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Will ANT lead the Wolves to the Finals? ECF/WCF Predictions ! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: one on nine of the so called Sports Channelists. Josh,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. You know, Spurs got a big
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  Speaker 2: pick in the draft lottery. I know it's been a
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  Speaker 2: while since I've been on a pod, probably like a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. So, honestly, which is the weird thing?
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  Speaker 2: Weird to actually think about, but I haven't been able
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  Speaker 2: to get my thoughts on that. I'm pretty excited about
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  Speaker 2: what our offseason is gonna hold, whatever direction we go in,
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  Speaker 2: and just I don't know. This playoffs has been pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 3: We have.
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  Speaker 2: A renewal of the Knicks versus Pacers, and then we
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  Speaker 2: see the Thunder versus timberrules on the other side, and
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, But before we get into it,
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  Speaker 1: but like Josh was saying, because I know I'll record
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  Speaker 1: solo pod, but I kind of want to bring this
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  Speaker 1: back up. We kind of want to bring this back up.
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  Speaker 1: The draft lottery that happened. Josh mentioned it, so again,
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  Speaker 1: this draft lottery Dallas is one, Spurs two six or
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  Speaker 1: three Hornets four, Utah five, Washington six, Pelican seven, Brooklyn eight,
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  Speaker 1: Toronto nine, Houston ten, Portland eleven, Chicago twelve, Atlanta thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: and the Spurs once again with the fourteenth overall pick. So,
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  Speaker 1: Josh just initial thoughts, initial thoughts from just this draft
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  Speaker 1: lottery right here.
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  Speaker 2: Initial thoughts on the lottery is like damn, Like the
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  Speaker 2: top three teams that sucked all season just didn't even
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  Speaker 2: weren't even in the picture at the end. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Hornets were right there. They ended up with the
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  Speaker 2: fourth pick, and then we see the Mavericks ultimately get
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  Speaker 2: the first and Spurs second, and then the philad w
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  Speaker 2: seventy six or third, which was possibly the best three
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  Speaker 2: of those are We're probably in the entire draft lottery
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  Speaker 2: where the best possible situations that Cooper fag probably.
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  Speaker 3: Could have went to.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't favor Philadelphia seventy six ers on
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  Speaker 2: his side, but for sure for the Mavericks and the Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: I think both fits would have been perfect for him
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  Speaker 2: and the Mavericks. I think probably ultimately being the best one,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with them already proven players around him, like
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  Speaker 2: a Klay Thompson immediately, and then even in Anthony Davis immediately.
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  Speaker 2: It's just kind of weird how that works out. I
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  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of like rigged speculation. I don't
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  Speaker 2: buy into all of that. I just don't like watching
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  Speaker 2: the game in that kind of mindset. I like enjoying
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  Speaker 2: it for what it is and just them ultimately walking
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  Speaker 2: away with that With the pick of Cooper Flag, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's going to be really big for the Dallas
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  Speaker 2: Mavericks moving forward. I think a lot of people looked
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  Speaker 2: at their future because they don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: draft capital, they don't have a lot of younger players
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  Speaker 2: on their roster, a lot of expiring contracts. Guys you
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  Speaker 2: have to resign, like a PJ. Washington, Kyrie Irving even
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  Speaker 2: I think getting Cooper Flagg, especially pairing him with Kyrie,
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  Speaker 2: who I think will resign but will ultimately take a
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  Speaker 2: pay cut in your run due to his injury, and
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  Speaker 2: then Anthony David. It's going to add that that extra three,
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  Speaker 2: that extra two way player that they probably need, especially
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  Speaker 2: a big defender like Super flag is who bar Nunn
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  Speaker 2: I believe is going to be All defensive player for
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  Speaker 2: years to come, especially I think next year in year one,
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  Speaker 2: he can make an All defensive team. Six foot ten,
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  Speaker 2: seven foot on wingspan, I think that's the makings of
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  Speaker 2: a great defender in the NBA, especially with his athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: They need that type of player, especially pairing him up
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  Speaker 2: with Derek Lively as well. So they're already gonna have
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  Speaker 2: one of the best defensive groups in the entire NBA.
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  Speaker 2: Just a matter of what he can do offensively in
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  Speaker 2: year one, maybe around seventeen points per game. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be very much needed for the Dallas Mavericks
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  Speaker 2: moving forward. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, And then the biggest thing that we brought up
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  Speaker 1: is at can you be a number one score on
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  Speaker 1: a team? That was his biggest concern.
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  Speaker 3: He can develop now into one.
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  Speaker 1: He could develop into win And I think the biggest
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  Speaker 1: comp still, Josh. I know we talked about yesterday, what's
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  Speaker 1: his floor? I still can't think of really a floor
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  Speaker 1: for him because defensively all there, Like you kind of
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  Speaker 1: knew with wimb with Chet and now with Cooper Flag.
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  Speaker 1: You just know that defense is going to be there
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  Speaker 1: in this modern day and age. He has a rent
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  Speaker 1: protection and he could guard out on the perimeter through
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  Speaker 1: So I just think that I don't know, defensively, he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one of the best players the next ten
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  Speaker 1: to fifteen years. But offensively, that's that's just the biggest
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  Speaker 1: thing in Jason Tatum. That's that's what it is. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, I'll say this since we're since it's a floor,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say his floor is Draymond Green. That's like if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't develop as a scorer at all.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he's way more athletic than Draymond Green,
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  Speaker 2: which is the thing. So it's like, I don't even
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  Speaker 2: think that's a good comparison.
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  Speaker 3: Like I feel like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of like, defensively he he excels,
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  Speaker 1: and then offensively, like Draymond's one of the best playmits.
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  Speaker 2: I think he could be better than Draymond offensively no
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  Speaker 2: matter what.
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  Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so too. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying, like bar none worst case scenario, But I
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  Speaker 1: want to ask Pascal.
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  Speaker 3: That I think that's a floor right there. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a good floor.
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  Speaker 1: That might be a good one right there. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: might be a good one. No, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: ask you this. So with the MAVs, now that you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna let's be real, they're gonna draft Cooper.
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  Speaker 3: Flag Yeah, now they have questions about it.
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  Speaker 1: Now they have Daniel Gafford and they have Derek Lively.
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  Speaker 1: So would you let go obviously Daniel gaffer He looks like.
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  Speaker 3: That Daniel gaff Man. Now if it's gonna be anyone,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think.
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  Speaker 2: They believe in Derek Lively quite a bit, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he is the better player overall.
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Gafford.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, though, if he goes to a contender,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna be a really huge asset, like let's say
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  Speaker 2: the Lakers at the Lake. But I don't think the
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  Speaker 2: Mavers make another move with the Lakers anytime soon. But
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  Speaker 2: if he were to move to the like, if he
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  Speaker 2: were to move to a team with a much needed center,
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  Speaker 2: center and defensive help, it would definitely be like a
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  Speaker 2: team like the Lakers, or even like just another contending
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  Speaker 2: team that's looking to add an asset in their starting lineup.
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  Speaker 2: He would definitely be a huge piece for them. He's
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  Speaker 2: a really good player. It's just when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the hindsight into the future, how is your team going
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  Speaker 2: to work in the direction you want to go. You
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  Speaker 2: definitely want to keep your younger blue chip players like
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  Speaker 2: Derek Clively, who I don't think he's that a blue
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  Speaker 2: chip prospect per se, but he's definitely a much need,
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  Speaker 2: a much needed player for your kind of rebuild after
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  Speaker 2: the Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis era ends in about
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  Speaker 2: one to two In about one to two three years,
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  Speaker 2: you have those type of guys with Derek Clively and
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  Speaker 2: Cooper Flag and you can build around those two. And
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  Speaker 2: then obviously Anthony Davis is going to stay and Kyrie
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  Speaker 2: Irving is going to continue to get healthy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one more question here, just revision this history after
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  Speaker 1: the whole Luka Dancis trade and everything. So now do
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  Speaker 1: you think that the Mavericks next year are going to
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  Speaker 1: be contenders for sure? Even though Kyrie Irving probably won't
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  Speaker 1: be back till February March. Is Anthony Davis I know
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  Speaker 1: he has health concerns, but are they back for sure
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  Speaker 1: in title contention next year.
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  Speaker 2: I think for I don't know about title contention. I
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  Speaker 2: won't say that too definitively, but I think definitely a
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  Speaker 2: playoff team, top six team in the in the in
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  Speaker 2: the Western Conference, I will.
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  Speaker 3: Give them that.
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  Speaker 2: I just think they need to go out and target
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  Speaker 2: a point guard to hold it down for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe with this type of offense that you're
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have, with a lot of guys that can shoot,
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  Speaker 2: guys that can run the court, I think they need
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  Speaker 2: a player that can also do that if he can
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  Speaker 2: stay healthy. Maybe a Lonzo Ball could be a person
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  Speaker 2: that they target next year for to do that, to
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  Speaker 2: be like a running gun type of player for them
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  Speaker 2: that can run the offense, play great defensively. The only
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  Speaker 2: thing that the question mark with Lonzo Ball is health.
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  Speaker 2: Health is the biggest question mark with him. Wh you're
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  Speaker 2: already dealing with that with your own point guard. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe another player could be like a Tias Jones, who
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  Speaker 2: can who does play good, who has really good high
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  Speaker 2: efficiency when it comes to shooting, can't run an offense,
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  Speaker 2: or even Trade Jones. You know, you can bring in
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  Speaker 2: those type of players that can maybe run your run,
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  Speaker 2: your offense. And but we also can't forget that Spencer
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  Speaker 2: Dinwiddie is there at this time, so he can also
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  Speaker 2: hold it down as well. I just think they need
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  Speaker 2: to bring in another point guard that can kind of
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  Speaker 2: step in when needed to make big plays for this team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, yah know for sure. Or I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: something along the lines of maybe Cooper Flag. He is
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  Speaker 1: for him being a rookie, he's a really great pass.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I'm thinking maybe that. Or there's Fred
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  Speaker 1: van Vliet, there's Yeah, there's James Harden, There's there's those.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just listing all these guys. There's a Dennis Schroeder
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  Speaker 1: out there. There's Chris Paul. I don't know if he'd go.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's different names. Maybe not the star power,
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  Speaker 1: but there's definitely his name. But all right, I know
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  Speaker 1: you've been waiting to talk about this. And right here,
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  Speaker 1: so the San Antonio Spurs they have the number two
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  Speaker 1: pick right here, and okay, two separate questions right here,
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  Speaker 1: So if the Spurs keep the second overall pick, first,
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  Speaker 1: who do you want? And the other question is, if
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  Speaker 1: they trade that pickaway, who would you want it to
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  Speaker 1: be for? And why so.
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  Speaker 2: If I if I was looking at it from like
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  Speaker 2: right after the draft, I was thinking a'ce Bailey, probably
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  Speaker 2: just because of fit. You know, six foot seven. We
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  Speaker 2: need a small forward, we need someone that can create shots.
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  Speaker 2: But defensively he lacks a lot. But after doing like
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  Speaker 2: deeper research and into like who I would want, it
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  Speaker 2: would definitely be Dylan Harper.
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  Speaker 3: Without a doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I think Dylan Harper is the better player of the two.
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  Speaker 2: If a matter of fact, if it wasn't for Cooper Flag,
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  Speaker 2: he'd be the number one draft pick in the last
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  Speaker 2: two classes.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: Truly believe that he has a good shooting form. It
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  Speaker 2: can be developed. He has a good form when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to shooting. He's not great in efficiency, but he
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  Speaker 2: can definitely develop into being a good shooter that we've
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  Speaker 2: seen kind of what Stephan Castle developed towards the end
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  Speaker 2: of the season last year. The beginning he was shooting
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  Speaker 2: around I believe, twenty eight percent from three. Then towards
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season he improved at thirty seven
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  Speaker 2: thirty eight. I think that's really great improvement. We can
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  Speaker 2: see that kind of jump from Dylan Harper towards to
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  Speaker 2: start the season because I think he's already a better
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  Speaker 2: shooter than Stefan Castle was to enter the NBA. I
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  Speaker 2: think he can definitely develop into closer to a thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight thirty nine percent three point shooter for the season.
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  Speaker 2: And if we get that type of player in param
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  Speaker 2: alongside Stefan Castle and Daron Fox where they were. We
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  Speaker 2: both seen Dylan Harper himself say that the NBA is
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  Speaker 2: more of.
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  Speaker 3: A of a.
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  Speaker 2: Not a positionless basketball type of league now and it
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  Speaker 2: is true. And also if we look at his stats
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  Speaker 2: at Rutgers, he's one of the better off ball players
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  Speaker 2: in the entire in the entirety of college basketball, where
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  Speaker 2: he can run around and kind of create opportunities for
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  Speaker 2: himself in that way as well. I would love to
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  Speaker 2: see the Spurs draft him and add another blue chip
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  Speaker 2: prospect to already Stefan Castle and Victor Winmbinamo that we
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  Speaker 2: can build forward for the future. I understand we have
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  Speaker 2: Daron Fox, but if we make this move, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even think we have to resign Dearon Fox, which is
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  Speaker 2: the thing. Darren Fox can help us go for a
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  Speaker 2: run this season alone, or we can even sign and
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  Speaker 2: trade and bring in some ass sets for Daron Fox,
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  Speaker 2: because there is still a market for Darreon Fox.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get this wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So I think a lot of things that made a
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  Speaker 2: difficult for a lot of teams last year was that
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  Speaker 2: he was on an expiring contract to where you know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of teams don't want to take that risk.
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  Speaker 2: And right now we can do a sign in trade,
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  Speaker 2: not this year, but possibly next year where we can
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  Speaker 2: kind of move him off the books and bring in
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  Speaker 2: some draft assets or even a.
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  Speaker 3: Ford or a three and D player that we much need.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as like my thoughts on the hindsight
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  Speaker 2: with also regarding trade trade opportunities, I think this sets
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  Speaker 2: up the Spurs to have one of the better off
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  Speaker 2: seasons of any team in the entire NBA. If we're
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  Speaker 2: being completely honest, they still have all their young, young players.
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  Speaker 3: I think we make this move. Devin Facelle's for sure gone.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to say, I love Devin Fasel, but when
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  Speaker 2: you bring another a guard, especially a guard that immediately
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  Speaker 2: has higher upside than he does, you kind of want
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  Speaker 2: to move off of that player, especially on a contract
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  Speaker 2: where you're gonna be paying around thirty two million. I
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  Speaker 2: believe within the next couple of years. And so if
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  Speaker 2: if we were to trade this pick, I think you
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  Speaker 2: only trade this pick for one guy and one guy only,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Giannis and to Takumbo, and I really don't
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  Speaker 2: want to move this pick for anyone else. If we're
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  Speaker 2: being completely on it, I don't think anyone on the
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  Speaker 2: trademarket right now is worth that kind of opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Durant and his age.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's more likely moving a contract off the
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  Speaker 2: books of the Phoenix Suns and matching contract offers. Let's
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  Speaker 2: say with like Harrison Barnes, Kelden Johnson, and Devin Sell,
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  Speaker 2: and then we can throw in our fourteenth overall pick,
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  Speaker 2: along with maybe two other first round picks or just
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  Speaker 2: one first round picks, and I think that's enough. Just
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  Speaker 2: go get Kevin Durant, and I think that's the move
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  Speaker 2: that the Spurs are gonna try making. And then, as
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  Speaker 2: far as honest, Jannis is the big one, honest, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna move the number two or Stephan Castle.
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  Speaker 3: I think this gives us the opportunity to pick. Though.
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  Speaker 2: If we're gonna move for Giannis, you you're either getting
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  Speaker 2: Steph or you're getting the number two overall pick no,
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  Speaker 2: not both. I think that's that's really what it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: You have because I think both hold carry heavyweight heading
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  Speaker 2: into that discussion. If thisasly the do the Bucks go
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  Speaker 2: look at the prospect of Dylan Harper or what they've
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  Speaker 2: seen in Stephan Castle, and they pick between those two
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  Speaker 2: as the headliner of the package, then you include players
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  Speaker 2: like Jeremy Sohan, Keldon Johnson, multiple first round picks from
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  Speaker 2: other teams, because if you're trading honest to us, obviously
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  Speaker 2: we're no longer going to be a bottom of the
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  Speaker 2: barrel team. We're gonna be one of the top teams
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  Speaker 2: in the entire Western Conference. And with Jannis Perils Wimby,
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  Speaker 2: so definitely you're going to have to You're definitely gonna
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  Speaker 2: receive a big package with the number two or Steph,
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  Speaker 2: with Keldon, Jeremy Sohan, Devin Vitsel maybe and then multiple
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  Speaker 2: first round picks.
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  Speaker 1: I had a question for you, Josh, so this is
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  Speaker 1: just hypothetical here because after what the GM, he pretty
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  Speaker 1: much said he's gonna cut out the entire team on
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  Speaker 1: or unless it's just two crazy pieces. What if as is,
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  Speaker 1: let's just say, let's just play hypothetical here. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if the Spurs they have this, even the salary
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  Speaker 1: cap to make this match Stefan Casto and number two.
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  Speaker 1: That's it for Giannis. No no other trade package at all.
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  Speaker 1: So you're basically basically a two for one and it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. It makes sense for them too, They're not
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  Speaker 1: crazy assets. Again, this is fantasy Land. Knows no salary cap.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know the salary cap. If I could make that move,
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  Speaker 3: would I do it? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I would. I think I would, because we we would
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  Speaker 2: have darreon Fox. That wouldultimately lead to us. We would
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  Speaker 2: immediately become an old team. Not know we wouldn't. We
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  Speaker 2: would still have our young guys around, But I think
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  Speaker 2: honestly that would fit into our offense very well, in.
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  Speaker 3: Our defense especially.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are kind of I
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  Speaker 2: don't people think are realizing the fact of defensively what
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  Speaker 2: a team of Victor Womnyama and Yannis would be to
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  Speaker 2: the entire NBA and especially rebounding. Rebounding would be insane.
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  Speaker 2: With these two, we would dominate the boards and dominate
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  Speaker 2: defensively because.
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  Speaker 3: Where y where.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say we trade for another player like I've seen
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people like say like a Nick Claxton
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  Speaker 2: or like even Christops Persingis or players along those lines
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: to kind of bring in those would not work. They
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: would work, but Victorioumnyama would have to would kind of
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: move away from his traditional anchor on the defensive end
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: within the paint, where Giannis can roam alongside the perimeter
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: or reguard the second the next best the best perimeter
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: player on the other team and allow him to kind
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: of roam around the paint like he has been doing.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: That would be scary for TEA because you would get
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: the two best defenders bar none, no argument in the
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: entire NBA on the same basketball team. And then offensively
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you would be able to put Victor winmbin Yama on
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: the perimeter and just let Giannis go to work inside
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: the paint.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: It would just be too hard.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: It would be like bo Lopez on steroids when Brooke
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Lopez was healthy and playing very great basketball outside of
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: this year. That would be Briock Lopez on absolute like
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: super Nova with Victor Winbinyama on the outside, and it
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: would be it would be really I think it would
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: be unstoppable on both sides of the court for both teams.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I would just hate to see Stephan Castle gole in
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: the opportunity of drafting Dalean Harper. But if we get
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to keep Devin Facell, put Jeremy Sohan maybe at the three,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: or have him coming off of the bench with Keldon Johnson,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: we would have easily and I believe if we make
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: that move as well, hypothetically we bring Chris Paul back
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: and let him run the second team, it would just
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: be it would just be too easy, especially having Harrison
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Barnes as well. It would just win it and put
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: it put him at the three, we would have ultimately
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the best defensive lineup in the entire NBA.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would just in that because.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: But that would never happen because contract sally, Yeah, it
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: curs contracts, the contracts.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I know there's that, and we we talked about it before.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: And even so, I don't know if you saw the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: support to the Rockets. They're thinking about including sing Goon
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: into a Bucks trade package, so it seems like they're
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: choosing Jaylene Green over sing Goon, so maybe they could
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: offer something. Obviously they're still okay, see, but let's talk
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: about this third team right here. The third team in
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the draft, Lauter right here, the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: So I want to get your opinion on this. So
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: we already know Cooper flag Dylan Harper. No matter if
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: he goes to San Antonio or goes to Milwaukee, or
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: if somehow gets traded, Dylan Harper's going number two. So
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the Sixers, they have Jared McCain, Tyree s Maxy, Joel Embiid,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Paul George. They have those guys. So they have two
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: different directions right here. They could either draft Aace Bailey,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: which I'll let you get into what you think of him,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: or trade that pick for somebody else. So what do
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you think they should do?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I think like the Spurs, Philadelphia Cini seventy six
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: ers definitely won the draft as well. I mean, obviously
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the Mavericks ultimately won. But all these top three teams
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: put themselves a better opportunity than what they possibly could
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: have imagined, because I forgot how it went in the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: draft lottery, where the Philadelphians six seventy six ers actually lost
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: out on even being in the top ten in the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: lottery because their pick that they had ultimately I forgot
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: what teams.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: YEA.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Actually the Kings ultimately fell out, so they ended up
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: losing an entire draft pick, So they were definitely the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: odds were not in their favor. But then I believe
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the pick that they had with Oklahoma City Thunder ultimately
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: went to another team, and so they jumped into the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: top three automatically. And you can definitely see Elton Brand
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and Daniel Morey and all them kind of like have
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: a sigh of relief when they started laughing and fell
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: on the table that they were sitting at. They were like, oh,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: thank God. So they ended up having the best possible
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: situation they probably couldn't have even imagine heading into this draft,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and they ended up getting the number three overall pick.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: It sets them up. I think they can ultimately look
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to trade. They can look to trade bringing a couple
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: of players. I don't think they're in the market for
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: like a honest because a Yiannis or a even a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, but they can definitely move backwards in this
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: draft and receive some more assets and then even drafted
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: player like a VJ. Edgecomb who is ultimately at play
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: still at the number three position. I think a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of people after the draft combine are have a little
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: bit question marks around Ace Bailey, especially when it comes
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: to his height. Who he was marked up at Rutgers
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: at six foot ten, comes out at six foot seven,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and then they looked at a lot of his intangibles
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: when it came to physical attributes. He didn't really blow
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: ahead blow people away with what he showed there. And
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: guys like Trey Johnson and VJ. Edgecomb who on their
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: parts definitely rows up draft boards, and Kellum Mlocke as well.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You can look at these type of players that you
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: want to make moves for, but Ace Bailey ultimately has
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the more most potential of any of those players, especially offensively.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: He's been compared to Kevin Durant, which I think is
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: kind of unfair to compare a kid to Kevin Durant,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: but he definitely has good scoring upside ability, and drafting
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: that guy, you can slide him into number three, maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: let Kelly Ubre walk and let him develop around players
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like Jerry McCain and Tyrese Maxie and look to see
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: what you do with Joel and Bid if he can't
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: stay healthy this season.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So that reports and so Darryl Moore more of he
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: has a very great track record of trading that number
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: or a top three overall pick.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I think he does trade it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: There's two separate guys that keep popping up, first of
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Paul George, a number three pick for Kevin Durant, that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: one's popping up, or a package for Laurie Markinen.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: So we know what else?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I could think of two who want who might want
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to move into that tosspot. Maybe go get a Cameron
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Johnson or a Cam Thomas.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe get like just assets.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Cameron Johnson, assets.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Get Cam Johnson, Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas. That wouldn't be
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: too bad honestly, that that fit their roles. But also
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: they're thinking about number three and Paul George to try
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to get out get off the contract too.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I think.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think the market for Paul George is the thinnest
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: is possibly gonna be what but forget to get lowry marketing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I could see if you want to swap contracts, because
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: both those contracts are very bad contracts upwards on the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: forty millions, you would definitely want to move off.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Though I'm pretty sure the Jazz would want.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: To send Larry Market into a contender, but they would
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: have to carry on a contract for that expire because
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I think Lowry has four years left on his contract,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: but Paul George still has two. So I think they
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: would want to like take for oh never mind, yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: he said, so you're you put yourself. I don't think
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the Jazz make that move. I think that that puts
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: them in bad positions both both ways. I think they
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: want to look to maybe move for a player who
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: was I thinking. I saw reports of if they were
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to trade.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Up in this draft. Oh dude, I'm going blank.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: But oh, let's say with the Phoenix Sons, if they
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: want to make a move with the with Kevin Durant
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to go get like if the if they want to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: make a move to send Larry Market into the Phoenix
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Suns and the Sons keep keep Kevin Durant, they go
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: get the contract of Bradley bill On for two years.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: That's expirers in two years rather than four years of
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Loarry Market and they take that hit for two years.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a movie that they tried making. I don't
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I just don't see that that working for them bringing
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: on Paul George for another five years.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I just think that it kind of makes sense
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: for the Jazz because they're they're pretty much in purgatory
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at this point where they're not winning any draft lotteries.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: They're staying. I know, they have the fifth overall pick,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: so let's just say they get they get Paul George
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and number three and Lawry Market. It goes you have
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: number three and number five, so you could get maybe
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a Ace Bailey and then you get a I know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it'd be kind of the same position, but there's a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Fears or VJ. Edgecombe. There's those guys, you know
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: what I mean, And Paul George can kind of be the.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Also rising of draft boards as well.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So I'm just thinking as far
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: as like, oh no, it was four for two eleven,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: so actually it's a three. There'll be three years left,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: so it's not as bad. It's not bad. It's a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it goes forty nine fifty one, fifty four fifty.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe they want to make that move to get off
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: one year earlier from Lowry Mark, get off a contract
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: one year earlier.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe that would be a possibility.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, may maybe, But is there anything else in
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this year that you're you're interested in.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of good prospects as well.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go too deep, but maybe player. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: think there's players like VJ. Edgecumb whose best fits I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: think is going to be at Charlotte. You know, you
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: can fit right between Brandon Miller and the mellow ball,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: be that three and D player that they desperately need.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: If we look at Kalem, the two guys from Dude
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Kalem and Konkerinoople, both those guys, draft stock is rising
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. And if you look at Kalo Kaylummlock
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: is getting a lot of hype because the potential he possesses.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: You only playing basketball starting at the age of sixteen,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I believe, so he still has a lot to develop
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: into his game. He's already a great He's already an
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: okay player when it comes defensively in rebounding, but I
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of potitional for it to be
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: great with being seven foot one and having a big
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: wings fan and be able to run the court as well. Konkrenouple,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: high for Conkrenoople. We may see him rise up. A
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: lot of draft ors draft on because they there. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people are looking at that UNC
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: game where he ran the ran the team basically all
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: by himself, and they can see that he can possibly
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: handle the ball as well while being a being the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: best shooter in the entire draft. He can definitely develop
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: into a defensive player. It's just how high do you
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: want to draft him. And then Trey Johnson as well,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: who was arguably the best scorer outside of Cooper Flag
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and all of college basketball. He's and what he was
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: able to do at the draft combine really show out
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: in front of the scouts. He's rising up possibly to
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that number three range at the Philadelphia seventy six ers,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: which is I don't know if it would be a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: good fit for him, but honestly, I think player. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: think teams are done drafting best fit available in the NBA.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I think they're looking for best player. We've seen that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: bite teams multiple times, especially like that Marvin Bagley over
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Luka Doncic type.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, you know.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, this draft is pretty This is pretty
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty nasty.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: If you look at some of the players from Georgia.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: No one, I'm not I'm not no name Treyor. I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: think that's his name, something like that, Uh yeah, trey Or.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Or something, and then like a scene Joan, I just
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: don't looked.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Into that yesterday.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: But no, I'm not a big fan of the one
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: that's going in the lottery. I think it's Trey Or.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I think don't if I'm saying, if I'm totally butchering that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I apologize. But he's he offers Nolan Nolan. I would say, no,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: no me trey Or, but Nolan trey Or. I don't
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: think he offers anything shooting wise, which is not good
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in today's NBA. Yeah, and I know the Michigan State
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: point guard Jace Richardson, son of Jason Richardson, he's he's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: falling because he listed to only six foot flat without
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: shoes and so. But what he's able to do offensively
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that he did at Michigan State does offer a lot.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe he goes like fifteen to seventeen range, but that's
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: foot frame. In today's NBA, where point guard is six
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: foot five, six foot six, like Kate Cunningham, you don't
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: want that type of guy out there guarding those guys
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you have to put it just wouldn't be a good
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: fit for a lot of teams. I feel like it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: just I don't know it's gonna be. It's gonna be
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: interesting to see where players fall in this draft, like
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: players like Asa and Noule or even.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Thomas Yeah yeah, or Thomas Sorber Queen or his queen
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: goes yeah, Derek Queen. All those type of players are
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: good rim protectors.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, Io and Nole's are better than I think
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Derrek Queen defensively. But Thomas Storber is as well. So
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I wonder if those guys rise above him come in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: draft time.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we'll we'll see. There's always definitely some moves
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: by draft time that definitely don't see coming. Or I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a lot more trades this draft.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: This draft time, I think, especially with con not contenders,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: but playoff teams that should be in the playoff, like
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the Sixers and Spurs being up there, I think it's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of teams move forward.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I I think so hundred percent, or try
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to move forward. Yeah, I could see number one for sure,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: they're they're drafting Cooper Flag but honestly would be inane
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Nico Harrison. He's got another year.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: He's the forest if they move for Jannis, though.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I still wouldn't.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I still wouldn't because then you'd really be mortgaging
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: your future like I already know you did, and then
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the basketball guys gave you a break, Nico Harrison, So
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: don't don't screw this up. You you can't mess off miss.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: One more thing. Do you think the draft lottery needs
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: to change? No, I personally don't.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, because it favors teams that don't tank,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It favors them. And Okay,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I know, like I kind of mentioned last time, it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: looked like it's kind of rigged, like just joking around.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Hopefully nobody took me serious. These guys, these thirty NBA owners,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they have invested or advisors. They're at the NBA Draft
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: lottery and they pay him a six figure salary just
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to watch the lottery. You really think that somebody's gonna
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: be fine with Oh, okay, you know what, the mass
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: trade away Luca perfectly fine giving away generational talent to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: them like the Wizards or Utah or Charlotte. You think
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: they're fine with that. No, I think that's dumb man. Okay,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, kind of like flipping
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it back to you. Do you think the NFL should
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: establish this with the top ten picks, not not all thirty,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: not all thirty.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I think they should do it with the top four,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the top four. I think top four, top four, like
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: how the NBA does.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I think every other like all the teams that finish
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: in the bottom of the top four top ten.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: No, because I still think there's players.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: There's teams, let's say, like the Cowboys or the forty
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: nine ers, who like who you know, are playoff teams.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Is just situations this year didn't go their way, especially
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: with injuries. Those teams you don't want getting a top
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: four pick. Let's just be complete. I know you're a
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Cowboys fan, but like I think, I think team.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Like teams like this consensus.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I think the difference is is, like
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I know basketball, one player can change the trajector you
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: of your franchise, but the fact that it's only one
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: of fifteen players, I think giving the other teams opportunities
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to draft that one player is better than adding like
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: let's say, like I don't know, dude, it's just hard
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I really think that it should be left alone to
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the top.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Three or top four. If they're gonna do some type
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: of lottery format for the NFL.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: If anything, it would be something like you know how
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: where they have the old all though rules were as
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: far as it would be like twenty percent for the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: top three or four teams something like that, and everybody
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: else they get like slim slim on something like that,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: or maybe top eight, top eight, maybe make it a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: little bit more.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Top eight could be a good a good sweet spot.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like that would be cool if they were
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: gonna go for a lottery, I think. But the thing
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is why I like the NBA's format now. And understand,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I've been getting a.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Lot of the love.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Of the lottery because of cut Stefan Castle, because of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Dylan Harper won four and two in the last three years.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: But I'm tired of seeing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Great players waste their careers in terrible situations, Like I'm legit.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: In the NBA, it's harder to watch than the NFL.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, then n b A
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: you can just watch a player be great and he's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: his team's just not doing nothing. Like we saw DeMarcus
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Cousins for years go through that, We saw John Wall
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: go through that, we saw we see LaMelo even though
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: partly it is probably due to this style of play
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: as well, but still if he would probably be on
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a better team, it would definitely elevate his game quite
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Zion. I know, Zion, the Pelicans have been good.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: It's kind of on his own accord, so I'm not
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: really I'm not gonna use that like I thought, but
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: mostly like I know, yeah, Kate, Kate Cunningham. But honestly,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: it took a couple of years. But ultimately there's always
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: players that just waste their careers away on bad teams.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And we even see it afterwards, we're players or even
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: executives come out and say it's not the player's real fault,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's the system that they're in that doesn't work out
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: for them. So I don't know, but that's also in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the NFL as well, so we see that come out
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: as well, Like quarterbacks get wasted away because the systems
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that they go to.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Cale Williams not being taught how to watch film.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: His entire life even by this coach staff. Crazy now,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: But all right, Josh, any other thing with the draft
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: lottery before we get into predictions or this next year.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: No, I think we're good man. We can go and
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: get into.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It, all right, cool, Well, before before we get into
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: our predictions, we're not gonna go like in depth kind
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of what we did last time. A sentence for each
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: one of these series that happened. So so this is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this is more just really quick right here. Let's start
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: off with the Knicks versus Celtics. With the Knicks one
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in six games.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought no words that?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: That's my sentence right there. Calvs. Versus Pacers domination, Halle Burton,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: that's all right. Wolves versus Warriors, Wolves one in five,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: easy road, no steph, no competition. All right. Then this
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: last one, which is the most competitive series of them all, okay,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: se versus Denver, which OKAC won in seven games. Masterpiece,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: real MVP for for a few for a few guys, aka,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: one guy, aka, it's Damien. Just who's the Jokic guy?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I appreciate him paying for my airbnb pretty much now?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But all right, all right, which one you want to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: start off with? First Eastern and Western Conference.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Let's go Eastern Conference Conference.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: No, let's go Western. I think Western is gonna be
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the easy, the faster. I want to talk about it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: To be honest.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, this first series right here is
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder versus the Minnesota Timberwolves. This series,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it starts today as of May twentieth. Okay, so he's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: favored by seven and a half. They're the overall favorite
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: there plus one point fifty in this series, so pretty
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: much a coin flip at this point. So I want
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to ask you first before you give real predictions, what
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: do you see from this series? What if you liked
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: from their previous playoff series? Any X factors or anything.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: As far as the Oklahoma City Thunder, I think I've
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of resilience from who they are. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: think the first round we definitely saw them dominate. But
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: then we get to the second round versus a proven
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: championship team with Nikola jokicch They helped their They they
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: really held him in the best and check the best
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: possibility way you can hold Nikola jokicchin Tech, especially in
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: those last three games where he was kind of struggling
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: He even had a game where he didn't even have
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: a double double in this series, so they were definitely throwing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: A lot of bodies at him.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I said this before, the best team to probably play
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: against Nikola jokicch was going to be the Oklahoma City
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Thunder because they have Heartenstein, they have Chet Holmgren, they
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: can constantly have players playing up on him. They have
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: aggressive players like Jalen Williams and Alex Cruzo who can
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: also step in as well that kind of disrupt him
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and we saw that in this series.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It definitely gave him problems that time, especially playing against
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a guy like Jalen Williams, who he didn't play very
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: good against ultimately in this series. And then we saw
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Shay have his moments where he kind of struggled, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: then towards the end of the games he became that closer,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that big time star that we know that he is
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: and shut the game down really quick. And they have
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: just effishing three point shooting all the way around. As
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: far as the Minnesota Timberwolves, I'm gonna be honest, I'm
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: not impressed. I understand people are riding the hotel of
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I know I picked the Lakers to win the championship
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and pick the Lakers in five. But if I'm looking
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: at hindsight and I'm being completely honest with myself, we're
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: disregarding the love for Luca Donchis and Lebron James that
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: That team has no depth.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That team does not have any players outside of those
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: two that are really gonna step up game in and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: game out and give them consistent minutes, especially Austin Reeves.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Austin Reives was nowhere to be found half the time.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: So it was it was.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Definitely a cakewalk for them in that series. And then
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: if we go and no big man, no real rebounding
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: opportunity or help, and you can go into this second
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: series the same was there as well, you know, the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: the mismatch problems that they would have received playing Stephan
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Curry the entirety of those last four games. It because
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: we saw what they did in Game one with Stephen Curry.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Those last four games without Stephan Curry, it just was terrible.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: They don't even have a backup point guard, if we're
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: gonna be say anything, they don't have a backup point guard.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: They have no real big man that's really developed, like
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a Quinn Post. We saw what's his name, Terran Jackson, Oh,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Tyson Jackson Davis, Tyson Jackson, Yeah, Texan Jackson Davis. He's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: not even developed. He barely plays in the regular season,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and he got real play time in the playoffs. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: that's an easy road that they had, that they have
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: had so far. And I understand other guys have stepped up,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: like Anthony, Like Anthony Edwards is gonna do his thing
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: no matter what. But ultimately we're really looking at the series.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: He did not have a good series versus the Golden
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: State Warriors. It was very inefficient. He didn't have really
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: great scoring outputs. He he was shooting a lot and
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: missed a lot. And Julius Randall, they gave him a
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: lot of praise. But when you're dominating Quinton Post and
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: On Jackson Jackson whatever, Jackson whatever, Tyson, Tyson, Jackson Davis,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I'm saying Jackson, Tyson Davis, but yeah him, I'm not impressed.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just not impressed. And Rudy Gobert not having a
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: sinner that can pull him out of the paint. Of
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: course he's gonna have big games versus those type of guys.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: So Ultimately, I just don't think this series is gonna
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: be good for the Minnesota Taverer Wolves.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So okay, well before before I get on to that point,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get onto your last point right here. As
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: far as like with the Tembolelves in this against the Lakers,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: they were just more athletic, more depths, more everything. So
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: for sure, I understand, I'm.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Not knocking players like Jena McDaniels or stuff like that,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: you know, like they have good series, but it's easy
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: to do that when you're not playing a team that's
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that's twelve deep, like the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that, but I'll say this as far
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: as with the this last series versus the Warriors, Yes,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the Warriors may not have the offensive output to keep
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: up with the tim Wolves, which is why they won
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the next four games without Steph Curry, but their defense
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was one of the better or the best defense there
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: were the number two defense whenever it was Jimmy Draymond
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and Steph wasn't on the floor, so the defense was
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: still tough and that's why they kept him in ball
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: games at this point. So Anthony Edwards, he kind of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: struggled Julius Randall, he kind of you know.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Who the best defense in the NBA is, They're about
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to play it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's the City Thunder. So I'll say this.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It's what he did against the Warriors. It's definitely a
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: great step because towards the latter part of the series,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: he started to kind of find his groove. He was
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: started to become more efficient and he and he's gonna
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: need to be more efficient in this series. Honestly, I
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a rock fight in this series.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I see this series being eighty ninety game or eighty
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to ninety point games right here, because these teams have
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: two of the best defenses in the league. And as
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: far as this playoffs, physicality just athleticism, real physical, real fast.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: So and I think both of these teams can guard
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: their star players they guard. There's plenty of bodies that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: could be thrown at shape, There's plenty of bodies that
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: could be thrown at amp. So I think it's gonna
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: come down to fourth quarter. Who's gonna be making the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: tough buckets. And yes, I know Anthony Edwards has been
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: making tough buckets, but also he's been, like you said,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: that's another point. He's been able to get to the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: rim at ease. But there's Isaiah Harvenstein, There's Jalen Williams,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: there's homes Chet Holbern. So there's plenty of bodies compared
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to previously. But I still think the Timberwolves defense can
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: shut down the Thunder offense. And there's another point I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: wanted to throw out to you too, as far as
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the whole rest versus russ debate right here, because the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Timberwolves they've pretty much been off since last last Wednesday,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and the Thunder they've only been off for forty eight hours.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So is there gonna be a little bit of adjusting
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: period versus the thunder, which honestly, you can't do that
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: against a thunder. You can't have an adjustment period versus
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the thunder right here, So and I know I said there,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: there shouldn't be no or there's not really any home
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: court advantage here because both of these teams have defenses
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that could travel. But if the thunder they go up
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to oh really quick, then over. Yeah, it's it's over
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: in all honesty, because the thunder, if you just let them,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the only thing, I think, the only thing that stops
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: them is their mental capacity, if that makes sense. As
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: far as I get them through that clutch situation, like
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: getting that championship experience, that's the only thing that's stopping them.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: And I know somebody's gonna say, oh, well, the Wolves
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: some more experience. We just saw what they did to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets, who have the better experience here, So.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: The experience the peak they have won the championship. Yeah,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: actually so with a lot of the same core guys
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that they have on that team.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And Okay, now all.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: The core guys actually X.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Factors right here from from both teams. Mm hmmm, who
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: would it be?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we're gonna look at the the left
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: side with the minnesot tim Wolves, it is definitely gonna
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: be X factor. Okay, X factor, I'm gonna say, Julius Randall.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I think I'm taking Shane and out of this. Obviously
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: they're they're obviously the the.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: The X factors.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: But Julius Randall, can Julius Randall continue to do his
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: do what he has been doing and playing against the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Lakers and playing against the the the Warriors, That's gonna.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Be a big question mark.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I I I do not think so, Like I I
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: know it's gonna be what they're gonna look at. Oh,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Julius Randalls really come alive in this playoffs. Twenty four
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: points per game, six rebounds, six assists, six rebounds isn't
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: gonna cut it versus a team like the like like
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder, who have rebounders for days. It's
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: just I just think he's gonna have to step up
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to a whole other level than what he has been doing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And if we're gonna look at an anchor, unless he's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: playing Isaiah Hartenstein, he's not gonna be able to guard
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: chet Holme Grin all the way to the perimeter. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: just don't think he's been able to do it. We
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: see him struggle against players like Victor Winbinnama all the time.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: We see him struggle against players like Luka Doncis, who
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: was cooking him in that first series. We are not
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: gonna sit here when they when they get those switches,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get those switches to sga on to Rudy Gobert,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and they better pray Rudy Gobert can stay in front
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: of them, and they are gonna look for those switches
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and then if we look at if we look at
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: if he can guard and is he gonna really out play,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: He's he's the better player up the two Isaiah Hartenstein
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and Jaylen Williams. But we saw Nikola Jokic himself struggle
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: against those two when it came to the offensive and
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: rebounding for a per game basis, So I think both
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: those both those players are gonna have to really step
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: up in a big way for the Minnesota timber Wolves.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: So those are my X factors per se. And as
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: far as the Oklahoma City Thunder, it's gonna be Jaalen Williams.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think bar none is gonna be Jaylen Williams. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: think everyone's gonna agree. I believe chet Holmgren needs to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: step up offensively for sure, Fifteen points per game is
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: not gonna cut it if you want to win a
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: championship ultimately. But Jalen Williams being that number two option,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I think I think he's gonna have to continue scoring
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: around that twenty point per game mark. But defensively, he's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: gonna have to step up against players like maybe if
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: he gets a switch on to Anthony Edwards or he's
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: guarding a Julius Randal one on one, he's gonna have
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: to be that guy that steps up and makes big plays.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I was kind of on the same line
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: as you. I put secondary shot creators, and I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: this series for the Wolves is gonna be a big
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Julius Rando on nas Reid series because yes, the Oklahoma
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: City Thunder obviously they have Shaye loudor Jayda iHeart, Chet Holmgren,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Case and Wallace, Alex Crusso, Aaron Wiggins, but they really
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: don't have big body forwards, you know what I mean,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: because Chet he's a little bit fresh. They run the Yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: so it's like Julius Randall, like you said, this needs
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to be his series, but nas Reed as too. Nas
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Reed too as far as like in the mid range
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: or stretching out to the three point line, you know
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: what I mean, getting Isaiah out of there, getting Chet
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Homegrin out of there, so and can have a runway,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Jada McDaniels can have a runway. And like you said,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: for the Thunder right here, I really like what Jadubb
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: did in the second quarter of Game seven because it
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: was looking really bad at first. Whenever I know, they
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: kind of made a run out there and it was
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty one at the end of the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: first quarter the Nuggets versus Thunder. But then Jadubb I
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: believe he had seventeen points in the second quarter. If that,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: If that Jadub shows up, this isn't a series in
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: all honesty, but it's just the biggest thing. Can he
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: show up the way that we know he could show up?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: That lou Dor on that boy, Anthony Edwards. I'm gonna
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: let you know, bro, They're gonna put loud door on him.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: You doort is the perfect guy to guard Anthony Edwards
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: in all honesty. The size, the size, the speed, the string.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Do you think okay, because I'm sorry to interrupt you,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: but do you do?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Do you I'm sorry to interrupt you.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Do you think they start they they benched Isaiah Hartenstein
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: and start Chet Holmegrin for this series, like not bench
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: them entirely, but like I mean, like come off the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: second unit, like to kind of start the start the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: process of pulling Rudy Gobert out of the paint.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I think, in all honestly, I think I Heeart's gonna
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: guard Julius Randall and Chet's gonna guard Rudy Gobert in
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: all honesty, so check could kind of stay in that paint.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: True true, but I think if this switch just happened,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that's a perfect switch for them.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Also we want to stay.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: But also I'll I'll say this, the Wolves they never
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: close with their starting lineup, which is usually Mike Conley,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, McDaniels, Julius Randall, Rudy Gobert. Usually it's dont
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you gonna kill Alexander Walker whoever has the hot hand,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: The playing terrible? Yeah, like Nicole Alexander Walker. Yeah, pretty playing,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: playing pretty bad.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So it's probably gonna be Dante. It's gonna be Dante
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: most likely, or they're gonna go Mike Conley and McDaniels,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Randall and nas Reed, you know what I mean. Naswed
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: usually close the game over Rudy Gobert. So that's another thing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So as far as Dante nasried to kill Alexander Walker,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: they're uraging over twenty minutes a game, so they're getting
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: real pt in crunch time. So I don't think the
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: starting lineup for the Wolves they're gonna really be the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: closing lineup for them. But what's so scary about the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: thunder Man is that there's there's waves and waves and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: waves on on this bench unit. Like you're saying there's cruise.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: So case on Wallace, Aaron Wiggins, and you have Jalen Williams,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: then you have then you have Isaiah Joe. I don't
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: know if Isaia Joe's gonna get more pt this series,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: but there's waves after waves after waves, and I just
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: think that I think they're gonna be too much. You
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: know what, prediction time already, So I have this going
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: to seven games right here, but like, h I think
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be It's gonna split the first two,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it's gonna split the second two. Then okay, see they
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: win the next two out of the three game Game
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: five and game seven. That's how I happened.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I have it in five.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Oh you think it's a quick series.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's done.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I think I don't think they I don't think they
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: have an ekally Yokic on the other side. I understand
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is working his way up to being a
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: top five player in the NBA, but he's not an
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: equally yokicch.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. And also another thing, how come they haven't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: released MVP. They they need to make it how they
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: used to make it. Where MVP was released game one
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: of the playoffs where it's usually the home court, you
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: It was game one. It was game one.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: It used to be game one, because the only reason
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: why I know for sure is because Derek Rose this
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: will this is kind of bad right here there, bros.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Against the six series that that game he died that game.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: But but all right, this next series right here, which
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: it is the other side, the Indiana Pacers versus the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: New York Knicks right here, So one of these teams
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: is going to be making the finals for the first
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: time in a while, I think two thousand and one and.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Have never made Have they made the Regin Yeah they.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Did two thousand and one, and I believe the Knicks
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: were the year before in two thousand. Yah, the ninety
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: nine two thousand series, so that's when they made the finals.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a twenty twenty four to twenty
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: five year your gap without making the NBA finals. So
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: this one, obviously the Knicks they won in six games
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: right here. Surprise the Celtics pretty much the same. On
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the opposite side, the Pacers, surprise the Cavs and one
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and five right here, kind of same thing. What are
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: your quick takeaways, what are your X factors? What do
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you just seeing from this series?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna start with the New Knicks. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: think the New York Knicks have been playing great basketball.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson has been really stepping up. You know, he's
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: turning into possibly could be after this year if they
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: if they make something happen, could be the greatest Nick
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: of all time. And that's and that's not even like glazing,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that's not even like yeah, like dude, it's just legit.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: It's just legit. Most forty point games of any player
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: since over the last like what six years when it
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: comes to playing in the playoffs, you know, he's just
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: doing his Dean Karl Anthony Towns like.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: He's been playing great basketball.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You know, no matter how much he wants to try
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: to using a New York accent in postgame interviews, you know,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: he's still playing great basketball. We saw in that last
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: closing game he played really physically.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: He was getting to his spots, he was demanding the ball.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I believe he only took four threes in that last game,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: so he was really pressing the interior og Miles Bridges,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Josh Hart. I mean, they all play hard, they all
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: do what they need to do. I think a big,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a big factor in that last game was Miles McBride.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not gonna show up in the entirety
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: of the playoffs, but in that last game alone to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: close out the Boston Celtics, he stepped up in a
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: big way. The thing is, the thing is why they're
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: gonna lose this series. And I'm gonna say it out right,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: they don't have enough depth. They don't have enough depth
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to keep up with a team like the Inna Pacers
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: over a seven game series. I think the Indiana Pacers
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: have six guys that are scoring in double digits. They
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: have constant rotations, especially with TJ McConnell coming off the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: bins and Obi Top and Ben Sheppard. These guys offer
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: something defensively and also offensively. I just believe in that
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: what the Boston Celtics were doing in that last series
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: was terrible basketball. They were settling for just trash threes.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: They were they just weren't playing, They weren't moving around
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: the basketball like they usually do. Defensively, they were not
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: showing up. But you know a team that's gonna show
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: up offensively and a team that's not gonna settle for
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: crap threes, it's gonna be the Indiana Pacers. They constantly
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: look for the open guy. They have more assists per
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: game than the New York Knicks do basically along the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: lines of every and they are the better team defensively.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: They they're top ten in the entire NBA when it
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: comes to defense and number one in the entire NBA
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: when it comes to putting the basketball inside the hoop.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: They do that better than anybody in the entire NBA.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: And I believe they're top three also in assist So
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: they they play to their strengths. They look for the
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: open guy no matter what. We see guys like Pascal Siakam,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Tyre's Halibert, Myles Turner, Andrew Nimbard, Aaron E.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Smith.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: We see these type of lineups and people are like, Okay,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: maybe when the second unit comes in, but you know
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: who's coming off the bench.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: TJ.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: McConnell all be top and Benedict Mather and they got
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: these type of players and they and they want to
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: if they want to shorten up to an eight nine
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: man rotation.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: They can do that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And we've seen players play big minutes and offer offer
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: defensively like Thomas Bryant. You know, I know he's not
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: a big name anymore, but definitely he's coming in off
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: the bench and doing the scrap work for this Indiana
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Pacers team. And I just think, I know the New
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: York Knicks are top heavy. They can, they run the court,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: they don't get tired, they but I think you're gonna
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: get tired against a team that plays a great transition
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: in basketball like Indiana Pacers.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna kind of go off your last point here.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: So the New York Knicks, they have four guys playing
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: over thirty thirty seven minutes per game.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: That's a lot, bro.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And Okay, let me tell you this. The Pacers have
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: nobody in this entire playoff series that has played over
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: thirty five minutes per game. So kind of on the
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: point that you're bringing, it's more gonna be are the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Knicks gonna burn out? And I think that's kind of
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: been the biggest question mark this entire series. And we
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: also see as the series goes on, Now you're gonna
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: We see every other team.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: The reason why these teams are there is because injuries
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: are not happening.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's depth, there's plenty of depth. But I'll
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: say this, that was definitely a big There's definitely been
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: a big gap for the Knicks to recover. It's been
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: four days, you know what I mean, because they're gonna
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: play tomorrow. They play after the Okay, seeing templewol series,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how it's gonna split up after
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a week. Yeah, it's been a week for the Pacers.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: But what they played Friday, what was Friday? Friday was
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the sixteenth, Yeah, Friday was the sixteenth, so they had
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: they've had three full days, three full days to recover,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and they haven't had a travel two so they've been
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: sleeping in their same beds and everything. So the Knicks
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: they're favored. They're favored right here minus one fifty. So
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: it's pretty much a coin flip, same as the other series.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Right here, Pacers are plus one fifty. So Okay, I'm
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say this. I know we're gonna
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: disagree this series. I'm we're not gonna give away exact
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: prediction yet. We're gonna say that to the very end,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I just think that it's a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: matter of who's gonna perform better in the clutch, And
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: this has been the two most clutch players this entire postseason,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Tyree's Halliburton and Jalen Brunson. Dyalen bruns has forty two
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: clutch points. The same closes is Tyrese Halliburton with twenty six.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: So I know it's a big gap there, but I
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: think this is a perfect example of I wouldn't call
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the Pacers is io ball, but in the clutch, it
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: kind of turns out the io ball with Tyre's Halliburton.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: So who's gonna be the better isolation team at the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: very end? Is it gonna be Brunton? Is it gonna
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: be Halliburton? And Tyree's has been playing at a top
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: ten level kind of this year. And what you've been
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: saying as far as with the defense, yes, the Knicks
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: they had a great defensive series. Cat played well, Jaylen
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Brunson played well because they just had a guard on
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the island. The Pacers, they're gonna get that mismatch, but
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: then they're gonna put you in a blender. It's gonna
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: be catch and shoot after catch and shoot, catch, drive
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to the basket, catch, drive to the basket. It's a
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: perfect example of a modern day Spurs basketball. That's pretty
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: much what it is. There's no other way I could
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: put it other than like, I feel like this is
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: like twenty thirteen to twenty fourteen Spurs basketball, whenever they
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: were just like, not necessarily one guy was dominant, but
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: every single guy was just stepping up. You had the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: likes of Kawhi, you had Tony Parker, you had Tim Duncan,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you have Patty Mills, Danny Green, you know what I
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: mean that all these other guys just waves. And I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: just think that's what it's going to depend down to
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: who can make the more clutch shots at the very end.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: And also home court. Knicks have home court. I feel
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: like this matters right here. I feel like, compared to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the last series, whoever wins his home games or stills
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a home game is gonna end up winning this series.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: The Knicks are four and two on the road. No,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: they're actually five and one on the road. So was
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the Pacers. They're five and one on the road too,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: So who's gonna win on the road. So let me
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: ask you that who do you think is more likely
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: to win a game on the road this series.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the team that moves the ball around
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: and that finds the open guy no matter what.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And it's the Indiana Pacers.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and all right, X factors.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Here, X factors for the Indiana Pacers shoot. I mean
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: they play so like I'm gonna have to say Pascal
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Siakam for Fredi and Pacers, I think he's the best
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: offensive player. I mean, Harry's Halliburn's arguable just because what
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: he does all around, but Pascal Siakam offers a lot
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: of mismatches against a lot of different players every single
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: time he steps onto the court. There's really not like
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: a player that can completely guard him. And I just
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: don't see the New York Knicks offering somebody that can
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: that can completely shut him down when it comes to
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: finding his spot, because he's such like his just like
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like the size that he presents offensively
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and especially being able to shoot and stretch the ball
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: out and go inside.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: It's kind of just like he's like that, He's that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Mixture of all types of offensive game that you kind
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: of don't want to see on the other side. And
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I believe if he has big games, if he's able
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: to kind of keep that consistency that he's been doing,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I just don't see the Pacers really slipping up a
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: lot of the times. And if we're good at the
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: New York Knicks, it's gonna be Karl Anthony Towns like
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: part none, Karl Anthony Towns. Kar Anthony Towns arguably he
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: should be the best player in the series, but he's not.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: It's Jerylean Brunson. I mean, we're looking at like, you know,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: like if we look back, who was the better player
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: of all these guys, it was Karl Anthony Towns, the
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: number one overall pick.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: But Karl Anthony Towns, he's not on his team the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: best player, But he has to play like the best
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: player I think for them to win this series, especially
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: against the guy like Miles Turner. Hoover being honest, matches
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: him in almost every single aspect of basketball, and Miles
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Turner is better defensively, So it's gonna have to be
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: where can he get his shots off and can he
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: be the consistent shooter that he has been in his career,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: and can he create opportunities in the interior for himself.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna come down to Carl Anthony Towns.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. As far as the Pascal Siakam,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna get the mismatches he wants,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: whether it's Josh, whether it's Jalen Brunson. I don't think
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: he's gonna really attack Mkel Bridges or og Annobi, but
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be those two guys right there.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And also as far as Karl Anthony Towns. In the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: three games they played this year, this is crazy right here.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Listen to this and the three games they played this year,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns average thirty points, twelve assists, and eight rebounds.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: So I agree with you one hundred percent. You're gonna
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: need to see that Karl Anthony Towns play this year's
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: albeit be regular season the Pacers. They weren't as good
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: defensively as they are now. But he's gonna need to
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: be that good to beat the Pacers. And honestly, all right,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: let's go and get into prediction time. I honestly don't
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: love my pick at all, mostly because I got the
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Damien curse on my side, so usually whenever Damon and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I have the same pick, I'm kind of cooked here.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: But I have Nixon seven here. I think that home
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: court is gonna matter this game. I think when it
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: comes down to clutch situation, because there's gonna be at
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: least two three games that come down to the clutch.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Not from trust Tyree Saliburn, it's just Jalen Brunton is
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: just on a different level right now. He hasn't underperformed
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: in any clutch situation. Maybe that's kind of working against him,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's kind of helping them out. Hey, all
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is that Pope Leo the fourteenth went to Villanova.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Maybe it's a year of Villanova,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Maybe it's a year of Villadova.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: So I have the Knicks and seven, and I feel
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: like this is gonna be the better series out of
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the two. I know I have Thunder and Timberwolves and seven,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: but I think this one's gonna be an even better
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: series as far as seeing clutch clutch played down the stretch.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I have the Indiana Pacers in six. I think the
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: New York Knicks are gonna win two, maybe at home,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: but I just think the Indiana Patris what they offer
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: is the Celtics didn't vote to the standard, and I
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: don't think the Pacers are gonna straight away from what
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: they do the best, and that's moved the ball around.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: And I think people are underestimating depth. I think people
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: say that the Knicks maybe have depth, but no, there's
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: not a team that has besides the Thunders, that has
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: more depth on their basketball team. I think in the
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: entirety of the playoffs this year than the Indiana Pacers
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: have to offer because no matter what, they're gonna have
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: guys coming in and to score offensively and play the defense.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: And I just think that's gonna be too much ultimately
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: in a seven game series for the New York Knicks.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely see this being flipped the other
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: way rather than the OKC and Timberwow series. I feel
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: like that one. I'm one hundred percent confident if I
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: had have been on that one, I definitely would this
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: series right here. I would not want to put no
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: money out. I'm honestly like terrified of that next pick here.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I could Honestly, I could easily see in this being
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: like Pacers and five. I could really see that being
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: this way if the Pacers they stay at the level
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: that they're at right now. So and honestly, this one
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: is it's a scary pick. I'm just hoping for good
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: hoops here all right, any other takeaways from these two
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: series right here before we get into our draft.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: No, I think we're good. I think we said all
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: our piece on those series.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Or let me write this down. You said Pacers in six, right,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and I have Nixon's all right, let's go and get
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: into our fantasy draft right here. You want to do
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: eight or you want to do ten, ten? You know what,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go first here, Josh.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, I feel like.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Being being kind.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: P G all right, number one, give me s.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: G A what a shocker, what a shocker there. Let
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: me finish riding these down right right now?
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, you're right. Where do you want sat?
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: The one?
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: You want them? Not the one? Okay? Okay? Hm hmm,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: well I have to go with him right here. He's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: the second most talented player right here. Give me aunt
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: right here on my two.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Well, then give me, oh ship, Dad Scott. I don't
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: know where I want to go right here?
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know if you if you don't
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: pick him, I'm picking him. I'm just like I know,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: but it's not gonna match. It's not gonna Yeah, you're
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: gonna take.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Him as my sixth man and give me Jalen Brunson.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we haven't.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: We haven't. People come off and right waves, brother.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, this is perfect right here? I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: love this right here. Give me ty Reese at my
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: point guard right here.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, Tyrese Halliburn would be the perfect fit for
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. Honestly, I feel like that would that would
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: be the greatest fit for him, like for a younger
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: guy who's as sending.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, all right at my at my four, give me.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Cat, damn it, damn it. I thought you were gonna
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: go with somebody else here. Okay, let's see. I kind
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: of think I know where you're trying to go, but
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you go there, so give me chat.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Damn it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I was at my five yeah, no, five, yeah, no,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I would should I have Chat to match? You know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I'm have chat to match cat. I'm a chat to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: match cat. I might change that around, but as of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna have.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Chet right there all right at my three. Give me
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's pretty nasty for a three, because he
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: can play all five positions.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: No, not check this. I'm gonna go in and add
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: on into it. And I'm gonna go in and give
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: my five right here. Give me Miles Turner right here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: perfect compliment, perfect compliment. Next to check Bro, I'm gonna
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: have a five out offense with Hallie Bro.
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  Speaker 3: Mmmmm.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be nasty.
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  Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, all right, all right,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: all right, all right, Okay, I like this. Damn damn
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: d I like this.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I do you know when I'm going next? If if
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: you pick one of these players, you know what?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Man, Please don't do it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Please, Let's move Let's move these players around a little
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Bit's move Cat to my five. I know it's gonna
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: be now, it's not gonna be very good for my
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: likings defensively at all.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Let's move past. Let's keep Pascal at my three. We're
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: gonna put j Dub at my four.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I like that one?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, nope. J Dub's at my three and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Pascal is at my four like that? Okay?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well I don't. I'm torn between two separate guys,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: two separate guys on this one.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, with my defense is cook.
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  Speaker 1: This this guy, he has more scoring output than the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: other two guys as of this postseason. Give me og
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: at Apia at my three.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Prick three, Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Dude, my dude, my start in five, Hallie and og
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Chet Miles Turner.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, then for.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: For defense at my you know what, I'm gonna stick
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: with this so I can have a rotational piece as
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: a big man. Give me nas reed na.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Everyone's okay, give me Lou Dort as my six man. Okay,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: shout out loud dort Man.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I think I need a rim protector no matter what,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: So give me Rudy Gobert.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Rudy as your eighth. Yeah, you know what, let's let's
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: might as well add on to this right right here,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: or you know what, no faction, give me. Give me
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Jayda McDaniels here, give me Jada.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: McDaniels and my two. Give me Andrew Nimhart.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Why Why did I already know you were saving your two?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Why did I know what you're saving your two for?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: For him already? I had a feeling, Yeah, I was.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm gonna hold him.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I think he'll fall, bro, My defense is insane. I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: kind of need you know what. I feel like this
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: is a great pick right here. Give me Julius Randall.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Give me Julius Randall as my eighth man right here.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I like this, somebody off the bench that could get
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: some easy buckets for I like this. I like this
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: right here. Oh, oh my goodness, I'm forgetting somebody else camera. Hell,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: are you gonna start working? Thank you? I forgot?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Did you already take Josh Hart? No, I'm taking Josh
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Hart for a hustle.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Bro. Well, I'm taking somebody else on New York too.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Give me Michael Bridges.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, I totally forgot about mickle Bridges. To be
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: honest with you, that's a dub for you. I totally
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: forgot about mickle Bridges.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, I'll take him.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I'll take it, and I guess for my last but
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: I'll add on.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I want a tweener, bro. I need someone that's gonna
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: play kind of everything. Give me Opie Topping, Opie Topping. Okay,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at your team right here. Okay,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: you have Shaye entered him Hard, Pascal, Jdubcat, Jalen Brunsons, Rudy, Josh.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Hart, Opie Topping. Okay, So I have separate options. I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: go Alex Caruso here. I could go kaysaon Wallace, I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: could go Dante DiVincenzo, I could go m I go
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Deuce McBride.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Now I'm kidding, hm, I kind of want to redo
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: my freaking binch.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Let me go, Let me go Alex Caruso here. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: need a vet not trying to blaze my team. Bup, bro,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like my.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Team's let me. I want to move. I'm moving players around.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna move Cat back to my back to my.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Four, okay, okay, Cap back to the four.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Back to the four.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: J Yeah, but I'm putting nas Read at my five, okay.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Or Jel's off the bench now.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: No, job's at my three. Pascali Yoakam's coming off the bench.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: That is crazy, having Pascal and Jalen Brunton off the bench.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I like that my team. I like my team a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: lot better now.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Jad Cat and Nas talk about just three talk about
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: just stretching.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Out, and I'm taking Obi off. I'm taking Obi off.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I know we already drafted, but this is still available.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going Dante, Devin Chinzo.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I have bodies A throwat the throat and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Jadob you have aunt O glud Or, Jaden McDaniel's, mckel bridges,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Alex Caruz, Julius Random. Now you got bodies, Yeah, bodies
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: to throw how halle a o g Chet, Miles Turner
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and loud Dort, Jayda McDaniels, Julius Random, mckel Bridges, Alex Crusoe.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Bro, whoa, Oh, I like my team now the way
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: that I moved it around. Bro, I like my team now.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: My team still has a defense, Bro.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Nah, I feel like mine has better defense.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: But off the bench, I got Brunton in Pascal Siakam, Bro,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: that's nasty. Then I got shooters with Dante and Josh Hart.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Josh Hart will run the court.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is true. I got Really my only
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: bitch creators are Julius Roundo mckel bridges.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: But that's what I was looking at when I was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: looking at That's why I was looking at it. I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: was like, dude, Jalen Brunt is the only person that's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: gonna be like handling the ball off my bench.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, hold on, I was like, let me
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: move some things.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Around real quick.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Mos nods to the four, no to the five and
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: catch the four and then Jalen Brunton Jaylen Brother.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was No, that's it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: It's not bad. That's not bad. I like that right there. Mmm.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I'm trying to think
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: is there somebody else missing? I don't think there's nobody
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: else missing. I just feel like somebody.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Needs Smith maybe aaron Ne Smith maybe.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, But all right, Josh any last before we
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: get out?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Really not literally? Not no one else missing, to be honest, No,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Josh any last word before we get out of here? Nah?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: I think I'm good. All right, you're talking to y'all.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: No more?
• 1:07:36
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:55
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• 1:07:58
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• 1:08:00
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• 1:08:03
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