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ABJ Podcast Ep 72 Juni Underwood · ABJ

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What is going on everybody? We are back for another episode
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would bring him in in one moment.
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medias as well. But my guest here today is
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someone I got to see a lot on the scene.
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Have you seen him all over the place?
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He's he's grinding at the northeast scene.
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You've seen him on GCW Sanctuary everywhere.
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The Lost Boys, part of the Lost Boys stable, they are just
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absolutely killing it. So without further ado, let's
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let's bring them in. My guest tonight, Junie
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Underwood. What's going on, bud?
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Not a whole lot. Glad I could be on.
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I'm I'm super happy you are here.
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I'm very very excited for this. We eventually will have every
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member of the Lost boys on. That is my that is my promise
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and my goal for the podcast cuz they're all extremely talented.
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Even the underage one who can't drink, you know what I mean?
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Two of them. Two of them.
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Two of them that can't drink. I'm the oldest one.
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I'm the oldest lost boy. Ryan is a year younger than I
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am. And then?
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Nathan is just turned 20 and Miles is about to turn 20.
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Yeah. Yeah, we're, they're, they're
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they're the young lads for sure. Awesome, man.
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What? Yeah.
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So this gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna learn a lot about
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you and and dive right into it. So let's get the first one in.
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What is your earliest memory of becoming a fan of professional
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wrestling? So I I would assume that this
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was off of a DVD. But my the the first match
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memory that I like really remember was the Triangle Triple
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Threat Ladder match, the tag ladder match between E&C parties
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and the Dudleys. That match was it for me of
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like, wow, these guys are nuts. And just through that, that
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little area era, the IT was more so like the Ruthless Aggression
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era is really where I started. And then obviously I got I had
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some really cool old school Stone Cold Steve Austin DHS
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tapes. So I would like, I would burn
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that to the absolute ground and my dad would have like this nice
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little collection of a bunch of old like 9899 pay per views and
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that's kind of, I would do some watch those until I literally
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couldn't yeah pre network. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
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Yeah. Little, little me.
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And I mean I have. When I was I think either three
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or four I was stone cold for Halloween.
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Like I I was really invested and and I mean from there just it
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continued to just spiral and then he and a with the
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exhibition my favorite wrestler of all time Chris Saban who.
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Probably the biggest reason as to why I decided to to to start
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wrestling in the 1st place. Just the way that he can tell
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stories and also have these incredible this incredible move
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set which a lot of people I feel like have a hard time combining
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the two. Sometimes you can tell a really
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good story but you don't really like you're not like you don't
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do cool stuff and then sometimes you do really cool stuff but you
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don't know how to tell a story. And Chris Saban, people like
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Chris Saban, people like speedball.
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They have found how to do both and.
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I want to be a part of that. I want to be able to do really
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cool stuff but also tell a really good story.
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And so yeah, it's just kind of all spiraled.
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And it really all started from Jeff Hardy, like Jeff Hardy.
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Edge, like the Christian Christian Cage is a big
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inspiration for me in terms of my wrestling.
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But yeah, I I I didn't know I wanted to be.
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A professional wrestler. Like super early.
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But like before I was 10, I was like, yeah, I'm going to be a
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professional wrestler. And then just as Tom went on, I
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was like, Oh no, I don't know if this is going to, I don't know
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if this is going to pan out for me.
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And then I was 19, I was in college.
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Life is kind of like, I don't know what I'm going to do with
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my life. And then I went upstairs on a
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Friday to get a Peach Snapple. And that's a story for later in
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the podcast. Yeah, it is insane.
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Growing up in this business and watching it and and seeing all
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that and then eventually get transition that point, we're
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like what am I going to do it myself now growing up were you
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always athletic? Did you play sports?
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Was that something you did or how would if you met Junie in
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school growing up, what kind of person were you?
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I. Definitely had a chip on my
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shoulder. I've always been the smallest.
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Like, literally one of the smallest guys in the room.
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Always. Like, even like now I'm
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surprisingly like you. You would not expect me to look
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the way that I looked in high school, even.
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But I've never been athletic, per se.
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I've just always been very like determined, like I just have
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this like. I want to try something, and I
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don't even want to try it. I want to be good at it.
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I want to be decent at it. And then I obsess about it for a
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really long time. I get good at it and then I kind
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of stop. But this is like the first time.
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That's like that's not the case. Where like I've loved it.
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I've wanted to get good at it. I'm getting to where I'm kind of
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breaking that stride. And I have no, I will not quit.
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I have. I have all like I'm.
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Full speed ahead. The mind is stronger than the
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body. Oh, it is that from I did cross
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country and I stuck from 7th grade all the way to 9th grade.
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I was literally unable to do any physical activity at all because
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if I if my head got Jarred just enough, I had a hole in it from
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I had some ear surgeries. That where I had to get my
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eardrum removed. So I sort of just had like a
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hole in my head and basically if I got hit too hard, who knows
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what could have happened. Could have been very fatal,
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could have been could have put me in a coma, could have any
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anything could have happened that the doctors strongly
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advised against physical activity.
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And so the first time I ever ran a 5K, I it literally took me
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like 42 minutes. And this is like.
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Late in this into my 9th grade year or a middle issue of my 9th
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grade year. And I was like, man, I have no
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stamina. Which makes sense because I
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literally couldn't do anything for two to three years of my
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life. And I just, I kept running and I
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kept running and I was like, I'm going to get good at running.
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I hate running, but I'm going to get good at it.
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And then by the time I was a senior.
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I read I qualified for state championships in cross country
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running like the fastest I've ever ran 5K was like 1746 I
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believe so like so like a big jump from the 12th grade and I
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it's just I had a 5K. I would need a month and a half
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to get it done. No, no, no.
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It's a lot easier than people. I'd be walking and like, oh, a
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bar, and then I'd go into it. But right, like it's the the
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mind is is so much stronger than the body and if you just will
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yourself to do things, sometimes that's all it takes.
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Yeah. So at what point in time you
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kind of allude to a little bit. What point in time did you say,
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alright, this is a I I want to pursue this, I want to become a
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professional wrestler and how did you go about finding your
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school and what was the process of that like?
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So the the the school process was was of OK I wish I did I.
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I wish I was like on Twitter more to like, really understand,
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like what I'm kind of getting into.
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But it was so prior to, so prior to wrestling, I was.
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I graduated college with a theater degree with a theater
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education degree, but prior to getting into theater education,
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I was a graphic design maker. And so I hated it.
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It wasn't what I wanted. I wanted to draw like comic
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books and stuff like that because I was an artist at the
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time. I definitely don't know how I
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would do in terms of picking up the pen now, But I basically was
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like, this isn't what I want to do and I need to figure
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something out. So I talked to my mom and my
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mom's like, just try things like this is the stage of your life
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that you're at. Try things, see what sticks.
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And it's. Then I was like 5 or 6 hours
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later I couldn't sleep. And I I love, I love Peach
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Snapple. Same.
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It's my favorites. It's my favorite and now it has
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like a sentimental thing to me. Like every time I see one I'm
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like, you're probably why I'm wrestling and I went upstairs to
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to get a Peach Snapple. I walk over to the night
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assistant on duty because I have to pass start to get to my dorm
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and. I was like, what are you doing?
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Like, it's it's like 2:45 in the morning, almost 3:00 AM And I'm
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like, what are you doing? And she's like, I'm, I'm, I'm
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watching a musical that I'm gonna audition for.
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And I was like, ohh, that's really cool.
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And she was like, I guess just to be nice, she was like, you
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should audition for it. And I'm like, I don't do
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theater. Like, I'm not that kind of guy.
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And then I walk away. I, like, start heading
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downstairs. I'm about to get to my room.
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And then I'm like, why did I just deny that?
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Like, I just had this conversation with my mom.
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About trying things. And I'm not even gonna give it a
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shot. So I turn around, I walk back
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upstairs and I'm like, what do I need to do to audition for the
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show? And she, like, told me I needed
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16 bars and I needed 32nd monologue.
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And I'm like, I don't know what You bet.
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I don't know what you're asking me, but you're asking me to
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freestyle 16 bars. Is that?
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Yeah, like what? Do I have to drink at 16 bars
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before I do this like? Yeah, something I'll tell you
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what the the one of the coolest things I just pulled out of what
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you just said is your the the wherewithal, your mother.
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I'm saying to you this is the age of your life where you
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experiment and try things. I think right now in this day
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and age and it's it's even something I'm struggling with
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cuz I'm I'm in my mid 30s and everything I watch like I'm
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always watching these videos and you hear these people and people
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like yo you don't figure life out until your 40s.
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Like your your 20s is your figure out, your 30s is what
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you're starting to put together and the 40s is when it clicks.
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I don't know how true that is but we live in the day and age
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now. We're where people, where we're
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setting expectations for 18 to 20 to 25 year olds to just hit
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life running and not have that trial period of figuring shit
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out and failing and and doing that.
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Everyone's expected to just be good and be on top of your level
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at such an early age and it's so unrealistic to put on people
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like that. And it's just a it's such an
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expectation that's so harmful for this generation.
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And that's why I think the depression and anxiety, all that
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stuff is so sky high is because it's like it's OK to fuck up.
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It's OK to suck at something. It's OK to fail because success
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is you just standing on the top on top of your mountain of
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failures. So the fact that your mom gave
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you that advice, like go and figure it out.
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And if it sucks and you're not good at it, at least you have it
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in your back pocket to say I gave it a shot.
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So that's that's I think that's huge character building for you
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and probably why you are the way you are right now.
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It it it was really like like one of the things that that that
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definitely gave me that try stuff like if somebody gives me
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an idea even like in the raid, I will I will have my thoughts on
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it, but I will listen to it and I'll give it a shot of like OK
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this. This sounds like this maybe
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isn't the plan. And then sometimes it surprises
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me. Sometimes I'm like, you know
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what, Like, let's try it like? And that really stems from that
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moment of her being like, you just need to try stuff like
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don't be so closedminded, Like, don't believe that this choice
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you made has to be the choice you always make.
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Like just really understanding that of like things change like
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you. One day you're you're wanting to
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be a graphic design major, and the next day you don't.
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And then your whole life changes and you figure you figure that
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out. And then you you keep going and
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no balls. And through theater, getting
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into theater, because I ended up getting into that show.
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Through getting into theater, I became much more comfortable
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with wrestling, because this was the time in which I was kind of
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disconnected from wrestling. In high school I got bullied for
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for liking wrestling and I was one of those kids that's like,
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if this is the issue, if this is if this is what's getting me
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picked on, I just throw this away.
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Obviously that's changed a lot in my life now.
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Like if if you don't like me for something like sounds like a new
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problem, yeah. But at the time, yeah, the kid
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kids were brutal. And so.
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But through theater, I I just became more comfortable with who
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I was of, like I really got to, you know, I got to be a bunch of
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these characters that were sometimes me, sometimes similar
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to me, sometimes not so similar to me.
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And through that I was able to just, like really figure out who
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I was. Because I I personally feel like
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when you're acting, it's a lot easier to act when you know how
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to separate yourself from the thing, while also like.
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Being able to to connect with that thing, so like knowing
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yourself is is important so that you can disconnect and connect
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to the part that you're going to play.
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And so through doing that, I just, I I got back into
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wrestling I and specifically ROH really like Adam Cole
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specifically. I was getting into Beibei
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wrestling and I was like, I stumbled across Final Battle,
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Adam Cole versus Kyle O'Reilly, absolutely nuts.
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And I was talking to my dad and he was like, did he wrestling
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lately? I guess like he just picked up
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on the idea that like it was something that meet him
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connected with when I was younger.
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And I And I was like, yeah, like, I actually am.
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I'm watching this guy named Adam Cole.
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He's in ROH. Fun fact, I didn't know that he
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had just left ROH. But my dad was like, you should
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watch the NXT Takeover from this past weekend.
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And I'm like, OK, I guess I'll watch it.
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And so I watched the whole thing.
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I'm like, why am I watching this?
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And then the very end of the show, Drew McIntyre wins.
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And I'm like, oh, that's Bobby Fish and Kyle O'Reilly And then.
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All of a sudden, Adam Cole comes out and I'm like, that's Adam
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Cole. Adam Cole and Kevin Owens are my
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two favorite wrestlers on the planet right now.
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And then I just, I was like, all right, I guess I gotta watch NXT
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every week pool. And then that happened, and then
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Ovid happened and the like around that time period a little
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before that. Johnny Gargano versus Adam Cole.
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Two out of three falls, which two out of three falls is my
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favorite stipulation, just to throw that out there.
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And yeah, just then that's when it kind of clicked.
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I was asked a question by by a former partner of mine and she
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was just like, hey, what are some things that like what is
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the dream that you had that you didn't?
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Get to do and I was like, well when I was a kid, like and even
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through my teens like I wanted to be a professional wrestler.
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And she was like, why not? And I didn't have a good answer
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outside of money. And I kind of come to that
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realization of like, if money is the answer.
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I think there's a like like. I think if we can stick to it
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and focus, I think we can figure it out.
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Like if money is the only reason I'm not doing something, I can
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figure out how to make this work.
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Might take time. Might.
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Whatever, and it did it. It ended up taking like a year
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basically for me to move up here but get training, which I guess
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goes into that part of the question begins.
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Training Where are you originally from?
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I'm from North Carolina. OK, I was born in Philadelphia,
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PA My mom and my grandpa lived here a lot.
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And when I was born, my mom and my dad moved down to North
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Carolina. OK.
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So when you were you grew up North Carolina and then when you
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started your training you moved back to P A I moved back up here
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because my grandpa owns a owns a house here.
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This is where I'm staying. So I don't have to pay rent.
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So it makes it's very helpful and so that was kind of the
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idea. And then around here you, you
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know, you had wrestle Factory, the Worldwide Dojo, all of that.
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And I began training with Sonny Defarge, like I told you
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earlier, Love that guy. So talented, so insanely
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talented. More people need to be aware of
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something to find possible guests coming up on the podcast.
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Just pull that out there. I wish more people knew of his
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talent and his gift and he's just, he's very, very great
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human. And then and then of course, I
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ended up beginning to be trained by Cheeseburger who wow,
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Cheeseburger is literally insane.
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He he has helped me out immensely over the last two
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years. And through him is How I Met
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Speedball. And then I began training with
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Speedball Mike Bailey, who? He's he's insane.
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He's so good. I had the the immense honor and
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privilege to wrestle him at the Last Fighter Tainment Show.
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Stole the show, thank you. And it was like one of those
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moments where that was almost the well that that was a level
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up match for me, even if it wasn't on the ring.
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But there was a match that I had prior to that, like we'll get to
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in a little bit that that really I feel like set me up to be
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prepared for that match. If that fighter entertainment
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would have ended with you versus speedball and that would have
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been the go home match, nobody would have ever set with that.
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I don't think so either. And I also think they wouldn't
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have been upset because we probably would have added
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another like 5 to 10 minutes on it.
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Yeah, that way it was really there was not a bad match.
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That entire show, every match was our.
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Every fight, or however you want to lay it out, was highly
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entertaining. And it was good, but it was also
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because the fans were giving someone energy as well.
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So it was, it was really fun to feed off of.
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But yeah, you guys killed it. Like, I was like, wow, that was
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really good. Yeah, I just.
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And speedball has been helping me out a ton.
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Like through speedball, I've gained like just really strong,
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solid connections with people like Jordan Oliver, which.
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The future of professional wrestling.
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Jordan Oliver. That's.
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There's no doubt about it. Like him and Nick Wayne are the
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next thing. Like that's you're going to be
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talking about them in 20 years, being like the same way we talk
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about Adam Cole and everybody else.
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Jordan, to me, I'm a huge Shawn Michaels fan and every single
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time you talk about professional wrestling, you say who's the
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next this or who, who could be the net.
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And everyone says Shawn. And you have the guys like the
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Cole, like Jordan Oliver could be the next Shawn Michaels for
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sure, and he would love that. You said that because it's one
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thing. I have a whole shelf of Shawn
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Michaels right here. He's basically trying to be the
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next Shawn Michaels. And he says he's so talented,
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he's very good at and I've been learning from him just like kind
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of sitting under his learning tree and helping.
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He has helped me out so much and he's just so giving.
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And what's so cool about Jordan is like, even though he's
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obviously so much further into his career than I am, it's cool
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that it at least seems and feels as if he's, like, taking
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thoughts from me of like, he'll ask for an opinion and I'll tell
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him and like, he accepts it instead of, like trying to fight
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on it and basically tell me that I'm a I'm a greenhorn, you know?
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He's very humble and I think that's what sets him apart, is
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how much he absorbs from everybody around him.
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And he, he knows what works for him and what doesn't.
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And it's like, oh, you're giving me this thought.
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Maybe I try it and we'll see what happens.
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And like, it's just so cool to see because there's a lot of
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people in this, there's a lot of people in this industry that
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that are not that way, that don't listen to you at all and
24:43
think that their word is is God's.
24:45
And it's that's kind of, that's sad.
24:50
I feel bad for you. But then you have people like
24:53
Jordan and you have people like Speedball who are just they
24:57
grief of wisdom and they want to gain wisdom as much as give
25:02
wisdom. And so it's it's really sick to
25:07
just be around those people. That's a that's a that's a
25:11
that's a crazy Mount Rushmore of people.
25:13
You've been under the sunny cheeseburger Jordan and and and
25:18
speedball Mike Bailey. I mean that's that's iron.
25:20
Sharpens iron to its full extent.
25:22
Right there. Trying very hard, yeah.
25:24
Yeah. It show.
25:25
It shows them who you are as a person and when you do perform
25:28
in front of people now and the crazy thing is, is the two
25:31
things that you could probably benefit the most in this
25:33
business, graphic design when it comes to your merch and your
25:35
logos, but also the acting side of things in the theater side of
25:39
things, because how you were saying before, a lot of people
25:41
don't they they they're. So.
25:43
Involved in what? Getting to their next spot.
25:45
Getting to the next point of the the match, point of the match.
25:49
But you look at people like your cheeseburgers, your sunnies and
25:51
your speedballs. Who are all those people too who
25:54
are like, wait a second. If they do what you gotta do,
25:56
but then play to the crowd, you know what I mean?
25:58
Sell that character. Sell the story of the match and
26:01
I and and that's super important as business.
26:03
And it's it's an art that's when it's done right.
26:05
It's it's praised but when it's not done right it's one of the
26:09
biggest critiques of this business right now.
26:11
It's also it it is also really hard to do that.
26:15
Like really hard to be like all right I gotta be ready for this
26:19
Rana. But also not show the audience
26:23
that I'm preparing for this Rana And that's just it's difficult
26:29
because like you're you're trying to make sure that you get
26:31
the spots right and like it's it's it's hard and and.
26:37
I don't know how you do it. I watch people put together
26:39
matches and they talk about and you only have 1015 minutes
26:43
because independent wrestling is not like what you watch on TV
26:46
where they probably go over a match and do it on house
26:48
circuits and and house shows for a month before they hit a
26:51
pay-per-view and then they finally hit everything together
26:53
on the pay-per-view. Independent wrestling is
26:55
essentially an open mic night of at a bar.
26:58
You know what I mean? Like you're not prepared for
27:00
your song, your your band still trying to get itself together.
27:03
And you're you're figuring out within 15 minutes, have to have
27:05
everything planned. A lot of it's on the fly and you
27:08
have to still play to the crowd, but also you have to protect
27:11
yourself and your opponent. So both you just go home that
27:13
night. It's a lot to this business,
27:14
which is super impressive that when you break it down and think
27:17
about it, yeah. And I think it's really cool cuz
27:20
I have like a couple of examples of that.
27:21
Cuz at Limitless. I I ended up getting there a
27:24
little late. And so I basically just had to
27:26
kind of like know my stuff. And they were just like, hey we
27:30
have we have the structure. You kind of just got a plug and
27:33
play. And I was like, all right.
27:36
Luckily, I know my stuff and I did and it was really cool
27:39
because like, we were just able to bust it out like, because
27:42
sometimes like, so no. That's just the easiest thing of
27:46
like, hey, I we we have the story.
27:50
What do you do? And as long as you know what you
27:52
do, you you got it. And it's like, it's there.
27:57
And my my whole point with the limitless thing, I was like, I
28:00
want to tell a small little story.
28:02
I want to try to pick up the biggest guy in the match.
28:05
Can't do it. All right.
28:06
Cool. I'm going to kick him and he's
28:08
going to bounce off the ropes and then I'm going to pick him
28:11
up And then like, I just that small little story is the fatal
28:16
4 way. How can they Remember Me?
28:19
What they're going to remember is I couldn't pick up this guy.
28:21
And they all laughed at me. And then I hit him.
28:24
He bounces off the ropes. I pick him up.
28:26
And they're just like, oh, my God.
28:28
Like, that's all it took. And I like, literally, they were
28:30
like, what all do you want? Like, what do you want to do?
28:33
And I was like, I was like, where is my spots at?
28:37
And they're just like, here, here, here and here.
28:39
And I was like, OK, here, I'll do this.
28:42
Here, I'll do that. And for this part right here,
28:46
I'll tease the rolling DVD. No, no, no.
28:51
You throw me out, I'll slide under your line, come up
28:54
spinning back, he'll kick, wow, you bounce off the ropes, pick
28:58
you up all the way rolling DVD and that's basically it.
29:01
And right when I like, I'm, I'm telling you it was, I was
29:05
literally, I was sitting there the whole match and I'm like,
29:07
man, I do not think they're biting on me.
29:09
I don't think they care all that much.
29:12
And then I, I went for the DVD the first time, everybody
29:16
started laughing. And I was like, Oh yeah.
29:20
I was like, I think I got you. And then I hit it.
29:22
I hit the kick loud. You hear some people go ooh,
29:25
ooh, ooh. And then he bounces off the
29:28
ropes. I get him all the way up.
29:30
And I pause. I had it was, I was like, I
29:35
could feel it. Everyone could feel it.
29:37
I I hit Andy with the rolling DVD and he goes, you got him.
29:41
And I was like. You know, it's crazy advice that
29:46
I hear all the time, given to wrestlers and I am implemented
29:49
in the podcast game. I implemented in commentary and
29:53
it's funny that it's meant for something else, but I take it
29:55
and use it for myself is when you think you're going slow,
29:59
slow down and go slower because in your mind is so racing on
30:05
getting everything done and making sure you're doing a good
30:06
job. Slow yourself down and collect
30:09
it and feel it. And then go like, even with the
30:11
podcast, I feel like a lot of people rush through their
30:14
questions and they don't listen to their guests and stuff like
30:16
that. Because in your mind, you're
30:17
you're freaking out, you know what I mean?
30:19
But just slow down, let it come to you, you know what I mean?
30:22
And and that's that's that's a wrestling advice that I hear
30:25
given to wrestlers that I use and has nothing.
30:27
It's like a completely same thing but different you know and
30:32
and I think like with that with the slowing down part, I think
30:39
it it it's beneficial to know what you are trying to tell.
30:44
What story are you trying to tell.
30:47
Do you know that it like if if you just put a match together
30:50
and you're like, I just want this to be a cool match for like
30:52
we hit each other really hard and stuff, cool it'll it'll be
30:55
that. But if you're like OK, I know
31:00
that parts A through D of what I have don't really matter.
31:06
I have them in because I needed spots, but E&FE&F is what A
31:14
through D are leading to. And then I just, I play and I
31:19
ease into E&F and then E you're feeling something because now
31:26
you're laughing at me. You don't think I can pick this
31:30
guy up? OK, cool.
31:32
Just wait. Wait for it.
31:36
FI got him up and it's just it's it's taking that and being
31:40
patient because I was nervous. I was so worried, dude.
31:43
I really was like, I was hearing them, like there were points in
31:46
the match where I was like kind of getting booed because I guess
31:49
they just thought I was like, you know, I was a white meat
31:50
baby face and sometimes you just get booed as a white meat.
31:55
Baby face, we're in the era. We're in the heel era right now.
31:59
It's Everybody wants to be the heel and everybody wants to be
32:01
the cool heel. I love being heel.
32:03
And you know, in Pittsburgh, that's my thing, the new king of
32:08
Pittsburgh, Junie Underwood, the Pyro Prince, because I beat MV
32:12
Young writing his noggin and took his crown.
32:20
But yeah, I was so nervous. But I was just like, I know
32:26
where I want to go, I know where we want to go.
32:29
And I know that this is going to be like, I know that that story
32:33
is going to be told. And then it felt really good to
32:36
like hear that pop, hear that feel.
32:38
And then everybody after the match was just like, that was so
32:41
good, like, wow. And that they were just like
32:45
commenting on my facial expressions and like I sold some
32:48
merch, which always means something, right.
32:51
Yeah. So it turned into a good thing
32:54
and all that was was patience of just listening, listening to
32:57
things that I was told by Jordan Sunny speedball burger of just
33:02
like you know the story. You just gotta be patient.
33:07
Don't rush the story, let it. You're building like everything
33:11
builds. And you know who's really,
33:14
really talented? That too.
33:15
And I didn't realize. I always watch this stuff and I
33:18
was always impressed by him. But seeing him live and and
33:21
talking to him and really picking his brain.
33:23
Joey, Joey, Janelle isn't incredible.
33:26
With that, there's for someone who can just when you talk about
33:29
slowing down and playing to a crowd, but still doing
33:32
everything you need to do in a match.
33:33
He's honestly one of the goats at it right now.
33:36
He's so good, he's so talented and I I think one of the coolest
33:40
things, and he is I I've heard him kind of talk about another
33:42
podcast and other forms of media, but the A EW thing for
33:46
him was like, he kind of went in with a mindset of like, I'm the
33:49
king of this shit. Then a EW kind of brought him
33:52
down and like humbled him a bit and then he was just like he had
33:54
to regroup. And this new version of Janella
33:56
Post a EW is the best version I've ever seen of him.
34:00
And yeah, he's he's on a tear. Yeah, he's so good.
34:04
So, so good. So the name Junie Underwood in
34:08
this character, Where did you pull from this?
34:10
How did this, how did this come out?
34:12
So Junie is is, is. Well, Junius is my name, my real
34:19
name, and when I moved up to Philly began just going by
34:26
Junie. And then Underwood is is kind of
34:31
an homage to Dax Harwood Cuz when I was young my dad was a
34:38
janitor for for a high school. And as a janitor you're usually
34:44
in charge of like helping with any events that happen at your
34:47
school on the weekends. And there was this small little
34:54
indie fed that I guess is no longer around.
34:56
I've looked and it's not a thing anymore.
34:58
It's Atlantic Coast Pro Wrestling A/C PW and at the time
35:04
there was these, there was this really cool wrestler by the name
35:07
of Casey McKnight and he was there early, he was stretching,
35:13
he was doing everything. And I was there early, and I
35:16
helped. I helped them to assemble the
35:18
ring. It was really cool.
35:19
I was only like, 9. And after we assembled the ring,
35:27
Casey McKnight was rolling around.
35:29
But also there were like, some of us kids in there.
35:31
And he was just, like, so confident.
35:34
And he was like, hey, like, I'll take care of your kid.
35:38
And it was more just like, he sat me on like the top rope.
35:41
Or he asked us what we wanted to do.
35:42
And I was like, I want to do a tornado GDT.
35:44
So he like put me on the top rope set himself up, did the
35:47
whole tornado DDT and that was Dax Harwood Casey McKnight and
35:57
and so I kind of was just like thinking as I was coming up with
36:00
a name I was like. You work Dax Harwood as a kid.
36:03
You bad? Basically, yeah.
36:06
You know who I wrestled as a kid in a fire in a in a Firehouse.
36:11
Engine room where no trucks were parked because it was the show
36:14
happened at our local high school.
36:15
My dad's a firefighter. And then after the show they all
36:18
went to the Firehouse to get away from like the public and
36:20
then go to the bar and drink at the Firehouse.
36:22
And my dad was like, I know the Firehouse.
36:24
I'll bring him in. And I I guess that he says like,
36:27
hey, my kids here is a huge wrestling fan.
36:29
Could anyone come out and talk to him?
36:31
And everyone kind of looked over the shoulders like, Bah, I kept
36:33
drinking and one guy got up from the bar and came out and hung
36:36
out with me and wrestled around me in the interim.
36:37
That was King Kong Bundy. It was awesome.
36:44
But that, yeah, that was it. I was like, OK, put in there
36:49
somewhere. And then I was like, I was
36:51
flirting around with the fire starter, getting in and I was
36:54
like Underwood, maybe adding the wood with the whole fire starter
36:59
thing. And then yeah, I just, I decided
37:04
on Underwood. And then my mom, the first thing
37:06
she said was like Carrie Underwood and I was like, shit.
37:13
You're ruined, but I'll keep it because I like it and I don't
37:18
know any other wrestler with. Joey, him, it said.
37:21
King Kong Bunny is the reason I'm billed from Atlantic City.
37:23
I love that guy. I miss him.
37:24
He was so nice, bro. So the crazy part about that
37:27
story too, is Sorry to cut you off there, but.
37:29
My, like, my house is like 2 blocks away.
37:32
And I was, I remember saying to him like all my cousins are are
37:35
never going to believe that I'm doing this.
37:36
And he's like, where are your cousins?
37:37
Were they at the show? I'm like out, they're at the
37:39
house because like my dad didn't want to bring a house like a
37:42
train full of my little cousins down because there was a lot of
37:44
us. And he's like, how far is it
37:46
walking distance? And my dad's like, yeah, it's
37:48
right around the corner and he's like, if you're cool with them
37:50
you can leave him here with me go get the rest of the kids.
37:53
And King and my dad went and got the rest of my cousins, and
37:55
there's a whole photo of us like two kids on each arm.
37:58
Want me on his shoulders? Three kids on his leg.
38:00
And he's like just playing with a bunch of kids after after a
38:03
show. And it's the guy who wrestled.
38:05
He was on Wrestle Mania, you know what I mean?
38:06
Like just he was, he was just a cool human being.
38:09
He's one of the earliest memories I've ever had.
38:11
Professional wrestling is King Kong Monday.
38:13
But yeah, man, have have you ever met since then?
38:17
Like becoming in the business? Have you ever met Dax at all?
38:20
Speedball wrestled Dax at a Wrestle Cade last year and I was
38:26
like so upset because I really wanted to do that.
38:30
He he's a match I want to have before he he he leaves.
38:33
But from what I've heard, I mean, him and him and Wheeler
38:37
are kind of on their like, last thing.
38:42
You know, yeah, they're they're both so, so good.
38:45
Actually, I'm going to bring you something now that I know that's
38:47
the thing I'm going to I I get those wrestling crates and I
38:51
have an FTR patch, Like a patch. I'll bring it to you on on on on
38:55
the Thursday show. Yeah.
38:57
I'd appreciate that. That's pretty cool I didn't so
38:59
that that there you go everyone the the Underwood is is a Dax
39:03
Harwood reference. I like that I'd I just lost my
39:08
train of thought there that that excited me so much Oh people
39:12
that you've worked so far in your career that you real that
39:16
stand out to you are moments that like.
39:19
Maybe a match that you had that was at that clicking moment
39:21
where you felt like you hit that next level.
39:22
You said wrestling speedball at the brewery was one of them.
39:26
What are some other moments in your career that you felt like
39:28
you you hit another level or a stride?
39:31
So the the first singles match that I had with MV Young was
39:38
actually pretty insane. I think that was my like 50, mid
39:47
50s in my matches. I'm currently at 88.
39:52
I had 88 as my limitless debut. Wow.
39:57
And that's all. Rustle You don't.
39:59
You don't rustle like someone who is under 100 matches in
40:01
their career so far. Thank you.
40:04
Well, what's interesting is that number, the whole numbers of
40:09
things is something that like kind of is interesting because I
40:13
know people who have been wrestling for like 4 to five
40:16
years that haven't had 88 matches.
40:20
Because they only wrestle inside their 25 mile bubble of their
40:23
house. But like, but like that.
40:24
That's my point of like I on September 5th of last year I had
40:32
my seventh match. It was hat when I debuted as the
40:35
fire starter Judy Underwood and so since then I'm now 88.
40:41
So I've had eighty. I've had 82 matches.
40:45
Do you keep a journal or a book? I I that was something that I
40:50
didn't know was a thing until I was almost a year and a half
40:53
into my commentary thing. And then I'm like I'm already
40:55
too far, too far gone at this point.
40:57
I'm not going to start it now. But the person I heard say that
41:00
they did that and it blew my mind that that he literally has
41:02
every single match he's ever done is Ace Austin.
41:05
And he almost lost in the house fire.
41:06
And he was done at everything in his house that he would have
41:09
lost. All that was the one thing that
41:10
he was like my journal, because that has.
41:13
From the day he trained on is all in there.
41:15
I'm like that is such a cool idea as the journal.
41:18
Like, it's so crazy. But that that that's been a big
41:23
thing for me. Like I try.
41:25
I make sure I write all of them down.
41:27
And sometimes if I have time, I'll write some little like
41:30
notes about it. But I I write them all down
41:38
because, like, I never know. There there might be some.
41:42
Like there's people that I see that I'm literally like, I think
41:45
I only remember this person because I wrestled them and that
41:50
tried to be me. It's just literally like you
41:52
sometimes you you, you see somebody and you wrestle them
41:55
and you don't see them for for a really long time.
41:59
And then you see them and you're like, I know you somehow and
42:03
you're like, that's right, I wrestled you.
42:07
That happens. But yeah, that that match with
42:13
MV Man, it was just really good. And then through that series
42:22
that I had with him, because I've had, I think I've wrestled
42:28
him more than I've wrestled anybody else at this.
42:30
Point Yeah, wrestled MV a lot. We had a singles match, which
42:36
was the first match I had at T2T, which was late March, early
42:41
April, and that was my 50th match.
42:45
And then I wrestled him singles in which he beat me, and then I
42:57
we had A tag match which I beat him, and then I beat him.
43:03
And then we had a third singles match in which we went to A time
43:09
limit draw. And then we did a two out of
43:12
three falls match in which I picked up the 1st fall, we
43:17
picked up the 2nd fall, picked up the 3rd fall.
43:19
That got reversed and I picked up the 3rd fall winning that
43:25
series. And then that kind of started
43:27
this little gimmick that I'm doing right now being the new
43:29
king of Pittsburgh. Yeah, you know what?
43:32
I I I always wanted to see done it as an angle.
43:35
Is the two out of three falls right?
43:38
But like, Envy's a big dude. So like the first time you you
43:41
square up against them, two out of three falls, 2 falls, bang,
43:44
you're done. Just smashes you and then you
43:47
build back up and then have that two or three first match he just
43:51
kicks. Just like first of all he just
43:52
destroys you and everyone's like this is going to happen again.
43:55
And then you sneak out a second fall, and that whole 3rd fall
43:57
you have the whole crowd eating it because the story of the. 22
44:01
out of three falls matches like him just destroying you and then
44:04
you slowly working it back. I just like that you don't
44:06
really see that very often in two or three falls.
44:08
Like it's almost like an Ironman match.
44:10
Like if you're a smart fan, you know the whole beginning of the
44:13
Ironman match means nothing. The last 5-10 minutes is where
44:17
the only target you have to really pay attention to.
44:19
It sucks to say that, but if you're a smart fan, that's kind
44:21
of like watching Brett Shawn and I'm a huge Shaw.
44:24
Everything, everything's good, but you only really have to
44:27
watch the the last segment but. Yeah, that's that's the two out
44:30
of three falls. I feel like everyone's like, oh,
44:32
you're gonna trade off for two and then the third is the one
44:34
you pay attention to. But if you have a long term
44:36
storytelling where the first one is like a completely a squash
44:39
two out of three falls, I was like, what?
44:41
Like, you don't see that very often.
44:42
Yeah. And then it gets built up.
44:44
Yeah. Yeah.
44:45
I I've, I've thought of a bunch of different stories for two out
44:49
of three falls matches, because that kind of is what I wanted.
44:51
I want that to be a thing of mine for sure of just having two
44:55
and three Falls matches because I like them.
44:59
I'm surprisingly like I enjoy longer matches to just like hey.
45:07
Joey's on the same page as me, but I I definitely want that to
45:18
be a part of my my image of just be a two out of three falls guy.
45:23
And a lot of that, I do think, is probably because I watched a
45:26
lot of Motor City machine guns growing up.
45:30
I think they've had easily the best 2O3 Falls matches.
45:39
Just recently Bullet Club Gold and F TR2O3 was crazy.
45:45
That match was awesome. One of my one of my favorite
45:51
matches is 2O3 Falls Motor City versus Generation May.
46:01
That match was awesome. Two out of three falls Motor
46:05
City versus Beer Money. You haven't seen any of these.
46:10
You should. You should go back and.
46:12
They're really good, of course. The Johnny Gargano Adam called
46:16
two out of three falls, the Paul London versus Brian Danielson of
46:25
ROH. That match was awesome.
46:29
Paul London. Also great human.
46:31
Don't know if you've ever gotten a chance.
46:33
No, I've never met him. I I did a seminar with him and
46:36
I've. I met.
46:37
I met Kendrick. He's awesome.
46:39
I believe it kept in good touch with like Paul London, like him,
46:44
and I message back and forth every so often.
46:46
I check in on him and it's really cool.
46:49
He he's really sweet, really cool dude.
46:51
I've only ever had one bad experience.
46:53
Meeting somebody, every person ever got a chance to work with.
46:56
Like for a while there I was helping with this promotion.
46:58
I was helping them do their meet and greets, and I would sit with
47:00
talents for three or four hours and just hang out with them.
47:03
Everyone I ever met was so dope. Like, even people.
47:05
I was like, oh, this is going to be really like a I'm like kind
47:08
of intimidated. I'm like, are they going to be
47:09
in character the whole time? And they were super, like,
47:11
everyone was super cool, right? Yeah.
47:13
No, there's always, there's always people that really do
47:16
surprise you. Like, I have a really, really
47:18
fond memory of Jake's something because it was the first I I was
47:24
a driver for this new Japan show a little over a year ago.
47:31
I hadn't even debuted yet, I don't think and like, even in
47:35
like a battle royal. But I drove Jake something and
47:40
we were at this, like either Target or Walmart.
47:43
I couldn't. I can't remember which one.
47:45
Same thing. Yeah, and this, this guy looks
47:52
at Jake something and it's like, wow, you're huge.
47:57
And Jake's like, thank you. And he's like, what do you do?
47:59
And he's like, I'm a wrestler and he was just like, what are
48:04
you hanging around with these guys for?
48:05
Like me, I'm like small and he's like, you look like a wrestler,
48:09
but they don't. And I'm like, that's me and what
48:14
we leave. And Jake goes, Jake literally
48:18
goes, don't worry about that. And I'm like, yeah, like it.
48:25
And whenever he said it, I was like, yeah, of course he like,
48:28
you could say that. But then like, we got in the car
48:30
and he was like, no, like, for real.
48:32
Like you're young, you're just now starting.
48:36
There's going to be a point where you start looking like a
48:39
wrestler and that doesn't even mean you, you're super jacked.
48:43
Like, I think now I've gotten to this point, when I walk into a
48:46
place most people know, like I I give that energy now of like I
48:52
have. I have kind of stepped into my
48:54
own and like know where I'm at and what I'm doing.
48:58
To bring them up again from the beginning, you know, who is that
49:01
embodiment? Jordan.
49:03
Yeah, Jordan was the scrawniest. Dude, no like 0.
49:06
Confidence. And then like a lot of younger
49:09
wrestlers who like are young and they can't put the muscle on,
49:11
they can't put the size. And I'm like study Jordan, like
49:14
just stick with it. And right now your body's not
49:16
gonna develop cuz you're young and it's hard to put muscle mass
49:18
on, but learn your craft so when your body catches up,
49:22
everything's gonna fall in the place for you.
49:24
And he's the perfect example of that.
49:26
Oh, for sure. And like, I think it's just, I
49:29
don't know, Jake, Jake saying stuff like that of just like
49:33
don't worry about what the people are saying.
49:35
It is something that is commonly said.
49:38
But it just felt different. It it, it was one of those, like
49:40
I really needed to hear that at that time.
49:42
And so I always have like a super fond memory of Jake, of
49:47
like, wow, like that guy was really sweet.
49:49
Like, he was really cool, dude. Mike and Maria Bennett for me
49:52
were the was a huge turning point of like how to take
49:55
yourself seriously in this business and and fight for what
49:57
you want. Yeah, but yeah, just having,
50:05
having, having people in this business, people that you see
50:09
and look up to, and you get to have a conversation with them.
50:13
And sometimes that's like, all you really need to hear.
50:16
Is this something decent from them.
50:21
Yeah, like Adam, Adam Priest on Saturday.
50:23
Like, I was stressing out, dude, because I left my wrestling
50:26
shoes in Pittsburgh. I was in Maine and I was like,
50:31
oh, my God, I left my shoes in Pittsburgh.
50:34
I got here at 6:30. I'm kind of late.
50:38
Like, obviously they all understood why I was late
50:41
because picking up two stars. But like, you know, all these
50:46
things were kind of going wrong. But after the match, Adam Priest
50:49
was like, hey, like, can I talk to you?
50:51
And I was like, yeah. And he was just like, you're
50:54
really good. And I'm like, thank you.
50:57
Like, like just that. Like you're pulling me aside and
50:59
just being like you're, you're good.
51:01
I can see it. Like I.
51:03
And there was a point where we were calling the match and
51:06
somebody walked by and was like, Jimmy's the man.
51:09
And Adam Priest was just like, I can tell I can.
51:12
I can see the way he calls this, like the way he's calling this
51:15
match. I can tell he's good.
51:16
And so just like having that moment of, like, all this stuff
51:20
is kind of going wrong, but then I do the match.
51:24
I do really well. And then have that kind of full
51:28
circle of like, hey, hey kid, like you're doing great.
51:33
Like, yeah, that's awesome. Well, we are at that 50 minute
51:36
mark. If anyone has any questions in
51:37
the chat, please get them in. And I don't want to keep this
51:40
too too long. I'm having an absolute blast,
51:42
bro. I've learned so much about you.
51:44
I hope people learn some things here too.
51:45
We have one thing in the chat here, Joey said.
51:47
Speaking of doing what you want. Don't listen to old F's like me,
51:51
fucks like me who aren't. Big into the Flippy stuff but do
51:55
what works for you. If you do something flashy that
51:58
costs the crowd, make a make a mental no.
52:00
I agree. The flippy stuff is is is good,
52:03
right? To an extent.
52:04
That's the style of wrestling that's getting over now.
52:06
But like I said, if, if, if you can incorporate the Flippy with
52:09
the storytelling and crowd work like the old school people like,
52:12
I think that's where you meet your perfect, your imperfect
52:14
match and and and that and I think that's where you find the
52:17
two come together very nicely. I'll have one last question here
52:21
that we'll answer and if anything pops in the chat will
52:23
end with that. But the biggest thing that will
52:26
end with is the the stable. I think the biggest thing that I
52:29
I don't, I don't think enough people are doing on the road now
52:32
is and I I always credit it for me anyway the the people who I
52:36
start seeing it do with the best and they've literally taken over
52:39
the PW I500 with it and they're helping each other grow and
52:42
getting themselves out there and they're doing storylines that
52:45
cross promote get go cross promotions.
52:47
The goons with Killian Mcmurphy big dust.
52:50
All those guys just asked Miles morale, like all of them,
52:52
they're just killing it. But they have this Erica Lee
52:55
part of that. But they have this thing where
52:57
their friends, it's almost like an independent click where their
53:00
friends, they help each other through their good times, help
53:03
each other through their bad times, but also help each other
53:05
get booked and also put together storylines that are compelling
53:08
that it's good enough that other promotions are willing to say,
53:10
well, we'll take that storyline too and bring it here.
53:13
And you guys are doing that with the with the the Lost Boys.
53:16
The Lost Boys are a stable of really young.
53:19
Hungry talent who are sticking together.
53:21
Even even if you guys show up at a place and you're not the Lost
53:24
Boys and you work separate angles and you all do your own
53:27
character, the idea of what the Lost Boys are of traveling
53:30
together, being there for each other, is really important.
53:32
How did that come about? How did the name come about?
53:35
And how important to you is that stable of the Lost Boys?
53:42
Great questions. The so whenever it started Ethan
53:52
and I, we kind of knew we wanted to be A tag team.
53:57
We just we clicked very early on in training and then finally we
54:06
got to this point where you know we we debuted for Progress and
54:09
Magic. We didn't have a name yet.
54:11
We were just Judy Underwood and Ethan wasn't even Ethan Promise
54:17
at that point. He went by Ethan Novo, which I
54:19
think he literally only did once.
54:23
But watching the match back, we like listen to commentary and
54:29
straight up whenever we come out commentary goes these boys look
54:33
lost and we were like you might be on to something.
54:40
And I always, I've always been that kind of kid kind of grungy
54:45
a little. Like I I like that kind of
54:48
darker stuff. So like I love the lost voice.
54:51
Like the the vovy. Obviously Peter Pan was always a
54:56
big influence of mine. I've I've enjoyed Peter Pan a
55:00
lot. You.
55:01
Have a little Peter Pan look going on.
55:03
Well The thing is I I have played Peter Pan in a couple of
55:08
thing anyway I have had, I have also been Peter Pan for
55:11
Halloween on multiple occasions. But we kind of just it felt like
55:18
it clicked because we didn't have a home promotion.
55:21
We had nothing that like was a home and we were always
55:24
traveling from point A to point B trying to just get something
55:28
going. And so there was literally just
55:32
a point where like we all just kind of felt like we were like
55:34
lost, but we just had each other.
55:36
And Ryan joined us, like because Ryan trained with us as well.
55:45
You're like Ryan's going to all these places with us and then
55:48
Miles is going to all these places with us.
55:51
So like, I think this is the group.
55:56
Like this is the, this is the the group.
55:58
And sometimes it's a little difficult because they're
56:01
they're still living regular life.
56:04
Like they're all three in school in some way, shape or form.
56:08
Ryan is a lawyer. Miles and Ethan are in college.
56:16
So a lot of it does kind of feel like I'm the the, the, the guy
56:20
kind of kind of being on his own and doing his thing.
56:23
And then But when we are together, it is it.
56:28
It's insane. Like literally the energy that
56:30
all four of us have when we're together.
56:33
It's unmatched. Like, I I don't know if I've
56:35
ever felt like more at home. Like when us four are just
56:42
chilling, like going on a car ride, going to Magic, going to
56:48
wherever. And we're just laughing and you
56:53
know we're we're we're hoping for this big opportunity that
57:00
may be coming up that I'll tell you, I'll tell you more about
57:03
when we're not live that could be really helpful for us as a as
57:08
a stable and some people don't think we should be a stable,
57:11
some promoters are. Strongly disagree I I do too.
57:14
Some promoters are like you should split up.
57:17
There's too many of you because if if 1/2 of you have to pull
57:21
off the show, the other half also has to pull off the show.
57:23
Well, sometimes that's not the case.
57:26
But in some cases it's like, hey, sorry, this is the, this is
57:31
the potential issue. But that's kind of their thought
57:36
of like Ethan and Junie get pulled off the show, Ryan Miles
57:41
has to get pulled off the show. And I was like, no, no, no.
57:43
That doesn't have to always happen.
57:45
Like if we for whatever reason get booked at GCW and Ryan Miles
57:50
is booked for this other indie, like they don't have to to pull
57:54
off of that show just because we're not going.
57:56
Like we're supporting them and they're supporting us.
57:59
That's just kind of the case. And sometimes if we need to do
58:03
stuff and all four of us need to do it, then sure, maybe all four
58:06
of us have to pull off that show.
58:08
And maybe that's not a good time.
58:10
And hopefully we can have a conversation about it and try to
58:15
figure out a way that we can work it all out.
58:18
Because at the end of the day like we have to we have to think
58:21
about like what's going to be the most beneficial, what's
58:26
going to like really help us and and and propel us so that we can
58:31
kind of get what we want out of this thing.
58:34
And that is just tell tell stories in front of as many
58:37
people as possible and we want to do it together.
58:39
Like we really do like as much as like I like if if you look at
58:44
match wise I've had over 30 matches more than the other lost
58:47
boys. Like I'm I'm moving, moving,
58:51
moving, moving. But I know they support me so
58:54
much and I support them with every opportunity that they get
58:57
as well. But like, I've even told them I
59:02
was like, yeah, having all these matches is cool, but like, I do
59:05
wish y'all were with me, like things like that.
59:07
Like I I genuinely am. Like it's so easy for us to just
59:13
be a group. Like, like, I don't know, when
59:16
we're together, it is just so easy for us.
59:18
To be well, here's a here's a possible point.
59:20
And this, I think, makes the the stable to me.
59:24
What I, which I love about the stable and the reason I I
59:26
gravitate to it, is because. When you go to a show and you
59:31
travel and you're by yourself and you're in a locker room and
59:33
you may not know many people or you may not have that
59:35
comfortability. When you roll up in a car full
59:37
of people and you like and you roll up to a place and there's
59:40
already four or five of yous that are comfortable with each
59:43
other and you go into a show, I feel you perform differently.
59:47
When you're with your boys who are also on the show, are not
59:50
even on the show but being there, then you would be if you
59:52
just showed up by yourself and you have to work.
59:54
And and and I've seen you perform by yourself or maybe
59:58
with one other member, but then I've seen you perform at that
1:00:00
show with all four years were there and you you said you're
1:00:04
you're 30 matches ahead of the other four.
1:00:06
But all every member of that stable, even though they weren't
1:00:09
billed as The Lost Boys, all went out there and were
1:00:13
memorable. For every, every single one of
1:00:16
them left that show and everyone's like, yo, I'm gonna
1:00:17
remember you, you were the one who was the crazy tie on your
1:00:20
thing, crazy going, you know, I mean, like, everyone stood out
1:00:23
in that stable. And I think that's what's also
1:00:25
important in this business because this, this business is
1:00:28
not just hard on your body and not hard on the travel, but like
1:00:31
mentally, if you don't have a friend in this business or you
1:00:33
don't have someone you can like, vent to and just be like, I'm
1:00:36
frustrated, I'm pissed. I want to quit and those friends
1:00:39
to be like, yo, stay together, let's do this.
1:00:42
That's that's why this stable I think is really good because you
1:00:44
can just see without even me talking, you guys are knowing
1:00:48
about what you talk about in the car on the way there, you can
1:00:50
see that you guys lift each other up and it's it's very
1:00:53
important. And the idea of the name Lost
1:00:55
Boys, that's a thing in the in the in the storybooks and the
1:00:58
Disney movies that like, they stand out because every single
1:01:01
member of the Lost Boys, you watch them.
1:01:02
Like I can relate to that character because he has a look
1:01:04
that I like or this one represents this or this one
1:01:06
represents that. And you guys all have that
1:01:09
really youthful appearance and is like never get old, stay
1:01:12
young at heart, let's have fun. And I don't know, that's what I
1:01:14
get out of the group. I hope that's right.
1:01:16
I hope that's what you're trying for, but yeah.
1:01:18
I mean it's it's funny because we all kind of have this we
1:01:22
we've been compared to the Ninja Turtles a little bit like I'm
1:01:29
very much Raphael, like I I can very much be the Omega.
1:01:32
But at the same time I'm the Big Brother.
1:01:34
Like I will go to that for all three of them fast food and they
1:01:37
can blink and that's like and. Like Ethan has that natural
1:01:41
ability to talk to people very Leonardo, Like he's just has
1:01:47
that. And then Ryan and Miles kind of
1:01:51
flip flop between Donatello and Ryan is one of the funniest
1:01:55
people I've ever met in my life. But he's also one of the
1:01:57
smartest people I've ever met in my life and and so it's just
1:02:00
like and then Miles he he can be similar.
1:02:04
His like, it's just they they kind of flip flop between Mikey
1:02:08
and and Donatella A lot. I'm a I'm a Casey Jones guy.
1:02:11
That's my guy. I always grew up like, who's
1:02:13
your favorite turtle? I'm like Casey.
1:02:14
Casey. But Casey Jones's favorite
1:02:18
turtle would be Raphael. So I got you dog.
1:02:20
Yeah, they they they they beef and they vent.
1:02:25
But they make each other better at the end of the day.
1:02:28
And so like it it it's a really cool thing And I think one of my
1:02:32
favorite things is like our little quote that we did, which
1:02:34
is like a super easy go home line if like one thinks for
1:02:36
certain law schools never die. Like, I think that's sick.
1:02:41
And you can't kill these either, because your heart, your heart
1:02:43
is like you said, your minds are stronger than your bodies.
1:02:45
Minds is stronger than our bodies.
1:02:47
Yeah, it's insane. And honestly, I feel like that's
1:02:51
been like a story we've been, like, unintentionally telling in
1:02:53
a lot of our matches, yeah. You'll see that like.
1:02:57
Soon. Hopefully with like some of the
1:02:58
matches that just haven't been. Definitely if you watch any of
1:03:02
the captured Lightning matches like Through Burger with his
1:03:04
Worldwide Dojo. If you haven't watched our
1:03:10
Little Lost Boys saga, you should.
1:03:13
It's a singles match between Miles and Ethan, and then A tag
1:03:16
match with me and Ryan versus Miles and Ethan.
1:03:21
And then? The fate of four way between all
1:03:24
four of us. It's kind of like the the
1:03:27
prequel, the kind of the the origin story of the Lost Voice I
1:03:31
guess. Like as a whole, specifically
1:03:35
the Lost Boys with their 4th member.
1:03:39
It's that's the origin and that's through captioned
1:03:42
Lightning. So lots of that.
1:03:44
You should that another thing too.
1:03:46
We'll kind of end here. I'm going to ask you real quick,
1:03:48
what do you want to plug or you want to get out?
1:03:49
We'll get you out of here, but please go if you are looking to
1:03:53
be in this business, whether you want to be commentary or
1:03:56
wrestler, even if you're like hey, I want to somehow be a part
1:03:59
of this. But I don't think wrestling's
1:04:00
for me. We always need cameraman, we
1:04:02
need graphic designers. We need people that there's so
1:04:04
many avenues and so many things you can do in a business or an
1:04:07
industry or a field that you may not even think you'd be valued
1:04:10
in but you would highly be valued in.
1:04:12
But a great place. If you're in the Pennsylvania
1:04:15
area, the the the Philadelphia area, hit up the Worldwide Dojo
1:04:18
that the talent that is there right now and the people that
1:04:21
are in that school are absolutely unbelievable.
1:04:23
I've been fortunate enough to interview a few of them already
1:04:26
on this podcast and that's I'm just scratching the surface.
1:04:28
There's so many talented people there and it just if you haven't
1:04:33
been there at all when you walk in the history of that building
1:04:37
like when you train there and you're working there you're like
1:04:39
man, the people who have come before me who have stepped in
1:04:43
these walls. If these walls can talk man that
1:04:47
that's got a on the wall. Yeah.
1:04:50
Yeah it's it's it's it's I I always joke around I'm like if I
1:04:53
was ever a student here I'd like Cheeseburger take my photo down
1:04:55
because you see who else is up there.
1:04:57
I don't belong to me here like, but it's please hit up the
1:05:01
Worldwide Dojo like you said on their YouTube channel.
1:05:04
They are doing a lot of stuff that you can watch and support.
1:05:07
They they are a an amazing school and promotion and they're
1:05:11
pumping out just amazing talent. Very good.
1:05:14
It's a very good time. Anything else you want to plug
1:05:17
or get out before we get out of here, Judy?
1:05:19
No, I mean if if you want to buy any merch, Brain Buster, the
1:05:24
link is below, link is below. And if you don't want to use the
1:05:29
link and you just want to go on Brain Buster, you can just type
1:05:31
in Judy Underwood. You can also type in the Lost
1:05:33
Boys and Lost Boys merch will come up as well.
1:05:39
And then, yeah, my Twitter handle.
1:05:42
Well, my ex handle now I don't know.
1:05:45
Whatever handle. Usually it's Junie Underwood Pro
1:05:50
or Junie Underwood FS Pro. It's one of the two, yeah.
1:05:55
So thank you very much for having me all.
1:05:57
Thank you so much for doing this.
1:05:58
Man, I hope. I like I said, I think this is
1:06:00
really cool. We have to learn a lot about
1:06:01
you. If you are free this this month
1:06:04
on the 17th, come out to Pilgru Brewing Company.
1:06:07
Tickets are on sale right now. Fighter Tainment 2 already
1:06:10
announced Speedball, Mike Bailey and me.
1:06:17
The three announcements I'm sure, I'm sure more to come.
1:06:20
Last time we had, we had some really, really fun names.
1:06:23
There really were cool people come out hang out have some good
1:06:25
beers. It's it is an absolute blast.
1:06:28
Get there early because it it is shoulder to shoulder and you
1:06:31
will have an absolute. I'm telling you're going to have
1:06:33
a really good time. Like I said, any other shows
1:06:36
coming up, the people can come see you at.
1:06:40
I wish I would have known to have my notepad out because
1:06:42
maybe this Friday at the Sanctuary.
1:06:45
Oh yeah, No. Friday at the Sanctuary, most
1:06:48
likely. That is.
1:06:49
That is most likely. I'm trying to.
1:06:51
I do want to get up there. I really wanted to get there
1:06:54
someday so that I could wrestle Ricky because that is a match
1:06:57
that I think would kind of help both of us out a whole lot
1:07:01
because we, Ricky, wrestled an impromptu match with Frankie
1:07:05
Picard, which is really entertaining.
1:07:10
But yeah, then I oh. This month, April 19th, Red Rose
1:07:17
rumble in Lancaster at Oh yeah, at the Baseball field.
1:07:21
Yes, I'm trying to remember that the name of the three Legacies,
1:07:27
even though 3 Legacies. Wrestling Red Rose Rumble.
1:07:30
But there's the it's it's not it's not Barnstormers.
1:07:33
Maybe it is Barnstormer the the baseball team.
1:07:37
Yeah. That show is going to be
1:07:41
instinct. We're going to have.
1:07:43
They're going to have the crowning of the first ever 3
1:07:46
Legacies wrestling champ. I get to have a sweet Fatal 4
1:07:50
way match against Prince Piranha, Monta, Kea and Facade.
1:07:58
Yeah, that's going to be a really sick match.
1:08:02
And yes, it's going to be really fun.
1:08:03
It's a lot of cool stuff. Like Shannon Moore is going to
1:08:05
be there, Dirty Dango Heath and Rhino.
1:08:10
Like, there's going to be a lot of really cool names.
1:08:12
I think it's Heath and Rhino versus South Phillies.
1:08:14
Finest, I believe in attack, yeah.
1:08:16
For sure. And then, yeah, and Ricardo is
1:08:20
just killing it with three legacies.
1:08:22
Have you seen the attendance in that places?
1:08:24
They've been pointed out. They're killing it.
1:08:27
I've I've been very lucky to to have become a regular at those.
1:08:32
Yeah, if I still had a car I would have definitely been
1:08:35
putting my name in to try to get some work there.
1:08:37
But unfortunately I am out of a vehicle and I am stuck in these
1:08:40
four walls. I can't travel anywhere, but if
1:08:42
I can find a ride I will definitely come out and support
1:08:44
and come and see the show. We'll have to.
1:08:46
We'll have to figure that out. But everybody that gets a chance
1:08:50
to for sure like, all right, well listen, that's going to do
1:08:56
it for the ABJ podcast episode 72.
1:08:59
We are back on Thursday at 7:00 o'clock and things are going to
1:09:05
get weird and things are going to get creamy because the leader
1:09:08
of the creamy world order, Stan Styles, will be on the podcast
1:09:14
and then breaking news. Now coming back on Monday the
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7th Syrian Rain will be on the podcast Tuesday 1/2 of the
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stepdads, Wade Kruger. And then on Thursday the 10th
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we're going to get big with Big Dan Champion coming on, drinking
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some beers, talking some pro wrestling.
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So that's what to expect the this week and then all of next
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week. So we have a lot of cool guests,
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lot of big names waiting to see who else is coming on this
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month. It's it's, it's insane.
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And then I have a whole list full of people for the next
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month or two. I'm I'm really excited with the
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way this podcast is going. If you can support the Patreon
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is there right now Patreon just general support but it helps
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keep the lights on to pay for some things like stream yard and
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Canva that help things going. Tshirts and merch are available
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for my myself as well too. But please support my guests,
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follow on all social media and we're going to keep this train
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roll on. The ABJ podcast is left the
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station and we're we're off to grow.
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If you are watching this or listening to this on any
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platform try to jump over to the YouTube side.
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I'm about halfway when it comes to my viewership to get
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monetized, and we're still on that quest for 1K followers.
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And if you want to listen to the podcast in your car, follow us
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on all major podcast platforms. Spotify, Apple, Google,
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iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, we're on all of it.
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Leave a review. Hitting a like and a share
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button on piece of content that people put their work into cost
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you nothing. But it literally can change
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someone's life because the more eyes on stuff, it helps more
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than you know. And that just any that's any
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content. If a wrestler posts a clip,
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share it because you never know who's going to see it and it
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can. It can help tremendously.
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But that's going to do it for the ABJ Podcast.
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We'll be back, like I said on Thursday, but here's some music
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by the Converse kid. We'll see you next time.