Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Chaplain Leadership, Bioethics, and Inclusive Care with Rev. Inetta A. Reddell
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- 0:01Every year, Becker's annual meeting brings health care
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- 0:38This is Scott Becker with the Becker's Health
- 0:41Care Podcast.
- 0:42We are thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:43a very special guest. We're joined today by
- 0:47someone who's had this fascinating career,
- 0:50at the intersection of pastoral care and health
- 0:53care and more. We're joined by reverend Inetta
- 0:56Riddell,
- 0:57and reverend Riddell
- 0:59serves as the pastoral care coordinator
- 1:02at Charterhouse Mayo Clinic Retirement Living.
- 1:05Another thing before we get started that you
- 1:08should know about reverend Riddell
- 1:11is she was the first woman of color
- 1:14to serve as the president
- 1:16of the Association of Professional Chaplains
- 1:18in its eighty year plus history when she
- 1:21started to serve as president.
- 1:24And and she'll talk to us today about
- 1:26some of the challenges
- 1:27she's faced,
- 1:29what the APC does,
- 1:30some advice for emerging leaders, and and a
- 1:33lot more.
- 1:34Reverend Riddell, can you take a moment to
- 1:36introduce yourself?
- 1:38Yes. My name is
- 1:40Reverend Aynetta
- 1:41Angelilio Riddell.
- 1:43I am currently
- 1:46the
- 1:47pastoral
- 1:48coordinator
- 1:49for
- 1:50Charterhouse
- 1:51at Mayo Clinic's
- 1:53Retirement
- 1:54Living,
- 1:56and I am the former president
- 2:00of APC.
- 2:02And I want to state upfront that my
- 2:05views are not those of my employers
- 2:08or APC,
- 2:09but solely
- 2:11my own.
- 2:13Reverend Rodell,
- 2:14thank you again for joining us. Can you
- 2:16take a moment to tell us about
- 2:19what motivated you to take a leadership role
- 2:21within the Association of Professional Chaplains,
- 2:24and how has your background shaped your approach
- 2:27and thoughts about leadership?
- 2:30What motivated me to pursue leadership
- 2:33within my role of APC and how it
- 2:36has
- 2:37shaped my background,
- 2:40was stemmed from a desire to amplify
- 2:44diverse voices and perspectives
- 2:47within our organization.
- 2:49You know, growing up
- 2:50as a woman of color, I faced challenges
- 2:54that
- 2:54I'm sure many
- 2:56others can relate to,
- 2:58which instilled
- 3:00in me a sense of resilience
- 3:02and
- 3:03a commitment
- 3:04to inclusivity.
- 3:06I believe that
- 3:08leadership is not just about
- 3:11guiding others, but also
- 3:13about
- 3:15creating an environment
- 3:16where
- 3:17everyone
- 3:18feels valued and heard.
- 3:21You know, by
- 3:23drawing on my experiences,
- 3:25I aim to foster a culture
- 3:28of collaboration
- 3:30and innovation,
- 3:32ensuring that
- 3:33we address
- 3:35all the needs of our members and the
- 3:37communities that we serve.
- 3:40As I reflect, especially thinking through this month,
- 3:43being that it's Black History Month, I can't
- 3:47help but to think that I was also
- 3:50driven by a sense of legacy and purpose,
- 3:54specifically
- 3:55influenced by the history of the civil rights
- 3:58movement
- 4:00and the resilience of those who came before
- 4:02me. You know, I once
- 4:04went to a joint
- 4:05conference,
- 4:07thrown by ACPE
- 4:09and,
- 4:10REM
- 4:11and APC.
- 4:13I
- 4:14kinda touched on this,
- 4:16during my presidential
- 4:18speak speech during the APC conference,
- 4:22where I saw so many people that looked
- 4:25like me,
- 4:26and I was hooked from the word go.
- 4:29They were my heroes.
- 4:31The collective
- 4:32wisdom
- 4:33in that room was so inspect inspirational.
- 4:37It encouraged me to pursue leadership,
- 4:41foster
- 4:42unity, and empathy across racial
- 4:45and cultural boundaries.
- 4:48My background in bioethics,
- 4:50legal studies, and theology
- 4:52provides, I think,
- 4:54a multidisciplinary
- 4:56lens
- 4:57that emphasizes
- 4:59the sanctity of human rights
- 5:02and spirit.
- 5:03And
- 5:04for me,
- 5:05I think I approach leadership with an open
- 5:08heart acknowledging
- 5:10diverse perspectives when
- 5:12they conflict with my own.
- 5:16Thank you. And could you take a moment?
- 5:18Tell us a little bit about the Association
- 5:21of Professional Chaplains.
- 5:22Tell us a bit about that, and and
- 5:24then I wanna ask you a little bit
- 5:26about
- 5:27a
- 5:27a specific
- 5:29challenge
- 5:30that you faced during your tenure or during
- 5:32being a chaplain
- 5:34and how you overcame
- 5:35that
- 5:36challenge. But tell us a bit about the
- 5:38APC, the Association of Professional Chaplains, because because
- 5:41many people in the health care podcast may
- 5:43not be as familiar.
- 5:46So the Association
- 5:48of Professional Chaplains is an organization
- 5:52that supports
- 5:54chaplains
- 5:55in various sectors
- 5:57that comes from various
- 6:00denominations,
- 6:01people from
- 6:04various sectors,
- 6:05and we certify
- 6:08chaplains
- 6:09once they get their training from various,
- 6:13organization.
- 6:15And one of the significant
- 6:17challenges that I encountered
- 6:20was navigating
- 6:22the complexities
- 6:23of change management
- 6:25while implementing new initiatives
- 6:28aimed
- 6:29at increasing diversity
- 6:31within our organization.
- 6:34Resistance
- 6:35often arises
- 6:37when people feel threatened
- 6:39by change.
- 6:40And to overcome this,
- 6:42I prioritize
- 6:44transparent communication,
- 6:47actively seeking
- 6:49input from stakeholders
- 6:51at all levels. APC has strategic partners,
- 6:55being the Association
- 6:57of Jewish Chaplains,
- 6:59National Association of Catholic Chaplains, the Canadian Chaplains,
- 7:04etcetera.
- 7:06And
- 7:07I held open forums and
- 7:10discussed concerns and shared data that
- 7:14highlighted
- 7:16the benefits of diversity.
- 7:18You know, by building trust and demonstrating
- 7:21the positive
- 7:23impacts of
- 7:24these initiatives,
- 7:25we were able to move forward collaboratively,
- 7:29resulting in a more
- 7:32inclusive APC that reflects the communities that we
- 7:36serve,
- 7:37cultural biases,
- 7:39and direct
- 7:41objections
- 7:42from individuals who don't support
- 7:45women,
- 7:46especially
- 7:47women of color
- 7:49in leadership roles,
- 7:52encountered
- 7:53a trend of
- 7:55what I experienced
- 7:57of discounting,
- 7:59dismissive,
- 8:01and demeaning decorum
- 8:03in professional environments
- 8:06where
- 8:07colleagues
- 8:08often
- 8:08lack basic
- 8:10acknowledgment of one another.
- 8:13How I overcame
- 8:14this
- 8:15rudeness
- 8:16by
- 8:17was by focusing
- 8:19on radical
- 8:21self care
- 8:22and
- 8:23creative
- 8:24expression.
- 8:26And
- 8:27it be the question for me,
- 8:30who takes care
- 8:34of the chaplain
- 8:36and
- 8:37the educator
- 8:39as I was
- 8:41navigating
- 8:42my own
- 8:43personal
- 8:46issues.
- 8:47And so I turned
- 8:49to music,
- 8:50fashion, and dance
- 8:52because that was my outlet.
- 8:55And to maintain my mental health and resilience,
- 8:59I
- 9:01leaned and countered
- 9:02professional
- 9:04dismissiveness
- 9:05by advocating dignity,
- 9:08respect,
- 9:09and sensibility,
- 9:11refusing to let other biases
- 9:13diminish
- 9:14my personal narrative.
- 9:16And one thing that I will say about
- 9:19APC
- 9:20is that there are some fine
- 9:23individuals within that organization.
- 9:27And what makes,
- 9:29APC so unique is that it is a
- 9:34very
- 9:36diverse,
- 9:38organization,
- 9:39meaning
- 9:40that it is interfaith.
- 9:42And that and that's absolutely fantastic. I I
- 9:45I love that that it's interfaith. That's such
- 9:47an important thing today to have these interfaith
- 9:49dialogues.
- 9:50So important, so incredible what you do.
- 9:53Reverend, what advice would you give to aspiring
- 9:56leaders,
- 9:57particularly women of color who are trying to
- 9:59carve out their paths
- 10:01in in in in fields? But what advice
- 10:04do you give to emerging leaders?
- 10:06My advice
- 10:07to aspiring leaders, especially women of color, is
- 10:10to embrace your unique identity and perspectives
- 10:15as strengths rather
- 10:17than obstacles,
- 10:18you know, to make sure
- 10:20you always, always, always have authentic presence.
- 10:25You know, if you are going to be
- 10:28an emerging leader, you have to fully be
- 10:30present and not judgmental,
- 10:34rejecting
- 10:35the modern tendency to use technology as a
- 10:38shield
- 10:39from
- 10:40genuine human interaction.
- 10:43Surround yourself with mentors and
- 10:46allies who are going to uplift you and
- 10:49provide guidance.
- 10:51It's essential
- 10:52to cultivate
- 10:53a strong network and seek opportunities
- 10:57for professional development.
- 10:59I encourage
- 11:00aspiring
- 11:01leaders to roll their sleeves up and walk
- 11:05alongside people in both joy and sorrow,
- 11:09Using obstacles as opportunity
- 11:12to offer support rather than retreating from conflict.
- 11:16Use every opportunity
- 11:18to build community
- 11:20when you can.
- 11:22That's where
- 11:23learning, I think, is fostered. I cannot emphasize
- 11:27the importance of solidarity
- 11:29using platforms like social media
- 11:32to inspire others
- 11:34and bolster a sense of shared journey.
- 11:38Additionally,
- 11:39don't shy away from speaking up and advocating
- 11:43for yourself.
- 11:44Your voice matters and can pave the way
- 11:47for others.
- 11:49Do not allow your unique stories
- 11:52or identities to be devalued
- 11:55by others. And finally,
- 11:57remember that leadership
- 11:59is a journey
- 12:00filled with learning
- 12:02experiences.
- 12:04Be open to feedback,
- 12:06adapt when necessary,
- 12:08and stay true to your values as you
- 12:10navigate your path. Your contributions
- 12:13are invaluable,
- 12:14and the world needs your leadership now more
- 12:17than ever.
- 12:19Thank you. And how do you envision the
- 12:21leadership
- 12:21going forward
- 12:23and and of the Association of Professional Chaplains
- 12:26and and
- 12:27where can that have impact?
- 12:29Well,
- 12:31I feel that a future where technology is
- 12:33not used as a shield to hide behind,
- 12:37but where leaders prioritize
- 12:40genuine human connection,
- 12:42Scott, is our future
- 12:45leaders must prepare by cultivating space
- 12:50in their ministries for others,
- 12:53focusing
- 12:53on active listening and the rejection
- 12:57of evasive
- 12:58or
- 12:59complacent
- 13:00professional cultures.
- 13:02Drawing from my bioethical
- 13:04background, I view the future of chaplaincy
- 13:07as a noble calling
- 13:09that must integrate empathy
- 13:11with
- 13:12ethical theories to make a tangible impact on
- 13:16lives.
- 13:18Reverend, it is such a pleasure to visit
- 13:20with you today on the Becker's Healthcare podcast.
- 13:23Just a remarkable background
- 13:25and and and leadership career.
- 13:28Thank you so much for taking the time
- 13:29to visit with us today.
- 13:31And thank you so much for having me.