about the prom. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was like Laurelway's birthday episode.
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  Speaker 1: A long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. There were like, I don't know, four or
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  Speaker 3: five episodes where we heard all about Lane's prom and
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  Speaker 3: leading up to it and who's her day going to
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  Speaker 3: be and it's not going to be Dave, right, And
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  Speaker 3: then we get to this episode and she's like, here's
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  Speaker 3: my two hundred pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Also show us one, give us a photo.
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  Speaker 3: We got nothing. All of that lead up to the
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  Speaker 3: prom and we got nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wonder, I wonder if it's because well, do
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  Speaker 2: we get any more? I was about to say, Seth
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  Speaker 2: Cohen different show, do we get any more? Day or gals, Peter, No,
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I don't think we get him anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think he moves on and
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  Speaker 3: so because they refer to him, but we don't see him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I'm saying, like maybe the reason why
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of a throwaway and like here's the
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  Speaker 2: bag of photos is because we lost.
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  Speaker 3: He was already got brody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that could be.
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  Speaker 3: That could be, but still whatever the behind the scenes
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  Speaker 3: reason was, it was disappointed, like I wanted to see
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  Speaker 3: the dress and yeah, I don't know. We just had
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  Speaker 3: so much lead up to the prom. And it was
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  Speaker 3: the same thing with Suki's wedding, Like we had multiple
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  Speaker 3: episodes about getting ready for Suki's wedding and then we
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  Speaker 3: got to see just the barest glimpse of them walking
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  Speaker 3: to the ceremony. So yeah, it's just a pattern with her,
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  Speaker 3: but we know she got to go to the prom,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll just have to make the rest up it.
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  Speaker 2: And also the way the photos were in the bag,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, it's really an interesting way of like
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  Speaker 2: there must have been like ten thousand in there. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so his last episode was season three, episode twenty, So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I wonder if they had to pivot the prompt
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  Speaker 2: storyline and like, yeah, maybe because it was such a
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  Speaker 2: build up to just give us a bag of photos
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  Speaker 2: right where you put it that way, I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: you're right.
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  Speaker 3: I had one fun fact that I did not know
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  Speaker 3: until I was until I watched the episode this time.
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  Speaker 3: But at the beginning where the Chiltern kids are all
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  Speaker 3: lined up and they're filming the end of the year videos,
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  Speaker 3: the one girl that starts talking first and she's like
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  Speaker 3: thinking the housekeeping staff and stuff, that was Liza's sister.
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  Speaker 3: Oh in real life?
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  Speaker 1: Oh funny? Is she an actress or was she just
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  Speaker 1: like an appearance?
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  Speaker 3: So I looked her up on IMDb and she had
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  Speaker 3: like one or two things, but.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that probably was like, hey can my
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  Speaker 2: sister be in this episode of this week?
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  Speaker 3: Right exactly? So I thought that was a fun little fact.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a speaking part, right, No, yeah she did.
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  Speaker 3: She's she was the one that started out in the
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  Speaker 3: chair on the video and she's like, I want to
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  Speaker 3: thank hi.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's because I was saying, like I always wonder
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  Speaker 2: how many because we have to be sag in order
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  Speaker 2: to like, but you can say like a certain amount
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  Speaker 2: of words or sentences.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I wasn't wondering.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that was probably under the fun And
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  Speaker 3: then speaking of sisters, this this was mentioned in Lauren's
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  Speaker 3: book that we reviewed, But I'm at the graduation ceremony
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  Speaker 3: behind Rory. The blonde was Lauren's sister.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I forgot about that until you just
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it. Yeah yeah, speaking of the ceremony, can we
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  Speaker 2: jump there for a second. Sure, The way Suki just
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  Speaker 2: runs up to take photos, I'm like, no, I actually
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  Speaker 2: would have loved for someone to like yell at her
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  Speaker 2: to sit because it was so ridiculous get out of
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  Speaker 2: the way, lady, or like you know something.
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  Speaker 3: And I was just I don't climbing over the people
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  Speaker 3: to go back.
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  Speaker 2: That was a funny bit though. That was actually a
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  Speaker 2: funny bit. But the part where she just goes up
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  Speaker 2: and she's just taking a picture of Rory, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I just would never have and then she just like
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  Speaker 2: runs off.
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  Speaker 3: I knew I do. Like she ran up in the
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  Speaker 3: like across the stage, going down the aisle to her seat.
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  Speaker 2: It was like I was just gonna go back around
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  Speaker 2: and like probably crawl over Richard and Emily.
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  Speaker 3: On that same scene. I thought it was funny when
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  Speaker 3: she's climbing over the people and she goes, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: normally like like this, but today I am.
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  Speaker 2: I also thought it was a very bold move to
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  Speaker 2: not bring Christopher into this. I mean, it's very telling,
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  Speaker 2: but it also is confusing because we get so much
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  Speaker 2: Christopher and then suddenly like these big moments like he
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't come to the graduation.
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  Speaker 3: But that's like kind of normal Christopher.
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  Speaker 2: Like it is, but like we hadn't seen It's been
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  Speaker 2: a minute since we've seen him. It's been since Sherry
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  Speaker 2: had the baby, right, And so I mean, listen, I
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  Speaker 2: get why, but I was kind of like.
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  Speaker 1: Don't keep bringing him back when like.
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  Speaker 2: These little moments like just attending the graduation, or even
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  Speaker 2: if it was like a hey, Rory, sorry couldn't be there,
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  Speaker 2: like a quick phone exchange, like give him a moment,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel like we're not supposed to like his
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  Speaker 2: character anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, and it could have been the
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  Speaker 3: same thing with Brody like maybe available, yeah week they
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  Speaker 3: shot that episode, who knows, But I mean it but
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  Speaker 3: it fit the the it fit his character that he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's true. Yeah. By the way, did you notice
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  Speaker 1: the clown pillow?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, when when they were talking about they can't
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  Speaker 3: buy the dragonfly?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was like sideways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I kind of know it was there. It
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  Speaker 3: was visible.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I really liked Scott in this episode. Thought it
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  Speaker 2: was very sweet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was he was good. It was funny. He
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  Speaker 3: and Jackson were always going on out the building and
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  Speaker 3: then he tells Rory the building is amazing and then
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  Speaker 3: he's like, oh you are too.
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  Speaker 2: It's also such a guy thing. So I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: gone on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah uh.
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  Speaker 2: And then the ess part of it, it made me sad,
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  Speaker 2: but she said what she needed to say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was right about all was right, yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just the one thing that bug me
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  Speaker 2: was like knowing that he was still in Venice Beach
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  Speaker 2: and like this was supposed to be a spin off,
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  Speaker 2: So like, do you think with them knowing that, they
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  Speaker 2: were just gonna end Jess's character off like that, like
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  Speaker 2: that was the last of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking about that, and I was wondering, like
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  Speaker 3: when they shot that, did they already know that the
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: pilot wasn't picked up, and so they were just trying
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: to like cut, you know, just end that storyline. But
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  Speaker 3: it would have been interesting to see how it would
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  Speaker 3: have continued had the show had the had that spin
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  Speaker 3: off gone forward, Like where would they pick that up
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  Speaker 3: in September or would they not pick it up and
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  Speaker 3: just be like, Okay, he's on his own show now
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  Speaker 3: and we already closed that door with Rory. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it could have gone They could have used that ending
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  Speaker 3: either way.
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  Speaker 1: When does he come back? Like when do we see
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  Speaker 1: Jess again?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think until season five or six something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not season four.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't all the way season
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  Speaker 2: four and on. I definitely jumble up everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything just is one.
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  Speaker 3: I know that season four is the no Boyfriend's season.
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  Speaker 3: So she's like, not with anybody I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, but four or five, six, because it's college just
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  Speaker 2: all seems I mean, while it all is college, but
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like it all is just
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  Speaker 2: is like a mush Jackie's checking to see what his
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  Speaker 2: next episode is. But I just wish I know, I
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  Speaker 2: know that's the point, but I'm like, could you have
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  Speaker 2: not said two words like just have said like bye, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I know exactly. I'm like, did he not get paid
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  Speaker 3: as much because he didn't have any lines in this episode?
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  Speaker 2: Oh he comes back season four, episode twelve, Okay, Oh
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  Speaker 2: does he Okay, doesn't ring a bell a family matter?
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that is yes, that is when he
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: comes back in the car. Oh, that's that's around when
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  Speaker 3: Liz comes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, say Liz, that's when Liz comes. All right, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's sooner than I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, yeah, yes and no, but I mean
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  Speaker 2: the Liz stuff is sooner than I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, but that yeah, but that makes
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  Speaker 3: sense because Luke and Laura I get together at the
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  Speaker 3: end of season four and it's and Liz's that's Liz's
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  Speaker 3: weddings yea, yeah, yeah, she has to show up earlier
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  Speaker 3: in season four, So you're spoiler alert for back.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's say.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, hey, when people do that, when they're
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: like spoiler, I'm like, this show's been out for twenty
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  Speaker 2: some years.
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  Speaker 1: We were good, but it.
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  Speaker 3: Proves that we get four, five, and six all jumbled
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  Speaker 3: up in our heads.
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  Speaker 1: Update.
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  Speaker 2: My friend who was binging it for the first time,
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  Speaker 2: she is like deep into season four and I was like,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: all right, well you passed where we are, so I
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  Speaker 2: mean shell, but like, it's funny because for a while
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: we were on the same track. So we talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: and then I think one weekend she was just not
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: feeling well and she was home. It's like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: just watched like ten episodes and I'm like, okay, oh,
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  Speaker 2: let's see.
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  Speaker 3: So one other thing that I like about this episode.
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  Speaker 3: And this was again something that Lauren Graham pointed out
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  Speaker 3: in her book, was the bookends of the season. How
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  Speaker 3: it starts out with Laurel I dreaming about Luke and
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  Speaker 3: then it ends with Luke dreaming about Laurel. I like,
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  Speaker 3: that's just a good way to kind of bookend THEO.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, that part threw me off. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna lie.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, huh, yeah, it's because when the part
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  Speaker 3: where he wakes up is so quick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to miss.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: And sometimes I will see like on social media people
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  Speaker 3: were like, I've seen this show dozens of times and
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  Speaker 3: I never noticed that was a dream, Like they really,
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: oh it was a dream walked in and said I
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  Speaker 3: knew it was.
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  Speaker 1: A dream, but it was just so like.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is is I think it would have made
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  Speaker 2: more sense if he woke up and then it ended
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  Speaker 2: like right there, but then we get more of the show,
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  Speaker 2: So it was just like wait what it was so
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  Speaker 2: like it.
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  Speaker 1: Was weirdly in the not middle. It was like just
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  Speaker 1: not done well.
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  Speaker 3: And it the way they the way they seek was
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  Speaker 3: the scenes like he had just left Chilton. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: this suddenly asleep already, you know, like I get that
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  Speaker 3: he's like just napping.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't it go back to the girls at Chilton by
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  Speaker 2: the staircase?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was. It was so weird.
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  Speaker 2: I literally rewound it twice both times I watched it
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  Speaker 2: and I was like why here, Like why was it
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  Speaker 2: placed right there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's with them at Chiltern. He says goodbye,
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  Speaker 3: I have to get back to the diner, and then
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  Speaker 3: they go to carve their initials on things and then
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he's asleep in the chair.
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  Speaker 2: So apparently he didn't come to the party at the
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  Speaker 2: house after.
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  Speaker 3: I guess not, and literally didn't go the diner either
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  Speaker 3: because he's upstairs in his apartment asleep in the chair
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  Speaker 3: and it was dark.
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  Speaker 1: So Lecky just completely like lost the plot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, you're right, because the windows were
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  Speaker 3: closed and he had the light on, so maybe it
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  Speaker 3: was just dark in the apartment. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it was dark outside, because then when they cut back
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  Speaker 3: to Suki and Lorelai at light outside, it's light outside. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like the graduation just ended. They're all still there.
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  Speaker 3: So how was he already at home asleep? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He's like three rem cycles in.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's like half an hour or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Also, he has to get back to the stars Hollow,
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  Speaker 2: right exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It's like for him to drive home and fall asleep,
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  Speaker 3: it's at least like forty five minutes. But they're all
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  Speaker 3: still hanging out at Chilton.
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  Speaker 2: Someone is yelling listening to us right now, go back
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  Speaker 2: and forth, and like, who cares?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, By the way, the whole point of Susan
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  Speaker 2: and I doing this, it's the pick.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, if somebody wants to criticize that, they're going to
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: be in for a treat when we get to the
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: next episode and I pick apart how long they were
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: actually in Europe for. But that's a different conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I tune in next week, oh man. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: did you have any other call outs?
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: You know? I think those were one totally minor one
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: when they're at Chilton and Lorelai tells Suki that they
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: can go put in the bid on the yep, the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Dragonfly says, okay, I'll go call the lawyer, and then
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: when she comes back, she's like, oh, the real estate
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  Speaker 3: agent wasn't available, so I left a message. It's like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: was it the lawyer.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Or was it the real estate Oh? I didn't catch that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna like nitpick me on that one.
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  Speaker 1: But that's fine, that's a good call. I was just like, oh,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: in secured, Marie.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: This was a good, solid episode, Like I really enjoyed it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: And when Paris gets her diploma and she's like, no
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: hard feelings.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: So funny. And also the exchange that Rory and Paris
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: had at.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: The end, Yeah, it was cute.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like backhanded cute. But it's just
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: like that, that's the friendship. So it's fine. Yeah but Paris, God,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: someone's gonna hate me for asking this, but I'm just
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: rewinding my brain. We don't know that Paris is going
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to yaleiat right correct? Okay, Okay, yeah, it wasn't mentioned.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: She shows up, and.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of left that hanging because we had
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: that scene. I think it was the last episode with Ror,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: not Rory, lorele I and Paris. Yeah, they were manning
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: that table. Loralai is like, don't you know, just go
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: where you want to go, don't worry about the boyfriend,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: don't worry about your mom, just go wherever. And but
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: then we never heard what her final decision was.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I wonder if well, obviously it was a choice for
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the audience because like, ha ha, she's back and she's
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: still Rory's like, like, you.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Know, Nemesis, Nemesis.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I find it weird that she didn't tell
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Rory or maybe Rory no, because NORRII doesn't know.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Rory doesn't know because it's she comes.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: In, but you know what I mean, like she would
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: have to commit by now, yeah June.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Right, and it But when in the next episode when
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: she shows up, she makes it sound like it was
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: like a last minute change, So maybe she had committed
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: somewhere but didn't tell Rory. I don't know. Rory might
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: not have cared, I don't know. The viewer didn't find
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: out either way.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's the first time where I'm like, I prefer
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: not knowing right here.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this was they really like pulled in the
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: entire cast, like, oh, everybody was in this episode, all
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the townspeople. Maybe not did we have missus Kim. I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: don't know if we had Missus Kim in this episode,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: but we had everybody else practically we had Babbitt, Maury
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and tamer And.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: But that's why I'm saying this.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: This episode felt like an official closing of like chapter
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: one of Gilmore Girls.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, and.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: You never know.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, by the way season three to four, they
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: were probably still doing amazing numbers. I don't think they
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: were gonna get canceled, but I wonder if there was
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: a fear of like.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: We should probably close this chapter.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: But if you'll go back and you binge other shows,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: like there's sometimes like I can't think of it off
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the top of my head, and I want to say
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, but there's like five hundred seasons of that show,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: so I can't tell you which.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: One I watched them all.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: But some seasons just end right like it's just like okay, cool,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: and then other ones leave you on this giant cliffhanger
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: where you're like, I cannot wait until fall. Right, this
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: was one where we're like, okay, it wasn't like the
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Jess kiss, you know, like situation right, yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Because some shows like you, when you binge them, you
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: don't even notice when it changes seasons, like because the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: plot just keeps going and then like, oh, I guess
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: we're on season four now, Like I didn't even you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: there isn't that big cliffhanger at the end.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Can I just say I as I know I mentioned
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: this before, but like I love my doctor shows, Great
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Anatomy and I won one.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah all that right now, like specifically for nine to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: one one.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: It kills me that I have to wait like a
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: week and then this is gonna air a little bit later,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: but right now they were like, oh on Instagram, I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: see like, oh, no, new episode tonight.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're taking a three week break. And it
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: killed me.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this damn show, How do we
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: used to wait so long? Because I'm in such a binge? Yeah, old,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't wait three weeks for another episode, right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I forget about it? And like Euphoria's coming back and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Euphoria ended three years ago. How am I.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Supposed to know what happened?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's been when they do that, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: we've talked about it before. That's also the problem with
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: just a ten episode season is you have so much
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: time to forget what happened.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Hear, so much time to forget, but you also have
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: an easier time going back. Yeah, that's like it's really
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: hard to go back and be like, oh, I'm gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: watch twenty six episodes.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so to catch up to the next season.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, anyway, did you have any other call outs for
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: this episode?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: No? That was it. Oh wait, I do have one more.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I scrolled down and I saw at the very end
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: this is another minor one, but at the very end
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: where they're at Chilton and loreleies talking about you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: it's not so scary anymore, which she's having, like the
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: back and forth I think it was when I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it was when Suki was standing in the doorway talking
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: to them. But there's a part where you can see
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the shadow of the boom mic like, come.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I actually did see that. No, I forgot I did
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: see that because.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, what is that?
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like right at the very very end, So yeah,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I actually see the actual mind No, but.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: The shadow I noticed it too.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: But yeah, good, good, solid episode.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I loved it one all right.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Well, next week we're going to be talking about season four,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: episode one, Ballrooms and Biscatti, which aired September twenty third,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: We will see you next time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Meeting adjourned my modest data. Everybody, and don't forget follow
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com