Latest / Marriage Life and More and Bible Study / Work, Calling, and Shared Purpose (Marriage as a Mission) Pt 1 - 343
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- 0:06Daniel Moore: Have you ever noticed how easy it is to act spiritual on Sunday and then completely lose your sanctification by Monday morning traffic?
- 0:14Daniel Moore: I mean, one minute you're singing I surrender all in church, and the next minute you're gripping the steering wheel whispering, Lord, help me not to lay hands on this person in front of me.
- 0:23Daniel Moore: Work has a funny way of exposing what's really inside of us.
- 0:27Daniel Moore: Between difficult coworkers, endless emails, awkward staff meetings that should have lasted five minutes instead of 50, and try to figure out why the office printer only jams when you're already running late, it's easy to start viewing work as nothing more than survival.
- 0:41Daniel Moore: But what if we've been looking at it all wrong?
- 0:43Daniel Moore: What if your workplace is actually one of the greatest mission fields God has placed you in?
- 0:48Daniel Moore: The truth is God never intended for our faith to stay inside church walls while the rest of our lives operate separately.
- 0:55Daniel Moore: Scripture shows us over and over that God uses ordinary people in ordinary jobs to accomplish extraordinary kingdom purposes.
- 1:02Daniel Moore: Whether you're managing a business, teaching students, changing diapers, answering phones, fixing cars, or simply trying to survive another Zoom meeting without muting the wrong microphone, your work matters to God.
- 1:14Daniel Moore: In this week's episode, we're talking about what it really means to integrate faith and work, how our everyday faithfulness impacts not only our workplace but also our marriage, and why some of the holiest moments in life don't happen behind a pulpit.
- 1:27Daniel Moore: They happen in the middle of ordinary routines when people choose to quietly honor God where they are.
- 1:32Daniel Moore: Your job may sign your paycheck, but your calling is what gives your work eternal purpose.
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- 2:20Daniel Moore: Well, over the last couple of weeks, as we continued our series on marriage as a mission, we talked about hospitality.
- 2:28Daniel Moore: We talked about using our homes as a mission field, life groups, just all kinds of things about how our marriage integrates into our homes and how God gives us those blessings so that we can in turn be a blessing to other people.
- 2:42Daniel Moore: Well, this week we're going to go off in a total different direction.
- 2:46Daniel Moore: And it's a direction that a lot of people uh probably just don't look forward to.
- 2:51Daniel Moore: That that Monday morning when you got to get up and go to work.
- 2:55Daniel Moore: And we feel like that the work's just a grind.
- 2:58Daniel Moore: And we know a lot of people are in jobs they don't enjoy.
- 3:01Daniel Moore: Uh they don't look forward to Mondays.
- 3:03Daniel Moore: They maybe hate the places that they work.
- 3:06Daniel Moore: But the reality of it is the places that we work is also, whether if we like to look at it this way or not, our mission field.
- 3:13Daniel Moore: Yep.
- 3:14Daniel Moore: And so we're going to spend the at least the next couple of weeks here as we talk about work, calling, and shared purpose.
- 3:51Michelle Moore: You're not alone.
- 3:52Michelle Moore: Most of us have had seasons where we at work felt less like a calling and more like a never-ending cycle of meetings that could have been emails and emails that honestly should have just stayed drafts forever.
- 4:06Michelle Moore: And let's admit it, sometimes the workplace can test your sanctification faster than a church business meeting.
- 4:15Michelle Moore: There's the coworkers who replies all to everything, the boss with the oddly specific coffee order, the printer that jams only when you're already late, and the customer who just has that quick question right as you're heading out the door.
- 4:32Michelle Moore: Yet, somewhere in the middle of all the chaos, God is present.
- 4:37Michelle Moore: What if we misunderstood work altogether?
- 4:40Michelle Moore: What if your job, even the one that feels ordinary, exhausting, or overlooked, is actually part of your divine calling.
- 4:51Michelle Moore: That changes everything.
- 4:53Michelle Moore: So many people separate faith from work as if ministry only happens behind a pulpit on a mission trip, or during worship night when the fog machine is working overtime and someone's holding a sustained keyboard cord in the background.
- 5:11Michelle Moore: But the scripture paints a completely different picture.
- 5:14Michelle Moore: God has always moved through ordinary people doing ordinary work with extraordinary faithfulness.
- 5:20Michelle Moore: Think about it.
- 5:22Michelle Moore: Before David was a king, he was faithfully tending sheep.
- 5:26Michelle Moore: Before Paul preached to crowds, he made tents.
- 5:30Michelle Moore: Noah built a boat long before anybody believed rain was even coming.
- 5:36Michelle Moore: Even Jesus spent most of his earthly life working as a carpenter before beginning his public ministry.
- 5:44Michelle Moore: Colossians 323 reminds us, whatever you do, work hardly as for the Lord and not for men.
- 5:53Michelle Moore: Notice it doesn't say only if your job is spiritual.
- 5:57Michelle Moore: It says whatever you do.
- 6:00Michelle Moore: That means your spreadsheets matter, your teaching matters, your parenting matters, your construction work matters, your caregiving matters, and your customer service matters.
- 6:15Michelle Moore: And yes, even surviving back-to-back Zoom meetings with a gracious attitude might qualify as a modern miracle.
- 6:26Daniel Moore: So as we get started this week, I know that this is something, as we kind of mentioned here at the beginning, that we really just don't think about work being a place we need to be spiritual sometimes.
- 6:38Daniel Moore: And I know also you have the situations where some people actually can get in trouble for talking, you know, about Jesus in their workplace.
- 6:47Daniel Moore: Um you can definitely break the rules and lose your job.
- 6:51Daniel Moore: Uh there's a lot of issues that you have to be careful with that as well.
- 6:55Daniel Moore: But it doesn't mean that we still don't aren't living our testimony.
- 7:00Michelle Moore: Right, right.
- 7:01Daniel Moore: You know, and that other people are seeing that.
- 7:03Daniel Moore: Um, you know, God doesn't only call people to platforms, he calls people to faithfulness.
- 7:08Daniel Moore: That's the big thing that he expects from us.
- 7:11Daniel Moore: You know, work was never meant to be merely a paycheck generator, it was designed to be partnership with God.
- 7:17Daniel Moore: If you look at this from the very beginning in Genesis, before sin ever entered the world, Adam was given meaningful work in the garden.
- 7:24Daniel Moore: Work itself was not the curse, the frustration surrounding it was.
- 7:29Daniel Moore: And, you know, there's a difference between those two.
- 7:32Daniel Moore: Sometimes we think purpose only arrives through dramatic moments, you know, like burning bushes or audible voices from heaven, giant revelations.
- 7:40Daniel Moore: But more often than not, purpose quietly shows up disguised as consistency.
- 7:44Daniel Moore: You know, it looks like showing kindness to a difficult coworker, choosing integrity when nobody's watching, refusing to gossip in the break room, serving people with excellence, even when you feel unnoticed, listening to someone who's silently carrying heavy burdens.
- 7:59Daniel Moore: You know, those moments may never trend online, but heaven notices every single one of those.
- 8:05Daniel Moore: You know, work is one of the places that we're going to spend a big portion of our lives.
- 8:12Daniel Moore: And if you really think about it, you know, most people have a five-day work week at least.
- 8:18Daniel Moore: Uh, some people have, you know, a little bit less than that, but they may work more hours within a day.
- 8:23Daniel Moore: And some people work six days, some work seven days, some work a month, and then they get off for a couple.
- 8:28Daniel Moore: There's so many different schedules out there.
- 8:30Daniel Moore: But whenever we think about all of that, no matter what your scenario is, the reality of it is you spend a big portion of your life with your coworkers.
- 8:41Michelle Moore: I know that a lot of times when I was working, we always used to tease each other about, you know, they're my work family because I spend more time with them than I do my own family.
- 8:53Daniel Moore: Yep.
- 8:53Michelle Moore: And, you know, you always pray for a great group of people that you can be with daily.
- 8:58Michelle Moore: And I'm so thankful.
- 9:00Michelle Moore: I've had some really good, great co-workers.
- 9:03Daniel Moore: And, you know, myself, I used to be on the fire department and we worked 24 hours off 48.
- 9:09Daniel Moore: So if you do the math on that, if I stay there from the time I started till I retire, I literally am spending a third of my life at my job.
- 9:19Daniel Moore: And so that means, you know, all them guys that I worked with, those 24-hour shifts, the same situation, they became like my family because they probably in a lot of ways knew as much as the spouses do about you because there's so much sharing, there's so much time there just to sit around and talk and you know, be best friends with each other and lean on each other's shoulder and depend you do depend on each other as a firefighter.
- 9:45Daniel Moore: Uh they have your life in your their hands sometimes.
- 9:48Daniel Moore: And so it's a whole different scenario.
- 9:50Daniel Moore: Um, there was kind of a bad side to that to that also, because there is a high divorce rate uh being a firefighter just because they are away from their family so much, but it it doesn't negate the fact that no matter whether if it's a time a job that you're at there at a lot of time or if you don't have a whole lot of time spent there, the process is still the same.
- 10:12Michelle Moore: Right.
- 10:13Daniel Moore: It is a ministry field, it's a place that we can show Jesus.
- 10:16Daniel Moore: And the next point there, your workplace may not always feel holy, but God still does his work there.
- 10:24Daniel Moore: And that is so true.
- 10:26Daniel Moore: Uh, the fact that, you know, our job may not, it we may just be turning wrenches and getting greasy all day, you know.
- 10:33Daniel Moore: Uh might be at the chicken farms cleaning the manure out.
- 10:36Daniel Moore: There may be some really dirty jobs that people are involved in, and you think, well, how in the world can this be a a gift from God?
- 10:45Daniel Moore: You know, yeah.
- 10:46Daniel Moore: It's probably one of those jobs you're trying to get out of, probably.
- 10:49Michelle Moore: Yeah.
- 10:50Daniel Moore: But honestly, it doesn't matter where you are, God can use any of that for his glory.
- 10:56Daniel Moore: You're right.
- 10:57Daniel Moore: And if you want to, go ahead and there's a scripture there, share that scripture with us and the notes there.
- 11:02Michelle Moore: Ephesians 2 10 says, We are created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand.
- 11:09Michelle Moore: That means your life is not random, and neither is the place where you spend most of your waking hours.
- 11:16Michelle Moore: Sometimes married couples especially struggle here because work can either unite a marriage or slowly drain it.
- 11:23Michelle Moore: One spouse may feel overwhelmed while the other feels underappreciated.
- 11:28Michelle Moore: One may come home wanting to talk while the other just wants ten minutes of silence and a snack.
- 11:34Michelle Moore: And somehow every married couple eventually has a classic interaction.
- 11:40Michelle Moore: Like, for example, how was your day?
- 11:42Michelle Moore: Fine?
- 11:44Michelle Moore: Just fine?
- 11:45Michelle Moore: Yes?
- 11:46Michelle Moore: You seem upset, I'm not upset.
- 11:49Michelle Moore: Okay, now I know you're upset.
- 11:52Michelle Moore: Marriage has a funny way of exposing how differently two people process stress and responsibility.
- 11:59Michelle Moore: But one of the healthiest things couples can do is begin seeing each other's work through the lens of the purpose instead of the pressure.
- 12:07Michelle Moore: Husbands need encouragement and wives need appreciation, but both need grace.
- 12:13Michelle Moore: And sometimes the greatest ministry in marriage is simply understanding that your spouse may be carrying burdens you cannot immediately see.
- 12:22Michelle Moore: That's the thing.
- 12:29Daniel Moore: I know you being an auditor at a bank, there's moments that you have some easy days and it's not too bad, but then you have your crunch times.
- 12:38Daniel Moore: And those are the times you have a lot of higher-up people putting high expectations on you.
- 12:44Daniel Moore: They're wanting some good looking reports coming across their desk, and they want you got to make sure all those numbers are right and all that stuff's taking place.
- 12:53Daniel Moore: And how much pressure does that put on you?
- 12:55Michelle Moore: At times a lot.
- 12:56Daniel Moore: I mean, I I can tell when you come home that you'll have a lot of migraines.
- 13:02Daniel Moore: I mean, there's just a lot of stuff that happens.
- 13:04Daniel Moore: And honestly, as spouses, we need to know how to navigate that because sometimes if our other if our spouses had a pretty rough day at work, but ours was kind of just slid right on by and it was pretty easy.
- 13:17Daniel Moore: Uh, you know, we get home, we may have we may be in one mood, but our spouse is in another mood, and that could create a situation we could cross each other pretty quick and you know have some issues.
- 13:27Michelle Moore: And I know sometimes like if your spouse truly like knows how you are, like I put a lot of pressure upon myself to make sure that, you know, if I'm doing my job, I'm doing it great.
- 13:37Michelle Moore: And, you know, I look at that and I can overlook, I can almost stress myself.
- 13:42Michelle Moore: Well, I do stress myself out, just making sure that my job is done when I know I did my job.
- 13:47Michelle Moore: Right.
- 13:48Michelle Moore: But I want to make sure.
- 13:49Michelle Moore: But you know how I am.
- 13:51Michelle Moore: So it's like, you know that I put so much pressure and stress on myself, not just from the little stress I was handed to, but you're you're very encouraging, like you got this, you know, you don't you're you're doing great.
- 14:06Michelle Moore: And I'm very thankful for that because you know my job requires a lot at that time, but I also require a lot from myself.
- 14:14Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 14:14Daniel Moore: And just imagine if you're in that situation, all that stress is there, the headaches, trying to meet those time frames, those deadlines.
- 14:23Daniel Moore: It's real easy to forget that God put me in this.
- 14:27Daniel Moore: You know?
- 14:28Michelle Moore: It is.
- 14:28Daniel Moore: It's very difficult to really think about it that way.
- 14:31Daniel Moore: You're thinking about if I can only make it through the end of this week, I'm gonna be lucky.
- 14:36Michelle Moore: We're just the end of the day.
- 14:38Daniel Moore: End of the day, if I can just survive.
- 14:39Daniel Moore: And you know, a lot of times we try to do all of that on our own and we don't even ask God to come and help us in those stressful moments, you know.
- 14:46Michelle Moore: That's a very good point.
- 14:47Daniel Moore: Um, so it's just this is a good reminder, I think, as we go through this episode, just to reflect a little bit on our jobs and you know, whether if we hate our job or not, it is a blessing from God.
- 15:00Daniel Moore: Yeah, it pays the bills, it helps us sustain our families and the things that we own.
- 15:06Daniel Moore: Uh, there's a lot of reward for the work, but everybody gets to that reward a little differently, you know.
- 15:13Daniel Moore: Uh, we got to remember that a paycheck may provide for the home, but purpose brings life to it.
- 15:20Daniel Moore: It's important to remember the success in God's kingdom looks very different from success in the world.
- 15:25Daniel Moore: Culture tells us success is visibility, status, promotions, followers, and climbing higher.
- 15:30Daniel Moore: But Jesus modeled something completely different.
- 15:33Daniel Moore: He modeled servanthood.
- 15:35Daniel Moore: In Mark 10, 45, Jesus said he came not to be served, but to serve.
- 15:40Daniel Moore: You know, imagine how differently we would approach our jobs if we viewed work less as an obligation and more as an offering back to God.
- 15:49Daniel Moore: What if today's assignment was heaven sent?
- 15:51Daniel Moore: What if excellence became worship?
- 15:54Daniel Moore: What if patience with people became ministry?
- 15:57Daniel Moore: And what if your workplace became a mission filled disguised as a cubicle?
- 16:01Daniel Moore: Suddenly, what you consider to be ordinary and mundane, all of a sudden it becomes sacred.
- 16:07Daniel Moore: And let's not forget, God absolutely has a sense of humor.
- 16:10Daniel Moore: You cannot convince me otherwise after looking at a like a duck-billed platypus or trying to understand why couples can never agree on thermostat settings.
- 16:19Daniel Moore: One spouse is sleeping under three blankets while the other has the ceiling fan on in December, claiming it's not even cold in here.
- 16:26Michelle Moore: That is so you and I.
- 16:28Michelle Moore: Which one would I be?
- 16:30Daniel Moore: Uh the three blankets.
- 16:31Daniel Moore: Under the blankets.
- 16:33Michelle Moore: Except for when I have the hot flash.
- 16:35Daniel Moore: So we know that God has some humor.
- 16:37Daniel Moore: Yes.
- 16:38Daniel Moore: And, you know, life and work, they require a little bit of humor sometimes, also.
- 16:42Daniel Moore: You know, that embarrassing typo and the company-wide email, that's humility training.
- 16:47Daniel Moore: That awkward conversation with your boss, that's character development.
- 16:51Daniel Moore: That season where nothing seems glamorous or exciting, that's spiritual endurance training.
- 16:57Daniel Moore: Romans 8 28 reminds us that God works all things together for good to those who love him and are called according to his purpose, not some things.
- 17:04Daniel Moore: That scripture says all things, even the frustrating things, the hidden things, and even the ordinary things.
- 17:11Daniel Moore: If we keep all of that in perspective and we try to focus on the good side of the bad things that we consider our jobs to be, and understand that regardless of what we go through, God has us in that place during that season for a reason and he will sustain us.
- 17:30Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 17:30Daniel Moore: If that is the case.
- 17:31Daniel Moore: If we truly believe that the blessings we have from God, you know, the paychecks, the financial stability, uh, the ability to just, you know, give back to the church and to support ministry, that all comes from having a job.
- 17:44Daniel Moore: And God does put us in those places sometimes for a reason if we just look for it and try to figure out what that is.
- 17:51Daniel Moore: And the next point is very important about this.
- 17:54Daniel Moore: Go ahead and share it with us.
- 17:56Michelle Moore: Purpose is rarely found in the spectacular.
- 17:59Michelle Moore: It's usually discovered in daily faithfulness.
- 18:02Michelle Moore: This is why we must stop viewing work as secular while only labeling church activity as sacred.
- 18:11Michelle Moore: God is not confined to sanctuaries.
- 18:14Michelle Moore: He moves through classrooms, offices, kitchens, job sites, hospitals, farms, warehouse, and living rooms full of toys that somehow multiply overnight.
- 18:27Michelle Moore: Especially for married couples, reclaiming a biblical view of work changes the atmosphere of the home.
- 18:35Michelle Moore: Instead of competing over who's more tired, you begin championing one another's calling instead of resenting responsibility.
- 18:44Michelle Moore: You begin recognizing divine assignment.
- 18:47Michelle Moore: And for stay-at-home parents who sometimes feel unseen or overlooked, never underestimate the internal impact of what you do.
- 18:58Michelle Moore: Shaping hearts, building a home, creating stability, praying over children, loving faithfully in hidden places, that matters deeply to God.
- 19:10Michelle Moore: Some of the most kingdom impacting work on earth never receives applauses.
- 19:16Michelle Moore: Heaven measures significance differently than the world does.
- 19:22Michelle Moore: So whether you're behind a desk, under the hood of a car, teaching students, leading meetings, answering phones, managing a business, building homes, serving customers, or wrangling toddlers who somehow have endless energy before 7 a.m.
- 19:41Michelle Moore: Remember this.
- 19:42Michelle Moore: You're not just showing up for a paycheck.
- 19:45Michelle Moore: You are stepping into a purpose.
- 19:48Michelle Moore: You are partnering with God.
- 19:50Michelle Moore: You are representing Christ through everyday faithfulness.
- 19:55Michelle Moore: And there is absolutely nothing ordinary about that.
- 19:59Michelle Moore: When you surrender your work to God, even the ordinary becomes eternal.
- 20:07Daniel Moore: And I kind of like that the a lot sometimes our jobs seem boring and they seem ordinary.
- 20:13Daniel Moore: We don't really feel like, especially factory work probably would be a good example of that.
- 20:18Daniel Moore: Uh you're kind of repetitive.
- 20:19Daniel Moore: You know, if you're on one of those assembly lines where you put the same screw in day after day after day for eight, ten, twelve hours, I can see why you would think, what is the purpose of this?
- 20:31Daniel Moore: You know, I'm like, I'm not getting anywhere with any of this.
- 20:34Daniel Moore: Yeah, I'm part of an assembly line, I'm putting a screw in this, you know, big deal.
- 20:38Daniel Moore: But we have to look at it beyond that because what we always look at sometimes is ordinary, what we look at as just uh the regular, you know, thing that happens all the time that that's meaningless.
- 20:52Daniel Moore: God looks at that a little differently.
- 20:54Daniel Moore: He looks at that as an opportunity and he's in instills inside of us to look for opportunities in those moments to further the kingdom and to spread the gospel.
- 21:05Daniel Moore: And so we should always be looking towards those things and understand that anything that happens throughout the day, whether if it's an assignment that has taken place, um, whether if it's something that requires patience, whatever it may be, uh there's probably a reason.
- 21:22Michelle Moore: Yeah.
- 21:22Michelle Moore: That's it.
- 21:23Daniel Moore: And even though we may not see it right at that moment, it may come to play, it could be days, weeks, or months before you see what was going on that day.
- 21:31Daniel Moore: But there may have been a purpose behind that, and it's probably helped someone possibly.
- 21:36Michelle Moore: And I think sometimes we need to be thoughtful of what God is doing in those moments.
- 21:45Michelle Moore: You know, if you really think about it, when something happens, we're not immediately thinking, okay, God, what purpose do you have in this?
- 21:51Michelle Moore: I mean, a lot of times it's like, oh crap, this happened, you know.
- 21:54Michelle Moore: And like you don't really think much into it.
- 21:56Michelle Moore: But I think, you know, if we really start thinking like, What was the purpose of this, God?
- 22:01Michelle Moore: Um, you know, what are you trying to teach me?
- 22:04Michelle Moore: Or is there something I missed?
- 22:06Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 22:07Michelle Moore: And bringing it back to God, I think it would help us in the long run as well.
- 22:11Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 22:11Daniel Moore: We've always we always got to think a little ahead on some of that stuff.
- 22:15Daniel Moore: That's very good, very valid point.
- 22:17Daniel Moore: As we continue on here, we're going to talk a little bit about integrating faith and work.
- 22:21Daniel Moore: And this is a tricky place that we have to navigate sometimes.
- 22:25Daniel Moore: You know, one of the biggest mistakes many Christians make is believing there's a line separating church life from real life.
- 22:31Daniel Moore: We tend to think God only moves during Sunday worship, Bible studies, mission trips, and those emotional altar moments where the keyboard player somehow knows exactly when to hit the soft piano chords.
- 22:42Daniel Moore: But the truth is, God never intended for our faith to stay inside church walls.
- 22:46Daniel Moore: He wants it woven into every part of our lives, including our jobs, careers, workplaces, and daily responsibilities.
- 22:53Daniel Moore: And honestly, that changes the way that we can look at Monday mornings.
- 22:57Daniel Moore: Because, you know, if we look at it in an honest way, sometimes work can feel less like a calling and more like survival.
- 23:04Daniel Moore: I mean, you wake up already tired, your coffee hasn't kicked in yet, your spouse is asking where their keys are while holding the keys in their hand, and somehow you're already emotionally exhausted before it's 8 a.m.
- 23:16Daniel Moore: Then you get to work only to discover that the printer is jammed again.
- 23:19Daniel Moore: Somebody scheduled a quote unquote quick meeting that lasts an hour and 15 minutes, and your coworker replies all to every email like it's their spiritual gift.
- 23:28Daniel Moore: But you know, even in all of that chaos, God is still present in the middle of all of that.
- 23:34Daniel Moore: Our workplace is not separate from our calling.
- 23:37Daniel Moore: It's often the place where our calling is revealed.
- 23:40Daniel Moore: From the very beginning of Scripture, we see that work was never meant to be meaningless.
- 23:45Daniel Moore: You know, Genesis chapter 2, verse 15 says the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
- 23:51Daniel Moore: That means work existed before sin entered the world.
- 23:54Daniel Moore: Work itself wasn't the curse.
- 23:57Daniel Moore: Frustration, exhaustion, and toil became part of the curse after the fall.
- 24:01Daniel Moore: There's a big difference between those two.
- 24:04Daniel Moore: God created us with purpose.
- 24:07Daniel Moore: He designed us to create, build, serve, lead, help, and steward responsibilities in ways that glorify Him.
- 24:14Daniel Moore: That means whether you're leading a company, fixing vehicles, teaching children, answering phones, managing finances, running a business, or raising kids at home while stepping on Legos barefoot in the hallway, you are still operating a meaningful work.
- 24:27Daniel Moore: And for married couples, this perspective matters deeply because when we stop seeing work as just a job, we also stop seeing our spouse as just stressed or just busy.
- 24:39Daniel Moore: Instead, we begin recognizing that both husband and wife are carrying responsibilities, pressures, spiritual battles, and opportunities to represent Christ every single day.
- 24:48Daniel Moore: So that should change the way we encourage each other, the way we pray for each other, and the way we come home to each other.
- 24:54Daniel Moore: And I think that if, you know, us as spouses, we talked a little bit about this, you know, earlier, you know, when you come home, I can tell what mood you're in.
- 25:03Daniel Moore: And I can kind of tell if it's been a good day or a bad day.
- 25:06Daniel Moore: And I think you can probably tell the same with me.
- 25:08Daniel Moore: And so that first interaction that you and I have when we both walk in the door, I think should kind of set the tone for how do we need to communicate this evening.
- 25:19Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 25:19Daniel Moore: You know, and we know each other well enough that we know if one of us needs encouragement.
- 25:24Daniel Moore: We know if one of us, you know, needs uh to be able to talk and just to let let some things out, let off some steam, I guess is the way to put it.
- 25:32Michelle Moore: That's a good way to put it, actually.
- 25:33Michelle Moore: Yeah.
- 25:33Michelle Moore: Let off some steam.
- 25:35Daniel Moore: And, you know, or maybe some great stuff happened to you at work today and you're just excited to share it, you know.
- 25:40Daniel Moore: Um when it's when we first walk into our door or when we both get home, or if it's a one spouse working and the other one's a stay-at-home parent, uh, whatever it may be, as soon as the two of you see each other for the first time at the end of that work day, uh, the way you show up in that moment is going to determine, you know, the rest of your evening and how all of that's going to play out, you know, after that.
- 26:04Daniel Moore: Uh let's go ahead and continue here, and I'll let you go ahead and share the next point here.
- 26:29Michelle Moore: Yeah, a strong marriage is built when two people stop competing over exhaustion and start supporting each other's purposes.
- 26:37Michelle Moore: Colossians 3, 2324 says, Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord and not for human masters.
- 26:48Michelle Moore: Notice scripture says, Whatever you do, not only ministry, not only church work, not only spiritual jobs.
- 26:59Michelle Moore: Whatever you do, that means the mechanic honoring God through honesty is worship.
- 27:07Michelle Moore: The nurse showing compassion is worship.
- 27:10Michelle Moore: The father working hard to provide is worship.
- 27:14Michelle Moore: The mother caring faithfully for her family is worship.
- 27:19Michelle Moore: That employee choosing integrity when nobody is watching is worship.
- 27:24Michelle Moore: When our attitude changes, our work becomes an offering to God instead of just an obligation we tolerate.
- 27:32Michelle Moore: And honestly, the world desperately needs believers who live out their faith consistently in everyday environments.
- 27:41Michelle Moore: Matthew 5, 14 through 16 reminds us that we are called to be the light of the world.
- 27:49Michelle Moore: Most people won't walk into a church before they first watch how a Christian lives.
- 27:54Michelle Moore: They watch how we respond under pressure, how we handle the conflict, and how we handle difficult people and treat them, and how we react when things don't go our way.
- 28:07Michelle Moore: Because anybody can talk about Jesus when life is easy.
- 28:11Michelle Moore: But people notice when someone carries peace in difficult environments.
- 28:17Michelle Moore: Daniel is one of the greatest biblical examples of this.
- 28:21Michelle Moore: He worked in a pagan culture under ungodly leadership.
- 28:25Michelle Moore: Daniel 6.4 says they could find no corruption in him because he was trustworthy and neither corrupt.
- 28:32Michelle Moore: Daniel didn't separate his faith from his work.
- 28:36Michelle Moore: He carried his faith into his work, and eventually his influence pointed entire kingdoms toward God, and that still happens today.
- 28:47Daniel Moore: And there's a good point there that was made whenever uh that last paragraph there, Daniel didn't separate his faith from his work.
- 28:55Daniel Moore: He carried his faith into his work.
- 28:58Daniel Moore: And I really like how that sounds because whenever we go to work sometimes, especially if we are working in a very ungodly environment, we do have a tendency, I think, sometimes to leave our faith at the door and we just perform and do our thing that we're supposed to do for eight hours and then we go home.
- 29:20Daniel Moore: How much better would it be if we took our faith into that environment and tried to change the atmosphere?
- 29:27Daniel Moore: You know, I think that might work even better.
- 29:30Daniel Moore: And I actually have a little personal example of here that kind of goes along that line.
- 29:35Daniel Moore: You know, I used to work at a salvage yard years ago.
- 29:39Daniel Moore: Um I spent about nine years there.
- 29:41Daniel Moore: And to say it was a rough environment would be an understatement.
- 29:44Daniel Moore: You know, most of the men there were tough, gritty, hard-living guys.
- 29:47Daniel Moore: We called them grease monkeys.
- 29:49Daniel Moore: Um, they, you know, tore cars apart and grease and all that good stuff that guys sometimes like to do.
- 29:55Daniel Moore: Well, foul language also filled the workplace constantly.
- 29:58Daniel Moore: Crude conversations were normal and inappropriate material circulated around like it was just part of the culture.
- 30:04Daniel Moore: And you know what I'm talking about with that.
- 30:05Daniel Moore: This pornography and all that kind of thing.
- 30:08Daniel Moore: A lot of that kind of stuff was just normal there.
- 30:11Daniel Moore: Well, when I first started, I stood out immediately, not because I was perfect, but because I simply chose not to participate in things like that that dishonored God.
- 30:20Daniel Moore: But you know, at that at that time, I didn't preach at people constantly.
- 30:23Daniel Moore: I didn't act self-righteous, I didn't condemn everyone around me.
- 30:26Daniel Moore: I just quietly lived differently.
- 30:28Daniel Moore: I worked hard, I treated people respectfully, I stayed away from the gossip, and I tried to live my faith consistently.
- 30:34Daniel Moore: Well, at first, you know, people didn't know what to think about me, I'm sure, in some situations, but over time something interesting happened.
- 30:41Daniel Moore: The same men who once tested boundaries around me slowly began respecting the way that I lived.
- 30:46Daniel Moore: Eventually, many of them would avoid certain conversations around me altogether, and it wasn't because I demanded it, but because they recognized there was something different in my life.
- 30:56Daniel Moore: And the important thing with all of that is that influence often happens slowly and quietly.
- 31:01Daniel Moore: You know, most of the time we don't realize the seeds that we're planting while we're planting them.
- 31:06Daniel Moore: And we also, a lot of times, we may never fully know the impact of our quiet faithfulness until eternity reveals it.
- 31:13Daniel Moore: Well, years after leaving LKQ, the salvage yard, I received a phone call that I'll never forget.
- 31:18Daniel Moore: You know, one of the guys that I considered to be one of the toughest looking guys there that I'd worked with, he called me during a major family crisis.
- 31:27Daniel Moore: And this was a man who carried strength on the outside, but underneath it was, you know, hurting him very deeply.
- 31:33Daniel Moore: And in that desperate moment, he remembered me.
- 31:35Daniel Moore: Not because I preached sermons at work, not because I acted spiritually superior, but because I had simply tried to live faithfully in front of him.
- 31:42Daniel Moore: He asked me to pray for him and his family, and I did.
- 31:46Daniel Moore: And not long afterward, he gave his life to Christ and started attending church faithfully where he lived.
- 31:51Daniel Moore: His entire life began changing because God used a seed planted years earlier in a difficult workplace.
- 31:58Daniel Moore: And to this day, that humbles me deeply because, you know, I am very far from perfect.
- 32:03Daniel Moore: Michelle will vouch for that.
- 32:04Daniel Moore: I am not perfect.
- 32:06Daniel Moore: But I've, you know, I've had struggles, I've made mistakes, and I still need God's grace every single day.
- 32:12Daniel Moore: There's moments I failed, there's moments I got frustrated, there's moments I didn't always reflect Christ the way I should have.
- 32:19Daniel Moore: But that's what makes God's grace so incredible.
- 32:22Daniel Moore: He doesn't wait for perfect people before he uses them.
- 32:25Daniel Moore: Right.
- 32:26Daniel Moore: And you know, I I love I've shared this story with several, and you know, the guy that I'm talking about, they still attend church very regularly.
- 32:35Daniel Moore: They got baptized.
- 32:36Daniel Moore: Uh-huh.
- 32:36Daniel Moore: I mean, they've came to our church for Christmas program and different things.
- 32:40Daniel Moore: Sweet people.
- 32:41Daniel Moore: Yes, I I mean, he me and him, I always got along with him anyway.
- 32:45Daniel Moore: And that's another point.
- 32:46Daniel Moore: You know, all the guys that I worked with there, we were really good friends.
- 32:50Daniel Moore: I mean, they respected me.
- 32:52Daniel Moore: I respected them.
- 32:54Daniel Moore: Uh, we all got along great.
- 32:56Daniel Moore: You know, they just some of the stuff that they participated in, they just went ahead and respected my feelings about that and kept it away from me.
- 33:05Daniel Moore: Now they still had language around me and stuff like that.
- 33:08Daniel Moore: And so be it.
- 33:09Daniel Moore: You know, that's that's just something between them and God.
- 33:12Daniel Moore: God will convict that, you know, in due time if they give their lives to Him or whatever.
- 33:16Daniel Moore: Um, but we just we had some really good friendships.
- 33:19Daniel Moore: And, you know, I never really thought of anything coming out of any of that until that day he called.
- 33:25Daniel Moore: And that really opened my eyes and made me realize, because I had when I was at the fire department, it was kind of the same environment, but I was not an example there.
- 33:35Daniel Moore: Matter of fact, I let it change me.
- 33:36Daniel Moore: I went through a divorce there.
- 33:38Daniel Moore: Um, I had language, I kind of just joined the crowd.
- 33:41Daniel Moore: And, you know, I look back at that and I feel bad about that time in my life because there could have been times there that I could have made a difference in someone's life, but I wasn't even living how I should have to be an example in testimony.
- 33:55Daniel Moore: And so I was not the light in that darkness at that time.
- 33:59Daniel Moore: And that's that's some things I regret from back then.
- 34:02Daniel Moore: So you never know when you may make a difference in someone's life somewhere down the road, and it may be years down the road.
- 34:10Daniel Moore: But if you live your life correctly in the way God wants you to in that moment, and you shine that light like He wants you to, you're gonna have probably a testimony come out of it somewhere.
- 34:19Michelle Moore: That's good.
- 34:20Michelle Moore: So I always enjoy when you talk about that because I can remember the day you came home and you said, You're never gonna believe who called me.
- 34:27Michelle Moore: And I was like, Who?
- 34:28Michelle Moore: And then you told me, and I was like, wow, that is so awesome.
- 34:32Michelle Moore: And we begin praying.
- 34:34Michelle Moore: And you know, you prayed more than about the situation than I did, and I can still remember, you know, when you called me and told me that, you know, he was going to church and being safe.
- 34:43Michelle Moore: It was just like it it's rewarding for a wife to see your husband stand firm and to go into an atmosphere like that and stay firm through all that, and then to see it's almost gonna make me cry because from where we were at to where we are today, and to see you stand firm in that and to be a witness not even realizing that you were a witness, and to help someone see that, hey, I can go to him for prayer.
- 35:13Michelle Moore: Yeah, and know that you're gonna pray.
- 35:16Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 35:16Michelle Moore: And to see the family change over time.
- 35:19Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 35:19Michelle Moore: I mean, it's very rewarding to me as a wife to see that and that impact that you have ch you know created and your walk with the Lord.
- 35:29Daniel Moore: Well, what's crazy is when I saw that phone ring, because I I had his number in my phone.
- 35:33Daniel Moore: So as soon as he called, I saw his name.
- 35:35Daniel Moore: I own a computer business also.
- 35:38Daniel Moore: The first thing I thought was, oh, you've got a computer needs work on, you know.
- 35:42Daniel Moore: That's what everybody knows me as that are, you know, co-workers or whatever.
- 35:46Daniel Moore: And I've worked on his computers before.
- 35:48Daniel Moore: And so when I answered the phone, that's what I was expecting.
- 35:51Daniel Moore: I was he caught me totally off guard with that.
- 35:54Daniel Moore: I never in my dreams would have ever thought that someone from that job would have ever called me and asked me to pray for something for them.
- 36:02Daniel Moore: That was it was a wake-up call.
- 36:04Daniel Moore: It really opened my eyes to a lot of things when that happened.
- 36:07Daniel Moore: Because I think at that moment I hadn't really realized up till then just what kind of an impact you can really have in an environment like that.
- 36:15Daniel Moore: And now I know.
- 36:16Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 36:16Daniel Moore: And so I don't take any of that with a grain of salt.
- 36:19Michelle Moore: Yeah.
- 36:20Daniel Moore: And hopefully that example's good for anybody listening right now in whatever situation you're in, because there's a lot of ungodly workplaces out there.
- 36:27Michelle Moore: Absolutely.
- 36:27Daniel Moore: You know, there's a ton of them, and a lot of you work in them.
- 36:31Daniel Moore: And so, you know, that's just hopefully something to inspire you and encourage you just a little bit.
- 36:36Daniel Moore: So we're about to wrap up here.
- 36:38Daniel Moore: Go ahead and share this next part.
- 36:39Michelle Moore: Yeah.
- 36:39Michelle Moore: God is not looking for flawless people, He's looking for faithful and available hearts.
- 36:45Michelle Moore: Sometimes we assume God only uses pastors, missionaries, worship leaders, or people with dramatic testimonies.
- 36:53Michelle Moore: But scripture repeatedly shows God using ordinary people who simply remained obedient where they were planted.
- 37:01Michelle Moore: That means your consistency matters, your integrity matters, your kindness matters, and your attitude matters, especially in your marriage.
- 37:11Michelle Moore: Because one of the greatest testimonies a couple can have is consistency between Sunday and Monday.
- 37:17Michelle Moore: Anybody can raise their hands and worship at church, but the real challenge comes when you're both tired, stressed, when the bills are due.
- 37:26Michelle Moore: One spouse misunderstood the other's text message completely.
- 37:30Michelle Moore: And now somehow a discussion about groceries has turned into a two-hour emotional summit meeting.
- 37:36Michelle Moore: Marriage has a funny way of exposing every weakness in communication.
- 37:40Michelle Moore: Again, one spouse says, I'm fine.
- 37:44Michelle Moore: The other spouse immediately thinks that's impossible.
- 37:47Michelle Moore: Nobody's fine.
- 37:48Michelle Moore: And actually means fine.
- 37:51Michelle Moore: And somehow you both end up apologizing for things neither of you fully understood in the first place.
- 37:58Michelle Moore: But that's where grace enters.
- 38:00Michelle Moore: Ephesians 4 2 tells us to walk with humility, gentleness, patience, and love.
- 38:08Michelle Moore: Those qualities matter in a marriage, but they also matter at work.
- 38:13Michelle Moore: That same grace-like character we need in our homes is the same character we need in our workplaces.
- 38:21Michelle Moore: Because ultimately, integrating faith and work isn't about acting religious.
- 38:27Michelle Moore: It's about reflecting Jesus consistently.
- 38:30Michelle Moore: It's about realizing that every environment becomes an opportunity for kingdom impact.
- 38:37Michelle Moore: Your office can be the mission field.
- 38:39Michelle Moore: Your job site can become a ministry.
- 38:42Michelle Moore: Your home can become a testimony.
- 38:45Michelle Moore: However, your daily life can become living evidence of God's grace.
- 38:50Michelle Moore: And often the loudest sermon you'll ever preach is simply the life you quietly live.
- 38:58Daniel Moore: So we see there's a common denominator going on here.
- 39:02Daniel Moore: As we talk about this marriage is a mission thing, we talk about stewardship, we talk about the purpose God has put into all of our lives as spouses.
- 39:11Daniel Moore: Um, we see how this really intertwines in so much in everything that we're involved in.
- 39:19Daniel Moore: And you know, what's crazy to me is, you know, there's a there's a day back when that I separated all of this.
- 39:25Daniel Moore: I didn't really think work had much to do with my marriage or that marriage had much to do with I'd agree with that hospitality at my house or the myself included in that.
- 39:34Daniel Moore: Yeah, it's like you separate all those things and you don't understand that this is one big huge puzzle.
- 39:40Daniel Moore: These little pieces are keep getting put together, and the more right pieces you find that fit in the right spots, it starts creating this big huge picture.
- 39:48Michelle Moore: Well, you may not just as you say, you may not understand it.
- 39:51Michelle Moore: Sometimes we just don't even recognize it.
- 39:53Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 39:53Michelle Moore: As a Christian, we just don't put these together.
- 39:56Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 39:56Daniel Moore: We look at it just as an everyday thing that we go through.
- 40:01Michelle Moore: And I never would have thought of this.
- 40:03Daniel Moore: Yeah, it's it's amazing how all this goes together.
- 40:05Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 40:06Daniel Moore: Next week when we come back, we'll be finishing this one up on our workplace.
- 40:10Daniel Moore: Anything that you'd like to add to this week's episode?
- 40:12Michelle Moore: No, it's so good.
- 40:14Daniel Moore: I think that hopefully this week's open some eyes, you know.
- 40:17Michelle Moore: I always love hearing that story about you and Charlie.
- 40:19Daniel Moore: Yeah.
- 40:20Daniel Moore: We love it.
- 40:21Daniel Moore: I love sharing it.
- 40:22Daniel Moore: He's he's an awesome great guy.
- 40:24Daniel Moore: Him and his wife and their whole family, they're just great people.
- 40:27Daniel Moore: And I just I'm so thankful.
- 40:30Daniel Moore: I mean, and it's it's nothing about me.
- 40:32Daniel Moore: I'm not tooting my horn at all.
- 40:34Daniel Moore: Um, I'm I am thankful that I stayed the path.
- 40:37Daniel Moore: I'm so thankful for that because I am not perfect.
- 40:40Daniel Moore: I'm I messed up a lot all the time.
- 40:42Daniel Moore: And I've messed up a lot in the past.
- 40:44Michelle Moore: Well, I think about how many times you wanted to quit that job.
- 40:46Daniel Moore: Oh, I know.
- 40:47Michelle Moore: That God didn't allow it.
- 40:48Daniel Moore: Yeah, it's a it's a job I didn't like.
- 40:50Michelle Moore: No.
- 40:50Daniel Moore: Necessarily.
- 40:51Michelle Moore: And and let me tell you, it was a filler job.
- 40:53Michelle Moore: It was something he struggled going into every day.
- 40:56Michelle Moore: Yeah.
- 40:56Michelle Moore: But there was a purpose in it.
- 40:58Daniel Moore: Yep.
- 40:59Michelle Moore: And that purpose came years later.
- 41:01Daniel Moore: And I think this part of this book here, I think, has kind of came from some lessons I learned in all of that.
- 41:06Daniel Moore: So good.
- 41:08Michelle Moore: So good, babe.
- 41:09Daniel Moore: So yeah, so people may forget your words, but they will remember the consistency of your character.
- 41:14Daniel Moore: So wherever God has planted you right now, whether it's an office, a classroom, a construction site, a factory, a repair shop, a hospital, or a home full of laundry baskets and loud toddlers, never underestimate what God can do through simple faithfulness because eternity is often shaped through ordinary moments.
- 41:32Daniel Moore: And sometimes the greatest kingdom impact begins with nothing more than one person deciding I'm going to honor God or I am.com to find out everything about our ministry.
- 42:04Daniel Moore: We have resources there, which you can contact us.
- 42:08Daniel Moore: Uh the different things that we offer as a ministry, you can also check those out there at the website as well.
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- 42:24Daniel Moore: I mean, a lot of them have been really good already, but we've got some other ones coming up here that I'm really excited about.
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- 42:36Daniel Moore: Well, at the end of the day, integrating faith and work is really about understanding that God never asked us to live divided lives.
- 42:43Daniel Moore: He never intended for us to worship him on Sunday and then completely disconnect from him Monday through Friday.
- 42:49Daniel Moore: Your workplace, your responsibilities, your routines, and even the ordinary moments of your day are all opportunities to reflect Christ.
- 42:56Daniel Moore: The way you handle pressure, treat difficult people, respond to stress, honor your commitments, and carry integrity when nobody's watching says more about your faith than a thousand social media posts ever could.
- 43:08Daniel Moore: And for married couples, this matters even more because your home becomes a training ground for how you live out your faith everywhere else.
- 43:16Daniel Moore: The grace you show your spouse, the encouragement you give after a hard work day, the patience you extend when tensions are high, and the way you support each other's calling all become part of your testimony.
- 43:27Daniel Moore: Sometimes the greatest ministry isn't found on a stage, it's found in two people choosing to honor God together in everyday life.
- 43:35Daniel Moore: So as we close this week's episode, maybe the real question isn't, do I have a meaningful job?
- 43:41Daniel Moore: Maybe the better question is, am I allowing God to use me meaningfully where I already am?
- 43:47Daniel Moore: Whether you're leading a company, working long shifts, staying home raising children, fixing vehicles, teaching students, or trying to survive a workplace where the coffee is weak and the meanings are strong, God can still move through your faithfulness.
- 44:01Daniel Moore: Don't underestimate the impact of your consistency, your kindness, your honesty, or your quiet obedience.
- 44:08Daniel Moore: You may never fully see the seed you're planting in the lives around you, but heaven does.
- 44:13Daniel Moore: And one day, you may discover that the moments you thought were ordinary were actually the moments God used you most powerfully.
- 44:20Daniel Moore: A life surrender to God turns ordinary work into eternal impact.
- 44:25Daniel Moore: So, go love your spouse well, work with integrity, serve faithfully, and remember this your calling isn't just about what you do, it's also about who you represent while you do it.
- 44:38Daniel Moore: Well, that's gonna do it for this week's episode.
- 44:41Daniel Moore: We pray that your marriage is stronger and your walk with God is closer after we finish this episode this week.
- 44:46Daniel Moore: This episode is recorded in the upper room at our Connecting the Gap Studios.
- 44:49Daniel Moore: This is an extension of Connecting the Gap Ministries, and we pray that you have a blessed week.