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I Am All In…Again: This Could Have Been a Divorce (Season 4 E9 “Ted Koppel’s Big Night Out”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh let's do.
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  Speaker 1: Hi. I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
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  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: one of them productions. iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcasts. We are
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  Speaker 1: here doing episode nine, Season four, Ted Copple's Big Night Out.
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  Speaker 1: We have a very special guest, Alan the Wise. He
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  Speaker 1: played Colin, one of Logan's friends from the Life and
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  Speaker 1: Death Brigade fifteen episodes and also in the Netflix revival
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  Speaker 1: as well. Welcome to Alan. We had John before for
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  Speaker 1: one interview twenty twenty three, so welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while. Good to see you again, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you. Air date I Remember eighteenth, two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and three. Richard at lunch introduces Rory in Paris
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  Speaker 1: to his old friend the Gilmoures going style, and that
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  Speaker 1: would be Ashra Fleming with about as unnerving a final
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  Speaker 1: scene as you can see the Gilmour's going style of
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  Speaker 1: the Harvard Yale football game and laurel Ize starts dating
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  Speaker 1: Jason out of spite for her mother. Directed by Jamie Babbitt,
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  Speaker 1: written by Amy Sherman Palladino. We get to meet your
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  Speaker 1: character Colin in season five? Did you like watching an
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  Speaker 1: episode before the Life and Death Brigade stormed in.
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  Speaker 2: I actually had watched a little bit of it, but
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't watched too much before we get we got
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  Speaker 2: into it because I feel like it was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of it felt like a shift with us for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: you know that, oh, there's these other guys in a
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  Speaker 2: different somebody for her to look forward to a different
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  Speaker 2: perspective of, like a different boyfriend. So it just felt
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  Speaker 2: like a shift at that point. I watched this episode
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  Speaker 2: last night just to kind of get caught up on
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  Speaker 2: what it was that we're gonna watch again or talk
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  Speaker 2: about today. And it's interesting to see the vibe was different.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like old back in Star's Hollow Rory versus
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  Speaker 2: there's kind of like a like a change, a shift
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  Speaker 2: in her later on. So well, but yeah, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see too much and I forgot I had totally forgotten
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  Speaker 2: about Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, all right, so we're at the
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  Speaker 1: Harvard game now, and I think, you know, we're coming
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  Speaker 1: off of what I describe as not my favorite episode
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  Speaker 1: this episode seven? What was nine?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not episode eight. I was not.
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  Speaker 1: Thrilled with that episode, So we're coming off of that
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  Speaker 1: into this, and I thought this was a much better episode.
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  Speaker 1: Richard's having lunch with Rory in Paris. He introduces them
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  Speaker 1: to Asher Fleming, you know, the great Michael Michael York.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they also.
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  Speaker 1: Mentioned the Harvard Yale game. He invites wherey to go.
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  Speaker 1: She accepts, and then later at Friday night dinner, Laura
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  Speaker 1: la I volunteers to go as well, and it's quite
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  Speaker 1: clear that Emily doesn't want her there, so now Laura
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  Speaker 1: I kind of forces the issue. She's invited. They have
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  Speaker 1: to disinvite somebody so Laura I can go at Yale.
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  Speaker 1: They salute and toast the statue of Dan Yale Mescot
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  Speaker 1: and then seeing the bulldog anthem all over Bloody Mary's
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  Speaker 1: and Richard sinks with the whiff and poofs and then
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  Speaker 1: and then penal and Lott shows up. Right, we see
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  Speaker 1: Emily and Richard eek happiness peak nostalgia Yale game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we've first time we've seen him this enthralled
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  Speaker 1: with one another.
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  Speaker 2: Also, like, also what kind of caught me off guard
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  Speaker 2: was the motor home that that was their motor home
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  Speaker 2: that they brought to the tailgate with their whole spread
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  Speaker 2: and all of the help there. That that was hilarious
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's how you roll, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Roll that money. But that Gilmour cash.
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  Speaker 1: Get the good parkies. And then uh, you know, things
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  Speaker 1: are going along swimmingly. We meet Marty, uh Richard, Emily
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  Speaker 1: meet Marty. They think he's a nice young man. And
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  Speaker 1: then Pendal and Lot shows up and we see the
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  Speaker 1: the X and you know what, thirty nine years of
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  Speaker 1: secret lunch dates.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a thing. That's got me off guard too.
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  Speaker 2: I said that that's not cod that's.
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  Speaker 1: Not's not gonna work. No, no, no, no, there's no excuse.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. These are those moments where you understand Emily,
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  Speaker 2: like with all of Emily's faults and everything in that
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  Speaker 2: moment here like she is one hundred right to be
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  Speaker 2: up that this could have been a divorce easily, easily.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that is the very definition of an emotional affair.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh. Without telling her for thirty nine years, we've
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  Speaker 2: been having lunch every year at a place that you've
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  Speaker 2: never been to. On top of that, that's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot that's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I'm thinking, what else went on?
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  Speaker 1: How could you not have a question that, How could
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  Speaker 1: you not think what happened after lunch?
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  Speaker 2: You didn't tell me about lunch, right, and that was
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  Speaker 2: just lunch thirty nine years, for thirty nine years. What
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  Speaker 2: you could have not told me about a lot of
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  Speaker 2: other stuff? A lot of other stuff? And he kind
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  Speaker 2: of just brushes it off, like, Okay, I'm just going
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  Speaker 2: to go for a walk and I'm in trouble. I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the doghouse.
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  Speaker 1: He got off so easy, so easy.
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  Speaker 2: So easy. I'm actually curious about the next episode if
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  Speaker 2: that lingers too.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's some hell to pay for sure. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot about that one. By the way, when I
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  Speaker 2: rewatched it just now, I forgot about that moment. I thought,
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  Speaker 2: holy crap, wait a second. This is one of those
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  Speaker 2: Emily moments where you know they're they're kind of leading
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  Speaker 2: up to it, and how she has like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this this moment with Laura Li talking to to her
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  Speaker 2: and and Emily catches them, you know, next to the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom line and all that. She's like tries so they
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  Speaker 2: are building up to this, you know, this blow.
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  Speaker 1: Up, but you know what he did that there is
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  Speaker 1: a split I do I remember? Yeah, there is. She
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  Speaker 1: he leaves, she demands that he leave because of this,
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  Speaker 1: because of this, I believe, yes. And she even starts dating.
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  Speaker 2: Apologies to the fans who know this inside and out
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  Speaker 2: better than Scott, and I remember these storylines. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you guys are like, of course, of course this
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  Speaker 2: is what splits them up or whatever. But to me,
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  Speaker 2: that that storyline, that little, that little I forgot about
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  Speaker 2: that one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She starts stating how Lindon Laurlay takes her to a
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  Speaker 1: bar like a jazz bar, right, and how Lindon smooths
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  Speaker 1: himself over it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, works, it works his way in Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hey, thirty nine years that's a pets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that would have hit me hard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a knockout blow right there.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And she's, you know, and she carries herself well,
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  Speaker 2: she looks you know, she's like a you know, she's
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  Speaker 2: a she's a nice looking woman and carries herself well.
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  Speaker 2: And he's having lunch with her once a year.
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  Speaker 1: This is a difficult woman to sympathize with yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we are so like one on her
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  Speaker 1: side with this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But then but then if she's so if she's so abrasive,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, obviously Emily is not checking a couple
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  Speaker 1: of Richard's boxes that that Richard needs, like his needs
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  Speaker 1: are not being met in some way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise he would he would not be doing this.
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  Speaker 2: It could have been a friendship, but he decided to
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  Speaker 2: not expose it that way as a friendship. Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's the X. It is the X. It's
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  Speaker 2: the high school sweetheart or college sweetheart, college college sweetheart.
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  Speaker 2: So it is the X. And the fact that he
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  Speaker 2: needs to have a conversation with her once a year
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  Speaker 2: to talk about things that Emily has know I clearly,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm in agreement with you. Where I think it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's got some conversations he wants to have that he
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  Speaker 2: can never have with Emily. You know, there's there's.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a long talk. That's a long loud talk.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and he could have avoided it, but you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: can you can you avoid that? Can you actually have
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  Speaker 2: a relationship with an X where you we're an ex
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  Speaker 2: from college that you're now married and you still have
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  Speaker 2: these conversations with these people I have. I have an
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  Speaker 2: ex from college that has moved on and has kids,
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  Speaker 2: and I did my best to not be so active
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  Speaker 2: on social media. But it's nice to see her raising
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  Speaker 2: her kids and all of that. Right, and now as
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  Speaker 2: years have gone on and whatnot, there's you know, some
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  Speaker 2: conversations here and there, and I'm friends with her husband,
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's a good thing. But we don't I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't even imagine about like going on to lunch with
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  Speaker 2: her without him knowing every year, like there's something on
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  Speaker 2: her end as well, you know, for that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Once she has her hoe down with Richard, then she
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  Speaker 1: can turn her anger and her rage to penel a
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  Speaker 1: lot because she's culpable.
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  Speaker 2: Is that she's the one.
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  Speaker 1: She's the one, and she's the one that should have
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  Speaker 1: said no, Richard, I can't do this. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: do this. She's married too, So it's like she's married too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he doesn't know about it. What was that like
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  Speaker 1: something about like he doesn't know about the place either
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  Speaker 1: or or she hasn't told.
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  Speaker 2: Him as well. That they they've been having these latches
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  Speaker 2: every every year.
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  Speaker 1: This reminds me. This reminds me of the Kathy Griffith
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  Speaker 1: comedy routine. I'll stab them, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: it's like Penel and watch out man.
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  Speaker 2: My mom, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a little personal here.
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  Speaker 2: My mom. Yeah, sent my dad's Norwegian girlfriend back home packing.
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  Speaker 2: She very nicely, she she got Wow, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: what they were still friendly somewhat, not not hanging out,
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  Speaker 2: not like this, They were still kind of friendly. She
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  Speaker 2: was she was, she was clinging, she was looking for
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  Speaker 2: my dad, and my mom was very nice with her
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  Speaker 2: and helped her get her papers and everything in and
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  Speaker 2: arranged and helped her packed and sent her back home.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how you do it. You got to get
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  Speaker 2: out of the picture, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So this begs the question, right, you're dating somebody, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's not brand new. But things are
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  Speaker 1: really good, things are going really strong. It's maybe six
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  Speaker 1: months a year in whatever you're going. You know, you're
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  Speaker 1: you're you're an idol. Yeah, but there's this guy hanging
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  Speaker 1: around her, her male friend. You don't like it, right, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you tell her like, hey, I want him gone. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable with this. What do you think her
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  Speaker 1: move should be.
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody should should kind of accept that. I
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  Speaker 2: really do, unless it's somebody that is, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: if there's a real talkic of what we're talking about. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we have conversations about X, Y, and Z. You have
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  Speaker 2: zero interest in those things? You know? You know that
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested in those things. I don't. That's that feels
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  Speaker 2: like that feels like the closest thing to a conversation
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  Speaker 2: to make that work. But I don't know if it works.
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  Speaker 2: I don't work.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. You're in that situation,
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  Speaker 1: she says to you, Hey, that's a good friend of mine,
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  Speaker 1: So no, do you walk?
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's like a custom. I think it
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  Speaker 2: depends on every circumstance of that person. Does that person
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  Speaker 2: come and hang out with us, you know, with other
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  Speaker 2: friends as a group of friends.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, you're not comfortable with it. Oh yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with it. It makes you uncomfortable. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a reason for it, right, You don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it is, but you're uncomfortable with it. She says, I'm
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  Speaker 1: choosing him over you. I can have you and I
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  Speaker 1: can have my friend, but I'm not telling him to
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  Speaker 1: f off. What do you do?
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  Speaker 2: Are you going?
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  Speaker 1: Do you walk?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go back to that. I want to let that
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  Speaker 1: per I'm gonna you marinate that.
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  Speaker 2: What would you do, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: Walk?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I probably would. I probably would, because it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's just going to be leinging, lingering in like
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  Speaker 2: my mind the whole time of Like, yeah, it's I
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  Speaker 2: think there's a pincher play called Poison or something like
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  Speaker 2: that where it's like, you know, where as soon as
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of poison enters that relationship, it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to get it out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so true, It's so true. All right, Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: deal with Luke's issue here with this Brennan character kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny, really like this, this, this is really funny.
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  Speaker 1: Luke's in a great mood, and it's really throwing the
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  Speaker 1: Lorelais off a little bit. It's pumping cinnamon pancakes. Is
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  Speaker 1: his apple cinnamon butter. He finally hired some help, so
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  Speaker 1: he's he's he's whistling Dixie man. Uh Lane finds out,
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  Speaker 1: and she's a little perturbed and expresses that m she.
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  Speaker 2: Would have been a way better employee, right for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But Luke walks by Weston's and there's this massive line
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  Speaker 1: of his customers. They tell him, why get rid of Brennan.
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  Speaker 1: He look, he says, just give it. You know, Luke's
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  Speaker 1: just being a good guy, right. He doesn't, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get it. He's got blinders on.
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  Speaker 2: He's so happy.
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  Speaker 1: And then he turns to see, uh, after defending Brennan,
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  Speaker 1: he turns to see what Brennan is doing in the
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  Speaker 1: diner and he's doing a little air guitar routine on
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  Speaker 1: top of some of the tables when he should be
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  Speaker 1: cleaning up.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he was like limp biscuit or something.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it was it says here olympis yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then he and then he goes then he goes
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  Speaker 1: to fire him. So that that was it for for
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  Speaker 1: dear old Brennan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that dude needed to go immediately though, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the I think that the pet peeve of the
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  Speaker 2: amy really captured the pet peeve of you're not writing
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  Speaker 2: it down, You're gonna screw my order, Like what the
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  Speaker 2: hell you like stop it like I got it, I
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  Speaker 2: got it, I got it all right here, man, damn it.
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  Speaker 2: There's too many things that I have on my list.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're gonna screw it up. It's that it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those. And that's like that was that was
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  Speaker 2: a perfect moment for that. And of course he does
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  Speaker 2: screw it up.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is like you know, people getting dumped totally.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how do you do that too?
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  Speaker 1: This Luke is Emily, you know, and and and and
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  Speaker 1: Brennan is pendlu Lot. I don't know, maybe Luke is Richard.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta let him go. You gotta let him go.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta let him go.
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  Speaker 1: So all of that was great. I thought all of
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  Speaker 1: that was really funny, really entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good episode.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a really strong episode, isn't.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good episode. And Asher's introduction to to Liz's
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  Speaker 2: character is great, just hysterical, it's so funny. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: she's great, she's always so so darn good. So just
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  Speaker 2: the setup of like you came on way too strong.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Rory's line is she's like I should
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  Speaker 2: have led with me being a fan. It's like you
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be you, and it's just because you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: you if you did that. It's perfect, perfect with that
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  Speaker 2: great ending between them.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I so cringe at the whole Jason vibe
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  Speaker 1: with Laura. I but I really enjoyed this sequence, and
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  Speaker 1: it was because Jason was. I enjoyed it because Jason
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  Speaker 1: was screwing it up and I'm like, good, right, But
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  Speaker 1: then but then he recovered, and I like how he recovered,
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  Speaker 1: and I like how they ended up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the supermarket date.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've seen this before. We've seen this
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  Speaker 1: before in film after film after film, the date that
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  Speaker 1: goes wrong and they end up at the supermarket, eating
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  Speaker 1: supermarket sushi and this kind of thing, but.
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  Speaker 2: Really getting along.
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  Speaker 1: So but I like how they did this. It really
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  Speaker 1: it really works out. And his I was so bothered
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  Speaker 1: by his his creepy message on her answering machine at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of this episode. I was just like, God,
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  Speaker 1: just turn the sound off. I don't want to hear
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  Speaker 1: the same Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that demanding for like I've always thought, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it makes a good makes a good device in
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  Speaker 2: the show or a movie, like in real life, like
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  Speaker 2: wear black dress. I'm gonna be there at eight. I
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  Speaker 2: understand people want you to make choices in all of that,
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  Speaker 2: but you're right, there's something a little a little too much.
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  Speaker 2: She was, but she had rejected.
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  Speaker 1: She'd rejected the guy a couple of times. And he's
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  Speaker 1: like making demanding things on her phone, like if you're
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  Speaker 1: getting a good vibe and things are are you know,
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  Speaker 1: the butterflies are and everybody's and it's going, well, there's
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  Speaker 1: no rejection. That's when you do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the it's the he doesn't really take the
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  Speaker 2: no yet, does he. Right, it's like take the freaking
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  Speaker 2: know yeah, man, like like feel the room. Like she's saying, like,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you're too close to my kind of world, you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the Gilmore world, And and she says, you understand what
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, No, not really anyways.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to annoy you into submission.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Anyways then, so I don't understand. I'm going to just
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: keep trying. It's like, yeah, it's like come on, man, stop,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: please stop it. Yeah, but it works. You know it
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: works because you know it's wrote it to work, you know, right, right.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Right right?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: There is something about him where I was like, wait,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: this isn't Luke, and I'm I don't. I don't like this.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Somebody make it stop. You could hear the voice though,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: there is a voice in his character that is, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the Gilmore voice of like, you know, the the hey,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: we've got to do this thing, and making shopping for
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: regular items something urgent and and interesting in all of that.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, that's that's like a Gilmore
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: character kind of kicking into high gear. And he's a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: nice guy. He is nice enough afterwards after that phone
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: call for and you know, he's trying, you know, he's
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: at least trying to, you know, appease her when they
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: go to the drive through and she doesn't want that
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and all that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Right what what what I liked about him was that
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: he knew that he was out of his league and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: he just he just kept swinging. You know, it's like,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: screw man, I'm going for brokeres, So you got to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: My best option right here. You know. Yeah, it's like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: she doesn't know it yet. It's one of those.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But this, this whole storyline is really putting her up
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: on a pedestal, as I think they should, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: because it really puts the spotlight on her and what
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a prize she truly is, and how nuts this guy
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: is going to just to get a date. You know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I like it. I mean I overall I like it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I do like it. It's it's very fun, it's very entertaining.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: But her her reaction in the restaurant, that's as awkward
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: as it gets. And that's when most guys, that's when
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: most guys are like, you know, I'm out. This is
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: like I went to all this trouble and it's like
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: she hates the room. She's high maintenance, Like who needs this?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Like a player isn't going to deal with that. A
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: player is going to move on, right, Yeah, but that
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you know, some weenie guy like that, Right, he's going
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to keep he's going to keep fighting, and he's gonna win.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: And like, you know, her, her intentions of going out
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: with him are less about him, and he's all about her, right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: He's trying to make you know, he likes her, he
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: wants to make it about her, so his intentions are
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: actually a little more more pure versus hers. Is a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: reaction to the fight with her mom, you know, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: getting out of the Yale game and getting away from
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that and like, you know what, maybe I do need
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to go on this date with this guy, right, you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Know, but what does he care?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: It's an opportun Oh yeah, no, this is all.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: He's going to the big leagues because five Pictures got
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in a car accident. And he's like, damn, that's unfortunate.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But geez, I'm gonna get a shot.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: But I'm pitching. Yeah, but I'm pitching.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm here. Yeah, I'm in the uniform. Man, I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: got caught.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And she smiled at this, and she's actually kind of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: responding to my, my, my, you know, my working working
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it out of like okay, we got to get out
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: of this restaurant. Let's let's do that, right, fine, So
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you know, she's she's sensing like, okay, there's there's good here. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's a fun episode. It is.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's a really fun episode. And I'm kind of rooting
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: for him at this point because it's just too entertaining
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: for words.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: She's got those funny things about she's got the Laura
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Lized stuff too. On top of that, where it's like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you know, you do want to root for a guy
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: that can figure her out, because there is a there
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: there are parts of it where it's like, Okay, she's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: in the drive through. He doesn't want to order. She
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: wants to order. She wants to go. Now it's a thing.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: He won't even eat drive through tacos.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, man, what's your problem? She says. She doesn't
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: like that, so she doesn't want to eat alone. It's like, okay,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: let's get you know, so there is like this.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I don't blame her. I don't blame her. It's like
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: she was like she was done at that point, Like, dude,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you're such a drip. You put us in a freaking
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: room this hot ass restaurant. Ted Copple in the other room,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and we're sitting in here. I'm sitting here with you.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You're the entertainment. No, I'm regesting. I'm on. So it
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is like this is a mercy date. Bro, don't you
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: understand what this is?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, let's just have fun right now.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I want to get a taco. He won't do anything,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you know. Oh god, he's just blowing it eight ways
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a Sunday. And he ends up like just hanging in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: there and.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Then hanging in there, and then she and then she
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: does like real stuff that she ends up connecting with
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you know, going to the supermarket.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It's like he's getting shelled, right. He gives up like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: three straight home runs in the first inning and his
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: big it's like, I'm still he ended up with the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: supermarket and settles down. It all kind of settles down
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: really funny.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: How long how long does this relationship last after this?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Do you remember?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think for a decent stretch. They
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: go on a couple of dream dates. As I recall,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: there's some dream dates coming up. Like he really tries.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: He just goes over the top. Yeah, he he's like,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know, if there's any hint of god, what do
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: they call him, uh, the fearful or dismissive avoidance, If
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: there's any hint of that in her? He ain't playing
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it right, man.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: He's just like it's too much.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: He's going above and beyond. Is laurel Ion grateful? He
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: kind of should be. It's not like it's his job
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to make her so she has fun. I mean that's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the way she made at the time. And the drive through, Yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it's like what we're on would be fun. This isn't fun,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and this you're not making it fun. And it's like, bro,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta make it fun. That's the first date.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: First date the sound designer in the room in the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: restaurant was like the hilarious for me, Like the door
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: opens and you hear the screaming and all the fun
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: happening outside and then the door closing like silence. Love that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Love that That's perfect, And she's and she's like looking
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in her chair like, oh, I'm gonna go look at that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really good. Anyway, I really enjoyed this episode.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Big thumbs up for this.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good one.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Alan, real quick, since we're kind of coming down to it,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: what do you what are you up to now?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I'm working with my friend Jesse Miller. She's a writer.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: We went to cal Arts together for theater and she
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: wrote a play called onion Heads, which is about the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: dust Bowl and she ended up winning some awards for
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: that and got published in Samuel French for that play
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: while we while we're at school. So we're adapting that one.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: That's a really hard one to cast. Were we got
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to find some like you know, college oscar bound hopeful
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: kind of actors for it's really hard hitting piece. Totally. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: it's super easy to find not at all. Yeah, that's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: like a whole college you know, cross country, nationwide college
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: pasting kind of situation. So we're doing that, and then
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: she's also writing another one for us to be in
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: where she's she plays a librarian and I play like
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a security guard for this small town that's guarding this
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: prized copy of Moby Dick and somebody steals it. It's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: kind of like a cool little indie about that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, great, Well, good luck with all that. That
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: sounds fascinating. Good luck with your search for the next
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Marlon Brando, and good luck on the indie film. We'll
• 26:09
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• 26:14
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