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The Congressional Oversight Committee Releases The Epstein Related Bill Gates Transcript · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Over the past twenty four hours, the House
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  Speaker 1: Oversight Committee has released the transcript from their interview with
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  Speaker 1: Bill Gates and with Leslie Groff, and now that we
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  Speaker 1: have access to both of those transcripts, we'll get those
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  Speaker 1: added to the catalog as well. And my plan is
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  Speaker 1: to dive into the Bill Gates transcript as soon as
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  Speaker 1: we're done with Tovin O weel and we're pretty close
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  Speaker 1: to wrapping that one up. We don't have much further
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  Speaker 1: to go as far as that interview, so as soon
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  Speaker 1: as that one's done, we'll get started on the Bill
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  Speaker 1: Gates transcript and then after that we'll dive right into
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  Speaker 1: Leslie Groff. But before we dive into those transcripts, we
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  Speaker 1: have an article from CNN and the headline Gates says
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  Speaker 1: he didn't witness crimes, but may have been in the
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  Speaker 1: presence of Epstein victims. This article was authored by Annie
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  Speaker 1: Grayer and Olina Fayes. Billionaire Bill Gates testify that he
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  Speaker 1: never interacts did with victims of Jeffrey Epstein, but acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: that he may have been in their presence. According to
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  Speaker 1: a transcript of his closed door interview with the House
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  Speaker 1: Oversight Committee, released on Tuesday. Well, there's no doubt. If
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  Speaker 1: you're going to consider Sarah Kellen a victim, and you're
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  Speaker 1: going to consider Nadia Marsenkova a victim, then there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt that Bill Gates was in their presence and around them.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that doesn't mean that Bill Gates was partaking
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  Speaker 1: in the abuse, but it does mean that Bill Gates
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  Speaker 1: knew a lot more than he let on, and who
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  Speaker 1: knows what kind of information he had that could have
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  Speaker 1: been helpful to an investigation. You don't come forward the
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  Speaker 1: second a guy like that gets arrested, even if you
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  Speaker 1: make pretend you didn't know previously. He gets arrested in
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and you don't have your legal team reach
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  Speaker 1: out right away to the FBI and say, look, I
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  Speaker 1: had a relationship with him, but I didn't see anything crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to come in and talk to you guys
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  Speaker 1: and see if there's anything I need know that might
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  Speaker 1: help out. I mean, that would be the decent thing
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  Speaker 1: to do, right and I'm sure most people out there
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  Speaker 1: would do that. You find out, like you know, a
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  Speaker 1: coworker or a friend is under investigation or has been
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  Speaker 1: arrested for this kind of thing, and the first thing
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be thinking is what do I know?
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  Speaker 1: Did I ever see anything crazy? Can I help the investigation?
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  Speaker 1: But people like Bill Gates instead, he went the opposite direction, right,
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  Speaker 1: lied about it, tried to downplay it, tried to whitewash it.
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  Speaker 1: But this day and age, with how quickly everything moves,
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  Speaker 1: social media and otherwise very difficult to do. You can
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  Speaker 1: only hide things for so long, especially when you have
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  Speaker 1: all of this attention on the topic. And it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the main reasons that I have no remorse for
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  Speaker 1: these people. This isn't something that you know, just showed
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  Speaker 1: up and has become a problem for them. They've known
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  Speaker 1: about their relationships with Epstein for all these years, and
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  Speaker 1: the vast majority of these people lied about it. The
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft co founder maintained in the voluntary interview which took
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  Speaker 1: place on Capitol Hill earlier this month, that his three
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  Speaker 1: year relationship with a convicted sex offender was strictly professional
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  Speaker 1: and that he never witnessed or participated in any sexual misconduct.
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  Speaker 1: And again, look, there's no evidence of that. Nobody's making
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  Speaker 1: those allegations. The problem for Bill Gates is the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he lied about that relationship. So of course that
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  Speaker 1: makes people wonder what else are you lying about? And
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  Speaker 1: just because we don't have evidence of it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: something else didn't happen, Right, That's why we have to
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  Speaker 1: have an investigation. And when you get caught up with
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  Speaker 1: somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, don't come crying to me that
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  Speaker 1: you're swept up in some vast investigation where they're looking
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  Speaker 1: at your behavior and if you were engaging in any
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  Speaker 1: kind of abuse. Fellow Travelers and all but Democratic Representative
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  Speaker 1: Robert Garcia pointed that the panel's investigation has shown that
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  Speaker 1: some of Epstein's employees were also abused by the late financier,
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  Speaker 1: making it difficult for Gates to rule out that he
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  Speaker 1: was never around any of Epstein's victims. Well, that's true,
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  Speaker 1: and that goes for everybody. Now, the defense is going
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  Speaker 1: to be they didn't know, they had no idea what
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  Speaker 1: was going on. They thought they were just Jeffrey Epstein's assistants.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's no talk, right, there's no scuttle, but nobody
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  Speaker 1: has anything to say out of the side of their mouth.
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  Speaker 1: That's a very good point, said Gates, who acknowledged he
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  Speaker 1: saw some of Epstein's female employees at the end of
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  Speaker 1: a meeting on one of Epstein's planes. He added, I
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  Speaker 1: may have been in the presence of victims, not may
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  Speaker 1: have been. You were, And even if you just think
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  Speaker 1: that you were around people who were being trafficked, that's
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  Speaker 1: something that you should be telling the authorities. All right, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know then, but I know now, and this
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  Speaker 1: is what I saw, this is when I saw it,
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  Speaker 1: and this is where I saw it. But instead it
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  Speaker 1: has to be this whole entire circus, right Congress, etc.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Gates could have easily held a press conference years
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  Speaker 1: ago and cleaned this all up, or at the very
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  Speaker 1: least explained his relationship, but instead he justled and the
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  Speaker 1: legacy media, well they ran with it. Oh. Bill Gates
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  Speaker 1: is such a great guy. He's trying to cure malaria.
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  Speaker 1: He would never do something like that. It's a vast
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  Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy. Yeah, well guess what is it? Still
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  Speaker 1: a vast right wing conspiracy. As part of the Oversight
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  Speaker 1: Committee's ongoing probe, the Panels saught Gates testimony after the
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  Speaker 1: release of additional Epstein files by the Justice Department this
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  Speaker 1: year raised questions about his ties to the late convicted
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  Speaker 1: sex offender. Well, if you would have just paid attention
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  Speaker 1: years ago, when we all told you what was going
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  Speaker 1: going on, maybe Epstein would have been held to account,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the people that enabled them would have been called
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  Speaker 1: out onto the carpet. But everybody was way too busy
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  Speaker 1: when this story was breaking to actually give a damn.
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  Speaker 1: And we're not going to engage in any revisionist history
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  Speaker 1: here and give people credit for showing up late to
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  Speaker 1: the party. I mean, where were all these people out
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  Speaker 1: when Virginia was begging for people to listen to her.
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  Speaker 1: Where were all these big gigantic media outlets when the
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  Speaker 1: survivors were coming out telling their stories and being absolutely trashed.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is, this wasn't profitable back then, so they
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  Speaker 1: had no desire to report on it, and they also
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to out their buddies. I mean, remember what
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's own daughter said that some of our faves
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  Speaker 1: are going to be outed, And there's no doubt that
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  Speaker 1: some of the faves have been outed. The panel also
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday released the transcript of Epstein's longtime assistant Leslie Groff,
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  Speaker 1: who characterized her former boss as a master and manipulator,
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  Speaker 1: and said she did not know about his crimes. Groff
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  Speaker 1: revealed that she connected Epstein and President Donald Trump, then
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  Speaker 1: a private citizen, on the phone multiple times over a
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  Speaker 1: period of ten years, but said she did not know
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  Speaker 1: the content of those conversations. Trump has long denied any
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  Speaker 1: wrongdoing related to Epstein, as well as any allegations of
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  Speaker 1: sexual misconduct. Well, I'm sure he'll deny the phone calls too. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't happen. He called my office. I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to him. We were never friends. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the same old song and dance we get all the time.
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  Speaker 1: And then you'll have James Calmer coming out, drooling and
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  Speaker 1: just going along with whatever the president says. CNN has
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  Speaker 1: reached out to representatives for Gates and Graff for comment.
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  Speaker 1: In his interview, Gates laid out how Epstein attempted to
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  Speaker 1: use information about the Microsoft co founder's personal life, including
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  Speaker 1: that he had been unfaithful in his marriage, to pressure him. Yeah, blackmail,
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  Speaker 1: compromitt But I thought Cash Ptel said that didn't happen
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  Speaker 1: and none of that existed. Could it be that Cash
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  Speaker 1: Patel is lying? Could that possibly be the case. Now, look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not hip to the you know, ancient Scandinavian religion
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  Speaker 1: of a sartu or whatever it's called. But do you
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  Speaker 1: get to Valhalla if you're lying? I wonder how Odin
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  Speaker 1: feels about people that protect diddlers. My guess is they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have a date with Thores Hammer, That's my guess.
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  Speaker 1: But having the audacity to get up there and try
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  Speaker 1: and tell people that there was no blackmail, no compromont,
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  Speaker 1: that none of that occurred, is just straight up lunacy.
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  Speaker 1: After he cut ties with Epstein in twenty fourteen, Gates
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  Speaker 1: were called one instance in which Epstein emailed asking for
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  Speaker 1: reimbursement for expenses Epstein had paid for related to a
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  Speaker 1: woman Gate had an affair with. Why would Epstein be
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  Speaker 1: paying for those expenses? That seems like a good question
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  Speaker 1: to ask. No, Bill Gates can't front the bill short
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  Speaker 1: on dough. Uncle Funzelo is in town? Does he have
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  Speaker 1: short arms and deep pockets? What's going on? Why is
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  Speaker 1: it that Jeffrey Epstein's involved in any way when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Bill Gates's love life? These are very simple
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  Speaker 1: questions and we have no answers for them. And this testimony.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it really provides the answers that we're
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  Speaker 1: looking for. I communicated to my key person, top person
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  Speaker 1: at Gates Ventures, Larry Cohen, that we were never going
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  Speaker 1: to pay anything. Gates testified. Gates was introduced to Epstein
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eleven through one of his most trusted employees,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Boris Nikolic, whom Gates believes told Epstein about two
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  Speaker 1: of the extra marital affairs behind closed doors. Investigators press
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  Speaker 1: Gates about other potential affairs, arguing it was relevant to
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  Speaker 1: determine whether Gates had any other ties to the convicted
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  Speaker 1: sex offender, but Gates and his legal team pushed back, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a voluntary interview. Refer to the last episode and
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  Speaker 1: why the voluntary interviews and the whole process is a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of bs. The tech billionaire pointed specifically to the
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  Speaker 1: draft emails that Epstein appears to have written to himself
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  Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen that include a series of graphic, unverified
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  Speaker 1: allegations against Gates, and argued that Epstein would have mentioned
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  Speaker 1: other affairs there, or maybe not, maybe he was holding
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  Speaker 1: some back. You don't just launch your whole entire salvo
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  Speaker 1: right away, right do the Gruccies fire off all the
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  Speaker 1: fireworks at the beginning, or do that wait for the
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  Speaker 1: end and then launch everything in a grand finale. I
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  Speaker 1: think that Epstein, when he was writing emails to himself,
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  Speaker 1: took every potential negative thing he knew, and some that
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  Speaker 1: are completely false, and he put those into draft emails
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  Speaker 1: to himself. Gates said. And so I think if in
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  Speaker 1: some weird way he discovered anything negative to say about me,
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  Speaker 1: he would have seen that in the emails that he
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  Speaker 1: sent to himself. Yeah, I don't buy that. Nice excuse,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't buy it. Okay, Sorry, Billy boy Gates.
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  Speaker 1: In the stream of conscious notes riddled with typos and vitriol,
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  Speaker 1: which Gates has stated or false, Epstein appears to claim
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  Speaker 1: he facilitated sexual encounters four Gates and helped him obtain
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  Speaker 1: medication to hide and his sexually transmitted infection from his wife. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. Could it be for sure?
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  Speaker 1: I mean Bill Gates has the ability to keep that hidden.
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  Speaker 1: A few palms greased here, a few bags dropped off there,
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  Speaker 1: and everything's all good. In his closed door interview, Gates
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  Speaker 1: said that he never had an STD, but that it's possible.
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  Speaker 1: He communicated to Nikolch that he was worried that he
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  Speaker 1: might have had one. Oh boy, I bet who he
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  Speaker 1: had one. He probably had the clap or something. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you're out here and you're doing what he was
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  Speaker 1: doing allegedly with all these affairs, is it that big
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  Speaker 1: of Elipe? Upon meeting Epstein in twenty eleven, Gate said
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  Speaker 1: he was aware of the financier had a criminal conviction
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  Speaker 1: that was of a sexual nature, but still said he
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  Speaker 1: was interested in pursuing a professional relationship with Epstein, who
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  Speaker 1: claimed he could raise billions of dollars for global health.
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  Speaker 1: Ah well, you know, global health and all to help
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  Speaker 1: with the girls that were abused, to hell with the
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  Speaker 1: people that had their lives ruined, because you know, he
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  Speaker 1: can raise some money. To this day, Gate said he
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  Speaker 1: wishes he had not ignored Epstein's bad reputation in pursuit
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  Speaker 1: of philanthropic opportunity that never came to fruition. Even though
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  Speaker 1: Epstein tried to invite him to the island or social functions,
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  Speaker 1: Gates said he was conscious not to cross that threshold
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  Speaker 1: because of Epstein's criminal conviction. Oh well, I'll pander to
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  Speaker 1: him for some money. And I'll show up like a beggar,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to go to his island. Save it, okay,
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  Speaker 1: please save the bullshit. I have regret that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: factor that into a greater degree, Gates testified. Gates also
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  Speaker 1: said that he finds it confusing how Epstein was able
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  Speaker 1: to accumulate his wealth, and noted that Epstein's New York
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  Speaker 1: City apartment was one of the most spacious homes in
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan he has ever seen. Yeah, well, no shit, and
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  Speaker 1: we all know how he got his money. Stop. Can
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  Speaker 1: we just stop with the nonsense? Please dancing around the edges.
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  Speaker 1: This man gained all that money and kept it growing
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  Speaker 1: by laundering it, and not just for himself, for all
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  Speaker 1: of his buddies too. You know all these people that
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  Speaker 1: you want to have empathy for, Yeah, those people. Gates said.
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  Speaker 1: He also voluntarily cooperated with the Attorney General of the
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  Speaker 1: US Verse, Jann Islands, by sitting for an interview and
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  Speaker 1: providing some financial documents, though he did not specify when
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  Speaker 1: that was. During the Denise, George moved to try and
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  Speaker 1: get the sicco suit going, and that was in pursuit
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  Speaker 1: of that graft. Meanwhile, is one of the most notable
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  Speaker 1: members of the late financiers in her orbit to speak
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  Speaker 1: to Congress as part of his Epstein investigation. A ubiquitous
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  Speaker 1: assistant who helped manage every aspect of Epstein's life, from
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  Speaker 1: scheduling massages to appointments with women to meetings with powerful individuals,
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  Speaker 1: as evidenced in the Justice departments millions of Epstein files.
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  Speaker 1: But Graff's denials that she had any knowledge about Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: wrongdoing was immediately met with condemnation from survivors. And I
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  Speaker 1: agree with that too. Now, Leslie Groff, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: was engaging in abuse, but she enabled it. She was
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  Speaker 1: a co conspirator. And if she was setting up phone
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  Speaker 1: calls and she was, you know, providing logistics, then she's
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  Speaker 1: part of the regal operation. The whole entire point of
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  Speaker 1: RICO is to go after shit like this. Groff said
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  Speaker 1: she believed that everyone she scheduled Epstein for a massage
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  Speaker 1: was a massage therapist, and said that she considered it
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  Speaker 1: to be an independent contractor type of situation. Of course
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  Speaker 1: she did. What's she going to incriminate herself? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I knew I did it. Anyway, She testified that she
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  Speaker 1: stopped regularly booking these massage appointments for Epstein in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, when he served about a year in
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  Speaker 1: jail in Florida. But Democrats on the committee looked at
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  Speaker 1: poll holes in that assertion by pointing to other appointments
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  Speaker 1: after two thousand and eight that Grof booked for Epstein. Grof,
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  Speaker 1: in defense of booking appointments for Epstein even after his
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  Speaker 1: first incarceration, told lawmakers, I would not have known that
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  Speaker 1: this was a massage. I don't know. You're assuming that
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  Speaker 1: I would think it was a massage, but I did
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  Speaker 1: not think of it as a massage. I don't believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't believe it, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: a jury would either, honestly, So she had no idea,
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  Speaker 1: just a shrinking violet. Stop it. That is a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of nonsense. Leslie Groff knew, maybe not all of the
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  Speaker 1: granular details, but you would have to be very, very
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  Speaker 1: stupid to not understand what was going on. And I
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  Speaker 1: have a very hard time believing that narrative. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't believe it. You were around him so often,
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  Speaker 1: with so many people for so long, you knew or
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  Speaker 1: at the very least you have heard that some bad
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  Speaker 1: shit was going on, and you stayed. You continued to
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  Speaker 1: book massages, you continued to remain quiet, and you continued
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  Speaker 1: to look the other way. And we all know why.
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  Speaker 1: Financial benefit. That's why. So as far as Leslie Groff goes,
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  Speaker 1: I don't buy a thing she has to say. And
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  Speaker 1: Bill Gates, well, it was only a matter of time
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  Speaker 1: before he was outed as the liar he is because
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  Speaker 1: the facts were there. We have heard all these stories
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  Speaker 1: for years, but now we have the confirmation with the emails,
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  Speaker 1: and Bill Gates can no longer deny it. That is
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  Speaker 1: the only reason he's admitting it. In a perfect world
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  Speaker 1: for Bill Gates, he would have been able to continue
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  Speaker 1: to deny this until the end of time. But now
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  Speaker 1: that the files are there for everybody to see, now
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  Speaker 1: he has to change up the strategy. Right. Oh well,
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  Speaker 1: I knew, but I didn't know the full extent. And
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be the defense from all these people.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they're going to say. The question is are
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  Speaker 1: you buying it? All the information that goes with this
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