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- 0:04Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleventh, wo to Washington,
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- 0:31Speaker 1: Federal Reserve in focus, We're going to ask why is it,
- 0:34Speaker 1: with unemployment at four point seven percent, that the Chairman
- 0:37Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserve, for the chairwoman, I should say,
- 0:39Speaker 1: Janet Yellen, is not in a bigger hurry to raise
- 0:41Speaker 1: the key rate PIM. It might have something to do
- 0:43Speaker 1: with the fact that the underemployment rate is nearly ten
- 0:46Speaker 1: percent in this country. We're going to hear about the
- 0:49Speaker 1: brutal journey back to work for millions of Americans. Yes,
- 0:52Speaker 1: we'll be joined by our Federal Reserve reporter Craig Torres
- 0:55Speaker 1: will be joining us from Washington. Right now, Let's go
- 0:57Speaker 1: to the newsroom and Charlie Pellett with the Bloomberg Business
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- 1:01Speaker 1: The Dow, the SMP, Nestank, they are all advancing. SMP
- 1:05Speaker 1: five hundred index up seven points now a gain of
- 1:08Speaker 1: three tents of one percent at twenty one nine down
- 1:12Speaker 1: Industrials up fifty nine to seventeen thousand, nine ninety seven.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Again there are three tenths of one percent. Nastank also
- 1:19Speaker 1: advancing by three tenths of one percent. SMP five hundred
- 1:23Speaker 1: index holding at the highest since July, bolstered by speculation
- 1:27Speaker 1: borrowing costs will remain lower for longer amid moderate growth.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Hewlett Packard Enterprise CEO Meg Whiffan just wrapping up an
- 1:35Speaker 1: interview on Bloomberg Television. She talked about the outlook for acquisitions,
- 1:39Speaker 1: among other topics. We are interested in M and A,
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- 2:09Speaker 1: up now by one point six percent. Crude oil holding
- 2:13Speaker 1: above fifty one dollars a barrel of eighty one cents
- 2:16Speaker 1: now advancing one point six percent to fifty one eighteen
- 2:20Speaker 1: Gold up sixteen forty v ounce of one point three
- 2:23Speaker 1: percent now to twelve sixty three. Lulu Lemon out with
- 2:26Speaker 1: earnings this morning's uh this morning of shares advancing now
- 2:30Speaker 1: by four point nine percent. Lulu Lemon at seventy six
- 2:34Speaker 1: It is up by three dollars thirty one cents to
- 2:38Speaker 1: thirty two on Wall Street. Now, let's take a look
- 2:40Speaker 1: at other news from around the world. On Bloomberg Radio.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg News Room. I'm Sherry On.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has claimed victory in the race for the
- 2:50Speaker 1: Democratic presidential nomination, becoming the first woman to run as
- 2:54Speaker 1: a candidate of a major US party. She won four
- 2:58Speaker 1: of the sixt eights holding primary door concusses yesterday, including California.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders says he won't give up, although the Associated
- 3:06Speaker 1: Press reports is laying off about half of his staff today.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Donald Trump won the Republican presidential primary in California, but
- 3:14Speaker 1: many GEOP leaders are struggling to rally behind him. Main
- 3:17Speaker 1: Republican Senator Susan Collins says she would like to endorse Trump,
- 3:22Speaker 1: but he needs to stop insulting people. He is the
- 3:25Speaker 1: one who needs to start acting more presidential and articulate
- 3:30Speaker 1: clearly what a Trump presidency would look like. In a
- 3:34Speaker 1: speech yesterday, Trump took a more unifying path, vowing never
- 3:38Speaker 1: to let GOP voters down authorities, saying at least five
- 3:42Speaker 1: people are dead following I hit a run involving cyclists
- 3:45Speaker 1: in Michigan. Kalamazoo County of Prosecuting Attorney Jeffrey Getting says
- 3:49Speaker 1: the bike riders probably didn't know what happened. They were
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- 3:55Speaker 1: of the road. Who pick up. Trump was also morth
- 3:57Speaker 1: found struck them from behind the head of the and
- 4:00Speaker 1: its correction officers union is facing federal corruption charges along
- 4:04Speaker 1: with a hedge fund founder. The FBI says Norman C.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Brook and Murray Hoberfeld, the hedge fund founder, have been arrested.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Haberfeld is accused of paying kickbacks to Seabrook. In return,
- 4:15Speaker 1: Seabrook agreed to transfer millions to a hedge fund operated
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- 4:45Speaker 1: stocks are advancing SMP up seven now a gain of
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- 4:51Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash is taking stock. The FED in Focus
- 4:57Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio were brought casting live from Persians inside
- 5:02Speaker 1: six conference at the Highatt Regency in Orlando, Florida. The
- 5:06Speaker 1: topic is the labor market. Unemployment four point seven percent.
- 5:11Speaker 1: That is down from the nine and a half percent
- 5:13Speaker 1: level when the economy started expanding in June of two
- 5:16Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Indeed, employers have been adding an average
- 5:20Speaker 1: of about a hundred and fifty thousand jobs a month
- 5:23Speaker 1: so far this year, but there are still troubling issues
- 5:26Speaker 1: in the job marketing. Here to tell us more. As
- 5:28Speaker 1: Craig Torres, Federal Reserve reporter for Bloomberg News, joining us
- 5:32Speaker 1: from Washington. Craig, thanks for being with us the good news. Yes,
- 5:36Speaker 1: unemployment four point seven percent and as I noted, hundred
- 5:40Speaker 1: and fifty thousand jobs on average being created each month.
- 5:43Speaker 1: But in your most recent article you write that it
- 5:47Speaker 1: has been a brutal journey back to work for millions
- 5:50Speaker 1: of Americans. Tell us more. I think that is driving
- 5:54Speaker 1: the sentiment we're seeing play out in the election, which
- 5:57Speaker 1: you could use any number of words from anger, bitterness, uh,
- 6:02Speaker 1: kind of a shattered American dream, kind of feeling. Um.
- 6:07Speaker 1: It did take people who lost their jobs a long
- 6:11Speaker 1: time to get back to work, and often they ended
- 6:13Speaker 1: up in jobs that were lower paying, less benefits, and
- 6:18Speaker 1: less security. So we went back and talked to some
- 6:22Speaker 1: of the people we interviewed when they were unemployed and
- 6:25Speaker 1: asked them what was it like back to employment? And
- 6:29Speaker 1: the stories weren't pretty. So Craig, uh, tell us some
- 6:34Speaker 1: of the stories. Uh, And it seems a lot of
- 6:37Speaker 1: us know unfortunately, Um, friends of friends, even you know,
- 6:42Speaker 1: some family members that are really on tough times, really
- 6:44Speaker 1: having a hard time finding a job. Give us an
- 6:46Speaker 1: example and tell us is it is it really different
- 6:50Speaker 1: from other times coming out of business cycles. Um. So,
- 6:55Speaker 1: one person we interviewed in our story today was Sally Richards.
- 6:58Speaker 1: She I think she's a great example. So she's a lawyer,
- 7:04Speaker 1: ran her own practice in Ohio, had more than a
- 7:07Speaker 1: hundred clients, and so she moves to d C kind of,
- 7:11Speaker 1: you know, for family reasons, personal reasons, figuring she would
- 7:16Speaker 1: land a job pretty quickly. Um, ended up looking for
- 7:20Speaker 1: two years. Um, you know, just hearing nothing back from employers. Um,
- 7:26Speaker 1: building up a debt pile. And I'll tell you, Kathleen,
- 7:29Speaker 1: when you talk to these people, what's hard to reflect
- 7:31Speaker 1: in print, It is when you're sitting in front of
- 7:35Speaker 1: them as a reporter. Um, what's hard to reflect in
- 7:38Speaker 1: print is this sort of anguish you see like someone
- 7:43Speaker 1: it's like someone who just went to a fight or
- 7:46Speaker 1: a cancer battle or something like that. It costs these
- 7:49Speaker 1: people a lot personally, not only financially, but as I
- 7:54Speaker 1: say in the story, like from a self esteem standpoint,
- 7:57Speaker 1: it was very expensive. Craig, if you can describe what
- 8:03Speaker 1: is the thread that runs through all of these stories
- 8:06Speaker 1: for you? I think Tim, the threat is, this isn't
- 8:12Speaker 1: the America that I grew up in. Um, This isn't
- 8:16Speaker 1: the America that I'm used to. This isn't the America
- 8:20Speaker 1: that UM is, you know, that had the promises that
- 8:25Speaker 1: if you work hard, that you would get ahead. It's
- 8:28Speaker 1: it's defeating, and it's it's confusing, and and there often
- 8:34Speaker 1: aren't answers why nobody's gonna is calling you back, for example,
- 8:40Speaker 1: And so I find I find that very troubling as
- 8:44Speaker 1: many people in the electorate obviously, and obviously if the
- 8:47Speaker 1: people like this easily can slip into losing their homes
- 8:50Speaker 1: and their apartments, and the homelessness is a growing problem
- 8:54Speaker 1: even for people like this, so kind of fall through
- 8:56Speaker 1: the cracks. Um in some sense, then is Janet on
- 9:00Speaker 1: what we would call debbishness. She's a labor market economists.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Her her sense of, oh, yes, the economy is doing better.
- 9:05Speaker 1: But then she says right after that, of course there's
- 9:08Speaker 1: still a lot of slack. Is that is she's you know,
- 9:13Speaker 1: really in connecting into this ethos as well, do you think, Craig,
- 9:18Speaker 1: I think one of the odd things, a little bit odd,
- 9:21Speaker 1: is this gamble she's making um that if she just
- 9:26Speaker 1: runs the economy hot enough, good things will happen. It's
- 9:31Speaker 1: a it's a it's hard to appreciate what a big
- 9:34Speaker 1: gamble that is because the reason people apply for jobs
- 9:40Speaker 1: and don't hear back or kind of structural. Give you
- 9:43Speaker 1: an example, there's this software that almost every employer uses
- 9:47Speaker 1: called to Leo. So if you apply for a job today,
- 9:51Speaker 1: chances are probably eight out of ten that you're going
- 9:55Speaker 1: to be on some to LEO interface. To Leo is
- 9:58Speaker 1: this impersonal scoring of your resume, of your personal data.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Even though it doesn't ask your age, it figures out
- 10:07Speaker 1: your age, and the hiring manager just sees basically a
- 10:13Speaker 1: bunch of statistics, never sees the person, and this allows
- 10:17Speaker 1: them to flip through dozens and hundreds of applicants in
- 10:21Speaker 1: a highly in personal way. Can the said really change
- 10:24Speaker 1: something like that? Maybe? Maybe maybe if you push the
- 10:28Speaker 1: economy down to like two unemployment, people will be scrambling
- 10:32Speaker 1: to have, you know, for talent. But I don't think so.
- 10:36Speaker 1: I mean, Craig Tores, thank you so very much an
- 10:39Speaker 1: eye opening story. I highly recommend that everybody take a
- 10:43Speaker 1: look at it. I'll tweet it out Pim and I'll
- 10:45Speaker 1: teat out at Craig Torres and everybody can read it.
- 10:48Speaker 1: This afternoon, Well, I'm Kathleen Hays along with Pim Fox,
- 10:52Speaker 1: and we are broadcasting live at Person's Insight Conference in Orlando.
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