Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug S5:E8 [January 6, 2022 Happy New Year]
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- 0:00SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you apart by MojerMultimedia.com.
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- 0:12SPEAKER_02: Like we say and say it all of Christmas without fruit cake.
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- 0:21SPEAKER_03: Yo yo next is the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
- 0:26SPEAKER_02: Why don't you get down to the basement with your little friend?
- 0:34SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
- 0:37SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien.
- 0:38SPEAKER_06: I'm the other guy.
- 0:40SPEAKER_06: The other guy the other guy won't be around to talk to our kids.
- 0:45SPEAKER_03: He won't understand now the way that I did.
- 0:51SPEAKER_06: Oh you and I just need to try again.
- 0:56SPEAKER_06: Name the band.
- 0:57SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 0:57SPEAKER_06: I have no idea.
- 0:58SPEAKER_06: A little river band.
- 0:59SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 0:59SPEAKER_06: The other guy.
- 1:01SPEAKER_04: I didn't know that was an actual song.
- 1:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:03SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 1:03SPEAKER_06: They're based out of New Zealand, I think.
- 1:06SPEAKER_06: Ah.
- 1:07SPEAKER_04: The land of Mordor.
- 1:08SPEAKER_06: And when it w when I was Middle Earth.
- 1:10SPEAKER_06: When I was a kid, um one of my friends, uh I was friends with lots of guys up on base housing when the Air Force Base was here.
- 1:18SPEAKER_04: So um uh that Air Force Base or the big Air Force Base?
- 1:23SPEAKER_06: When Loring was here, base housing housed soldiers from Loring.
- 1:29SPEAKER_04: That's impossible because that's Air Force.
- 1:32SPEAKER_04: Loring is Air Force.
- 1:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're not soldiers.
- 1:36SPEAKER_05: Okay, I was wondering where you were going with.
- 1:38SPEAKER_04: They're airmen, not soldiers.
- 1:40SPEAKER_04: Oh okay.
- 1:41SPEAKER_04: That's like when people call Marines soldiers.
- 1:43SPEAKER_04: You're like, you're gonna get punched in the face for that.
- 1:46SPEAKER_06: So Marines aren't soldiers?
- 1:47SPEAKER_06: No.
- 1:48SPEAKER_04: We're Marines.
- 1:50SPEAKER_04: It's in the name.
- 1:51SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:52SPEAKER_04: So soldiers are army, sailors are navy, airborne are Air Force, Marines are Marines.
- 2:00SPEAKER_06: Coast Guards are a loser.
- 2:01SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but isn't Airmen a rank?
- 2:02SPEAKER_04: No.
- 2:03SPEAKER_06: In the Air Force?
- 2:04SPEAKER_04: Well, it is, but they're still airmen.
- 2:06SPEAKER_04: Oh.
- 2:07SPEAKER_06: Well, you learn something new every day.
- 2:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see.
- 2:10SPEAKER_06: I did not mean to offend.
- 2:12SPEAKER_04: You're not offending me.
- 2:13SPEAKER_04: I'm not in the Air Force.
- 2:13SPEAKER_06: Anyway, so I had so I had these friends that lived up on base housing, and uh uh this was when I was first starting into music, and I would like really little kids, like elementary school.
- 2:23SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 2:24SPEAKER_06: And I used to go up there and hang out with them.
- 2:25SPEAKER_06: Kenny Cameron and Chris Tilley and Greg Griffin, and we're like, let's let's start a band.
- 2:31SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, that sounds none of us played any instruments or had any sure.
- 2:34SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 2:34SPEAKER_06: Let's start a band, yeah.
- 2:35SPEAKER_06: What should we call it?
- 2:36SPEAKER_06: That's the important part.
- 2:37SPEAKER_06: How about the big river band?
- 2:40SPEAKER_06: Nice.
- 2:41SPEAKER_06: Because Kenny's mom used to listen to the little river band, but we'd be the big river band.
- 2:45SPEAKER_04: Worked for me?
- 2:46SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, it didn't work.
- 2:47SPEAKER_04: That's how all the best bands get started.
- 2:49SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 2:50unknown: Right.
- 2:51SPEAKER_06: Um, so what was I gonna say?
- 2:53SPEAKER_06: Oh, so season five, episode eight.
- 2:55SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 2:56SPEAKER_04: Our first uh podcast of 2022.
- 3:00SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:00SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 3:01SPEAKER_06: That was lost on me just for a second.
- 3:03SPEAKER_06: This is the first one of 2022.
- 3:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 3:06SPEAKER_06: Um so let's see, what has happened in the past week?
- 3:10SPEAKER_06: How was your new year's?
- 3:11SPEAKER_06: You went to bed, probably.
- 3:12SPEAKER_06: I I actually actually know you and I got together.
- 3:15SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we were we got together with Shane.
- 3:16SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 3:17SPEAKER_04: And uh played some songs.
- 3:18SPEAKER_04: Which was fun.
- 3:19SPEAKER_04: And talked a lot.
- 3:21SPEAKER_04: And you tried scotch?
- 3:22SPEAKER_04: Tried a new kind of scotch, yep.
- 3:24SPEAKER_06: I would not because it's it smelled like um glue.
- 3:28SPEAKER_04: Well, it's like it's a it's a cross between um I don't know how to it's hard to say.
- 3:35SPEAKER_04: It's like if you took barbecue chicken and you melted it down and you threw some moxie in there, that's lagolavulin.
- 3:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, really.
- 3:49SPEAKER_04: What's it called?
- 3:50SPEAKER_04: Lagalvooulin.
- 3:52SPEAKER_04: Logavulin.
- 3:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 3:54SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 3:54SPEAKER_06: So Shane brought the scotch, and uh I I didn't uh I didn't take the dare.
- 3:59SPEAKER_06: I didn't I didn't try it.
- 3:59SPEAKER_06: I smelled it.
- 4:00SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's i it's not for the faint of heart.
- 4:02SPEAKER_04: It's an acquired taste.
- 4:03SPEAKER_06: It is uh anyway, so we did that.
- 4:06SPEAKER_06: We played some uh some of our songs.
- 4:08SPEAKER_06: We played some cover songs that we're gonna be doing at the end of the month at uh Big Gig here uh in Star City.
- 4:15SPEAKER_06: Uh not Star City syndicate, but in the Star City in the Star City in Prescott.
- 4:19SPEAKER_06: That's right.
- 4:20SPEAKER_06: Comic Crossing is playing.
- 4:22SPEAKER_04: Uh which we really since in two years at least.
- 4:26SPEAKER_04: 2019.
- 4:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 4:27SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 4:27SPEAKER_06: So it should be cool.
- 4:29SPEAKER_04: That'd be fun.
- 4:30SPEAKER_06: Um so my new year's, yeah.
- 4:32SPEAKER_06: So so I was down there with you, and then I came home, and all of my kids were still awake.
- 4:36SPEAKER_04: Ah, yeah.
- 4:37SPEAKER_06: Even my seven-year-old.
- 4:38SPEAKER_06: And uh she was bouncing off the walls and and did somebody give her sugar?
- 4:42SPEAKER_06: My wife, nope.
- 4:43SPEAKER_06: Well, I don't know, actually, I wasn't here, but my wife was sleeping.
- 4:47SPEAKER_06: All the kids were up, my wife was asleep.
- 4:50SPEAKER_06: And uh she wasn't asleep for long though, because at the stroke of midnight they had these.
- 4:55SPEAKER_06: She was in the dollar store or something uh uh earlier that day, and she bought these what she thought were the like um the things you blow in the and they kind of roll out.
- 5:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, but they were actually and she she she didn't know.
- 5:10SPEAKER_06: So uh uh at the stroke of midnight, all of them simultaneously.
- 5:16SPEAKER_06: I went in and I said, uh Happy New Year, dear.
- 5:18SPEAKER_06: Gave her a big kiss, and she's like Yeah.
- 5:25SPEAKER_06: And then the the rest of the weekend everybody was in a bad mood because they were so tired.
- 5:29SPEAKER_04: So that's yeah.
- 5:32SPEAKER_04: No, that's all right that's the way it works.
- 5:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 5:35SPEAKER_06: I still haven't caught up, but that's okay.
- 5:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 5:37SPEAKER_06: Uh it's harder to get caught up as uh as you as you get older.
- 5:40SPEAKER_04: It is.
- 5:41SPEAKER_06: It is a lot harder.
- 5:42SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 5:42SPEAKER_04: I was I was saying today that you know I missed nap time as a kid.
- 5:46unknown: Oh yeah.
- 5:47SPEAKER_04: Remember when you you were told to take a nap and you were like, I don't want to take it up, I don't want to play.
- 5:52SPEAKER_04: Now you're like, I wish I'd bake some of that sleep.
- 5:55SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 5:55SPEAKER_06: I really I'll be at work and I'll be like, I really would like to take a nap right now.
- 5:59SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 6:00SPEAKER_04: Well, before I got treated for my sleep apnea, I used to nap at work all the time.
- 6:04SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 6:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 6:05SPEAKER_04: Not not not not intentionally.
- 6:08SPEAKER_04: Just pass out.
- 6:08SPEAKER_04: Just yeah, I would just completely just fall asleep.
- 6:11SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 6:11SPEAKER_04: If I was sitting still, gone.
- 6:14SPEAKER_06: Wow.
- 6:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 6:15SPEAKER_06: Uh I want to say that hasn't happened to me, but it's pretty close.
- 6:19SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 6:19SPEAKER_06: I'll be sitting in church and I'll just be like resting.
- 6:23SPEAKER_06: I'm just resting my eye.
- 6:24SPEAKER_06: Wake up, dear.
- 6:25SPEAKER_06: I'm just resting my eye.
- 6:26SPEAKER_06: I'm praying.
- 6:27SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 6:29SPEAKER_06: Talking to God, leave me alone.
- 6:33SPEAKER_06: Um so anyway, to uh today I thought we'd talk about there was something in the news that uh caught me as interesting.
- 6:40SPEAKER_06: Um and it was it's music related, and we talked about this a little bit.
- 6:45SPEAKER_06: Um and more and more artists are doing this, and I understand why they're doing it.
- 6:50SPEAKER_06: Um well, that too, but let me ask you, let me just pose you the question like this.
- 6:58SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 7:00SPEAKER_06: If you had to let's see.
- 7:06SPEAKER_06: So two artists and if you had to an artist love each other.
- 7:12SPEAKER_06: No, no.
- 7:14SPEAKER_06: They get together.
- 7:15SPEAKER_04: Wait, is this the birds and the beast talk?
- 7:19SPEAKER_04: So and a baby song is born.
- 7:21SPEAKER_06: So if you if you had to pick the more popular um artist, uh their music, I should say.
- 7:33SPEAKER_06: Between these two, who would you say was?
- 7:36SPEAKER_06: The more popular.
- 7:38SPEAKER_04: The more popular, okay.
- 7:40SPEAKER_06: Um the more songs that you could probably do something with.
- 7:45SPEAKER_06: David.
- 7:45SPEAKER_06: David Bowie.
- 7:47SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 7:47SPEAKER_06: ZZ Top.
- 7:52SPEAKER_06: It's a tough one.
- 7:53SPEAKER_06: That is tough.
- 7:57SPEAKER_06: So David Bowie.
- 7:58SPEAKER_06: Or ZZ Top.
- 7:59SPEAKER_06: And I'll tell you why I'm asking you this here in a second.
- 8:01SPEAKER_04: Now, if you're going popularity, I'm not sure you could really go that way because they were both equal almost equally as popular.
- 8:09SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 8:10SPEAKER_04: Um I think David Bowie was a little more diverse.
- 8:17SPEAKER_06: Yep, for sure, for sure.
- 8:18SPEAKER_04: You know, because Z Top, you know, did their thing.
- 8:21SPEAKER_04: And they had, you know, 50 plus years of it.
- 8:23SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 8:24SPEAKER_04: But I mean they were, you know, they were a rock and roll band.
- 8:27SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 8:27SPEAKER_06: So bluesy rock and roll.
- 8:29SPEAKER_04: Blues, yeah.
- 8:29SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 8:30SPEAKER_06: They had their they had the 80s, which was like huge for them.
- 8:34SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 8:34SPEAKER_06: Eliminator, pfft, yeah, but the 80s was huge for David Bowie, too.
- 8:38SPEAKER_06: Modern Love, Modern Love, uh, Let's Dance.
- 8:40SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 8:40SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 8:41SPEAKER_04: Stevie Ray Vaughn on that.
- 8:42SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 8:42SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 8:43SPEAKER_06: Uh here's why I'm asking.
- 8:45SPEAKER_06: Um, because Z Z Top just sold all of the rights to their songs.
- 8:53SPEAKER_06: You know, because veteran artists, heritage artists, the older they get, they're they're selling them off.
- 8:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 8:59SPEAKER_06: Because I mean, they don't have much longer on this planet.
- 9:03SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 9:04SPEAKER_06: And why not just get a big payday and enjoy your life?
- 9:07SPEAKER_06: I get it.
- 9:08SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 9:08SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 9:09SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, ever since uh Dusty died.
- 9:12SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 9:12SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't think there's gonna be Z Z Top anymore.
- 9:15SPEAKER_06: Well, uh Dusty uh Dusty crowned their hi his guitar tech as his replacement.
- 9:23SPEAKER_06: Oh, he did?
- 9:23SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 9:23SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because he knew that But it's it's still I mean, yeah, I mean he he I'm sure he knows the Zeppelin catalog frontwards and backwards.
- 9:32SPEAKER_04: Zeppelin?
- 9:33SPEAKER_04: Huh?
- 9:34SPEAKER_06: Zeppelin?
- 9:34SPEAKER_04: No.
- 9:35SPEAKER_06: You just said Zeppelin.
- 9:36SPEAKER_06: Did I?
- 9:37SPEAKER_06: You mean Z Top?
- 9:38SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 9:38SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 9:39SPEAKER_06: It's okay.
- 9:40SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 9:40SPEAKER_06: You're reading a Zeppelin book right now, so it's not.
- 9:43SPEAKER_04: I was reading the cover.
- 9:44SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 9:45SPEAKER_06: How is that how is that even possible?
- 9:46SPEAKER_06: But I if you've noticed in the past few years, Billy Gibbons, the the lead singer of Z Top, has been putting out a lot of solo albums.
- 9:53SPEAKER_06: So I think you're probably right.
- 9:55SPEAKER_06: I mean, I think Billy Gibbons is gonna be okay on his own.
- 9:58SPEAKER_04: Well, he was gonna be fine anyway.
- 9:59SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 10:00SPEAKER_04: I'm worried about the drummer.
- 10:01SPEAKER_04: Frank Beard?
- 10:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 10:03SPEAKER_04: The guy without a beard.
- 10:04SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 10:04SPEAKER_04: Which is still I'm not worried about him.
- 10:06SPEAKER_06: Well, here's the thing.
- 10:07SPEAKER_04: Well, he's just gonna do his thing.
- 10:09SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 10:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:09SPEAKER_06: Here's the thing.
- 10:10SPEAKER_04: They're all set for life.
- 10:11SPEAKER_06: So they sold their song, their catalog.
- 10:14SPEAKER_04: Well, who did they sell it to?
- 10:15SPEAKER_06: Um please sell it with somebody cool.
- 10:18SPEAKER_06: It's like BMG or something like that.
- 10:20SPEAKER_06: Like a conglomerate, right?
- 10:23SPEAKER_06: But they sold it for fifty million dollars.
- 10:25SPEAKER_06: That's it?
- 10:26SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 10:27SPEAKER_06: Fifty million dollars.
- 10:29SPEAKER_06: Which is a lot of money.
- 10:30SPEAKER_04: It is a lot of money, but I bet they could have got way more.
- 10:32SPEAKER_04: You think so?
- 10:32SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
- 10:33SPEAKER_06: David Bowie, there his his um estate just sold off his catalog.
- 10:40SPEAKER_06: $250 million.
- 10:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see.
- 10:43SPEAKER_04: Ned Zeppelin.
- 10:44SPEAKER_04: There I go again.
- 10:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:46SPEAKER_04: I got Led Zeppelin on the brand.
- 10:47SPEAKER_04: Z top, they could have got way more than$50 million.
- 10:50SPEAKER_06: So you think they settled?
- 10:52SPEAKER_06: You don't think that they were weren't offered?
- 10:55SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure that they shopped around enough.
- 10:57SPEAKER_06: You don't think so?
- 10:58SPEAKER_06: No.
- 10:58SPEAKER_04: Who well, who bought?
- 11:03SPEAKER_04: Was it a conglomerate or yeah, I think it was uh Okay, does my did Michael J does the did Paul McCarty buy back the Beatles rights?
- 11:13SPEAKER_06: I thought he did.
- 11:14SPEAKER_04: But I couldn't Because I mean Michael Jackson bought them.
- 11:17SPEAKER_04: And then I didn't know if his his estate got rid of them or not, or what.
- 11:21SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 11:22SPEAKER_06: Uh or he got rid of them while he was still alive.
- 11:24SPEAKER_06: I think he had to because he was he was bleeding money there for a while.
- 11:28SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah.
- 11:28SPEAKER_04: I mean, Neverland's not a cheap place, man.
- 11:31SPEAKER_06: Um ZZ Top sold their entire music interests to BMG and KKR for an estimated fifty million dollars.
- 11:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see, that's low, man.
- 11:42SPEAKER_04: I They could have got way more.
- 11:44SPEAKER_06: Let me look at David David Bowie.
- 11:49SPEAKER_06: Uh after months of negotiations, there you go.
- 11:53SPEAKER_06: There's your key.
- 11:54SPEAKER_06: David Bowie's estate has sold the singer's formidable publishing catalog to Warner Chapel Music for a price upwards of 250 million, sources confirmed.
- 12:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see Zizy Top could have got way more.
- 12:07SPEAKER_06: Because I think when and I'm not I'm I'm a David Bowie fan.
- 12:11SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean I love David Bowie.
- 12:12SPEAKER_06: I love David Bowie.
- 12:14SPEAKER_06: Um and of course I'm a child of the 80s, so I remember most of that stuff.
- 12:18SPEAKER_06: But you know Ziggy Stardust and and all that stuff from the 70s, you know, I I get all that.
- 12:23SPEAKER_04: Brown control the major tom.
- 12:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:26SPEAKER_06: I would think that Z Z top is at least their 80s catalog would be like really, really huge.
- 12:35SPEAKER_04: Just that, just just the 80s could have gotten a lot of.
- 12:38SPEAKER_06: Eliminator Afterburner, you know.
- 12:40SPEAKER_04: I mean that could have got 50 million alone.
- 12:43SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 12:43SPEAKER_04: I mean, they they should have got at least 100 mil to 150 mil.
- 12:48SPEAKER_06: At least.
- 12:49SPEAKER_06: Because we had talked about this uh before.
- 12:51SPEAKER_06: Uh I think when it was Paul Simon.
- 12:56SPEAKER_06: Um let me see what Paul Simon sold his for.
- 13:01SPEAKER_06: Um sold his song catalog for to Sony for 250 million.
- 13:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah, see.
- 13:09SPEAKER_06: So I wonder why ZZ Top only went for 50.
- 13:12SPEAKER_04: Did they not because they're boys from Texas?
- 13:15SPEAKER_06: And they don't need the money, they don't need the money.
- 13:17SPEAKER_04: They don't care.
- 13:18SPEAKER_04: They're they're set for life as is.
- 13:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 13:21SPEAKER_04: So I mean, it really I don't think it really is.
- 13:23SPEAKER_06: But you know what you think about their family, which I think, you know, again,$50 million is a lot of money.
- 13:28SPEAKER_04: It is a lot of money.
- 13:29SPEAKER_04: But when you're comparing it to Bowie and Paul Simon, they're getting$250 million, and Z Z Tops got a catalog that equals theirs at least.
- 13:41SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 13:42SPEAKER_04: I mean, come on.
- 13:44SPEAKER_06: Okay, so this one was also in December.
- 13:49SPEAKER_06: Uh see if I can find the price here, because uh let's see.
- 13:52SPEAKER_06: I'll try and I'll try and quiz you.
- 13:54SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 13:55SPEAKER_06: Um if they give me a price, give me a price, give me a price.
- 14:00SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 14:01SPEAKER_06: The price was not disclosed, but uh uh this catalog was estimated at more than$300 million.
- 14:07SPEAKER_06: This was in December that this was announced.
- 14:09SPEAKER_06: Who do you think it is?
- 14:11SPEAKER_04: Are they dead or alive?
- 14:13SPEAKER_06: Alive.
- 14:13SPEAKER_04: Um alive is it?
- 14:15SPEAKER_04: McCartney?
- 14:16SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 14:20SPEAKER_04: Michael J no, I was gonna say not Michael's accent, because he's not alive.
- 14:26SPEAKER_04: Um is it a guy or a girl?
- 14:28SPEAKER_04: It's a guy.
- 14:29SPEAKER_04: It's guy.
- 14:32SPEAKER_06: You do a rubber plant?
- 14:34SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 14:34SPEAKER_06: But you would do a mean impression of him.
- 14:37SPEAKER_04: John Madden?
- 14:38SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 14:42SPEAKER_06: I forgot you do an impression.
- 14:43SPEAKER_06: You did an inner.
- 14:44SPEAKER_04: I do an accidental John Madden.
- 14:46SPEAKER_04: That's what I do.
- 14:47SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 14:48SPEAKER_04: Um I do him.
- 14:52SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 14:53SPEAKER_04: Oh, Brian Johnson.
- 14:54SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 14:55SPEAKER_04: Not my Brian Johnson?
- 14:56SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, you yeah.
- 14:59SPEAKER_06: That's but that's I'm pretty.
- 15:03SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 15:04SPEAKER_06: Bob Dylan.
- 15:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's one of my favorite impressions, but my Brian Johnson's pretty good.
- 15:08SPEAKER_06: It is.
- 15:08SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 15:08SPEAKER_06: Uh but Bob Dylan sold his catalog for$300 million back in December.
- 15:12SPEAKER_04: See, that's I I can see that because it's Bob Dylan.
- 15:16SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 15:16SPEAKER_04: And he wrote songs like Right.
- 15:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 15:20SPEAKER_06: Uh so let's see.
- 15:24SPEAKER_04: Wait, isn't his name Robert Zimmerman or something like this?
- 15:26SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 15:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 15:27SPEAKER_06: Yep, Robert Zimmerman.
- 15:28SPEAKER_06: Um, so I was looking this up just to see who owns it says it was I wonder who owns that catalog.
- 15:38SPEAKER_06: It was sound financial advice that McCartney may have come to regret giving on August 14th, 1985, when Michael Jackson purchased the publishing rights to the vast majority of the Beatles catalog for$47 million.
- 15:50SPEAKER_06: That was in 85.
- 15:51SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 15:52SPEAKER_04: Uh course that was a lot of money back then.
- 15:55SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 15:56SPEAKER_06: Uh, and I'm just kind of looking at the article here to see.
- 15:59SPEAKER_06: In the years afterwards, that catalog allowed Jackson to remain solvent by serving as collateral for several enormous personal loans that funded his extravagant lifestyle.
- 16:08SPEAKER_06: Jackson gave up his remaining interest in the catalog to Sony, one of his primary creditors.
- 16:14SPEAKER_06: After his death, Sony took full control of the catalog.
- 16:17SPEAKER_06: So Sony owns the Beatles catalog.
- 16:20SPEAKER_06: Well, the vast majority.
- 16:22SPEAKER_04: But I I don't understand why McCartney doesn't get it back.
- 16:25SPEAKER_06: I know.
- 16:26SPEAKER_04: Between him and Ringo?
- 16:27SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 16:27SPEAKER_04: They should have that catalog.
- 16:29unknown: Right.
- 16:29SPEAKER_04: And you know, and and John and George's estates.
- 16:32SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 16:33SPEAKER_04: Between the four of them, they could own that back.
- 16:35SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 16:36SPEAKER_04: You know, easily.
- 16:37SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to I'm trying to think if there was because there I thought there was some um I mean, I'm I'm I'm uh I'm weirded out by them selling out to these big music conglomerates.
- 16:47SPEAKER_06: Because you know what they're gonna use that music for.
- 16:49SPEAKER_06: They're gonna use it to sell things.
- 16:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
- 16:51SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be an advertising, and which I mean in and of itself is is not evil, but it's like it really should belong to the estates and the people themselves.
- 17:00SPEAKER_04: But I mean they're so I mean, if they're selling it themselves, I mean that's one thing, but Okay.
- 17:05SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 17:06SPEAKER_06: So Bob Dylan, we mentioned$300 million.
- 17:09SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 17:10SPEAKER_06: Uh this one was also in December.
- 17:16SPEAKER_06: It was announced.
- 17:17SPEAKER_06: I forgot about this one.
- 17:18SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 17:19SPEAKER_06: $500 million.
- 17:20SPEAKER_06: $500 million?
- 17:21SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 17:23SPEAKER_06: Who do you think?
- 17:25SPEAKER_04: Dead or alive?
- 17:26SPEAKER_06: Alive.
- 17:28SPEAKER_04: McCarney?
- 17:29SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 17:29SPEAKER_04: I keep going.
- 17:30SPEAKER_04: I keep going to McCarney.
- 17:32SPEAKER_04: Is there somebody cool or lame?
- 17:35SPEAKER_04: Pretty cool.
- 17:36SPEAKER_04: Pretty cool.
- 17:41SPEAKER_04: Who would be worth$500 million?
- 17:43SPEAKER_06: I don't necessarily think this person um I think this is high for this person's catalog.
- 17:52SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 17:54SPEAKER_04: I I I have no idea.
- 17:57SPEAKER_06: The boss, Bruce Springsteen.
- 17:58SPEAKER_04: That is high.
- 18:00SPEAKER_04: $500 million?
- 18:00SPEAKER_04: $500 million.
- 18:01SPEAKER_04: Bruce Bruce's songs now.
- 18:03SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 18:04SPEAKER_06: Um 200, maybe.
- 18:08SPEAKER_06: I would say two.
- 18:08SPEAKER_06: I would even say$250, because I mean David Bowie got$250.
- 18:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah, if David Bowie could get$250.
- 18:12SPEAKER_04: The boss could get$250.
- 18:14SPEAKER_06: Easy.
- 18:14SPEAKER_04: But$500 million?
- 18:15SPEAKER_04: That's way too high.
- 18:16SPEAKER_06: Who do you sell to?
- 18:18SPEAKER_06: Um I believe Sony.
- 18:25SPEAKER_06: Wow.
- 18:28SPEAKER_06: He said uh the the let's see, Sony Music Group Chairman Rob Stringer told investors he spent about$1.5 billion just on music acquisitions since the beginning of last year.
- 18:41SPEAKER_06: Wow.
- 18:42SPEAKER_06: Um He said there are huge differences between royalties for songwriting and performance.
- 18:49SPEAKER_06: Some of these deals are just for publishing, others also include the original recordings, known as masters, so they could use those songs for advertising and things like that.
- 18:57SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 18:57SPEAKER_06: But a lot of it is um publishing.
- 19:00SPEAKER_06: There were two more, and we'll see if I just want to look these up real quick because okay, a hundred million dollars.
- 19:09SPEAKER_06: Uh this artist sold eighty percent of the rights of the songwriting catalog to music publisher primary wave for a reported one hundred million dollars back in January.
- 19:24SPEAKER_06: Who do you think it is?
- 19:26SPEAKER_06: Female.
- 19:26SPEAKER_04: Female?
- 19:27SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 19:27SPEAKER_04: Mariah Carey.
- 19:28SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 19:29SPEAKER_04: Madonna.
- 19:30SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 19:30SPEAKER_04: Sure.
- 19:31SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 19:32SPEAKER_04: Barbara Streisand.
- 19:34SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 19:34SPEAKER_04: Am I even close?
- 19:36SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 19:38SPEAKER_06: Stevie Nicks.
- 19:39SPEAKER_04: Oh, Stevie Nicks?
- 19:40SPEAKER_06: 100 million.
- 19:42SPEAKER_06: Stevie Nicks, 100 million.
- 19:43SPEAKER_06: Zeezy Top, 50 million.
- 19:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see that's that's high.
- 19:47SPEAKER_06: Although Stevie Nick, it's for her songwriting catalog.
- 19:49SPEAKER_06: So she wrote She wrote a lot.
- 19:51SPEAKER_06: She wrote Dreams for Fleetwood Mac.
- 19:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 19:53SPEAKER_06: She wrote a lot, yeah.
- 19:54SPEAKER_06: All the songs that she wrote for for the Mac, plus her songwriter or her solo songwriting.
- 19:58SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 19:59SPEAKER_06: You know,$100 million.
- 20:01SPEAKER_04: Um I I I think it's still high, but okay.
- 20:06SPEAKER_06: And then this guy sold 50% of the publishing rights to his entire catalog to a UK a UK investment fund.
- 20:17SPEAKER_06: Uh the deal gives Hib uh hypnosis, the rights to the worldwide copyright and income interests from uh over eleven hundred songs, and has been reported to cost around a hundred and fifty million dollars.
- 20:31SPEAKER_06: This one's Canadian.
- 20:32SPEAKER_06: Brian Adams.
- 20:33SPEAKER_06: Nope.
- 20:36SPEAKER_06: Gordon Lightfoot.
- 20:37SPEAKER_06: Terrible guitar player.
- 20:38SPEAKER_06: I shouldn't say terrible.
- 20:40SPEAKER_04: Terrible guitar player.
- 20:41SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 20:41SPEAKER_06: Not as he's not, he's not a terrible guitar player, but he's a spastic guitar player.
- 20:46SPEAKER_04: I have no idea.
- 20:47SPEAKER_06: Neil Young.
- 20:48SPEAKER_04: Oh, Neil Young.
- 20:49SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 20:49SPEAKER_04: No, your your first assessment was better.
- 20:53SPEAKER_06: $150 million for Neil Young's catalog.
- 20:56SPEAKER_06: For 50%.
- 20:57SPEAKER_06: That's only 50%?
- 20:58SPEAKER_06: That's yep.
- 20:59SPEAKER_06: That's really high.
- 21:00SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 21:01unknown: Yeah.
- 21:02SPEAKER_06: Well, I mean, if you consider because he was in Buffalo Springfield.
- 21:04SPEAKER_06: Oh.
- 21:05SPEAKER_06: He was in Crosby Steel's National Young.
- 21:07SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, he had a solo career.
- 21:09SPEAKER_04: I mean, I mean, I'm not saying it's not prolific, but still that's a lot of money.
- 21:13SPEAKER_06: It is a lot of money.
- 21:14SPEAKER_06: But I mean, they're 70 and 80 years on.
- 21:17SPEAKER_04: No, I get I get why they're doing it.
- 21:19SPEAKER_04: I just uh I don't know.
- 21:20SPEAKER_04: I just giving it to these I mean you're giving it to a UK investment.
- 21:26SPEAKER_06: It's true.
- 21:27SPEAKER_06: So but but I mean think about this.
- 21:28SPEAKER_06: If you have it.
- 21:30SPEAKER_06: Like would you want someone in your family running it uh with that responsibility?
- 21:39SPEAKER_06: Or would you want them to live a good life?
- 21:43SPEAKER_06: Like like say say um um well Bruce Springsteen has kids.
- 21:49SPEAKER_06: So Springsteen sold his catalog for five hundred million dollars.
- 21:53SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 21:54SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 21:55SPEAKER_06: Would it be is it better that he did that and gave the money to his kids and they can do whatever they want forever.
- 22:05SPEAKER_06: Or leave his catalogue i with his kids and they have to they are charged with doing something with it.
- 22:16SPEAKER_06: It's that's work.
- 22:18SPEAKER_04: Well yeah if you're gonna give your kids five hundred million dollars they better work for it.
- 22:23SPEAKER_06: No w what I'm saying is so he gave so so say he dies.
- 22:29SPEAKER_06: He will eventually right kids have millions of dollars to live a happy life or they have to work with for his catalog.
- 22:42SPEAKER_06: They have to say well you can use it and you can't use it and you can't use it and so why have that headache?
- 22:47SPEAKER_04: Why not just have millions of dollars Yeah but I'd rather the kids hopefully have have the have the say so of what it's used for.
- 22:58SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 22:59SPEAKER_06: So it's like his legacy his legacy but now his legacy which are those songs are in the hands of someone who is has no um relation besides business.
- 23:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah that that's I think that's what bothers me the most I see that I mean I can see you know they're selling to Sony and BMG.
- 23:21SPEAKER_04: I mean their music conglomerates I mean that means anybody under the Sony umbrella could use you know could cover their songs.
- 23:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah you know with no problem hey look we got all these songs you can cover one of them.
- 23:32SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 23:33SPEAKER_04: I get that that's that's at least the music is continuing but you're just giving it willy-nilly to some like Neil Young giving it to some investment group right they're not even are they investing in what?
- 23:48SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 23:49SPEAKER_04: So what are they gonna do they're gonna they're gonna sell this to advertisers that so that you know advertisers or companies can use Neil Young Neil Young's songs to advertise you know feminine hygiene products or whatever you know or whatever you know and there's not anything that Neil Young's kids can do about it.
- 24:09SPEAKER_04: Or family.
- 24:10SPEAKER_06: Say there's a charity that Neil Young is is uh really behind and wants to support um and the charity knows him well they go to him they say we want to use your song uh I don't know say it's a say it's a uh charity for drug addicts okay we want to use your song needling the damage done okay um would that be okay if we could we we get support for our program if we use your song needling and he says yes but they can't because that's somebody else owns it.
- 24:51SPEAKER_06: Yeah no I get what you're saying.
- 24:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah just to meet that's what I was just trying to give an example.
- 24:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah but I mean you're right.
- 24:57SPEAKER_06: Springsteen uh can we use your song to promote this and he says he's live I mean he says oh yeah absolutely use my song but Sony says uh uh no we own it yeah we own it shut up Bruce we own your song right that's see that that's that that's what bothers me right there if if they take one of like a song that you and I wrote yeah no I'm just saying you know yeah yeah we we we write a you know a bestseller you know goes ultra multi platinum whatever from your lips to God's ears man yeah see that's what I'm saying and then you know somebody comes to us like I don't know some somebody somebody we're in you know we want to help we say hey use our song right you know raise some money for your your your cause right and but we've we've sold it to you know you know ABC Music Corporation right oh no no no you can't do that well we wrote the mother effing thing right but they own it because that's what I'm saying man yep you're absolutely right I mean you it we we poured our you know our talents into this song but we have no say of what it can be used for.
- 26:08SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 26:09SPEAKER_04: That see to me that is just sad and wrong.
- 26:12SPEAKER_06: Yep to me.
- 26:13SPEAKER_06: And I and I get like you said as these um because the boss is in the 70s.
- 26:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah I mean he's no spring check Billy Gibbons is all is 70 I think and uh Paul Simon's eighty or something like that.
- 26:27SPEAKER_04: And I mean we're not gonna have these guys around for much longer.
- 26:30SPEAKER_06: Right and I get that they you know it's a business decision and so that they can enjoy the rest of their lives.
- 26:37SPEAKER_04: I mean I on a on a on one plane I get it.
- 26:42SPEAKER_04: I understand.
- 26:42SPEAKER_04: It's it's all business is both but it it's your heart you I mean you you sat down and you came up with this idea you came up with the the music and the words to this song and you put it out and you you used to play it you know for people and you know made people happy or you know and then some you know faceless corporation owns it now and you you know I I just it just bothers me.
- 27:06SPEAKER_06: I'm curious because I remember I don't know if it was in the um the the movie like the uh documentary um but I think I read somewhere that because you know if this band ever sold the rights to their music that it would be people would use it all the time Led Zeppelin you've been talking about him all all the whole podcast yeah um but they I think said they never want their music to be used for commercial purposes but they have have they haven't they I don't know have they well they've they've they've started to let it be used in movies movies right well that's different I think I can I can understand that you know yeah um I think the first one I remember was school rock right when they let immigrant song immigrant song be played on and I was like you know and but it's perfect because the whole movie is about rock and roll so I mean that was perfect.
- 28:18SPEAKER_06: I mean that was but I mean using it to you know well it was like when uh Chevy used Bob Seeger's uh like a rock right to sell trucks for years and years he made so much money on that I know he made stupid amounts of money yep so I you know I guess I don't know I'm just and and you know another band that if they ever did that that would be just it the the price tag I think if Led Zeppelin ever sold their catalog it would be more than 500 million dollars.
- 28:49SPEAKER_06: It would be up there or I don't think it would be more than or it was probably right you're right probably equivalent.
- 28:55SPEAKER_04: It would be it would be it would be like two 250.
- 28:59SPEAKER_04: I could see it going for that um it would be A C D C.
- 29:04SPEAKER_06: Oh good lord I'm surprised they haven't to be honest with you yeah I'm well I'm not surprised they haven't because I think Angus is against that stuff.
- 29:15SPEAKER_04: Well that's that's good.
- 29:16SPEAKER_04: I mean you know I mean if he could hang on to as long as he can but he I mean they're not young men.
- 29:21SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 29:22SPEAKER_04: So I mean you know what are they gonna do you know leave it to their families.
- 29:25SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 29:26SPEAKER_06: I know that uh when I finally sell my catalog I'll give you I got five bucks in my pocket like you could have it right now I think it's worth at least five bucks.
- 29:40SPEAKER_06: At least man's a down payment on it so speaking of back catalogs uh let's do the common crossing song of the week you know for a band that's only put out one you know actual album we have quite we have quite the catalog.
- 29:59SPEAKER_04: We do you know really if you think about it.
- 30:01SPEAKER_06: Yeah and I mean we were we were together on New Year's Eve.
- 30:05SPEAKER_06: I'm still writing I mean you're still writing we're all still still writing well I'm not really writing I'm just well but I mean I'm contributing right here and there.
- 30:12SPEAKER_06: But I played a couple of song a couple of new songs for for Shane and you at uh at our little get together New Year's Eve.
- 30:18SPEAKER_06: I'm still writing stuff.
- 30:19SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 30:20SPEAKER_06: Um so you're right I mean we do have quite a few songs.
- 30:23SPEAKER_04: Yeah I mean and not all of them I mean and uh anybody wants to buy the catalog?
- 30:28SPEAKER_06: Yeah just asking price is one billion dollars yeah one billion dollars I'm looking in I'm looking in your direction Bill Gates no I wouldn't sell anything to Bill Gates.
- 30:46SPEAKER_06: Oh Elon Musk hey Elon Musk buy our catalog one billion yeah right or at least you know what how about just a just some cash so we can get into a proper recording studio and and record them all.
- 30:57SPEAKER_06: 37 have we ever told that story I don't think so that is the funniest story so you have to know Doug's debt to appreciate this we'll preface this by saying and I think we've we've talked about this before every gig that some uh that uh Doug's dad comes to see us at he always requests the same song and we've never ever played it never one day we will surprise him yeah but he'll always yell out Apache65 which is not the name of the song right so but so you have to know Doug's dad to appreciate this but you tell the story because I know I don't remember what the set we were at your house.
- 31:42SPEAKER_04: No no we were at your house.
- 31:43SPEAKER_04: We're at my house.
- 31:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah when you were living on Mechanic Street and you and tr I think you and Teresa had just been married or you weren't or you were getting close to married or you were married.
- 31:53SPEAKER_04: It was somewhere in that vicinity.
- 31:55SPEAKER_04: It was the late 90s.
- 31:56SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 31:57SPEAKER_04: And you guys were talking about building your own house.
- 32:00SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 32:00SPEAKER_04: So I said well and I and dad built our house from the ground up.
- 32:05SPEAKER_04: Yep so um so you did you call him I did oh okay so I was at the house and I said well let me call dad so we how much he uh he he uh he built the how much it cost to build the whole house right so I call the house and mom answers I say hey mom can you ask dad how much it cost to build the house and so you could hear like off the hey son hey how much did it cost to build the house and hear dad back 37 dollars we've been saying that some of my selling the house my parents built 37 so but every time something I don't know we get into the right situation we just one of us will just say 30 37 dollars anyway um where was I oh yeah we were doing the comic book this year we were offering our catalog to Elon Musk for$37.
- 33:05SPEAKER_06: $37 right$37 billion dig it or leave it Elon billion dollars 37 billion um so the song of the week this week is kind of a neat one uh yeah I like I like this song there's some history to it because what used to happen was so Comic Crossing is uh myself Doug and Shane right but Comic Crossing used to be myself Doug and a guy named Nate Brewer who played bass Shane eventually joined on guitar right before Nate left and he switched over to bass.
- 33:40SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 33:40SPEAKER_06: So Nate Brewer technically was a member of Comic Crossing I and don't he's an OG I I shouldn't I I've left out Joko.
- 33:50SPEAKER_06: Uh Comic Crossing is is Doug, myself Shane and Josh Kovac.
- 33:56SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 33:57SPEAKER_04: Um but the OG Comet Crossing is me, you and Nate.
- 34:02SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 34:03SPEAKER_06: So um what typically would happen Nate Nate was a uh Nate was our I would say Nate was probably our main singer or was I still our main singer.
- 34:12SPEAKER_04: No he was the main singer.
- 34:12SPEAKER_06: That's what I thought yeah yeah he sang a lot of the songs.
- 34:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah and um he would he was more of a because he wasn't musical per se.
- 34:22SPEAKER_04: He didn't play guitar he had a really good voice.
- 34:24SPEAKER_06: Yeah he could really he was a really great singer um he he didn't play an instrument or he well he me he was learning bass yeah so he was our our quote unquote bass player right um but he would write a lot of poetry yes because uh well I mean he was a sensitive guy and he was uh kind of a romantic he was a hopeless romantic yeah yeah and so he would come in with these poems and he said can you do anything with this and I said yeah I'll try and so I would sit down and and kind of put music to it and and he would he would sing along and and we would kind of flesh it out together and you were there also and um so this is one of those.
- 35:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah and I found this recording there was this was before we were Comic Crossing this was before we were even the Blake Street boys right technically um but it was just Nate and I at his dad's house uh his dad had this music music room kind of like this but smaller where he had all kinds of CDs and stuff like that because his dad is a big music fan.
- 35:28SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 35:29SPEAKER_06: And uh so we sat down and we just recorded just like on a cassette player um so we could remember these songs.
- 35:37SPEAKER_06: We'd only written a few and this is one of them and I found the cassette.
- 35:41SPEAKER_06: Um where is it right here.
- 35:44SPEAKER_06: It's actually a cassette that I sent my wife while she was in college and the the label says attention Teresa her last name from J U J which was just us jamming which was a terrible name for a band.
- 36:05SPEAKER_06: Jug.
- 36:06SPEAKER_06: And it says quote that's our name unless you can think of something better unquote which she could because she's smarter than all of us she absolutely is and there's a just a list of songs um and see there's one that you oh no that's not one that you I was gonna say there's one that you co-wrote but that's actually Bob I forgot that Bob co-wrote Bachelor's Anthem oh yeah yeah I had nothing to do with that yeah um so anyway I found this this is uh in 1995 we ha I have a cassette player and it it's okay it's a it's a decent cassette player but the sound obviously it sounds like a record it sounds like it's it's got that hiss it's got that hiss but it's also got some sort of crackle and I don't know if that's the cassette I don't know if that's a cassette it's yeah just yeah probably um but um this is Nate Brewer singing a song lyrics that he wrote music that I wrote uh and it's a song called I Do.
- 37:14SPEAKER_06: So here we go.
- 37:15SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna call it Comet Crossing anyway.
- 37:18SPEAKER_06: So this is I Do Comic Crossing song of the week.
- 37:22unknown: Enjoy.
- 37:22SPEAKER_02: This is I Do written by Nathan Brewer and Brian Mosier copyright nineteen ninety five piece cake music I love you are to wonder she says not suck it's good to see nothing has changed that little that little editorial at the end sucked and incidentally whenever we play live after every song that's what I say it is true.
- 41:57SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna test that at least one of us will go sucked horrible looking each other go well it didn't suck.
- 42:05SPEAKER_04: Yeah that that's our that's our that's our uh you know our either it sucked or it did suck.
- 42:12SPEAKER_04: So we're never like that was awesome we never do that or that was terrible no it's just like it sucked or that did suck.
- 42:20SPEAKER_04: So that's our that's our range of musical emotions.
- 42:24SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 42:24SPEAKER_06: Uh but it's been a long time since I heard that song and that's uh one of my favorite ones I always like that song.
- 42:30SPEAKER_06: Yeah it's it was always fun to play.
- 42:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah um yeah so that's uh Comic Crossing technically it wasn't but that's okay.
- 42:37SPEAKER_06: It was but it wasn't we we played it as Comic well we played it as the Blake Street Boys.
- 42:40SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 42:42SPEAKER_06: Which was the precursor to Comic Crossing yes right uh but that is I do with uh Nate Brewer on lead vocals.
- 42:50SPEAKER_04: Blake Street Boys were the quarry men to the Beatles.
- 42:54SPEAKER_06: Right so yeah I would say that's so so Blake Street Boys was the Not that you can really say Common Crossing in the same breath as the Beatles I just did.
- 43:03SPEAKER_06: You did Beatles Common Crossing what in the same yeah all right so there you go Common Crossing song of the week that is called I Do.
- 43:18SPEAKER_06: So we're gonna take a break we're coming back with the uh Wall of Tunes.
- 43:22SPEAKER_06: We're gonna go get some coffee are we?
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- 44:37SPEAKER_05: And my cousin Larry.
- 44:41SPEAKER_06: And we're back.
- 44:42SPEAKER_06: Baka, backa, backa, backa.
- 44:44SPEAKER_06: We don't have coffee.
- 44:45SPEAKER_06: No coffee.
- 44:45SPEAKER_06: No coffee.
- 44:46SPEAKER_06: We are coffee less.
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- 44:50SPEAKER_06: It's uh time to climb the Wall of Tunes.
- 44:53SPEAKER_06: Everybody's favorite uh part of the podcast.
- 44:56SPEAKER_06: Well, and by that I mean me.
- 44:57SPEAKER_06: It's my favorite part of the podcast.
- 44:59SPEAKER_04: And mine.
- 44:59SPEAKER_04: So there's two people.
- 45:00SPEAKER_06: Uh so this is where I pull a actually for people that are just joining the podcast, where the hell you been?
- 45:08unknown: Yeah.
- 45:08SPEAKER_04: Um you've got a lot of episodes to catch up on.
- 45:12SPEAKER_06: Uh Wall of Tunes is a basically a full rack of uh CDs behind me.
- 45:18SPEAKER_06: It's about a thousand or CDs.
- 45:19SPEAKER_04: You got a great rack.
- 45:28SPEAKER_06: About a thousand or so CDs that I have kept for one reason or another.
- 45:32SPEAKER_06: It's a huge rack.
- 45:44SPEAKER_06: Twelve years old.
- 45:45SPEAKER_04: I am twelve years old.
- 45:46SPEAKER_04: I love it.
- 45:47SPEAKER_06: Uh all right, so are you ready?
- 45:50SPEAKER_06: Covering your eyes?
- 45:50SPEAKER_06: All right, I'm taking it looking! Taking off my headphones.
- 45:53SPEAKER_04: Taking off the headphones!
- 45:54SPEAKER_06: Closing my eyes.
- 45:57SPEAKER_04: Taking off the headphones and look at the giant rack.
- 46:08SPEAKER_03: Oh, goodie.
- 46:09SPEAKER_06: Oh, goody.
- 46:11SPEAKER_06: This is okay.
- 46:12SPEAKER_06: I like this.
- 46:12SPEAKER_06: Okay, you can you can I like this.
- 46:15SPEAKER_06: We're gonna do an artist that uh you've probably never heard of, so I'm not even sure that you would be able to guess.
- 46:21SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 46:22SPEAKER_06: So uh have a good night.
- 46:25SPEAKER_06: Alright.
- 46:26SPEAKER_06: I'm alright.
- 46:28SPEAKER_06: No, you're not.
- 46:29SPEAKER_06: I'm the other guy.
- 46:34SPEAKER_06: Actually, if I No, there's no way that you would get this artist.
- 46:40SPEAKER_06: There's no way.
- 46:41SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 46:42SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm not gonna attempt it then.
- 46:43SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so I'll I'll I'll mention it uh only because I think it's cool that we feature sometimes feature artists that nobody's ever heard of because um this guy Nobody except you.
- 46:53SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 46:54SPEAKER_06: This guy uh has actually been around for quite a long time.
- 46:57SPEAKER_06: He's a folk singer.
- 46:59SPEAKER_06: His name, you know I may be pronouncing it wrong, I don't know.
- 47:03SPEAKER_06: Uh but Cliff Eberhart.
- 47:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I never heard of him.
- 47:06SPEAKER_06: Uh Cliff Eberhart?
- 47:08SPEAKER_06: Cliff Eberhart.
- 47:10SPEAKER_06: I believe he is his friends call him Cliff.
- 47:13SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's friends call him Cliff.
- 47:14SPEAKER_06: I have about three of his albums.
- 47:16SPEAKER_06: He's got several more.
- 47:18SPEAKER_06: Um I can't remember you know, I used to listen to this show on uh public radio.
- 47:29SPEAKER_06: Um they have or had, I think they have a s a version of it still, but when I was younger, I listened to the show called In Tune by Ten with Sarah Willis.
- 47:42SPEAKER_06: Uh every night at 10 o'clock she would play I guess you could call it modern folk music.
- 47:49SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 47:50SPEAKER_06: Um it would be anything from uh Alice Paul.
- 47:55SPEAKER_06: Um she would play some obscure Sean Colvin.
- 47:59SPEAKER_06: Um just um and then a lot of artists that I'd never heard of, and that's one way I got turned on to modern folk artists or some some modern folk artists.
- 48:09SPEAKER_06: And I think I this is where I heard Cliff Eberhardt.
- 48:13SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 48:13SPEAKER_06: I I'm calling him Eberhardt, and maybe Eberhardt I I really don't know.
- 48:16SPEAKER_04: Eberhardt sounds cooler.
- 48:18SPEAKER_06: Um and he she played a song.
- 48:22SPEAKER_06: Actually, I can probably get you the song because it's on this album that I picked.
- 48:26SPEAKER_06: So the album that I picked is called Twelve Songs of Good and Evil.
- 48:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I liked this guy's voice.
- 48:36SPEAKER_06: Um and he was a pretty pretty damn good guitar player as well.
- 48:45SPEAKER_06: Um acoustic guitar player.
- 48:48SPEAKER_06: And he's still around, he's still making music.
- 48:52SPEAKER_06: I'm not sure what it was that caught me, whether it was the guitar or whether it was this guy's voice, and it's a song about drug abuse.
- 49:00SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 49:01SPEAKER_06: But it's called Joey's Arms.
- 49:04SPEAKER_06: And it's just him and a guitar, basically.
- 49:08SPEAKER_06: Which is a lot of what this album is.
- 49:11SPEAKER_06: It's a very acoustic bass.
- 49:17SPEAKER_03: Never could be a savior.
- 49:21SPEAKER_03: Never could stop the pain.
- 49:29SPEAKER_03: It's running down the drain.
- 49:35SPEAKER_03: I love the last things that are wicked.
- 49:39SPEAKER_03: Look the last things cause me harm, but I never love nothing like Joey loves.
- 49:50SPEAKER_03: Wow, yeah.
- 49:51SPEAKER_06: It's I mean I actually learned this song after I got the album just because I thought it was just really cool.
- 50:04SPEAKER_03: Joey heavies runaway, girl.
- 50:08SPEAKER_03: They parted in my hotel room.
- 50:12SPEAKER_03: Oh, that just faces like the name on a stranger's tune.
- 50:22SPEAKER_03: Did a lot of things just for comfort.
- 50:26SPEAKER_03: Did a lot of things to keep me warm, but I never did nothing like Joy does.
- 50:37SPEAKER_06: So he's got like a raspy bluesy voice.
- 50:39SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
- 50:40SPEAKER_06: Um, and then so I I dug into let me let me play a couple more songs off this album because it's got uh I don't want you to think all of it's depressing.
- 50:56SPEAKER_06: There's a bass somewhere.
- 51:02SPEAKER_03: Some of them have a little more instrumentation than I found that I killed.
- 51:44SPEAKER_03: I'm running around looking for things to do.
- 51:50SPEAKER_03: If you were here do things for you.
- 51:55SPEAKER_06: So it's just a it's it's just a good listen.
- 51:57SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 51:58SPEAKER_06: You know, it's just uh good stuff.
- 52:00SPEAKER_06: Uh I'll play a little bit of one more off this album, and then I want to play something off uh another album that I have of his.
- 52:07SPEAKER_06: So I I this is the first album that I got, and then I picked another one up, and it was a lot more produced.
- 52:14SPEAKER_06: Um I think it actually came out before this one.
- 52:22SPEAKER_03: Late at night, voice on the phone, your memories and dreams won't leave you alone.
- 52:34SPEAKER_03: Something that happened so long ago.
- 52:40SPEAKER_03: You can't tell the truth, and you can't come back home.
- 52:49SPEAKER_03: So you kept it a secret so many years, hidden in anger, shadowed in fear, question which it's the question, take it the best of you.
- 53:16SPEAKER_03: The best of you is what they never would know.
- 53:22SPEAKER_03: The best of you is what they never The best of you is what it does.
- 53:31SPEAKER_03: Deep in your heart.
- 53:34SPEAKER_03: The best of you is all that I'm gonna do.
- 53:36SPEAKER_06: It's just a type of album that I would like you and I to do at some point.
- 53:39SPEAKER_06: That'd be fun.
- 53:40SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
- 53:40SPEAKER_06: Just you and I, just like we because we play acoustically.
- 53:42SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
- 53:43SPEAKER_06: Um just just record some songs, just you and I.
- 53:47SPEAKER_06: Um, so then I I did some research and I got another album of his, which is called I believe it's Now You Are My Home.
- 53:54SPEAKER_06: Now You Are My Home, yep.
- 53:56SPEAKER_06: Uh and let me just play one song off this.
- 54:00SPEAKER_06: I think this one has a good one.
- 54:02SPEAKER_06: Uh he does a cover of a Smokey Robinson song.
- 54:05SPEAKER_06: Alright.
- 54:05SPEAKER_06: Uh You Really Got a Hold on Me.
- 54:07SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
- 54:08SPEAKER_06: And it's a kind of a cool version, too.
- 54:10SPEAKER_06: Um but I always like this one off this off this album.
- 54:18SPEAKER_06: So obviously already already it sounds different.
- 54:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 54:23SPEAKER_06: And there's piano and I'll I don't know if it's on this song, but the full band.
- 55:03SPEAKER_03: I can't feel I'm not quite all you.
- 55:11SPEAKER_06: So I just and he's still making music.
- 55:15SPEAKER_06: No, but he plays like like uh small clubs and and coffee houses and and whatnot.
- 55:24SPEAKER_06: And he's he does more more of um what you heard the f the first few songs that I played.
- 55:29SPEAKER_06: Uh very acoustic.
- 55:30SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 55:31SPEAKER_06: Um and it's I don't know, it's just great stuff, and it's a a a breath of fresh air.
- 55:37SPEAKER_06: Um I like his voice.
- 55:39SPEAKER_04: I think he's got a very nice voice.
- 55:41SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I've always liked his voice.
- 55:43SPEAKER_06: When I was down um, I think it was it wasn't the last time I was down in Bangor and stopped in Bull Moose, but the time before, um I got another one of his albums called Mona Lisa Cafe, which is also a great album.
- 55:56SPEAKER_06: Um But as a songwriter, you y you try, or at least I try to listen to different types of music.
- 56:04SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 56:05SPEAKER_06: So you know, because I mean obviously we talk about rock and roll all the time.
- 56:08SPEAKER_06: I love rock and roll, but I love country music because of the stories.
- 56:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 56:11SPEAKER_06: I love modern folk music like that, Cliff Cliff Everhardt, because I mean you heard Joey's arms and that moved you a little bit.
- 56:18SPEAKER_04: Oh, it was good.
- 56:19SPEAKER_06: You know, it's like I never heard it put that way before.
- 56:22SPEAKER_06: And and so I listened to that stuff just to feed my soul and to feed my, you know, uh craft, I guess.
- 56:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 56:32SPEAKER_06: So I got it.
- 56:34SPEAKER_06: I highly recommend uh and and he I say he's still going.
- 56:38SPEAKER_06: I don't know how many albums he's got, and I don't know if he's still putting out albums in this weird age that we're in, because um I don't know, he he may still make albums and sell at his shows, but most people stream now and and you know, uh I think they probably make their living off touring now.
- 56:59SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 57:00SPEAKER_06: More than anything else.
- 57:01SPEAKER_06: So that is, and again, I g I probably should uh look up on YouTube and interview with him or something to find out how to pronounce his name.
- 57:09SPEAKER_06: Because I've always said Cliff Eberhart.
- 57:12SPEAKER_04: That's probably right.
- 57:14SPEAKER_06: Um it could be Eberhart, it's an E B.
- 57:17SPEAKER_04: That doesn't sound right.
- 57:18SPEAKER_06: Um But really, really good stuff.
- 57:21SPEAKER_06: Um I dig it, and if you want to borrow any one of those albums, I will let you walk away with one this evening.
- 57:30SPEAKER_06: You I'm talking to you, and not everybody else.
- 57:33SPEAKER_04: I was like, are you talking to me?
- 57:34SPEAKER_04: Are you talking what were you talking about?
- 57:36SPEAKER_06: No, it's for you, man.
- 57:38SPEAKER_04: How are you gonna give everybody that they do?
- 57:41SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be rough.
- 57:44unknown: Alright.
- 57:45SPEAKER_04: We gotta did you uh uh was looking on our on our site our last episode.
- 57:51SPEAKER_04: Yeah a couple people in France listened to it.
- 57:55SPEAKER_04: Oh, I didn't see that.
- 57:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 57:56SPEAKER_04: Along with our one listener in Germany, Guten Tag.
- 58:00SPEAKER_04: Nice.
- 58:00SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 58:01SPEAKER_06: No, I didn't see that.
- 58:02SPEAKER_04: Bonjour! French people.
- 58:04SPEAKER_06: I did see that cousin Larry really likes your uh Did you see his comment?
- 58:08SPEAKER_04: About the stern gaze.
- 58:09SPEAKER_06: Stern gaze folded arms on a t-shirt.
- 58:14SPEAKER_06: Looking at 2022 with a stern gaze and folded arms.
- 58:17SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 58:18SPEAKER_06: I'm still looking at it like that too.
- 58:20SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think I am too.
- 58:22SPEAKER_06: So far, it it's not terrible.
- 58:25SPEAKER_06: Oh, you just wait.
- 58:26SPEAKER_06: Oh, I know.
- 58:27SPEAKER_06: It's lying in wait.
- 58:28SPEAKER_06: I know.
- 58:29SPEAKER_06: Like CLT6.
- 58:31unknown: You don't know when it's gonna wear it's gonna be.
- 58:34SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 58:35SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's oh I know.
- 58:36SPEAKER_06: Something's coming for sure.
- 58:38SPEAKER_04: But I mean, we lost Betty White.
- 58:41SPEAKER_06: We lost Betty White, we lost John Madden.
- 58:43SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 58:43SPEAKER_04: I mean, come on, man.
- 58:44SPEAKER_06: Yep.
- 58:45SPEAKER_06: And uh, you know, I mean, just weird, weird things are happening.
- 58:49SPEAKER_06: Like Barbara Streisand coming out and saying that she's still alive.
- 58:53SPEAKER_06: Right, but she's coming out and saying that uh Biden's economy is the best in forty years.
- 58:58SPEAKER_04: Well, for her, she's rich.
- 59:00SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 59:01SPEAKER_04: Of course it's great.
- 59:02SPEAKER_04: It's like, are you kidding me right now?
- 59:04SPEAKER_04: Talk about somebody who's out of touch.
- 59:08SPEAKER_04: But you know, that's Babs for you.
- 59:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 59:11SPEAKER_06: Uh anyway, so that's season five, episode shoot, what was it?
- 59:15SPEAKER_06: Eight?
- 59:15SPEAKER_06: Eight.
- 59:16SPEAKER_06: Episode eight.
- 59:17SPEAKER_06: I'm right.
- 59:17SPEAKER_06: Season five, episode eight.
- 59:20SPEAKER_06: We always find something to talk about, right?
- 59:22SPEAKER_06: Number eight.
- 59:23SPEAKER_06: Every time we come in here.
- 59:24SPEAKER_06: You got anything to talk about?
- 59:25SPEAKER_06: No, not really.
- 59:26SPEAKER_06: We'll find something.
- 59:27SPEAKER_04: Well, at least we you know, all we need is a springboard.
- 59:30SPEAKER_04: True.
- 59:30SPEAKER_04: And we can go up.
- 59:32SPEAKER_04: Maybe maybe that'll be one of our episodes.
- 59:34SPEAKER_04: Somebody, somebody, somebody out there comes up with a topic and we'll talk about it for next.
- 59:39SPEAKER_04: That's what we'll do for the next episode.
- 59:40SPEAKER_04: Somebody reach out to us, give us a topic, and we'll talk about it.
- 59:44SPEAKER_06: We would probably we should probably put some more work into the social media thing.
- 59:48SPEAKER_06: Because I have social media?
- 59:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 59:50SPEAKER_06: I well, I just post the podcast.
- 59:52SPEAKER_06: I don't do anything like I don't interact because I don't have time.
- 59:55SPEAKER_06: But we could put a post out and say, hey, how about you uh you pick the topic for the next podcast?
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_04: Maybe we'll just we'll put that out to the world.
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_06: Let's do that.
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_04: You guys pick our next topic, next podcast topic.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_04: You just pick any any topic and we'll we'll pontificate on it.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_06: You can go on our Facebook page and and and and put it in as a comment.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_06: Or uh you can send it uh via messenger to us on Facebook.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_06: Um you can also send it to O'Brien and Doug at gmail.com.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_06: I never checked that site, but you know, you can still send it.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_04: Send it to Gmail.
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_04: We'll never check it.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_06: No, actually, I'll get like a notification.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_06: O'Brien and Douglas.
- 1:00:37SPEAKER_06: Oh, you will and Doug has a message.
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_04: First whatever?
- 1:00:42SPEAKER_00: You're kidding.
- 1:00:43SPEAKER_04: Gmail will be like, hey, you guys got a message.
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- 1:00:49SPEAKER_04: One million dollars.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_04: $37.
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- 1:00:55SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_04: He'll cover us.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 1:00:58SPEAKER_06: He's rich.
- 1:00:59SPEAKER_06: There you go.
- 1:00:59SPEAKER_06: That's episode 18.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_04: He's got 500 million now.
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_06: Uh that's gonna wrap it up.
- 1:01:03SPEAKER_06: So I'm O'Brien.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_06: I'm the other guy.
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_06: Bye, everybody.
- 1:01:09unknown: What?
- 1:01:10SPEAKER_04: That sounds like Gover Pyle.
- 1:01:12unknown: Go!
- 1:01:13SPEAKER_06: Why?
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_06: You know what I thought it sounded like.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_06: What?
- 1:01:16SPEAKER_06: I thought it sounded like um Steve Carell on The Office.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_06: Hi, everybody!
- 1:01:24SPEAKER_04: A prison mic!
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_06: Oh, shoot.
- 1:01:31SPEAKER_06: We'll talk to you next week.
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