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Episode Two Hundred: McDonald Trump · The Death Of Journalism

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number two hundred of the Death of
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  Speaker 1: Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm your host
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  Speaker 1: of today's show. The Big Fox News Interview with Kamala
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  Speaker 1: Harris creates fireworks and did Brett bhar get one of
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  Speaker 1: his key questions for me? Comedian Jim Gaffinget gives the
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  Speaker 1: Trump campaign their best ad ever at the Al Smith Dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow the late Arnold Palmer's penis penetrates the campaign Trump
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  Speaker 1: works at McDonald's and the reaction is very telling and
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  Speaker 1: there are multiple new data points in the never ending
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  Speaker 1: destruction of college sports. We begin this two hundredth episode
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  Speaker 1: of the podcast with unfortunately rather belated commentary and analysis
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  Speaker 1: on the Brett bar Kamala Harris interview that had extremely
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  Speaker 1: unfortunate timing, at least with regard to the production of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, as it occurred after I had taped episode
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  Speaker 1: one ninety nine and came out well before our podcast
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  Speaker 1: episode was made public, so I did not have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to react to it on the podcast, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even get a chance to react to it on
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  Speaker 1: News Nation Television, which I'm going to get to a
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  Speaker 1: little bit later, on which I had promoted in the
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  Speaker 1: last episode of the podcast, but I do want to
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  Speaker 1: at least begin this episode of the podcast with some
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  Speaker 1: belated analysis of this event, which I do think was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much significance it's going to end
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  Speaker 1: up having, but it was very, very telling in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I want to begin by mentioning
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  Speaker 1: that this took place in Washington Crossing, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: I did not know this.
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was going to happen in Pennsylvania, but
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  Speaker 1: I did not know what was going to happen in
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  Speaker 1: Washington Crossing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's significant because.
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  Speaker 1: That's the little town along the Delaware River where I
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  Speaker 1: grew up. I started living there in nineteen seventy five
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  Speaker 1: and lived there essentially through college, and so you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the town I'll always think of as where I
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  Speaker 1: grew up, and it's, you know, it's a nice little town.
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  Speaker 1: It obviously has historic significance, which is why Harris was
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  Speaker 1: there to begin with one, because Bucks County, Pennsylvania is
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  Speaker 1: a key county when it comes to who's going to
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  Speaker 1: win Pennsylvania, which may determine this election, but also because
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  Speaker 1: it's where Washington crossed the Delaware in seventeen seventy six,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, that was what started the Battle of Trenton,
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  Speaker 1: which allegedly turned around the Revolutionary War. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: having lived there and gone to the museum many times,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you that this is probably one of
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  Speaker 1: the most overrated battles in the history of humanity. The
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  Speaker 1: whole thing was basically a scam. It was a brilliant scam.
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  Speaker 1: It was a pr move. But you know, Washington basically
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  Speaker 1: broke the rules of warfare at the time. And these
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  Speaker 1: weren't even British soldiers. These were Hessians that were being
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  Speaker 1: paid to be there. They were mercenaries, they were celebrating Christmas,
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  Speaker 1: and basically they took over the encampment with hardly any
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  Speaker 1: casualties at all. I mean very only a couple people
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  Speaker 1: I think died and very few people were even wounded.
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  Speaker 1: And so the Battle of Trenton was a situation that
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of fanfare, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of attention. It's got perceived historical significance even to this day,
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  Speaker 1: but not really much happened and or changed all that
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  Speaker 1: much in reality. Again, perception oftentimes is reality, and that
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  Speaker 1: may have been the case in that particular circumstance, but
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  Speaker 1: there are some parallels between the Battle of Trenton and
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  Speaker 1: the bretbar Kamala Harris interview, because well, there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fireworks and fanfare and attention. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how much it really is going to change much at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, at least not in reality.
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  Speaker 1: At least not in reality. That doesn't mean it wasn't interesting.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it wasn't telling, and that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that it wasn't a significant event when it came to
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  Speaker 1: the topic of journalism, which is obviously at the forefront
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  Speaker 1: of the Death of Journalism podcast. I also want to
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  Speaker 1: mention that Harris was there not just for the Brett
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  Speaker 1: Bahar interview. In fact, the Brett Baar interview was there
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  Speaker 1: because Harris was doing an event that day, a speech
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  Speaker 1: that she was giving almost to the exact spot where
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  Speaker 1: Washington launched the attack on Trenton with the crossing of
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  Speaker 1: the Delaware, and I actually thought the speech was really good.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm sure it was mostly, if not totally bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think she's a sincere person.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what she really believes.
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  Speaker 1: But if I believe that the speech that Harris gave.
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  Speaker 1: This might shock some people if I believe, if I
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  Speaker 1: truly believe that the speech that Harris gave in Washington
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  Speaker 1: Crossing before the Brettbear interview was sincere and this was
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  Speaker 1: a speech that was clearly targeted at Republicans. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bucks County has a lot of moderate Republicans, so this
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  Speaker 1: was exactly the right place to give this speech.
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  Speaker 2: But if I believed it was sincere, if.
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  Speaker 1: I had any trust in it, I would actually consider
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  Speaker 1: voting for Kamala Harris over Donald Trump based upon that speech.
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  Speaker 2: It was really well done.
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  Speaker 1: It was perfectly crafted, it was even pretty well presented,
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  Speaker 1: and she's not not bad at this stuff, not nearly
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  Speaker 1: as bad as Trump fans would like to think that
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  Speaker 1: she is. Now, just to be clear, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to vote for Harris because I don't believe the speech
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  Speaker 1: is sincere, But I think that was important context for
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  Speaker 1: why she was in Bucks County, why Washington Crossing, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: and why she decided to do the Brett Behar interview
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  Speaker 1: from that location on that day, because the opportunity here
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  Speaker 1: for her was to potentially make inroads with modern Republicans.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you go on.
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  Speaker 1: At least in theory why you go on Fox News Channel.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you're going to reach a lot of moderate Republicans,
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  Speaker 1: people who obviously are gonna have your hardcore Trump fans,
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  Speaker 1: but there are at least some persuadable voters who watch
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  Speaker 1: Fox NewsChannel, and just by virtue of you doing an
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  Speaker 1: interview on Fox News Channel, there was gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: huge audience of people that would not normally tune in.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: This interview ended up getting over seven million viewers when
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  Speaker 1: it was aired on Fox News Channel, and who knows
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  Speaker 1: how many people saw the highlights online and in other venues.
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  Speaker 1: So this was an interview that got a lot of attention,
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  Speaker 1: provided an opportunity for Harris.
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  Speaker 2: To continue on this theme that.
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  Speaker 1: She created earlier that day of here I am, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to appeal to all Americans, including modern Republicans, who
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  Speaker 1: might feel very uncomfortable with Donald Trump and are looking
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  Speaker 1: for another alternative. So that's the context of the interview.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to provide one more piece of context
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  Speaker 1: before I get into what I thought were the key
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  Speaker 1: moments from what happened between Brett bhar and Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 1: And this is as an interviewer, someone who's done more
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  Speaker 1: than my share of very high profile interviews under high
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  Speaker 1: pressure situations, I could fully understand what was really going
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  Speaker 1: on here. Brett bhar after the interview, told his colleagues
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  Speaker 1: on Fox News Channel about what was going on behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes, and what I perceive happened was some dirty
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  Speaker 1: pool by the Harris people. Not that this is all
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  Speaker 1: that shocking, because that's what politics are. And obviously, you
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  Speaker 1: know there's an adversarial relationship between the Harris campaign and
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  Speaker 1: Fox News Channel to begin with, so they don't care
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  Speaker 1: about burning any bridges. They know this is a one
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  Speaker 1: shot deal. And Brett Bear essentially said that the Harris
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  Speaker 1: campaign did not abide by the rules, did not abide
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  Speaker 1: by the agreement. The agreement was a thirty minute interview
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  Speaker 1: that was gonna begin at five pm Eastern time.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's important.
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  Speaker 1: It's important on a couple of different levels because Brett
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  Speaker 1: Bear's show on Fox News Channel airs at six pm.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're gonna do a thirty minute interview.
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  Speaker 1: Starting at five pm, that gives you plenty of time
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  Speaker 1: to turn it around because you're taping this you're not
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  Speaker 1: doing this live, but you've already promised that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: air the whole thing in its entirety, So that's plenty
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  Speaker 1: of time.
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  Speaker 2: That's number one.
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  Speaker 1: Number two is when you think you have thirty minutes,
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  Speaker 1: you have put a lot of preparation into what you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask, how you're gonna ask, and how many questions
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  Speaker 1: you think you're gonna be able to.
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  Speaker 2: Get through in a very short amount of time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you listen to this, the Harris campaign, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: clearly on purpose, clearly on purpose, shows up late, putting
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  Speaker 1: Brett Behar in a very difficult situation on multiple fronts. One,
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  Speaker 1: how many questions can I ask?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: What do I have to edit out of my prepared questions?
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  Speaker 1: Am I gonna have to speed this up? And I
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  Speaker 1: think this was if I'm giving the Harris campaign maybe
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  Speaker 1: more credit than they deserve, I'm not sure, but I
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  Speaker 1: think this was now part of the plan in retrospect
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  Speaker 1: when they cut the time of the interview, and in
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  Speaker 1: fact they even cut it off early so it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: go thirty minutes, as you're gonna hear from this clip
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  Speaker 1: from Brett Behar. So you start late, you put Bear
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  Speaker 1: under pressure on multiple fronts. You cut it off early,
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  Speaker 1: and you force you force Bear, as a white male,
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  Speaker 1: to interrupt Harris because you know you can't afford to
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  Speaker 1: have her filibuster, because you don't have enough time. Otherwise
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to get to anything close
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  Speaker 1: to where the number of topics you wanted to touch on. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they wanted Bear to interrupt her because they want to
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  Speaker 1: play the victim card. They want him to be mansplaining
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  Speaker 1: to her.
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  Speaker 2: It's an impossible situation for Bears.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to use the first female president card.
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  Speaker 2: She's a woman of color.
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  Speaker 1: You're treating her unfairly, you're not letting her speak. And
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  Speaker 1: it was obvious that that was one of the themes
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  Speaker 1: that the Harris campaign wanted to create from this, but
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  Speaker 1: that was contrived and Brett Bear proof that after the
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  Speaker 1: interview when he said this on Fox News.
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  Speaker 4: Channel, Dana, I'll give you a little behind the scenes here.
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  Speaker 4: I know you love this and it fits in with
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  Speaker 4: Dana read sports. You know when the kicker in football,
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  Speaker 4: they call a timeout right before he's going to kick
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  Speaker 4: the field goal. They're icing the kicker. So we were
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  Speaker 4: supposed to start at five pm. This was the time
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  Speaker 4: they gave us. Originally, we're going to do twenty five
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  Speaker 4: or thirty minutes. They came in and said, well, maybe
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  Speaker 4: twenty so it was already getting whittled down, and then
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  Speaker 4: the Vice President showed up about five point fifteen. We
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  Speaker 4: were pushing the envelope to be able to turn it around.
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  Speaker 2: For the top of the six o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: So that's how it started. And I could tell when
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  Speaker 4: we started talking that she was going to be tough
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  Speaker 4: to to, you know, redirect without me trying to interrupt.
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  Speaker 4: I did this with President Obama. At one point I
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  Speaker 4: just said, mister President, I know you liked the filibuster.
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  Speaker 4: I just didn't even have the chance to sometimes redirect
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  Speaker 4: in those ways.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, that's really important to understand. The Harris
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  Speaker 1: team purposely showed up late. There was no lausible explanation
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  Speaker 1: for why they weren't there at five pm. They cut
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  Speaker 1: it off early, and they did so because they were
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  Speaker 1: trying to create a victim narrative. They know, they know
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  Speaker 1: this is not rocket science. They knew exactly what was
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  Speaker 1: going to happen with Bear. They also, I'm sure, as
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  Speaker 1: Bear implied, there were trying to throw them off his game,
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  Speaker 1: Ice the Kicker, because I've been in that situation. That
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  Speaker 1: is a very difficult circumstance to deal with. You think
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  Speaker 1: you have thirty minutes. Now all of a sudden, you
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much time you have. You're trying to
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  Speaker 1: edit on the run. You know, this is a high
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  Speaker 1: pressure situation to begin with. There's maybe more pressure on
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  Speaker 1: Bear than there is on Harris, because Bear has to
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  Speaker 1: give his core audience what they want or his career
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  Speaker 1: could be in jeopardy going forward. Harris knows that her
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  Speaker 1: base is gonna love whatever she does as long as
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  Speaker 1: she fights back, and she did do that, and frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that her responses were all that bad.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't as bad as a lot of the Trump
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  Speaker 1: bands think that they were.
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  Speaker 2: Her base loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I basically predicted this in the last episode of the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and both sides were going to declare victory and that
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  Speaker 1: as long as Harris stayed strong, it doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: she said substantively.
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  Speaker 2: As long as she.
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  Speaker 1: Attacked Trump and attacked Fox News Channel and played the victim,
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be, at least among her.
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  Speaker 2: Base, a win for her.
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  Speaker 1: But I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by
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  Speaker 1: how aggressive and how competent Brett Bear was in his questioning.
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  Speaker 1: It began with really a cross examination, and that I
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  Speaker 1: think is the only turn that really fully accurately describes
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  Speaker 1: what happened here, a prosecutorial cross examination by Bear of
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  Speaker 1: Harris on the issue of illegal immigration.
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  Speaker 2: And it was brutal. And what was.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting about this is the left thinks, well, Harris did
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  Speaker 1: a really good job and you know, in difficult circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: And I said to myself, well, okay, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't do a Biden, she didn't completely curl into
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  Speaker 1: the fetal position, she didn't you know, wet her pants,
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  Speaker 1: but she looked guilty as hell. Using the cross examination metaphor,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, essentially, she's a guilty defendant on the stand
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  Speaker 1: being grilled by a highly competent prosecutor, and she's looking guilty. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's not admitting guilt, and yeah, she's saying words in
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  Speaker 1: a way that doesn't one hundred percent prove her guilt,
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  Speaker 1: but she's creating the impression, or the impression is being
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  Speaker 1: created not necessarily because of her responses, but because of
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  Speaker 1: the facts, because of reality she looks guilty because of
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  Speaker 1: the facts.
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  Speaker 2: She can't do anything about the fact pattern.
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  Speaker 1: And Brett Bair did an excellent job far far better
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  Speaker 1: than anyone else has or will in in any interview
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  Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris to present the proper timeline and context
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  Speaker 1: with regard to this administration's bungling, catastrophic bungling of the
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  Speaker 1: issue of illegal immigration. That was done in an expert fashion,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, and like a good prosecutorial cross examination,
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  Speaker 1: the defendant, no matter how good they are at being
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  Speaker 1: able to offuscate and not answer the questions, came across
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  Speaker 1: looking guilty, guilty, guilty guilty. Doesn't matter that she did
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  Speaker 1: as well as she could under the very troubling, a
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  Speaker 1: difficult fact pattern.
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  Speaker 2: She still looked guilty.
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  Speaker 1: And Bear did a great job on that and substantively
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  Speaker 1: that was probably the most significant and important part of
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  Speaker 1: the interview. How much impact that has on the actual election,
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  Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea. I mean, both sides were
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  Speaker 1: spinning furiously, and like I said, the Left was triumphant,
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  Speaker 1: and the media did everything they possibly could to make
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  Speaker 1: it look like Harris had held her own and maybe
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  Speaker 1: even eked out of victory as the as the Washington
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  Speaker 1: Post theorized, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding? I mean, by what standard are you
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  Speaker 2: judging this? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Again, she didn't totally collapse, she didn't melt down.
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  Speaker 2: She had some testy moments.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, that was one of the words that kept
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  Speaker 1: being used in the media, was testy on both sides.
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  Speaker 1: But the you know, I frankly think that some of
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  Speaker 1: her responses could have been interpreted as unpresidential from that perspective,
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  Speaker 1: from the testiness element of it, but substantively I thought
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  Speaker 1: she got absolutely crushed on illegal immigration. It's too long
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  Speaker 1: and you've probably already seen it, so I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to bother to play the clip. I think anybody who's
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  Speaker 1: rational can agree that that was the essential reality surrounding
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  Speaker 1: that subject. I do want to play, though, a couple
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  Speaker 1: of clips from the interview that I found to be
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  Speaker 1: quite compelling, interesting, provocative, and maybe had some level of significance.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the first one I want to play.
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  Speaker 1: I want to play one because it's a subject that
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  Speaker 1: I have talked about constantly on this podcast, and that
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  Speaker 1: I had even suggested via social media that Brett Bhaer
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  Speaker 1: ask about now To be clear, I hate it when
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  Speaker 1: talk show hosts of all sorts presumed that anything that
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  Speaker 1: they have talked about or suggested in public that ends
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  Speaker 1: up happening is because of them. There's you know, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: there's coincidence. Obviously, there's the concept of similar thinking minds
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  Speaker 1: are going to come up with similar conclusions.
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  Speaker 2: And so I have no idea whether or not.
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  Speaker 1: Brettbear actually used or was inspired by something that I
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  Speaker 1: put out there on his Twitter feed before the interview.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mostly just mentioning this because I think it's funny
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  Speaker 1: and maybe it does indicate, you know, how the thought
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  Speaker 1: process of these interviewers work. But you may recall in
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  Speaker 1: episode number one hundred and ninety nine, I shared with
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  Speaker 1: you the three questions, the three suggested questions that I
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  Speaker 1: had put on Brettbear's Twitter feed at his request. He
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  Speaker 1: had requested for Twitter followers or users to suggest questions.
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  Speaker 2: For the interview.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I had no expectation at all, zero, because I
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  Speaker 1: knew thousands and thousands of people we're gonna make suggestions,
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  Speaker 1: and I have no I don't have Brett Behar's email,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any contact with him. If I did,
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  Speaker 1: I would have made these suggestions directly to him, but
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  Speaker 1: just for shits and giggles and for my own Twitter followers,
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  Speaker 1: I put forward three questions suggested to Brettbear for the
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  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris interview, and the first one that I suggested
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  Speaker 1: of the three was quote, at what point did you
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  Speaker 1: first suspect that Joe Biden was not physically capable of
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  Speaker 1: winning and serving another term?
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  Speaker 2: And why did you stay silent about it?
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  Speaker 1: Now, this is a topic about what she has never
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  Speaker 1: really been truly asked, not in a legitimate way, and
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  Speaker 1: so it was the subject that was most important to me.
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  Speaker 1: But the way that you ask the question on such
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  Speaker 1: a topic, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think was really important.
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  Speaker 1: And as it turned out, Brett Bear did ask about
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  Speaker 1: this topic. He did so in a pretty brilliant fashion
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  Speaker 1: because he set it up by discussing how she and
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  Speaker 1: her campaign have been going after Donald Trump for his
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: mental fitness or his alleged lack of mental fitness, which
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is really, when you think about it, and absolutely bonkers
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: strategy in a rational world.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I realize we don't live in a rational world anymore.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: But for Harris and Barack Obama to make it a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: central theme of their clothes argument that I almost said,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden, holy Freudian slip batman. For Donald Trump to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: not be mentally fit for the office, that's your central
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: theme when both of you took part in an obvious.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Cover up of the current.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: President's lack of mental fitness. I mean, that's gaslighting to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a brand new extreme. That's just unbelievable. And the fact
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that they've gotten away with it, by and large because
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the media is just sitting on their hands, going, oh yeah, well,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: let's talk about Donald Trump's lack of mental fitness.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: What in what world are you living?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: These people just took part in the cover up of
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a guy whose mental fitness is obviously far worse than Trump's,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: at least when it comes to mental acuity, and you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: have the audacity to make this a central campaign theme.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: So Bear starts off and it makes an entryway into
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: this topic by setting Harris up on this issue of well,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you've gone after Trump's mental fitness, and then Bear goes I.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Was watching it, so I'm going, is he really gonna
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: do this?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Is he going to go into this exactly the way
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that I think he should and the way that I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: suggested that he should do so well. He then asked
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the question, when did you first notice that President Biden's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: faculties appeared.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: To be diminished?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Which isn't exactly what I suggested, which was, again, at
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what point did you first suspect that Joe Biden was
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: not physically capable of winning and serving another term?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But that's pretty dard close.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm not suggesting that this was the inspiration, but
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it's just a weird coincidence. And here's what the entire
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: very telling exchange sounded like on Fox News Channel, because Harris,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I wish you could see her face. She was clearly
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a bit stunned and confused, and decides, after a slight pause,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to go into a diatribe about Donald Trump, that that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: About Donald Trump.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about her cover up and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: her role in the cover up of Joe Biden's lack
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of mental acuity and why it is which we still
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: don't know why, why it is that he dropped out
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of the presidential race, handing her the nomination. And here's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: what it sounded like during the Brett Barer Kamala Harris interview.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: You've called Donald Trump he's misguided. You say, now he's
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: he's not well, you say he's mentally not stable. Let
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: me ask you this, and you told many interviewers that
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Joe Biden was on his game, that ran around circles
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: on his staff. When did you first notice that President
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Joe Biden, I have watched in from the Oval office
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: to the situation room, and he has the judgment and
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: the experiment and experienced to do exactly what he has
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: done in making very important decisions on behalf of the
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: American people.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Joe Biden is not on the ballot. I understand Donald Trump.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Donald Trump, we talked about it, and Donald.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Trump George Clooney so within a few minutes of talking
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought, this
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: was not the same Joe Biden that we saw on.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: The debate stage is on the bout.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I understand you met with him at least once a
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: week for three and a half years. You didn't have
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: any concerns.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: which is why the people who know him best, including
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: leaders of our national security community, have all spoken out
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: people who worked for him in the Oval office.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Now, again, just to be clear, I have no idea,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm not even suggesting that, you know, my tweet
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: was why that question was asked in the way that
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I do think that Bair did an excellent job.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I would believe that sense, whether coincidentally or not,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he was essentially copying my suggestion, But I thought that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: was the best way you could possibly do it. Now,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the response, which is the most important part of this,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was not the worst thing that Harris could have said.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think her avoiding the answer was probably
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: her best play here. It's a bit like with illegal immigration.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: She's a guilty defendant. She has no good defense here
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: because the facts are against her, and so to ignore
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it and to attack Donald Trump is always going to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: be a good play for her, especially when it comes
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to her base. But I would like to believe that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there are at least some people who watched that interview
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: who were not Trump voters, or maybe we're considering voting
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for Harris, who thought, well, wait a minute, you didn't
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: answer that question. That's a really important question, and instead
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you decided to attack Donald Trump in a way that's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: awfully hypocritical. I mean, I think the average person can
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: see the hypocrisy and the absurdity of that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, so you didn't notice. I mean, there's
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: probably only two options for Harris on the Biden issue.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Either, you're an imbecaul who had no idea despite the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: fact that you are meeting with Biden at least once
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a week and you're around him all the time.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You're an imbecale if you didn't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Realize that he was diminished mentally to the point where
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: he had to drop out of the race. So that's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: your first option is no, I'm an imbecile I had
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: no idea. Or two, I helped cover it up because
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that he was going to eventually
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: drop out and make me the presidential nominee. Or maybe
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I did and I just wanted to stay quiet for
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: my own benefit because I needed to be loyal to him.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Otherwise he wasn't going to endorse me. That's I guess
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: another possibility here. But the basics of this, there's only
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: two choices. I'm an idiot and didn't realize he was
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: mentally diminished, or I took part in the cover up
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: because I thought it was best for my own personal
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: political future.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: As well as the Democratic parties.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Well, neither of those answers are viable, so she avoids
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: answering the question in totality which interrational world should have
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: some price.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: If it has any price, because we clearly do not
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: live interrational world. There was a somewhat similar question that
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Behar asked, which I thought was really well done, which
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: deals with the issue of the entire Harris campaign having
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the theme of a new path forward and turning the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: page from our past. Of course, he did not ask
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: which I wish he would have, about her constantly saying
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we need to be unburdened by what has been, which
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: is a slightly different issue I think actually maybe even
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: more important issue, because that to me tells says to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: me and should say to everybody. When you say we
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: need to be unburdened by what has been, that's our
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: entire history, that's our constitution, that's who we are as
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a country, and it's a phrase that is associated with Marxism.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: But Baar didn't go there.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Instead, he talked in general terms about this campaign theme
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and essentially ends up asking the question turn the page
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: from what you're the incumbent vice president. And here is
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: another example of where Harris's response is inherently problematic, very
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: very telling, and the way I interpreted it was basically
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I was reminded of a Scooby Doo episode.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: This is going to be a weird Ziggler analogy where
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the you.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Know, the classic Scooby Doo ends with the culprit being
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: caught and saying we would have gotten away with this
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: if not for those medaling kids. Well, as you listen
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to this, especially Harris's response at the end where she's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: talking about, well, you know, Donald Trump's been running for
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: president for all these years and it's just caused all
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: these problems, I feel like that's a pretty good metaphor where,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you know, if Trump just hadn't been running forget about
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the fact that he was only president for four years,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: if he hadn't been running all this time, we might
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: have gotten away with all this not for those medaling kids.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that works or not, but here
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was the exchange between Bear and Harris on the issue
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of Okay, we're turning the page, but turning the page
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: from what and Harris's response, once again is essentially just
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Your campaign slogan is a new way forward, and it's
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: time to turn the page. You've been vice president for
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: three and a half years. So what are you turning
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: the page from.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, turning the page from the last
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: decade in which we have been burdened with the kind
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: and implemented to divide our country and have Americans literally
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: point fingers.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: At each other.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Rhetoric and an approach to leadership that suggests that the
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: strength of a leader is based on who you beat
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: down instead of what we all know. The strength of
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: leadership is based on who you lift up, the strength
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: of an American president, which is one who understands that
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: the vast majority of us have more in common than
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: what separates us.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Of people.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: That is about turning the page on rhetoric that people
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: are frankly exhausted of.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: Brett. More than seven percent of.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: People tell the country is on the wrong track. They
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: say the country is on the wrong track. If it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: on the wrong track, that track follows three and a
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: half years of you being vice president and President Biden
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: being president. That is what they're saying, seventy nine percent
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: of them. Why are they saying that If you're turning
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: the page. You've been in office for three and a half.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Years, and Donald Trump has been running for office. You've
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: been the person helping you and I both know what
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about. You and I both know what I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: actually what are you talking about? What I'm talking.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: About is that over the last decade, people have the power.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: But listen, over the last decade, it is clear to
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: me and certainly the Republicans who are on stage with me,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the former chief of staff to the President Donald Trump,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: former defense secretaries, national security advisor, and his vice president
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: one that he is unfit to serve, that he is unstable,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: that he is dangerous, and that people are exhausted with
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: someone who professes to be a leader who spends full
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: time demeaning and engaging in personal grievances and it being
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: about him instead of great American people.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: People aren't tired of.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: That, that's the case. Why is half the country supporting him?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Why is he beating you in a lot of swing states.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Why if he's as bad as you say that half
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: of this country is now supporting this person who could
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: be the forty seventh president of the United States. Why
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: is that happening.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: This is a little election for president of the United States.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: It's not supposed to be.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Easy, I know, but it's not supposed to be It
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: is not supposed to be a misguided.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: I would never say that about the American.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: People now, to be fair to Harris as an anti
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Trump conservative, I actually do understand what she's trying to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: say there as she was pleading to.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Brett, I'll come on, Brett, you know what I'm talking about.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I actually did know what she was talking about.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a really terrible political answer under
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: these circumstances, which is why.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: She didn't want to go fully into it, and she tried.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: To rely on that well, you know what I'm talking
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: about because it just sounds so whiny, because everybody knows
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: that Trump has only been president for four years, and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I would think most people think that his last year
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: was essentially taken away from him or he abdicated during
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the COVID panic. But okay, whatever, you know, twelve of
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the last sixteen years Democrats have been in the White House.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump has only been president for four years, and yes,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: his running for a third time was extremely disruptive and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I believe incredibly selfish. I mean, I think it was
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: one of the most narcissistic and selfish political decisions.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: In American history.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're impeached twice, you lose, you know, the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: whole COVID thing happens, you crap the bed, You're facing
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: all sorts of legal problems, You're not particularly politically popular,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: your candidates get crushed in the twenty twenty two midterm elections.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: The proper and right thing to do is to not run.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: For the presidential nomination.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Trump should have endorsed Ronda Santis and supported him fully
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and stepped aside.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: That would have been the right thing to do.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: For the country. It also would have been the right
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: thing to do, period. But that's not what makes up
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And so I'm fully understanding and acknowledging of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the reality of what Harris is talking about, But I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: just don't think that works politically in this situation.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: When you are confronted on your.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Primary campaign theme of a new path forward, let's turn
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the page, and you're trying to say, well, we're turning
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the page from someone who's not even president, and oh,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: By the way, my primary campaign surrogate is Barack Obama,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: who became president in two thousand and nine. We're not
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: going back. It's a new path forward. We're turning the page.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any damn sense. So I thought
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that was very effective by Brett Bhaer, and generally I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: thought the entire interview was really great journalism, especially in
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: comparison to what has become the new pathetic standard for
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: these interviews. So my hat's off to Brett bhar I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: thought he regardless of whether or not he used my
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: suggestion for one of his questions or not, I thought
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: he did a great job. I thought, under very difficult circumstances,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: for reasons that I've already documented. I mean, this was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: as close to a ten as you're gonna get, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: it's never gonna be a ten, especially under very very
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: difficult circumstances. But from Bear's perspective, I thought he did
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: an absolutely outstanding job. To be fair to Harris, I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: thought she, you know, took chicken shit and turned it
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: into chicken salad. I mean, these are very bad facts
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: for her. Most of these questions were very difficult for
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: her because there were no good answers, especially on the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Biden coup issue. And you know, she did what she
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: needed to do for her base, which was to fight back,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: attack Trump and you know, play the victim card when
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it came to.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Fox News Channel. That's all she needed to do.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But in the course of that happening, I think she
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: lost that opportunity that she was trying to create at
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the day when she gave that outreach speech,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you know, at the Washington Crossing Bridge, where she's trying
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: to appeal to moderate Republicans, and even I found it
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to be persuasive if I thought it was credible, which
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Then the interview on Fox
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: News Channel was really the great opportunity to cash that
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: theme in, and it.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Did not happen. It did not happen at all.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Now, how many votes were moved, I have no way
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of knowing. There's very little evidence in the polling so
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: far that significant numbers of votes in either direction were moved.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: But you can tell a lot from the reaction of
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the media and of liberals online and the woke cope
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: on this interview was very, very strong. And the reaction
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to this interview really might have been the most important
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: part of this entire event because it further exposed the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: massive and incredibly dangerous and depressing divide in this country
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: among political lines, and how our perceptions are now basically
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent dictated by the prism, the political prism
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: through which we see reality, where we're all looking at
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: things through a jaundice partisan perspective. We're all in our
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: own information bubbles and silos, and nobody ever acknowledges that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the other side was right or their side was wrong
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: because they don't have to, because they can go on
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: social media and they can get the reaction that they want.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: They can choose the media covers that they want. The
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: left wing media provides liberals with, Hey, she didn't do
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that bad. She might even eat down of victory, and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you know, Fox News China was unfair and let's all
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: move on.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Well. To me, it was pretty.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Clear from the media reaction and the liberal reaction that
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: they felt very insecure about this interview. I think a
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: lot of lefties in the media felt insecure about the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: interview from a journalistic perspective because they were like they
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: had to be at some level like holy crap. So
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that's what a real interview looks like, or at least
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that's what it used to look like, especially when you
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: have an almost completely unvetted Democratic presidential nominee who was
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: handed the nomination in an unprecedented fashion and has never
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: been vetted properly in her entire career. So the impetus,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the necessity for tough questioning is ramped up significantly, at
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: least it should be.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: So. The liberal media was I think, at some level.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe even just subconsciously embarrassed by the fact that they
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: were exposed as a bunch of hacks, because everyone that's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: interviewed Harris previous league, except maybe Bill Whittaker at sixty minutes,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: did a really pathetic job, and Brett Bear single handedly
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: exposed that. But I really do think that the most
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: important part of the entire Bear Harris interview was seen
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in the massive divide in the perceptions and the reactions
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to it. I mean, my god, people on the right
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: think that this was the end of her campaign. They
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: really do. Trump fans thought that this interview ended her campaign.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you, it did not.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, we live in a world where that's almost impossible.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: You have to have, you know, what happened at the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: debate between Trump and Biden. You have to have Biden
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: literally crap as pants, almost literally have a complete meltdown,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and then you need three weeks of relentless and unprecedented
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: media pressure from his own team, including you know, the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: efforts by Nancy Pelosi to create a coup and and
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you know, essentially create a code red against Joe Biden.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: You need that entire perfect storm of circumstances to occur
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to actually get a result, which was Biden finally feeling
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: like he had to be forced out of the race.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Well that nothing like that happened here, partially because it
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was never gonna happen because Democrats don't have another option now.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: They at least had a theoretical other option after the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: first Biden Trump debate. There's no other options now, so
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: they're stuck with Harris. They ain't abandoning her, no fucking way,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and they did not abandon her. So the left things
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: she did great, and the meat the interview was unfair,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the right things that she did.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Terrible, and her campaign is over.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I will say that one of the big tells that
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: she didn't do very well in this interview, and that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: this interview really was, at least in a rational world.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Damaging to her was the way that Saturday Night Live
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: decided to depict it. They began this past weekend's episode
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: with a live open where they had Alec Baldwin, of
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: all people.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Play Brett Bher.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin, a guy who because of a technicality and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know, might have been a just decision, but I mean,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: he killed the person and there was a very very
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: good chance he was going to be in prison for
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: manslaughter at this point, and instead he's playing Brett Bhaer
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: in the live open on Saturday Night Live. That was
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the first part of this. I'm like, holy shit, Alec Baldwin.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But more importantly, maybe the that was the substance of this,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of this skit that they were doing, because they didn't
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: even try to be funny. Now there's times when sella
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that live just is not funny because they're not very
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: good anymore. But I didn't even perceive they were trying
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to be funny. This was complete damage control, not humor.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: This was you know, there are those who have claimed
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I've had people message me personally, oh, Saturday Night Live
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: is abandoning Harris and I'm always like, not really, Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: they're they're maybe telling half a joke about her, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: they they're never you know, leave a mark on her.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: They never, so to me, they've been very protective of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Harris and the skits that they've done so far. There
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: are some things, you know, like Dana Carvey's Biden I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: don't think is helpful to the narrative surrounding Harris, but
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I've not perceived that SNL was going after Harris. All well,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that narrative is dead now because what they did this
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: past weekend was complete and total damage control. They made
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: it seem as if this interview was a hack job.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: It was unfair that Fox News Channel was lying that
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: they were out of control, and you know that Harris
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: did great. I mean, this was this was not even
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: intended to be humor not even intended. This was complete
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: damage control, which tells you a lot, because if it
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't damaging at least at some level, they wouldn't need
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to do damage control. So so my basic bottom line
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: on this was Brett behar did great, Harris did okay
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: under very difficult circumstances. The left and the right their
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: perceptions were delusional, But I think the left was more
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: delusional in their perception of this interview than the right was.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, for all into and purposes,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: if we lived in a remotely rational world, this would
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: be very damaging to Harris's campaign, not because she performed
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: all that badly, but because she got exposed once again
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: using the analogy that she is a guilty defendant, enduring
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a prosecutorial cross examination that exposed that her candidacy is guilty.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: How many people saw that, I don't know how many
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of the right people saw that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I have no way of knowing.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And again I'm always skeptical, especially in this campaign which
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: has had multiple massive earthquakes not result in much change.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: When it came to the polling.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I'm always skeptical that any event is going to have
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a big impact on the polling, and we've not seen
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: any indication of that as of yet, although it might
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: be a little bit too soon to judge that. As
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: far as my appearance that was scheduled on US Nation
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to discuss this, I was very disappointed that that did
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: not turn out as I thought was going to occur.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: When we taped the last episode of the podcast, I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: told you that I was scheduled to go on at
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the top of the show on Dan Abram's News Nation broadcast,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: which is at nine pm on the East Coast on
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the News Nation television network. I was scheduled to go
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: on with Heraldo Rivera, which I thought was kind of
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: humorous and I was really looking forward to this, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that was even before I realized that the interview was
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: taking place in my old home hometown of Washington crossing Pennsylvania.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And I even had a good joke ready to go
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: about the Hessians and the casualties of the Battle of
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Trenton in this particular interview.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: But I've learned something in my long media career.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: When it comes to being booked on these types of shows,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: there is a direct correlation and maybe even a causation.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's a direct correlation.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Between how much I wanted to do a particular appearance
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and the chances that I'm gonna get bumped as a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: non celebrity. I have never one hundred percent known why
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: there is this correlation, but it absolutely exists. And the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: only reason I even mentioned that I had been booked
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in the last episode of the podcast was because I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: was told I was on with Heraldo, and I thought, okay,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: well that's pretty set in stone. You know, it's the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: first segment. It makes sense. Actually, this is going to
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: be a really good segment. Heraldo and I are going
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to go at each other pretty good on this because
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he's endorsed Harris. I'm fully aware that going on with
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Heraldo has challenges because he doesn't shut up, and because
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: of his celebrity and you know, I guess just gravitas.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: At least at News Nation.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: He's allowed to go on for as long as he wants,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to be on delay, and it's very
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: very difficult to interrupt, you know, in a truck in
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: front of my house. So I knew there would be challenges,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: but I felt like I could handle this, and I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was really looking forward to it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Well, not long.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Before I mean actually a remarkably short amount of time
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: before the appearance actually happened. I got told that I
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: was going to be on in a different segment to
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: talk about Tom Brady and the conflict of interests that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: he has when it comes to announcing NFL football games.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Is now a part owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what, how I mean this almost didn't happen,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: because I was pretty pissed.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: But we worked it out. But I got bumped for
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: former Trump.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary Sewan Speizer, which didn't make me
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: particularly happy. The explanation didn't make any sense. I honestly
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened. There's all sorts of possibilities for
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: why I got bumped for Shawn Spicer. But I'm not
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a big fan of Shawn Spicer. I don't think he's
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: very bright. I don't think he's particularly good on television.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, he and I went on one time together
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: on News Nation during the primaries, and Sean Spicer actually
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: predicted that Donald Trump would end up doing the Republican
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: primary debates because it was the right thing to do,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: and I basically laughed at his face. I mean, how
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: could he be Donald Trump's White House Press secretary and
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: not understand Donald Trump even a little bit?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: And here I am.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I met Donald Trump once for less than five minutes
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: backstage at the Today Show, and I can tell you
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I knew he was never going to do any Republican debates,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: So I was not particularly thrilled to one to be
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: bumped or two to be bumped for Sean Spicer, I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: felt a little bit like the tenth man on the
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers being taken out of the game to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: be replaced by Brownie James. By the way, just as
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: a head's up, a programming note be prepared that for
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: as long as this podcast exists, I have no law
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: idea how long that's going to be. On this our
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: two hundredth episode, but I will probably be making multiple
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: recurring jokes about Bronni James, the son of Lebron James,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: because now that the NBA season is getting underway, it
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: is so unbelievably obvious that he is a joke, that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: He has no business being in the league, that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: He is there purely because he's Lebron James' son, and
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the sports media has basically abandoned attacking him when he
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: has absolutely no business being there. It's obvious nepotism, it's embarrassing,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: it's a joke, and it's particularly hilarious that I just
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: thought about this this morning, that this is all happening
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: in the state of California, which has just made it
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: illegal for private schools.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: This is true. We talked about this in the podcast.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Made it illegal for private schools to give any admission
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: advantages to legacy can dates.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: So the state of.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: California just made it illegal for there to be legacies
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: at private schools. And here we have the Lakers with
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Bronnie James on the team for no other reason than
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the fact that he is the son of the star
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: player and has no business being in the league. And oh,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: by the way, what a racist country we live? What
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: a racist country where a black man can get his
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: son who has no business even remotely being employed a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: very lucrative position with the Los Angeles Lakers simply out
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: of pure nepotism.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So, anyway, be prepared.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: That's going to be the fallback joke on this podcast
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: going forward, because it's just absolutely unbelievable, especially since the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: media is just pretending that somehow Bronnie James is there
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: for some other reason than the fact that that lebron On.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: James is engaging in nepotism.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so I got bummed for Sean Spicer. That did
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: not make me particularly happy. The Tom Brady appearance actually
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: went pretty well. I had a decent joke about Taylor
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Swift in there.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I posted that on my Twitter feed. If you want
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: to find it.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's why the News Nation appearance that had
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: been promoted on this podcast in the lastep last episode
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: did not happen. I want to move now to the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Al Smith Dinner, which, in my opinion, could and I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: don't think this is going to happen because I'm not
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: seeing any signs of it, but I think could have
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: more political significance than the Brett Baer Kamala Harris interview.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: And specifically, what I'm referring to is how Jim Gaffigan,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: comedian Jim Gaffigan handled his duties as the MC of
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: this dinner, this famous dinner that happens before every presidential election.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: It's a fundraiser for Catholic charities. It happens in New
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: York City. It's run by the Catholic Church. Kamala Harris
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: decided not to participate in it this year, at least
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: not live. She sent a really bad video with Molly
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Shannon recreating her Catholic girl character from a million years
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: ago on Saturday Night Live.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: It didn't even make any sense.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: But Jim Gaffigan and by the way, six degrees of
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: John Zigler, I went to school at Georgetown with Jim Gaffigan.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: We had a lot of mutual friends. I broadcast to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: his football games. He actually played football Division III at
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: the time at Georgetown. So I was very much aware
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: of Jim Gaffigan, and I was kind of surprised on
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of different levels won the Gaffigan even took
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: this gig because it's not that high profile a gig,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and it's fraught with danger. I mean, I don't know
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: what's in it for Jim Gaffgan. Jim Gaffigan is not
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a conservative, not a Republican. He's made anti Trump statements
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: in the past. He's about as mainstream as it gets.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: He is Catholic, having gone to Georgetown, though you don't
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: have to be Catholic to go to Georgetown. Georgetown's barely
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: a Catholic school anymore. But so it made sense that
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: they would ask him. You know, he's an Irish Catholic.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: But I was kind of amazed that he decided to
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: do this, and he himself alluded to the dangers of
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: him taking this gig at the beginning of his presentation.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's important for the context of where I'm
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: going with this.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: So here's comedian.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Jim Gaffigan acknowledging a couple of things here. One the
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: personal predicament that he's in. But also listen to what
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: he's telling you about the nature of the entertainment business
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: and how dredibly biased it is against Republicans and specifically
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: against Trump, where he fully understands that it is in
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: his self interest to not say anything nice about Donald Trump,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: to be on Harris's side, and to attack Trump at
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: every opportunity.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: And he's one hundred percent right. But here he was
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: admitting it. As the MC of the Al Smith dinner.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: You know, this event has been referred to as the
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Catholic met galap percent of Americans identify as Catholic. Catholics
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: will be a key demographic in every battle ground state.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, why is Vice President Harris not here?
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, consider this.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: This is a room full of Catholics and Jews in
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: New York City. This is a layup for the Democratic nominee.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I mean in her defense, I mean she did find
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: time to appear on the View Howard Stern Colbert and
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: the longtime staple of campaigning to call her Daddy podcast.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: All Right, So we have a situation, and this is
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: important for the context of where I'm going here, Folks,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: bear with me. So we have a situation where a
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: liberal fully understands that it is against his self interest
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to attack Harris or to say anything nice about Trump,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and then he proceeds to go into.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Basically a stand up routine, which was pretty good. He
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: had some good lines.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: He was an equal opportunity offender, and I thought he
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: did a really good job. But the moment where I
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: went holy shit was when Jim Gaffigan dared to go
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: where nobody in the mainstream news media other than I
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: guess you'd call Fox News Channel mainstream other than Brett
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Baar did during the Kamala Harris interview where he raises
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the issue of the Biden coup. And not only does
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Jim Gaffigan raise the issue of the Biden coup, he
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: does so in devastating fashion, in a way that is
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: substantively dead on funny cutting. And I just thought, oh
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: my god, if the Trump campaign had in their wildest dreams,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: but what is the best thing that could possibly happen
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: at this event, Well, I don't know, let's see, maybe
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: the guy who plays Tim Waltz on Saturday Night Live,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: a guy who's well known as a liberal, a guy
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: who's a pretty big celebrity, has a significantly large fan base,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: happens to be Catholic, a voting group that we're doing
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: pretty darn well with publicly outlines the hypocrisy of the
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party when it comes to democracy being so important,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: and how they completely abandon democracy to get rid of
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: their presidential candidate, replaced them with somebody else without any
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: votes being cast.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: And it would be really.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Great if all that happened in a way that was short,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: concise and at least a little bit funny. That would
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: be our dream scenario if you're the Trump campaign, folks,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened here. I could not believe it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I still cannot believe it. But here was Jim Gaffigan
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: prosecuting the case as I have tried to do for
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: many weeks now better than anybody else has, in a short,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: concise and humorous fashion.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: And here's what it sounded like at the Al Smith dinner.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: The Democrats have been telling us Trump Trump's reelection is
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: a threat to democracy. In fact, they were so concerned
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: of this threat they staged a coup, ousted their democratically
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: elected incumbent and installed Kamala Harris. In other words, all
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: her dreams have come true. It really makes you consider
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: the power of prayer, right, Cardinal Sometimes prayers take three
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: and a half years. And at George Clooney op ed.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: When I saw that, I'm like, holy crap, stop the presses.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: This is manna from heaven from the Trump campaign, and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: you know, the Trump campaign. Twitter feed posted the video
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and it obviously went viral online for reasons that you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: know are clear to anyone who's been following this. I mean,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: this was this was the quiet part out loud. This
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: was an admission from the other side. This is a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: liberal again, the guy that plays Tim Wallace on Saturday
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Night Live.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, you.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Can't find somebody in this day and age that would
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: have more credibility with swing voters in this situation than
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: maybe Jim Gaffigan. I mean, this is way better that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: if a liberal mainstream news media member ever said this,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: which of course they never would, because this is this
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: is the third rail of this campaign. You can't talk
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: about this. We're not allowed to discuss this. We have
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: moved on from the Biden coup. We're not going to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: talk about any of this, because this is very troubling.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: This we understand, this is a dangerous topic. And if
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the American people fully understand what total bullshit this was,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: this would be very.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Problematic for Harris's campaign.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Well, Jim Gaffigan just blew that up, but of course
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: people have to be exposed to it. And if the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Trump campaign, I mean this totally sincerely. I tweeted this,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: even tagged one of Trump's campaign managers on the tweet.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: I have no idea if Susie Wiles, Pat Summerle's daughter
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: ever even views any of her tweets, or what kind
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: of power she would have to make this happen. But
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: here's the reality, and I mean this sincerely. If the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Trump campaign does not take the clip that you just heard,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: which fits perfectly into a minute long commercial with a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: good setup, and close. If they do not, it was
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: that in a campaign commercial in swing states, they do
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: not deserve to win the election period, end of sentence.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: And I have no reason to believe that they will.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe they will, but my guess is they probably won't.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Why they won't, I have no idea, but if every
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Swing voter was exposed to that clip.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: You told me that if you told me that every.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Swing voter in the Swing States was going to be
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: exposed to that clip, I would tell you the election
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: was over that Trump would win.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I believe that sincerely because it would cause.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Those undecided voters to think about her candidacy in a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: way they never have before. From a non political and frankly,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: even left wing source, done in a funny and cutting
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and concise fashion. You cannot ask for anything better if
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: you're the Trump campaign.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: So if they don't take advantage of it, then then
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, they don't deserve to win.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: As far as how Trump did at the Al Smith dinner,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you know, this was another classic example of where the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: left and the right sees things through very different prisms
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: of reality. The right, I thought, overplayed how great Trump did. Frankly,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I thought he was just mailing it in. I'm not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: even sure he read most of his jokes before his performance.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: But that being said, there was a lot of good material.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: My favorite joke, and I think the favorite joke of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, came when Donald Trump discussed the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: issue of white dudes for Harris and here was Donald
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Trump explaining why he's not concerned about the group white
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: dudes for Harris.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 7: There's a group called white Dudes for Harris. Have you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: seen this? White dudes for Harris? Anybody know why some
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: of you hear white dudes. It doesn't sound like it.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: But I'm not worried about them at all because their
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: wives and their wives lovers are all voting for me.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Now, that's funny.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And what's really funny about it, of course, is often
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: the case is that it's true. And everybody in that
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: room instantly understood why it was funny and why it
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: was true, because if you're a white dude for Harris,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: you're a beta and your wife might be screwing somebody
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: else who's going to end up voting for Donald Trump
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: because they're the alphas, and everybody instantly understood it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: It didn't need any explaining.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So that was good.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: That was effective, That was funny, and that was telling.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: But by and large, you know, the left, of course
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: thought that Trump did terrible and this was more evidence
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: of his mental decline. But to me, that event was
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: all about the Jim Gaffigan clip, and maybe to a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: lesser degree, the fact that Harris decided to not even
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: show up. So the Catholic vote you would think to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: whatever extent, people might be exposed to what happened. And
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I hope they're exposed more if the Gaffigan clip gets
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: more attention and gets used as an actual ad by
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. But you would think that the Catholic
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: vote in Pennsylvania and in Michigan and Wisconsin would be
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: amplified on Trump's side because of the events of that night.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Of course, you might put a pause on that when
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: we turned out to what happened in Latrobe, Pennsylvania over
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Trump was in Pennsylvania all over the place
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: over the weekend. We're going to get to McDonald's in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: just a second, but Trump was in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, in
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh area. Now, when you're in Latroe, Pennsylvania and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: you're of Donald Trump's age, especially when you're a lifelong
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: golf fanatic like Trump is, there's really only one thing
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: that comes to mind when it comes to Latrobe, Pennsylvania,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and that is Arnold Palmer, the legendary golfer very famously
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: grew up in Latrob Pennsylvania.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Used to do.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Pennz oil commercials on his tractor that he grew up
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: riding in Latrob Pennsylvania. I mean, so I get that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: when you're in Latrobe, Pennsylvania and you're Donald Trump, you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: gotta at least mention Arnold Palmer.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: I fully understand that. I fully get it.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: What I don't necessarily get is how Donald Trump decided
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: to discuss Arnold Palmer.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Because what Trump.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Did was use being in Latrobe, Pennsylvania as an up
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about how big Arnold Palmer's dick was.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not making this up, not exaggerating. It wasn't even
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that ambiguous, it wasn't even all that subtle. But that's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: what Donald Trump did. I mean, folks, may you live
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: in interesting times. We certainly do. So here let me
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: just set.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: This up a little bit more.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: You know, Arnold Palmer is a fascinating figure, obviously as
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: a lifelong golfer myself and I know about as much
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: about golf history as anybody, certainly in my age group.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I don't have against Arnold Palmer. I believe that Arnold
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Palmer was vastly overrated as a golfer. I mean, not
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: quite as much as Joe Namath was as a quarterback
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: from a very similar area of Pennsylvania. You know, Joe
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Namath was the most overrated athlete of all time. Arnold
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Palmer was probably the top ten of most overrated athletes,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: not that he wasn't great, but he never won the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Grand Slam. He played against very diminished competition during the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: height of his career. His career ended, you know, from
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: a competitive standpoint, pretty early. He certainly didn't achieve nearly
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: as much as Jack Nicholas, again, great golfer, not taking
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: anything away from that, but from perception in the in
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the perception of the average person, largely because he was
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: so good from a commercial perspective, I think the average person,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: not even golfer, thinks that Arnold Palmer was like the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: same as Jack Nicholas, that they were basically equals.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: They were not. Jack Nicholas was a.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Far far better golfer than Arnold Palmer, but it was
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: also extremely well known then Arnold Palmer was a philanderer.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Then Arnold Palmer cheated on his wife on a very
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: consistent basis. But unlike what happened with Tiger Woods, which
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Arnold Palmer had to be chuck leg about
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: and it probably had Tiger Woods really befuddled. I guarantee
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: that Tiger and Arnold had fascinating conversations after Tiger's scandal
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: blew up. Because Arnold Palmer lived in an era when
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: you got away with this, the golf media just kept
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: it quiet. By the way, the golf media tried to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: keep it quiet for Tiger, but golf got so big
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: and Tiger got so big that it went beyond the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: golf media went to the national choir, which is when
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: it ended up destroying Tiger's marriage.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that and his philandering, but Arnold Palmer didn't have
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: to deal with that.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: But by every description, by every measure, your every rumor,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: it's well known in the golf community that.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Arnold was.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Having as many extracurricular activities as Tiger Woods was in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: his heyday. So that's well documented. It's not been fully
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: ever acknowledged, like in you know, the the documentaries on
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the Golf Channel of Arnold Palmer's life.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: They won't tell you that directly.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: They might imply it about how much the women loved
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Arnold Palmer, but the reality is Arnold Palmer got around.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows this.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I had never heard for the record the story that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump decided to tell at his rally in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not true. I just have never
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: heard that. You know, certainly plausible. It certainly would be
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: consistent with a guy having the confidence to go out
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and having as many have as many affairs as Arnold
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Palmer clearly did. But here was Donald Trump deciding to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: tell the story of Arnold Palmer having a very big
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: penis so big that it impressed his fellow touring pros
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: in the shower. And here was Donald Trump talking about
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: that in Latroe, Pennsylvania.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: But Arnold Palmer was all man.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: And I say that in all due respect to women,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: and I love women.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: But this guy, this guy, this is a guy that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: was all man.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: This man was strong and tough.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: And I refused to say it. But when he took
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: showers with the other pros, they came out of there,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: they said, oh my god, that's unbelievable.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I had to say it.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: I had to say, we have women that are highly sophisticated.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Here now to be fair to Trump, which I always be.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: The statement that Trump made there, which got a lot
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: of play on social media, understandably so over the weekend,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: was not quite as bad as it's been portrayed. I mean,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: he does try to be funny about it and try
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: to be complimentary about it. I do sense in the
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: way that he talked about how he had to discuss
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: it because it's the truth, that he may have felt
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: like he made a mistake there.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if that Trump's mentality even allows
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: that possibility to come into his brain. But I mean,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: to me, it was bad, it may not have been
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: quite as bad as the Left made it out to be.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: You know, politically, a lot of people are wondering about
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: the impact of this. I'm not sure that this necessarily
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: hurts Trump all that much. I mean, when you consider
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: with all the ex mistresses of Arnold Palmer that are
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: probably still alive in Pennsylvania, this may help Trump a bit.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you appeal to all those elderly women
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: that may have slept with Arnold Palmer in Pennsylvania, you know,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: probably gives them good memories and they might be more
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: likely to.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Vote for DIALD. Trump.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Of course, there's another impact of this whole situation. You know,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Palmer is today most well known for having created this
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: product of iced tea and lemonade mixed it's being you know,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: frankly just now known as the Arnold Palmer and you know,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: his company or a company that was owned by him
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: still has his name on it.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: And so that's a.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Huge part of how especially younger people know who Arnold
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Palmer is through the iced tea and lemonade mixed drink. Well,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: going forward, telling a waiter give me an Arnold Palmer,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: or may I please have an Arnold Palmer, especially when
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: it comes from a woman, is never gonna sound exactly
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: the same again, after Donald Trump just praised the size
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: of Palmer's penis at a presidential rally in Latrope, Pennsylvania,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: just weeks before presidential election.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Folks, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: This is very bizarre stuff, but this is Donald Trump.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I do believe that he is immune to virtually all viruses,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: and in this case, we might be dealing with some
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: different types of viruses than normal. But I doubt that
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: this is gonna have an impact on the race. But
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: it does give you an insight into the bizarreness of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Trump and his campaign. And maybe the strangest part of
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: what happened was that the talking about Arnold Palmer's penis
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: overshadowed and made look less strange by comparison the fact
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown, former wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: a guy who is widely considered to be insane, especially
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: considering the way that his career ended, where he literally
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: just took off his uniform and ran off the field
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: waving to the crowd.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: A guy who at one point was the.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Best wide receiver in the National Football League by far,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: but seemingly has lost his mind. He was there not
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: just to endorse Donald Trump, but to do so.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Publicly at the microphone.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: They actually gave Antonio Brown the microphault, and Brown did
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: not disappoint in his endorsement of Donald Trump.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: And here's what that sounded like.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: But before I get to deep in my speech, I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 8: want to say, I know the media is gonna call
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: me crazy and Trump crazy for having me speaking here,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: but I want to make this clear. We are not
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: they are, you know Kamale Harris and Tim Wasas You
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: really know they want to put tampons in the boy's bathroom.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: Is that crazy?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: That's really insane?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 8: And by the way, tampon Tim wass he isn't a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: real football coach. He could never guard me. Guys, how
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: is business? Benness will be booming going against Tim Wats.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: Tempon Tim Watts and be really booming going against him.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Now, to be fair to the Trump campaign and their
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: use of Antonio Brown in Pittsburgh, the Harris campaign actually used.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Lizzo in Detroit.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Now, Lizzo is somebody who's been accused by her employees
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: of doing all sorts of very terrible, nasty things that
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: should be cancelable events if you know, she wasn't a black, lesbian,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: obese female, which gives her all sorts of PC protection.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: But Lizzo actually spoke publicly in Detroit on behalf of
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Harris and said, basically using a statement that was made
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: last week by Donald Trump, that in Detroit that if
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Harris becomes president, the rest of the country will become
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: like Detroit. Well, Lizzo echoed almost word for word, I think,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: on purpose what Trump said, Which so you have Liszo
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: making an argument that I don't think is particularly effective,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: whether it's in Michigan or not. In Michigan that if
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Harris is president, Yeah, the rest of the country will
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: become like Detroit.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not even sure people in Detroit want.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: That to be the case. So I don't know how
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: that is particularly effective. And so, you know, when it
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: comes to the Antonio Brown versus Lisso matchup, I'm not
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: sure that either side wins there. When it comes to Michigan,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, right now, although the polling tends to be
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: getting I think a little less stable as we get
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: closer to the election, But there have been several polls,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: some of them have right wing bias, that indicate that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Michigan right now might, underline, might be the place where
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Trump has the best opportunity to pull a blue wall
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: upset that right now, potentially the most vulnerable brick in
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: the blue wall might be Michigan. And there's been a
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: lot of speculation about the Arab community, the Muslim community
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: not supporting Harris. MSNBC did a report where they kind
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: of had a little focus group with Arab women in
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Michigan and none of them were even considering voting for Harris.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Now that it was a very very very very.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Small sample size, but I think that, you know, there
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: were some people on the left that were taken aback
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: by that. I've always found that narrative to be a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: little overrated because I don't think those people are going
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: to vote for Trump. But of course if they don't
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: vote for Harris, that would be significant in a state
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: that could be as close as Michigan. But right now,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm somebody who almost wrote Michigan off
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: and never did that, but I came close. I would
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: have at one point, not that long ago, I would
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: have put Michigan as the state most likely of the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: seven swing states for Harris to win.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I no longer feel that way. I think that right now.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are pretty equal. I mean, it
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: changes almost on a day to day basis, and the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: betting markets are different on this.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: The projection models.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: By some of the so called statistical experts are all different.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: They're all in the same ballpark. But some have Trump
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: with the best chance to win in Pennsylvania. Some now
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: have it in Michigan or Wisconsin. The key issue is
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: that Harris pretty much has to win all three and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: statistically that's going to be a heavy lift unless the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: polling is currently wrong, which I think is still possible.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: You know, in general, and I think the Lizzo Antonio
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Brown situation at oral Bamber's venis and other things really
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: do indicate that these are not just two horrible candidates,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: they're two rather poorly run campaigns, at least with regard
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: to general strategy. I mean, like, for instance, the Harris
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: strategy going after Trump's mental fitness after the Biden coup
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and cover up. And oh, by the way, after the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: guy was shot in the head and immediately got up
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: and yelled fight, fight fight, I mean, I'm sorry that
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: just happened.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm as big a Trump critic as there is.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: It's really difficult to argue that somehow Trump is even
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: close to the same place that Biden was. Am I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: concerned about Trump's age, absolutely, I mean, if he wins,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: he'll be well into his eighties as president of the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: United States, and things can go down real fast, as
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: we saw with Joe Biden. But the Harris campaign has
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: no right to be making this an issue after what
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: they did with regard to the Biden cover up. But
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: I also think the Trump campaign has missed all sorts
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: of opportunities.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: California, California, California.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: As I always say, e EI has never become a
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: major part of this campaign.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: When Harris is the personification of DEI.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I have doubts whether or not they're gonna use the
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