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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 060226 LIVE, - Law, Language, and Lunch: Residency vs. Domicile, 42 USC, and What We Eat · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: No. You little kitties.
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  You little cowboys, cowgirls, ranch hands, you're looking for freedom. By golly, you found it. You lucky things. Here we go on the Tuesday edition
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  Radio Ranch.
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  Here for you.
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  And it is Tuesday, I believe. It's Marches
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  Marches,
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  Moon Day.
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  It's the June 2. We're going into the second day of the back half of the year.
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  Voyage is it Raj, I was thinking about that. Isn't the back half from July 1? Because that's the seventh most Well, you know what? It it probably is. I just always think of it turning on June, and I'm wrong, and you're right. So July,
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  but we're headed close to the back half of the year. There we go. Which promises
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  to be a
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  sit on the edge of your seat.
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  Unknown: I was confused yesterday.
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  Unknown: I was I know. Well, I'm sorry. Was this is my that's no. It's my culpa. Mia culpa.
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  Anyway, it's, we're close to the second half of the year,
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  and, we will give you details as we inch toward it. Of course, July 4 thing has got
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  some pretty big implications
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  this year potentially,
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  that mister t,
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  who knows which side of the, rope he's on,
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  may, readjust the price of gold, on the fourth and announce something like fifty year gold backed bonds or something ridiculous
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  like that. So we'll see. We're in that range. There's all kinds of stuff going on, of course. I don't know about it too much in the next morning because
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  I'll get to you in a second, Paul, I guess, but until,
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  Alex and the boys get get a morning show on,
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  I'm just kinda flying blind,
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  in the mornings.
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  And, so, anyway, that's the way it is.
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  Paul, if you'd be so kind as to give us the folks that
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  help us extend our reach here at the old radio ranch.
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  Unknown: Full compliment today minus Discord because
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  I don't have the
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  I don't I just don't have the hardware to to spare a sound channel to feed Discord, so that that's coming.
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  We're on eurofolkradio.com.
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  Thanks to Pastor Eli James. That of course is our anchor platform.
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  Paul English brings us radiosoapbox.com,
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  at least for now.
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  And we're also on Global Voice Radio Network, that is radio.globalvoiceradio.net
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  for the audio through Pod Home. And that incidentally is where you'll find the list of archives.
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  And also video
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  dot
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  no. Rumble.globalvoiceradio.net.
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  That
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  that will get you to the Rumble channel. But if you go searching for GVRN
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  on
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  soapboxtv.net
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  you'll find us there as well
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  and if you search for my channel on Twitch and Kik you
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  will find us there
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  as well. Our website is thematrixstocks.com
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  and free conference call is how people actually join the show.
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  Unknown: Now, Raj, you said you had a story, and I have a story also. Well, you can go first. Well, you're you're on the soapbox, so you can go ahead first.
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  Well, okay. Well well, this is this actually indicates what what Oh, hold on. Somebody's already trying to interrupt you. Hold on, Paul. Who's trying to say something?
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  Who'd This is me, Vivana, Raj, and I have this on YouTube. So I'll Oh, we got three stories. How about that? Okay. We got three stories Alright. Three stories in the show today. That's a start. So here we go. We're gonna defer to mister technician
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  here first,
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  the wizard. Well,
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  Unknown: this is something that came across my desk.
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  I actually don't have a desk. I have a soundboard, but
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  and it is part and parcel what is wrong with the world
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  and
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  those who
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  make money without doing anything for it and the corruption in government and everything else. It ticks
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  all of the boxes
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  because,
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  recently there was there was a problem with the fence, the White House,
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  and three contractors were called to bid on fixing the broken fence.
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  One was from Bangladesh,
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  another was because we don't want to seem antiseptic,
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  we'll just say they were from Ukraine,
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  and the third one was from China.
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  So they go to the White House office to examine the fence. The Bangladesh contractor takes out a tape measure. He does some measuring and then works the figures out with a pencil and says I figure the job will run about $900.
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  That's 400 for materials,
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  400 for my team, and a $100 profit for me.
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  So then the Chinese contractor,
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  he does measurements and and he does figuring. He pulls out the abacus and everything else. Then he says, I can do this job for $700,
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  300 for materials, 300 for my team, and a 100 profit for me.
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  So then the Ukrainian contractors turn. He comes up. He doesn't measure or figure anything,
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  but he leans over to the official and he whispers
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  $2,700.
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  The official
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  is taken aback. He's outraged. He said, you didn't even measure like the other guys. How did you come up with such an outrageous figure? Ukrainian looks at him and whispers back, a thousand for me, thousand for you, and we hired a guy from China to fix the fence.
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  Unknown: Done. There you go. Replies the official. I I knew he's gonna load up with a joke from the way he started. Okay. Well, there's the three guys in repair. Ozana,
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  what story do you have?
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  Unknown: Well, okay. You sure you want me to go before you, Roger?
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  Unknown: Well, mine's pretty short. I'll go ahead and get mine, and Zana will build up a little suspense for yours. Okay?
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  I was just telling the folks here because I've heard the story when they were down,
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  Susan and
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  Dean,
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  about I've got a friend here. She's been down here twenty eight years,
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  twenty nine probably now.
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  And, it's just for Philadelphia and just kinda that's spacey. You know? She's real nice. She just doesn't pay attention to stuff like we do.
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  And,
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  she loves to go help the Indians in the jungle and all that kind of stuff.
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  Well, she was working in. I told Paul, here's how this came about. I was talking about Ecuador, and Paul said I couldn't handle 8,000 feet. And I was like,
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  well, you could after a couple of days. It's not like it sticks with you for months.
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  But, anyway, the body will acclimate to them.
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  Survival is the key. It's gonna get you the oxygen you need.
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  But, anyway,
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  Anne, Annie, who's my friend,
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  I said, well, Paul, we might could put you down in Mendo.
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  Well, here, Ecuador's got all of
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  every microclimate
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  in the world in one country.
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  Pretty interesting.
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  Well, Mendo is about halfway. Paul said 4,000 feet. So I said probably Mendo,
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  although I've never been there.
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  Mendo
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  is in the rainforest part of the country. And so Anne was working down there at a restaurant,
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  and she was waiting on this table, and they they they were all shocked
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  because at the table was Sting
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  on a vacation down here in Ecuador.
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  And and Anne didn't recognize him, and he was shocked that somebody didn't recognize him. So, anyway, that was the story. If you're down there in Mendo,
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  ever,
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  Paul, you might run into Sting.
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  Who knows?
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  Unknown: Well, I think at this particular stage in his life, I don't think I'd I'd recognize him either.
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  Unknown: Yeah. It might not. Hell, he might have had too many hard hard driven miles. You know? That happens. Yeah. Okay.
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  Our young
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  student,
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  very accomplished.
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  Alana, will you have a story too?
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  Actually, Roger, it's more this I should say this evening
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  in the
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  exact opposite time zone.
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  I'm in Thailand for a business trip. And
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  Unknown: You are right now? Traveling.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Right now. Yes. Oh, okay. You sound great.
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  Oh, I'm going through FCC, so I'm sure they have a good connection at the hotel.
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  Uh-huh. And so,
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  you know, nice, nice, nice hotel there, plus.
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  So you okay. So let's back up a little bit. And, it
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  takes it takes it takes a lot to to get my blood flowing, Roger. Okay? I'm generally
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  a very calm person.
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  And but
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  but you wouldn't believe what we experienced for my son
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  and my wife
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  when they went to get driver's license to one of my son to get the driver's license and
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  and my wife to update her driver's license at the DMV in Texas in in Austin,
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  in Austin
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  near
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  I think it well,
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  let's just say in Austin.
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  Alright. So back up a little bit. So my son is a national. He sent all his paperwork.
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  So he got, you know, in the
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  Unknown: How old are you He just Okay. He's 18.
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  Unknown: And,
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  and I you know, he's been listening to me rant, you know, about nationality and stuff. And one day he came to me and he goes,
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  would
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  this protect me from from getting drafted in the military?
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  And I said, yes. It would.
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  And he says, okay. Then I'm gonna be a national too. So that's that was his motivation.
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  Unknown: And and what's his name? His honor. What's his name?
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  Unknown: His name is Daniel.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  Good on you, Daniel. Go ahead.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  So
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  he got, you know, he learned not to drive stick shift and,
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  and so then he passed the test and driving tests,
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  but I'm here in Thailand. So I wasn't there to be a part of this experience.
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  So he went to,
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  to, with his sister
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  to the DMV
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  and,
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  and you know, they weren't ready for him. So today he went with his mom,
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  And,
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  basically,
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  they told him that, hey. We see that you have,
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  you see that you have all the documentation needed
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  to get a driver's license. We're very happy to give you a driver's license,
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  but,
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  you
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  are going to have to check
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  yes on that US citizenship.
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  Unknown: So they were alright. Now I wanna they're asking for year to acknowledge US citizenship on a driver's license.
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  It used to be residency.
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  So evidently,
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  now that's changed.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  well, there there is a
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  well, it's still there. Like, so you have to put no, and you have to provide if you're not if, like, say, you're a Japanese,
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  you have to provide a residency document. You have to put no, and proof of residency is required.
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  Unknown: Yeah. And that would like, a a gas bill or an electric bill or something. They'll usually accept for that. Go ahead. Do my knowledge.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Exactly. Well, that's for US citizens. If you're not a US citizen to
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  and if you're from somewhere else, a foreigner,
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  then other form of documentation is required such as the, you know, your visa or your permit to be here.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Green card number,
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  Unknown: etcetera. Yeah. Green card number and so on and so forth. Yeah.
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  So
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  but my son has all his documentation in order.
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  So she basically said to him
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  that he will have to sign
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  he will have to sign as a US citizen. And at that point,
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  he says, I can't do that. By the way, just to be clear,
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  I I skipped a portion just to kinda get to the punchline.
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  When he went to get his permit originally two weeks ago,
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  three weeks ago, he submitted the form,
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  but it had a couple of interesting incidents that happened then
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  because on the form
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  it'll ask you for your race.
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  Right?
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  There are four options on the race question.
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  First one is American Indian.
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  Uh-huh. Next one is, I believe it's Alaskan.
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  Unknown: I had it. Oh, they got two they've got two different types of Indians in Alaska, but yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Unknown: Another one, you know, Alaskan.
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  Right?
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  So,
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  then you have black
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  and white.
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  Those are the four options we have.
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  Unknown: Wow. Okay.
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  So American
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  Indian,
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  Alaskan Indian, black or white, those are the only choices?
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  Unknown: No. American in yeah. Well, Alaskan or American I pulled it up. Alaskan or American Indian,
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  Asian or Pacific Islander.
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  Unknown: Oh, okay.
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  Black.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Black
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  and white. White.
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  Okay.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Okay. Well, I guess that covers everything, doesn't it?
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  Politically, yes. It covers everything. The the the Spanish isn't in there, though.
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  Unknown: No. Because,
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  Roger,
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  you know, race is can has multiple definitions.
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  It's that of dedication.
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  Right? Yes. Yeah. Of course. So you say, oh, you look at yeah. That's my race. I'm black. I'm white. I'm Hispanic. That's a race. Well Mhmm. In this case, the definition for race
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  is your political status.
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  Unknown: Boy, isn't that interesting? Can only it
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  can Race is nation, usually. A nation is race. If you go look up nation or or race, it'll say nation, a nation of that type of people. And here, they're equivocating it with the political action. Well,
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  Unknown: yeah, it it so race
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  is a nation,
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  but a nation where a group of people are. Right? A country can have
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  many nations in it and under that definition. It can. Because They could. Yeah. Ethiopian,
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  yeah, from one
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  kind of race.
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  Right? There are other races with Ethiopia. You just look at us and, you know, some of them look from Southern Africa, and other of them look very much lighter. So there's a difference in race.
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  I mean, you can you can look at the Chinese. Some are taller. Others are shorter.
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  Right? There are differences.
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  So that's why then you can use the word race to talk about racing, like car racing.
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  Yeah. Has multiple definitions.
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  So in this case So what'd your so what'd your son do here at this point? So I told him before we got to the to the booth. Right?
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  I explained that to him,
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  and he said, you have to be careful.
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  You know you're not any of those Indians or Pacific Islander.
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  So there's the two that could potentially apply to you is black and white.
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  Now
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  this may appear to you,
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  as a race,
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  like a skin color race,
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  but that's not what this is. Because if it was, then they would include Asian in here,
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  but they don't. Or the African would be included in their blacks,
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  like, in multiple races of blacks. This page would be two pages long just on that question trying to pick all the kind of different races throughout the world.
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  Right. But they only have a black and white.
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  So that means it's a political status.
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  So look at the what is the common commonality
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  amongst all these four options?
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  I told them. K? American Indians,
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  they call themselves our nation.
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  Okay? Asia Pacific Islander,
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  they are in their little bubble
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  in their own nation.
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  Okay?
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  So they and then so that had to be some sort of political status.
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  And then they have a black had to be a political status,
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  and white had to be a political status.
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  So, therefore,
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  you have changed your status. You've defined
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  what you are,
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  and you have picked
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  white to be your political
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  status. You could have picked black, but you chose white. Showed I showed him that on paper.
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  Unknown: This doesn't have anything to do with the residency citizen in The United States or anything? It's just a question on what race are you with those options. Right?
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  Unknown: Not yeah.
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  We haven't gotten to that part yet. It's kinda weird. The name.
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  So I said to him,
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  leave that blank. Don't answer that question,
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  but it comes down to it and they force you to sign,
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  then you have no choice but to pick white because you've made your changed your political status.
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  Okay? Just be careful of that.
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  Alright. He says he understood. Okay, dad. I got it. He goes, okay. So we go to the front counter. Finally, we made it. What do you know? There's a very nice black lady's in there.
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  She's chatting and giggling with us. And finally, we give her all the paperwork, and then we I attach a cover letter
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  with my
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  affidavit of nationality.
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  And that cover letter
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  just simply requests it. Find
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  my nationality status
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  in the in my short matter to your nationality status attached.
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  Please place this permanently in my administrative record. A little bit longer than that, but the gist of his dad.
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  Unknown: Uh-huh.
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  Unknown: And it is also found in the state departments. It's also been filed with the state department.
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  So
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  so I thought it says and the lady said, I can't take this. I can't. So she pushed her back. She all of a sudden powered up.
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  And I told her, ma'am, this is really important.
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  We cannot it's a it's a it's a violation of federal law to pretend
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  that we are a US citizen
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  after we've made a call that we're not. So you're gonna need to accept that letter.
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  Just you can throw it away. Scan it and delete it. My responsibility is to make sure that I've given that to you. You guys can do whatever you want with it.
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  Okay. So we went back and forth, back and forth.
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  And she finally said, okay. I'll scan it, but back office is gonna delete it. Yeah. You that's not that's not our responsibility.
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  And and then she goes, finally gets to the question.
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  And so we got over that hump first. And then we finally looks at the application form. She says, hey. You haven't picked you haven't decided on that.
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  Which one are you on the race? You haven't answered that. You're gonna need to answer that. She's very nice and very friendly, very polite, very respectful.
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  And my son thought thought it through and thought it through and thought, and he says,
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  I'm white.
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  Please check white. Are you sure? You don't look like white to me. And
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  then he just stayed quiet
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  and just looked at her. I backed away from that experience. I just kept my mouth shut.
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  So what happened at that moment was, I guess, your race is what you feel you are.
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  And then my son said, that's correct. Well, did he stays? I told her.
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  Your gender is what you feel you are too. Whichever.
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  Yeah. Exactly. I I think that's what she was referring to.
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  And then she finally put white in there. She marked it herself. She asked him to sign. He signed.
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  Not a US citizen
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  and white.
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  He
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  filed it in.
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  Now that was a few weeks ago. I was there. And now my with that information, now my wife takes it this morning to to the DMV. Okay?
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  Okay. So my son, when they denied him, says, I'm gonna need to make a phone call. So he calls me up.
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  Right.
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  And he is I I said, I talked to the, you know, first lady. She says, okay. I need to speak with the manager.
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  So the manager comes
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  and the manager sits on on the usher called Booth 31, which is kinda isolated, Booth Booth 31.
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  So they she takes them both. She's sitting in Booth 31.
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  They put me on a speakerphone.
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  I said, good morning. And I thanked her for her time. Very polite, very respectful.
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  And she was very nice to me too.
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  And,
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  so she goes,
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  you know, we have process and procedure in here
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  and he's gonna have to pick a US citizen, she told me. He's gonna have to pick one if he's he's got I see that he's got all the documentation,
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  but if he can't put yes on that question
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  after he gave us all these documents, he's born here. He's got a passport. He's got a birth certificate. He's got all these things.
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  Okay. If he can't put a US citizen, then we won't be able to give you a driver's license.
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  Yeah. And then I told her,
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  so my wife
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  had, it happens to have her passport with her.
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  Okay.
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  And she had the passport page open
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  where it says national slash citizen of The United States.
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  Yes. And she tells her, we are national,
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  but not citizens. Shows you right there.
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  Okay.
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  Unknown: And then it kinda one kinda discussion kinda But that shocked her that shocked her shocked her, didn't it, a little bit?
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  Unknown: No. That not as much as what I told her.
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  Okay?
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  After all of that,
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  I said to her,
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  ma'am, you cannot deny us. We are not a US citizen,
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  and you cannot deny us driver's license.
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  It is federal violation for you,
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  civil rights violation for you to deny us a driver's license.
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  K?
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  And then I said, I called out.
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  Thank you. I'll be happy to hear this.
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  42 USC 1982,
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  equal rights under the law.
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  Okay. Okay?
• 25:52
  Yeah. You are in violation of federal my son was later telling me that her hand was shaking.
• 25:58
  Was also wearing the camera. She's recording the whole incident.
• 26:02
  Okay. She was visibly upset,
• 26:05
  somewhat irritated.
• 26:07
  Our tone of voice changed Probably the whole frustrated
• 26:10
  Unknown: and
• 26:13
  Unknown: irritated. Probably for yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. I am you know? I
• 26:19
  yeah. Yeah.
• 26:20
  So and then and
• 26:22
  so,
• 26:24
  additionally
• 26:26
  too, we said, you know, I I said to how come other people from other nations, if citizenship is required, how come driver's license is extended to other people from other nations?
• 26:38
  And she I asked her that as well. They have to show documentation
• 26:41
  that they're here lawfully.
• 26:43
  And so just like the way you have to show us, Sergeant. Okay. I understand. And that's what this affidavit is. Someone from another country yeah. Someone from other country gets to have a driver's license to have the right documentation.
• 26:55
  Here, we're telling you we have a right documentation,
• 26:59
  and I call out federal regulations.
• 27:01
  That isn't truly in effect here today,
• 27:04
  and you're denying a driver's license.
• 27:09
  And it's just at this point, I cannot she she basically said, this is our process of procedure.
• 27:16
  And so
• 27:17
  if he can if he wants to if he wants to put yes, we'll give him a driver's license. Otherwise,
• 27:23
  Unknown: we just don't have the process to proceed any further. Okay. Alright. At this point, I would have said and you probably would have brought it up earlier.
• 27:32
  But, yes, I am a citizen, but I'm not a citizen of The United States. That's federal
• 27:37
  citizenship.
• 27:38
  Am a citizen of The United States Of America.
• 27:42
  That's a national
• 27:43
  citizenship
• 27:45
  that is referred to in this cover page of the passport
• 27:48
  where it says they're only issued to US citizens a and nationals b.
• 27:53
  K? I think I'd approached it. Yeah. At least given her that to noodle on a little bit. I am a citizen.
• 28:00
  Now the the way that you can stay within your,
• 28:03
  balance here that you're saying you've got is to just simply accept the affidavit stating exactly what type of citizen I am because there's not just one.
• 28:13
  I think that's the way I'd handle it, but you did great. I'm not trying to,
• 28:18
  dish you. I'm just saying,
• 28:20
  but that boy, now you got her right square
• 28:24
  in the equivocation.
• 28:26
  She thought she's frustrated before.
• 28:28
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah. Hold on, Paul. Yes. And so the reason
• 28:32
  mhmm. The the reason the reason I didn't I didn't tell I thought about telling her that,
• 28:38
  but the reason I didn't say that, Roger,
• 28:40
  is because from that from the position she's at, just pretty much the entire people in the whole country,
• 28:47
  right, for US
• 28:48
  citizens
• 28:50
  are Americans.
• 28:52
  Yes. They're American nations. I used and that would be
• 28:57
  that would be correct.
• 28:58
  So if I use the same word to describe what I am and she uses the same word to describe what she is,
• 29:05
  I
• 29:06
  equivocation gets even tighter and tighter and tighter.
• 29:10
  Unknown: Now you can see our enemies. If you're new and listen to this if you're new and listen to this, hold on, Zana.
• 29:17
  This is the crux of everything we do right here is this little term called equivocation,
• 29:22
  and they're taking these words and assigning an opposite definition.
• 29:26
  That's why to present this to somebody,
• 29:30
  the one of the easiest, simplest ways is to present them with the equivocation.
• 29:35
  Not just half of it, all of it. Are you a citizen of United States, or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? Now you got both of them covered because they go, well, aren't those the same thing? You go, well, may probably not.
• 29:48
  Here.
• 29:49
  I'm telling you I'm this one, and then to clarify that, I'm gonna give you this piece of paper that not only was subs
• 29:57
  submitted to the secretary of state, it was also submitted to the passport office,
• 30:02
  and they issued me this passport with this number on that.
• 30:05
  You're not gonna issue me something when the highest identification
• 30:09
  in the land will?
• 30:12
  I think you're missing something here.
• 30:16
  Paul.
• 30:16
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Unknown: One one particular way to go the go through this, but it's it's gonna place a mountain in front of him. He's gonna have to climb and decide whether or not he wants to.
• 30:30
  But before
• 30:31
  he left,
• 30:34
  request in writing
• 30:36
  that they refused him a driver's license.
• 30:40
  Yeah. And then immediately go out and buy a used car,
• 30:44
  and then go to the DMV
• 30:46
  and try to register
• 30:49
  that car in his name with no driver's license because he was refused a driver's license.
• 30:56
  And then get that proof in writing,
• 30:58
  and then just drive that car with impunity.
• 31:00
  Yeah. Because anybody that pulls him over, he's got paperwork and he said, oh, no. No. Don't don't put an 18 year old kid in that position. Yeah. No. Well
• 31:10
  Unknown: Well, here's
• 31:11
  here's here's here's the option. So I I told my son, and then he he
• 31:16
  was kinda very excited to have his driver's license and go places and do things.
• 31:20
  Unknown: And now he's So not not he
• 31:23
  Unknown: was it was Can I ask my question real quick, Gonzana?
• 31:27
  Yes.
• 31:28
  Unknown: Yes, please. I I don't mean to interrupt you, but but No. No. That's okay. I'm just curious of
• 31:34
  what state are you in?
• 31:36
  Unknown: Oh, we're He's in Thailand.
• 31:38
  Unknown: Texas. Texas. Well, I know he's in Thailand now, but what state does he do? Yeah. So do you still have the option of the state driver's license, or were you was he applying for the federal?
• 31:48
  It's a federal driver's license. You don't have the state option there anymore? Woah. Woah.
• 31:54
  Unknown: But no. What? He's applying for a what?
• 31:57
  Hold it. He's applying for his driver's issued
• 32:01
  by the state of Texas.
• 32:03
  Not federal.
• 32:04
  Unknown: It adheres to federal laws. Called a federal ID now, Roger. That's what I was wondering the difference because that's where you go from residency to US citizen. See?
• 32:15
  Ah. When you're applying for the state license, which is what I got, which you won't be able to enter federal buildings with this license Okay. Or you won't be able to fly. Gotcha. And that's okay by me. And so it's still the residency is the pertinent thing Oh, gotcha. Which I wasn't sure of. So, okay, with the federal Oh, see, I oh, so this this five star thing is a federal license because you're really adhering to some of their strict requirements. Is that right, basically?
• 32:44
  Unknown: No. No. No. That's not it, Roger. That's not it. Okay. Well, I'm confused. I only know one guy. Well, I know of a regular state issued driver's license, and I know a CDL
• 32:58
  commercial driver's licenses.
• 32:59
  Those are the only two I know about.
• 33:02
  Unknown: They still say issued by the state of
• 33:05
  Unknown: those, but it's not mine. They're all federal
• 33:08
  franchises.
• 33:09
  Right? All the states have for like,
• 33:12
  they're franchisee,
• 33:14
  but that's that's not the point of the here here, the form itself.
• 33:19
  And I asked the lady the first time I was there,
• 33:22
  why is that question there? Is this did did Texas put this question?
• 33:26
  Does Texas care as to whether we're black, white, and Indian? There aren't any Indians here that's worth mentioning.
• 33:33
  So
• 33:35
  what's the deal here?
• 33:37
  So she says, no. We've been asking the same question, she told me. I don't know why we have that. And if it was Texas, why would Texas care
• 33:45
  what your race is?
• 33:47
  We don't care.
• 33:49
  Just keeps kinda racist.
• 33:50
  Sounds like
• 33:52
  Unknown: sounds like Texas is a little racist to me.
• 33:56
  Unknown: No. Because it's a federal document.
• 33:58
  I know. I'm federal form.
• 34:01
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a federal form, and the federal form has defined the license,
• 34:06
  the race to be your political status, not not not your
• 34:11
  state of California.
• 34:12
  Unknown: If you get one of these, he can go get on an airplane or go in a federal building. But if he doesn't,
• 34:18
  all he has to do is get his passport card, which accepted his affidavit with no damn problem, and give him that. Yeah.
• 34:26
  Unknown: Well no. Because those those days are gone,
• 34:29
  Roger. When I lived in Arizona for for many years, my, Arizona license plate to that that I'm sorry. Lice driver's license
• 34:38
  expired
• 34:38
  in fifty years.
• 34:41
  Unknown: Fifty?
• 34:42
  Unknown: Okay.
• 34:43
  50.
• 34:44
  I think was it forty or fifty? It's been a while. But thing I've gotten past five years.
• 34:50
  Unknown: No. They actually tell me now, Rogers, that are eight years. I've never heard of the fifty year, but a eight year is what I applied for Yeah. Last time. So mine is good until '30. So so I'm gonna say I must I did it in '22,
• 35:03
  and it literally up in the right hand corner has the state of Ohio and says not for federal ID.
• 35:10
  Unknown: Not for federal ID. That's the difference. Well, Texas is like a a bad Talk about Real ID. Real ID is what your time is. Hey.
• 35:19
  Unknown: Yes, Nancy. That's the term I was looking for. The Times,
• 35:23
  they are a changing.
• 35:26
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 35:27
  So they the the federal government has forced,
• 35:30
  you
• 35:31
  know, states to to to give a federal Yeah. Real ID,
• 35:35
  Unknown: and it expires in It should be optional. It is in Virginia. It's optional.
• 35:40
  Unknown: Yes. Yeah. But should be optional. Transitioned.
• 35:44
  Yeah. Well, you guys, man. You got Texas is going a little wacko down there, Zana. You're letting all these Indians in. There's 300 mosques in the state.
• 35:53
  They're they're they're letting all these technical Indians in. They take over a supervisor's
• 35:58
  job, and then everybody underneath him is replaced with Indians. I'm seeing it not only, of course, in Texas, but all over the country. But who your governor over there ought to be running out of rail out of town on a rail right behind Trump.
• 36:13
  Unknown: Wow.
• 36:14
  Yeah.
• 36:15
  That's it. That's it. That's a different story. Yeah. Mean, it's a
• 36:19
  Unknown: I remember a couple years ago when he went over to India and met with Modi.
• 36:23
  And then a couple of years later, look what you got.
• 36:27
  Unknown: Exactly.
• 36:28
  There's some issues there. I mean, governors
• 36:32
  have very, like, important role in to advance business and, you know, whatever.
• 36:38
  And, if there are investors putting billions of dollars in taxes
• 36:43
  Yeah. They will they will do what they have to do. Right? Well and like Georgia.
• 36:48
  Unknown: That just like Georgia used to be such a great red conservative Southern state,
• 36:52
  they have just totally screwed Georgia up. Target number one in the whole US on data centers. Out of the 3,000 proposed,
• 37:00
  300 of them are gonna be in Atlanta, a 150 of them surrounding Atlanta.
• 37:06
  Good old Southern Georgia.
• 37:08
  You know how they did that? My buddy up there told me. They turned the state
• 37:13
  with tax credits from movie companies that are doing productions down there. Yeah.
• 37:20
  And that's what they used evidently. That's what they used in Louisiana and a couple other ones too. So they come in here, and they're they're experts at it. The tax crap, and that's what all your damn windmills are. It's just a tax write off.
• 37:33
  All that's tax crap, and they come in and ruin your state with a corrupt governor like the one that runs Texas and Georgia, and probably
• 37:41
  most of the other states. Hate to say it.
• 37:45
  Unknown: You know?
• 37:46
  Unknown: Hate to say we're getting a break. We may get fish back, and there's the governor of Florida. I hope.
• 37:52
  That guy would shake the monkeys up. Okay?
• 37:57
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Unknown: Well So, anyway, well, Zahanna, is there more we interrupted your story yet?
• 38:03
  Unknown: Yes. Go ahead, please. To finish to finish my story, Roger, real quick. Yeah. So, yeah, my son just I'm not gonna sign. He walked out, and I told him, you know, you get to fight live to fight another day. Just step away, get some bring some, you know, you know, air
• 38:18
  and kind of just take it easy, rest up, and Yep. Regroup.
• 38:23
  And but here's what I'm gonna do. I
• 38:27
  told my son the same thing.
• 38:30
  It's a federal violation.
• 38:33
  Right? It says all US citizens shall have the same right
• 38:37
  in every state territory
• 38:38
  as enjoyed by white citizens.
• 38:41
  And white citizens are not too difficult to find in their definitions,
• 38:45
  which are now redefined to be nationals.
• 38:47
  Right?
• 38:48
  Any lawyer
• 38:50
  that has,
• 38:52
  you know, an ounce of attention
• 38:55
  would be able to figure that out.
• 38:57
  So
• 38:59
  Don't don't don't get don't don't don't
• 39:03
  Unknown: get out too far over your skis there, Zana. Go ahead.
• 39:06
  They're turning out some pretty crappy lawyers.
• 39:09
  Okay?
• 39:11
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I have Barnes in mind.
• 39:15
  If he if he if he puts a website in there, it says seventeen seventy six Law Center Yeah. Right. And he ignores this,
• 39:24
  Okay. And then, you know, on Well to hell.
• 39:28
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, don't forget. He's got a lot of there's a lot of fish flopping
• 39:32
  around to be thrown in that skillet for Barnes. Don't forget that. Hey, Raj. We've
• 39:37
  Yeah. I've never approached him with any of this. I've just been waiting and waiting and waiting and let I want somebody else to tell you about it. I don't wanna tell you about it because you don't listen. Yes. Who was the hey, Roger there.
• 39:50
  Unknown: Hey, Raj. This is Ed from Michigan.
• 39:53
  Unknown: Yes, Ed.
• 39:54
  Unknown: Yeah. I just got a I just wanted to say something on this, Exana thing.
• 39:59
  Exana,
• 40:00
  the you know, we're technically
• 40:03
  are citizens of The United States,
• 40:09
  But the,
• 40:10
  you know, and I've been kind of working on this issue as well for other reasons,
• 40:15
  you know, but I think
• 40:17
  that Paul,
• 40:19
  you know, the Paul Andrew Mitchell guy who's got the three
• 40:23
  kinds of
• 40:25
  United States definitions,
• 40:28
  I think you might want to look at that.
• 40:30
  I think your son should probably file paperwork along with his
• 40:35
  signature
• 40:37
  know, telling him what kind of US citizen he is.
• 40:41
  Well Because I think, technically, we are US citizens, but we're a different flavor, and they don't recognize it generally.
• 40:48
  Unknown: We're citizens of The United I'm sorry. Hold on, Ed. Hold on,
• 40:53
  Jim Crow.
• 40:54
  Jim Crow is federal citizen
• 40:57
  or a state citizen, black and white.
• 41:00
  Right. We are
• 41:02
  federal citizen or state citizen. One has of America at the end and the other doesn't. That one's a federal citizen.
• 41:09
  The other's a state citizen that says now a national.
• 41:13
  And here's what I would say instead of
• 41:16
  I I would ask Gazzana, are you gonna go back and since he's been turned down, are you gonna go back and ask for your administrate his administrative appeal when you get back from Thailand?
• 41:28
  Unknown: That's that's what I'm going to do. But Okay. Before I I do that, I wanna get like Paul said earlier,
• 41:35
  I'm gonna find a way to regroup a little bit. He said he will wait until I get back. So, hey. I told him you can go. Sign that. Put a a little mark in that checkbox and get your driver's license, and this whole thing would be behind you
• 41:49
  or
• 41:50
  not.
• 41:51
  So it's up to you.
• 41:52
  I can't tell you what to do. And he said, I'll just wait till he get back, he says. I'll be happy to click US citizen if you will let me submit a specification
• 42:03
  Unknown: as to which type of US citizen because there's more than one.
• 42:08
  Unknown: Yeah. I think that's They denied that. So
• 42:11
  the here here is what I would say to
• 42:13
  the gentleman that just spoke. I apologize. I didn't catch your name. Yeah. Ed. Ed from Michigan. Yeah. So here's the thing. We have to be careful
• 42:23
  on that
• 42:25
  US citizenship.
• 42:26
  U US stands for United States citizen of The United States. If you go to the fourteenth amendment,
• 42:34
  it says right there in bold black letters
• 42:38
  who
• 42:39
  United States citizens are. They are born or naturalized,
• 42:43
  and you have to be subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
• 42:47
  which is a federal jurisdiction.
• 42:49
  So that end is like Roger teaches us.
• 42:53
  If you are
• 42:54
  saying that you are a US citizen, then you're admitting that you're
• 42:59
  subject to the federal jurisdiction.
• 43:02
  You can't be there and say, I'm not that.
• 43:06
  Unknown: Well, not if you clarified it. You said, yes. I'll check it, but you gotta accept this affidavit that's on file with the secretary of state that issued me this passport with this number that clarifies
• 43:17
  because there's more than one type.
• 43:21
  Unknown: No. They she said she
• 43:23
  said she said our process is we have if you're gonna submit a document, it has to be one of these five documents that we require. Okay. Your That'll be fine. This and that. Anything beyond that, we we've
• 43:36
  Unknown: I'll click it. That you won't take any additional document. The secretary of state accepted it. The passport office accepted it and issued me a passport on it, and you will not accept it?
• 43:49
  Unknown: Oh, no. No. So so she she won't accept it because
• 43:53
  mind you, Roger Okay. Why would she why would she
• 43:57
  yeah. Why would she come back
• 44:00
  Unknown: with the whole scared. Her hands were shaking. Exactly.
• 44:04
  Unknown: Her hands were shaking. Her camera was turned on with the light on. So you go.
• 44:09
  Unknown: Ma'am, can you please tell me who I could talk to in my next step in my administrative appeal?
• 44:15
  And then you go in and you show them that stuff. They
• 44:18
  will have to take a little more notice on it. K? And why why does it say right here in the passport
• 44:26
  that they will issue them to nationals,
• 44:28
  which is what I'm telling you I am, and I'm trying to give you the paperwork to prove it and reinforce it, and you won't accept it.
• 44:37
  Okay? Now
• 44:39
  they now what about if they turn you down?
• 44:42
  Well, what's the next step in my administrative appeal?
• 44:45
  I don't know if they'd have an appeal administrative hearing,
• 44:49
  or if that would suffice to say you've exhausted I I wouldn't think it would be. You've exhausted your administrative remedies.
• 44:57
  Now you can go sue them in court. But then now you're getting into all this other stuff that could so easily be clarified
• 45:04
  right here with this lady if she just listened.
• 45:08
  And I wish somebody would get that law because I know it's out there. You just referred to it as Anna. It is a federal crime
• 45:16
  to say I'm a citizen of The United States if I'm not.
• 45:19
  One word not. It's a federal crime, lady. So you're gonna require me to commit a federal crime to get a license? I I think something's wrong with your process.
• 45:31
  Unknown: Well, when I absolutely. When the entire when the wait and just think about when you use a driver's license, you use it for banking. It's not just for driving. It's a driver's license, but you don't use it for driving alone. Use it for banking. Use it for license for other things. Well, here use it for everything. You can't put that weight on her shoulder. You're
• 45:52
  Unknown: gonna make you get one to get on a freaking plane or go in a federal building.
• 45:57
  Unknown: Yeah. So it's not just a driver's license.
• 46:01
  Unknown: So He's a to drive. Yeah.
• 46:04
  He's on a does that? Yes.
• 46:07
  Unknown: Don't Daniel,
• 46:08
  Unknown: does your son already have a passport?
• 46:12
  Unknown: Yes. He has already has a passport and already submitted it. He has it. He's got a birth certificate. He's got it.
• 46:20
  So she she just looks at look at all the documentation.
• 46:23
  I have everything I need. You just need to put mark that as yes as a US citizen.
• 46:29
  And were gonna mark that as no, we don't have a process for you, so you can't do that. The REAL ID is optional in Texas if you're just gonna use it for driving.
• 46:40
  Unknown: So he can use the
• 46:41
  state
• 46:43
  driver license
• 46:44
  for driving and his passport
• 46:47
  for everything else, federal buildings,
• 46:49
  flying.
• 46:51
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. He you know Yeah. We know that. We know that. Know that, John. Yeah. We know that with I I tried I got pulled over once, and I tried to just monkey with them, see what happens. You know?
• 47:03
  And I just whipped up my passport and gave it to him, and he accepted it thinking that it was a driver's license.
• 47:09
  But once it was in his hand,
• 47:12
  oh, and realized what just happened,
• 47:15
  the guy
• 47:16
  lost
• 47:17
  his mind.
• 47:19
  So angry. You wouldn't believe it.
• 47:21
  And I just remained as calm and collected,
• 47:25
  didn't upset, didn't didn't do anything.
• 47:27
  Anyway, I I well, at the end, I decided to I mean, a whole bunch of cops came, and I decided to just give him my driver's license,
• 47:36
  they fined me 500.
• 47:38
  That's fine. Spayed it.
• 47:41
  Unknown: But I wasn't driving in Commerce,
• 47:43
  Ossifer.
• 47:46
  Unknown: Yeah. They they don't care. That's one of them.
• 47:49
  One of the young officer there actually, the these are sheriffs. Okay? Sheriff's department.
• 47:54
  He
• 47:55
  comes over and he says, sir, he says to me,
• 48:00
  all drivers
• 48:01
  are supposed to required to provide driver's license.
• 48:06
  And you said you are a US citizen. Right? No. I told him I'm not. All drivers are required to show driver's license upon request.
• 48:14
  And I said, correct.
• 48:16
  All
• 48:17
  drivers
• 48:18
  Driver. US citizens are required
• 48:21
  to show. Because it says it in the state state of Texas code
• 48:26
  that US citizens, you get pulled over, you have to when asked, you have to always show your driver's license.
• 48:33
  There is no wiggle room for US citizens. And so he's right, but for US citizens,
• 48:39
  which I'm not.
• 48:42
  And,
• 48:43
  so and then he was kinda confused and went away, and the other guy came.
• 48:48
  So
• 48:49
  Unknown: Can I stop for just a second to insert something for the Not interested? No. That's okay. It's okay. Apologize. Well, no. No. No. No. No. That's okay. I wanted to impress upon them examples
• 49:00
  like you here,
• 49:02
  William,
• 49:03
  with his Georgia situation,
• 49:06
  and the facts that that these folks I mean, obviously, you can hear from this conversation.
• 49:12
  If Fazana didn't know what he was talking about, that this interview, this lady would never gotten past first base.
• 49:18
  So
• 49:19
  this is the fact that now we're gonna come back and what do I tell you? You're only as free as you learn and have command of the information.
• 49:27
  Because if you can't address situations
• 49:29
  like this,
• 49:30
  a belligerent claimant, you can do it nicely. You don't have to have baseball bat.
• 49:35
  You can do it nicely. But if you can't address peep situations
• 49:39
  like this and you know your stuff like Gazana does, well, you're not free.
• 49:43
  You just gotta hold your head and turn around,
• 49:46
  walk away. Well, I'm gonna do what the nice lady told me.
• 49:50
  K?
• 49:51
  She gotta learn the information. The point I'm trying to impress and and often often do
• 49:57
  because this is the you know, it's not that you got your freedom. You got your freedom when you file the paper. It's the degree
• 50:03
  of your freedom. Let's just use it like a thirty third degree Freemason. Well, you're a thirty third degree national, Lizana.
• 50:11
  Congratulations.
• 50:13
  Unknown: Well, thank you, Roger. Thank you. I I don't know. It's a real,
• 50:18
  just honor, real blessing to be in your presence, Roger. It it's, it's just that that the spiritual,
• 50:26
  level that I feel,
• 50:28
  is
• 50:29
  just, it's just I just can't describe it. Imagine power. I am so eternally
• 50:35
  great, grateful to have come across to you,
• 50:38
  and and understand your your your teaching.
• 50:42
  And, I was, actually,
• 50:45
  you know, I was, I emailed you before I left to Thailand and I was kind of rushing a lot of things going on, but I, I just thought that I would just send this,
• 50:54
  sent it to Larry. I don't know if Larry had a chance to see it, but I prepared a little bit of presentation. I decoded your, your interview
• 51:01
  with a
• 51:03
  badass ankle,
• 51:05
  Unknown: Oh yeah. Then
• 51:07
  Unknown: I put together PowerPoint presentation, about 22 slides.
• 51:11
  And
• 51:13
  I presented it to
• 51:14
  a couple, very successful couple and
• 51:17
  in the process as I was teaching them and they were listening very intentfully.
• 51:23
  Roger,
• 51:24
  I just, I just want to, I don't know what I can say to you, but I was just, I just eternally so grateful to you
• 51:31
  and what the work you've done to
• 51:34
  get us to this point. And it took fifteen years
• 51:37
  for me to understand, for you to have done it and for me to come to see this.
• 51:42
  Then the level that probably I'm the only Ethiopian
• 51:46
  like, in a 100,000,000 people
• 51:48
  to have come here to understand this.
• 51:52
  Unknown: And who's ever been free? You know?
• 51:55
  As Anna, you almost break up tears.
• 51:58
  Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I
• 52:01
  Unknown: I Roger, I am so very grateful. And and then the understanding
• 52:06
  the understanding,
• 52:07
  Roger, that all of those that died to defend this,
• 52:12
  okay, and
• 52:14
  and be upon us, before us, and, emotional feelings that I have in those that have tried to figure out what has gone wrong with their country
• 52:23
  and and tried to do something about it and lost everything in the process.
• 52:29
  Yeah. Yep. Right? And then it's it's just, the sacrifice that went on. Well And and the key is in the entanglement
• 52:38
  of these words that we I would never have any one of us would never have understood it if you had not come to understand this yourself. Nope. Nope. You'd been living in the country
• 52:47
  because
• 52:48
  of it.
• 52:49
  Unknown: Yep.
• 52:50
  Well, I don't know what end effect we're gonna have here. That's but I keep teaching you guys and teach as many of you as I can because I think we can we can use their dialectic principle,
• 53:01
  and I can take their little pet phrase never again.
• 53:04
  And I on a fake whole hoax, and I can bring that over and say, never again on this voluntary servitude thing.
• 53:11
  And and I hope and my prayer is that we will affect change. Says, I don't want your money. I want change. I want these bastards exposed.
• 53:20
  I want them never to be able to do something like this again to this degree.
• 53:24
  And this information can do that. It the wider spread we get it. So, when I couldn't give I couldn't get anybody to understand it, and I couldn't get anybody,
• 53:35
  therefore, to take up the ball and dribble it. And years ago, I just had to say, lord, okay. I guess I'm it. You know? Nobody else can understand it. Nobody else is gonna get out and do it, therefore, and I know how important it is. He sensed it back then,
• 53:53
  and so I'm your guy.
• 53:55
  Alright? I'm your guy.
• 53:57
  And I've been doing it, and as my father drilled into my head,
• 54:01
  I thousands of times,
• 54:03
  anything worth doing is worth doing well.
• 54:07
  And I'm gonna do it to the absolute best of my ability, and I think that maybe has gleaned some results because look at these fine group of people that gather here a number of days a week.
• 54:19
  Even if they've been here for years like Lisa and hear the same thing over and over and over again,
• 54:25
  they're still here.
• 54:27
  Unknown: I have another comment too, Roger. Yes. Go go ahead, Lisa, please. Another option as honor for your son is this thing called the doctrine of necessity.
• 54:38
  Yeah. That he goes to bed and admits that he's or says that he's a US citizen,
• 54:43
  and then you do a doctrine of necessity
• 54:46
  explaining and attach his affidavit
• 54:49
  Yep. Of citizenship
• 54:51
  and notif and I don't know who you notified there, though. Do you the head of Department of Transportation
• 54:55
  Unknown: No. No. No. No. No. You're you're we're giving them ammunition for an administrative
• 55:00
  appeal right here.
• 55:01
  They're gonna sandbag it and go in there and beat this person over the head with it.
• 55:07
  Unknown: Oh, I well, if he didn't want to do that, if he just wanted to go ahead and get his license and then notify through the doctrine of necessity.
• 55:15
  Unknown: Okay. Well, that might be another approach. I understand that. He wants his daddy back to go in there with him, and my sense is his daddy wants to be back to go in there with him.
• 55:27
  Unknown: Yeah. Wait.
• 55:28
  Wait. Wait. And so, yeah, I I I told him that's that son, I I thank you very much, Lisa. Okay.
• 55:35
  Yes. I explained to him. I am aware
• 55:38
  of a doctrine of necessity.
• 55:40
  And the problem with that is,
• 55:44
  and I explained this to my son earlier, you could do that. There's a thing called doctrine of necessity, and I explained that to him.
• 55:51
  And so as a doctrine of necessity,
• 55:54
  the affidavit and the cover letter
• 55:57
  should suffice.
• 55:58
  Even now you can add another cover letter.
• 56:01
  But they are telling me they will not accept any form of paper
• 56:06
  at all other than those that are required, about five or six of them.
• 56:12
  Okay. And then these additional documentations,
• 56:16
  they
• 56:17
  they're right. They don't have to accept them, and then they won't accept them. No. They're not. And you're right. Good. They've only got one
• 56:26
  Unknown: option. And you're saying, yes. I will check that, and I'll comply with your little requirements,
• 56:31
  but you've gotta accept this documentation that specifies what type of citizen I am because you don't have any options on your form for that.
• 56:41
  Unknown: Yeah. No. There isn't. And then a great example, and then I hear after show hours and stuff like that, I hear that people are you know, that the subject of personhood
• 56:51
  is is something that that comes up a lot.
• 56:55
  Yeah. You know, I'll come to It's very important question. I'll hold off a little. Yeah.
• 57:00
  Okay. Well,
• 57:01
  police officers another angle. Personhood. Right?
• 57:04
  Unknown: Right. Yes. They do. Let me there's another angle. Do they have to have an OMB number on that form?
• 57:10
  It's federal stuff, so well, why not? It's federal requirements on their form.
• 57:15
  Shouldn't it have to adhere to OMB and and and the transparency laws? Shouldn't it have to be all constitutional?
• 57:23
  Unknown: No. That's for other, like,
• 57:25
  class a driver's license. Those are different. Those are needed before other document, other federal documents,
• 57:32
  not not for class c driver's license for regular, you know, regular people to just go to grocery store.
• 57:40
  Unknown: Right. Well, of course, all this changed since I've been gone. I knew it was happening, but I didn't know these extremities where you can't even show them in any way, shape, or form what you are, and they're gonna just funnel you right into one choice, and they won't let you put any kind of explanatory
• 57:56
  statement.
• 57:57
  These are the questions that need to be brought up in an appeal, Mazana,
• 58:01
  and I want you there.
• 58:04
  Unknown: Yeah. Oh oh, yeah. I will most most of my son said, I'll wait for you. And the lady, when I brought up the federal code,
• 58:12
  42
• 58:12
  ESC,
• 58:13
  when when I brought him, he told me her hand started shaking. The paper she was holding was shaking.
• 58:20
  Wow. And then the whole thing has been reported with the cameras because she had a camera on her chest. She brought that in with her when she came to hospital. Okay. Double check an 82 against 83.
• 58:31
  Unknown: Okay?
• 58:32
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have them both pulled up. Okay. Okay. 81 versus
• 58:38
  83.
• 58:39
  Yes. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, I I I called I called back. Well, wait. For
• 58:44
  Unknown: anybody new yeah. Let's clarify that because I go I want them to understand.
• 58:48
  This is title 42 of The United States code. This is civil rights code number.
• 58:54
  And those sections, nineteen eighty two and three, I know three for sure,
• 58:59
  start out with this statement.
• 59:01
  The privileges and immunities of the citizens of The United States are equal to those of the white
• 59:07
  citizens
• 59:08
  right there in The United States code. They never changed it Mhmm. From when they brought it forward from the Jim Crow days when they started compiling the United States code in the twenties,
• 59:18
  knowing that they were gonna really utilize it starting in the thirties.
• 59:23
  Go ahead, Azan. I'm sorry. I interrupted. Yeah. If there's any new people there, I don't want some of this information going over your head. Okay? So do I want you to see there's a context here. There's a reason we do what we do. It's all proven.
• 59:37
  Never one of these facts in fifteen years has ever been rebutted
• 59:42
  or corrected of an important fact other than a date or a spelling or mer,
• 59:47
  with her pronunciation police.
• 59:49
  Go ahead, Azana.
• 59:52
  Unknown: Okay. USC
• 59:54
  42 USC nineteen eighty two.
• 59:57
  Every time you pull up the page,
• 59:59
  every twenty four hours, it it this it says the little red text in there says,
• 1:00:04
  text text
• 1:00:05
  contains
• 1:00:06
  those laws in effect on I pulled it up on in this particular,
• 1:00:11
  document, I pulled it up on May 23.
• 1:00:13
  So 05/23/2026.
• 1:00:16
  Every day It says goes up increments by one day. Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah. You can't you can't have you can't have, you know, since all citizens of The United States shall have the same rights in every state and territory as it enjoyed by white citizens.
• 1:00:31
  Unknown: Really?
• 1:00:32
  Unknown: Wait a minute.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah. US citizens and then
• 1:00:38
  you can't square that. I was I was at the when I went to buy, I got the car for my son from Honda dealers dealership.
• 1:00:45
  And then this this guy, the sales guy, I really liked the sales guy. He's just a great,
• 1:00:51
  Cleve. His name is Cleve. Great guy. Got to know him, met my wife, met my daughter, he just great connections.
• 1:00:58
  And finally say, hey, he taught me a couple of tricks and about this and that. And so, well, you know what? You've been so kind to show me these things that are I'm gonna show you something. Let me show you. You do would you say that you are a US citizen? Yes. I am. Okay. Just pull up on your computer. Let's pull up. 42USC1982.
• 1:01:17
  Yeah. Just read it out.
• 1:01:19
  He read it. So you would think that you would say that you are a white man. Right? I said, yeah. Yeah. I am. Okay. But but then he said you you said you are a US citizen too. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  He was kinda
• 1:01:32
  me, this whole African dude is telling him
• 1:01:36
  whether he's a white man, so he's kind of a little edgy, little bit, a little sour. Okay?
• 1:01:42
  And
• 1:01:43
  and and then
• 1:01:47
  he
• 1:01:48
  goes he read it.
• 1:01:50
  He goes, he read it up to the white citizens.
• 1:01:54
  And then he goes, I don't understand what I'm reading. What does it say?
• 1:01:58
  Well, yeah. Yeah. To read it again, I said, this is all
• 1:02:01
  US citizens, which is what you are. Right? You told me you are a US citizen. Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Yeah. I shall have the same right in every state territory as enjoyed by white citizen.
• 1:02:11
  But you told me you're a white man too. Right?
• 1:02:15
  So
• 1:02:16
  which one are you? Are you a US citizen
• 1:02:19
  or
• 1:02:21
  white citizen?
• 1:02:23
  Unknown: Is it fun to have the command of this and be doing He said, I I can't
• 1:02:29
  process.
• 1:02:30
  Having a blast information. My dear. Go ahead.
• 1:02:34
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  He says, I cannot process this information. He says, I can't I can't deal with it, he told me. It's too much. I don't understand it.
• 1:02:43
  Well, I told him, think about it. Okay? It may take you a year, two years, five years, even ten years, but you got my text message. You can text me whenever.
• 1:02:52
  I can explain it to you,
• 1:02:54
  further.
• 1:02:56
  So
• 1:02:59
  And I left it at that. Great job.
• 1:03:02
  Unknown: I'm so proud of you and William and some of the other folks out there that are pressing the envelope a little bit. I'm so proud of you. K?
• 1:03:11
  Unknown: Yeah. I I really am. Roger I really You you know you know you know when I first called,
• 1:03:17
  what, you know, how I
• 1:03:19
  speak,
• 1:03:20
  I'm here in Thailand to teach,
• 1:03:23
  in like
• 1:03:25
  high, very like
• 1:03:28
  top end engineers.
• 1:03:30
  Okay. I'm here to teach her the things that, that
• 1:03:34
  I speak in public. I have no problem.
• 1:03:37
  I make jokes on stage. I hold a camera. I speak,
• 1:03:40
  I solve great problems. I go visit customers.
• 1:03:44
  You know, I'm I'm gonna go see Canon. I'm gonna go see Panasonic in Japan. I'm gonna fit all these high end, Samsung. I visit all these high end
• 1:03:54
  top, top customers of ours,
• 1:03:57
  and I do all these things.
• 1:03:59
  And I'm
• 1:04:01
  like to think I'm pretty good at it. Okay. I've achieved a lot.
• 1:04:05
  But
• 1:04:06
  when it comes to this topic,
• 1:04:08
  was mute.
• 1:04:11
  Okay. I was afraid,
• 1:04:14
  mute, uncertain.
• 1:04:16
  I it was very difficult for me to find my voice, and, you know, you've heard me in the past. I was very soft spoken. It was very, very difficult for me to come to the audience? Commandingly. Yep. Correct. For on this Thank you for that, Rod. Very shy. Very shy kinda initially,
• 1:04:34
  Unknown: as I would expect anybody to be. Go ahead, Azana.
• 1:04:38
  Unknown: Yeah. And and, Roger,
• 1:04:40
  I am so, so, so very grateful to you, Roger. Oh, man. And it just that the more I realized the more I realized
• 1:04:48
  the
• 1:04:49
  demonic
• 1:04:50
  nature of this and and then just a responsibility
• 1:04:53
  to know this.
• 1:04:55
  I was I was in the state capital here in Austin,
• 1:05:00
  and and then I see a statue,
• 1:05:03
  and it start starts big old statues, confederate soldiers,
• 1:05:07
  massive statue.
• 1:05:08
  And my daughter and I were kinda walking the capital, enjoying ourselves in a nice sunny afternoon.
• 1:05:14
  And we had the the Japanese visitors with us showing them Austin.
• 1:05:18
  And my daughter and I both looked up on the statue, and the first thing, a big bold letter says
• 1:05:25
  died.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah. The confederates
• 1:05:29
  died Yeah. For state rights
• 1:05:32
  guaranteed
• 1:05:33
  under the constitution.
• 1:05:35
  Unknown: Died. Basically,
• 1:05:36
  same fight, folks. All these years later is what we're fighting right here if you don't realize it yet.
• 1:05:45
  Roger?
• 1:05:47
  Yeah, Rick. Ain't that sweet? I wanna thank you from the bottom of my heart, man. And I just Hey. What you do is give me the feedback that are fill fills as I told you even yesterday. My
• 1:05:57
  my dream is that all of you guys touched by this will have your lives changed even half as much as John Benson changed mine.
• 1:06:06
  And from what you can see and hear from Mazana and his testimony here, that's happening. K? And it's fantastic. And the feedback
• 1:06:13
  for me is substantial.
• 1:06:15
  Hey, Rick. What do you got?
• 1:06:18
  Unknown: You've
• 1:06:20
  heard the
• 1:06:21
  people say to sign at UD1Dash308.
• 1:06:24
  Right? Well, there's a PDF that you can download. That's a UCC code,
• 1:06:28
  and you can actually fill it out in affidavit
• 1:06:31
  of reservation of rights
• 1:06:33
  and
• 1:06:33
  see if they'll accept that along with his affidavit of citizenship evidence and just put it in the file
• 1:06:40
  and then sign. Okay.
• 1:06:41
  Unknown: There you go. Now I should be able to read that code, please. What was that? What was that? It's UCC1Dash308,
• 1:06:51
  Unknown: and it's a downloadable PDF.
• 1:06:54
  And all you're saying is I'm not just written.
• 1:06:59
  UCC.
• 1:07:00
  Unknown: Changed the yeah. It used to be 207.
• 1:07:02
  They changed it to 308. Go ahead, Rick.
• 1:07:06
  Unknown: UCC,
• 1:07:07
  universal commercial code Mhmm. 1Dash308.
• 1:07:13
  Just put that into your search. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. A
• 1:07:17
  bunch of websites come up and you can download the PDF,
• 1:07:21
  fill it out,
• 1:07:22
  and then submit that along with your your regular affidavit for the driver's license. Just submit it.
• 1:07:29
  And then have them check US citizen and sign it, he'll get his driver's license.
• 1:07:33
  That'll cover you. It should.
• 1:07:37
  Unknown: What what it's what does what does what does
• 1:07:41
  US why would he have to check US citizen on it?
• 1:07:45
  Unknown: Well, it's still Well, that was your right. He didn't wanna that was your problem. He didn't wanna check US citizen and sign for his driver's license.
• 1:07:53
  Okay?
• 1:07:55
  Unknown: And what's the purpose of the paper again? I I I'm trying to pull it up, but I I'm just not finding a reputable website for you. Reserves it reserves Yes. Its
• 1:08:06
  Ah, okay.
• 1:08:07
  Unknown: It's it's essentially saying I'm signing this. I'm I'm signing this, you know, for
• 1:08:13
  convenience
• 1:08:14
  or whatever, but I'm not I'm reserving my rights.
• 1:08:18
  Unknown: Yeah. Kinda like the law necessity.
• 1:08:21
  You know? Another arrow in your quiver potentially.
• 1:08:27
  Unknown: Yeah. But that doesn't that remember, Roger,
• 1:08:31
  I was denied,
• 1:08:32
  participation
• 1:08:34
  in the Republican party for its oath.
• 1:08:37
  Oh, yeah. I I wanted to do to do door knocking. I wanted to do door knocking, and I had to sign the form that says I'm a US citizen. I'm the oath.
• 1:08:49
  Okay. But no. I'm not signing the oath.
• 1:08:53
  So I'm gonna take those two,
• 1:08:56
  and it defeats the purpose. What's the point of sliding in?
• 1:09:01
  Unknown: Well
• 1:09:02
  Unknown: Okay. When we have the opportunity to correct it. Well,
• 1:09:06
  Unknown: you've got the thing like William. He's got a really good case, and you do too. And I understand exactly what you're doing. Okay?
• 1:09:14
  And it's a what let me add this.
• 1:09:17
  What a wonderful example
• 1:09:19
  for a father son relationship right here For you to be be with him hand in hand to go in here and at his tender young age when he really doesn't understand all this stuff and shouldn't be even thought to in a sense. Go in there with him together and go in there and do this do an administrative appeal. I get I don't I'd be shocked if you didn't get it.
• 1:09:42
  Wait. Let me ask you this, Sizana. When do you get back to The States?
• 1:09:49
  Unknown: I I take, we're gonna take a vacation about
• 1:09:52
  at the end of this week,
• 1:09:54
  and for about a week.
• 1:09:56
  Then I
• 1:09:57
  can for another week. Uh-huh.
• 1:10:00
  But in Japan I have business.
• 1:10:03
  Unknown: And
• 1:10:04
  Unknown: so I think my return, yeah, I returned
• 1:10:07
  after,
• 1:10:08
  the week of to the last week of June,
• 1:10:11
  basically.
• 1:10:12
  Unknown: Well, if you can wait that long.
• 1:10:14
  But yeah. That'd be great. Then you're gonna it takes two weeks to catch up for every one week you're gone generally, so you'll have a little bit of stuff piled on you. But, man, how cool. Calling from Thailand with this story with these wonderful feedback vectors and
• 1:10:30
  and,
• 1:10:32
  just a a warm fuzzy is on us what you give me. Roger.
• 1:10:37
  I I have You get a you get a warm fuzzy.
• 1:10:41
  Unknown: Hey. Go ahead. Just just one second. Alright.
• 1:10:44
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Hold on. Somebody's talking in the background talking in background.
• 1:10:49
  Mike, is that you? Could you hit your mute, please?
• 1:10:52
  Unknown: Thank you.
• 1:10:54
  Unknown: Okay. I have something for you, Phil. Hold
• 1:10:56
  Unknown: on, Mirka. Yeah. Let me make Mirka out. I'll
• 1:11:00
  send you just one second. Go ahead. So my wife my wife was flying in
• 1:11:05
  from overseas.
• 1:11:07
  I think she was in in Philippines with her friend about
• 1:11:10
  Yeah. Four months ago, five months ago. Hang on a second. It's Andy.
• 1:11:14
  Unknown: Okay. He muted. Never mind. Yeah. It was Andy lighting up, but he muted.
• 1:11:20
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah. She I think that all the heck is gone.
• 1:11:23
  Go ahead. She
• 1:11:25
  Unknown: she landed in Los Angeles Airport.
• 1:11:29
  And, on her way back to Austin, she she she is she landed in Los Angeles.
• 1:11:35
  And on her way, as she's going through immigration, she noticed
• 1:11:40
  there's an aisle for foreigners,
• 1:11:42
  there's
• 1:11:43
  the aisle for
• 1:11:46
  Americans,
• 1:11:47
  and she told me there's the aisle for nationals.
• 1:11:55
  Unknown: Well, any other country's
• 1:11:57
  citizens
• 1:11:58
  are generally referred to by one country as nationals,
• 1:12:02
  German nationals, French nationals. That's what I've noticed over the years. You know?
• 1:12:08
  Unknown: Yeah. No. No. That's separate
• 1:12:10
  from the US citizen.
• 1:12:13
  That's the key. So on our return flight and my wife is gonna join me here in Thailand. She she's gonna fly in. So on our way back, we're gonna we're connecting through Los Angeles. I wanna take a picture of that. Uh-huh.
• 1:12:25
  Unknown: Well, I want to see, like, the folks that were just here that I've had such fun with, Dean and Suzanne,
• 1:12:32
  what they were recently there her son, 45, is married to,
• 1:12:37
  literally a Taiwanese
• 1:12:39
  princess.
• 1:12:40
  Her father's like royalty over there or something.
• 1:12:44
  And they've got a child with another one on the way, four year old daughter. You can imagine she's spoiled rotten. I'm sure.
• 1:12:50
  And so they fly over, meet them in California, fly to Taiwan, spend some time, and come back. Right?
• 1:12:58
  On their boarding pass,
• 1:13:00
  it said country,
• 1:13:02
  American Samoa.
• 1:13:10
  It gave their country of origin as American Samoans, so watch out for that on the way back. Okay?
• 1:13:18
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:13:19
  That might okay. I'll look I'll, I, just
• 1:13:24
  yeah. I'm really curious to see that.
• 1:13:26
  Unknown: It's amazing. See, you can tell by that example
• 1:13:29
  that that information has been passed down or is in some database
• 1:13:33
  that's accessible by some AI,
• 1:13:36
  or it wouldn't have that in there.
• 1:13:39
  And they, of course, saw national and misinterpreted
• 1:13:42
  and took the head fake.
• 1:13:45
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:46
  Yeah. Yeah. Well,
• 1:13:48
  that that yeah. The
• 1:13:50
  AI is
• 1:13:52
  Unknown: it it doesn't know anything. Right? It's just a combination of information. Yeah. It knows what somebody's learned it. Used it. You know, if if you hadn't thought it to it, it doesn't know it.
• 1:14:02
  Unknown: Well, up to a certain point, yes. Then it makes one
• 1:14:06
  thing that is learned, you know, if the right hand learned something
• 1:14:10
  and the left hand learned something,
• 1:14:13
  then what AI is able to do is it combines those two knowledge, and it does something. Coordinates.
• 1:14:18
  Yeah.
• 1:14:20
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. And there information can get lost. Yeah. That's a boy, it's a whole converse that's a whole show on its own. Let me turn to Mirka
• 1:14:29
  and see what she has had here. Morning, Mirka.
• 1:14:33
  Unknown: Good morning.
• 1:14:35
  I just wanted to tell Rosanna,
• 1:14:38
  he he's not gonna get anywhere with that lady that he's talking to at the DMV. No. No. And maybe not even the supervisor.
• 1:14:46
  Unknown: I tried She was a supervisor with the camera. Yeah.
• 1:14:50
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. She was What you can do is
• 1:14:53
  send them a lawful legal notice so that it is on file
• 1:14:58
  firmly and permanently in your administrative file. Well You have to send it to the director,
• 1:15:04
  the director of DMV.
• 1:15:06
  You know That's what I did for mine.
• 1:15:09
  Unknown: Ajana, what a wonderful exercise
• 1:15:12
  for your son at his age with this awakening,
• 1:15:15
  have him sit down and write out an affidavit. I I went there. I did a. I did this b. It's c. It's c. It's d. And then just go get it notarized.
• 1:15:26
  That will it will go in with your if you go in for an administrative appeal,
• 1:15:31
  that'll be right in your paperwork right there. Where's your affidavit, ma'am?
• 1:15:35
  Oh, well, she had it. If she was recording it, they'll have proof, and now we can sit there and see what's going on. Just a suggestion.
• 1:15:44
  Unknown: So what I suggest I'm gonna tell them right now. Yeah. What I suggest is on on to do is, do the law fully notice to the director of the Department of Motor Vehicles or whatever it's called in Texas
• 1:15:56
  and Yeah. Include
• 1:15:59
  DC,
• 1:16:00
  the attorney general,
• 1:16:01
  and the secretary of state of DC,
• 1:16:05
  Just in case you need it because that's your court of record.
• 1:16:08
  And then there you put in your affidavit, in your cover letter, the information about doctor doctor and whatever,
• 1:16:18
  you know, wanna whatever facts you wanna give them that you have. Remember, we are alien to The United States.
• 1:16:25
  That's that's eight USC,
• 1:16:28
  through a three.
• 1:16:30
  K?
• 1:16:31
  That that explains what you are. You are alien to the United States Corporation,
• 1:16:36
  and then your definition 21.
• 1:16:39
  So
• 1:16:40
  I would You wanna put all those codes and facts in there. So it's documented.
• 1:16:45
  It's filed in your rec on your court of record.
• 1:16:49
  Unknown: Merca would be a good attorney.
• 1:16:51
  Unknown: K?
• 1:16:52
  Yeah.
• 1:16:54
  I'm thank you for that. I have a different outlook.
• 1:16:58
  Unknown: I'm sure you do, Samuel.
• 1:17:00
  But but, Roger, really quick I was gonna say that anyway, all all this stuff, what we're trying to do in effect here on top of Ivana's son and Izana learning it. But what we're also trying to do is possibly affect it for other nationals that wanna go get a Texas five star driver's license or whatever. Roger?
• 1:17:19
  Unknown: Yes. But that's commerce, though. The driver's license is commerce. So that's Okay. The only thing is that's why they want you to be a US citizen.
• 1:17:27
  Unknown: My question is,
• 1:17:30
  why does that
• 1:17:32
  OMB
• 1:17:33
  number not apply
• 1:17:34
  since federal is being brought into it, and it should be considered an information gathering request,
• 1:17:42
  shouldn't it?
• 1:17:43
  Unknown: Right. Yep.
• 1:17:45
  And then also, Izana, educate your son that the the passport
• 1:17:49
  is
• 1:17:50
  his,
• 1:17:52
  not driver's license, but it's a traveling
• 1:17:54
  as a surgeon or
• 1:17:57
  Mhmm. I ID. And you can use it for everything. I,
• 1:18:00
  you know, I use my passport for bank bank,
• 1:18:04
  whatever. Yeah. I have it on my bank, everything. So I
• 1:18:08
  don't have a driver's license anymore.
• 1:18:11
  Unknown: And he Like, Kazzano, when you got pulled over Thank you. Yes. With the cop that pulled you over that you pissed everybody off because you gave him a passport card? He would.
• 1:18:20
  He would. You're saying, oh, I'm so oh, Oscar,
• 1:18:23
  I'm sorry.
• 1:18:24
  I'm I'm not I'm not in commerce, so I gave you that. If you'd like to see my in commerce license, here it is.
• 1:18:34
  Unknown: Well yeah. So so here that's correct, Roger, because driving,
• 1:18:39
  you know, like a bus driver,
• 1:18:41
  like a truck driver,
• 1:18:43
  driving is a commercial activity.
• 1:18:45
  Yep. So what a so you have to find US citizen to be
• 1:18:51
  in commerce if they are behind a vehicle. So that's that's that's that's the gap in there they fill. Well Okay. I I But as a national
• 1:19:01
  Unknown: I guess because they're they got a property right in you, you'd be in contact with property right in you.
• 1:19:07
  Unknown: Yes. If I may. May.
• 1:19:10
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:19:11
  Just hold on, Jerry. Just one second. That that is on a break. So We'll turn it over. Go ahead. As a national,
• 1:19:18
  I wanted to engage,
• 1:19:20
  as a US citizen, if I wanted to engage in commercial activity, if I wanna drive for Walmart Walmart or Uber Uber,
• 1:19:29
  okay,
• 1:19:30
  They have denied me my rights to participate in commerce.
• 1:19:35
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:19:36
  Unknown: Alright. And it wouldn't be me, my son. Well, it would be me too when I when I update my terms license. They would have denied us of activity,
• 1:19:44
  commercial activity
• 1:19:45
  for our political status, which has nothing to do nothing
• 1:19:50
  to do with
• 1:19:52
  driving. Correct.
• 1:19:56
  Unknown: Jerry, who doesn't Jerry? Hold on. Jerry was trying to say something, I think. Wasn't that you, Jerry? It's
• 1:20:02
  Unknown: Samuel.
• 1:20:04
  Unknown: Yeah. Oh, Samuel. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
• 1:20:07
  Unknown: Is how I I think this might be a way to look at it as well. The
• 1:20:13
  Unknown: whole reason
• 1:20:16
  Unknown: for the the
• 1:20:19
  two different IDs that they're in every state, and I guess they call them the real ID. Okay.
• 1:20:24
  And then you have your standard state license.
• 1:20:27
  The only difference between those two documents
• 1:20:30
  is whether you prove once or
• 1:20:33
  twice what
• 1:20:34
  your residency is.
• 1:20:36
  So I think they're trying to prove that you're a resident, a fourteenth amendment citizen through
• 1:20:43
  the driver's license by residency.
• 1:20:46
  Unknown: So Well, that's what I that's what I always thought it was, Samuel. That's what the director of the state transportation
• 1:20:52
  board of Idaho told us very reluctantly.
• 1:20:55
  But finally, after three or four volleys of law,
• 1:20:59
  of memorandums
• 1:21:00
  go ahead.
• 1:21:02
  Unknown: So what I'm what I'm trying always to do is to never give them because I have a domain. I don't have a residence.
• 1:21:12
  I'm always trying to give them my meets and bounds
• 1:21:15
  for number one.
• 1:21:17
  I think another thing that's important because it they want two pieces of paper that
• 1:21:22
  show your residency
• 1:21:23
  when you get the real ID. Right? Right. Instead of one for the regular driver's license. Yes. Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  What
• 1:21:31
  if you can give them paperwork
• 1:21:33
  with something
• 1:21:36
  that's not not a
• 1:21:39
  what we call it, domestic
• 1:21:41
  address address, and that's why my address results are different. It's nondomestic.
• 1:21:47
  If I do use that address for
• 1:21:49
  people who can only who can't respond to meets and bounds, obviously,
• 1:21:54
  at least I'm outside the country, and I'm not a resident.
• 1:21:59
  Unknown: Okay. May I may I provide my opinion on that, Samuel? I completely understand
• 1:22:03
  your opinion very much. Yep. Okay. My understanding
• 1:22:07
  of residents,
• 1:22:09
  okay, is is is
• 1:22:13
  almost identical
• 1:22:14
  after reading the how
• 1:22:16
  far that goes, the word residency goes.
• 1:22:19
  Okay.
• 1:22:20
  When when you say
• 1:22:23
  that you are a resident,
• 1:22:25
  what you're really saying is your home is somewhere else, but for now, you're here temporarily.
• 1:22:32
  So my when my daughter goes to college,
• 1:22:36
  she she wants to study electrical engineering too, like me. So she when my daughter goes to college,
• 1:22:42
  they give her you should sign the paperwork too in there. It says, you know, her dorm and everything, and she gets a little sticker that says
• 1:22:49
  residents of the university that she goes to. Right? And she puts that sticker in the back of the card. It says residents of the university name. Right? So what does that mean? She's residing at the university.
• 1:23:02
  Her home is somewhere else. Well, yeah, her home was with us, but she's residing in there.
• 1:23:08
  So as a national,
• 1:23:10
  I can choose to reside in a hotel.
• 1:23:13
  I can choose to reside
• 1:23:15
  wherever the heck I want to. I can choose to be, not have a residency like you just said, Samuel.
• 1:23:22
  Regardless,
• 1:23:24
  that should have zero impact in my political status.
• 1:23:28
  Unknown: Well, their their presumption is from the fourteenth amendment. You're born and you reside.
• 1:23:33
  Unknown: See, here's what you're doing. Yeah. You're attaching it to No. Old definition. You're
• 1:23:40
  attaching the geographic
• 1:23:41
  subject to the jurisdiction over
• 1:23:44
  Unknown: there. That's right. But but when you say
• 1:23:47
  but you see the thing when they ask you if you're a resident, they're asking you which laws are you under. So when you say yes, it has nothing to do with where you're living. It's I'm under the fourteenth amendment. That's why it's phrased
• 1:23:59
  that way in the four in the state wherein
• 1:24:03
  they
• 1:24:04
  reside. It's like they wrap it in three or four different layers
• 1:24:08
  of of obfuscation
• 1:24:09
  there. K? But you never hear them ask them.
• 1:24:13
  And and they're not asking you, are you a resident of Texas? They're not gonna ask your daughter when she goes to apply to UT there. Are you a resident of Texas? They're just gonna say, are you a resident?
• 1:24:25
  Unknown: They never have to say. Well, he he here's Well, there's William who's gonna chime in in a second here. Just just just you have to pass the first check to get to that point.
• 1:24:35
  Right? You have to pass the end subject
• 1:24:38
  Unknown: to the jurisdiction, then you are a resident. But first, have to pass subject. I I don't reside anywhere. I'm domiciled.
• 1:24:45
  They use that too. They've tried to co op that, and then you shouldn't can use the term I inhabit.
• 1:24:51
  I I inhabit here,
• 1:24:53
  but I don't reside anywhere
• 1:24:56
  unless you wanna clarify,
• 1:24:58
  are you attaching the geographical
• 1:25:00
  or a political definition
• 1:25:03
  to the way you're using and asking me that question?
• 1:25:07
  Which isn't political or geographical. Yeah.
• 1:25:11
  Unknown: But what happens if a national
• 1:25:14
  wants to go in the middle of Austin and rent an apartment?
• 1:25:20
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:25:21
  Unknown: Okay. They are residing there.
• 1:25:23
  Unknown: All all I'm saying is you don't wanna sign a document and agree to being a resident. That's it. I agree. She's honest. I was gonna go back and put some thought into that. I don't agree with the way you're interpreting that. There
• 1:25:37
  Unknown: you
• 1:25:38
  I'm
• 1:25:39
  not denying. You're you're absolutely correct on that. What and what you're saying, the way you're describing it is absolutely correct.
• 1:25:47
  The the point I'm trying to make here is,
• 1:25:50
  you see, US citizens
• 1:25:52
  don't have the option. They have to always be residing. Oh, okay.
• 1:25:57
  Home is Washington DC.
• 1:25:59
  But as a national, you have the option.
• 1:26:02
  Unknown: Oh, okay. You're talking them being apples and apples and otherwise apples and oranges, and I agree. K?
• 1:26:09
  If your daughter
• 1:26:10
  doesn't file an affidavit,
• 1:26:12
  she's gonna reside.
• 1:26:15
  He's gonna reside. Because that is that
• 1:26:18
  Unknown: is Whether she likes it or not.
• 1:26:20
  Unknown: The at the nucleus
• 1:26:22
  of the whole definition. And then you really think about it, this is the nucleus of everything.
• 1:26:28
  They're using this standard ambassadorial.
• 1:26:31
  It's which laws do you live under definition,
• 1:26:34
  and yet when they're confronting you, they're, oh, well, you live there. Well, this is you vote there. You all these other man made criteria
• 1:26:42
  to get you into a geographical definition.
• 1:26:45
  They're using the ambassador one, and they're head faking you into agreeing with it by using the other one as the standard.
• 1:26:53
  That's exactly what's going on.
• 1:26:57
  Unknown: And they cannot deny us the opportunity
• 1:27:01
  to participate
• 1:27:03
  regardless. They
• 1:27:05
  Unknown: cannot.
• 1:27:06
  They can't deny us unless under the law. They cannot. Unless
• 1:27:10
  they've got us in a condition where they had Russia in about 1916.
• 1:27:15
  Then as they move into that communist total takeover,
• 1:27:19
  then they go hog wild, bloodthirsty murder, crazy crime,
• 1:27:24
  and, just forge ahead. We're not there yet. Why? Because we got guns.
• 1:27:30
  Hey, Raj. That's why we're not there.
• 1:27:35
  Okay. Yeah. So I think it was Samuel or Bruce or somebody wanted to say something. Paul's wanting to say something. William wanted to say something. That's the one I remember. Hey, William. How are doing this morning?
• 1:27:47
  Unknown: Brisk discussion here. I'll let Paul go.
• 1:27:50
  Okay. I'll let Paul go. Follow. Okay.
• 1:27:56
  Unknown: Them,
• 1:27:57
  discriminating
• 1:27:58
  against nationalism,
• 1:27:59
  not allowing them
• 1:28:01
  to
• 1:28:02
  engage in commerce
• 1:28:04
  by refusing them a driver's license is a violation of the constitution.
• 1:28:10
  It's a constitutional
• 1:28:13
  denial of rights because the constitution
• 1:28:16
  says that they cannot government cannot interfere
• 1:28:21
  with the ability to contract.
• 1:28:24
  And by refusing a driver's license,
• 1:28:27
  they are
• 1:28:28
  interfering with the ability to contract. Maybe you want to drive an Uber.
• 1:28:34
  Only other thing I've got is
• 1:28:36
  don't use the term ossifer.
• 1:28:39
  Roger has used the term ossifer twice, and I get it. I get it. I understand where it's coming from because the word officer
• 1:28:48
  has within its context
• 1:28:51
  the the the salutation
• 1:28:53
  sir But I've got this but I've got this lisp.
• 1:28:57
  What no. No. It has it has the word sir in it, or the sound sir in it, which imputes
• 1:29:05
  a reverence
• 1:29:07
  on the person with the badge that they may or may not have proven that they deserve.
• 1:29:13
  But if you use
• 1:29:16
  ossifer,
• 1:29:17
  they're gonna pull you out of the car. They're gonna have you blowing in a little thing that's gonna go beep, and they're gonna drag your happy ass down to the court so they can take your blood.
• 1:29:27
  Unknown: Don't do it. Roger. Roger is a one. If you use ossiper, don't come back to the radio show. Okay? Okay. Because it's only meant as humor. Alright?
• 1:29:37
  Yeah. And and
• 1:29:39
  and and and Sammy the stutterer on the side of the road. I wanna hear what William's got to add to all this today. William, I'm glad you're doing good today, buddy.
• 1:29:48
  Unknown: Yeah. I kinda checked in late, but I'm not as stinky as you drunk I am.
• 1:29:56
  Unknown: Ossifer.
• 1:29:58
  Unknown: Alright.
• 1:30:00
  Unknown: I probably
• 1:30:02
  Unknown: pissed in the county attorney's Cheerios this morning. I noticed I filed my notice of appeal. I didn't you said a urine test. I didn't mean to pee in his glass.
• 1:30:12
  Unknown: That's right.
• 1:30:14
  File my notice of appeal and a motion to stay enforcement and collection on the attorney's fees. So Okay.
• 1:30:21
  Because they're due they're due by, middle July.
• 1:30:25
  It would be July 12.
• 1:30:27
  Okay. So I'm gonna see if see if he'll, if the judge will sign it. If he won't, then I'll just pay it and
• 1:30:34
  try to get it back in arrears.
• 1:30:36
  But I've been I've been writing my appeal brief, and
• 1:30:40
  that's the very first thing I'm opening with what you're talking about.
• 1:30:44
  That the fourteenth the citizenship clause says very clearly
• 1:30:48
  US citizens reside in a state.
• 1:30:51
  And if, you know, conversely,
• 1:30:53
  if you're not a US citizen, you don't reside in a state.
• 1:30:57
  Unknown: And even if you do, if they're trying to impute on that, return residents are rebuttable presumption.
• 1:31:04
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:31:05
  Right.
• 1:31:06
  And,
• 1:31:07
  I kinda closed with it at the bottom. I said,
• 1:31:11
  you know,
• 1:31:12
  the county
• 1:31:13
  tax commissioner is an elected position. He has the duty to know
• 1:31:18
  or should have known that his his delegated
• 1:31:22
  jurisdiction extends only or exclusively
• 1:31:25
  to US citizens and resident aliens.
• 1:31:29
  And if if I'm not one of those, I don't owe the tax. And if Are you they can't prove that
• 1:31:35
  if they can't prove that the tax extends to somebody this this nonresident alien,
• 1:31:41
  then then I don't owe the tax.
• 1:31:44
  William And he didn't How are you how are
• 1:31:47
  Unknown: you putting that in? Are you putting resident
• 1:31:50
  dash alien?
• 1:31:52
  Are you putting resident in parentheses
• 1:31:55
  alien?
• 1:31:56
  How are you framing that grammatical?
• 1:31:59
  Unknown: Just resident alien? Because it well, put it where it says
• 1:32:03
  if you're a citizenship
• 1:32:05
  clause. It says Okay. If you're not if you're a US citizen,
• 1:32:09
  then you reside in a state. Okay. So the only way you can reside in a state is if you're a US citizen or you're a resident alien.
• 1:32:16
  Right. That's the only way you can reside.
• 1:32:19
  Unknown: You you might for further clarification,
• 1:32:22
  you may wanna put parentheses in there, Vattel's law of nations on residency.
• 1:32:28
  Unknown: Just a suggestion. Yeah. That's what I I'm gonna read it on the show when I get it kind of where I want it. Yeah. Yeah. You're just roughing it. Once,
• 1:32:38
  yeah, once they docket the appeal, I'll have twenty days
• 1:32:42
  to submit my appeal brief.
• 1:32:44
  Uh-huh. And I'm gonna read it on the show and get you guys input. I didn't know if I should go into Vattel.
• 1:32:52
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, if you're gonna use resident alien,
• 1:32:56
  they probably won't be as familiar with that term.
• 1:33:02
  I've I've very rarely ever seen I've seen nonresident alien. Have you ever seen resident alien? Right.
• 1:33:09
  Yeah. No. It's a nonresident alien. It should be. We're we're right. We're no. No. No. We wanna use it resident alien for them,
• 1:33:17
  but clarify it's from Patel's law of nations because that's the way he always used it. He never once says resident.
• 1:33:25
  It's always resident alien because that describes
• 1:33:29
  using it from the ambassadorial
• 1:33:31
  way because that means what set of laws are you under,
• 1:33:36
  And that's your choice.
• 1:33:38
  That's why residency
• 1:33:40
  is a rebuttable presumption
• 1:33:42
  because this is your choice,
• 1:33:44
  not them sticking it with you and but through a geographical
• 1:33:48
  loophole.
• 1:33:50
  That's what's happening. Yep.
• 1:33:53
  Unknown: And I put it but, you know, it'd be a gross miscarriage of a gross miscarriage
• 1:33:58
  of justice
• 1:34:00
  for me
• 1:34:01
  to have to pay an improperly assessed tax
• 1:34:05
  and
• 1:34:06
  have to def have to pay for the defense of the same incompetence.
• 1:34:10
  Unknown: Right. When an incompetent attorney
• 1:34:13
  identified you and they had a conclusion with fees as to a entity, a sovereign citizen
• 1:34:20
  that he can't define
• 1:34:22
  or point to in any legal document
• 1:34:25
  except from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 1:34:29
  Unknown: Right. And he and make sure to use the capital s state that you're rebutting
• 1:34:35
  as capital s because there is a definition that explains that they're part of the United States Corporation.
• 1:34:40
  Unknown: That's a Federal state. Interesting. It's very interesting you say that, Murph. I'm probably true. Yeah. Anyway, I I wanna tell you right now. I mean, again, I was on listen to William here. Look at what he's doing. I am so proud of you guys. I if I was a new daddy, I'd be handing out cigars.
• 1:35:01
  Unknown: I would
• 1:35:03
  hey, William,
• 1:35:05
  I wanted to tell you, I changed I changed I changed my political status multiple times.
• 1:35:11
  Okay. Well, I was just a
• 1:35:13
  I was Ethiopian,
• 1:35:15
  just
• 1:35:16
  biologically
• 1:35:17
  just appeared in Ethiopia, right, while I was a little baby. And then I got a,
• 1:35:23
  by political status when I decided to come to The US. I applied for passport, and I got identified
• 1:35:29
  with a political status as Ethiopian.
• 1:35:32
  K?
• 1:35:33
  So I was a a national of Ethiopia,
• 1:35:36
  and
• 1:35:37
  I was my political status was as an Ethiopian, so I I now can travel the world. Right? So I came to The US and became
• 1:35:46
  a resident
• 1:35:48
  alien
• 1:35:51
  as an international student.
• 1:35:53
  Okay. Right. So,
• 1:35:56
  and then I, all my paperwork was legal
• 1:35:59
  throughout the process. So I maintain my legal status, got green card and all of that green card. My
• 1:36:06
  yeah.
• 1:36:07
  And then,
• 1:36:09
  which now I see,
• 1:36:10
  I completely understand that the whole thing is a fraud.
• 1:36:14
  Okay.
• 1:36:15
  And a joke and a fraud on American
• 1:36:19
  nationals.
• 1:36:20
  I mean, the profound nature of my understanding of what the hell is going on in this country goes back to the, to my understanding of how the opportunity,
• 1:36:31
  for me to come to this country and participate in the success and growth of that country, which I'm very proud of achieving what I've achieved. Okay? It but it is it underlines
• 1:36:42
  the fraudulent activity.
• 1:36:44
  Why wasn't I successful in Ethiopia
• 1:36:48
  in my own country?
• 1:36:51
  Okay.
• 1:36:52
  Why did I have to go? Why all these people having to cross
• 1:36:58
  into this country and all these western nations if it's not if it's not for a fraudulent
• 1:37:04
  activity,
• 1:37:05
  if it's not to take away,
• 1:37:07
  okay, the rights and privileges
• 1:37:10
  of
• 1:37:11
  people from this nation.
• 1:37:13
  Unknown: The white citizens.
• 1:37:16
  Unknown: The white citizens.
• 1:37:18
  The war is against the white citizens.
• 1:37:21
  Unknown: You got it.
• 1:37:22
  And
• 1:37:23
  Unknown: it's okay. Your skin color,
• 1:37:26
  And it has nothing. The reason people see the white and associate it
• 1:37:31
  to them as being white. I mean, people with whiter skin. I'm sorry if I rub salt on this, but you guys don't look white. I've seen white color and you guys don't look like it. But I have seen black people that really, really, really define the color black as being black.
• 1:37:48
  Okay? So if you're gonna have an opposite political status, it'd be an opposite of that black, which would be white.
• 1:37:56
  Right. But not the skin color has nothing to do with those. It's like a No, it's political. There's a white towel in front of me, but
• 1:38:05
  there's a white the black
• 1:38:07
  there
• 1:38:08
  are Africans that are very, very black.
• 1:38:12
  And and and But that's the difference in there.
• 1:38:16
  Unknown: And, Zana good friend there. I can take when I can take fine upstanding black folks like yourself and Brent
• 1:38:23
  and and and some of the others and make you guys white. It's just such a joy for me. I don't know if I can I I don't know if I can put it in words? Yeah. Roger,
• 1:38:33
  Unknown: the greatest honor,
• 1:38:34
  we give of my culture where I was born and raised to to people that teach
• 1:38:40
  is the greatest honor we provide is to get down on their knee and
• 1:38:45
  wash their feet.
• 1:38:47
  Okay. Wish
• 1:38:48
  I was there
• 1:38:51
  And to get down, and I really, really thank you, and I appreciate you for for giving me the opportunity to understand this. Thank you so much. It's just really profound.
• 1:39:02
  Unknown: And You know, it it makes all the crap you gotta go through to do this
• 1:39:07
  totally worthwhile to hear something like that, folks.
• 1:39:12
  Unknown: Question?
• 1:39:13
  Unknown: You'll find listen. You're out talking to people's stuff. You're gonna know what I'm talking about. It's
• 1:39:19
  unbelievable how this message is received. Yet when it hits the right person, William or Hazana or Mirka or you,
• 1:39:27
  you can see the effects of it. And, man, the feedback loop on it's just fantastic.
• 1:39:33
  Go out and talk to people. Find a few. You they will thank you profusely,
• 1:39:38
  and that is the best feedback loop that you can't put a dollar amount on that. That's why I do not charge you.
• 1:39:46
  You can't put a dollar figure on that.
• 1:39:51
  The only way to get what you want, my freedom,
• 1:39:54
  is to help enough other people get what they want. All of you want your freedom.
• 1:40:01
  And when that happens,
• 1:40:03
  it's just a serendipitous
• 1:40:05
  feeling
• 1:40:07
  occurs.
• 1:40:08
  So calming.
• 1:40:10
  It's it's like I said, as I was going through all this research all these years,
• 1:40:14
  then you'll probably experience this too. And you get into one of these situations like we're discussing today on residency or complex,
• 1:40:22
  whatever it is, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the answer will come. And the minute the answer hits the field,
• 1:40:29
  all the dust settles.
• 1:40:31
  I've had it happen a number of times.
• 1:40:34
  Unknown: It just that's a Hey, Roger. When it comes, it'll happen. Guess what? I have a good friend of mine
• 1:40:41
  a
• 1:40:42
  good friend of mine that was born in present day Zimbabwe.
• 1:40:46
  He's of Dutch descent, so he's a white guy. And he fought in the South African army
• 1:40:53
  back in the eighties and he immigrated to America
• 1:40:57
  and he's got twins.
• 1:40:59
  They go to high school. They just graduated high school here. And
• 1:41:02
  the twins told the teachers they were African American.
• 1:41:07
  Unknown: And the teacher and
• 1:41:09
  Unknown: the teacher told them they weren't.
• 1:41:12
  And and their mom went up there and railed her up one side and down the other and said, their dad is African.
• 1:41:19
  Unknown: That is funny. It's not a it's not a color thing. I mean, it it manifests manifests itself in color. But I think same thing happened to Azana. What? You're trying Azana, what are trying to say?
• 1:41:31
  Unknown: No. So that's it's not it's never a color thing. And and and now as I was going back to going back to the thank you for that explanation. And and some of my coworkers are
• 1:41:42
  white South Africans,
• 1:41:44
  So I I just I just I wish there was something I could do to,
• 1:41:50
  you know, gap the bridge and kinda explain that it has nothing to do with race, but, hey. But that's where they want us to be, confused and fighting against each other.
• 1:42:01
  Yep. Okay. That's that's that's objective because you're never gonna look you're never gonna look what they're doing on this on the left end, right, on too far to the left. They're never gonna see because you're too busy fighting on something else.
• 1:42:13
  Unknown: Well, he he came here because his mom his mom got
• 1:42:17
  she got shot in a
• 1:42:19
  road, whatever you call it, like a roadside
• 1:42:22
  hijacking,
• 1:42:23
  whatever you wanna call it. She survived.
• 1:42:26
  She still lives over there. And, his brother got slit. His throat got slit ear to ear for the $20 he had in his pocket,
• 1:42:33
  in a phone booth in the early nineties.
• 1:42:37
  And it and just the rape and murder and,
• 1:42:40
  you know, white gen white genocide that's going on over there. Oh, it's arrested. He said, I don't know I don't know why anybody his sister moved to Canada.
• 1:42:49
  She's in Canada,
• 1:42:51
  but
• 1:42:52
  she's liberal and he won't have anything to do with her. But, yeah, there's
• 1:42:56
  a I mean, it it's the the ability to be able to move, I mean, that's we're talk I saw that the other day with Liberty. Okay.
• 1:43:03
  Unknown: That's Liberty. Locomotion.
• 1:43:05
  Mhmm.
• 1:43:06
  Unknown: Mhmm. And that's what the UN Charter says. Everybody's got that right.
• 1:43:10
  Unknown: Yeah. But but but remember, liberty
• 1:43:13
  is not freedom. Two different things. Right? You when you are at liberty,
• 1:43:19
  you it's like your mama told you, you know, yeah. Now you're you're you're at liberty to have that cookie at 9PM.
• 1:43:25
  Hey. She can just like just like she gave to you, she can take it away too. Yeah. Well, that's permission.
• 1:43:32
  So
• 1:43:34
  That's permission.
• 1:43:35
  You're at liberty. That's it. Permission.
• 1:43:39
  Sailor gets a liberty, right, to go out. Right. Exactly. Permission
• 1:43:43
  Unknown: is not freedom. You're right. There are degrees of this. Because
• 1:43:47
  Unknown: that We have the liberty to give up.
• 1:43:49
  Unknown: You're you're imputing the liberty. It's not liberty because somebody's telling you something. Otherwise, it's your free choice and your responsibility. So go, William. Yeah. Afro m Afro m b Rusk. You know? You have the liberty to give up your rights.
• 1:44:04
  Precisely. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:44:07
  That's why it's gotta be voluntary. And it's only through really teaching this stuff on the radio that I've reached some of those base
• 1:44:15
  concepts here that I'd never thought of before. Hold it. It's
• 1:44:20
  either freedom or tyranny.
• 1:44:22
  And freedom's my choice. Tyranny's
• 1:44:25
  your insistence.
• 1:44:27
  So and you'll never get that until they get a degree yeah. Just a second. Until they get us a degree of control like they had in Soviet Russia, early part of last century, and they get our guns. Then they're gonna be that bloodthirsty.
• 1:44:41
  Unknown: Who's got the comment and the question? Step forward, William. I I have I have I have I have let me let me finish what I was gonna say to William. I was gonna Okay. You will say that I keep getting distracted. Just one second. If I could, Yes. Go ahead, William. Okay. So so when I change when my change, all of my political status changes
• 1:44:59
  were voluntary,
• 1:45:01
  And I never had to go to Ethiopia
• 1:45:04
  and ask for permission to, hey.
• 1:45:07
  Can I be a US citizen? No.
• 1:45:10
  I never had to ask that. It is voluntary. It is your choice, and nobody can deny you when when you change your political status.
• 1:45:17
  But what when you change your status, you have to be accepted
• 1:45:21
  so that that that you does that that when you become a person of a different kind,
• 1:45:26
  that
• 1:45:27
  set of law has to accept you.
• 1:45:30
  So that's that's where the difference is in there. So you have to ask to be that, but you don't have to ask permission to leave this other one. Okay?
• 1:45:40
  That's one of second thing I wanted to tell you is that as a as a as a as a national being
• 1:45:47
  a resident alien,
• 1:45:49
  you are resident alien or a nonresident
• 1:45:53
  alien,
• 1:45:55
  that choice choice is entirely up to you.
• 1:46:00
  But it's not for US citizen. So
• 1:46:04
  that's the key difference. So when you write your reply,
• 1:46:08
  encourage you to think to meditate and think about that particular
• 1:46:14
  so you you know,
• 1:46:16
  particular
• 1:46:17
  situation.
• 1:46:19
  Unknown: You can, folks, if you're new, you can you can go down so many layers and get so deep into thought here on some of this stuff. Don't get buffaloed by it. There's reasons we do it and that's what we've gotta do. It's like these
• 1:46:33
  words
• 1:46:34
  that we words
• 1:46:35
  convey concepts.
• 1:46:37
  This is how we communicate
• 1:46:39
  And when we use a word between two people, we've gotta both agree on the concept. The disconnect is when they change the definition a 180 degrees.
• 1:46:48
  There's the disconnect. You gotta get connected, and both of you have to be on the same definition.
• 1:46:53
  Who was trying to say something there a second ago comment?
• 1:46:58
  Unknown: This is Manna. Oh,
• 1:47:00
  Unknown: hey, man. How you doing, man? I wanna jump in after Okay.
• 1:47:04
  Unknown: Alright. Paul's after Manna. Go ahead, buddy.
• 1:47:08
  Unknown: First off, this is a really great round
• 1:47:12
  off
• 1:47:14
  and
• 1:47:15
  beautiful
• 1:47:19
  just ending to the show. My
• 1:47:22
  question
• 1:47:23
  was
• 1:47:25
  when Merge well, I mean, when Mirka chimed in, it reminded me of
• 1:47:30
  her saying to def define
• 1:47:32
  your terms. I was wondering
• 1:47:35
  if Hazana
• 1:47:37
  could or could have
• 1:47:40
  while he was in front of
• 1:47:43
  the the
• 1:47:45
  administrative
• 1:47:46
  lady with the camera, if he could have
• 1:47:48
  kind of asked for pushed for
• 1:47:52
  more of their paperwork that defines
• 1:47:56
  their terms.
• 1:47:57
  Unknown: Well, the problem was he was only there via cell phone. It was his wife and his son that were in the meeting.
• 1:48:04
  So but don't worry. All that'll be just I'm sure it'll be covered when he gets back. He's gonna have a couple of weeks to think about this,
• 1:48:12
  layout whatever documents you wanna use, and rehearse,
• 1:48:16
  an administrative
• 1:48:17
  appeal in front of an official. When you get back, go ask for it.
• 1:48:22
  Unknown: Roger, I have a response to Manna.
• 1:48:25
  Unknown: Or or hold on, Mirka, or have your son,
• 1:48:29
  and and find out what the time frame would be. If it's a month from now, you might not wanna wait till you get back and have your son and wife go ahead and request it now. Get a set date set and say,
• 1:48:42
  early July when you've gotten back and have a day or two and then you won't have to wait till the end of the month. Whatever is on it. He wasn't there except via cell phone,
• 1:48:53
  Unknown: man. I didn't quite catch that. So yeah. I know.
• 1:48:57
  Unknown: But they put me on the speakerphone.
• 1:49:00
  Unknown: Yeah. Interesting.
• 1:49:01
  Unknown: Because on a you Yeah. They needed they needed to get out of there because they got it it ended up with the lady's handshaking,
• 1:49:08
  Unknown: and, you know, it was it was fun to walk away. Yeah. Yeah. It's just And that's why you didn't see the hand shaking. Your son had to tell you. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:49:19
  Unknown: Yeah. I I yeah. But I yeah. I I yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But I can hear from her voice that she has reached her her end of the rope. I I can.
• 1:49:28
  Unknown: We Yeah. She you'd you'd reached the end of her understanding
• 1:49:33
  and responsibility.
• 1:49:34
  She got more responsibility.
• 1:49:36
  She just didn't have the understanding.
• 1:49:38
  That's why I told you be.
• 1:49:41
  When when you started listening, I told you that don't think everybody's gonna understand this because they don't.
• 1:49:48
  That's part of our job is when possible to educate them as nicely as possible.
• 1:49:53
  Go ahead, man ma'am.
• 1:49:56
  Unknown: I just wanted to tell Would you please
• 1:49:58
  Unknown: I I wanna tell Manna something too.
• 1:50:01
  Please call Gary and Gina and tell them how much we miss their injection,
• 1:50:07
  and and we love them, and we're sorry we don't hear from them too much. Go ahead, Mirka.
• 1:50:11
  Unknown: I I reached out to, Gary also,
• 1:50:15
  and they're,
• 1:50:17
  they're doing good. They're just busy with other things right now. Okay. Alright. That's fine. I'll I'll send them a message.
• 1:50:25
  Unknown: Summer in Montana.
• 1:50:27
  Unknown: I was researching
• 1:50:29
  the state stuff and, you know, like,
• 1:50:33
  a.
• 1:50:33
  I have triple a insurance right now, and I asked for their definitions to see what they were showing as information.
• 1:50:40
  And what I started noticing in everything I'm looking at in the state of California,
• 1:50:46
  they are mixing
• 1:50:48
  the definitions. They're not using the proper legal language.
• 1:50:53
  And that's
• 1:50:54
  how people get confused
• 1:50:55
  because of them using a lower estate
• 1:50:59
  or this capital s d on some that I bet you anything
• 1:51:03
  DMV, motor vehicles,
• 1:51:06
  departments
• 1:51:07
  have the same thing,
• 1:51:08
  a mixture of
• 1:51:10
  incorrect legal language in their verbiage
• 1:51:14
  in the website. So we have to be careful with that.
• 1:51:17
  What what them.
• 1:51:19
  Unknown: I would think that would be still helpful, though, because then you could bring all that up in front of them and show them how much you understand
• 1:51:29
  they don't.
• 1:51:31
  Unknown: Right. And and they if they're following federal regulations,
• 1:51:35
  policies, or whatever, they're following the federal system, and they need to follow their definitions,
• 1:51:41
  and they're not. So that's how they're imposing
• 1:51:44
  things and confusing people.
• 1:51:46
  Unknown: Yeah. And then you could bring all that up and show that they're not
• 1:51:51
  Unknown: even following No. No. Mana, that's not the place to bring all that up. You go, okay, ma'am. What's the next step in my administrative
• 1:52:00
  appeal?
• 1:52:01
  That's who you bring it up to.
• 1:52:04
  You don't do it to the lower clerk.
• 1:52:06
  Unknown: You go it to their supervisor or the administrative appeal. So alright. Go ahead. I'll do that. Well, that kinda answers my question if if I were to be in this situation. Kinda, yeah, kinda let
• 1:52:18
  what Hazana had done
• 1:52:20
  with his son go through,
• 1:52:23
  bring it to the point where
• 1:52:25
  the lady is uncomfortable,
• 1:52:27
  ask
• 1:52:28
  for an administrative
• 1:52:30
  step,
• 1:52:31
  and then, you know,
• 1:52:32
  in that next step with a restart,
• 1:52:35
  you could
• 1:52:37
  push the envelope and Okay. Bring out those things. Here's the process. Here's the process,
• 1:52:43
  Unknown: which they didn't go through,
• 1:52:45
  which was go get to that point when she says no or shows uncomfortability
• 1:52:50
  or not understanding
• 1:52:52
  a wall, resistance,
• 1:52:54
  then you go, can I speak speak to your supervisor?
• 1:52:57
  Now they'll go get their boss and bring them back, and you state your case to them.
• 1:53:02
  Now if they agree with the with the clerk,
• 1:53:06
  now
• 1:53:07
  what's the next step in my administrative appeal?
• 1:53:10
  That's the process.
• 1:53:12
  Unknown: The main thing, Linger, you need to, also notice the supervisor,
• 1:53:16
  the head of that department,
• 1:53:18
  not the supervisor at the department
• 1:53:21
  locally.
• 1:53:22
  It has to be the head of the department. I didn't ask you. That's Whatever. I'd ask for a supervisor first.
• 1:53:28
  Unknown: If she the well, refuses to say, do you have a supervisor I could talk to? If she says no, what's the next step in my administrative appeal?
• 1:53:38
  Unknown: When when you address the head of the department, Roger, and you're addressing you're cc'ing the attorney general and the secretary of state of DC,
• 1:53:45
  those are their superiors. Wow. Those superiors are supposed to govern their agents.
• 1:53:50
  So if they don't, then you bring that information that you already noticed that their superior,
• 1:53:55
  who the director is, and they have to do their little legwork to go research it themselves before giving you false
• 1:54:04
  information.
• 1:54:05
  So that's that's where we have the power with the lawful legal notices
• 1:54:10
  addressing the head of the department. I
• 1:54:13
  Unknown: would go through the more procedure they're familiar with. It's not that. They're not familiar with our status. They're certainly not familiar with that type of of attachment is to say, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? K? Now you may wanna notice I do I do agree with that too. On that,
• 1:54:31
  but that's the next step in the protocol they're gonna understand. Okay. Okay?
• 1:54:36
  Just telling you. You
• 1:54:38
  Unknown: know how you know how we you know how we send lawful legal notices to the law enforcers?
• 1:54:44
  We always send it to the superiors.
• 1:54:46
  Unknown: And this is how we this is where our power is to be effective Wow. With what we do. Especially on that. Well, that's due process. You know I'm talking about due process here, but it's administrative due process.
• 1:54:58
  K?
• 1:55:00
  So you've asked you ask everybody you can talk to and get their opinion.
• 1:55:04
  And you could probably state your case in the middle of those conversations and the dialogue.
• 1:55:09
  If they all rule against you, what's the next step in my administrative
• 1:55:14
  appeal?
• 1:55:16
  K? Period.
• 1:55:18
  You may get a hearing. You may get just one officer.
• 1:55:22
  You may get an administrative
• 1:55:25
  judge in a little administrative court.
• 1:55:28
  I don't know. It depends on the situation. Probably just be another person or small panel,
• 1:55:34
  but that's the way to go what I would suggest. You wanna go
• 1:55:38
  and
• 1:55:39
  chase these people or whatever. You go do what you wanna do. K? The established way to do it is go through the appellate level.
• 1:55:47
  And then should they rule against you at every level,
• 1:55:51
  now you can take the agency to court.
• 1:55:55
  But you've got to exhaust your administrative remedies
• 1:55:59
  first.
• 1:56:01
  Unknown: It's pretty simple.
• 1:56:02
  K? Yes.
• 1:56:05
  Unknown: Know mean? Got some well, there's more. We haven't heard we heard from her. Humor, you say? Yes. We could use some humor.
• 1:56:14
  Unknown: Yeah. You know, like, Lisa,
• 1:56:16
  they're here in Wisconsin.
• 1:56:17
  And I think just about everywhere,
• 1:56:20
  they tell you, if you look online, that you have to bring your,
• 1:56:23
  you know, your birth certificate and your social and whatever they want for so they can give you a real ID and a national ID and get a gold star. Get a yellow star.
• 1:56:34
  But you know? So I had the information in my pocket, and I went through this. Can I wear one on my chest to represent it?
• 1:56:41
  Can I have six points, please?
• 1:56:44
  Yeah.
• 1:56:46
  So, anyway,
• 1:56:47
  was 2019,
• 1:56:48
  and, we were cutting up in line anyway. And, and as I got up there
• 1:56:53
  and filling the thing out, and it says race. And I said, well, I used to run sprints.
• 1:56:58
  And she goes, oh, you won't have to fill that part out. So that's kinda optional, you know, whenever they throw the race thing at you because that's the the you know?
• 1:57:06
  Unknown: Like the story I told you yesterday about the shoe shine guy when I sold shoes. They had a gal come in that did fill our application. It said sex,
• 1:57:14
  and she said, yes. Once in Omaha.
• 1:57:19
  Unknown: Yeah. And ironically,
• 1:57:21
  though, it, you know, I was wearing white, which was nice, but my teeth weren't near as white as they should have been. So I'll have to remember that for my next photo.
• 1:57:30
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:57:31
  Alright.
• 1:57:32
  Thank you, Murr. Okay. Somebody else wanted to get a comment in, a question, or some analysis. Or you just wanna say hello? Have a live with Murr.
• 1:57:41
  Okay. Who is this again?
• 1:57:44
  Unknown: Good manna.
• 1:57:45
  Unknown: Oh, manna. Okay, buddy. Yep.
• 1:57:48
  Unknown: Go ahead. Well, Paul Paul wanted
• 1:57:51
  in there somewhere.
• 1:57:53
  Unknown: Five, ten minutes ago.
• 1:57:54
  Unknown: Oh, okay. I hear the whisk there. I just can I
• 1:58:00
  Unknown: It's all the lines real quick? All the lines. Go ahead, man. Because after the Whistler is done,
• 1:58:06
  I'm going to take control.
• 1:58:08
  Unknown: Alright, I can be here. It
• 1:58:10
  gets assertive at times.
• 1:58:13
  Unknown: I just really want to thank Kizana and and and Brent and other America and everybody being here because I get accused when I start saying that I'm a national and being in the cowboy white Montana, everybody thinks
• 1:58:28
  I'm a racist and they equate those things. And I just wish and hope that when they get on here, they can realize that they're just so wrong. So it's awesome. It's a great group. Thank you.
• 1:58:41
  Unknown: Has been my job.
• 1:58:43
  Unknown: When they're done calling your names and they don't know what else to call you, and that's what they know you have won.
• 1:58:51
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:58:53
  Yep.
• 1:58:56
  Unknown: It's you you need to tell the some of those Montana boys and girls is from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties,
• 1:59:05
  not your skin color.
• 1:59:08
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:59:10
  Unknown: Okay? Yep. Thank you. Alright. Very much.
• 1:59:14
  You're welcome, man. I'm glad you're out there, buddy. And we're about to close shop here at least on the public side.
• 1:59:23
  For the end of Tuesday,
• 1:59:24
  June 2 and we're glad you joined. It's a good show today. We've had two really good brisk shows this week concentrating on the meaty things about what we do and teach and
• 1:59:37
  thank you for the compliments, Zana, William, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow.
• 1:59:41
  Bye.
• 1:59:45
  Alright. Uh-oh. Strap
• 1:59:47
  yourself in. Paul's got the microphone switch going to open.
• 1:59:51
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 1:59:53
  Well, I just wanna clarify my understanding of the difference between freedom and liberty. People wonder, you know, they they and and liberty with with liberty and justice for all and all that happy shit.
• 2:00:06
  And they're they're claiming, I want my liberty. Well,
• 2:00:10
  the way I see it,
• 2:00:12
  freedom and liberty is freedom
• 2:00:14
  is the freedom, simply put, to do whatever it is you want to do provided it does not cause harm or injury to another.
• 2:00:26
  Liberty,
• 2:00:27
  as I understand it, is no different than a ship
• 2:00:33
  docked at a port
• 2:00:35
  and the soldiers,
• 2:00:36
  the sailors
• 2:00:38
  go on liberty.
• 2:00:40
  And their liberty is
• 2:00:42
  the freedom
• 2:00:44
  to conduct themselves
• 2:00:45
  as though they were free
• 2:00:48
  they were free,
• 2:00:49
  but within
• 2:00:51
  certain
• 2:00:52
  constraints,
• 2:00:54
  and that that liberty
• 2:00:56
  will end absolutely
• 2:00:58
  positively
• 2:00:59
  when the ship once again sets sail.
• 2:01:02
  So I want freedom, which
• 2:01:06
  is perfect
• 2:01:07
  and immutable
• 2:01:08
  and undeniable.
• 2:01:10
  I don't want
• 2:01:11
  the permission
• 2:01:13
  to act as though I'm free because I am.
• 2:01:17
  Unknown: Well, there's a difference freedom
• 2:01:20
  Unknown: things.
• 2:01:21
  Unknown: Does one of require Has dominion on there. Go ahead. Does one of them require somebody else's permission? That's the problem. You got freedom under the fourteenth amendment, but you got restraints of their public policy.
• 2:01:34
  Then you don't have freedom. But then that's not liberty. To
• 2:01:38
  Unknown: me You don't have It's permission.
• 2:01:41
  Unknown: That's why the symbol
• 2:01:43
  yeah. Hold on. You may in a second. That's why the r is a small r as opposed to the capital r in the declaration of independence. It's different source
• 2:01:54
  of where you get. One of them is right permission.
• 2:01:57
  The other is true god given rights.
• 2:01:59
  Was that Dave that was wanting to say something? It was.
• 2:02:04
  Unknown: Good ear, Roger.
• 2:02:06
  Unknown: So a couple things The whole program's gone before he bellies up to the bar here. Pretty unusual.
• 2:02:13
  Unknown: Hi, Dave. Morning. Quite a, yeah, it was quite a brisk show today.
• 2:02:18
  I unmuted a couple times, but I yep. I backed off and,
• 2:02:23
  lot of great stuff. Good to hear from Izana and and everybody that chimed in today. Hey, Dave. But to me, you know, I know a lot of folks. I was never in the military.
• 2:02:33
  It's not just the navy.
• 2:02:36
  Anytime you you get permission to leave the base when you're
• 2:02:41
  enlisted,
• 2:02:44
  you know, in active duty,
• 2:02:46
  it's called a liberty.
• 2:02:48
  That to me, that's part time freedom.
• 2:02:51
  And now I call I heard a commercial.
• 2:02:55
  Oh, man. It was last year sometime, and it was about a it was a a congressman here from Michigan wanting people to call about something. And I thought, you know what? I'm calling. And I called, and and this you could tell he was a young white punk college kid. You know?
• 2:03:15
  Michigan State University is right there in Lansing
• 2:03:18
  and where our state capital is, and and he answered the phone for the the congressman's
• 2:03:25
  office. And and I started talking and and and telling him, you know, that I was a national. I said, do know what a national is? And he said,
• 2:03:34
  oh, you're you're a white supremacist.
• 2:03:38
  You're a racist.
• 2:03:40
  And he hung up on me,
• 2:03:42
  literally. And I called back,
• 2:03:45
  and I was so mad. I called back 15 times and they would not answer the freaking phone.
• 2:03:52
  And that guy pegged me as a racist.
• 2:03:55
  Yeah.
• 2:03:56
  Unknown: White supremacist because I tried tell what an animal there. There's an example of that in the Bible. David says don't throw your pearls before swine.
• 2:04:05
  Unknown: Oh, boy. I didn't hear him snorting, and I didn't see his little curly tail. Man, you got some intuition.
• 2:04:12
  Unknown: Little intuition. Hey, Dave. Just just just so you know, just just the the Statue Of Liberty in in in in New York
• 2:04:21
  is in a tiny on a tiny island. Island? Yeah. Right? Named
• 2:04:28
  Alice.
• 2:04:29
  Unknown: Alice Alice. Alice?
• 2:04:31
  Alice.
• 2:04:32
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's an alignment. It's a Statue Of Liberty's they could. It's not because they couldn't put it on freaking land, like, two miles up the street.
• 2:04:43
  Yep.
• 2:04:45
  Have you ever noticed that there are chains around
• 2:04:49
  Unknown: Statue
• 2:04:49
  Of Liberty's feet?
• 2:04:53
  Unknown: Oh my god. I can see that. Oh my gosh.
• 2:04:57
  Unknown: You should look at some pulled up pictures. Hold on. At the bottom, you can see chains.
• 2:05:02
  Unknown: It's hard to get word statue of life. And and I'm pretty sure the Statue Of Liberty is a man in
• 2:05:09
  Unknown: drag. We lost control, Paul. The Statue Of Liberty is also
• 2:05:14
  perched
• 2:05:15
  atop
• 2:05:16
  an 11
• 2:05:17
  pointed
• 2:05:19
  military
• 2:05:20
  fort
• 2:05:21
  that Darcy.
• 2:05:23
  Yep. That was
• 2:05:25
  repurposed.
• 2:05:26
  It
• 2:05:28
  was in the middle,
• 2:05:29
  and they repurposed it and put a statue on it to Okay. Conceal the fact that it was there, and it predates
• 2:05:37
  modern society,
• 2:05:38
  modern humanity. This this iteration of humanity.
• 2:05:42
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 2:05:44
  Unknown: You're correct, Paul. ISIS.
• 2:05:47
  ISIS.
• 2:05:48
  Look
• 2:05:49
  at where it came from.
• 2:05:52
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:05:54
  Thank
• 2:05:56
  you, Sherry.
• 2:05:57
  Alright.
• 2:05:58
  Facing the Harvard people who probably asked me handle it. They wanted us
• 2:06:03
  Unknown: they they wanted us to accept the dregs of society
• 2:06:07
  here in America.
• 2:06:11
  Okay.
• 2:06:13
  Unknown: Well, we did. They turned themselves into kings and queens, Dave. We're trying to undo that.
• 2:06:18
  I don't wanna be a Jew slave. I'm assuming you don't want to either.
• 2:06:23
  Does anyone else You got it, brother. I love today's show. Azana and William, and you guys are just making Patty Willett. Proud, everybody.
• 2:06:31
  Now hold a little female voice just trying to say something. Is that Murrah? Are you talking to us, sweetie? Patty?
• 2:06:36
  Unknown: No. She's talking to somebody. Yeah. You tomorrow
• 2:06:39
  Unknown: at noon
• 2:06:40
  Unknown: with you. I see that. Uh-oh. Somebody's unmuted, and they have a private telephone conversation that I don't think they want broadcast.
• 2:06:48
  Unknown: So Alright. What type of an appointment is it?
• 2:06:52
  Unknown: That's
• 2:06:53
  not our business.
• 2:06:54
  Okay. I'm sorry. Let me see if I can find what's
• 2:06:57
  Unknown: want. Going inquiring minds wanna know.
• 2:07:02
  Unknown: Alright. Nothing for Raj. I'm Vamuz. She
• 2:07:05
  Unknown: got muted, Paul.
• 2:07:07
  Unknown: Alright. Don't forget that poem.
• 2:07:10
  That poem about the Statue Of Liberty was by Emma Lazarus, the Jewess.
• 2:07:14
  Okay?
• 2:07:15
  Unknown: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Everywhere. They're everywhere. On Ellis Island. They're two separate islands.
• 2:07:25
  Unknown: What island is it on?
• 2:07:28
  Unknown: I don't know, but I hope to never have to visit New York again. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Love you. I don't think the island has a name. It's just a fort.
• 2:07:37
  Unknown: I have in the middle of the water. I have I have a comment for you I wanted to say earlier, but, that that that's my understanding, just food for thought on, on the, capital s, versus the small small letter s.
• 2:07:52
  It's not Roger
• 2:07:54
  bailed. Right? It's
• 2:07:56
  Unknown: oh, he bailed? Okay. Yeah. Roger has his finger on the hang up button. So when he says goodbye, he's gone. Okay. Goodbye. And he's okay. I just Esana,
• 2:08:06
  Unknown: may I say something to you before you go? I so appreciate your humbleness today,
• 2:08:12
  And I also appreciate Rogers,
• 2:08:16
  noticing
• 2:08:17
  and acknowledging
• 2:08:18
  the importance of capitalization
• 2:08:21
  or
• 2:08:21
  the nonexistence
• 2:08:23
  of it thereof.
• 2:08:24
  So
• 2:08:25
  why he is so dead set against the all caps name, I don't know. But to hear Roger say today
• 2:08:34
  when Marcus said the importance of the capitalization
• 2:08:38
  of s in state,
• 2:08:41
  and Roger agreed with her. He's moved a step forward,
• 2:08:45
  and I was thankful to hear it. I yield. And your humbleness,
• 2:08:49
  Azana,
• 2:08:50
  I just can't say so much
• 2:08:52
  about you wanting to wash Roger's feet.
• 2:08:56
  I can appreciate that, and thank you.
• 2:09:00
  Unknown: Thank you very much.
• 2:09:03
  Unknown: Please
• 2:09:03
  finish what you were going to say about the S.
• 2:09:07
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:09:10
  Thank you. Okay.
• 2:09:15
  This is just my
• 2:09:17
  thoughts.
• 2:09:18
  It's my understanding. It's
• 2:09:21
  important
• 2:09:23
  how the word is written.
• 2:09:26
  First off,
• 2:09:27
  it's the meaning of the word,
• 2:09:29
  whether you write a capital s, small letter s. It's really not important how the words are arranged.
• 2:09:36
  What matters is what the word actually means when it's capitalized,
• 2:09:41
  and
• 2:09:42
  capital letters are in this language, English language.
• 2:09:46
  We don't have it in my language.
• 2:09:48
  In English language, it emphasizes
• 2:09:52
  nouns.
• 2:09:53
  It's
• 2:09:54
  a name.
• 2:09:56
  As opposed to when it's a small letter,
• 2:09:58
  it's a verb.
• 2:10:01
  Right? So there is a difference,
• 2:10:05
  not in particularly
• 2:10:06
  on the capitalization of the letter. I I I would arranged
• 2:10:11
  letter is the meaning of the arranged letter in in the context of the sentence it was put on. Just I would disagree.
• 2:10:20
  Unknown: It is Okay. Whatever they say it in the document that they used it. Talking.
• 2:10:27
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:10:30
  Unknown: Okay. Is he done? Yeah.
• 2:10:33
  Unknown: Or would you say
• 2:10:35
  Unknown: I mean, you look in there He's still talking, Samuel. Deadly word.
• 2:10:40
  I'm talking.
• 2:10:42
  Unknown: No. But he was talking, and you interrupted him, Samuel. And you
• 2:10:46
  Unknown: at some point, somebody's gonna have to talk. So I was waiting, and now I'm talking again. So who's up? Well You tell He was talking Europe. He was talking when you interrupted him.
• 2:10:57
  Unknown: Hey. You know, this could all be settled if you only apply your own definitions
• 2:11:02
  to each document that you provide that you put forward.
• 2:11:07
  And then there is no argument about
• 2:11:10
  how something is written and what it's defined as. You define it yourself
• 2:11:16
  and all is settled. Fair
• 2:11:18
  enough? Really
• 2:11:20
  strange, Paul, that this conversation
• 2:11:22
  came up when I got so chastised last week for saying the same thing and
• 2:11:29
  Alright. Supplying your own definitions
• 2:11:32
  and nope.
• 2:11:35
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:11:36
  Now,
• 2:11:38
  Sherry, you got chastised last week because you were repeating the same thing over and over.
• 2:11:43
  Oh gosh. She left the meeting. Okay.
• 2:11:46
  She was chastised last week because she was saying the same thing over and over. She was slurring her words. She was exceedingly loud, and she was talking over people and interrupting.
• 2:11:57
  That is why she was chastised last week. Just so we're clear about that.
• 2:12:02
  Samuel,
• 2:12:04
  he was still talking,
• 2:12:06
  and you interrupted him. Now I would like his sonnet to finish what he was saying,
• 2:12:12
  and then
• 2:12:14
  you can disagree
• 2:12:15
  with him.
• 2:12:17
  Now let's let's have a little order and a little decorum, and let's have a little courtesy
• 2:12:22
  here because we're still on the air,
• 2:12:26
  and I don't want the listeners to think that we're a bunch of unruly shits that only have interest in saying what we want to say.
• 2:12:36
  To hell with everybody else. That's not what this is. This is a conversation.
• 2:12:40
  This is not a lecture.
• 2:12:42
  Well, except for me, because this couple of minutes is pretty much a lecture, but let's
• 2:12:49
  let's respect people,
• 2:12:51
  please. Can we? Okay. Izana,
• 2:12:54
  take
• 2:12:55
  it away. Samuel
• 2:12:57
  is after you,
• 2:12:59
  and then Sherry can make her comment now that she is back in.
• 2:13:04
  So Izana, go for it. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you.
• 2:13:09
  Unknown: All I was gonna say was
• 2:13:12
  it's
• 2:13:13
  not that you are incorrect,
• 2:13:15
  you are correct.
• 2:13:16
  Okay? And it is what they say it is that's correct.
• 2:13:21
  But,
• 2:13:22
  ultimately,
• 2:13:22
  whether as a as
• 2:13:25
  a national,
• 2:13:26
  you have the option,
• 2:13:28
  and that's the beauty of the status we're on. You have the option to participate on the thing that they provide you to fill, whether you capitalize in a small letter or however you wanna write it, however they want you to write it or not.
• 2:13:43
  And that
• 2:13:44
  option is entirely
• 2:13:46
  on you,
• 2:13:48
  but not if you are a US citizen.
• 2:13:51
  You don't have that option.
• 2:13:53
  Okay. And there is the difference.
• 2:13:57
  It is what you say it is. It is entirely
• 2:14:00
  your choice, and it's the most beautiful thing. It's the most I I I don't the more I understand it, the more liberating liberated I become
• 2:14:10
  in in the understanding of I am actually free,
• 2:14:15
  so just for what it's worth.
• 2:14:17
  There's really no need to to get upset,
• 2:14:20
  or they did this and they did that and they did it this way. We don't have to participate.
• 2:14:26
  But should you choose to participate,
• 2:14:28
  then that is your choice, and they can present to you a form to fill out however they wanted to fill out.
• 2:14:36
  And,
• 2:14:37
  and that that doesn't change the facts. Like I said earlier, if you wanna rent a room in in middle of Austin,
• 2:14:44
  you have the choice. You could
• 2:14:47
  do that if you wanted to or never get anywhere near Austin.
• 2:14:52
  That option is entirely yours, but not if you are a US citizen.
• 2:14:58
  Unknown: Why yield?
• 2:15:01
  Unknown: Well, what you have to do in all of these documents
• 2:15:04
  is find out what their terms mean. Because when you sign it, you're agreeing to those terms.
• 2:15:10
  So if they're asking you for two sources of residency and you supply two sources of residency
• 2:15:16
  and sign it, you just told them that you're a resident.
• 2:15:20
  Same thing in the INA. I've been trying to challenge people
• 2:15:24
  to look up what the INA's definition
• 2:15:27
  of a
• 2:15:28
  national is,
• 2:15:30
  what a state is,
• 2:15:32
  because
• 2:15:33
  if it's upper and lower case, there's a different definition.
• 2:15:38
  Now what is a national?
• 2:15:40
  You know? Wouldn't you wanna know what that is? What is a a lower case state,
• 2:15:46
  an upper case state in their definitions? I think that's important.
• 2:15:50
  Otherwise, you're signing to something you don't understand
• 2:15:55
  or you're confused on or you're just you're you're you're
• 2:16:00
  you're assuming
• 2:16:02
  something
• 2:16:04
  that may not be the case.
• 2:16:07
  Unknown: That's absolutely correct.
• 2:16:09
  Unknown: When Roger started out in this whole thing with me,
• 2:16:13
  the most important thing he said to start with,
• 2:16:17
  The two most dangerous words in the English language
• 2:16:22
  are person
• 2:16:24
  and resident.
• 2:16:26
  And I believe that. I never use the word person.
• 2:16:29
  I'm a man or somebody else, maybe a woman
• 2:16:33
  or a child,
• 2:16:35
  but never a person.
• 2:16:37
  And Well
• 2:16:39
  I I don't reside anywhere. I have a dominion which is equal to my Ilodium.
• 2:16:45
  Roger keeps throwing in all other words. All I've looked up all the other words.
• 2:16:51
  The only one they haven't attached
• 2:16:54
  is domain or dominion.
• 2:16:57
  Inhabitant,
• 2:16:59
  all this stuff goes back to the fourteenth amendment.
• 2:17:04
  And taxes.
• 2:17:06
  I I mean and
• 2:17:09
  when it comes to our addresses,
• 2:17:12
  they're looking for residents through address. I think it's important that we use the nondomestic
• 2:17:17
  address
• 2:17:19
  kind of layout as well.
• 2:17:21
  I think that's important because we're setting ourselves apart
• 2:17:26
  from this thing Roger calls, and I agree with, Babylon.
• 2:17:30
  It's just that simple.
• 2:17:32
  You know?
• 2:17:33
  It's a spiritual battle ultimately
• 2:17:36
  Yeah. And all these tools are being used to deceive us. That's all I'm trying to say. Nothing more.
• 2:17:43
  Know the definitions. Know what you're signing.
• 2:17:48
  Unknown: Yeah. If
• 2:17:50
  Unknown: I could May I now? Samuel.
• 2:17:53
  Wait a minute, Izana.
• 2:17:54
  Sherry's turn.
• 2:17:56
  If you hold dominion over your household, aren't you the one who defines the terms?
• 2:18:03
  Well, no. I mean, why are we trying
• 2:18:05
  wait a minute. Hold on. It was a rhetorical question.
• 2:18:10
  Let me finish my piece here.
• 2:18:13
  You old dominion. You're the one who decides what the terms mean in your own household.
• 2:18:19
  Why are you letting your maids, butlers, and servants
• 2:18:22
  tell you what the words are, and you've gotta abide by that? How dare us
• 2:18:28
  that we stand back and let them tell us what their words mean? We better start telling them what our words mean
• 2:18:36
  and put them on notice. I yield. I agree. I agree.
• 2:18:41
  Unknown: You're loud. I I agree.
• 2:18:44
  Unknown: I So what? Does that change what I'm saying?
• 2:18:48
  Unknown: It just makes me feel
• 2:18:52
  Unknown: Okay. Fair enough. Is this better?
• 2:18:55
  We better start taking control of our own households and our own maids and butlers
• 2:19:00
  because
• 2:19:01
  if we're sitting here trying to figure out how we,
• 2:19:05
  you know,
• 2:19:08
  make our decisions based on their definitions,
• 2:19:11
  we're in deep, deep trouble. Is that better for you all? I yield.
• 2:19:16
  Unknown: Like, Souls and Ethan. Yeah. Burned in the camps. Right? It was very much better, Sherry. So sorry, Murray. Didn't mean to interrupt you.
• 2:19:24
  Unknown: Yeah. If if I could if I if I may.
• 2:19:27
  I would say that absolutely what Samuel, what you said, Sherry, what you all said is is just
• 2:19:33
  very correct.
• 2:19:35
  And,
• 2:19:36
  really,
• 2:19:37
  if you go back a hundred and fifty years two hundred years ago,
• 2:19:42
  you know, what did they do to fix to to make the railroads?
• 2:19:46
  Right? They imported Chinese.
• 2:19:48
  They imported people from all kinds of this the unwanted
• 2:19:51
  low low end people, right,
• 2:19:54
  into the country and slave them to death,
• 2:19:57
  right, to make their railroads.
• 2:19:59
  One could say that was done for commercial purposes,
• 2:20:03
  but one could also say that it was done to replace
• 2:20:07
  the people of this nation.
• 2:20:10
  Right? Now to the point
• 2:20:13
  of nearly 99%
• 2:20:15
  of the
• 2:20:17
  is like those people that were imported.
• 2:20:20
  And so I agree with you
• 2:20:22
  when when when you say when Samuel, everything you said, that is absolutely correct. Sherry, what you said is absolutely correct, and those are the small steps that we all have to take as people
• 2:20:35
  of this nation now,
• 2:20:36
  right, to
• 2:20:38
  right the wrong that was done.
• 2:20:40
  However, in the meantime,
• 2:20:43
  are some real things we have to participate in, such as commerce,
• 2:20:48
  such as, you know, use you know, other, you know, banking, what have you.
• 2:20:54
  And
• 2:20:56
  we are such a tiny minority
• 2:20:59
  that that
• 2:21:01
  there there's a reason. Like, if you wanna rent a hotel, there there's gotta be a way for the hotel owner to not get in trouble, and they'll have to ask you for certain documentation.
• 2:21:12
  Kind of the same thing. Right? So we have to live in the system that con cons construct they have created for the rest of us until this is this wrong is written
• 2:21:22
  made right.
• 2:21:24
  Right? And I I I
• 2:21:27
  mean, this experience has
• 2:21:29
  invigorated me in a way that I don't quite understand yet.
• 2:21:33
  Okay? But I'm just not gonna slide
• 2:21:36
  and let this pass and and then do nothing about it.
• 2:21:42
  And and it's so much fun when they look at me and then they see that I'm an immigrant. You know, I have a little bit of accent and I look a little different
• 2:21:51
  and they're confused.
• 2:21:53
  I love it.
• 2:21:56
  Unknown: It's good for everybody.
• 2:21:58
  Yeah. Let me just let me just say one thing about railroads. Alright? Maybe people don't realize back when they were being built, they were getting funds, and so they were building railroads in circular motions where they weren't needed so they could keep getting funds, I yield.
• 2:22:14
  Unknown: Rosanna, I
• 2:22:17
  when it when you're talking about this commerce thing, that's
• 2:22:20
  that's one of the things I like about Brose's declaration of independence and publishing that in your local paper of record.
• 2:22:27
  Now you're telling them that you're you're you're
• 2:22:30
  you're back to the republic,
• 2:22:33
  and you're no longer this resident trust,
• 2:22:36
  and you're under those
• 2:22:38
  original
• 2:22:40
  protections
• 2:22:42
  of the bill of rights, etcetera.
• 2:22:46
  And then on top of that, the way I intended it when I have enough of my I've got $200 worth of notaries to do, so I've been a little slow on getting it done. But
• 2:22:56
  all of those pay pieces of paper
• 2:22:59
  have my nondomestic
• 2:23:00
  address on it.
• 2:23:02
  It tells them that I'm a Christian, number one,
• 2:23:07
  one of the people, number two,
• 2:23:09
  and a Californian.
• 2:23:11
  I don't use that word state anymore because I don't trust it.
• 2:23:16
  And
• 2:23:17
  with with all of this paperwork and it gets notarized,
• 2:23:20
  etcetera, at some point, this is all going to the attorney general
• 2:23:24
  to tell him who I am, where I am, and what I am.
• 2:23:28
  Unknown: Now Yes. But, Samuel, may I ask? Interrupting.
• 2:23:32
  Unknown: With this Fair enough. Let me make my point first, then you can talk.
• 2:23:36
  Now with that paperwork,
• 2:23:38
  I'm gonna tell him
• 2:23:40
  there's certain things that I'm going to make choices on out of necessity.
• 2:23:45
  One of those things is gonna be my driver's license.
• 2:23:49
  And I'm basically gonna tell them that I'm not waiving any of my rights as a Californian.
• 2:23:56
  Okay?
• 2:23:58
  So that I can live,
• 2:24:00
  that I can survive.
• 2:24:02
  Because to not have this thing
• 2:24:06
  is I have no options about your rules on it. So out of necessity,
• 2:24:12
  I'm going to keep it, but I'm not waiving my rights
• 2:24:15
  as a state.
• 2:24:16
  No. I don't wanna use the word as a Californian.
• 2:24:19
  Okay?
• 2:24:20
  And I'm gonna do that probably with a few items,
• 2:24:24
  but it's being supported
• 2:24:26
  by my claim of who I am, where I am, and what I am. If you don't put a claim in there to oppose you being a resident,
• 2:24:34
  to oppose you being a person,
• 2:24:36
  to oppose all these,
• 2:24:38
  you know, different words
• 2:24:40
  they've taken control of and make a claim,
• 2:24:44
  then you really don't have a whole lot of ground to stand on. And you're serving two masters the way I look at it. I yield.
• 2:24:51
  Unknown: I have a question for you, Samuel.
• 2:24:55
  Why are you gonna pay an officer,
• 2:24:58
  a notary,
• 2:25:00
  to confirm who you state you are?
• 2:25:03
  Well, I just And that's your whole hold on. Hold on. And that's why you withhold
• 2:25:08
  putting forward
• 2:25:10
  putting them on notice
• 2:25:12
  of who you are because you don't have the money to pay the office that they require by their rules? That makes no sense to me.
• 2:25:21
  Why are we operating under
• 2:25:24
  their rules?
• 2:25:25
  We've gotta stop this
• 2:25:27
  and stop trying to navigate through their junk,
• 2:25:31
  as Charlie so eloquently put it quite a few years ago.
• 2:25:37
  Unknown: I found their junk. Would be my witness.
• 2:25:40
  Unknown: What's Hey. You know what? All you have to do is be your own witness with the the heavenly father. No. I don't even like that word. No. Nope. Oh, okay. Not sufficient.
• 2:25:51
  Is it sufficient for the father
• 2:25:53
  when you speak to him that you come to him alone or do you do it a witness
• 2:25:59
  to have a conversation with him? I don't think so. The Bible says two witnesses. I'm sorry.
• 2:26:07
  Okay.
• 2:26:08
  You can't decide who you are?
• 2:26:11
  And that's why there's a Wait a minute. The only reason you need two or three witnesses
• 2:26:17
  is because you're you are asserting
• 2:26:20
  that someone else has caused you harm.
• 2:26:23
  What I'm saying to you, when you stand up and say who you are to, your servants and butlers,
• 2:26:31
  as Lauren for from Ohio
• 2:26:33
  would say,
• 2:26:34
  you don't have to explain anything to them. And why are we explaining ourselves other than just telling them
• 2:26:43
  who we are?
• 2:26:44
  Sherry Is enough enough?
• 2:26:47
  Unknown: Sherry, respect All these
• 2:26:50
  listen to me for a minute.
• 2:26:52
  If you could do something about your phone, your message would be a lot easier to
• 2:26:58
  take because it's it hurts my ears. I mean,
• 2:27:01
  it for some reason, I love both new and I don't know. The truth does hurt some people. On, you have this crap. No. It's too loud. Loud phone.
• 2:27:10
  Unknown: It's just Too loud. I'm gonna make sure to do with what you're saying. It's how loudly you're saying it. And when you were raising your voice
• 2:27:18
  Unknown: So please
• 2:27:19
  please take into consideration
• 2:27:21
  what I'm saying. And
• 2:27:23
  this conversation happened last week, and I got chastised for it. No. You got chastised because you were interrupting.
• 2:27:31
  Unknown: You were repeating the same thing over and over and over again,
• 2:27:35
  and you were slurring your That is important. You were slurring your words. I healed.
• 2:27:41
  Unknown: And as Charlie said, permanently.
• 2:27:44
  Unknown: One of the reasons I wanted to speak and get in a little earlier is because I've actually got something I gotta get done. So I'm gonna have to leave, but, you know, sometimes,
• 2:27:53
  you know, some of us are actually doing other stuff. So to get in is maybe sometimes something that we just wanna do and so we can move on, but I yield.
• 2:28:05
  Unknown: Scott. May I ask you a question too?
• 2:28:08
  Unknown: Oh.
• 2:28:10
  Sorry.
• 2:28:11
  Was that to me?
• 2:28:13
  Unknown: No. This is Nana. I wanted to
• 2:28:17
  Unknown: ask Sherry,
• 2:28:18
  Nana, just just give me one second, guys. My god. Don't Sherry, Sherry, sorry about that. Sorry about that. But
• 2:28:26
  last week, you were loud.
• 2:28:28
  You were slurring your words. You were interrupting people, and you were repeating the same thing over and over and over again five times, if I remember correctly.
• 2:28:37
  Yeah. You were muted a few times, and I think you were removed from the room once
• 2:28:42
  Unknown: because Do not need to cast size again. I said I yield permanently,
• 2:28:47
  and I meant it. Bye.
• 2:28:50
  Unknown: Well, I just wanted to apologize,
• 2:28:52
  but it was just it was purely a reaction to what was going on in the room.
• 2:28:58
  Okay?
• 2:28:59
  So
• 2:29:00
  there's no need to yield permanently, but there's there's there is a need to yield
• 2:29:05
  within
• 2:29:06
  within the, you know, the give and take, the push and pull, the conversation.
• 2:29:11
  Don't talk over people. Okay?
• 2:29:14
  Alright. Now, Mana and
• 2:29:16
  Izana, I think you two wanted wanted to
• 2:29:20
  Unknown: Izana last. He said, have a good day, everyone. Thank you so much.
• 2:29:24
  Unknown: Oh, okay. Well, crap.
• 2:29:27
  Alright. Well, Mana, jump on in.
• 2:29:31
  Unknown: I I could I could
• 2:29:33
  see why this is kinda falling apart, but I
• 2:29:37
  just wanted to ask Cherry how
• 2:29:42
  she
• 2:29:44
  notarized and did her paperwork
• 2:29:48
  Unknown: I think also, sorry to interrupt you, but
• 2:29:56
  Unknown: Comments?
• 2:29:57
  Go
• 2:30:04
  Unknown: ahead. You might as well, Julie.
• 2:30:06
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. So, Manna, this is Julie. I don't think that Sherry Sherry well, I know Sherry never did a revocation of election with the IRS. And Sherry, sorry, if you're listening to me, I'm talking on your behalf. I'm just trying to answer Mana's question.
• 2:30:20
  I understand where Sherry's coming from you guys. I'm sorry, but Sherry adds valuable content. And Paul, I don't feel like Sherry did that last week in the manner which
• 2:30:32
  she said she did. She's always trying to get she always has valuable information,
• 2:30:38
  and everybody's trying to talk. We all want to say something. And sometimes, yeah, when we say, may I or Roger, we talk over each other. That's just to be expected
• 2:30:47
  since we can all open our mics whenever we want to, which is something that's very valuable on the show to be able to do in the first place. But, anyway,
• 2:30:57
  I hope we can just all come together as a family and get along because a lot of us here don't have anything outside of this for people who are like minded and think the same.
• 2:31:07
  But, Manna, I don't think Sherry ever did a revocation of election. I think she just stopped contracting
• 2:31:13
  with the IRS, which many people have done in other groups that I am in. They're not filing revocations of elections, and they're not filing,
• 2:31:23
  they're not filing,
• 2:31:24
  one pagers as nationals with the secretary of state. They're just living in the private, and
• 2:31:30
  they are not I know they are subject to those jurisdictions,
• 2:31:33
  but they're living in the private, and they're not, they're not complying with the mandates out there that are coming our way from this cabal government.
• 2:31:42
  But I know for a fact she never did her paperwork with the IRS, and I don't believe her husband did either, but I can't speak for him.
• 2:31:49
  Unknown: Oh, okay. Well, that that explains her position.
• 2:31:53
  I've I've also kinda heard of
• 2:31:56
  people,
• 2:31:57
  pursuing
• 2:31:58
  that route.
• 2:31:59
  I just feel like Rogers is a more
• 2:32:02
  solid
• 2:32:04
  way to go, but I I understand that. I I just wanted to try and understand her
• 2:32:10
  position and why why
• 2:32:13
  she was saying what she was saying, and so that makes sense. So thank you. Thank you. Yeah.
• 2:32:21
  Unknown: I yield. I yield.
• 2:32:23
  Unknown: We're doing pretty good on the whole, seeing this house of 60 member family family.
• 2:32:30
  Unknown: Yeah. Better than my family. I agree, Mark.
• 2:32:35
  I've actually been chiming in a lot more lately
• 2:32:38
  based on exactly what Julie was saying. I've
• 2:32:44
  been listening, you know, three years and being a national and trying to
• 2:32:50
  get to a point
• 2:32:51
  because I've opened my mouth and stumbled a few times and gotten people to say, oh, well, you're saying you're Samoan
• 2:32:58
  and
• 2:32:59
  blah blah blah. Realized that I was kinda doing
• 2:33:03
  a few things wrong
• 2:33:06
  in my verbiage,
• 2:33:07
  so I had to stop and learn again.
• 2:33:11
  And then I would have to try and
• 2:33:13
  reiterate my explanation,
• 2:33:15
  which I know is harder to do. I wanted to be able to say it right the first time.
• 2:33:21
  And now moving forward, I just realized that actually doesn't seem to matter that
• 2:33:26
  most people, including my friends and my family,
• 2:33:30
  except for my father,
• 2:33:32
  just
• 2:33:34
  seem to
• 2:33:35
  have a different word. They want to say I'm a zealot or a racist
• 2:33:40
  or
• 2:33:42
  I'm
• 2:33:43
  wasting my time and I need to just
• 2:33:46
  go along and get along and enjoy life.
• 2:33:51
  I'm just kind of like, well, how long is that gonna last before none
• 2:33:56
  of us can do that?
• 2:33:58
  And so now and, like, everybody else just wants to party and and
• 2:34:04
  do drugs and
• 2:34:08
  and just entertain themselves to death, it seems. And so
• 2:34:13
  now I
• 2:34:15
  kind of glommed on to this
• 2:34:19
  group, and I'm trying to be
• 2:34:21
  friends because all of my friends really
• 2:34:25
  just don't understand
• 2:34:28
  me even more than they didn't understand me before.
• 2:34:32
  So thank you. Over.
• 2:34:44
  Unknown: Anyone here is so funny. Oh,
• 2:34:46
  Unknown: go ahead. Go ahead. Sure, ma'am. You can go before me.
• 2:34:53
  You want me to go?
• 2:34:58
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:35:01
  Unknown: Watched two videos.
• 2:35:04
  Proof they are vaccinating our meat.
• 2:35:09
  And everybody better be very careful now about
• 2:35:13
  what kind of chocolate or if they even want to eat chocolate anymore. They are growing lab
• 2:35:20
  generated
• 2:35:22
  cacao,
• 2:35:23
  and they are also using CRISPR technology
• 2:35:28
  in the actual trees. And so just be very careful because this involves all the major companies Mars, Nestle, Hershey's.
• 2:35:37
  And it is 100% being replaced because the main place where they get it in Africa,
• 2:35:43
  that country is experiencing weather warfare like they have never had before,
• 2:35:49
  extremely, extremely dry heat, which is ruining their cacao crops.
• 2:35:54
  So everybody just please be careful.
• 2:36:08
  Unknown: Thanks for that. I'm a chocolate addict addict.
• 2:36:11
  I've been had kinda
• 2:36:14
  cut it out in order to deal with deal with some
• 2:36:18
  of my
• 2:36:19
  digestive issues, and it seems to single handedly been one of the the
• 2:36:25
  keys to the puzzle, sadly. But I usually buy chocolate
• 2:36:31
  not from any of those companies you just stated things that seem more origin and dark
• 2:36:37
  and
• 2:36:39
  Mana? Organic, but it still seems like it was messing with me. And no matter how much they say that a little dark chocolate's good for you, it didn't seem like it was
• 2:36:50
  doing good for me anymore.
• 2:36:52
  Unknown: Mana?
• 2:36:53
  I don't usually buy chocolate from those countries either. I buy Swiss chocolates,
• 2:36:57
  and they're even doing this to the Lindt chocolates.
• 2:37:01
  For anybody who doesn't know what those are, they're Swiss chocolates, and it's spelled l I n d
• 2:37:06
  Or sometimes they go by Lindorf.
• 2:37:08
  But it's a very famous and expensive
• 2:37:12
  chocolate manufacturer
• 2:37:14
  out of Switzerland. And
• 2:37:15
  they're even putting the CRISPR technology,
• 2:37:19
  and they're doing
• 2:37:21
  the it's basically GMA modification to the chocolate, just like they're doing with all the foods here.
• 2:37:28
  So
• 2:37:29
  let me tell you right now what
• 2:37:31
  it says.
• 2:37:33
  They even mentioned Chick fil A. For you guys who like Chick fil A might be
• 2:37:38
  wanting to reconsider
• 2:37:40
  what you
• 2:37:41
  so
• 2:37:42
  let's see. They're doing lab grown
• 2:37:45
  cocoa butter.
• 2:37:46
  And the cocoa supply chain, 75% comes from West Africa.
• 2:37:51
  And they're getting
• 2:37:53
  hammered by weather warfare
• 2:37:55
  through drought and higher temperatures all purposely being done.
• 2:38:00
  And they're doing gene editing with CRISPR, CRISPR
• 2:38:04
  technology.
• 2:38:06
  And this involves
• 2:38:08
  Lint and it involves
• 2:38:10
  Mars, Nestle, Hershey.
• 2:38:12
  And Mars creates Three Musketeers, Dove, Twix, M and M's and all the other all the favorite Halloween candies that we give out here in The States on October 31. So
• 2:38:24
  everybody just needs to be extra careful. And I saw a video on them vaccinating the meat. And you can see them cutting open the meat. And you can see the stuff that's on the inside. And thank God I'm vegan.
• 2:38:35
  Unknown: I yield Right. Captain's chocolate mound of Wisconsin.
• 2:38:40
  Unknown: Pray over whatever you consume.
• 2:38:44
  Unknown: Yep. Yep. And I'm thinking I'm vegan also also.
• 2:38:48
  I haven't had chocolate in
• 2:38:50
  six years,
• 2:38:52
  Unknown: and I'm in a all the plants.
• 2:38:54
  Unknown: All the more reason to pray over your food every meal.
• 2:38:58
  I'm at my gate. I will lose contact
• 2:39:00
  now. Bye.
• 2:39:03
  Unknown: And seven years into no coffee coffee.
• 2:39:06
  And from Lorraine Day, of course,
• 2:39:09
  with God's help, healed from an enormous
• 2:39:11
  tumor on her chest. And
• 2:39:14
  but a lot of it was intense as well as just not good habits.
• 2:39:20
  In her case, she was operating like around the clock on people bleeding in San Francisco and needing
• 2:39:26
  their bones repaired and living
• 2:39:28
  off of whatever was in the vending machine and drinking coffee and it
• 2:39:32
  caught up to her. And so
• 2:39:35
  she was very healthy thereafter until she passed passed,
• 2:39:39
  which,
• 2:39:40
  you know, who knows? It was apparently a heart valve. So,
• 2:39:44
  you know, we we we were out after a while, but they also attack us.
• 2:39:50
  Unknown: Hello? Hello? Yes?
• 2:39:55
  Unknown: Wanted to say something. Missus Christian Christian?
• 2:40:03
  Unknown: Hello? Hi, Christian. Hello,
• 2:40:06
  Unknown: manna,
• 2:40:07
  and,
• 2:40:08
  Paul,
• 2:40:09
  whoever said we need to pray over our food. You know, God gave us that in the Bible.
• 2:40:14
  I mean, this is the time we gotta I've been holding my food up and
• 2:40:19
  and praying
• 2:40:21
  to God to cleanse it,
• 2:40:23
  it like it's manna,
• 2:40:25
  health to my body and and health to my bones and, healing to my brain.
• 2:40:31
  That's what we need to do, pray over it because it
• 2:40:35
  is it is almost almost,
• 2:40:38
  it's
• 2:40:40
  just it's just hard to find out what to do, but, you know, whoever
• 2:40:44
  just said about vaccinating
• 2:40:46
  the meat, oh my gosh. And, also, they're putting metal in the meat. Get you some rare earth, vitamin magnets.
• 2:40:55
  Go and you put a magnet to that meat. If it if it attracts to that meat, you know it's metal in there.
• 2:41:02
  You might wanna check that out.
• 2:41:05
  I yield.
• 2:41:12
  Unknown: It seems like we just need to really connect locally.
• 2:41:17
  We need to build a
• 2:41:19
  have us
• 2:41:21
  go back to what we've been doing for hundreds and thousands of years because whatever we're doing now is new and
• 2:41:28
  not sustainable,
• 2:41:31
  not, not what how
• 2:41:33
  we developed for all these years, and
• 2:41:37
  we don't have any relationships with our farmers and our food and
• 2:41:44
  our local environment,
• 2:41:47
  And that's that's why, like, the Westin A. Prides Foundation
• 2:41:52
  is noticing that that even
• 2:41:54
  the natives, they'd all eat different things
• 2:41:57
  but be really healthy, but they were eating
• 2:42:01
  within their area area
• 2:42:05
  and not wasting food. They would eat eat more
• 2:42:09
  of the animal than we eat,
• 2:42:12
  and they would eat eat
• 2:42:13
  and grow their own food and and fertilize
• 2:42:17
  with their own fertilizer.
• 2:42:20
  I can't I can't believe we're dependent
• 2:42:22
  and wondering how we're gonna grow food without the Hormuz opening.
• 2:42:27
  I just find that to be to be
• 2:42:30
  a ridiculous conversation.
• 2:42:32
  I've I've never had never had been dependent on on
• 2:42:37
  the Strait Of Hormuz in order to grow my food.
• 2:42:40
  So
• 2:42:41
  so and they say long term what was that? Short term pain for a long term gain? And I'd say, well, how come we can't can't short term
• 2:42:52
  pain
• 2:42:54
  change our
• 2:42:57
  our growing and farming methods to
• 2:43:01
  hugelkultur,
• 2:43:04
  compost,
• 2:43:06
  systems
• 2:43:07
  in
• 2:43:08
  order to just totally be independent. I mean, I know I'm kinda preaching to the choir, but it's it's
• 2:43:15
  just time. I this
• 2:43:18
  and this this community has really helped helped put
• 2:43:22
  the the final
• 2:43:25
  push for me to to
• 2:43:28
  practice practice what
• 2:43:31
  I preach preach instead of just
• 2:43:34
  saying it. It it really helps to have people
• 2:43:39
  that recognize
• 2:43:41
  these things and that I may you can talk about about
• 2:43:45
  the yield. And
• 2:43:47
  Unknown: you're talking about gardening, which I practice also,
• 2:43:51
  and doing your own compost and things like that. And this is from a farmer. You know? We can do this at a gardening level. It's quite easy to do. But at a farming level with thousands of acres, it's a lot harder.
• 2:44:10
  Unknown: That's the short term pain that
• 2:44:13
  the this this new this whole this
• 2:44:17
  doesn't that what happened in the Dust Bowl? Didn't we do
• 2:44:21
  some huge mistakes and try and
• 2:44:25
  move to this commercial farming monoculture
• 2:44:30
  not following rotation?
• 2:44:34
  And we ended up with the Dust Bowl. We're kinda moving into that same thing. And
• 2:44:39
  I understand,
• 2:44:41
  you know, that it's made it easy,
• 2:44:44
  but those farmers are dependent
• 2:44:46
  on machinery,
• 2:44:48
  the Strait Of Hormuz,
• 2:44:50
  and they don't make any money.
• 2:44:53
  They're
• 2:44:54
  really, it seems like they're kinda just eking along, struggling, getting subsidized
• 2:45:00
  instead of
• 2:45:02
  reaping benefits for feeding people like they should.
• 2:45:06
  I I
• 2:45:09
  don't see how
• 2:45:11
  we can't change our farming practices,
• 2:45:14
  still produce.
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  And, also, we're producing so much food,
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  but it doesn't have
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  the nutrients.
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  Like, Wallach and Dave and the Thumb, they're kinda talking about
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  how you're not as hungry when you have food and have nutrient food and the nutrients. Like,
• 2:45:37
  they're growing a lot of corn and
• 2:45:40
  weed and vegetables
• 2:45:42
  and stuff that just constantly make you hungry, and you want to eat more and more because they're devoid
• 2:45:49
  of the nutrients. If we were to put
• 2:45:52
  and grow the food with the nutrients, these farmers could grow less food and feed
• 2:45:58
  and and satiate
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  the same amount of people.
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  And
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  it
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  I I we've just gone so far commercially
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  and made these machines, and
• 2:46:12
  there there's, you know, there's so many people aren't working or really doing
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  much. A lot of my generation wants to sit on YouTube and play video games to make money.
• 2:46:25
  I go to the grocery store, and I see
• 2:46:29
  I got this kind of irritated my mom. I guess I don't wanna make anybody mad, but I see old ladies
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  working
• 2:46:39
  in the grocery store
• 2:46:41
  scanning
• 2:46:42
  at the counter. I don't see anybody young,
• 2:46:47
  anybody
• 2:46:48
  my age, anybody
• 2:46:50
  they're gray haired old ladies that need to be enjoying the end of their life, but they are working
• 2:46:58
  at the grocery store
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  primarily.
• 2:47:01
  That seems to be the largest workforce.
• 2:47:04
  I'm like, what
• 2:47:05
  why is this the largest workforce?
• 2:47:09
  Is this what I'm looking forward to?
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  Is working
• 2:47:14
  until I'm 90 years old?
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  I just I just am trying to
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  say that
• 2:47:24
  people need to step up. We need to learn
• 2:47:28
  and be accountable and move. And where our body was built to move,
• 2:47:34
  to put our hands in the soil,
• 2:47:38
  to
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  not break our backs and not be,
• 2:47:43
  whipped slaves,
• 2:47:45
  but to
• 2:47:46
  enjoy
• 2:47:47
  and commune
• 2:47:49
  and connect
• 2:47:50
  and grow
• 2:47:51
  and be stewards of the land, and we
• 2:47:56
  we're just turning it over to some sort of
• 2:47:59
  spray.
• 2:48:00
  All we look at is NPK
• 2:48:03
  to grow food. There's
• 2:48:05
  so much more that the food needs than nitrogen,
• 2:48:08
  phosphorus, and potassium.
• 2:48:10
  But all we look at is
• 2:48:12
  urea
• 2:48:14
  and all these chemicals.
• 2:48:17
  There's so much more to it, and and the food needs it
• 2:48:22
  and would grow better.
• 2:48:26
  And instead, we we import Mexicans and other
• 2:48:29
  people to do this labor,
• 2:48:33
  and then we have a machine. And
• 2:48:35
  I don't know. I'm just kind of rattling on and on at this point, but I
• 2:48:44
  I don't see I
• 2:48:45
  don't see why
• 2:48:49
  we can't grow food a different way and support the same amount of people. I think Monsanto
• 2:48:55
  is lying
• 2:48:57
  when they say
• 2:48:59
  they're gonna feed the world by commercial
• 2:49:01
  farming and stuff. It
• 2:49:05
  it's never been that way, and it doesn't seem like it's working.
• 2:49:09
  How are you?
• 2:49:11
  Unknown: You are I really
• 2:49:15
  Unknown: don't know I don't know how old are you, but if I was you,
• 2:49:18
  I look at another country that aligns with your values, your core values,
• 2:49:23
  even if you have to learn a language and get yourself ready
• 2:49:26
  to move to that country.
• 2:49:28
  Because before things changes here,
• 2:49:32
  we to to change everything here and become honeymilk,
• 2:49:35
  the promised land again, the people have to change. And there's many more of them already brainwashed,
• 2:49:43
  and there's no way. And when you're gonna present your nationality and you're say, I'm a national, the best way I have done it is
• 2:49:51
  nine out of 10 is you all have your passport,
• 2:49:54
  and you don't explain, I'm a national. They don't understand that. Most people don't understand that. And you go, like, what does this mean here? This password is for CitizenSlashNational.
• 2:50:04
  And nine out of 10 has worked very well.
• 2:50:07
  Will they do something after that? No. They get confused. They guys just say, by the way, I am a national.
• 2:50:14
  And then if the conversation leads that way, I get deeper. If not, I just don't. But when you just come randomly,
• 2:50:22
  people are not they don't know geography. They don't know demographic.
• 2:50:25
  They don't know by law. They don't know nothing. They just know what's the best boutique
• 2:50:30
  depending
• 2:50:31
  their social
• 2:50:32
  activities
• 2:50:33
  and the stats from football or baseball, whatever it is.
• 2:50:42
  Unknown: I've I've definitely been there. Definitely done that same thing. I really thought the passport and the national right there would really get a good
• 2:50:51
  oh, tell me more. No. Most
• 2:50:54
  of my friends I really thought would attach to this
• 2:50:58
  strangely just argue and push it away.
• 2:51:02
  But as far as leaving and learning another language,
• 2:51:07
  that is
• 2:51:08
  I feel like I would just be
• 2:51:14
  letting
• 2:51:16
  everyone down.
• 2:51:18
  I've traveled a lot of places.
• 2:51:22
  The only place maybe I would really love to go is Fiji and live because the people are amazing.
• 2:51:28
  The whole place is amazing. It's unbelievable
• 2:51:32
  how the people are there, but
• 2:51:35
  it's not Montana.
• 2:51:37
  I I go everywhere.
• 2:51:39
  I travel. It's beautiful.
• 2:51:41
  I come back home to here, and
• 2:51:44
  I'm blown away again. And I'm just like, why would I live anywhere else?
• 2:51:50
  And in order to save this place,
• 2:51:54
  I can't leave.
• 2:51:56
  I can't
• 2:51:58
  I I it's
• 2:52:00
  it's gonna be hard.
• 2:52:02
  I'm not gonna give up,
• 2:52:04
  but I
• 2:52:06
  I'm gonna keep augmenting
• 2:52:08
  and changing my
• 2:52:11
  my, approach,
• 2:52:14
  and I've really
• 2:52:15
  had to
• 2:52:17
  shut up, and that's kind of why I've been quiet for the last three years, and I'm just now kind of chiming in and trying to be a part of this.
• 2:52:25
  I just stated some of my reasons earlier,
• 2:52:29
  but another one is that,
• 2:52:32
  I noticed that
• 2:52:35
  I didn't have my space, I didn't have my property at the time,
• 2:52:41
  and my own ability to do things, so I was just preaching about
• 2:52:47
  off grid and food and stuff, but nobody could see
• 2:52:52
  any of that. I was just talking. And so then
• 2:52:56
  Gandhi I know there's some
• 2:52:59
  historical problems with Gandhi, but again, what he says,
• 2:53:03
  be the change you wish
• 2:53:05
  to see. And I I realized that that's pretty much
• 2:53:09
  what you have to do. And like Conradger says, everybody says, oh, well, let's see how you do.
• 2:53:15
  So here I am, you know, three years down the road as a national.
• 2:53:20
  I've won some battles.
• 2:53:23
  I've been able to show people, like,
• 2:53:25
  I can change my schedule. I can go
• 2:53:29
  I can do whatever I really want. I can afford to do
• 2:53:33
  a lot of what I wanna do,
• 2:53:35
  and you guys are stuck
• 2:53:37
  nine to five.
• 2:53:39
  You got this and that.
• 2:53:41
  And I and when they ask me if I wanna go to a show or go hang out and have dinner or
• 2:53:48
  float the river, I can just go, oh, yeah. Sweet. Yeah. I can do that, and I'll just paint this wall,
• 2:53:54
  tonight,
• 2:53:55
  you know, and move on. And then
• 2:53:57
  when they want
• 2:53:59
  food and they wanna see something, I can show them my blueberries. I can show them my garden.
• 2:54:06
  Show them all these things. It maybe
• 2:54:09
  isn't happening right now,
• 2:54:11
  but I think I've had I've had one comment from a friend kinda being like, you're either really
• 2:54:17
  the stupidest person I know or the smartest. I don't know which. And so far, that's the closest
• 2:54:25
  to progress
• 2:54:26
  I've gotten.
• 2:54:28
  So I have just been really trying to be a example
• 2:54:34
  not by mouth,
• 2:54:35
  but by
• 2:54:36
  action.
• 2:54:37
  And that and if I leave,
• 2:54:40
  if I give up, like,
• 2:54:44
  this place folds. I I I don't
• 2:54:49
  I don't know what else to do.
• 2:54:52
  Unknown: Sometimes not by giving up. The founders of this country that fled from Europe,
• 2:54:57
  they saw all the signs,
• 2:54:59
  and they say, you know, I want some funeral religion.
• 2:55:02
  I want freedom.
• 2:55:03
  And they migrated all the way across the this ocean in rickety dicket boats,
• 2:55:09
  not luxury boats
• 2:55:11
  or luxury cruises.
• 2:55:13
  And they started they came here with no no holidays,
• 2:55:15
  no hotels,
• 2:55:17
  no
• 2:55:18
  paved roads.
• 2:55:21
  Basically
• 2:55:23
  on winter.
• 2:55:24
  They didn't even know the land,
• 2:55:26
  and many of them died in the seeding, but they were looking for freedom
• 2:55:31
  and religion
• 2:55:32
  practiced their faith, their religion, the way they thought they should have.
• 2:55:37
  And this is what happened to them.
• 2:55:39
  When you're pushed out
• 2:55:42
  from an area, from your own people,
• 2:55:46
  from your own kindred,
• 2:55:48
  from your own community
• 2:55:50
  because they wanna force their values
• 2:55:53
  that goes against your values.
• 2:55:56
  So, yes, there's a lot of things you could do in Montana and many other countries. I mean, other states you could live. But right now, based on what I read, forty five million people, men, are alone.
• 2:56:08
  They're alone, and half of them, they have chosen not to remarry
• 2:56:13
  or just to stay alone because they don't wanna deal with people.
• 2:56:17
  And they don't wanna disturb their peace
• 2:56:19
  because every time they try to find somebody or a family or community,
• 2:56:24
  they get scolded out because of the values.
• 2:56:27
  So now you got forty five minutes. That's not normal.
• 2:56:30
  We are meant to be social
• 2:56:32
  with especially with your family,
• 2:56:34
  then your standard family, then your town. Right now, I'm in a town right now, beautiful houses from the nineteen hundreds.
• 2:56:41
  And
• 2:56:42
  so basically,
• 2:56:44
  a new type of immigrations are in this community. Those beautiful house, Victorian houses,
• 2:56:50
  two floors.
• 2:56:51
  You know? At that time, I can imagine when you see them walking, the people at that their kids there's nobody in the in the streets no more, in the towns no more. Kids don't play outside
• 2:57:04
  because everybody's busy. And everybody wants to do a garden, but you cannot survive with a garden. I love gardening, but you can survive.
• 2:57:11
  But before you have thousands of people doing gardening, somebody was growing tomato, the other one's raising chickens, and you go barter and do all these things together.
• 2:57:20
  The only thing they wanna do now is go to the boutique, the younger people. And the other and the other people, they wanna go Bob Bob Evans or Denny's or wherever they go.
• 2:57:28
  And it doesn't matter. You you get the the ingredients and look. Do you understand the the meanings of these words and and all these ingredients? They don't care. So I I only have one life to live. I'm gonna live my life now. That's the attitude that I put on us. But if you go to some of these countries that we it's really hard to accustom yourself that we're not we haven't
• 2:57:49
  grown or
• 2:57:50
  part
• 2:57:51
  of that
• 2:57:53
  how can I say? Part of that culture.
• 2:57:57
  But you have thousands of thousand people that are already connected to the land.
• 2:58:03
  And even if don't have a garden, you could get your strawberries or whatever you are, depending on where in the world, your apple in the northern or the southern part of your mangoes, and
• 2:58:11
  you are able to communicate. And the sad thing is sometimes they don't look like you.
• 2:58:17
  They don't have the same skin color and have
• 2:58:20
  more.
• 2:58:22
  They're more aligned in many ways
• 2:58:24
  with your value than your own people.
• 2:58:27
  I'll never forget all of us from Canada in COVID time, and they're all in Canada were protesting.
• 2:58:33
  And all the battle ghouls from all the
• 2:58:37
  police,
• 2:58:38
  I forgot it was Quebec or Toronto, whatever it is,
• 2:58:42
  were hitting
• 2:58:43
  women
• 2:58:44
  and young little girls and boys that were family were going there,
• 2:58:49
  and they didn't care because the number one thing important is their career, their money, their power, their security, their pensions.
• 2:58:56
  And just forget about being merciful, humane. We're not a humane society, Lord. We're the only country that will send our elderlies
• 2:59:04
  to a home to die there
• 2:59:08
  and and the little and the little and the little babies and daycares.
• 2:59:13
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:59:14
  Comment.
• 2:59:20
  Yeah. I got a comment.
• 2:59:23
  Michigan.
• 2:59:25
  Thought it was a pretty good show today.
• 2:59:27
  The
• 2:59:30
  couple of things,
• 2:59:31
  know, because we were talking earlier about Astana and the license,
• 2:59:36
  you know, they want you to say that you're a US citizen or whatever.
• 2:59:40
  The
• 2:59:41
  clearest
• 2:59:42
  I've been able to get that straight in my mind
• 2:59:46
  is from this supremelaw.org
• 2:59:50
  website.
• 2:59:52
  I don't know if any of you guys have been there but
• 2:59:55
  I highly recommend this and
• 2:59:58
  it's supremelaw.org.
• 3:00:00
  And then he's got a document called Fed Zone 11
• 3:00:05
  PDF
• 3:00:07
  and then there's a preface to that.
• 3:00:11
  And on page five under notations,
• 3:00:15
  he talks about the Supreme Court has officially defined the key term United States to have three separate and distinct meanings.
• 3:00:25
  But anyway,
• 3:00:26
  you know, for me that was
• 3:00:28
  kind of a revelation.
• 3:00:32
  And, you know, I'm thinking that anything we sign, I think we have to be very careful
• 3:00:39
  that we also include something that specifies
• 3:00:43
  what kind of US citizen we are because I think,
• 3:00:47
  you know, they've kind of conflated everything. Everything's kind of just jammed together
• 3:00:53
  and
• 3:00:55
  people are not clear after a while what they are. And then the other thing I wanted to mention was Terry Lee
• 3:01:02
  on one of his shows, and Paul's got these on his
• 3:01:06
  Google Docs
• 3:01:07
  thing under Terry Lee.
• 3:01:09
  If you'd listen to Terry Lee, he's like, you know, when you sign something with the government,
• 3:01:16
  a whole bunch of presumptions
• 3:01:18
  run away.
• 3:01:20
  They you know, all the presumptions,
• 3:01:22
  they assume all kinds of things the minute you sign that document under penalty of perjury.
• 3:01:29
  And,
• 3:01:30
  you know, Terry Lee, you know, he uses what he calls a
• 3:01:34
  restricted autograph and that's kind of one of the things I've been working on and I think more of us
• 3:01:40
  may benefit from that if we can figure out how to do it.
• 3:01:44
  So that was just my comment.
• 3:01:47
  So supremelaw.orgfedzone
• 3:01:51
  is pretty important and
• 3:01:53
  anyway, somebody else can step in here if they'd like or if they got a question, I'm happy to take a question.
• 3:02:13
  All right, well thanks everybody.
• 3:02:22
  Unknown: Alright. Well,
• 3:02:25
  now seems like as good a time as any to take the stream down for the radio ranch with Roger Sales.
• 3:02:30
  This is the Tuesday,
• 3:02:32
  June 2 edition.
• 3:02:34
  Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM Eastern Time. You can also
• 3:02:41
  check out our website, thematrixdocs.com
• 3:02:45
  where you can find links to free conference call and actually join the after show discussion which I'm sure will continue on in some manner or form
• 3:02:53
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• 3:03:02
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• 3:03:02
  it for me.
• 3:03:04
  Thanks and have a great day.
• 3:03:07
  Ciao.
• 3:03:28
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• 3:03:37
  Unknown: Castle.