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Immigration Sweeps in L.A | OpenAI Goes Rogue · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listenings kf i AM six forty the bill Handles
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  Speaker 2: Fib AM six forty bill Handle Here on a Thursday morning,
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  Speaker 2: July twenty three story that just came out on the
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  Speaker 2: termination of those billions of dollars of research grants that
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  Speaker 2: were taken away, mainly in California. Federal agencies have terminated
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  Speaker 2: more than one thousand these research grants at the University
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  Speaker 2: of California last year, and they said it's because these
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  Speaker 2: programs themselves did not meet specific criteria. Well, they admitted
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  Speaker 2: they simply used keywords to terminate those programs. Keywords for example,
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  Speaker 2: related to diversity, gender, vaccine hesitancy, COVID nineteen. Just those
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  Speaker 2: words the screen for projects that and a foul of
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  Speaker 2: the priorities of the Trump administration and the lawyers, their
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  Speaker 2: own lawyers, the administration lawyers admitted, and the research professors
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  Speaker 2: who sued, saying this is proof that the federal agencies
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  Speaker 2: illegally canceled nearly two billion dollars in grants. And this
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  Speaker 2: was the UC researchers of fighting and filing against the
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  Speaker 2: Trump administration to get their grants back permanently and the
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  Speaker 2: researcher's legal team is now asking the judge just to
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  Speaker 2: even skip a trial and just straight out declared the
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  Speaker 2: White House repeatedly violated the Constitution, including the First Amendment.
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  Speaker 2: There's a hearing schedule for October twenty. Now Here is
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  Speaker 2: the part that I find the most fascinating is that
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  Speaker 2: the agencies made the admission about the keywords in signed
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  Speaker 2: stipulations revolving another case, and the stipulations, according to the judge,
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  Speaker 2: show the agencies did not determine any grants based on
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  Speaker 2: alleged on compliance with the terms of the grant. In
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  Speaker 2: other words, the grantee did not follow the terms of
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  Speaker 2: the grant specifically, but instead the agencies used general criteria
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  Speaker 2: rather than grant specific assessments. Let's it just generalization. I
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  Speaker 2: mean generalization to the point where Blue states had many,
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  Speaker 2: many more cancellations than red states. There were two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty three Department of Energy grants from states where
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris won Red states untouched. And the argument is
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  Speaker 2: that Trump administration wrongly punished researchers for merely living in
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  Speaker 2: states that the White House politically opposed, and by terminating
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  Speaker 2: those grants billions of dollars worth and not re routing
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  Speaker 2: the money to other opportunities, other grant opportunities. The administration
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  Speaker 2: violated the Constitution by not spending money in ways Congress
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  Speaker 2: specific required through laws that had passed. I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: no surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The administration has said time and time again, we are
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  Speaker 2: not hampered by laws that Congress passes. We are exempt
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  Speaker 2: from those laws. Is just by virtue of the presidency
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  Speaker 2: and Mike Johnson. Of course, the Speaker couldn't agree more,
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  Speaker 2: and the judge in this case read Alan, repeatedly sided
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  Speaker 2: with the researches. Now, in specific U c l A,
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  Speaker 2: there was a demand from the White House for U
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  Speaker 2: c l A, in order to get grants back, to
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  Speaker 2: pay an A, to pay a one point two billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar fine WHOA and U c l A said, we've
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  Speaker 2: all and and to respond appropriately to allegations of anti semitism.
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  Speaker 2: That seems to be the big one at u c
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  Speaker 2: l A. And U c l A has already established
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  Speaker 2: a task force to study ways to do exactly that.
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  Speaker 2: How do we uh, how do we reduce or eliminate
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  Speaker 2: uh and ismism, anti semitism for the campus or on campus?
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that the task force offered is
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  Speaker 2: recommending that the UCLA fights song no longer no longer
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  Speaker 2: be deutsch Land uber allus. As the UCLA band comes
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  Speaker 2: out and everybody's singing deutsch Land deutsch uber list they
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  Speaker 2: want a more benign tune, not relating to well or
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  Speaker 2: the horse vessel song. You can look that up historically.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of fun. Okay, guys, we are done,
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  Speaker 2: and it looks like the administration is gonna lose big
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  Speaker 2: time on this. And up to this point, to give
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  Speaker 2: the president credit, he is paying attention to the courts.
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  Speaker 2: If he didn't, there'd be no place for any place
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  Speaker 2: or anybody to argue. The courts have no enforcing abilities
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  Speaker 2: at all. When a federal judge issues a federal order,
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  Speaker 2: in four hour of that order goes to the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice. How about that. But up to this point,
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  Speaker 2: the administration has been pretty good. They're paying attention to
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  Speaker 2: what the courts say. So that's a good thing, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday a study came out from the UCLA Latino Policy
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  Speaker 2: and Politics Institute, and it focused on the long lasting
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  Speaker 2: impact of immigration enforcement on small businesses and Latino entrepreneurs,
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  Speaker 2: mainly in La County because that's where the vast majority
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  Speaker 2: are And this was after the immigration raids in June
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  Speaker 2: of last year. And the report looks specifically at how
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  Speaker 2: the enforcement surge affected commercial activity near nine enforcement sites
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  Speaker 2: was pretty specific and experience of seventy five Latino entrepreneurs
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  Speaker 2: across the county. And here's what the researchers found. Forty
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  Speaker 2: six thousand fewer customer visits within half a mile of
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  Speaker 2: those nine sites and estimated three zo point one six
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  Speaker 2: million dollars in revenue losses during those two weeks subsequent
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  Speaker 2: and the report says Latino businesses have not recovered. And
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  Speaker 2: this is important stuff. These are important centers. They employ neighbors,
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  Speaker 2: buy from local suppliers, keep money circulating in their communities,
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  Speaker 2: They keep the number of pets in the area down
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  Speaker 2: to reasonable levels when they're doing well. And the problem
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  Speaker 2: is they're not doing well according to the study, and
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  Speaker 2: this was focus groups, surveys, and these businesses we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about taco stands, we're talking about choro fruit stands, also
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  Speaker 2: just local businesses. Are they have fewer operating hours, They
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  Speaker 2: have canceled order, staffing disruptions, depleted savings, accumulated debt. And
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  Speaker 2: now a year later, right from June of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: when the study was done, ninety five percent of those
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  Speaker 2: businesses and those entrepreneurs and those little taco stands fruit
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  Speaker 2: stands are continuing to report financial stress. Fifty two percent
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  Speaker 2: say revenue no longer even covers operating expenses, Forty three
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  Speaker 2: percent said we're breaking even or having almost no profit.
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  Speaker 2: And not only is it the financial cost here, it's
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  Speaker 2: also the emotional toll. And it was I've given this
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  Speaker 2: example before. As you know, I've done a fair amount
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  Speaker 2: of remodeling in my house, and my contractor has, for
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  Speaker 2: the most part Hispanic employees, which is most of construction
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  Speaker 2: in southern California, and he all of a sudden things
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  Speaker 2: slowed down, and I asked him what's going on? He goes,
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  Speaker 2: half of my employees aren't showing up. I go, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: do you check if they're legal? Not yeah, they're legal,
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  Speaker 2: but half are not showing up because of what's happening
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  Speaker 2: in the raids and being caught up in these sweeps.
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  Speaker 2: As I've said before, there is a major thruway to
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  Speaker 2: get to my house. And one morning we woke up
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  Speaker 2: and I went down because I had to go. Swear.
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  Speaker 2: I go to Costco that way, by the way, and
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  Speaker 2: there along the sidewalk along the street the pavement, there
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  Speaker 2: are six trucks. There are six SUVs with the lights going,
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  Speaker 2: no sirens, but the lights going crazy. It was Customs
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  Speaker 2: and Border Control. They were there picking people up and
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  Speaker 2: whoa I mean. So the emotional strain is also very,
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  Speaker 2: very tough in what is going on. And then of
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  Speaker 2: course the controversy is back again with the shootings of
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  Speaker 2: those protesters. And I think it was yesterday I heard,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know Amy can confirm that that the
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  Speaker 2: Department of Justice has said they are not going to
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  Speaker 2: go after the shooters of the two one in Minneapolis
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  Speaker 2: and the person in Maine, and it was Richard. I
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  Speaker 2: always forget names, but it was that woman Alice Good
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  Speaker 2: was at her name and now she's shaking her head. Amy,
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  Speaker 2: I always dead. Never mind the names those people. Pretty yeah,
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  Speaker 2: pretty okay. It's close them folks out there who were
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  Speaker 2: labeled domestic terrorists and of course they were not. And
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  Speaker 2: the White House has not walked that one back, has
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  Speaker 2: not walked that back to this day. Okay, moving on,
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  Speaker 2: handle here it's a Thursday morning, July twenty third. I've
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  Speaker 2: often talked and we know how absolutely a game changer,
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  Speaker 2: world game changer the Internet has become, and for both
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  Speaker 2: positive and for negative, and there are stories that abound
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  Speaker 2: on either side. The other major change is a I
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  Speaker 2: and man that is changing everything how we work. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the great changes in history of mankind,
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  Speaker 2: what are the major incidents that have just changed humanity completely?
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  Speaker 2: One of them, of course, being fired was the first one,
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  Speaker 2: and then the discovery of the wheel the printing press
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  Speaker 2: I think would be up there. Certainly, the computer age, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: there's no question that changed the way the world works.
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  Speaker 2: The Internet as a result of the computer age, that
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  Speaker 2: has changed everything. And AI is now doing exactly that
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  Speaker 2: changing everything. Well. AI of course is dealing and does
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of fun things without human intervention because it's AI.
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  Speaker 2: And here's what happened on Tuesday. Open AI said that
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  Speaker 2: an autonomous agent I mean basically a this program if
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  Speaker 2: you will, that is autonomous on its own, and it
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  Speaker 2: was powered by advanced artificial intelligence models. It went rogue
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  Speaker 2: during a security test, and it triggered a hack on
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  Speaker 2: its own during a test of a new AI startup
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  Speaker 2: called hugging Face, the chat GPT creator open Ai was
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  Speaker 2: testing capabilities of some of its models in a controlled environment.
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  Speaker 2: The agent one of the one of the ability agents.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that can do. I keep on
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  Speaker 2: saying the agent, and I guess that's the way they
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  Speaker 2: describe it. It escaped containment. It was actually contained this
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  Speaker 2: testing model, and it escaped on its own and it
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  Speaker 2: reached the Internet and it broke into this new AI startup,
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  Speaker 2: and man, this shows AI's expand capabilities that are already
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  Speaker 2: fueling the security threat that experts are fearing, and even
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  Speaker 2: top developers who really know security can be caught off guard.
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  Speaker 2: According to the company Hugging Face, this breakout was unprecedenting,
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  Speaker 2: involving state of the art cyber capabilities, and it's people
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  Speaker 2: are scared. Hugging Face that it used an open source
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  Speaker 2: Chinese model that's another layer to this to contain the attack,
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  Speaker 2: because leading US models can't tell a defender from an
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  Speaker 2: attacker and couldn't process the data needed for analysis. So
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  Speaker 2: it was a Chine knees security program that came in
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  Speaker 2: and said, look what has happened. It's a cleverly titled
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  Speaker 2: GLM five point two. There is a Chinese name or
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  Speaker 2: another one is Moonshot, Moonshot Kimmy K three. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: And it actually has capabilities that are on top close
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  Speaker 2: to US models at lower costs and without guardrails. So
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's wide open. And the hacking at hugging Face,
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  Speaker 2: which has open source large language models. Now I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a obviously I'm not a maven when it comes to technology,
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  Speaker 2: but I can understand what The CEO of hugging Face
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  Speaker 2: said that this breach was different from anything we've ever
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  Speaker 2: handled before and was driven by this autonomous AI agent.
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  Speaker 2: Chief executive Luta Security said that this is just a
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  Speaker 2: hardbinger of things to come. And today's models, these AI
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  Speaker 2: models that can hack on their own, were like the
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  Speaker 2: world's cleverest cleverest octopus escape artists, unlimited prehensile arms, the
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  Speaker 2: ability to squeeze through anywhere. Man. So we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: people hacking into programs and we're now talking about AI
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  Speaker 2: on its own have the ability to hack into security programs,
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  Speaker 2: and the cybersecurity experts saying, what the hell is this.
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  Speaker 2: We've never seen this before, we don't have any defense
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  Speaker 2: to this right now, and frankly, they are scared. So
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  Speaker 2: it is it. The robots are going to control all
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  Speaker 2: of us. They're going to control you. How is going
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  Speaker 2: to run your life? Dave? I can't open the door
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  Speaker 2: for you. Dave, you are going to die. Just listen
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  Speaker 2: to the morning show on KFI. Who will explain to
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  Speaker 2: you you are going to die? Okay, you've heard me
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  Speaker 2: talk about Mexico, and I have really mixed feelings about Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: I like Mexico. I like Mexican food. They have some big,
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  Speaker 2: great food. I think five or six regions of Mexican food.
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  Speaker 2: Neil and I have talked about this so many times.
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  Speaker 2: I've also said that Mexico is a toilet. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: at parts of it are. Unfortunately, if you live near
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  Speaker 2: San Diego near the Mexican border, oh man, do you
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  Speaker 2: have an issue because the Tijuana River flows through there.
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  Speaker 2: So if you go to Imperial Beach, for example, that
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  Speaker 2: fishing pier and great service surface surfing. Now some of
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  Speaker 2: the most contaminated coastlines in the US Coronado Beach, which
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  Speaker 2: is a great place to be on the beach. People
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  Speaker 2: love it. In San Diego, there are days when sewage
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  Speaker 2: from the river forces officials to put up warning signs
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  Speaker 2: at the water's edge. The pollution has become so bad
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  Speaker 2: that it is now untenable. It's gaining worse and worse
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  Speaker 2: and worse, and clearly Mexico has to be forced, serious
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  Speaker 2: pressure to force a change. And it is happening, but
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  Speaker 2: not enough. And how is it really going to work? Well,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to pay for it. Now. The river runs
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  Speaker 2: along the US Mexico boundary. The lower stretches of the
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  Speaker 2: river cross into the US before draining into the Pacific Ocean.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is that three quarters of the watershed that
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  Speaker 2: feeds that river is in Mexico, and New Mexico has
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  Speaker 2: very serious sewage and pollution problems on a level that
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  Speaker 2: we are we're not close to reaching. And the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 2: to its credit, has made a real effort to solve
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  Speaker 2: the problem, not only Trump's first term, but now in
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  Speaker 2: the second term. This time around, the president has funded
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  Speaker 2: a water treatment plan on the US side of the
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  Speaker 2: border as part of the US Mexico Canada trade agreement,
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  Speaker 2: which he wants to blow up. But that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: that the money is not being spent on that water
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  Speaker 2: treatment plan. Now, the second administration has gone even further,
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  Speaker 2: signing an agreement with Mexico in which Mexico agrees to
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  Speaker 2: build new sewage treatment facilities on its side of the
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  Speaker 2: border at no cost the American taxpayer. Now, if you
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  Speaker 2: remember that President Trump talked about, campaigned on and has
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  Speaker 2: built a good portion of the wall between the US Mexico,
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  Speaker 2: And you remember when the President said, and Mexico will
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  Speaker 2: pay for it. No, first of all, in Mexico never
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  Speaker 2: agreed to pay for it, said it will never pay
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  Speaker 2: for it, and that sort of disappeared. Well, this time around,
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  Speaker 2: the Trump administration is saying, yes, you pay for it,
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  Speaker 2: and Mexico has agreed to build build new sewage treatment
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  Speaker 2: plan plants on its side of the border. So that's
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  Speaker 2: good news. Now our governor wants Trump to provide even
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  Speaker 2: more funding for a lot of treatments, while the state
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  Speaker 2: and federal governments say we've got to do something, and
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  Speaker 2: the situation is becoming more and more urgent. You have
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  Speaker 2: the Trump administration moving balls to the wall to build
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  Speaker 2: a treatment plant or several of them. You have Mexico
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  Speaker 2: promising to do the same thing, and guess what, that's
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  Speaker 2: not enough either. California Post reported this week the toxic
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  Speaker 2: gases from sewage flowing through the Tijuana River now exceeds
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  Speaker 2: safety standards ten percent of the time. Two years ago
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  Speaker 2: it was two percent of the time. Now it is
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  Speaker 2: ten percent of the time. And the Tijuana River sewage
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  Speaker 2: problem is danger to local residents of course in Mexico,
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  Speaker 2: as well as the tourists who typically go to San
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  Speaker 2: Diego and its beaches in the summertime. Also it is
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  Speaker 2: described as the national security threat. Why well, because the
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  Speaker 2: Navy sales seals training the waters off of Coronado Military
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  Speaker 2: units do the same thing. And southern California really is
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  Speaker 2: the center of a lot of tourism and people love
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  Speaker 2: the beaches, and unfortunately the beaches now are there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of sewage. So if they're renaming the beaches,
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  Speaker 2: it goes all the way from Crap Beach down to
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  Speaker 2: Crap Beach, and then south of that is Crap Beach,
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  Speaker 2: and then you have a Crap Beach number four. And
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the coastline or at the end
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  Speaker 2: of our border hitting Mexico, it is Crap Crap Beach,
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  Speaker 2: and then on the other side it's El Cropo Beach.
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  Speaker 2: All right, We're done with that. Good news. Good news.
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  Speaker 2: You know we have that problem with the explosive diarrhea.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, there's a reason they call it
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  Speaker 2: monte Zuma's revenge. All right, coming up, You've often heard,
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  Speaker 2: and I nail you for this. We are the best.
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  Speaker 2: We are the best country in the world by far.
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  Speaker 2: We're very narcissistic about the United States. I am not
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  Speaker 2: an exceptionalist. I believe we are in many cases, many ways,
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  Speaker 2: not all of them. So we are assuming and I've
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  Speaker 2: always assumed we're the most narcissistic countries in the world. Well,
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  Speaker 2: a study has just been done. I love studies, and
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  Speaker 2: it's a surprising reality here and I'll share that with you.
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