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- 0:12Speaker 1: Down the line and fair rolling all the way towards
- 0:15Speaker 1: the corner.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Julio.
- 0:16Speaker 1: It takes his time. He's touching home. He's waving home, Naylor.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Naylor was slowing down. Now puts down the gas pedal.
- 0:22Speaker 1: He is safe at home. Two runs in for the
- 0:28Speaker 1: ms A Rosarina into second three.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Nothing that plays.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Was a little closer at home than it looked like
- 0:36Speaker 1: it would be for a moment.
- 0:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're gonna challenge this. You see who
- 0:40Speaker 4: we had waving in? Josh Now, Ye, he was slowing up.
- 0:44Speaker 4: So car does the third base coach waving him in?
- 0:46Speaker 4: Did he get that left hand underneath Dingla's glove? Oh,
- 0:52Speaker 4: it's gonna be close.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Naylor, who threw his sliding mitt as he was holding it,
- 0:58Speaker 1: not wearing it.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's my favorite.
- 1:04Speaker 5: He will do anything.
- 1:06Speaker 3: He is a different cat, do anything. Dingler eight, Your baby.
- 1:11Speaker 3: What I wanted to hear from Ryan Roland Smith, Alley
- 1:14Speaker 3: and Long Dylan Dingler eight, your baby.
- 1:18Speaker 5: He really failed us, didn't he.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't be the first time.
- 1:23Speaker 3: That time you were supposed to pick me up at
- 1:25Speaker 3: the airport.
- 1:25Speaker 5: Oh he left you there for days?
- 1:27Speaker 3: Yeah, for days.
- 1:28Speaker 2: I was there for eighteen days waiting for him a
- 1:31Speaker 2: long time. Good morning, welcome to our second hour here
- 1:35Speaker 2: on this Monday morning.
- 1:36Speaker 3: Hope you all had a great weekend out there.
- 1:39Speaker 2: It is Ashley Ryan and Chuck Powell with you Sports
- 1:41Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three Kate j r FM. Our
- 1:44Speaker 2: Seahawks one series continues later on today at eight o'clock.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Jackson Bevans, a podcasting fame, will be joining us today.
- 1:52Speaker 2: He's always part of our Seahawks one series. Can't wait
- 1:54Speaker 2: to find out which player he wants to break.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Down for one entire interview. We'll do that today at
- 1:59Speaker 3: eight o'clock.
- 2:01Speaker 2: We also have NBA Finals to discuss and more. Let
- 2:04Speaker 2: me first though, get to your headlines. They are brought
- 2:06Speaker 2: to you by Frostbrewed Corps like Choose Chill. Yeah, we
- 2:10Speaker 2: did win that wacky thing on Saturday, but the Mariners
- 2:14Speaker 2: lost Friday and Sunday against the Detroit Tigers, including a
- 2:18Speaker 2: five to four loss yesterday.
- 2:20Speaker 3: That, frankly, that's just a game you're not supposed to lose.
- 2:23Speaker 5: I agreed.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And so the team at thirty four and thirty two
- 2:27Speaker 2: gets ready to head to Baltimore, Maryland for a game
- 2:30Speaker 2: tonight three thirty five first pitch, one of four games
- 2:35Speaker 2: that are going to take up that they play pretty
- 2:37Speaker 2: much at the same time every day for the next
- 2:38Speaker 2: four days. So we got that whole three thirty to
- 2:43Speaker 2: six thirty block that is going to dominate our week
- 2:46Speaker 2: here as Mariner fans, and so that gets started tonight.
- 2:50Speaker 2: It'll be Emerson Hancock going up against Chris Bassett, who
- 2:54Speaker 2: has not been good this year, so let's take advantage.
- 2:57Speaker 2: First pitch at three thirty five. Not good to Yeah,
- 3:01Speaker 2: he's not left handed.
- 3:02Speaker 3: That's good.
- 3:02Speaker 5: Okay, we'll see things are looking up already.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Yeah, three of the four starters we're gonna face right handed.
- 3:09Speaker 5: Because everyone figured out how good we are hitting lefties.
- 3:12Speaker 3: College World Series.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Texas wins over Oregon last night and a thriller. They
- 3:17Speaker 2: punched their ticket to the College World Series. So that's
- 3:19Speaker 2: now occupied.
- 3:20Speaker 3: The eight seats.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Six are occupied Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Ole, Miss Troy,
- 3:26Speaker 2: how about Troy getting in there? And West Virginia. Meanwhile,
- 3:30Speaker 2: there'll be two more spots decided today. There was rain
- 3:35Speaker 2: yesterday that washed out Kansas and Oklahoma, also Saint John's
- 3:39Speaker 2: and Alabama, So come hell or high water, they will
- 3:43Speaker 2: finish their series. They'll play their scheduled to play a
- 3:46Speaker 2: game and a half both of them today, So as
- 3:48Speaker 2: long as rain doesn't wash anything out again today, we
- 3:51Speaker 2: will know our eight teams in the.
- 3:53Speaker 3: College World Series by the end of the day.
- 3:56Speaker 2: NBA Finals Game three tonight, five point thirty is your
- 3:59Speaker 2: tip the New York Knicks can go up three to oh.
- 4:01Speaker 2: They're saying that ticket prices minimum ticket price to get
- 4:05Speaker 2: into this game tonight at Madison Square Garden six thousand dollars.
- 4:09Speaker 5: It's ridiculous.
- 4:10Speaker 6: And then they also have decided that you can't, as
- 4:13Speaker 6: New York fans, hang out outside the stadium and watch
- 4:17Speaker 6: or like have your party there because the President's going tonight.
- 4:20Speaker 5: So it's too much of a security risk.
- 4:22Speaker 3: You know what, I'm just gonna buy ten tickets.
- 4:23Speaker 5: Ye might as well, you know.
- 4:25Speaker 3: You know that's really out to the listeners.
- 4:27Speaker 2: And yeah, that's the crazy Who cares if you can't
- 4:29Speaker 2: make it to New York by five point thirty?
- 4:31Speaker 3: I mean, I don't care. It's just money.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Why don't we just get a private jet?
- 4:35Speaker 3: Stanley Cup Final Game four tomorrow?
- 4:37Speaker 2: Wow, are they raving about this this series? Good night,
- 4:41Speaker 2: Carolina is down two to one to Las Vegas. They'll
- 4:44Speaker 2: try to even things up against the good nights tonight
- 4:47Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. That's where the storm are as well.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Taken on the aces at seven o'clock tonight. And yes,
- 4:55Speaker 2: this is World Cup week.
- 4:57Speaker 3: It is here.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I know how beloved and treasured that this is for
- 5:03Speaker 2: soccer fans, football fans here in the Pacific Northwest. And
- 5:07Speaker 2: I'm just gonna vow right now, Ashley, I'm gonna do
- 5:10Speaker 2: my very best to make this month as wonderful as
- 5:15Speaker 2: I possibly can.
- 5:17Speaker 5: You can do it. I have faith in you.
- 5:18Speaker 3: We're gonna try. I really don't know what to say.
- 5:21Speaker 3: The nice thing.
- 5:22Speaker 6: About World Cup is, you know what what it is,
- 5:25Speaker 6: right We know it's one tournament.
- 5:26Speaker 5: So it's not like we're gonna have World Cup and.
- 5:28Speaker 6: Then there's some extra little matches on the side that
- 5:30Speaker 6: we don't know what they are. You're just you're just
- 5:33Speaker 6: trying to win. Just watching games, Yeah, watching wins.
- 5:38Speaker 5: That's it.
- 5:38Speaker 2: I honestly mean this. I'm not a soccer fan. I
- 5:42Speaker 2: want all soccer.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Fans they can hear my voice right now, to have
- 5:45Speaker 3: the time of their life. And I really mean that
- 5:47Speaker 3: they will.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Yeah, for the next month, and especially our own little
- 5:51Speaker 2: soccer darlings, anders Hurst and sweet Cherubs. Oh those sweet, young,
- 5:56Speaker 2: impressionable boys.
- 5:58Speaker 3: All right, well, let's get into it.
- 6:01Speaker 2: I've already warned that what we were going to discuss
- 6:04Speaker 2: here in this segment, and it's going to be our closer,
- 6:07Speaker 2: Andres Munos, who blew his fifth save of the season yesterday.
- 6:12Speaker 2: He also has a three and four record. Because of
- 6:16Speaker 2: that loss yesterday to the Detroit Tigers. I've had a
- 6:20Speaker 2: few people reach out and say, are you finally going
- 6:23Speaker 2: to come around? I mean, I have Greg Bell pretty
- 6:24Speaker 2: much every time I leave the studio now saying still
- 6:27Speaker 2: believe in Munos, And I do.
- 6:32Speaker 6: Know.
- 6:33Speaker 3: I know it sounds crazy. I'm not being.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Stubborn about this. I'm really not. And I love Andres.
- 6:39Speaker 2: He's one of the nicest human beings. But it has
- 6:41Speaker 2: nothing to do My analysis has nothing to do with
- 6:44Speaker 2: how nice a person that I think he is. Even yesterday,
- 6:48Speaker 2: I saw a guy throwing his fastball as hard.
- 6:50Speaker 3: As ever one hundred and one hundred and two miles prior.
- 6:53Speaker 2: He just couldn't locate it yesterday, and I think that
- 6:56Speaker 2: has everything to do with the fact that he's being
- 6:59Speaker 2: pitched so infrequently this year, and by his own demands,
- 7:04Speaker 2: his own please, he.
- 7:05Speaker 5: Has said straight out of his mouth, I want to
- 7:07Speaker 5: pitch more.
- 7:09Speaker 3: He's not need to pitching enough.
- 7:12Speaker 2: And so when you go five and a half days
- 7:16Speaker 2: without him seeing the mound, without seeing live action, and
- 7:20Speaker 2: he doesn't have his command at this stage, should we
- 7:23Speaker 2: be all that surprised by it? I mean, this is
- 7:27Speaker 2: an organization that has ton tons of data. They are
- 7:31Speaker 2: an analytics driven organization, and I think they've softened on
- 7:34Speaker 2: that in the last couple of years. The hiring of
- 7:36Speaker 2: Dan Wilson was a gesture of we're softening on analytics.
- 7:41Speaker 2: We've got to marry the two. As Bucky and I
- 7:43Speaker 2: have said since we started doing this show together, I
- 7:46Speaker 2: don't dislike analytics. I love analytics. I love what they've
- 7:49Speaker 2: done for the game. But anybody that married themselves to
- 7:52Speaker 2: them entirely is a fool, and anybody that won't use
- 7:57Speaker 2: them is a fool. And so right now, twenty twenty six,
- 8:01Speaker 2: you better being being marrying the two principles, not being
- 8:05Speaker 2: caught up in analytics, and yet make sure that you
- 8:09Speaker 2: are using them. Otherwise you're at a huge disadvantage. Every
- 8:12Speaker 2: single night, Well, here is an organization driven by this.
- 8:16Speaker 2: They're an analytics driven organization, and yet what we're watching
- 8:23Speaker 2: unfold is head scratching at best and almost hair pulling
- 8:28Speaker 2: for me that here's this isn't difficult data to find.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I don't need a nerd to look this up for me.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Andre's Munos does not do well when he's rested for
- 8:38Speaker 2: too long, by his own admission, and maybe Ashley, maybe
- 8:44Speaker 2: it is. Maybe it's now mental, maybe it's psychological with him.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Maybe he thinks he can't perform that way, and shame
- 8:50Speaker 2: on Andre's for that. He's got to get tougher, he's
- 8:52Speaker 2: got to get stronger, and there's no excuse for how
- 8:56Speaker 2: bad that he looked yesterday and not being able to
- 8:58Speaker 2: find the strike zone. But there might be reasons for it,
- 9:02Speaker 2: and to me, the reasons are, he's just better when
- 9:06Speaker 2: he's in a rhythm, and he can't get in a
- 9:08Speaker 2: rhythm because for whatever reason, and an analytics driven organization,
- 9:13Speaker 2: analytics wanted to bleed the closer out of the sport
- 9:17Speaker 2: when they started. It's unnecessary to have a guy designated
- 9:22Speaker 2: for the ninth inning. How silly is that you pitch
- 9:25Speaker 2: your best arm in the best matchups, whatever time in
- 9:28Speaker 2: the game that it requires you to need your best
- 9:33Speaker 2: arm out of the bullpen, you use him. That's what
- 9:36Speaker 2: the preaching of analytics was. And yet here we have
- 9:39Speaker 2: an analytics driven organization and a manager that will only
- 9:43Speaker 2: use Andre's munnos if we're up one or two runs
- 9:49Speaker 2: or tied after the eighth.
- 9:51Speaker 3: That's the only time that he will ever use him.
- 9:53Speaker 3: And when you do it, when you.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Let that dictate how often you use a guy that
- 9:57Speaker 2: is begging to be used more, what happens you have
- 10:01Speaker 2: long stretches of time where the game situation does not
- 10:06Speaker 2: meet your requirements for usage of Andre Simunjos, And the
- 10:11Speaker 2: end result has been He's been very inconsistent. He has
- 10:16Speaker 2: at times looked completely out of rhythm, and the statistics
- 10:19Speaker 2: bear it out. He is struggling from lack of usage.
- 10:24Speaker 2: And it's so obvious, Ashley, I mean, I just scratched
- 10:28Speaker 2: these numbers together this morning.
- 10:30Speaker 3: I don't have a computer. I did this by hand.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:33Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I'm an inning off. I
- 10:34Speaker 3: can't find an inning.
- 10:36Speaker 2: I can't find where there's a missing inning from this,
- 10:39Speaker 2: So these aren't going to be one thousand percent accurate.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Statistics.
- 10:42Speaker 2: But I'm one inning off out of twenty one and
- 10:46Speaker 2: a third, so it won't change the entire result that
- 10:50Speaker 2: I've come up with. But if I can figure this
- 10:54Speaker 2: out using pad and paper.
- 10:57Speaker 6: Yeah, the analytics nerds should be just filled with that information.
- 11:02Speaker 2: It's an entire organization. They are twenty of these guys.
- 11:06Speaker 2: They give them a phone book every day. This is
- 11:09Speaker 2: what these are the matchups, this is what we look for.
- 11:12Speaker 2: This is where he's strong, this is where they're weak.
- 11:14Speaker 2: They've got a phone book of this. And yet Dan
- 11:16Speaker 2: just keeps saying Nope, unless it's a save situation, then
- 11:21Speaker 2: Andres isn't gonna pitch. And even when Andres is saying,
- 11:27Speaker 2: I can't pitch that way, not as well as I
- 11:30Speaker 2: want to, but I'll wait until you call me and
- 11:34Speaker 2: I'll do my best.
- 11:36Speaker 5: Yep.
- 11:36Speaker 3: And yesterday it wasn't good enough. His best was not
- 11:39Speaker 3: good enough.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Erect was he was out of rhythm, two walks all
- 11:43Speaker 2: over the map, no command whatsoever. So here's the data,
- 11:47Speaker 2: this is what you're looking at. This is as simple
- 11:48Speaker 2: as could be with no day's rest. Andres Muno says
- 11:54Speaker 2: five games pitched, four and two thirds innings and one
- 11:58Speaker 2: run aloud. He has two saves and one blown save,
- 12:01Speaker 2: and he has lost two games, but four and two
- 12:05Speaker 2: thirds innings pitch, one run allowed. That's an zero point
- 12:08Speaker 2: nine to three era. When he has one day rest,
- 12:12Speaker 2: So that means like no day's rest is you're you're
- 12:14Speaker 2: going one day and then you're pitching the very next
- 12:17Speaker 2: which they don't like to do that period.
- 12:19Speaker 3: They won't do it at all with Brash.
- 12:22Speaker 2: One day between okay, so one day off Andres Muniez.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Five games pitched, five innings pitched, no runs allowed, nine strikeouts.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Two for two and save opportunities.
- 12:34Speaker 5: Wow.
- 12:36Speaker 2: When he has two days rest or more five games,
- 12:42Speaker 2: excuse me, two days just not more, just two days
- 12:44Speaker 2: two days rest, five games, four and a third innings pitched,
- 12:47Speaker 2: three runs allowed, three blown saves and one converted save.
- 12:54Speaker 3: A six point two to three e er pikes.
- 12:58Speaker 2: When he has three or days three or more days
- 13:01Speaker 2: off seven games, now, let's stop right there. Yeah, he's
- 13:08Speaker 2: pitching more on three or more days rest than in
- 13:12Speaker 2: any other scenario that I've outlined for you here. That's ridiculous, right, yeah,
- 13:18Speaker 2: this is him saying I'm doing this, You're not pitching
- 13:21Speaker 2: me enough. So five games, five games, five games, seven
- 13:26Speaker 2: games that he's pitched on three days rest or more
- 13:32Speaker 2: an eleven point three seven ERA. Now, he does have
- 13:38Speaker 2: four saves, he's blown one save, and he's lost two games.
- 13:43Speaker 2: And keep in mind that five run outing against the
- 13:46Speaker 2: Padres is in this, so that does whack the numbers considerably.
- 13:51Speaker 2: But let's take the two together. Okay, and again I'm
- 13:55Speaker 2: missing an inning. I'm also and I'm not cherry picking
- 13:58Speaker 2: because I don't know what any I miss. H I
- 14:02Speaker 2: didn't choose the first two games of the year against
- 14:05Speaker 2: Cleveland because we're coming out.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Of the gates. Yeah, you know I didn't even use those. Okay, but.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Ten games on one day rest or less a combined
- 14:20Speaker 2: zero point nine to three er. Twelve games with two
- 14:25Speaker 2: days rest or more a combined nine point two eight er.
- 14:30Speaker 6: If only there were some numbers to show that he
- 14:32Speaker 6: does better with less rest All right, that's ridiculous.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Right, you got a phone book worth of data. Yeah,
- 14:41Speaker 2: and you won't even just basic surface stuff. Oh, this guy,
- 14:46Speaker 2: when you pitch him more is better.
- 14:48Speaker 6: Yeah, if you pitch him every other day, he's actually
- 14:50Speaker 6: very very very good.
- 14:52Speaker 3: Turns out he was right.
- 14:54Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns out when he said he wanted to
- 14:56Speaker 6: pitch more, wasn't pitching enough.
- 14:58Speaker 5: Might have known what he was talking about. Now, look,
- 15:01Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be perfect.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I'm not going to excuse him. Be tougher, be better.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Why is that messing you up so much? Right?
- 15:09Speaker 2: Okay, Andres has not been very good this year. He
- 15:13Speaker 2: was elite the last couple of years. He's not been
- 15:15Speaker 2: very good. But I still saw a guy that was
- 15:17Speaker 2: throwing one hundred and one hundred and two. We don't
- 15:19Speaker 2: have a guy with that kind of fastball other than
- 15:20Speaker 2: Andre's Munnos.
- 15:22Speaker 3: He has an unhittable slider.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Pete Woodworth calls it the most unhittable pitch in the
- 15:27Speaker 2: entire sport. When he's got it. When he's on, and
- 15:31Speaker 2: he's dominating righties this year, dominating them.
- 15:35Speaker 3: It's absolutely dominating.
- 15:37Speaker 2: So what about this as a compromise, Because I know
- 15:41Speaker 2: a lot of people wont him out of the closers role.
- 15:44Speaker 3: How about we just say you don't close.
- 15:49Speaker 2: That's not your only job, but we're not going to
- 15:54Speaker 2: use you just when there's a save opportunity. We will
- 15:59Speaker 2: use you on a Friday night down two because you
- 16:03Speaker 2: need some work and because we're a bloop and a
- 16:06Speaker 2: blast away from possibly tying up, and we've just seized
- 16:09Speaker 2: momentum of this Friday night game. As opposed to using
- 16:13Speaker 2: our worst reliever, who goes out there in the eighth
- 16:16Speaker 2: and in a blink of an eye you're down four.
- 16:18Speaker 2: In the game's over, the game is out of reach.
- 16:21Speaker 2: How about we not use him as a closer purely.
- 16:27Speaker 2: I still want him when it works the right way.
- 16:31Speaker 2: He's getting the ball for me. I mean the stuff
- 16:35Speaker 2: to me that he doesn't look injured, he doesn't look tired.
- 16:40Speaker 2: The stuff to me looks like closer stuff. He's struggling
- 16:43Speaker 2: against left handers, and he's struggling with command when he
- 16:47Speaker 2: has sat for too long. Those are the two issues
- 16:49Speaker 2: with Andres Munnos. But we want this guy to be great,
- 16:55Speaker 2: and the stuff is there, so let's get him right.
- 16:58Speaker 2: That's all that matters, getting right. And I think what
- 17:01Speaker 2: gets him right is pitching him more frequently. And if
- 17:04Speaker 2: that means he's not the guy, we just don't use
- 17:09Speaker 2: him for every save. Fine, I'm a thousand percent okay
- 17:13Speaker 2: with that. Frere can get the job done, Brash can
- 17:16Speaker 2: get the job done. Gabe Spire is better than anybody
- 17:19Speaker 2: coming out of our bullpen right now, I guarantee you
- 17:21Speaker 2: Gabe Spire.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Can get us saves right now, I would think. So
- 17:24Speaker 3: I don't need.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Andres Munjos to get us every save. What I need
- 17:28Speaker 2: from Andres Munos is for him not to wait five
- 17:31Speaker 2: six days before he pitches again. That's what I need
- 17:34Speaker 2: from Andre's And I don't care if it's a scenario
- 17:37Speaker 2: like Friday where he's given the ball because we're a
- 17:40Speaker 2: bloop and a blast away from possibly coming back and
- 17:43Speaker 2: winning this game, and he needs work because we have
- 17:46Speaker 2: sat him for four straight days. I don't care if
- 17:48Speaker 2: it's Saturday, when we're up four to nothing, use him
- 17:51Speaker 2: in the ninth. Why does there have to be a
- 17:53Speaker 2: save attached to it? And then yesterday, finally he gets
- 17:57Speaker 2: his chance. He's chopping at the bit, he's throwing harder
- 18:00Speaker 2: than he ever has. He was certainly fresh, but the
- 18:03Speaker 2: five days off he looked as rusty as you could
- 18:06Speaker 2: possibly look. He had zero command out there on the mound.
- 18:10Speaker 2: How does that not ring a bell and somebody's head
- 18:12Speaker 2: in that organization. Dan Wilson's a very smart person, So
- 18:16Speaker 2: is Maniacta.
- 18:18Speaker 3: So is Pete Woodworth. So is Jerry Depoto, So is
- 18:21Speaker 3: Justin Hollander. How is that not ringing a bell? But
- 18:26Speaker 3: the reason that he's struggling is because he's not pitching.
- 18:28Speaker 6: Enough, and especially with the creativity that these guys have
- 18:32Speaker 6: shown that they're already willing to do with this pitching staff,
- 18:34Speaker 6: I mean the piggyback situation and going between that and
- 18:37Speaker 6: the six man rotation to.
- 18:38Speaker 5: Figure out what works best for people.
- 18:40Speaker 6: I don't know why you would be so flexible when
- 18:44Speaker 6: it comes to these six starters, But then when it
- 18:47Speaker 6: comes to your bullpen, it's gee.
- 18:49Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to pitch here, he has.
- 18:51Speaker 6: To Yes, yes, Why not use the same thought process,
- 18:56Speaker 6: the same mantra with your bullpen as you're using with
- 18:59Speaker 6: your starting pitch.
- 19:00Speaker 3: Well, that's just it.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Like in an analytics world in the modern day, you
- 19:03Speaker 2: mix and match. You do base it on who you're
- 19:06Speaker 2: getting ready to face and who the best matchups are.
- 19:08Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
- 19:11Speaker 2: We're doing that while we're also trying to keep people
- 19:15Speaker 2: in these old school boxes. Andre's munnos can only pitch
- 19:21Speaker 2: if there's a save on the line. That is rubbish.
- 19:24Speaker 5: Yeah, use there.
- 19:25Speaker 6: You have great pitchers, use them in the moments in
- 19:29Speaker 6: each game. Like, ooh, actually, this would be a great
- 19:31Speaker 6: plan for this person. This would be a great Oh
- 19:33Speaker 6: you know what, Mooney hasn't hasn't pitched since Wednesday, Let's
- 19:37Speaker 6: use him.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Munjos is dominating right handers, even with how poorly he's look,
- 19:41Speaker 2: he's dominating right handers.
- 19:43Speaker 3: You know, it's not it's not a terrible idea that, hey,
- 19:47Speaker 3: we need to get him.
- 19:48Speaker 2: He needs to pitch today, and right now it's tied,
- 19:52Speaker 2: and I know it's the seventh inning, but they've got
- 19:54Speaker 2: a steady flow of right handers coming up. Use Munjos then,
- 20:00Speaker 2: and then we can trust somebody else to get a
- 20:02Speaker 2: save in the ninth inning, since we can't trust Andres
- 20:06Speaker 2: to get a save in the ninth inning right now,
- 20:09Speaker 2: especially when he's on three or more days rest. I
- 20:12Speaker 2: don't think this is a difficult problem to solve. And
- 20:16Speaker 2: trust me, all of those that want to chase Andres
- 20:18Speaker 2: Munyos out of town, we want to solve this, right.
- 20:22Speaker 2: We want Andres to be good because he has shown
- 20:26Speaker 2: he can be elite coming out of the pen.
- 20:29Speaker 3: And you just don't walk away from guys like that.
- 20:32Speaker 2: And so let's get him right and on most nights,
- 20:36Speaker 2: if it works out that way.
- 20:37Speaker 3: I want him closing for us.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Even now, even with five blown saves before June eighth,
- 20:43Speaker 2: I want him closing for us. But I don't want
- 20:46Speaker 2: to make Andres Munno's only pitch in save situations because
- 20:51Speaker 2: it's ruining his season.
- 20:54Speaker 5: Andrew doing yourselves a disservice too.
- 20:56Speaker 6: I mean, you're he's not pitching at his best and
- 20:59Speaker 6: that they're for is hurting your team. So I don't
- 21:02Speaker 6: know why you wouldn't think outside the box a little
- 21:05Speaker 6: bit more.
- 21:05Speaker 2: NBA Finals Game three tonight, Can the Spurs bounce back?
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- 22:17Speaker 2: NBA Finals are going to take place tonight, game number
- 22:20Speaker 2: three between the Spurs and the New York Knicks. I
- 22:23Speaker 2: don't think the Knicks are playing as well as they
- 22:26Speaker 2: were the previous what eleven wins in a row, but
- 22:30Speaker 2: certainly they're playing really great basketball down the stretch, and
- 22:34Speaker 2: I give them all the credit in the world. I mean,
- 22:36Speaker 2: that is the goal. That is the design of a
- 22:38Speaker 2: sports season, is that you want to be playing your best.
- 22:41Speaker 2: You want to use the entire arc of your season
- 22:44Speaker 2: and that continue. That includes the off season, the preseason,
- 22:49Speaker 2: the regular season, managing injuries, getting to know one another,
- 22:53Speaker 2: and you want that to culminate with you playing your
- 22:55Speaker 2: absolute best basketball fill in the blank, basketball, baseball, softball,
- 22:59Speaker 2: whatever it is that you're playing at the right time.
- 23:02Speaker 2: And that's the Knicks. That's what they have done this year.
- 23:05Speaker 2: They are playing the best basketball in the world as
- 23:08Speaker 2: a team right now. I think maybe they're playing better
- 23:10Speaker 2: basketball than anyone else is playing any sport right now.
- 23:14Speaker 6: Well, and especially I mean you look at the last
- 23:15Speaker 6: game or last I guess it was, yeah, the last game,
- 23:18Speaker 6: last two games. Just how much other people are stepping
- 23:22Speaker 6: up because you've got Jalen Brunson and you've seen that
- 23:23Speaker 6: he's incredible and what he can do real. But now
- 23:26Speaker 6: you've got you know, Karl Anthony Towns, who's like, hey,
- 23:29Speaker 6: you know, I'm here and I'm actually really good too.
- 23:31Speaker 6: So I'll just you know, if Jalen's having a little
- 23:32Speaker 6: bit of an off night before the fourth quarter, I
- 23:34Speaker 6: got us.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Jalen Brunson is just an assassin. I
- 23:38Speaker 2: mean he is. You know, we just got done talking
- 23:40Speaker 2: about a closer. I mean, he's got that closer mentality.
- 23:43Speaker 2: He's got that Mariano Rivera mentality like I I will
- 23:47Speaker 2: make the last shot, there's no doubt. You better not give.
- 23:50Speaker 3: It to me.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And I don't even care if I have a good
- 23:52Speaker 2: angle at the basket. I'm just gonna throw it up
- 23:55Speaker 2: and it's going to go in. You know, that's kind
- 23:57Speaker 2: of his mentality. But more of this series, it's two
- 24:01Speaker 2: to nothing because the Spurs have not played as well
- 24:04Speaker 2: and maybe they felt as a young.
- 24:06Speaker 3: Team once again.
- 24:08Speaker 2: You know, it's not just to get to the finals.
- 24:11Speaker 2: They always say a young team's gotta have some sort
- 24:15Speaker 2: of failure before they realize what it takes to get
- 24:17Speaker 2: through four series. You gotta win sixteen games, and they
- 24:21Speaker 2: did a tremendous job winning twelve, and they knocked out
- 24:24Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder, but then at home the last
- 24:28Speaker 2: two games. I don't think it's necessarily been about how
- 24:33Speaker 2: great the Knicks have been, because I don't think they've
- 24:35Speaker 2: been as good as they were in their previous eleven games.
- 24:38Speaker 2: I think it has been the Spurs have just not
- 24:41Speaker 2: responded to the moment to the stage, and Wimby has
- 24:45Speaker 2: not responded to the moment or the stage. And maybe
- 24:48Speaker 2: it is Carl Anthony Towns that's taken him out of
- 24:51Speaker 2: his game. And this is somebody that I think at
- 24:54Speaker 2: one point was labeled a little soft and whether or
- 24:56Speaker 2: not you could build an organization around him, because the
- 24:59Speaker 2: Timberwolves tried to do that once upon a time ball
- 25:02Speaker 2: whatever he's learned. And I think it goes back to
- 25:05Speaker 2: two coaches. Tibbs, who was a defensive minded head coach
- 25:09Speaker 2: who was there in New York and maybe he couldn't
- 25:11Speaker 2: get him over the top, like Mike Brown looks like
- 25:13Speaker 2: he's going to get him over the top, but he's
- 25:15Speaker 2: certainly instilled in him, hey man, you got to be
- 25:17Speaker 2: great on both ends of the floor, which I don't
- 25:20Speaker 2: think Carl Anthony Towns ever was. And then once that
- 25:24Speaker 2: was instilled in him, then Mike Brown's kind of taking him.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Mike Brown's more of the you can be the best
- 25:29Speaker 2: out there kind of coach, uh, and he's taken him
- 25:33Speaker 2: the rest of the way. We're looking at a great
- 25:35Speaker 2: player right now and Carl Anthony Towns and we're looking
- 25:38Speaker 2: at a cold blooded assassin and Jalen Brunson. And then
- 25:41Speaker 2: as a group, they play as well together as anyone
- 25:44Speaker 2: in sports right now.
- 25:45Speaker 6: Well, and with the how well they're playing too, the
- 25:47Speaker 6: Spurs just can't beat themselves.
- 25:49Speaker 5: And that's what they did in the last game.
- 25:50Speaker 6: I mean, they they blew their opportunity to win that
- 25:53Speaker 6: game with the with Wemby getting that rebound and then
- 25:56Speaker 6: passing to Castle off his back, and I mean, you
- 25:59Speaker 6: know all, but that's the inexperience, that's the young players
- 26:04Speaker 6: on that team. And so you can't give the Knicks
- 26:07Speaker 6: for how well they're playing anything like any advantage.
- 26:11Speaker 5: And that should have been the Spurs game. You should
- 26:13Speaker 5: be going to New York right now, one to one.
- 26:14Speaker 5: But instead, Yeah, the.
- 26:15Speaker 6: Spurs took advantage of or the Knicks took advantage of
- 26:18Speaker 6: the Spurs mistakes.
- 26:20Speaker 3: And I don't think they're done. I think they could.
- 26:22Speaker 2: You know, I heard a conversation this morning, do they
- 26:24Speaker 2: have a chance, And one of the answers that one
- 26:26Speaker 2: of the panelists gave was no, of course they have
- 26:28Speaker 2: a chance. Of course they can go and steal Game
- 26:31Speaker 2: three and Wemby can play out of his mind and
- 26:33Speaker 2: that changes the series. I mean, but you got to
- 26:36Speaker 2: win tonight. You can't lose again tonight and think that
- 26:38Speaker 2: you're going.
- 26:39Speaker 3: To come back. That's not going to happen.
- 26:41Speaker 2: But certainly Wemby can go out there and have a
- 26:43Speaker 2: legendary game, steal Game three and you're right back in
- 26:46Speaker 2: the series and it's suddenly interesting again. But I do
- 26:52Speaker 2: get a kick. I love that inside the NBA has
- 26:55Speaker 2: the finals. They never get the finals, but they have
- 26:57Speaker 2: the finals, so they're gonna get the last word.
- 26:59Speaker 3: On the season. And look, I love Charles Barkley.
- 27:04Speaker 2: I really do. I think he's great, great for basketball.
- 27:07Speaker 2: He is one of the best TV personalities of all time.
- 27:10Speaker 2: And I also appreciate, you know, as a sports talk
- 27:13Speaker 2: show of myself that sometimes listeners are like, hey, you
- 27:19Speaker 2: just said that like two hours ago. Yeah, well yeah,
- 27:23Speaker 2: because we're taught you have a different audience turns over
- 27:27Speaker 2: all the time, and I can't change my opinion. So
- 27:31Speaker 2: if the audience is changing over and yet I got
- 27:33Speaker 2: to talk about the same topic, yeah, I'm gonna fall
- 27:36Speaker 2: back on the opinion that I probably shared earlier in
- 27:39Speaker 2: the day, and hopefully I can expand on it or
- 27:42Speaker 2: twist it or whatever the case may be. But all
- 27:46Speaker 2: of us that have done this and our words are
- 27:49Speaker 2: out there for people to consume. We've repeated ourselves, yes
- 27:53Speaker 2: a lot, and yet Charles takes it to.
- 27:56Speaker 3: A whole new level. I mean.
- 28:01Speaker 2: I said this before the series, Carl Anthony Towns is
- 28:05Speaker 2: gonna be the key Now, Shaq, you said something the
- 28:07Speaker 2: other day and I'm telling you Carl Anthony Towns is
- 28:12Speaker 2: the key, and he's taking Wemby completely out of this game.
- 28:16Speaker 2: And Ernie, I told you back in the pre Carl
- 28:18Speaker 2: Anthony Towns is the key to this series.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Wimby looks scared.
- 28:23Speaker 5: He looks scared.
- 28:26Speaker 2: He is the key to this series. And I told
- 28:28Speaker 2: you over and no. And that's the thing about the finals,
- 28:32Speaker 2: Ernie Kenny Shaq. Carl Anthony Towns went out there and
- 28:38Speaker 2: he took over the series.
- 28:39Speaker 3: And that's what you gotta do.
- 28:41Speaker 2: The key to the series has been Carl Anthony Towns.
- 28:44Speaker 2: And I got to give credit to Kat because he's
- 28:46Speaker 2: been the key to the series.
- 28:47Speaker 6: Now, Charles, I hear what you're saying, But who do
- 28:51Speaker 6: you think is going to be the key to the series.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Carl Anthony Towns.
- 28:55Speaker 2: San Antonio got big women.
- 28:59Speaker 5: Okay, hey, both of those things are trial.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really goodness, he did point it out. He's
- 29:07Speaker 2: like Carl Anthony Towns. Watch out for Carl. And now
- 29:10Speaker 2: that he's turning out to be like the difference in
- 29:12Speaker 2: the series, and he has taken Wimby out of his
- 29:15Speaker 2: comfort zone.
- 29:17Speaker 3: It is just Carl Anthony. He's beating us over the head.
- 29:21Speaker 5: One I mean good for you, Charles.
- 29:23Speaker 2: I mean I'll repeat things from earlier in a show,
- 29:26Speaker 2: or maybe once in a segment, just for a point
- 29:29Speaker 2: of emphasis. But give Charles five minutes and he'll tell
- 29:32Speaker 2: you Karl Anthony Towns has been the key to the
- 29:35Speaker 2: series fifteen times.
- 29:37Speaker 5: At least, there's no mistaking his opinion. We all know.
- 29:42Speaker 3: Terrible, all right?
- 29:44Speaker 2: Coming up next, Mariners are heading to Baltimore to take
- 29:48Speaker 2: on the Orioles. We preview the suddenly awakened Baltimore Orioles
- 29:53Speaker 2: for you next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 29:56Speaker 3: Coming up at eight o'clock, Seyawks one series Jackson.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Bevans, we'll join us today. We'll find out who he
- 30:02Speaker 2: wants to break down here at eight o'clock for one
- 30:04Speaker 2: entire interview. That's one analyst, one Seahawk player, for one
- 30:07Speaker 2: entire interview. Throughout the month of June, every single day.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Did you do it? Thursday and Friday? We sure did?
- 30:12Speaker 3: Who did you do?
- 30:13Speaker 6: Talk to Joseph Hoyt from the Dallas Morning News on
- 30:15Speaker 6: Thursday about Dante Fowler Junior, okay, And we talked to
- 30:20Speaker 6: John Boyle on Friday about Jackson Smith.
- 30:22Speaker 2: And jigbat Boyle slipped right in there on he did
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- 30:39Speaker 3: So we'll do the Seahawks one series coming up.
- 30:41Speaker 2: But the Mariners lose two out of three to the
- 30:43Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers over the weekend. So that's three four losses
- 30:45Speaker 2: out of their last four, just when we thought they
- 30:48Speaker 2: were in a roll on a roll Detroit. They should
- 30:51Speaker 2: have won yesterday for sure. Uh, there's no excuse to
- 30:55Speaker 2: have lost that game. I mean there are reasons behind it,
- 30:58Speaker 2: but there's no excuse, no thanks, to lose that game
- 31:01Speaker 2: on Sunday. And so suddenly maybe we're not as hot
- 31:03Speaker 2: as maybe we're not as hot as we thought we were.
- 31:06Speaker 5: That is the worst.
- 31:08Speaker 3: Like Chloe Kardashian.
- 31:11Speaker 5: And are you saying like maybe maybe people just aren't
- 31:15Speaker 5: that into us.
- 31:17Speaker 2: I don't know, but we'll try to get right against
- 31:20Speaker 2: a team that may have gotten right the Baltimore Orioles.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Keep in mind the Baltimore Orioles two years ago. They
- 31:28Speaker 2: thought they were had arrived, like, we're the team to
- 31:31Speaker 2: beat in the American League East. We're better than the
- 31:34Speaker 2: Yankees were, better than the Blue Jays were. They have
- 31:37Speaker 2: this young team that has found the playoffs. We haven't
- 31:41Speaker 2: won in the playoffs, but we keep finding the playoffs.
- 31:44Speaker 2: And yet we're built on this young nucleus of high
- 31:47Speaker 2: draft picks and terrific offensive talent. If we could just
- 31:51Speaker 2: find pitching, we're gonna get over the top. And then
- 31:54Speaker 2: last year a disaster, like everything went wrong. They couldn't
- 31:57Speaker 2: even hit, and they certainly couldn't pitch. And then this
- 32:00Speaker 2: year they you know, we're gonna reinforce. We're gonna be
- 32:04Speaker 2: gonna very aggressive, and they were very aggressive in the offseason.
- 32:08Speaker 2: They added Pete Alonzo for goodness sake, in the offseason.
- 32:11Speaker 2: This is just an organization that doesn't spend. You don't
- 32:13Speaker 2: think the Mariners spend. Look at the Orioles spending history
- 32:17Speaker 2: in the last quarter century. They just don't spend. But
- 32:20Speaker 2: they were in we're not gonna blow this foundation. We're
- 32:24Speaker 2: gonna go for it, and they were very aggressive this
- 32:27Speaker 2: past offseason.
- 32:28Speaker 3: And what happened. They started the year twenty one and
- 32:30Speaker 3: twenty nine and you had to do some soul searching.
- 32:34Speaker 3: If you're anywhere in the Orioles front office, you're looking
- 32:38Speaker 3: at your watch like, okay, where else could I get
- 32:41Speaker 3: a job before lunch today?
- 32:44Speaker 5: Before lunch?
- 32:45Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was not looking good for Baltimore again.
- 32:50Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden, they won ten of
- 32:52Speaker 2: their next fourteen, so they pulled themselves out of that crater,
- 32:57Speaker 2: dusted themselves off. Now they've lost two in a row
- 33:00Speaker 2: to Toronto, but still you've gone ten and six, moved
- 33:04Speaker 2: up to thirty one and thirty five overall, which isn't great,
- 33:08Speaker 2: but you're only a game and a half out of
- 33:10Speaker 2: the wild card. So the Orioles are revived. They feel renewed.
- 33:14Speaker 2: That's what the Mariners are going up against, and it's
- 33:17Speaker 2: going to be strength on strength. It's going to be
- 33:19Speaker 2: our pitching versus their hitting, which is the reason why
- 33:23Speaker 2: they've turned things back around. Those young hitters that were
- 33:27Speaker 2: kind of the envy of baseball there for a while.
- 33:30Speaker 2: That young nucleus of hitters, over that stretch of sixteen
- 33:34Speaker 2: games that they've played, have scored ninety four runs during
- 33:38Speaker 2: that time, so about six runs per game. So they've
- 33:42Speaker 2: actually really picked it up, and so it's going to
- 33:44Speaker 2: be strength on strength, four nights of it starting tonight
- 33:47Speaker 2: at three thirty five, or four late afternoons for us,
- 33:51Speaker 2: starting at three thirty five tonight.
- 33:53Speaker 3: Our strength are starting pitching against their strength, which is
- 33:56Speaker 3: their young hitters. Let's get it on. Yeah.
- 33:58Speaker 6: I feel like just coming off that Detroit series because
- 34:02Speaker 6: it was the same thing.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Right.
- 34:03Speaker 5: Detroit was terrible.
- 34:04Speaker 6: They had a horrible May, and you're thinking, Okay, yeah,
- 34:07Speaker 6: they're kind of getting right, but we're a better team.
- 34:10Speaker 6: We're supposed to be a better team. But they didn't
- 34:12Speaker 6: have I didn't think the hitting issue the hitting strength
- 34:16Speaker 6: that Baltimore has. So it does make me a little
- 34:18Speaker 6: extra nervous.
- 34:19Speaker 2: And the thing about the two guys with Baltimore, the
- 34:21Speaker 2: two guys we got to be worried about, are both catchers.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Adleie Rutchman has refound his game this year and for
- 34:27Speaker 2: the last couple of years, I mean, the question in
- 34:29Speaker 2: Baltimore has been what's wrong with a Lee? Yeah, I mean,
- 34:32Speaker 2: he was a number one overall pick out of Oregon State,
- 34:36Speaker 2: was supposed to be a superstar, and for the last
- 34:39Speaker 2: two years he's not hit well. Well, he's hitting well
- 34:41Speaker 2: this year so he's found his game. And then young
- 34:43Speaker 2: Sam Bissalo also a catcher, so he's the other guy
- 34:49Speaker 2: that is scorching the baseball right now. So we got
- 34:52Speaker 2: to be careful with those guys. They can hit home runs.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Colton Kowser's been on a roll lately as well, and
- 34:58Speaker 2: so's that's the matchup. Colby ma hits home runs. I mean,
- 35:01Speaker 2: they are all home run hitting team, and that's going
- 35:04Speaker 2: to be an interesting four days. Certainly, we're gonna have
- 35:07Speaker 2: to bring a better version of ourselves than what we
- 35:11Speaker 2: took to Detroit because that was sloppy and at times gross,
- 35:15Speaker 2: what we watched this weekend.
- 35:16Speaker 5: Yeah, we need to see some good defense out of
- 35:18Speaker 5: our our team for sure.
- 35:19Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Naylor had a weird weekend, just a weird.
- 35:23Speaker 5: That's a weird weekend.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Yeah, some really great moments, some really bad moments as well,
- 35:29Speaker 2: which we will discuss a little later on in the show.
- 35:31Speaker 2: But coming up next your Seahawks one series. I don't
- 35:34Speaker 2: know who we're going to break down. We're about to
- 35:35Speaker 2: find out. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ A
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