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Ep. 3456 CNN ADMITS Trump is MOST INFLUENTIAL President as Immigration DOWN 60%!! · Turley Talks

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  [SPEAKER_02]: The liberal globalist order is on its brink and awakening a new conservative age.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Steve Turley joined me every day as we discover answers to today's toughest challenges and explore the re-bondalization of conservative civilization.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is Turley Talks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: of it like a lumpet trumps remaking the United States of America.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't think of a more influential president during this century and it starts here with tariffs in the United States.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Get this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's down.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be down at least sixty percent.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We may be dealing with.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: get this negative net migration to the United States in twenty twenty five.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That would be the first time there is negative net migration in this country.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And at least fifty years we're talking about down from two point eight million.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well CNN is just admitted something so big.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's shaking the very foundations of their years long narrative.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: For the first time in over fifty years net migration of the United States is on track to be negative.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right, more people are leaving than coming in.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's all thanks to the bold America first policies of President Donald J. Trump.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why Harry entered their senior data analyst, just called Trump the most influential president of the last century.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, according to CNN's analysis, net migration is projected to drop by at least sixty percent in twenty twenty five, hitting negative territory for the first time since the nineteen seventies.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So just last year, net migration was nearly three million people.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: When now we're looking at a complete reversal of that, with more folks headed out than coming in.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: President Trump is delivering on the promises he made on the campaign trail, cracking down on illegal migration, securing our borders, and putting American citizens first.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, this is a victory.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: for every American who's been demanding a secure border.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: For years, we've watched his open border policies under previous administrations, flooded our communities with illegal migrants, straining our schools, our hospitals, our welfare systems,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But now, ice is an action, deporting those who shouldn't be here in the first place.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not just ice.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Self deportations are also spiking as people realize the free ride is over.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Trump's policies are sending a clear message.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: America is a nation of laws and those laws will be enforced.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's brought back policies like remain in Mexico.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's slash refugee admissions that were being abused and he's cracked down on visa over stays.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: CNN's analyst Harry and then went on to say that President Trump is the most influential president of the past century.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't because Trump is tweaking policy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's because he's actually remaking America as even CNN is reluctantly admitting.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: From immigration to trade to the sheer volume of executive orders, he's moving at a pace that leases predecessors in the dust.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Trump is highly effective at enforcing his agenda.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's getting things done with an unprecedented level of action.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: In just the first six months of the second term, he signed a hundred and eighty executive orders for context Biden managed just seventy seven in his entire first year.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't even know how many of those he actually personally signed.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Trump's moving at a pace we haven't seen since FDR.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And every one of those orders is about cutting red tape, boosting the economy, or protecting our sovereignty.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So this is a huge moment for conservatives.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've been fighting for a leader who actually accomplishes important things for an America first agenda.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And Trump is that leader.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's incredibly effective.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The globalist liberal West has fought to keep him out of power and get in his way precisely because they know that his America first agenda is the end for them.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is part of what sets him apart.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not beholden to the swamp, the globalist, the woke mob.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's fighting for Americans.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is why so many forces hate him and are trying to undermine him.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, joining me today to discuss what's going on with Trump's agenda is my good friend and international geopolitical analyst, Constantine von Hoffmeister, Constantine is Edder and Chief,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: at Arctos Publishing, and he is the author of two phenomenal books, Esoteric Trumpism and Multi-Polarity.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I had the honor of writing the introduction to that, and he also has a brand new addition.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is from Arctos Publishing of Geumphi's Archaeofutrism.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know I talk often about this notion of Archaeofutrism, and Constantine and I will talk about that as well.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: If you have not read this book,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: this is your opportunity to do just that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Constantine, welcome great to see you as always.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you very much for having me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate it and I'm very grateful to you, of course.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm always grateful to you for sending it some time to chat with us.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You've been constantly, you and I just we've talked hours together.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You've been on the forefront of this rising tide of national sovereignty all over the world, the revitalization of culture, tradition, custom, archetyal, publishing is dedicated to helping to educate in that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you see this historic drop in net migration, particularly here in the United States that just seems to have such open borders over the years.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking it's down sixty percent potentially negative net migration for the first time in over fifty years.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the significance of that particularly in relation to Trump's role in reasserting American national identity?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it is all a part of the so-called bi-shift that we're witnessing, especially in the United States, but also in a West as a whole.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And what you mentioned earlier, the Trump is the most influential president in quite a long time, is definitely true, because of his bike shift, because it is not just the policies that he and acts and the executive orders that he signs, but it is a general mood, I would say, in the country that is basically influencing events and
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  [SPEAKER_01]: making them happen even without direct.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What do I mean by this?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that people in general in the United States, at least a very large percentage of citizens support what Donald Trump stands for, which is MAGA, of course, and I call it Trumpism as a movement.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: which is about the reassertion of, as you said, national sovereignty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is the most important thing in today's age where colonialism basically threatens to undermine the sovereignty of all nations and destroy their makeup by diluting
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  [SPEAKER_01]: the popular space with elements that are alien to the culture and civilization that the country represents.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Donald Trump reasserts true American culture and he wants to go back to what America used to be.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think before it became sort of watered down with the globalist influence and mass immigration and
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  [SPEAKER_01]: like the Democrats always emphasize like different values that are applicable supposedly all over the world and everybody's the same and they're what a level everything down but Trump insists that America is different it is exceptional and America should be proud of it of course and when you say that yeah he signs a lot of executive orders of course it's
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  [SPEAKER_01]: very good and it's very effective.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The only issue I see is that if there is no continuity, if Magga does not become dinathetic in my opinion, then it basically has no future because there is
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I suppose a possibility, even though remote at the time, because of the weakness of the Democratic Party, that another Democrat president might come into power in May, and this president might undermine everything that Trump was trying to build.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and then we're basically back to square one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we basically need some kind of continuity to make America not just I would say a blip or a four year gold age, but a real turning point for the United States, so the United States even in the future can become I would say the guiding light
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  [SPEAKER_01]: for the West as a whole, because that's what America has always been.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, for good or for bad, because everything that happens in America happens in the rest of the West, especially in West America, usually with a delay of like, kind of, fifteen years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So if like a long-term maga movement, you could really see a shift, not just in the United States, but in the West as a whole, in my opinion.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, well, I'm just thinking just, JD's speech back in February at the Munich Security Council, the way I mean, he just went, he went full maga and all the NATO leaders gathered there, and then met with Alice Videl of AFD, and he completely blew off Olaf Scholz.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, wow, yeah, it's forgotter for bad, the influence of America is inevitably get a wash across the continent.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: of Europe as well.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I thought about you because you are in your book, Esoteric Trumpism.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: One of the main themes of the book is that the attraction to Trump is it's not, he's not so much, and I talk about this a lot on the channel, influenced by you.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not so much a, it's not pragmatic attraction or political attraction or anything like that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's very mythic in many respects Trump.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Trump channels and these archetypes that help these archetypes that guide civilization or civilization is guided by.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought of you because Harry Anton, as I mentioned earlier, talked about Trump being
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is CNN.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't even believe they're saying it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The most influential president we've seen in the last century, citing the unprecedented pace of the executive order, a hundred and eighty executive orders in six months.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And in your book, you compare Trump to historical figures like Andrew Jackson.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And in these very mythic terms, can you elaborate on how that embodiment of heroic leadership is evident today with Trump?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's absolutely evident because we have to look beyond Trump the man and look at Trump as a symbol.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And as an idea, we have to look at what he actually represents more than what he as a human being does because all human beings are flawed, obviously nobody's perfect, including Trump.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But what he represents and what he triggered is absolutely momentous.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And history, changing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: in a really, really, really big way, because Trump, in my opinion, is based in instrument of history, whether he is conscious of this, whether he wants this or not, is actually quite irrelevant.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because sometimes history chooses certain individuals
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  [SPEAKER_01]: to propel the course of events into a radically different direction, because the course changes absolutely necessary if we don't want to end up in total dissolution.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Trump is this person, it is quite evident to me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is why he's so polarizing, because all great men in history, including Andrew Jackson and Julia Caesar were polarizing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Julia Caesar, he crossed the rubicon with his military.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He refused to stay in the province that he was assigned to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he crossed the rubicon, marched towards Rome with a legions that were loyal to him, defeated Pompeii in the Civil War, and basically declared himself dictator became the mythical, well, the most famous Roman in all of history pretty much, obviously, truly a Caesar.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: really made Rome a glorious empire.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Trump Trump has the potential.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that he should declare himself dictator obviously, but he has the potential to be such a figure that can rally the popular masses around him and not the elite because Julius Caesar himself
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  [SPEAKER_01]: allied himself with the popularist, with the populist, basically, against the parasitical aristocrats.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So did Andrew Jackson, who smashed the parasitical bank, for example, yes, and also rallied the masses around him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: for the glory of the nation, and not just for the interests of some paddling deep state figure, basically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, right, I think, from the figure at the same.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And as I said earlier, it is not just in the United States that is influence is felt, but also among patriotic forces in Europe.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you mentioned shady vansist, glorious speech and unique, but
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just quite recently, like Donald Trump was in Scotland.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So when we're not about like how basically the European leaders are ruining their nations by flooding them with culturally incompatible animal space.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you need to stop this, basically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so you have this new administration of shady bands who pointed out in Munich that there is no free speech in Europe.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You have Trump appointed out that mass immigration, especially the illegal kind, is destroying Western Europe recently.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's destroying the United States before Trump and the power and put a stop to it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the madening part of it, I know for for Europeans, as as a Nigel Farage pointed out, our big problem here was illegal immigration.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Your big problem is legal immigration, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just the opening up of the borders by the bullies and Brussels without any semblance of care.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: for for maintaining the unique cultures, customs and traditions on the on the continent.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And we all know where they end up anyway if they if they because of the shengen protocol, they're all going up and and you're in your deck of the woods in your backyard, they all just want to go to Germany for all the because of its economy and all of its welfare benefits.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's you know, you mentioned seat Julius Caesar because you talk about in your book.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: on esoteric Trumpism.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You talk about the importance of Oswald Spangler identified as a Caesar figure throughout history, where civilizations are on the brink, and they look like they're about to fall, and the people just naturally long for a kind of Caesar figure
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  [SPEAKER_02]: to save them.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, I remember watching a CNN episode.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I did a video on this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I even sent it to you where Trump is walking in to a UFC fight.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a Madison Square guard and people going nuts.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And even the CNN panel has said, it was like Caesar returning it going into the Coliseum having conquered
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  [SPEAKER_02]: the enemies and so far and he had his whole entourage mark a rubios behind them told sea gathered rfk and just the way they're walking you can't help it yet there's a vibe that they are embodying whether they know it or not there's a there are historical wins
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  [SPEAKER_02]: that they're in bud, but you were writing about that back in twenty, I think this came out in twenty four.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you were you were recognizing that beat, I mean, literally months before we all saw it explicitly.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you just go a little bit into depth on Oswald's Bangler and this notion of a Caesar figure and how Trump is embodying particularly that?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just to summarize quicks of Oscar Spengler is the German philosopher historian whose most famous for his book The Decline of the West, which actually wrote in the nineteen twenties, so over one hundred years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And in this book, he says that all civilizations, including the West, are basically like organisms, like a human life, like a human being.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They are born, the mature, they crawl, and then they wither, and then they die.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he says it's completely inevitable, just the way of the world, basically, because nothing lasts forever in this material world of ours.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he specifically talked about the West and the end stage of the West.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because even one hundred years ago, he felt that the West is already in terminal decline because of decadents, deportory, loss of values, loss of culture.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And now, ultimately, what we see where we're seeing now, especially in New York, is a loss of identity.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when people don't really know who they are and who they belong to, which ethmos.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: they actually belong to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have this feeling of belonging anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything is in total dissolution.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And the point also, Spangler, in this period of dissolution that the West is undergoing, there will arise strong leaders, strong figures, and it calls them the Caesar's, the rise of the Caesar's in the end stage of the West who will try, who will try to sort of stem the tide of decline and reassert
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  [SPEAKER_01]: the form on glory that the West represented the Faustian spirit sort of speak.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it is my belief that Chrome is one of these fears.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very, very apparent to me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we have other figures on the world stage.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Who ever don't subscribe as these are figures, like Victor Orban and Hungary would be one, Vladimir Putin and Russia for sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And Donald Trump, Modi and India, if you talk more about other cultures as well,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And these people basically tap into the, I would say, what Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychologist, describe as sort of like the collective unconscious, the soul of a people basically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, what these people actually represent on, on, on, on an, on an archetypal,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: way in the archetypal way basically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Trump is sort of also like an archetype.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of like, like, almost like a Hindu avatar of some sort of deity basically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So he is more than a man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to look beyond Trump as a person and look at Trump as the avatar that is coming basically to avenge the people against the user perspective.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, this is basically what I was trying to express in the book.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is the main point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not really about Trump.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I see as human being thus, but the movement and the force if he engendered basically.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and again, that's what I love about the esoteric that these forces, these historical forces that are happening and are manifesting themselves.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And in this avatars sort of way, I think Michael Miller, Minnellex, to refer to him as the sun king, you know, especially with the blonde hair and so on, but just just having this almost mandate from heaven kind of
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's not this the fascinating things.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not the trained politician.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He isn't looking at focus groups and so on and so forth.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He just he seems to be above the fray of the whole DC swamp like frames of reference that all the other politicians are caught up and JD van seems to have a little bit of that as well seems to be very much all of them.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone who's surrounding Trump seems to be a bit above that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that's that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious what you think, Concenting based on what you've been seeing, particularly on the International State.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That said, what would you think, what would you describe as perhaps the greatest threat to Trump's conservative national agenda?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, as I'm sure you know, many MAGA faithful were very nervous about the Tehran strike.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't want to get bogged down another
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't even know why we were intervening in that in the first place.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We're very nervous of the way Trump has been talking tough against Putin of late, almost sounds identical to Biden in the way he's talking about Russia.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think is, is that the greatest risk that are the neocons still around exercising influence?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you, what do you think is going on there?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the neocons are definitely still around, of course.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Talking quickly about the strike on Iran, in my opinion, it was quite a brilliant chess move of Trump, basically, because no matter what people say on X, or Facebook, or wherever, like they say, OK, it will Trump attack Iran and he promised peace.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he didn't actually start a war, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's no war going on between the United States and Iran.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And Trump is not king and he's not emperor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So he can't make all decisions and basically decide what is happening in U.S.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: policy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the United States is still a republic and you still have checks and balances.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think there are different factions around Trump, like very powerful factions.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Trump has to basically
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  [SPEAKER_01]: do a balancing act by pleasing these factions because he, I think he, he cannot alienate these factions because they might harm him in a very bad way if he did so.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So in the case of Iran, I think, of course, you have the neocons that were screaming for war with Iran.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and also they have a lot of sort of influence, I would say, with a deep state, still not unfeated, in my opinion, or be thrown.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you have to please this faction, and he did it quite brilliantly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he did the same in his first administration.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He also did like a sort of contained strike, basically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Salamani strike, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really have major repercussions, and also didn't lead to a war.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So in that sense, I think it was a brilliant chess move, and he did very well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: in my opinion, so I would never criticize him for this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's going on with Ukraine now, of course it's the neocons and I think Trump is genuinely disappointed that he wasn't able basically to broker a piece as he had promised during his campaign for the presidency.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's losing patience.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he's a human being after all, so he's losing patience, he's trying all kinds of
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  [SPEAKER_01]: art of the deal move, so to speak, like, carrot and the stick basically now it's more the stick.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's the carrot at the moment.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think he's he's underestimating Russian resolve and I think it's because he doesn't understand that the Russians are not impressed with the stick.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's well said.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was well said, Constantine.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think a lot of our American audience necessarily recognizes.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love how you just put that Russians are not impressed with sticks.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: They dealt with sticks for a thousand years.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not impressed.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the Russians will continue.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it doesn't really matter what you think about this conflict, but the Russians are resolved to settle this conflict on their terms and they're not going to be swayed from their force, even by Trump.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Trump is not going to succeed.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in basically threatening or sort of blackmailing the Russians into some sort of deal that they're not willing to enter.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think there's no chance.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's very difficult in my opinion to predict.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very risky especially like because with a tweet by Medvedev, Medvedev wrote something called Donald Trump, a grandfather wrote something mean about Donald Trump.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Donald Trump's then what he said that he sent nuclear submarines closer to Russia's borders.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's like really, I would say it's risky business, right?
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit escalated.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a major escalated.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's hope things will calm down in that respect.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, of course, a lot of threats.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the globalists are still in power because
• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: The neocons still call them shots.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The deep state, like I said earlier, has not been kicked out.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And these people have to be placated somehow.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Trump is trying to maneuver his way through almost like a political mind field, I would say.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to find the best way out, what is best
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, for America, because that's his priority, as it should be, because he's a president of the American people.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's hope, and I'm quite confident that Trump will succeed in a sort of course correction, and going back to what he really represents, which is the interest of the American people, the interest of the American nation, and not the interest of the deep state who wants the United States to still play the global policeman, so to speak.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, very, very well said.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very well said.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just chat about a little bit about your brand new addition of Giam Phi, the French theorists, work, archaeofuters, and very influential on this channel.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I refer to it quite often.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have an excellent intro and here forward, yeah, introduction, excellent, wonderful summation.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: of Archaeofuture, Archaeofutureism as a paradigm for understanding what's happening in our world today.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell us a little bit about what was behind this new addition from Arctos publishing?
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we publish a new addition because it's very timely now because we live in an Archaeofutureist world more than ever before and we can see it all over the world.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We can see
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Confucian China, which normally calls itself communist, but is not really communist, right?
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it is actually driven by millennia old ideals and values.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a deeply traditional Confucian society.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it is
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: all pro modern and very sophisticated in terms of technology.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you look at all the videos that people record posts on acts of stuff that's going on in China, it's like completely wild.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not actually, yeah, the rest is completely behind.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, India, India, another civilization state under Modi with a revival of the traditional Hindu culture, but at the same time,
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: really doing space exploration and entering the space race.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is also a key of futurism.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then, of course, you had the whole idea with Elon Musk going to Mars in the United States, totally archived futurism, especially if you
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: steer the whole idea of progress and technology away from the awoke disease, which is happening, at least in the United States, and in other civilisation states across the world of the Russian Federation in India and China.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is not happening in Western Europe because I think the headquarters of
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: will incorporate that has shifted from the United States, in my opinion, to Germany now, because it's the most powerful country in the European Union, but the European Union itself is not the embodiment of global homo, so to speak.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Starchy of futurism is the future though, because especially now with the advent of artificial intelligence, which cannot be stopped.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just recently, I just recently read a tweet by an AFD politician called Maximilian Kra on X. And he said that the European Union simply doesn't understand what is going on.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Germany could rid of nuclear power plants and cheap Russian energy.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: at the same time several years ago, like ruining its industry-based economy, and has a total obsession with environmentalism and green renewal, renewable energy, electric cars, all that stuff, while Donald Trump
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: and his administration got rid of restrictions basically left and right and drill baby drill right because in his new race which is our compared to the space race that occurred in the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States where everybody was trying to
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: go further into space and top the other, top the other party.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we have the artificial intelligence race and I think the key players are definitely China in the United States and whoever comes out on top will be, will rule the world basically.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how it is because artificial intelligence is a genie.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's already out of the bottle.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot put it back in.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But your opinion would be left behind because they don't even have the energy right now.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Recall it.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: to power artificial intelligence.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know how much energy, even like the whole Bitcoin thing.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, artificial intelligence at tenfold.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, I like how I know El Salvador where they're mining near your mining for Bitcoin near being powered by volcanoes, basically.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just, it's incredible.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would just even the way we're talking about it, how we're seeing cities like Jeddah, you know, and nations like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, you mentioned like Shanghai, Beijing, Dubai, all of the cities of the future are actually being built in very, very traditionalist
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: societies.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas we're our, I guess what we have a couple of new ones, maybe Vegas or something like that, where you and I have hung out before, but most of our cities in Europe and the United States, they tend to be more museum, it's like they tend to be more
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: historical, the great cathedrals or whatever, just Philadelphia, like, you know, where seventeen, seventy-six.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: But these other places are like, they're looking to their cities look to the future, ours look to the path.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're both are great, but it is fascinating that the new ones, the real high tech, sort of cyberpunk cities are being found in some of the most traditional societies.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, I think it also ties in with multi-polarity because in the multi-polar age, which we're living in right now, which I also call the new age of empires, we have stabilization states.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have several you wrote a great introduction to this book by the way.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to thank you again.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So in this new age of empires and it's multiple world we have different civilization states that basically re assert their identity in a very very very strong way but forward-looking because you just put it very very nicely when you said that in the West especially in Western Europe
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: culture history is a museum.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: People look at it.
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is how it used to be.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: now we're all cool with gay pride rates and you know techno discos and bars and all that stuff so I mean we can we can look at the Roman sculptures and the Colosseum you know just to out of pure curiosity or interest the people don't really feel a connection to their own answers to any more they don't feel that these people that build the Colosseum that they are actually a direct line millennia back basically that
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm an unbroken, basically, succession of generations that build the Roman Empire and the people in Western Europe today that direct descendants, but they themselves don't see it because they have lost touch with their identity.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they might still be interested in technological progress, but it's completely divorced from any kind
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: of values and from any kind of rootedness.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: While another country is like China, you have rootedness in Russia, you have rootedness.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think in America it's coming back to the rootedness because people understand that identities also rooted in the soil, right?
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: right, and it is the soil and the soil of a people that creates identity.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't say that immigration per se is a bad thing.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, you can have immigration, but it should be quality immigration.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It should be immigration of people that can help you build the fuel utilization.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, without giving up, you are right.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're, I would say, your ethnic soul in the process, right?
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like the most has done for so long.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you need to tap into the values and the heritage that made your civilization your culture great in the first place and utilize them.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: to move forward in the future and give him a fine in the book, OK, a futurism.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He makes a very good, I mean, he mentions that like a lot of the spaceships and the rockets, the NASA rockets, they carry the classical Greek and Roman names like Apollo mission.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Apollo, yes, yeah.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is total OK of futurism right there because you acknowledge
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: your heritage, your myths, basically, while at the same time trying to move further and further into space to spread your civilization.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that this is the spirit of a key of futurism.
• 35:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't recommend a book more for people to read as well as Constantine von Hoffmeister's multi-polarity and esoteric.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Trumpism, where could people keep up with the Constantine?
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know you have a great, you're a Siberia.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Substack, where would you, we've got the links down below to keep up with your work?
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where would you like people to go?
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, actually, well, I have eurosabiria.net, which is my personal sub-steck where I post several essays per week on geopolitics culture and philosophy.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually have a new project that I've started a couple of weeks ago.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's called Malta Pola Press.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: On which I publish a variety of authors, including Alexander Dugin, we publish the exclusive English language articles that Alexander Dugin writes translated from Russian, exclusively on Malta Pola Press.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: of us from all over the world, basically, to explore the notion of multiculturality, and its importance in today's discourse.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is totally, I mean, Mark Rubio talks about it nowadays.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you mentioned it.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jady Gans basically admitted it in a speech at the Naval Academy in anapolis.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: same basically we live in a multi-polar world I mean you can't ignore anymore and so multi-polar press is basically a thing tank that publishes different views on the emerging new civilization order that we're now experiencing in the club so and then of course we have undoubtedly an chief of artists so there's also art because journal on which
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: We publish a variety of conservative voices that basically reflect the the architecture's motto which is to make to make anti-clobalism global.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that so much.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you said me a hat make anti-clobalism global again.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: for other like that.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, everyone, make sure you click on the links below and keep up with contentings amazing work.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what I love so much about all of those resources is you're going to see how when we talk about a new conservative age rising, you're going to see how it's manifesting itself and it's unique and rich tapestry like ways all over the world civilization.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely beautiful stuff and no one does it.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: like like Constantine does and Arctolls and and in the sub stack and alike.
• 38:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So always great to see in my friend.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's have you back very very soon.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's my pleasure.
• 38:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 38:25
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• 38:27
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• 38:43
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