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Set 1: Baker Off-Key (w/Trey Wingo) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Trey Wingo is with us on behalf of all Things
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  Speaker 1: Trey Wingo. What are you promoting today? Because I asked
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  Speaker 1: you before we got started and it was just a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of Trey Wingo stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, yeah, kind of thanks for having me on again,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll go through it.
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  Speaker 3: We've got the The Wingo Network and we've got Straight Facts,
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  Speaker 3: Homie podcasts and the Trey Wingo Show on that. We
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  Speaker 3: also have Trey Wingo Golf, which the show I do
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  Speaker 3: with Justin Ray, the Tiger Woods of Golf Researchers we
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  Speaker 3: have that.
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  Speaker 2: Those are both on my YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: Pages, The Wingo Network and Trey Wingo Golf. We also
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  Speaker 3: have launched a new football show called Inside FB Show
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube. That's with me, hall of Famer Brian Urlocker,
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer Chris Carter, longtime head coach Marvin Lewis,
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  Speaker 3: and former GM of the Arizona Cardinals Steve Kaim And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're just plugging along man having.
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  Speaker 2: A good time.
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  Speaker 1: Mikey Is he rattled off those names. Seemed very impressed
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  Speaker 1: that as well.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, of course it's impressive.
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  Speaker 5: I just my mind went a different place and I'm
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  Speaker 5: wondering how the hell do I become the Tiger.
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  Speaker 4: Woods of anything? Like, what do I have to do
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  Speaker 4: to become the Tiger Woods of anything in this life?
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  Speaker 2: Justin Ray.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Justin Ray is blowing up and I'm
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  Speaker 3: so happy he's doing the PGA Tour stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's going to do some TV shows. Justin Ray.
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  Speaker 3: I met Justin when he was an ESPN researcher and
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  Speaker 3: we just hit it off. First time we ever worked
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  Speaker 3: together was at the twenty ten US Open a Pebble Beach.
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  Speaker 3: And this guy just has a database of golf information.
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  Speaker 3: I could say to him, Hey, Justin, how many times
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  Speaker 3: did babe Didrickson? Zahari has hit the fairway in the
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  Speaker 3: nineteen forty three US Open and five seconds, It'll be
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  Speaker 3: sixty three percent of the time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, he's unbelievable. He's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Like he had this great nugget yesterday with Scotty Scheffler winning.
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  Speaker 3: Scotty Scheffler won by eight shots yesterday, the second win
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  Speaker 3: of the year. It was the second time he's had
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  Speaker 3: a win of eight or more shots in his career.
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  Speaker 3: That's tied for the second most in the last forty years.
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  Speaker 3: Number one is Tiger who did.
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  Speaker 2: It ten times. That's that's how he works, That's how
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  Speaker 2: he rolls.
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  Speaker 4: So he's the mel Kuiper of golf information the way Mel.
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  Speaker 3: Kiper wants to be the Justin Ray Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not certain if I'm impressed with him Mel and
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  Speaker 1: I love Mel who or if I want to love Mel.
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  Speaker 6: I know you love Mel.
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  Speaker 1: You have to have to you have to couch it
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  Speaker 1: under the I love Mel Kuiper before you say it,
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  Speaker 1: not on the back end. I'm not certain if I
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  Speaker 1: should be impressed with this person, or if I could
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  Speaker 1: tell him the geind of life.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, no, no, no, Justin is Justin is awesome,
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  Speaker 3: like he is awesome. He's also a part of the
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  Speaker 3: US men's Ryder Cup team now going to work with
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  Speaker 3: the database and help them try and get better in
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  Speaker 3: alternate shots.
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  Speaker 2: He did the same thing at the Solheim Cup.
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  Speaker 4: YEP.
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  Speaker 3: Before he got there, they had lost the last three
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  Speaker 3: alternate shots. They haven't lost one since he's just He's money.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Ray is money.
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  Speaker 4: Trey.
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  Speaker 1: The last time I saw you, we were in Lake Tahouse.
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  Speaker 1: We were at the karaoke party.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It was fantastic. It was fun. Your Your wife is amazing, amazing,
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  Speaker 1: track love her. But you and I were debating a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things as it relates to karaoke.
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  Speaker 6: One help me out here because the guys I don't.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like they.
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  Speaker 1: Don't believe me and they don't support me. Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 1: was truly awful. He thought that he won the karaoke contest,
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  Speaker 1: but he was truly awful.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, can confirm. And again, I love Baker. I love Baker.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be clear.
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  Speaker 3: I think Baker's great, but Baker is not was not
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  Speaker 3: even on the podium in terms of karaoke. Marcus Allen
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  Speaker 3: was amazing. Yes, DeMarcus Ware was incredible. I mean there
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  Speaker 3: was some real oh Anica Shornstem and her husband crushing
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  Speaker 3: Abba was together as a deal with outfits.
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  Speaker 2: Love Baker, but absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: But Baker thought, but Baker felt when he was up there,
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  Speaker 1: Baker felt like he was killing it.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know he.
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  Speaker 3: Was probably socially lubricated as we all were that evening,
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  Speaker 3: and you know I was enjoying himself.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, you were very upset because was it.
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  Speaker 1: Owen Wilson, who was the singer who was performing at
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  Speaker 1: a karaoke contest.
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  Speaker 6: You didn't like that, right, Yeah, you can't have a Jacoben.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I just called the mud when Wilson Owen Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all good. It was a long time.
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  Speaker 2: They all run together.
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  Speaker 3: They're all doing a golf thing with either you know,
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  Speaker 3: yeah Pull or Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: And Will Ferrell's involved in all of it.
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  Speaker 1: So Jacob and who I once thought was Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: I once thought he was the Jets quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: I confused them. They look alike.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob and was up there doing karaoke. He's a professional singer.
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  Speaker 1: He performed the night before at a real concert. And
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  Speaker 1: Trey had issues with a real performer taking part in
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  Speaker 1: a karaoke contest.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's like when you know, you play a pro
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  Speaker 3: am somewhere or not a prom. You're playing in a
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  Speaker 3: golf tournament somewhere, and somebody brings a guy that was
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  Speaker 3: a former professional golfer.
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  Speaker 6: No, you can't win.
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  Speaker 2: You can't win. That's illegal, Trey, That's all right.
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  Speaker 5: But Stu glossed over this when he said he thought
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  Speaker 5: that was Aaron Rodgers. He interviewed him like four podcasts
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  Speaker 5: as Aaron Rodgers and Jacob went to his credit just
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  Speaker 5: rolled with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's that's kudos to him. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: did you notice I thought Rob.
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  Speaker 2: Riggle was starting to look like Aaron Rodgers. Did you
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  Speaker 2: not see the resemblance there? Like that was thick Aaron Rodgers?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, uh Riggs funny. Yes, he is starting to look
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  Speaker 6: like it looked like him.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the picture, he's starting to look like Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Trey, you love football. How happy were you over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend? I know it's preseason? How do you do preseason?
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  Speaker 1: Were you happy just to have football on your television screens?
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  Speaker 4: Kind of?
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  Speaker 3: And I think we all are right, and we're all
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  Speaker 3: we all get into this hyper drive like I was.
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  Speaker 2: First of all.
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  Speaker 3: I was happy to have it. But I see it
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  Speaker 3: as a distraction. I see it as, oh, there's something
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  Speaker 3: going on. You know, we get to the point where
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  Speaker 3: we talk about it so much when we don't have
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  Speaker 3: it that as soon as we get.
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  Speaker 2: It, we overload and over care about this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, somebody called once and said that was
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  Speaker 3: the greatest Hall of Fame game we've ever seen, which
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  Speaker 3: is like saying that's the greatest wind sprint i've ever seen,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, I was scrolling through
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  Speaker 3: Instagram today and some guy I don't know who he is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's really good at what he does, but
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  Speaker 3: he was breaking down film of the Ravens defensive calls
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  Speaker 3: in their preseason games, Like, and I swear to got
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  Speaker 3: he said this, this is the greatest call in preseason
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  Speaker 3: so far.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, all right, sure, nay.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, it's the first week he's
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  Speaker 3: killed this still get this call by Jesse Minter and
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  Speaker 3: this they tipped off what they're doing in And she's like,
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  Speaker 3: everybody just relaxs. Okay, let's let's enjoy preseason football responsibly.
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  Speaker 3: Like I put this out there on the Straight Backs
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  Speaker 3: on We podcast, part of the Wingo Network. Understand what
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  Speaker 3: you're watching and what you're not watching. Right, we all
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  Speaker 3: want football. It's great, it's exciting. But to compare a
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  Speaker 3: preseason game to a regular season game, and you've heard
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  Speaker 3: me say this before, is like comparing a black bean
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  Speaker 3: burger to a wygu beef smash burger.
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  Speaker 2: Technically they're both burgers, but they could not be more different.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So just appreciate what you're seeing and what you're
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  Speaker 3: not seeing like, none of these coaches are game planning
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  Speaker 3: for anybody.
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  Speaker 2: They're basically, especially in the first week.
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  Speaker 3: All these coaches and coaching after are trying to do
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  Speaker 3: is we've taught these players to do this. Now, let's
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  Speaker 3: see if they can do it when there's a game simulation.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember years ago when Jamis was still with
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  Speaker 3: the Bucks and I can't remember who the cod he
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  Speaker 3: used to be, Merrill Hodge's college coach. He bounced around
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  Speaker 3: for a long time. Dak starts with a D. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember anyway, So Jamis did this incredible play where
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  Speaker 3: he was running around throwing the ball and threw it backward.
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  Speaker 3: Dirt Cutter, Dirt Cutter. It was Dirk Cutter.
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  Speaker 6: Feel better, feel better, don't you? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I do, Yes, that was going to drive I would
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  Speaker 2: have woken up at three am. It's a Dirk Cutter
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: So Jamis runs it around and throws this ridiculous pass
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  Speaker 3: that was intercepted at the goal line, and he runs
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  Speaker 3: over the sidelines and Dirt Cutter has his hand drum saying, now,
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  Speaker 3: look that was a real football game.
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  Speaker 2: That was really fucking stupid, right.
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  Speaker 3: So even the coaches know, this is not real football.
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  Speaker 3: It's a simulation. It's like Beatlemania. It's not the Beatles,
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  Speaker 3: but an incredible simulation, you know. So just appreciate what
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  Speaker 3: it is and understand what it isn't and then you'll
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  Speaker 3: enjoy it much better.
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  Speaker 6: Tray.
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  Speaker 1: With all that being said, I have Ty Simpson as
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  Speaker 1: the MVP of the preseason so far.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations, that's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: I'm at the point in my life where people say
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  Speaker 3: things that like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, good for you.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I wish I cared that much.
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  Speaker 5: But just speaking of Ty Simpson, is there any quarterback
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  Speaker 5: that you've seen so far that you got, oh huh,
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  Speaker 5: he actually might be a whether it's Simpson club Nick,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Anthony Richardson was showing something and Carson Back,
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  Speaker 5: all these guys.
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  Speaker 4: They came in with questions and you go, you know
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  Speaker 4: what they looked all right?
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  Speaker 1: I was telling Sims, Chris Sims, I was telling him,
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  Speaker 1: I had that moment that wow, that looks it looks
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  Speaker 1: good to me.
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  Speaker 6: With Drew Aller from the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: He look he played great. Yeah, but again, it's a
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  Speaker 3: it's a base defense. There's not really game planning for
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  Speaker 3: what no one. For example, no one.
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  Speaker 2: Who the Steelers play in the preseason was the Packers, right,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't expecting follow ups. I'm sorry, I thank you,
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  Speaker 6: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: There's not a single person on the on that the
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  Speaker 3: posing defense after the Look, this is what we think
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  Speaker 3: Drew Aller's tendencies are, this is what he likes to do,
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  Speaker 3: this is what he struggled with.
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  Speaker 2: So let's force him to do that. Like none of
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  Speaker 2: that happens.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Now, you want the player to look good if
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  Speaker 3: you'd rapping, like, for example, Fernando Mendozo, right, everyone, Oh
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  Speaker 3: it looked great. I actually had somebody say I saw
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  Speaker 3: somebody on Twitter. I see shades of Burrow and Brady
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  Speaker 3: and Mahomes. I'm like, stop, just stop. You don't you don't, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you don't, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe one day, but not today.
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  Speaker 3: No. I mean, you want them to look good, and
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  Speaker 3: you certainly want them to look good as supposed to
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  Speaker 3: look terrible.
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it doesn't mean much.
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  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't mean much until we get into when
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  Speaker 3: the real whistles going and the bullets are flying and
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  Speaker 3: this guy they're game planning for you, right, they're game
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  Speaker 3: planning for you.
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  Speaker 2: That's when it's very different.
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  Speaker 3: So you want them to be able to execute the
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  Speaker 3: things that they've been taught. And there are certain things
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  Speaker 3: that you can find a preseason that are great. Any
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  Speaker 3: hustle play will get you on the team.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was was it barkiebus Mingo or whatever
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  Speaker 2: the Mingo is for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: They're the wide receiver Jonathan Mingo. Hustle play, never gave
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  Speaker 3: up on special teams, will be able to take tackle
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  Speaker 3: the guy thirty yards down the field, that'll get you around.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a Giants linebacker that chase somebody down
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  Speaker 3: fifty yards on a play that'll get you noticed. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's good stuff. So there are things that you can
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  Speaker 3: do in preseason that will help your cause. But don't
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  Speaker 3: overreact to it because it's so simplified and it's very
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  Speaker 3: very different than what's going to be happening in the
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  Speaker 3: regular season.
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  Speaker 6: Dray, what did you make of Anthony Richardson?
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  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, to me, he's a fascinating guy
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  Speaker 1: from the standpoint he was drafted on potential. I was
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  Speaker 1: surprised to see he was still with the cults, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you.
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  Speaker 6: But he did look good. He did look I know
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  Speaker 6: it's preseason, Trey.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get carried away, but we do
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  Speaker 1: have proof that this guy could do it during the
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  Speaker 1: regular season in Spurts.
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  Speaker 6: What do you make of Anthony Richardson?
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  Speaker 2: Look, the thing for Anthony going forward is that I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't take much out of the fact that he's a
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  Speaker 3: big athletic guy and he did some things that were
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  Speaker 3: functional to me.
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  Speaker 2: The two things with.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony richardson, are can you stay healthy? Because that's been
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  Speaker 3: his biggest issue, and can you progress? I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: go look at his numbers. You know, we're talking around
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  Speaker 3: the we're covering on fifty percent for his career, maybe
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  Speaker 3: under that fir his career as that we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you want to see him progress. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to take a lot of what I saw
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  Speaker 3: in that game from Anthony Richard and make it think
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  Speaker 3: make me think differently.
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  Speaker 2: About what I know about what he's been in the pros.
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  Speaker 3: It is kind of funny, right, Like he was billed
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  Speaker 3: as the most athletic, the strongest, the fastest athlete.
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  Speaker 2: We've ever seen at quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Dude can't stay on the field right and can't complete
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  Speaker 3: fifty percent of his throw. So like, when I start
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  Speaker 3: seeing him string games together, if he goes somewhere, if
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  Speaker 3: he plays or he has to play because of injuries
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  Speaker 3: in Indianapolis, and we're talking about fifty five sixty percent completion,
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  Speaker 3: then I'll have a different opinion.
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  Speaker 2: But until then, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Going to base much on what I saw in Week
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  Speaker 3: one of preseason, knowing what I've already seen in the
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  Speaker 3: regular season.
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  Speaker 1: If you're the Raiders, do you go with Mendoza or
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  Speaker 1: Cousins week one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I first of all, their offensive they've got to
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  Speaker 3: feel better about their offensive line if they're going to
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  Speaker 3: put Mendoza in there now. I believe they made the
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: trade for Tyler a trade or sign free agent, I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember what it was. The acquisition of Tyler Lindebaum
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  Speaker 3: the center from the Ravens was an indication that they
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  Speaker 3: want to start Mendoza sooner rather than later, because if
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  Speaker 3: you look at what happened to cam Ward last year
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  Speaker 3: at Tennessee behind a really crappy offensive line, I mean,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: he just got the crap beat out of him, and
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: you don't want to do that to the guy you
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: take number one overall, So the move bike Linderbaum I
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: think was one of the more underrated signings and underrated
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: pickups of the entire offseason because it basically said, Tyler
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Lindbaum is not only an unbelievable center, but the center
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: calls all the blocking protections right, so he's telling everybody
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: else where to go and what to do. That move
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: is an indication to me that sooner rather than later,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: they really want to have Fernando in there. Now, Kirk
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Cousins are going to go in there and say, hey,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: it's my job to lose. But if they lose their
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: first two or three games, I don't think Kirk Cousins
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: is going to be riding that out.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: They need to get Fernando in there.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: But they do need to make sure that that offensive
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: line gave up more sacks than anybody last year. They
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: were terrible against the run. They were really bad last
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: year that offensive line. They need that line to be better.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: If they're going to put Mendoz out there, what.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Do you do in Cleveland? Deshaun Watson or should or Sanders.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one, it really it is, because you
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: have a coach who wants to win, and he might
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: think that Deshaun Watson gives his team the best chance
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: to win, but no one wants that guy to start.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, I mean it's it's kind of like
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: you know that the GM is still there that made
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: that deal, and it will go down as the worst
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: deal in the history of the National Football League.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: It's why it's never been replicated. Right out there, Yeah, yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: well two was close.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, this was every dollar was guaranteed for a guy
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: who had issues, yes, and was not playing like the
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: guy that should have gotten that contract maybe a couple.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Of years ago. I really don't know what they're gonna do.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, outs they've they've lost their best
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: defensive player, but they've drafted really well in the past.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: You know, the defensive rookie they had last year was amazing.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I kind of think there probably are leaning towards Deshaun Watson,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: But at some point you have to find out what
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: you have with the other guy right in Shador, And
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: you can't have a rational opinion on shud Or Sanders
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: right if you love him, Oh, you're just sucking up
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: to the family. And you say he's got some issues,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: you're a hater. You know how about this played okay?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And we have no idea what he's gonna be yet.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: So to me, I would want to see what he has.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I would want to see what Shador can be from
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: an organizational standboy.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: But John, to your point, I just called you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: John, you did weird? What happened? To your point?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: To your point, Todd Mounkin doesn't give a shit.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: He's got a win or he's gonna get Stefanski like
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: every other coach has ever been in Cleveland.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you's got to win.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: What happened there with a John I mean I was
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: alarmed by it. I didn't even know how to respond.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Drew Aller took over my brain for the second. You're
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: a cutter, invaded my cerebellum. I don't know what was
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: The Jackson Dart stuff is injured thing. He doesn't like
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: going to the Blue Tent.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: He lives there.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: If you have mail, you can just send it to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the Blue Tent. Jackson Dorrit will be there to get it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I would tell him to stop running so much and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: stop throwing his body around like a crazy person. The
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: NFL lost a lawsuit because of concussions. They're going to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: they're gonna send guys to the Blue Tent, or instructed
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: teams to send their quarterbacks or any player to the
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Blue tent when they think there's a concussion.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: What do you think?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, first of all, that one wasn't on him.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, the back just blew. The assignment got waxed.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: But you know, I remember him saying last year, you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I look, man, I see my teammates running hard, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that for them.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: No, don't do that for them.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: As Herm Edwards once told me, know when the journey
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: is over, Like, the best thing Jackson Dart you can
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: do is not take those hits because the best ability
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: in football is availability, especially at the quarterback position. So
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: you need to do whatever you need to do to
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: not take those hits Like that one on Saturday was
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: not his fault.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: The back blue was assignment and he got blown up.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: But Dart takes too many risks with his body and
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: he's not a big enough guy. He's not Josh Allen.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have that stature. He's gonna get wrecked in
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: the NFL if he continues to do this. In fact,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the way he's playing, I might think that Cam Scatibow
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and Jackson Dart may check out at the same season
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the way things are going, Like, dude, you are not
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: helping yourself. You are not helping yourself, and you need
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to start helping yourself and understand by helping yourself, you're
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: actually helping your team.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He tells his offensive line and that spot, Hey, I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: don't need your help getting concussions.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: I'll get him on my own. Blog for me, it's crazy.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and fall down like one of Peyton Manning's best
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: skills and pop man, they just fell down that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Nope, not gonna do that. I'll live to fight another day.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, Mike Trey.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I can't remember a season, save for maybe the Patriots
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: back with Moss, where we've thought this team or the
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: field as much as we do with this Rams team,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: considering all they brought in with Miles Garrett, potential, Aaron
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Donald coming.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Back, Tyson.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: You think that, well, come on now, said they have a.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Backroup in case Stafford goes down. I mean, anyway, go ahead.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: How much do you buy into this Rams team that
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: it's their super Bowl to lose?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you say that with Randy Moss because
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: they didn't win the Super Bowl that year that was
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: they went to the Super Bowl forty two and lost
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to the Giants seventeen to fourteen. I don't think that
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: they're at that level, but I do think they're the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: prohibitive favorite. Now, look, that division is very tough, but
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the Niners again are wrecked by injuries, and I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: know how Seattle's going to be this year when they
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: lose their their Super Bowl MVP running back, a couple
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: of key pieces on defense, and they's their play caller.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak is now the head coach with the Raiders,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and I think that's being under appreciated how much that
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: loss may may send the team back a little bit.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But the Rams are should be the prohibitive favorite.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, it should be illegal to have Aaron Donald
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and Miles Garrett on the same defensive line. And I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: fully believe that he's going to come back. But just
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to tell you how much troubled the Rams were for
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks last year. If you go back the last
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: seven or eight games that the Seahawks played last year,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: through the last six or seven games of the regular
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: season then their Super Bowl run, nobody scored on them
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: except the Rams. Nobody scored on them. The problem was
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: the Rams couldn't stop them from scoring. And now they
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: go get Miles Garrett, They're likely to get Aaron Donald
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: out of retirement, they go get two corners quality corners.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: From the Chiefs mcdeffie Watson. That's a lot.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Just to give you an example of how problematic the
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Rams offense was for Seattle last season, Seattle only gave
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: up seventeen plays.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Of thirty or yards or more.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: The Rams had ten of those against the Seahawks man
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: So the Rams offense created problems for the Seahawks defense.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: The problem was the Rams defense did not create problems
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: for the Seahawks offense. Now they lose their play caller,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: their running back, and the defense of the Rams has
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: greatly improved. So that's the thing I think is not
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: being looked at enough is how well they matched up
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: against Seattle, except they couldn't stop them, and now I
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: think they have the ability to stop them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: What an off season for Snead?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, good God, I believe it's amazing. Last question,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: we'll get you ad here Indiana. We've been asking every
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: guest this Indiana University of Indiana football school or basketball school.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Well, now it's a football school, thank you. I mean
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it is. It's a football school. I mean, like, look,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: UCLA was a great basketball school. Yeah it's not right now.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I mean the history.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: The Yankees haven't won a World Series since two thousand
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and nine, and most of their World series.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Were before most of us were born.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So when we talk about twenty six or twenty seven
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: whatever is in reality it was a long time ago,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and the Yankees of today are just you know, maybe
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: maybe they'll win a playoff game or a playoff series, right,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: So absolutely at this point. Indiana historically was a basketball
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: school and it was one of the greatest dynasties in
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: college basketball history. Now it's absolutely a football school because
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: that's what they're doing better.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Yes, and they're doing it happily, by the way.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who's the best duke would love to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: be considered a football school.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I mean correct, all right, Daniel Jones has more who
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: plays in their There.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: You go, all right, drag get out of here. I'm glad.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we cleared the air on Baker Mayfield being
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: just truly terrible and gary joke, thank you for.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But very good at quarterback.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And they should have paid him because he's gonna play
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: great this year and it's gonna cost him even more.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: All right, da, I mean, disrespect me with one hundred
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: million dollars please anytime?
• 23:34
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• 23:37
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• 23:39
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• 23:39
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• 23:53
  Speaker 1: A couple more weeks of preseason and then it begins
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to try and looking forward to it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: We love talking football with you.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: Thank you for doing this.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You got a guy any time, alright man, mm hmm
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Mhm