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Trending Up: Ohio State Offensive Line Recruiting Update · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys so much for joining me. As we
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Speaker 2: got some news just a couple of hours ago, following
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Speaker 2: a tweet that the official Ohio state Twitter account put
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Speaker 2: out yesterday. They put it out yesterday so there would
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Speaker 2: be announcement today at six fourteen pm. And this is
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Speaker 2: what that tweet looked like. Harry you've got a you've
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Speaker 2: got to countdown. He's in the dark, which could mean
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Speaker 2: a couple things. Right, of course, we've had a lot
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Speaker 2: of speculation for a little while now as to what
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Speaker 2: this may be. Right the spring game, Ohio State always
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Speaker 2: wears their regular jerseys. This year, however, I'm standing there
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Speaker 2: taking pictures with Tom, and outcome the special teamers, the kickers,
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Speaker 2: the punters, the long snapper. They always come out first,
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Speaker 2: and they come out wearing not the regular uniforms that
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Speaker 2: Ohio State wears, but they're wearing this ugly practice style
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Speaker 2: jersey with no names on the back, but it has
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Speaker 2: the sleeves. And I'm looking thinking, wait a minute, could
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Speaker 2: it possibly be that they're just putting this on the specialists. No,
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Speaker 2: that couldn't possibly be. That could not possibly be. And
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Speaker 2: I'm waiting forever to see the next group of players
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Speaker 2: come out, and it took forever, and then I see
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Speaker 2: them and they come out and they're all wearing them,
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Speaker 2: and my heart is just thumping. What does this mean?
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Speaker 2: I think back to a conversation I had oh probably
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Speaker 2: right around the end of the season, and he said
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Speaker 2: to me that he thinks this is the last time
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Speaker 2: we're going to see them where the helmet striped jersey,
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Speaker 2: And in twenty twenty six, it's coming back. The helmet
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Speaker 2: stripe gone, the heritage stripe back. We're going back permanently.
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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here all excited. I didn't say anything
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Speaker 2: about it on the show, and then we're hearing more
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Speaker 2: and more hints drop, and we started talking about it,
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Speaker 2: getting excited for it, and then this tweet comes out,
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Speaker 2: and I am ready for this thing to drop. I
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Speaker 2: think I wrote an article about it, I did a
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Speaker 2: video about it, and out they come. Man, We've waited
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Speaker 2: forever for this to go back to the proper sleeves,
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Speaker 2: and I couldn't wait to come on and do a
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Speaker 2: show after that spring game. I mean I talked about
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Speaker 2: it forever, and then you see this tweet in the
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Speaker 2: announcement today was not that they are going back to
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Speaker 2: the regular sleeves on the regular jersey, but that they're
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Speaker 2: bringing out a black jersey. Now we knew there was
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Speaker 2: a black jersey coming out. I had talked about that
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Speaker 2: on the show as well. The players were excited about
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Speaker 2: a new black uniform coming out, and I didn't think
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Speaker 2: it'd be much different than the last one, but I
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Speaker 2: did assume it would have the heritage stripes because I
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Speaker 2: did believe and still do believe that the heritage stripes
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Speaker 2: or the proper sleeves will be back on the jersey
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Speaker 2: regular jersey. But they come out today with this new
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Speaker 2: black jersey that features this sleeve and it's beautiful. It's reflective,
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Speaker 2: and I don't think that'll be what's on the regular uniform.
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Speaker 2: But the uniform itself is gorgeous. I love it, and
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Speaker 2: of course Jeremiah models any uniform great, but it's just awesome.
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Speaker 2: And the helmet itself has little silver flex in it.
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Speaker 2: It's not the same as the helmet I have one
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Speaker 2: of the black helmets up here. I'll have to get
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Speaker 2: a new one because it does not have this one
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Speaker 2: doesn't have flex, and of course I need the flex, right,
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Speaker 2: it's got to be official. So we'll have to get
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Speaker 2: a new helmet. But this thing is bad, and I
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Speaker 2: about it. So exciting stuff there. But as I'm looking
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Speaker 2: at this, I look up in the top left and
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Speaker 2: there's this little picture here in the top left of
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Speaker 2: the release. In the little picture you can see right
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Speaker 2: there in the top left you got the block. Oh
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Speaker 2: and then you got the stripes, you get the stripe
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Speaker 2: logo next to the block. Oh. So we're thinking back
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Speaker 2: to the spring game. We're looking at that little logo
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Speaker 2: next to the block. Oh, And it's clear what they're
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Speaker 2: building up to here. They're highlighting the stripes right there.
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Speaker 2: They're highlighting the stripes with this uniform. And I fully
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Speaker 2: believe the next time we see Ohio State roll out
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Speaker 2: onto the field against ball State, that they're gonna be
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Speaker 2: wearing the scarlet white black on the sleeve and we're
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Speaker 2: going to see the proper sleeves back. And that's my
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Speaker 2: story and I'm sticking to it. I know some people
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Speaker 2: are starting to doubt it a little bit. I saw
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Speaker 2: some stuff on Twitter. It's coming, It's coming. They're doing
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Speaker 2: a very proper reveal here, right. They teased us first
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Speaker 2: with the spring game. They teased us with that, and
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Speaker 2: remember they didn't say anything about that. They just put
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Speaker 2: that little nugget out there and let us all speculate
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Speaker 2: about it. Now they come out with this. They use
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Speaker 2: the stripes right there in the logo, and they leave
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Speaker 2: it for us to think about a little more. And
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Speaker 2: the next time we see it, it's gonna be the
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Speaker 2: end of twenty years of you and I standing next
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Speaker 2: to a Wisconsin fan and a Nebraska fan in a
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Speaker 2: Buckeye jersey and somebody else thinking we're all Wisconsin fans
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Speaker 2: because that is what they did twenty years ago when
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Speaker 2: they switched it to the helmet stripe jersey. And it's
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Speaker 2: finally gonna end. It's over, And of course I could
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Speaker 2: be happier, though, I will say when I watch the video,
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Speaker 2: there's a video that came out with those and or
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Speaker 2: the video that came out with this uniform reveal, and
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Speaker 2: I'm watching this video and I'm just thinking, like, fast
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Speaker 2: forward two years when they do one of these things
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Speaker 2: the video reveal and it's gonna have advertising patches on
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Speaker 2: the uniform, like that's coming next. And that was what
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Speaker 2: I was thinking when I was watching this. But I
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Speaker 2: love this thing. Man. I want to see what some
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Speaker 2: of you guys think. Emily thinks Ohio State is now
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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift with Easter eggs. Yeah, I don't get that
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Speaker 2: reference at all, Emily. I'd be surprised if any other
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Speaker 2: of the gentlemen in here get that. I don't. So
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Speaker 2: are we just going to wear these for the Oregon game?
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Speaker 2: If the Oregon game starts at If it's a three
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Speaker 2: thirty game, then it'll be dark. So we want to
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Speaker 2: have this dark because these are reflective sleeves, and they
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Speaker 2: got the speckles in the helmet that'll reflect off the helmet.
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Speaker 2: Also when that's game, when that game is played, we'll
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Speaker 2: have at least one side of the helmet that's not
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Speaker 2: full of the red reflective buck ie leaves, which, boy,
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Speaker 2: let me tell you, those things are really expensive to
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Speaker 2: get the official red ones. I got the official red
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Speaker 2: ones and I had some fake ones made up too
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Speaker 2: to fill that black helmet. Oh man, easy, he's got
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Speaker 2: tunnel vision for the tunnel vision uniforms. Duck never really
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Speaker 2: noticed any detail on the uniform. Go Badger's there, we go,
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Speaker 2: Tony's with me. Ethan says, the black and grays are
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Speaker 2: a thing of beauty. Hope it carries over to the
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Speaker 2: home scarlet uniforms. I believe it will, Bud, I believe
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Speaker 2: it will. Andrew Lynn thinks it should be announced in
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Speaker 2: just a few days. That's awesome if we can just
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Speaker 2: wait a few days. No, it's not. It's not. It
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Speaker 2: has not been announced officially, Rod, But I mean, I
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Speaker 2: believe it's official, and they're just they're just building it
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Speaker 2: up from the spring game to this and then the
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Speaker 2: final I mean when you look at that logo in
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Speaker 2: that top left horner, that that logo right there with
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Speaker 2: the block oh and the stripes, it's clear what this
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Speaker 2: is all about. Right, this isn't all about a black uniform.
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Speaker 2: It's all about those stripes. They put it with the
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Speaker 2: block oh and thus giving away what the what the
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Speaker 2: whole campaign here is the campaign is about the stripes,
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Speaker 2: and honestly, I think it's a huge win for the
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Speaker 2: Ohio State fan base. I mean, I know some people
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Speaker 2: don't like this. Some people want the stripes to match
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Speaker 2: the pants, and I can understand. I'm a fan of uniformity,
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Speaker 2: but you know, when it comes to this particular thing here,
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Speaker 2: like this is this is tradition. This is what stands
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Speaker 2: out about the Ohio State uniform in a lot of
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Speaker 2: ways to me. Like to me, removing these stripes on
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Speaker 2: the sleeves is akin to saying one year, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: stop putting the stickers on the helmet. Like That's how
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Speaker 2: this felt to me for the last twenty years. And
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Speaker 2: I think that the uh, there's a lot of people
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Speaker 2: who say I like these better. I like the heritage
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Speaker 2: stripes better, but I'd rather keep them for special occasions.
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Speaker 2: And I also dig doing things for special occasions, right,
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Speaker 2: I like that too. Maybe they want to do the
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Speaker 2: all whites or the all red for a special occasion.
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Speaker 2: What I can't get behind is now these were ours
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Speaker 2: every week, and now you're going to take them for
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Speaker 2: me and just sprinkle them in if our team makes
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Speaker 2: the national championship. Screw that. I don't like that. Do
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Speaker 2: not get down with that one bit. But I get
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Speaker 2: the sentiment of having something that goes for special occasions.
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Speaker 2: I'm with that. But the vast, vast, vast majority of
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Speaker 2: the Ohio State fan base wants to see these back.
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Speaker 2: And I got to be honest, man, I think this
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Speaker 2: is a huge win for the Ohio State fan base
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Speaker 2: and the fact that we were heard, We were really
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Speaker 2: heard here. There's no doubt in my mind that social
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Speaker 2: media and the ability to put our collective voice behind
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Speaker 2: something got this message in front of the right eye
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Speaker 2: of the decision makers in one way or another. That
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Speaker 2: this is something that the fan base like almost unilaterally
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Speaker 2: supports and wants to see. Let's take advantage of it
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Speaker 2: with a campaign, make some money off of it. However,
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Speaker 2: we all win, right, we all win if we get
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Speaker 2: what we want and they get what they want. It's
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Speaker 2: all good stuff. But a big pat on the back
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Speaker 2: for the Buckeye community at large, and even people who
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Speaker 2: weren't for this change should feel good about this because
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Speaker 2: most of the time they're going to be in the
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Speaker 2: majority with something in the future, and knowing that you can,
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Speaker 2: you know you can work together and get what you
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Speaker 2: want in front of the right people. And kudos to
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Speaker 2: Ohio State. The best way to run a business is
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Speaker 2: to pay attention to your dog on customers, and they
11:47
Speaker 2: paid attention to their customers in this instance, all of
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Speaker 2: which want them back almost all. Number two, I think
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Speaker 2: the Buckeye fan base has always had a lot of
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Speaker 2: poll and a lot of in fluence on the team,
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Speaker 2: and I think that it's in large part why the
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Speaker 2: team's never had a big dip because it's such a
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Speaker 2: pressure cooker and the fans are unrelenting about everything. So
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Speaker 2: congratulations to all of us for a job well done.
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Speaker 2: And and that black uniform is glorious. I would uh,
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Speaker 2: I'd love to see it with with the gray pants
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Speaker 2: and the regular helmet. I'd love to see it mixed
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Speaker 2: in in a couple of different ways because I think
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Speaker 2: it's just awesome. Uh. I saw somebody talking about our man,
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Pancakes, and we got to talk to Emily said,
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Speaker 2: it's an that's an Easter egg. Okay, oh yes, the
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Speaker 2: stringing arch is so so inside the collar of the
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Speaker 2: black uniform. Trent points out that I forgot there is
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Speaker 2: the and I forget the technical name. I'm sure somebody
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Speaker 2: will put it up there. But the the arch, the
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Speaker 2: stringing arches in the uh, in the rugunda, the red art,
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Speaker 2: that's awesome, and that's in the inside collar there. So
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Speaker 2: the festoon is what they call it the festoon. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: somebody brought up in the comments here about Jimmy Pancakes,
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Speaker 2: and of course we had the under Armour Columbus camp
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Speaker 2: over the weekend and we had some Buckeye commits down there,
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Speaker 2: one of which was Jimmy Pancakes, another Jamiir Brown and
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Speaker 2: Jamiir Brown. While he was there, a couple of questions
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Speaker 2: from some I think eleven Warriors asked him about his
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Speaker 2: recruitment and he just kind of casually said that he's
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Speaker 2: not taken any visits, essentially shut his recruitment down while
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Speaker 2: he was there, that he had not said it publicly
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Speaker 2: before he said it, and that's great. Remember it wasn't
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Speaker 2: but two months ago that On three was trying to
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Speaker 2: kind of stir up potentially Miami really getting involved here,
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Speaker 2: and Jamier certainly shut that down when he moved closer
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Speaker 2: to campus, but he officially set it on the record
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Speaker 2: that he's not planning on taking a single visit. He's
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Speaker 2: all the way locked in, which we all knew anyway.
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Speaker 2: But as far as that camp, conflicting opinions on how
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Speaker 2: Jamiir performed, which you know usually it's always nothing but
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Speaker 2: nothing but great stuff that you hear about Jamiir in
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Speaker 2: one of those settings, but I did see one negative
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Speaker 2: review over on Rivals about that it was just a
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Speaker 2: really inconsistent day for him, which you'll have. Bottom line is, man,
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Speaker 2: he's he's got a ways to go to learn how
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Speaker 2: to be a polished wide receiver. He's he's a track
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Speaker 2: kid who also played football as a return man learning
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Speaker 2: how to play wide receiver, and just a tremendous athlete
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Speaker 2: with ridiculous speed. But a good day all in all,
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Speaker 2: the best day was not had by him as a receiver.
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Speaker 2: But another guy won the MVP over at Rivals and
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Speaker 2: he is a receiver. But the runner up for the
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Speaker 2: MVP over at Rivals was Jimmy Pancakes. K Liss. Jimmy
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Speaker 2: Pancakes not only the MVP runner up, but Jimmy Pancakes
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Speaker 2: got an invitation to the Under Armour All American Game. Now, Jimmy,
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Speaker 2: when we look at him at six foot seven, two
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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety pounds, his issue not issue, but his
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Speaker 2: strength is run blocking, So I call him Jimmy Pancakes.
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Speaker 2: He's a very aggressive run blocker. It's why a lot
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Speaker 2: of people think eventually he might be a guard at
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Speaker 2: six foot seven six foot eight, because he's such a
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Speaker 2: great run blocker, and they kind of might doubt his
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Speaker 2: pass blocking ability. Well, yesterday at the camp, going against
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Speaker 2: some really good pass rushers, it turned a lot of
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Speaker 2: people's heads and a lot of people are starting to thinking, Oh,
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Speaker 2: maybe he may stay at right tackle the ones that
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Speaker 2: were doubting him, and should that be the case. We're
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Speaker 2: looking at twenty twenty six Sam Greer twenty twenty seven
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Pancakes two enormous bookend tackles NFL type dogs, and
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Speaker 2: that's pretty exciting when we talk about the line in
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Speaker 2: the future, the interiors loaded, we're just looking at all, right,
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Speaker 2: who's going to be on the edge here, And with
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Pancakes and Sam Greer, that sounds really good. In
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Speaker 2: addition to Jamiir, he was also coaching up Lorenzo McMullen.
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Speaker 2: Lorenzo McMullen, a top ten wide receiver in the twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty eight class out of Cincinnati, an in state kid
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Speaker 2: who was apparently really really good at this camp, and
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Speaker 2: he also came to visit Ohio State for the first
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Speaker 2: time over the spring, left without an offer. Five star
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Speaker 2: kid wasn't offered by Cortez Hankton. That's something I forgot
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Speaker 2: to talk about when we were talking about Cortes the
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Speaker 2: other day because it really ticked him off, really ticked
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Speaker 2: him off. Mc bullen. So the book guy's in a
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Speaker 2: hole right there. Should they want to get in that race,
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Speaker 2: we'll see who knows. Anymore when it comes to in
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Speaker 2: state guys, these things used to be like automatic. Of
16:54
Speaker 2: course you're going to get in on an in state
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Speaker 2: five star. Now anymore, you just never know. But they
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Speaker 2: say he's continuing to improve as a route runner, which
17:03
Speaker 2: was a little bit of the knock on him, and
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Speaker 2: he created a ton of space working over the middle, second,
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Speaker 2: third level. But Michigan, Florida, Notre Dame, Penn State, and
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Speaker 2: Oregon among the programs in on him now the five
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Speaker 2: star from Cincinnati, which feels like that should be absolutely
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Speaker 2: in Ohio state grab. But here is the board of
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Speaker 2: the top performers from rivals yesterday at the camp with
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Speaker 2: Trey Britton the number one wide receiver. That's a five
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Speaker 2: foot five foot nine, five foot ten hundred and seventy pounder.
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kyless, number two, Antoine Wilkes. That's a pass rush.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's a that's an edge. I thought he
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Speaker 2: was an edge. Yeah, him as a tackle here anyway.
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Speaker 2: He's out of Detroit. Gideon Gash, Kellen Hall. He is
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Speaker 2: a defensive lineman out of Louisville that the Buckeyes are after.
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Speaker 2: He is I believe the number one defensive lineman in
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Speaker 2: the class. Lorenzo McMullen Junior, GEO McKnight out of Pick North.
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Speaker 2: GA McKnight out of Pick North making some waves. A
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Speaker 2: three star that's going to shoot up the board. Jamiir
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Speaker 2: Brown number nine. You hate to see Jamir Brown number nine,
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Speaker 2: but whatever it is, what it is. So that from
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Speaker 2: the camp yesterday. Jamiir Weiss was also there. Jamiir Weiss,
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Speaker 2: the number one player in Ohio in twenty twenty eight,
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Speaker 2: who is committed to the buck Eyes from Trotwood, Madison.
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Speaker 2: He is. He's about six foot four, two seventy five
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Speaker 2: right now. I saw him at the Woody on the
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Speaker 2: student appreciation day. He looks mammoth with this this baby face,
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Speaker 2: and it's just hilarious. It's like a man's body a
18:38
Speaker 2: little boy's face. But that is what we got. As
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Speaker 2: far as recruiting from the camp. Jordan Karhoff, Well, let's
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Speaker 2: start here. RJ Day. RJ Day. I'm sure a lot
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Speaker 2: of you saw RJ Day commits to Northwestern over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: Number one. Congratulations. That's not a guy that I thought
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Speaker 2: would be playing in the Big ten. So a huge,
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Speaker 2: huge accomplishment. You know, he started off with smaller offers
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Speaker 2: and then it got up to mac offers and then
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Speaker 2: just slowly grew. Now he'll enter his senior season as
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Speaker 2: a Big ten committed quarterback. And a time when Northwestern
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Speaker 2: is sexy. Man, I'd love to go to Northwestern right now.
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Speaker 2: They got the new stadium opening up and it's going
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Speaker 2: to be awesome. I've showed you guys the site lines
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Speaker 2: in the stadium. They built it smaller and like from
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Speaker 2: the distance from the field to the furthest seat away
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Speaker 2: is so much closer than in the stadiums were used
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Speaker 2: to because of the way they built it. It's like
19:42
Speaker 2: stacked on top of each other in a way that
19:44
Speaker 2: it's just like it's half the distance from the worst
19:47
Speaker 2: seat in the house to the worst seat in the
19:49
Speaker 2: house elsewhere. They cut it in half. And they and
19:52
Speaker 2: they showed this this the way they designed it. It
19:54
Speaker 2: was so cool. And then oh, here we go. We
19:58
Speaker 2: got our Penn State trolling here. Wait till you hear
20:02
Speaker 2: what I got to say about James Franklin tonight, Penn
20:04
Speaker 2: State troll. So we've got going to Northwestern. Their stadium.
20:10
Speaker 2: They got the new facilities that are built looking out
20:12
Speaker 2: on Lake Michigan. So that's an awesome landing spot for
20:15
Speaker 2: our Jday. And of course he's got chipped there, but
20:19
Speaker 2: he's also got a teammate that's a big time recruit,
20:22
Speaker 2: and that's Jordan Karhoff. Jordan Carhoff is the number ten
20:27
Speaker 2: tight end in the country and he is an awesome
20:31
Speaker 2: tight end. And as we look through on three, they
20:35
Speaker 2: just did one of their big surveys. Well, they'll talk
20:38
Speaker 2: to a bunch of coaches, a bunch of gms and
20:41
Speaker 2: dial in every year what the price ranges are, what
20:44
Speaker 2: people are getting paid at each position. And I want
20:48
Speaker 2: to go through this real quick quarterback right now coming
20:50
Speaker 2: out of high school seven hundred and fifty thousand to
20:53
Speaker 2: one point five million, running back two hundred thousand to
20:57
Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty. They did bring up David gaber
21:00
Speaker 2: George and Common Spell, the two best running backs, and
21:02
Speaker 2: they said they're both going to go for seven figures.
21:05
Speaker 2: Pertinent for US wide receiver five hundred thousand to one million,
21:10
Speaker 2: offensive tackle three hundred thousand to one million, edge and
21:14
Speaker 2: defensive line half a million to one point seven million
21:20
Speaker 2: DBS five hundred thousand to one point two million. Not
21:24
Speaker 2: listed in there was tight ends, and I found that
21:29
Speaker 2: interesting because tight ends the market is shooting through the roof.
21:34
Speaker 2: And Jordan Karhoff, a top ten tight end in the country,
21:38
Speaker 2: who goes to Columbus to sales and catches passes from
21:43
Speaker 2: r J. Day is not apparently taking an official visit
21:47
Speaker 2: to Ohio State. He's got official visit schedule to Miami,
21:50
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, Texas, A and M and he says he's
21:54
Speaker 2: still open to more. But the recruiting analyst who wrote
21:58
Speaker 2: that article, and I can't credit him, I'm sorry, I
22:00
Speaker 2: forgot who it was, but he said in his opinion
22:04
Speaker 2: after talking to him, it's pretty much those three, which
22:07
Speaker 2: is wild to me. And I know that you know
22:10
Speaker 2: he's going to cost a lot, but I would have
22:12
Speaker 2: thought he would at least be coming to Ohio State
22:14
Speaker 2: for an official as every year. The way that in
22:19
Speaker 2: state recruiting is changing so much is just blowing my mind. Man,
22:23
Speaker 2: this is this is Ryan Day's son's teammate. He's not
22:28
Speaker 2: coming for an official am I out of line here?
22:30
Speaker 2: Does that not blow everybody's mind? That's crazy to me. Now,
22:34
Speaker 2: I know the budget for tight end is being squeezed,
22:36
Speaker 2: It's being squeezed like crazy. I've talked to you about
22:39
Speaker 2: this for now. I don't disagree with squeezing the tight
22:42
Speaker 2: end budget, particularly when your tight end coach is pulling
22:48
Speaker 2: guys like Nick Lauter with a squeezed tight end budget,
22:52
Speaker 2: and Nick Lauter comes in and he's like a dog,
22:56
Speaker 2: blowing everybody away. He might end up being one of
22:59
Speaker 2: the very best when he gets drafted out of this
23:02
Speaker 2: entire class. So if you can do that with Nick Lauter,
23:05
Speaker 2: you can do that again. But as we're looking at
23:07
Speaker 2: the guys that we've discussed on that tight end board,
23:10
Speaker 2: we've talked about the top tier, which we're not in on,
23:14
Speaker 2: and I don't think you should ever be in on
23:15
Speaker 2: that top tier and tight ends because there's so many
23:18
Speaker 2: guys that miss at that position. Then you drop down
23:21
Speaker 2: and now you're dropping down, okay, Jordan Carhoff, and then
23:24
Speaker 2: you're dropping down to like the next tier under that,
23:28
Speaker 2: And that's where we're at. That's where we're talking Sean
23:31
Speaker 2: Curry three star out of Virginia, Colton Johnson three star
23:35
Speaker 2: out of Tennessee. And these are the guys we've been
23:37
Speaker 2: talking about. And now I no longer believe that it's
23:41
Speaker 2: really going to work out for us at that level,
23:44
Speaker 2: as I think it's getting squeezed even harder and those
23:48
Speaker 2: guys' market value is going up even higher. Now, why
23:51
Speaker 2: is that? Why are tight ends all of a sudden booming. Well,
23:54
Speaker 2: we've seen the trend in college football to play more
23:56
Speaker 2: tight ends. We've seen in the NFL. We've seen the
24:00
Speaker 2: NFL over extending and drafting more tight ends than ever before,
24:04
Speaker 2: drafting them higher than they normally would have. We're seeing
24:07
Speaker 2: the same thing from college football down to the high
24:09
Speaker 2: school level, and it's just taking the market and shot
24:14
Speaker 2: it up, which screws up your expected budget if you're
24:18
Speaker 2: not playing it on paying that. And this is a
24:20
Speaker 2: class where Ohio State is going hard in a couple
24:23
Speaker 2: of areas, particularly really expensive ones like edge, like interior
24:28
Speaker 2: defensive line. So you got to squeeze at a couple
24:31
Speaker 2: positions and I think that tight end's getting squeezed here.
24:36
Speaker 2: I think tight end's getting squeezed. And that's a bummer
24:39
Speaker 2: because I really love Sean Curry. Not doesn't mean he
24:41
Speaker 2: won't come to Ohio State. Let's keep in mind Keenan
24:44
Speaker 2: Bailey now has coached in his short time at Ohio State.
24:47
Speaker 2: Cased over. Joe Royer just got drafted. Of course, Will
24:51
Speaker 2: kas Merrick Max Claire, and Patrick Gerr just signed on
24:55
Speaker 2: with an NFL team. That's five tight ends on Keenan's
24:59
Speaker 2: resume that are in the NFL that he's coached. Not
25:03
Speaker 2: only that, but he's gone out and plucked Will Kasmerk
25:07
Speaker 2: out of Ohio. That's a good eye. Turned that dude
25:09
Speaker 2: into the best blocker, a best tight end blocker in
25:11
Speaker 2: the country. Max Clayer kind of came to him. But
25:15
Speaker 2: when you got a resume like that, I think it
25:18
Speaker 2: makes you a prime candidate for NFL finishing school, which
25:22
Speaker 2: is what I've been talking about with this particular cycle
25:25
Speaker 2: of guys that came in as transfers in their money
25:28
Speaker 2: year to Ohio State. The right kind of guys, the
25:31
Speaker 2: guys that you want that understand, like, I got one
25:34
Speaker 2: year left, I want to go to a place is
25:36
Speaker 2: going to get me ready for the NFL. I'm going there.
25:39
Speaker 2: Forget forget about the money this year. It's about the
25:41
Speaker 2: money next year. And I think it's put Ohouse in
25:44
Speaker 2: a very advantageous situation and it's only going to multiply
25:48
Speaker 2: those NFL numbers, to be honest. So pretty good with
25:51
Speaker 2: that too. And it seems like the portal has been
25:53
Speaker 2: pretty pretty bountiful for the buck Eyes, particularly at this position.
25:59
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of guys I used to choose
26:00
Speaker 2: from a lot of options at tight end in the portal.
26:02
Speaker 2: Now will it stay that way? I don't know. I
26:05
Speaker 2: don't know, But right now I'm not feeling great about
26:09
Speaker 2: Sean Curry, and I once was because Texas A and
26:11
Speaker 2: M is coming, and Texas A and M is all
26:14
Speaker 2: in this particular cycle, They've been really so many guys.
26:19
Speaker 2: I'm all of a sudden seeing like Texas A and
26:21
Speaker 2: M's in on him, Texas A and M's in on him.
26:23
Speaker 2: Not Buckeyes, but just other dudes are on the country
26:27
Speaker 2: and it feels like they are just they're really going hard.
26:30
Speaker 2: So will they end up with the six foot seven
26:33
Speaker 2: Sean Curry, who I really wanted to be the tight
26:34
Speaker 2: end this class? Maybe so, maybe so, but we'll see.
26:40
Speaker 2: It does create a pinch at other spots when you're
26:42
Speaker 2: going really heavy after guys like David Jacobs, David Gabriel George.
26:46
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me the other day, where would I put
26:49
Speaker 2: the number value out of ten if I was to say, okay,
26:54
Speaker 2: one out of ten? How confident am I about David
26:57
Speaker 2: Gabriel George? And I find that question so much more
27:00
Speaker 2: interesting this day and age than I used to because
27:03
Speaker 2: really you're asking two questions, right, You're asking how do
27:07
Speaker 2: I feel that David Gabriel George feels, But maybe even
27:10
Speaker 2: more importantly is you're asking, what do you think both
27:15
Speaker 2: schools are gonna do? Right? Because Tennessee or Ohio State hypothetically,
27:20
Speaker 2: but this will never happen. Tennessee has the ability to
27:24
Speaker 2: end that recruitment. They have the ability to go to
27:28
Speaker 2: a certain amount that George can't say no to and
27:31
Speaker 2: Ohio State won't match. They have that ability, we know
27:33
Speaker 2: they do. So when you're talking about that recruitment and
27:38
Speaker 2: you're trying to put a confidence meter on it, this
27:41
Speaker 2: is me trying to figure out what's Tennessee gonna do?
27:44
Speaker 2: And it's a really interesting one because when we look
27:46
Speaker 2: at Tennessee and the guys recently that they've really really
27:49
Speaker 2: wanted and really coveted, well, we can go back. I
27:52
Speaker 2: just named three right now that they did not miss on,
27:56
Speaker 2: and that of course starts with David Sanders. David Sanders
28:00
Speaker 2: jor they beat Ohio State. We all remember that one.
28:03
Speaker 2: The following year, Faizon Brandon, five star quarterback, closest thing
28:07
Speaker 2: to Vince Young I've seen since Vince Young. They went
28:10
Speaker 2: and got him, no must, no fuss, beat the hell
28:12
Speaker 2: out of everybody on that one, locked it down and
28:15
Speaker 2: TK keys wide receiver, five star wide receiver. They did
28:18
Speaker 2: the same thing with him, beat LSU for him. And
28:22
Speaker 2: now last year they were up against Michigan for savieon Hyder,
28:26
Speaker 2: and I felt they did what they should have done
28:30
Speaker 2: last year. If I'm Tennessee or a Tennessee fan, let
28:33
Speaker 2: Michigan win for Sabean Hyder because you got David Gabriel
28:38
Speaker 2: George in State, He's just as good. And who would
28:42
Speaker 2: you rather go up against in a bidding war, Michigan,
28:45
Speaker 2: who we've seen will go really high, or Ohio State,
28:49
Speaker 2: who you just beat him for David Sanders. You think
28:52
Speaker 2: you could probably beat him again, And that's what they're
28:55
Speaker 2: chose to do. They chose to hold off and go
28:57
Speaker 2: for DGG. But I think they've underestimated how much Ohio
29:02
Speaker 2: State has invested in DGG, which is essentially two classes
29:07
Speaker 2: two classes are invested in DGG. They also pulled out
29:11
Speaker 2: a Sabine Heider last year. They also stopped going after
29:14
Speaker 2: Derek Cooper last year, the backs that were on the
29:16
Speaker 2: top of their board because it was all for DGG.
29:19
Speaker 2: They get the local kid in favor, a Key who
29:22
Speaker 2: did fantastic this spring. No shade on him, but he's
29:27
Speaker 2: got a couple more years to develop before he can
29:29
Speaker 2: be counted on. Where David Gabriel George will come in
29:32
Speaker 2: at two twenty five probably and be ready immediately, and
29:38
Speaker 2: that warrants more pay as a freshman. Obviously, he's gonna
29:41
Speaker 2: get a lot more money. And Ohio State has two
29:44
Speaker 2: classes tied up in this, which means they're in the
29:47
Speaker 2: situation where they're just not gonna miss. I don't think
29:50
Speaker 2: they're gonna miss here, and I think that they will
29:54
Speaker 2: go pretty far to make sure that doesn't happen, just
29:57
Speaker 2: like they did, which everybody seems to forget because as
30:00
Speaker 2: it happened so quick with DJ Jacobs, they went hard
30:04
Speaker 2: and fast after DJ and they locked that down. They
30:07
Speaker 2: were the Miami in that recruitment. So they're getting to
30:10
Speaker 2: the point where they're saying to themselves, look, if we
30:12
Speaker 2: gotta win one, we're gonna go win it. And if
30:15
Speaker 2: we believe in that guy. I don't think there's a
30:17
Speaker 2: guy they believe in more or have believed in more
30:20
Speaker 2: in a couple of years than David Gabriel George, so
30:22
Speaker 2: my confidence meter. I also think, by the way, let's
30:26
Speaker 2: talk about the thing I guess that matters most. David
30:28
Speaker 2: Gabriel George likes Ohio State better. I think he wants
30:30
Speaker 2: to be at Ohio State more. There's no loyalty towards
30:33
Speaker 2: Tennessee because his school's in Tennessee. He goes to the
30:36
Speaker 2: Baylor School, which is a boarding school. It's not like
30:38
Speaker 2: he's loyal to the soil. Those kids go to those boarding
30:41
Speaker 2: schools and that's where they live. Right He's from Canada.
30:44
Speaker 2: We're closer to Canada. All signs point to Ohio State,
30:49
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go seven point five on the confidence meter.
30:52
Speaker 2: As we sit here today on five eleven. The only
30:55
Speaker 2: reason I remember the date is because of Ohio State's
30:57
Speaker 2: post five eleven. They made us way twenty four hours
31:01
Speaker 2: to show us those black uniforms, and we do got
31:03
Speaker 2: a super chet as APC says, thank you so much
31:06
Speaker 2: for the superjet, buddy. What do you think of the
31:08
Speaker 2: black uniform? Straight up, I've not always been a fan
31:13
Speaker 2: of black uniforms for everyone. As far as the Ohio
31:16
Speaker 2: State original black uniform, I liked it, but I wasn't
31:19
Speaker 2: crazy about it. I think more so, what I liked
31:22
Speaker 2: is that everybody else seemed to like it so much.
31:25
Speaker 2: Players loved it, fans loved it, and to me, it
31:30
Speaker 2: was a traditional enough looking uniform and it fit. It
31:33
Speaker 2: fit Ohio State. So to me it was like, all right,
31:35
Speaker 2: this is cool. But personally it wasn't really my taste.
31:40
Speaker 2: But this particular uniform with the sleeves, with the gold
31:46
Speaker 2: or the silver flex and the helmet, it just looks
31:49
Speaker 2: right to me. I love it. I wouldn't care if
31:51
Speaker 2: they wore it four times next year, Like I think
31:53
Speaker 2: it's awesome. So I feel great about it. I'll feel
31:56
Speaker 2: even better when we get the official announcement. We're getting
32:00
Speaker 2: the sleeves on the other the home and away jersey,
32:03
Speaker 2: so that'll be great. I wanted to talk a little
32:07
Speaker 2: bit more about recruiting in a broader sense. When we
32:10
Speaker 2: talk about the Big ten in the SEC, we talk
32:14
Speaker 2: about often how the Big ten is gaining more talent
32:18
Speaker 2: on the SEC, closing the gap. We've seen it in
32:21
Speaker 2: the draft with the Big ten leading the first round,
32:25
Speaker 2: the SEC winning the overall count, and we saw that
32:30
Speaker 2: overall count shrink in and it opened up a little
32:33
Speaker 2: bit more this year, but leveling the playing field in
32:37
Speaker 2: terms of the transfer portal, etc. The talent between the
32:40
Speaker 2: conference is just getting more close. But to be honest,
32:43
Speaker 2: when we look at the numbers, the SEC has held
32:47
Speaker 2: still a substantial lead. Just if we're going back the
32:50
Speaker 2: last couple of years, let's say twenty twenty four, how
32:54
Speaker 2: many classes did the SEC and the Big Ten each
32:58
Speaker 2: have that finished in the top twenty five of recruiting.
33:02
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, the SEC had thirteen and the
33:05
Speaker 2: Big Ten had seven. How About in the twenty twenty
33:08
Speaker 2: four portal, the SEC had nine, the Big Ten had six.
33:13
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five the SEC they had twelve, the
33:18
Speaker 2: Big Ten had eight, And in twenty twenty six, the
33:22
Speaker 2: SEC had eleven the Big Ten had six. So it's
33:28
Speaker 2: not like we've seen those close yet. Right in that
33:33
Speaker 2: same time, the ACC is kind of hovered around three
33:36
Speaker 2: or four, the Big twelve one or two or maybe
33:40
Speaker 2: three sometimes, and then of course Notre Dames in there.
33:43
Speaker 2: But the SEC is still substantially getting many more teams
33:48
Speaker 2: in that top twenty five than the Big Ten is.
33:51
Speaker 2: And as far as the transfer portal, I don't really
33:55
Speaker 2: put a ton of credence into that, because I don't
33:57
Speaker 2: put a ton of credence into transfer portal rankings because
34:00
Speaker 2: services don't have a big market to sell those rankings,
34:04
Speaker 2: and it's a very small period, so they go about
34:06
Speaker 2: it in a very lazy fashion. So I don't put
34:09
Speaker 2: a ton of merit into who finishes wearing the portal market,
34:11
Speaker 2: but the recruiting the recruiting classes I do. But what
34:15
Speaker 2: we are seeing this year is starting off quite a
34:18
Speaker 2: bit different, as we are seeing a huge surge in
34:23
Speaker 2: this Big ten recruiting class of twenty twenty seven, and
34:26
Speaker 2: this is the first year we've seen it look like
34:29
Speaker 2: it looks right now also a year that the Big ten,
34:33
Speaker 2: the money that they're getting right now from the TV
34:35
Speaker 2: deal looks very very substantial. And when we look at
34:38
Speaker 2: this class right now, the Big ten currently has eight
34:42
Speaker 2: of the top sixteen spots, in ten of the top
34:45
Speaker 2: twenty five ten. Now, going back to twenty twenty two,
34:50
Speaker 2: here's how many Big ten teams we're in the top
34:53
Speaker 2: twenty five of the recruiting rankings six six, six, seven, five,
34:58
Speaker 2: and this year they've got ten right now, and currently
35:02
Speaker 2: number eleven is sitting at number twenty six that's the
35:05
Speaker 2: boys in Blue. They're just hanging outside that top twenty five.
35:08
Speaker 2: That's a huge change, huge change in the rankings. We've
35:13
Speaker 2: got Oklahoma number one, Texas A and m number two,
35:16
Speaker 2: so a couple sec teams at the top, and then
35:19
Speaker 2: three and four we've got USC and UCLA. UCLA number
35:24
Speaker 2: four in the country. But it's even it's even better
35:29
Speaker 2: than that. For UCLA. This is not just they load
35:32
Speaker 2: up on a bunch of recruits. They've got I believe
35:34
Speaker 2: nine Blue Chippers and eight four stars or eight three stars,
35:39
Speaker 2: so they're over a fifty percent blue chip ratio. Sitting
35:43
Speaker 2: at fourth in the country. They have doubled their nil expenditure,
35:50
Speaker 2: promised that to Bob Chesney, and he is bringing the
35:53
Speaker 2: excitement and things are changing fast. At number five, John
35:57
Speaker 2: Summer all in Florida, Number six Oregon that's big ten.
36:01
Speaker 2: Number three, number seven Notre Dame, and they're about to
36:04
Speaker 2: go on an absolute terror. Number eight Matt Campbell and
36:07
Speaker 2: Penn State. Now, remember what I said about UCLA sitting
36:11
Speaker 2: at fourth. UCLA sitting at fourth has nine four stars,
36:19
Speaker 2: eight three stars. Matt Campbell and Penn State, on the
36:22
Speaker 2: other hand, with fifteen commitments has four four stars and
36:27
Speaker 2: eleven three stars. Matt Campbell in his introductory press conference
36:33
Speaker 2: at Penn State, one of the first things he said was,
36:36
Speaker 2: it's not about stars on signing day. And I'm sitting
36:39
Speaker 2: here thinking, and I want to be clear. Matt Campbell
36:41
Speaker 2: is a coach that I love. I think he's special.
36:44
Speaker 2: I wanted Ohio State to talk to him when urban
36:48
Speaker 2: Meyer stepped down. I obviously feel much stronger about that
36:51
Speaker 2: years and years later, and I felt Penn State on
36:53
Speaker 2: an absolute steal. Did not want him to go there,
36:56
Speaker 2: but thought he would take the job. And I think
36:58
Speaker 2: he fits in great there. But he's not at Iowa
37:02
Speaker 2: State anymore. And if I'm a Penn State fan, I
37:04
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that attitude for him. He doesn't
37:06
Speaker 2: need to take three stars and develop them and hope
37:10
Speaker 2: to find gems here. He can just get the best
37:12
Speaker 2: players in Pennsylvania for one of which, out of the
37:15
Speaker 2: top ten guys in Pennsylvania, he's lost one to Georgia,
37:19
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan. He's lost four of the
37:24
Speaker 2: top ten, three of the top five Florida. And he's
37:28
Speaker 2: pulling a bunch of three stars. What are you doing.
37:31
Speaker 2: I'd be pretty furious if I was you, Penn State
37:33
Speaker 2: guy in the comments there, number nine, We've got Miami,
37:38
Speaker 2: number ten, Ohio State, so the Buck guy is sitting
37:41
Speaker 2: at number ten. Nice spot to be right now. Eleven.
37:45
Speaker 2: How about Kentucky and will Stein at eleven? Will Stein
37:49
Speaker 2: at eleven and Tosh Lapoi and cal also in the
37:53
Speaker 2: top twenty five, which means Dan Lanning loses his offensive
37:56
Speaker 2: coordinator and defensive coordinator. They go to Kentucky and cal
38:00
Speaker 2: Well both the recruiting inside the top twenty five right now,
38:03
Speaker 2: Pretty impressive stuff. Number twelve, Texas Tech, number thirteen, Washington.
38:09
Speaker 2: There's another one of our big ten teams at number thirteen,
38:12
Speaker 2: Number fourteen Louisville gimme back Menor Lewis, number fifteen Minnesota,
38:18
Speaker 2: Minnesota and PJ. Fleck at number fifteen and Luke Ficklan
38:21
Speaker 2: Wisconsin at number sixteen. And Luke also with the big
38:26
Speaker 2: cash infusion of at Wisconsin. What's he going to be
38:28
Speaker 2: able to do with it? Number seventeen Texas, Texas is
38:32
Speaker 2: taking it easy here. Number eighteen, Virginia Tech nineteen, Cal twenty,
38:37
Speaker 2: Syracuse twenty one, Old Biss twenty two Nebraska, twenty three Iowa,
38:42
Speaker 2: twenty four West Virginia, and twenty five Missou Ten Big
38:47
Speaker 2: ten teams, And the weirdest part here, I don't know
38:51
Speaker 2: if you caught it when I was going through that,
38:55
Speaker 2: the top four Big ten teams that I listed to
38:58
Speaker 2: you are USC, UCLA, Oregon. In Washington, the four West
39:07
Speaker 2: Coast Big ten teams are beating the traditional Big ten
39:13
Speaker 2: up and down the field here. This is insane, all
39:16
Speaker 2: four of them. All four of them are beating everybody else.
39:21
Speaker 2: UCLA in Washington, I mean, the West Coast is representing
39:26
Speaker 2: here and all these you know, Oregon, Yeah, they were
39:31
Speaker 2: a great recruiter when these four teams first came in,
39:34
Speaker 2: but USC wasn't USC was laying eggs. USC was like
39:38
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen when they came in. Washington was consistently like
39:42
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty nine, even under Kaylin de Boor when
39:44
Speaker 2: they made it to the National Championship Game, they had
39:47
Speaker 2: like twenty eighth, twenty ninth in the country. And UCLA,
39:50
Speaker 2: forget about it. Now these guys are all in the
39:54
Speaker 2: top fifteen and they are the h They're just crushing everybody.
39:59
Speaker 2: So really interesting stuff there, and I think that We're
40:04
Speaker 2: gonna see some of these SEC team surges. You've got Georgia, Alabama, LSU.
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Speaker 2: We're all outside the top twenty five still, so they'll
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Speaker 2: definitely surge. But as far as the traditional Midwest teams,
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Speaker 2: looking at Penn State, if this is the way that
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Speaker 2: Matt Campbell's going to recruit, Penn State's certainly taking a
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Speaker 2: step back. Michigan underwitting him. He has the ability to
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Speaker 2: put together some top tier classes, but how's he going
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Speaker 2: to go about it? I don't know yet. Right they're
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Speaker 2: sitting at number twenty six right now, so we certainly
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Speaker 2: haven't seen what his attitude is. But when we look
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Speaker 2: around and we look at what will Stein's doing at Kentucky,
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Speaker 2: we look at what Tosh Lapoi is doing at cal
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Speaker 2: and we see what John Sumrall's doing at Florida, like
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Speaker 2: we see what these young aggressive coaches are doing Chesney
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Speaker 2: at UCLA. And then you look at old Man Whittingham, right,
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Speaker 2: old Man Whittingham at number twenty six. Why isn't Michigan
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Speaker 2: pounding it like that? If I was a Michigan or
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Speaker 2: Penn State fan right now looking at the rest of
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Speaker 2: the Big ten, I would be not only salty, but
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Speaker 2: a little concern, particularly if I was a boy in blue,
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Speaker 2: which I'm not and thankful for anyway. I appreciate you guys.
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Speaker 2: I apologize. My voice is really cutting out on me here,
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Speaker 2: so we're gonna wrap this guy up tonight, but I
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Speaker 2: will talk to you soon. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: joining us here at Buck out of prime time, and
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Speaker 2: we'll see you on Thursday. Have a great night.