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#269: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 2 (1986) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? Welcome to What's Your Least
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Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd, and all of our
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favorite and least favorite scary movies.
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Because we believe every horror movie rifely has is fanbase.
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Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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My name is Jessie. And welcome, everybody.
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We are continuing our Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise
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coverage and we're going to be talking about Part 2 today.
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Yes. And everybody welcome Jessie
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back to the show. Yeah, Yeah, She had a bout of
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being unable to talk. Yes, if you didn't listen to our
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TB or not to be episode. Basically what happened is I was
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having like a very severe muscle spasm that I had to get several
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medications for from the doctor and the irritation and like all
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the neck muscles and stuff caused irritation in my vocal
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cords and I just couldn't talk until 2 days ago.
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No, a day ago even 2 days ago was still a little iffy.
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My voice might crack some today, but we're doing a lot better,
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you know, more confident. It's nice, like you're the one
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that gets hurt or sick in this marriage and you know it's cool
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that you keep finding new and entertaining ways to do this to
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yourself. Cool, thank.
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You it's not gotten still I. Didn't do anything to myself, I
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just woke up in misery. Well, OK, yeah, well, your
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muscles started freaking the fuck out.
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Yeah. And I was like, I mean, you felt
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it this morning even. It's still like a little tense
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there. It's a lot better than what it
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was like a solid rock a week ago.
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Yeah. It's it's nice being able to
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actually hear your normal voice. Yes, Jesse was not hamming it up
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when we recorded. That no, there's.
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I couldn't redo that if I tried. Yeah, it was.
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It was that rough for a full week.
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Yeah, it was pretty bad. Yeah, but we don't have to worry
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about that Now. We have Texas chance on Massacre
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Two. We're going to talk about it,
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but before we do, do you have anything you want to announce?
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there for people who want that. So yeah, check it out if you
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want to. It's March Madness theme this
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month. Yes.
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So we did the tournament of horror sequels.
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We did sequeasels. Sequeasels, as they called it.
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Yes, as they called it. Also this past Sunday our two
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year not to be from March came out.
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We talked about Demon Island AKA Survival Island AKA Pinata AKA
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Pinata Survival Island AKA Pinata Demon Island, but we just
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called it Demon Island because that's how it was listed on TV.
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Yeah, if you want to watch it, that's how you search for it
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right there. But check that out and watch
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that movie. Let us know your thoughts on it
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because I'm curious. If you like aggressively early
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2000s horror movies, you will enjoy that.
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That that move, that's one for the Joe evolution, right?
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There. Yeah, that movie right there.
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Yes, that. 'D be part of that, yes.
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OK, well, we got that out of the way.
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Yes, I have poll results from. Last forever.
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Last episode, yeah, my reminder went off to post, like where to
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watch? And I was like, oh, I already
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did. Yeah, a week ago, yeah.
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We've we've had this shoot waiting for a while.
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OK, so the long legs poll, I just came up with this one on my
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own because we had, it was a little bit busy that week
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before. Yeah.
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And really I just, I think it's a valid question.
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Did long legs live up to the hype?
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So I got everybody's answers and it is 73% of the people do say
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it lived up to the hype. OK, 27 said no.
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OK, for me it it lived up to the hype the first time I watched it
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and it continues to live up to the hype.
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OK I it didn't initially second watch I liked it more but still
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don't think it lived up to the hype.
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OK, so you still you're still firmly in the over hyped camp.
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It was one of those, I mean, it it was just like a victim of its
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own marketing, OK? It got hyped up really big, and
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that's cool. And they got money for it, but
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it didn't live up to it. OK?
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Yeah. All right, so we got that.
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Let's get into Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 2.
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All righty. This movie released August 24th,
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1986. We watched it on our Blu-ray,
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but if you want to stream it you can find it on Fubo TV, MGM
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plus, Philo TV and Pluto. Written by LM Kit Carson and
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Toby Hooper, directed by Toby Hooper, music by Jerry Lambert
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and Toby Hooper, special effects makeup.
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Tom Savini, OK, did not remember that and so we started watching
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when his name came up. Yeah, and we're like, oh, that's
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it. Stan Veeny lives again.
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Yeah, good for him. Always a good sign.
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Starring Caroline Williams is Stretch Dennis Hopper as Lutina
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Enright. Lou Perryman is LOGI.
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Didn't realize that was Dennis Hopper.
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You didn't realize that was him, do you?
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I know Dennis Hopper mostly from his voice work in Ants so.
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Or maybe it's A Bug's Life. One of those They're very.
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Do you not remember his probably best role ever as Bowser in the
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Super Mario Bros Movie? I actively block out a lot of
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that movie. He.
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Does too. This is OK.
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This is one of my favorite things about the Texas Chainsaw
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Massacre series. This is where we start getting
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future stars in the movies. We start with Dennis Hopper.
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We're going to get some fucking A listers all throughout this
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entire series. Not too long now before we talk
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about Renee Zellweger and Matthew McConaughey, yeah.
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And then next the one even has somebody too.
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We'll talk about that then. Yeah, that's this month.
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Yeah, yeah. You don't have to wait too long.
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We're we're doing a Texas chance 3 weeks.
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From now. Yeah, yeah, Bill Mosley is
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chopped top. Jim Sedow is the cook and Bill
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Johnson has a little other face. OK, all right, time for our
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favorite game on the show. Budget or bucked head?
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I played along this week because you played along on TV so I
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didn't have to do my petty revenge.
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Yeah. We did pretty good.
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Yeah, I feel like this. I feel like this is probably
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still bugged head. Like clearly almost a decade and
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a half later they decided they wanted to do a sequel.
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But I I don't think that that screams were going to give you a
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ton of money if it took that long to yeah, to decide to do
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it. It made a It made this mark in
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that decade. Yeah.
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But this is 12 years later. It's insane it took 12 years to
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get a sequel. 13, right? I thought it was 73.
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Was it 74? OK.
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All right, you are correct. It's Baghdad.
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It's a $4.7 million budget. It's honestly though, not bad.
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No, it's really not opening box office. 2.8 million Worldwide
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Gross 8 million. OK, not fantastic.
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This is kind of in line with a lot of movies.
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At this time, yeah. The whole media is where it got
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it's it's dinner. BHS.
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It's a 5.6 out of 10 on IMDb. Wow.
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Yeah, right. That's kind of rude.
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It's kind of surprising, honestly.
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I thought a lot of people love this one, but I don't think
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that's the case actually. I feel like you're about to just
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get your feelings hurt month after month for the next.
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Year. I know I'm I'm surprised on this
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one, not the other. I know exactly what's going to
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happen. I'm ready to be heard.
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I have 3 movies that also released in 1986 to compare it
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to. OK, I have a theme.
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The theme is surprisingly campy and surprisingly fun at the same
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time. Didn't expect the camp.
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Didn't expect the fun. OK, OK.
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I'd argue camp is fun, but that's fine.
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Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, well.
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That's that's the thing, I didn't expect the camp.
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And then it became like surprisingly extra fun as a
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result. OK so the first movie Friday the
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13th part 6 Jason lives. Wow, yeah.
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Now that one is camped to the core that.
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One's great. It's good.
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It's really, really good. That's the one that has the :)
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whenever a person gets their face bashed.
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In Tammy, Tommy Jarvis flirting his way out of jail with the
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sheriff's daughter. Yeah, and.
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Alice Cooper all up in that soundtrack.
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Yeah, he also resurrects Jason just straight up with like, it's
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like freaking. Signs.
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Yeah, and he also taunts him to death.
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Yeah, so that movie came out August 1st, 1986.
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Three $1,000,000 budget, $19 million gross.
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OK, so it did twice as well as actually more than twice as well
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as Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 26 outs in on 90 B OK, not bad.
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Yeah, that's OK. Next movie Maximum OverDrive.
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Wow, OK. Did not expect a Stephen King
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movie to be as campy as it was, especially when directed by
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Stephen King. Yeah.
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But this movie goes hard. We watched it for the first time
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last year. Yeah, love the ACDC soundtrack
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that happened here. I mean, so far your list just
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also seems like movies with awesome soundtracks.
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You know, that's actually true. I don't know if that's really
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going to track what the. 3rd would be.
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It might. So.
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Maximum OverDrive came out July 25th, 1980.
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Six $10 million budget. God damn.
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That is a budget movie. Yeah.
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Worldwide gross 7 point. Four.
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Yeah, yeah. 5.4 on IMDb. Surprising.
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I know, right? You know it's a fun movie.
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It is. A fun movie and I like that the
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resolution is just gasses up. Yeah.
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Fill us up, buddy. All right, Final Movie shopping
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mall. Yeah, no, that's still it's not
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a banging soundtrack in the same way, but yeah, yeah.
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Also, what is it? St.
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Walking? Oh yeah, you.
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Know what? OK, we got some in there.
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Yeah, so shopping mall released March 14th 1986.
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Eight $100,000 budget. Don't have a gross 5.6 on IMDb
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that movie gets. Blow up I see a lot.
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Of people like it for the right reasons.
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Is a movie called Chopping Mall really surprisingly campy
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though? I think the surprising part is
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that there's no chopping, so that the surprise camp comes
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from it being robots shooting lasers.
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That's that's a fair, fair assessment, OK.
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All right, so I have one tag line.
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Just one, yeah. After a decade of silence, the
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buzz is back. That's not.
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Bad. Yeah, I thought it was going to
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be more like the saw his family. You know, that feels like a
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fitting tagline for this movie. The saw is the law.
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Saw that might be our tagline. At the end of this movie.
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I love that. Can we draw a leather face with
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like a White claw logo on this chainsaw?
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That'll be a separate one. You'll have to do that
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separately, OK? Oh yeah, you already did the
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art. I've already drawn it.
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Yeah, it's done. OK, so have fun Facts.
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Yeah. Production started after a
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successful theatrical run in 1981 for the original Texas
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Chainsaw Massacre. Hooper was originally only going
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to be the producer of the movie. However, they could not find a
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director in the budget that they had, so he eventually just caved
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and stepped in did it himself. Originally they were going to
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have Gunnar Hansen do the role of Leatherface again, however,
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he declined due to a low offer which was, According to him,
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just scale. He felt offended by that.
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However, there are two sides to the story because they say he
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was indecisive about the whole thing.
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So they rescinded the offer and went with Bill Johnson and
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stuff. OK, so there's two sides of it.
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I don't know which one's right. I tend to believe Gunner in this
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case that tracks that they would try to fuck them over with the.
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Pay, I mean, and that could be why he was indecisive.
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Well he they got fucked over in the original 1 so he knows his
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worth now and stick to. It buddy.
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You know, I, I respect that. There's three sides to every
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story. Their side, that side, and the
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truth. Right, Right.
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Right, Right. Yeah, I'm happy that we got Bill
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Johnson. He we saw him at Scare Fest this
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past year. He is hilarious.
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Dude, the Leatherface panel was amazing.
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It was. Really, really good.
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It's probably my favorite. You know what I should probably
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throw out? We also have Tom Morga as
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Leatherface in this movie too, so we have two leather faces.
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He was there a part of that panel, which was amazing because
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he was also part of the Michael Meyer Meyers panel and the Jason
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Voorhees panel because he's played all of them.
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Yeah, he's he's been everywhere, man, I.
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Liked it. Yeah.
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Like he just, like, he just kept coming to the panel.
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He just kept seeing them. And he's like, Yep, that was
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them, too. Yeah.
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He was really cool. He's one of the only ones to do
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that. So chopped top.
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This is a surprise me. I never knew this a little bit
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before. He's the Hitchhiker's twin
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brother. All right, fraternal twins.
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Yeah, I can tell he was channeling that performance
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whenever he was doing the voice of.
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Chocolate, yes, I I could hear. Yeah, it had like similar
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mannerisms and like vocal tics, but yeah, clearly not the same
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person. And another thing that I wasn't
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aware of, you know, the little like body that they have around
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that they're using like at the start and then that he's
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carrying around the entire time dancing around with.
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That's the hitchhiker. His name is Nubbins.
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Nubbins, Sawyer. OK.
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And they took his body parts and just reattached him, and now
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he's just still part of the family.
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I'm going to be really honest, at the beginning I thought they
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were holding Grandpa up so that way he could be part of the
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chase. Really.
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Yeah. You know that would track.
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That's what's in my notes. They mean that would, yeah, that
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would go along with like how they usually operate, but no.
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OK nubbins. So then that explains why
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chopped top was like so attached to the body.
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Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah.
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Speaking of Chop Top and Bill Mosley, Bill Mosley actually got
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the part because he made a short of his own called The Texas
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Chainsaw Manicure, where he he played the hitchhiker in that
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movie and Toby Hooper happened to see it.
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And then he kept in the back of his mind, if I ever do another
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Texas Chainsaw movie, I'm going to cast him as a part.
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And then here we go. We got the second one and he
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cast him stuck true to it. I.
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Love that. There were a lot of extra scenes
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in the movie that were deleted. They cited pacing issues as a
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result of that. The stuff that we got caught is
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actually sounds like it could have been cool stuff.
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It's a lot of special Savini effects stuff that got caught
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because apparently there's a scene where after the chili
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competition, they go to a movie theater, I think it is, and they
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just take a bunch of, like, people leaving and they, like,
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use them and kill them for their meat for the chili.
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OK, Yeah, that's the scene. I think that has Joe Bob in it.
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And it would be cool to see some of that stuff and see those
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effects. But I do think that this movie
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generally is very well paced, so I think adding in stuff would
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probably kind of bog it down. It's also surprisingly long.
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It's like 30 minutes longer than the original.
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Yeah, and I don't think it, I don't think this is a movie that
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needs a 2 hour runtime. No, it's a.
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It's 1:45, I think. Yeah.
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So, yeah, that's pretty much the stuff that I got right there for
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fun facts. There's surprisingly not a whole
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lot of stuff out there, but I hope we had fun along the way.
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So we should be getting into our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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Jesse, you kick it off what you like.
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I think this is another Texas Chainsaw that has a really
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fantastic Leatherface jump scare.
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You know, we talked about that in the first one and that's
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iconic, but we get so engrossed watching stretch and chop top
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their interaction and then all of a sudden we just have
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Leatherface like running out of the record vault.
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It's so fucking good. Yeah.
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That is one of the best ones in the entire series actually in
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like I would say in the genre. And then I also just think Bill
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Mosley and Carolyn Williams, both of them, their characters
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are just so well realized and so engaging to watch on screen.
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Yeah. And I think that that's not
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something that we get a ton of in these movies.
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Like when you think about the first one, Yeah, like, we've got
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Sally, but what do we really know about?
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Yeah, the characters themselves don't really say that.
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It's the family that really does.
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Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that.
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It's kind of interesting. I think I was reading about her.
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She has played that character in like two or three other separate
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movies. She would be hired for the role
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and like, this is Stretch. So play Stretch.
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And then she created her own head cannon for why Stretch
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would be in these scenarios. Like she escaped from the place
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and she changed her name, you know, stuff like that.
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Part of me feels like it. It's stretch light in Hatchet 3.
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That's another one, she said. That's.
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That is stretch OK. She said Stretch went on to
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become a reporter. I mean, you know, that makes
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sense. She said she wanted to be more
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than just a schlocky radio DJ. It tracks with the character,
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Yeah, she, she in her head can and that is stretch in that
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series right there. I just figured that, you know,
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Adam Green wanted her A because horror icon.
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B Believable Southern accent. True.
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Yeah, she, she knows that. She's really good.
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Yeah, yeah. So those are those are my main
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goods with it. I think also like the world
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building of their their restaurant now it's not just a
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restaurant, but they're also like entering chili cook offs
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and they relocated to I this movie is also helpful for
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reminding me of how big Texas is.
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Like, Oh yeah, they relocated because it got too suspicious of
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all the chainsaw deaths. Like, and to me, I'm like, well,
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if you like, you just keep having chainsaw deaths.
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Like in some place like Kentucky.
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I mean, we're all gonna hear about it, but I guess in Texas,
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cuz how many Kentuckys can fit in Texas?
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More than two. Yeah, a lot of countries can fit
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in that state. Yeah, The biggest though, Texas,
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get over yourself. So there's bigger states out
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there. Alaska.
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OK, the good for me. I love the opening to this
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movie. It is so effective.
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This is a movie that I remember renting with my cousins and
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going over to their house and watching whenever I was a kid
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and it scared the shit out of me.
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That opening especially. I didn't know what was happening
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when they got on top of the truck and he's got the chainsaw
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behind the body. Like who the fuck is this guy?
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What is this thing? What is happening?
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He just chainsaws his head in half.
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Tokyo Gore police ruined the opening for me.
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How? Just thinking about the man with
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the chainsaw on the roof. Oh, really?
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Yeah. OK, yeah, it's one of my
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favorite openings though it this movie.
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It balances the camp with the horror better than the first one
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I think. Yeah, absolutely.
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That Toby Hooper is adamant that the first one is like, it has
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black comedy in there. Yeah, I don't think it lands and
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I don't like. Clearly people don't see it that
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way either because nobody thinks of it as a comedy.
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I. Forget where it was.
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I either heard or read it somewhere.
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But it was like Toby Hooper's like, yeah, no, the first one's
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a black comedy and nobody believed him.
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So when he did Texas Chainsaw too, he was like, it's a fucking
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comedy. That's exactly what he did.
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He leaned into it more as a result.
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I mean, the poster has The Breakfast Club.
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Yes. Mock up.
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You know, they are trying to tell you don't take the Yeah.
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But I like that they I feel like they handle that balance really
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well because we have those crazy moments with Dennis Hopper,
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especially whenever he has the chainsaw.
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I was like testing on the the stump outside the chainsaw
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store. And there's just so much about
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it. The cast is really fun.
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I think that they all have a good chemistry.
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They're all funny together, too. Especially Bill Mosley.
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He, like, really shines in this movie.
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And Chop Top is his favorite character.
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And you can tell explain that kind of character.
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It stands apart from the sequel. It's not a total rehash,
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although they rehash some moments, especially the ending,
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but I feel like it stands apart on its own.
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I OK is. That that's a good transition in
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the past, yes. OK, let's do it.
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I think the third act is basically a rehash of the first.
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It is maybe it's rehash. It is third act and it it.
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Suffers because of that, Yes, because I that's my least
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favorite part of the first one. Because we get to it and I'm
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like, oh, OK, so we're gonna tie her up and she's gonna be at
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family dinner and then grandpa's gonna try and hit her and then
21:42
she's gonna manage to run away. It's drawn out still and I I,
21:47
it's like, but guys, this was the joke.
21:49
The 1st movie, remember? Here it is again.
21:50
Well, you were able. You're allowed to laugh this
21:52
time. It's like Toby, this wasn't the
21:54
thing that really was. Yeah, it wasn't that great the
21:56
first time. Yeah, it yeah, it just it that
21:59
didn't land with me. Also like the first one, there
22:03
was a lot of like undertones with it, like politically.
22:07
Yeah. You know, and I think that's
22:10
part of what makes it like so long lasting and effective and
22:13
what makes it resonate. You can tell that's not the same
22:17
in this one. Yeah, yeah.
22:20
I mean, it doesn't have a message.
22:21
It just wants to be wacky. Yeah, and not every movie has to
22:24
have a message. It's just it's it makes it feel
22:28
cheaper. Well, you come off the first one
22:31
where you have the and then you go into this one and it like, I
22:34
mean, it's a serious movie and then it's a not serious movie.
22:38
So there's like a, I don't know, like you hold it to a different
22:43
standard than like a sequel to like, Scream or something.
22:46
You know what? I mean, yeah, Whereas Scream is
22:47
always like trying to look at something current with its
22:50
sequel. But it's always got that.
22:52
It's clearly got like the wink nudge, yeah, where it's like,
22:55
you know, with the audience is in on a lot of stuff.
22:57
Yeah. So this one is just, I don't
23:00
know it that's a big part of the tonal shift.
23:02
And I don't think it's necessarily like I'm happy for
23:06
it to be much more comedic and much campier, but like that
23:10
aspect of the tonal shift is a little off for me.
23:13
It was a. Little bit part of what made it
23:15
a fun. Movie.
23:15
Yeah, it takes away something like the cleverness behind it.
23:18
Yeah, yeah. The very first thing I had
23:20
written down was dinner scene in parentheses again, like, yeah,
23:23
it happened again. I will argue that they did punch
23:26
it up a little bit because we do have Dennis Hopper coming in
23:29
battling Texas or not battling Texas chainsaw battering,
23:32
battling Leatherface with a chainsaw.
23:35
It's a shame that Texas battle is not in a Texas Chainsaw
23:38
Massacre movie. Now, I won't say that will never
23:41
happen because they are still going both both parties.
23:45
But yeah, it it just lacks the grit of the first one.
23:50
And the grit was one is like half of the charm of the first
23:53
one of what made it so good. Yeah.
23:56
And like, I know that they're going for comedy and I know that
23:59
they're going for wacky, but a lot of the humor this time still
24:02
doesn't land for me. OK?
24:04
It's still not like, super funny in my eyes.
24:06
OK, all right, time for ugly. My ugly is all of them making
24:12
fun of N, right? They know that there has been
24:16
various chainsaw massacres throughout Texas.
24:20
Are you talking about the cops? Yeah, and the and the newspapers
24:25
and everybody's just making fun of this man who's like, hey, my
24:29
family disappeared 12 years ago, y'all haven't done shit and
24:34
people continue to be killed by chainsaw as this is SUS.
24:37
What? Let me ask you, what was his
24:39
relation to them? I think he said he was like
24:41
their uncle. That's what I thought too, but
24:44
then I saw where some people are confused and think that they're
24:47
like brother or sister, but I didn't.
24:50
They said uncle. I thought they said uncle I
24:53
wrote Ken in my notes cuz I mean.
24:55
Yeah, I mean that that fits. But yeah, I I feel like I heard
25:00
him say uncle. I'm pretty sure he did, yeah.
25:03
OK, but. Yeah, I just like this man is.
25:07
It's not like he's given some grand conspiracy theory, you
25:11
know what I mean? I mean, there are like
25:12
verifiably Chainsaw Massacre is happening throughout Texas.
25:16
People should be concerned. Yeah, like, if nothing else,
25:19
it's an unsolved murder of his family.
25:21
Of course he's going to be upset.
25:23
You know what I mean? Like it's just weird that
25:24
they're all like, look at this idiot.
25:26
Yeah, it's a little bit strange. My ugly is the fact that Drayton
25:31
Sawyer is feeding people to people who are unaware that they
25:35
are eating people. Yeah.
25:37
Just making them participate in cannibalism is kind of nasty,
25:42
yeah. Pretty shitty yeah.
25:43
You know what? Non consenting cannibalism I'd
25:46
also agree is ugly. I will admit though, that is one
25:48
of the funny things in this movie that I do think is funny.
25:52
Like when you cut to him winning the trophy for like best
25:54
showing, it's pretty good I. Think it's really gross that
25:58
they poured the chili on the top of the trophy.
26:01
Yeah, it is really. Gross.
26:02
Yeah. And.
26:03
Then they find like a bone, like a finger or something in one of
26:06
them too. It's nasty.
26:09
OK, absurd. I got several.
26:12
Let's roll. So the first one is the
26:15
Leatherface does a little dance and he looks like one of those
26:18
little solar powered hula figures every time he dances.
26:21
Yeah, because he's like. That's like the iconic thing.
26:26
It started in this movie. Yeah, it just, that's all I can
26:29
see every single time. So we've got that.
26:32
We've got Stretch keeping L GS face on until he dies.
26:38
Like like they're talking and they're yeah, and they're
26:43
interacting the whole time. And then after he dashes like I
26:47
guess I should take off his face and like it back.
26:49
It's like now it's. Disrespectful.
26:51
Yeah. It was cool before.
26:53
Yeah, it was. It was kind of funny for him to
26:56
see his own face, so I'm sure it comforted him in his final
26:59
moments. And then finally is, oh God,
27:04
what is his fucking name? The cook Dead Drayton when he's
27:09
driving back to their like homestead and he's got the radio
27:15
on in the RV, but it's literally like a box radio.
27:20
It's not the RV's radio. Yeah, I didn't even catch.
27:23
Yeah. So those are my absurd several,
27:28
as you can see. OK, I one of them ones that I
27:33
had was in right choosing to fight fire with fire in the way
27:36
that he did. Like he was like OK, chainsaw
27:40
massacres. Go to the chainsaw store, get 3
27:42
chainsaws. That'll beat their one chainsaw
27:45
surely? I like that he put them on his
27:47
little like holster instead of like blitz.
27:50
I like it, too. Yeah, it's a cool setup.
27:52
And I love that scene of him just going out there and just
27:55
going at this tree while the store owner is just like
27:59
laughing maniacally to the side over there.
28:02
It's kind of weird. It's a little strange.
28:04
Dude, if you were the store owner and you saw that guy doing
28:07
that, he had a chance on his hands.
28:10
I wouldn't do anything to provoke him.
28:12
No, Fuck no. But would I laugh?
28:14
Would I think it's funny? Would I be like, into it?
28:18
He seemed into it. Maybe he seemed really into it.
28:22
I could see you having that reaction.
28:24
No, I'm not gonna say I wouldn't.
28:26
It's definitely possible. OK, so let's go on and raid it.
28:32
I think this is, it's a really solid follow up.
28:34
I think it's a lot of fun. I think it changes up the tone.
28:38
You know, despite my bads, I think overall it's a really good
28:41
sequel and I think I'm gonna give it a 7.
28:44
OK, I'm right there with you. In terms of like, I think it's a
28:48
good sequel. It's a good follow up it.
28:54
Yeah, I like this one. I'd give it an 8.
28:57
OK. I like the introduction of some
28:58
of the characters they have like chopped up.
29:01
All right, So we've got a 7.5 out of 10 as our starting
29:04
average. All righty, so let's get on into
29:07
this thing. All right, we start off with a
29:09
recap of Part 1. Sally did survive, and she told
29:14
her story before she went into a catatonia.
29:17
No evidence was ever found, but in the past thirteen years,
29:19
reports of chainsaw incidents have continued to come in
29:22
throughout Texas. Yeah, they can never locate the
29:24
family and they deemed everything fake.
29:28
Which is wild considering the four other people that she was
29:32
with are gone. Yeah.
29:34
I mean, people died, yeah. And people are saying.
29:38
People are talking and people are dying.
29:40
There's people with chainsaw deaths that the cops are finding
29:45
all right, so we cut to some hooligans.
29:48
Yes, these are high school seniors.
29:50
They're driving to big game. Yeah, it's Oklahoma versus
29:54
Texas. Big, big rivalry.
29:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom sounder what that's what
30:00
dude, it's one of there's a clip of that's what they that's the
30:05
Oklahoma. What did you?
30:07
Say boomer sooner, OK. Yeah, I just heard sounds.
30:11
Because like King of the Hill, Boomhauer talks.
30:16
That is how a lot of people, they actually talk.
30:18
And there was a video of a bunch of Ohio, Oklahoma fans.
30:24
People are getting their reaction to the game and there
30:27
we go, Boomhauer. You know, you can't hear a
30:29
single word that they're saying, but like people had to like
30:32
break it down and comments like they're saying boomer sooner.
30:34
Wow. That's the thing, yeah.
30:36
It's a big thing. OK.
30:38
Yeah. Anyways, I like the guy's
30:39
glasses. He's got like those, like
30:41
holographic glasses. I don't know.
30:44
Those always stood out to me for some reason.
30:46
But they're just like shooting signs with their guns and stuff
30:48
like that. They are drunk little rascals,
30:51
which is bad. Don't drink and drive.
30:54
Do not. And yeah, like you said, they're
30:57
shooting mailboxes and they decide they're gonna call into
30:59
stretch at Red River Rock and they refuse to make a request,
31:02
but they also refuse to hang up. And so they're just being
31:05
menaces. They're being menaces, yeah, and
31:07
there's a truck coming and they decide they're gonna play
31:10
chicken. Also, I would like to point out
31:12
that the truck does a little, yeah, it's like it's a short
31:16
one, but it's a very definitive. I think it's fitting that that
31:19
family has an Olga truck. Yeah, I mean, they're obviously
31:22
if anybody's going to have an Olga horn in their truck, it's
31:26
going to be the Sawyers. Yeah, the truck.
31:30
Yeah, my God, you're about to laugh at me.
31:35
But I just realized that Sawyer is felt with Saw.
31:39
I've never noticed that you think that's intentional.
31:42
Yeah. Were they?
31:45
Was Sawyer ever mentioned in the first movie?
31:48
I don't think so. I don't think it was either.
31:50
OK, that fits with this here. That we didn't even get first
31:52
names for the people in the first movie.
31:56
Yeah, you're right, We didn't. Sawyer.
31:59
Yeah, you got Sawyer, we got fucking Drayton, we got Bubba.
32:03
Toby Hoover said. It's a fucking joke, you guys.
32:07
Nubbins Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got some good people here.
32:11
All right, so it is now sundown and.
32:14
They call back again. Yeah, it's 8:11 PM and they are
32:19
still on the phone with Stretch. She's trying to hang up on them
32:22
but they can't for whatever reason.
32:24
I don't know why they are unable to hang up a call.
32:27
Yeah, I don't know what's happening.
32:28
She's trying to get LG to handle it on his end of things.
32:32
The truck is back and it's messing with them while they're
32:35
on a bridge. And this is where I wrote that
32:38
Grandpa was being held up with a chainsaw.
32:39
Clearly this is Nubbins now that we know and Stretch and LG hear
32:45
what is happening and they try to get them to hang out this
32:48
time because they want to be able to call the cops because
32:50
it's clearly something bad is happening.
32:52
But instead they just hear a miniature massacre.
32:55
This is, I believe, the one scene with Tom Morguez.
33:00
My other face, yes. And this is the scene that
33:02
Child's Play 20/19 showed as happening near the end of the
33:06
movie. Yeah.
33:06
Which is why we were like, no iconically opening scene.
33:10
Yeah, it's a really good one too.
33:12
I love this kill. I love cuz he just chainsaws
33:15
right through the hood of the car and it like it saws the
33:18
guy's head naff. Yeah, it like right, Yeah, right
33:21
through. It is really, really well done.
33:23
And then obviously the car is gonna crash after that.
33:25
Yeah, so the Rangers are investigating the crash and we
33:29
got in right there He is in the Sparrow.
33:32
He's just kidding to the kids in Part 1 there.
33:36
He's saying, you know, Dallas is always busy for this game every
33:39
year and and right wants any and all information he can get about
33:45
this crash. And the Rangers are like kind of
33:48
making fun of him. And they're like, clearly this
33:50
is just like drunk kids, like being stupid.
33:53
And he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure this kid just cut
33:56
his own head open for fun. Yeah, you don't.
33:58
And that shit doesn't just happen from a wreck, that kind
34:01
of wreck at least. Yeah, you would see more
34:02
evidence of something that would slice the head down like they
34:04
would. Have they would have like close
34:06
lines something it would. Have happened to the buddy also,
34:08
yes. Yep.
34:10
So Yep, they kind of just laugh him off, but then he puts his
34:13
foot down and he like asks for them to keep them in the loop.
34:17
Of everything. And he puts a call on the paper,
34:19
which search sees, and she responds to his call for
34:22
witnesses. And she's like, I got this tape.
34:25
It's definitely sounds like what was happening when those kids
34:28
died. I think you need to listen to
34:30
it. I want to be a part of it.
34:33
And, you know, maybe we can play it on air and get people to
34:36
respond if they have any more information or we can even draw
34:39
out the killers that way. It's like, I want to do
34:42
something real. I want to be more than just like
34:45
a schlocky radio DJ. And then Enright, who said he
34:48
wants any and all witnesses to come forward, said get the fuck
34:51
out of my hotel room. No, not this one though.
34:55
Nah, Nah. Yeah, I have to go back out
34:59
there with Toby Hooper. Who's out there, Wally gagging
35:01
around in the hallways. He has a little cameo.
35:04
Yeah, yeah, he's, he's a junk college kid ready for the game.
35:09
So it's the Texas Oklahoma chili cooked off Drayton Sawyer.
35:14
The cook wins the whole thing and they award him with the
35:17
trophy and they put chili in it. And it's kind of upsetting,
35:20
Yeah, he said. That his his trick, his secret
35:24
to a word running chili is that you can't skimp on the meat.
35:28
Too many people these days, they skimp on the meat.
35:30
The meat is the key. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:33
And LG and Stretch are covering it and I just like this moment
35:37
cuz LG built Stretch a house made of fries.
35:39
Yes. I like their, I like their
35:43
relationship that they have. It's it.
35:48
It feels real. Yeah, it really does.
35:51
They have good chemistry. There feels like that's the type
35:52
of stupid shit I could see, like do it for one of my friends and
35:55
like, I built you a fry house. Yeah.
35:58
So we now see Enright. He has arrived at Cut, right.
36:02
It's a chainsaw shop and he goes in there and he weighs down $700
36:08
in cash on a stump and then he goes.
36:11
Over. That's how you know he means
36:13
business. He.
36:14
Is talking dude. OK, that's $700 in 80s money.
36:19
I feel like $700 in 2025 money could buy us more than three
36:24
chainsaws. OK, I really do feel like that.
36:28
Inflation calculator. All right, let's let's find this
36:32
out here. We're doing math on air, people.
36:35
We can even choose the month. All right, so 1986, this is
36:40
August. Yeah, I was gonna say it would
36:41
be August or September. Yep, and this ain't February no
36:44
more. This is March y'all.
36:47
It's March when we're recording it, guys, yeah.
36:49
Seven, that's right. No data available for months.
36:53
I guess we got to go to February since that's the first complete
36:56
month. That'd be 2000, just over $2000.
37:00
All right, 2300 or $2000 and 30 shit $2036.07.
37:07
I'm gonna open up my Lowe's app and I'm gonna type in chainsaws
37:10
and I'm gonna tell you the price of the first 3 chainsaws I see.
37:13
Chainsaw technology has advanced.
37:15
It's quite a bit. Jesse.
37:16
I feel like you can get maybe 3 chainsaws for 2000 bucks. 200
37:20
dollars 479 dollars $189. OK, you can.
37:26
We can get several more. But you know what?
37:28
He went with quality over quantity.
37:31
He could have charged in there with 10 different chainsaws, but
37:34
he wanted to get three. Really good.
37:35
Chainsaws, yeah, he got different lengths too.
37:37
Like he was prepared. He got the one that he could jab
37:40
at from a distance and then he got a short like pairing
37:44
chainsaw. I I like it because he really
37:47
does just go in there and test them out like with all the.
37:49
Motions and the owner's like, do you want to miss the
37:53
functionality? And he goes out and I don't feel
37:56
like this is how you're supposed to use a chainsaw.
37:59
He already bought him at that point, yeah.
38:02
He's just whacking it against the law.
38:05
Also, why do they have gas in them?
38:08
That's a good idea. How?
38:10
Like how high do you get walking into this store?
38:13
Oh God. It's such a tiny and clustering.
38:15
I think he walked in there wanting to have a reasonable
38:18
normal transaction, but he got high and he's like, oh.
38:23
You started attacking the log you.
38:24
Just like 1 moment you walk into the store and next moment you're
38:27
arrested because you blacked out and chainsawed 5 dead trees.
38:31
Yeah, OK. That's why do people frequently
38:33
get arrested for chainsawing dead trees.
38:35
They. Should.
38:37
OK, yeah. And if you disagree with that, I
38:40
speak for the trees. Yeah, exactly.
38:42
Yeah. Come on, people.
38:44
All right. So, yeah, Stretch finds in right
38:48
outside the studio. He was out there chilling,
38:50
waiting for her. And then she's she's like, oh, I
38:54
thought you didn't want to do the thing.
38:57
You didn't want to play the tape.
38:58
And then he's like, I need you. Yeah, he's like I, I I came to
39:02
my senses after blacking out. I woke up and an epiphany.
39:06
Yeah, I near death experience will do that to you.
39:10
So just play the tape on air and we're gonna see if we can draw
39:13
these people out. And she's like, I don't know
39:15
that the FCC will let me do that.
39:18
Yeah, he's like, well, the killers are in this area, OK,
39:21
Based off of all the evidence where the things have happened,
39:24
I've got it like in a triangle. They are here somewhere, so play
39:28
the tape. Yeah.
39:29
And so he's, you know, that's what they're going to run with.
39:33
So she plays it as a request. That's how she kind of works
39:36
around it. And I think that's interesting.
39:37
And she says she's playing at the top of each hour for a lefty
39:41
because he said that's his his nickname, what she can call him.
39:46
Yeah, and then we see Drayton or the cook.
39:49
He is driving home with this trophy and he gets a call.
39:53
Surprised he has a car phone, doesn't seem like the type.
39:56
Yeah, I mean, he's got the radio is just a boom box.
40:01
Yeah, so. But it's, I assume Chop Top, who
40:05
has called and told him that, hey, they're playing the
40:10
recording of that on the air right now.
40:12
So he tunes on and he ears it and he just swerves off the road
40:16
into like somewhere to stop and collect the stats.
40:20
It's midnight, which means it's time for Stretch to sign off.
40:24
LG says that there have been a lot of angry callers about the
40:27
tape. And she says, you know what,
40:29
People complain about all the requests we play on a daily
40:31
basis. So I mean, are we really going
40:34
to specifically talk about this one?
40:37
And he's like, how about we go get some food?
40:38
And she's like, I got to wait for Lefty.
40:40
And he was like, all right, well, I'm going to go get some
40:42
coffee. She gets a call with no talking,
40:47
which is always creepy. Somehow able to hang up.
40:51
Yeah, yes. Wasn't able to figure that one
40:54
out before. Yeah, I can figure out how to
40:55
hang up before she can hang up now and then she hears some
40:58
banging around in the office. And so she goes looking around
41:02
and she finds someone who is who's ready to request to buy
41:06
some airtime. That's what he wants to do.
41:08
Man this is such a good reveal. This is a good introduction for
41:10
a character. Chop top is great.
41:12
Yeah, and he's like, yeah, me and Bubba, we listen to you
41:15
every night. You're my.
41:16
Favorite. He's like, music is my life,
41:19
yeah. The peace sign he's got the
41:20
little I, I think it's like a coat hanger.
41:22
Yeah, it's a coat hanger that he keeps like lighting with his
41:26
lighter and scratching his head with.
41:29
Yeah, he's like peeling off a little bits of skin so he can
41:31
see it. Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.
41:34
And he's like, boy, I sure would love a tour.
41:37
And she's like, you want a tour? You want a tour?
41:39
OK, we'll do a real quick tour. And inside the exit.
41:42
And she's like, this is foam fax machine lamp exit sign.
41:46
Yeah. EXIT.
41:50
MOON that spells exit. I just like this interaction
41:56
between them here. And then she's like, all right,
41:58
goodbye, goodbye. She's like bye, and he's like
42:03
bye and he goes. I really like what Lefties
42:06
request earlier. That was that was real nice.
42:09
That was musical. It was fascinating.
42:13
And then that's when Leatherface burst out of the record.
42:17
He hits chop top. Knocks his wig off.
42:19
Knocks his wig off, dents his plate.
42:21
Yep. As Stretch runs and she locks
42:22
herself in a room and she's freaking out and she's just
42:27
repeating what left. She told her earlier that they
42:28
live on fear. They live on fear and she is
42:30
trying to come up with a plan. The soft stalls as Leatherface
42:36
is trying to get in the room and then we see LG has come back
42:39
with his coffee and he sees chop top down there.
42:43
Just total mayhem in the office. Things are scattered about
42:46
broken. Favorite moment in the entire
42:48
movie, maybe even the entire series.
42:50
Just chop top looking at he's like, who the fuck are you?
42:54
Lick my plate, you dog Dick. I'm sorry.
42:58
I got it quoted every single time.
42:59
It's one of the best things. It's so fucking funny and the
43:04
letter face comes in. Here's the noise of LG there.
43:07
And then they both just attack him.
43:08
They. Yeah, they.
43:09
Take a hammer and they start bludgeoning him.
43:11
And you know what? This is another difference
43:13
between this movie and the last one.
43:14
This one gets gory. Yeah, it is gory.
43:17
We see like a puddle of blood underneath his head here.
43:20
You don't bring on Savini and not show the gore.
43:22
No, you do not. So Leatherface goes back to try
43:28
and get into the room that stretches in and he gives up on
43:31
trying to unlock the door and. He goes around the side and saws
43:35
through the door, which the wall, which is really smart.
43:38
But also, when movies and shows like, burst through a door or a
43:42
wall like that, they need to not have the camera close up on it
43:45
because you can always tell that it's yeah, yeah, you.
43:47
Can always see it's yeah, it's funny.
43:51
And he backs her into a corner. She gets into this like tub of
43:55
ice and beard and she is like cornered and then he.
43:59
I may have the chainsaw as PP metaphor.
44:02
Yep. He is just kind of like rubbing
44:04
it up against around her crotch area and it's a little
44:07
uncomfortable. Yeah.
44:08
And I think he actually like, ejaculates.
44:11
Yeah, I'm pretty. I think he gets mad that he
44:13
comes. I will say, though, I think
44:15
there's something so, like, vulnerable about Stretch in this
44:22
moment where she is like, are you mad at me?
44:25
Yeah. Like something about the way she
44:27
like, screams that every time gets to me.
44:30
Yeah, I mean, it's like, what the fuck are you?
44:32
Why are you doing this? I mean she was playing a clip of
44:35
them killing people so they're probably mad.
44:40
And so he he's mad about his own semen and he destroys the room
44:45
but leaves stretch alone and he comes out and chop top says you
44:48
get her, Bubba. He nods and he's like, right,
44:50
cool. Now nobody knows.
44:53
So stretch is a word that they're getting away.
44:56
But she has no way to like fall after.
44:58
I mean, she does have a way to fall after she's got her Jeep,
44:59
but she's waiting for lefty because he is late.
45:02
He is way, way late. So eventually she ends up
45:05
deciding that she's just going to follow him.
45:08
I yeah every time we have watched this, every single
45:11
fucking time I have missed that they are in like a defunct
45:14
amusement park. I've always just thought that
45:17
they had a really weird like Disney esque not on mountain
45:23
doom type of. It's layer, yeah.
45:26
I, I kind of forgot about that myself and then see.
45:29
Not on Bald Mountain, Jesus. Yeah, I.
45:32
Wouldn't we can't We can't record 3 episodes in a row.
45:35
Again, this is bad for my brain. Anyway, yeah, it explains how
45:38
they have such like a weird layer.
45:40
Yeah, it's a nice setting, I think.
45:41
I think I like that they Shaq up here.
45:44
Yes, I am into it. I'm just very glad that now I
45:48
have an explanation because I just thought somehow they found
45:51
a mountain. I wouldn't put it, I wouldn't
45:54
put it past this movie to do something like that.
45:56
Yeah. So she follows them and they
45:58
arrive there. They somehow do not notice that
46:01
this person is right behind them, headlights on and all.
46:04
I don't think they're especially concerned.
46:06
I don't. Think they are either, yeah.
46:08
They Yeah. So she gets out and she is
46:12
trying to like follow them on foot, but then another car comes
46:15
after her and it's chasing her and so she's running around and
46:19
gets into this little like awning area and it's Lefty.
46:23
I think it's so funny that she is freaking out the entire time
46:25
when it's so obviously lefty. Like you can see him through the
46:28
windshield so clearly. Yeah.
46:30
He's a big old cowboy hat. He's like, sorry, I had to use
46:32
you for bait, which first of all, we knew you were using her
46:35
as bait, but like, why couldn't you be at this?
46:38
Yeah, you could have just been camping out.
46:40
Yeah, like, and right. Like, I don't think he deserved
46:44
to get made fun of in the newspaper.
46:46
And I think he was unnecessarily mean to her at the beginning,
46:50
but he's also being unnecessarily mean to her now.
46:52
He is, yeah. So he is there.
46:55
He's armed with his three chainsaws and he charges in.
46:58
Oh, and also, lefty or not, Lefty Stretch has fallen through
47:02
a trap. Yes.
47:05
So yeah, he's got his chainsaws and holsters on him, but in the
47:09
ammo belt instead of having bullets, he's got spare chains,
47:13
really. And I love that detail.
47:15
That is cool. So fucking campy and stupid and
47:18
I love it. Yeah, yeah, I think, I think
47:21
he's probably one of the the cooler characters in the entire
47:25
series. Yeah, no, he's kind of a piece
47:27
of shit in some ways, but he's also really awesome in other
47:31
ways. So this just makes up for you.
47:32
He's a. Complicated man.
47:34
Yeah, yeah, he, he's armed up. I like it.
47:37
So he is charging him now and he is mad.
47:41
He's very mad. Yeah, he is just tearing down
47:44
the whole thing. He wants to take them all.
47:45
Down he sees the wall bleeding. That's true.
47:47
Which is a creepy thing to do, especially in something that's
47:50
like a non paranormal normal movie.
47:52
So you see this bleeding wall and like when he kind of like
47:54
cuts it open, like guts just fall out and it's gross.
47:59
I forgot about that, you're right.
48:00
And so he decides I'm going to bring the building down once
48:04
again. Fuck Stretch, am I right?
48:06
Like he's in this building. To be fair he's also saying fuck
48:09
me also because I mean there's no way he's going to survive
48:12
this whole thing collapsing. And maybe he hasn't come down
48:14
from his gasoline, huh? I think he is still high.
48:17
You know, you don't act like this if you're not a little bit
48:20
high. He's either high or probably
48:22
both. Probably both.
48:23
Yeah. All right.
48:24
So yeah, he starts attacking support memes with his
48:26
chainsaws, which somehow the Sawyers do not hear.
48:29
Yeah, maybe they're just. Maybe they're hearing's just
48:31
fucked. It's it's a pretty deep system.
48:35
Yeah, I, I think he's far out at the moment.
48:38
I think once the movie goes on, it gets a little bit absurd that
48:41
they can't hear it. Stress wakes up and she hears
48:45
the sawyer's feuding, as per usual.
48:48
That's just how they talk to each other.
48:49
It's. Just the cook chewing out the
48:51
boys. You know how it be.
48:53
And she is surrounded by bodies and she looks over and she sees
49:00
leather faces prepping LG to cook, thighs stripping his skin.
49:07
And she tries to back away and she knocks over some tools.
49:10
So a leather face comes over and obviously he finds her.
49:12
And she is like, hey, can you help me?
49:15
Can you help me get out? And he's like, he nods.
49:20
And then he picks her up and puts LG safe on her.
49:24
And then a hat. And then he dances with her.
49:27
Yeah, it's, you know, I think he, you know, he's got his
49:30
girlfriend in his mind here and it's a little bit weird.
49:34
Yeah, And then the ceiling starts crumbling and he's like
49:37
love language. Yeah.
49:38
He's like, uh oh, gotta go deal with that.
49:39
I'm gonna tie you up here real quick.
49:41
No big deal. If it collapses, we die in our
49:44
love. It's fine.
49:44
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's all good.
49:47
So he runs to go check on it. And that's when I wrote, oh,
49:51
fuck. LG is alive.
49:53
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a little bit shocking.
49:58
I can't believe he has no face and she doesn't even recognize
50:04
that it's LG. Yeah.
50:07
Until she sees his tattoo. Yeah, sees his tattoo and he
50:10
calls it darling. Yeah.
50:12
And I think it's kind of shitty she couldn't recognize him with
50:16
no face, but he recognized her with his face.
50:19
Yeah, it is kind of weird, right?
50:20
Yeah. It's a very one sided
50:22
relationship it's starting to feel like.
50:24
Yeah, and he gets up, he gets like a little knife or a blade
50:28
or something and cuts off her. Like her, the rope that's
50:31
holding her. Yeah.
50:32
And then he falls back on the bed and dies, and she gently
50:36
places his face. Face and hat.
50:38
Yeah, now that he's dead, he deserves.
50:41
It. Yeah, yeah.
50:42
So the cook is blaming Bubba for the beams collapse in which you
50:46
know. Yeah, he's like, dude, you're
50:48
always swinging around that chainsaw.
50:49
This was bound to happen. Dude like he's exposed.
50:52
You so many times you got to chill.
50:54
It's like in the 1st place it's like, OK fine, I chainsawed the
50:56
door one time and now I'm responsible for everything.
50:59
It's you with Talia when she gets real excited with her toys,
51:03
and she almost always knocks over your Coke.
51:06
Yeah, and you're like Coca-Cola. Did you really?
51:17
They're very different kinds of messes that you have to clean
51:19
out. OK, OK.
51:24
Yeah, It's not cocaine, people. It's Coca-Cola.
51:28
The Bever. So yeah, it's it's a similar
51:33
kind of energy. Yeah, it is.
51:35
Yeah. So the beams are like the
51:39
damage, they're starting to notice that there's like some
51:41
shaking going on. They sick leather on Leatherface
51:45
on them. So they're like, OK, go
51:46
investigate. Go figure out what the hell is
51:48
happening out here. Drain's also really mad because
51:51
apparently they've had some bad meat lately, so that's a whole
51:56
other thing that they have going on.
51:57
Stretch is trying to run out and she's running between tunnels
52:00
and they spot her, and so that's when Leatherface is told to go
52:06
follow her. I like.
52:07
The reaction to that? And like, what the hell was
52:09
that? They're like that felt genuine,
52:12
was like and they're in the middle of they're like family
52:14
squabble, blaming each other for the house falling down.
52:16
And then they see just like a person run through and they're
52:19
like, what? And then this is where we see
52:22
Lefty. He's like wandering around, and
52:25
for some reason the Sawyers have brought Franklin skeleton and
52:30
wheelchair with the like flashlight still in his little
52:34
delete old hand. I don't.
52:35
Think they ate them. I think they just killed him for
52:38
sport. Yeah, I would think.
52:41
I think Bubba killed him because it was convenient for him as he
52:45
was like chasing the kids. He was scary.
52:46
Yeah. He was left alone.
52:47
Yeah, it was in the. Middle of the night.
52:49
It was scary. He's protecting his own.
52:50
Yeah, but I think it's really funny that like, he sees that
52:54
and he's in me like Franklin, but the next shot we see
52:59
somebody else in a wheelchair. It could have been anybody.
53:04
Maybe that was their heirloom flashlight in Franklin's hand.
53:08
It. Could have been, it could have
53:09
been, you know, who knows? It says like S harvesty on it
53:15
so. Yeah, yeah.
53:16
Instead of, you know, for them, it's not the Sauce family, the
53:19
widest family. Yeah.
53:20
And it has like a little engraving on there too.
53:22
Yeah, cuz it's like a battle of like dark versus light.
53:25
Oh. Yeah, there we go.
53:27
We're getting some meaning in this after all.
53:28
All right, right, so stretch season, right?
53:32
Chainsawing his way through the place and Weather Face manages
53:36
to catch up to her. Yeah, and she breaks up with
53:39
him. She was like, you know what?
53:41
It's not working out. Cuz like in right, like he was
53:44
right there on the other side and he chainsawed a part where
53:46
like it caused the collapse and it separated them.
53:50
So she's trapped there when her face catches up and yeah, they
53:54
have that interaction. The rest of the gang shows up.
53:57
They're like, go ahead, finish her, finish her.
54:00
And then that's when they realized that Bubba's got a
54:03
crush on Stretch. And then this is where the cook
54:06
says sex as well. Nobody knows but the saw.
54:10
The saw is family, Yeah. Yeah, this is a strange scene.
54:15
I don't know why I have in here sex spelled SC.
54:18
Oh, because that's. How SCE?
54:21
XX I'll tell you all about it. How does this family go on when
54:26
they're all obviously virgins? They had skex together.
54:33
They don't teach you all about Skex.
54:35
Talk about you and me. Let's talk about skecks, baby.
54:40
My God. Yeah, we're getting loopy here.
54:49
Have we been huffing gasoline fumes?
54:51
I think so. All right, so they order him to
54:56
finish her and he refuses. And then, yeah.
54:59
That's true. They knock her out and she wakes
55:01
up and she's tied up to a table. Again at the ending.
55:04
Of the 1st movie Grandpa joins again and then they say
55:07
grandpa's the best in the business so. 37 years old.
55:10
Yeah. And so they got to have him hit
55:14
her over the bucket and they didn't learn anything from Sally
55:18
because she's same shit. Yeah, it's the same shit.
55:21
And so obviously she ends up getting free.
55:23
I'd. Argue that the grandpa's better
55:25
this time. Yeah, it takes fewer trials, it
55:28
seems. And then they hear Lefty, he
55:32
comes out, he saws Drayton's butt a little bit.
55:37
You know, I think that's funny because he does that and then
55:40
like he later, he's like, you know what?
55:42
That fixed something. I don't have to go to the doctor
55:44
anymore. He free stretch who then is like
55:48
fighting chopped top and then lefty fights Leatherface.
55:54
I I like his intro too because like you can hear him in the
55:56
distance, like going, bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the
56:00
sheaves. And so he gets Leatherface in
56:05
the gut. Yeah, straight up, Yeah.
56:09
The cook is like under the table this whole time, and he's like,
56:11
all right, well, this is all fucked.
56:12
It's over with. He's like, where's the Nubbins?
56:14
He grabs the Nubbins and he Nubbins has a grenade on him.
56:19
Yeah, which OK, I guess. That tracks with what the
56:22
hitchhiker would have had. He probably had that grenade in
56:24
his bag the 1st. Movie.
56:26
How? Much more intense of the 1st
56:28
movie be if he pulled out a grenade instead of the knife.
56:31
Yeah, that would have been amazing, but he pulls the pin.
56:36
Stretch is climbing out of the like attraction or whatever it
56:40
is, and Chop top is following her and she gets to the very,
56:43
very top of this stair. Yeah, I don't, I don't know what
56:48
it is. And she finds Grandma, Grandma
56:52
skeleton is up there with a chainsaw and chop top comes in
56:56
and he is like threatening her. And he like does like small
56:59
shallow cuts to his neck just to be like, I'm unhinged and I'm
57:02
fine with taking you out with me.
57:04
And then stretch takes the chainsaw from Grandma.
57:06
And he's like for you now. He's like you leave Grandma
57:08
alone. Apparently that kills her.
57:10
Like I think grandma was alive still technically by their
57:13
standards. She was cobwebbed.
57:15
But he says you killed her right here.
57:18
I don't know, like the other dudes, 137 years old and he's
57:21
someone I think grandma might be alive.
57:25
Not anymore, obviously. Yeah, so she ends up cutting him
57:29
and he falls out of The Cave entrance.
57:31
And then she kind of mirroring the ending of the first one.
57:34
She's out on the edge and she's screaming and swinging around
57:37
with the chainsaw, and then there's an explosion.
57:40
Yeah, yeah. And then that's where the movie
57:43
ends right there. You know, I they I feel like the
57:47
ending was still really good, like when things start, like
57:50
when in right showed up. But I did have that wall there
57:57
again. But I'm going to keep this at
57:59
Nate. I still think it's a really good
58:01
sequel. It's great.
58:02
I will bump mine up to 7.5 and I'll.
58:07
I'll say I feel like the humor actually did weigh in a little
58:09
bit more than I remembered because I find myself laughing
58:12
at some parts talking about it. Yeah, I think so.
58:16
I think that made the right call cutting scenes, because I think
58:19
if you added anything else to this, this movie would be just a
58:21
soup of nonsense. If you're gonna cut anything,
58:23
cut the dinner scene. Yeah, cut that down.
58:26
That's the main thing is I wish the ending was different.
58:28
Yeah, just like, just cut the dinner.
58:30
Scene Yeah, we do not need the dinner scene.
58:32
Just entirely cut that part. Yeah.
58:34
Just have Inrite show up and then that's.
58:36
Yeah, Inrite shows up. They're running through the
58:38
tunnels. They eventually make their way
58:39
like that's all we needed. Yeah, so and then you didn't
58:43
even have to have the grenade like the thing just collapses
58:46
because then, right, it's been cutting this 4 beams.
58:48
Yeah, it all makes sense. Yeah.
58:50
And that's our change right there.
58:50
I guess, yeah. Yeah, OK, cool.
58:53
All right. Who did you relate to?
58:57
No, we got to do Italia's thing. Yeah.
58:59
What's how you think of this? Well, Talia was sleepy, but then
59:04
she was also showing her tummy, and then at the end she built a
59:06
wall. I think she also didn't like she
59:08
was like, we've seen the ending of this before.
59:11
Like I don't want any of this. I think Talia, All in all, I
59:16
think she had a good time up until the end.
59:18
So 2 thirds 6 1/2 out of 10. OK, that's not bad.
59:24
Yeah, yeah, Zoe's ultimate warrior.
59:29
All right, we agreed we're not gonna do Texas.
59:31
Or why don't we keep going and calling Texas Chainsaw?
59:34
We're not gonna do Weather Face. I think, I think she kind of
59:42
respected the wait and write attacked that log.
59:45
That's what I'm thinking too, honestly.
59:47
Yeah, that's her on the weed ball that I.
59:50
Have out there. That's how she goes for that.
59:52
Yeah, we've got a little cabinet ball.
59:54
Yeah, it's like on its own little holder, and it gets them
59:58
real riled up. Uh huh.
59:59
Yeah. OK.
1:00:02
All right. Now who's you relate to?
1:00:04
Oh boy, I guess, I guess I relate to LG just building fry
1:00:11
houses and going and getting coffee for people.
1:00:15
Yeah OK. Not knowing how to hang up
1:00:18
phones, that's. Me.
1:00:19
That's just who I be. That's just who I am.
1:00:21
Fry houses and get coffee. From Yeah, yeah.
1:00:25
That's why we love you. Yeah, that's that's what makes
1:00:28
me a good friend and life partner.
1:00:30
That's. True, that's true.
1:00:31
This is why I married you. Yes.
1:00:34
All right, let's see, who did I relate to?
1:00:42
Come. On you've had a whole extra week
1:00:49
to think about this. I haven't really.
1:00:51
It's not like I had extra time compared to you.
1:00:55
I don't know, there's some weird people in this.
1:00:58
I'll go with the the fucking guy at the beginning wearing the
1:01:01
glasses because I like those glasses.
1:01:04
I think I had that pair of glasses whenever I was a kid.
1:01:07
I I find it fascinating that you had a pair of glasses like that
1:01:11
and when I said I was going to get you ye glasses, you're like,
1:01:13
but you wouldn't be able to see out of that.
1:01:15
Obviously it's a similar. Jesse, I was fucking 8 whenever
1:01:19
I had those glasses. Not the age of today, 32 for
1:01:26
those wondering. I'm.
1:01:28
Gone OK. Yeah, OK.
1:01:30
We're getting we, we've been recording too long.
1:01:32
We've first time we've done like a three for OK in a.
1:01:36
Long time. Yeah.
1:01:37
So we don't do dream sequels with our franchises?
1:01:39
No. But for Texas Chainsaw, we are
1:01:42
coming up with nicknames to help me remember which one's which.
1:01:46
Uh huh. So I guess this one hmm what's
1:01:54
the thing that stands out most of you?
1:01:56
Cuz this is to help. You this is the chop top.
1:01:58
One chop top. Yeah.
1:02:00
So yeah, Texas Chainsaw 2 chop tops ascent.
1:02:08
Is ascent. Yeah, OK, sure.
1:02:11
OK, chop. Tops or the rise and fall of
1:02:14
chop top? That sounds epic.
1:02:16
There we go that that is an epic.
1:02:17
Right there, the rise. And Fall of Chop Top A Texas
1:02:20
Chainsaw Massacre story. All right tagline.
1:02:25
I like your. The solo is the law.
1:02:28
I really do like that, especially with him being like a
1:02:31
like a, is he a Texas stranger? I don't.
1:02:34
Think so. I don't know what his.
1:02:36
Stranger. Maybe he used to be, but not
1:02:39
now. Well, yeah, OK, Either way, I
1:02:41
think that's a really good one. All right, so I guess it's time
1:02:45
to do reviews. Yeah, it is.
1:02:46
Okie, Dokie. An extra week for people to send
1:02:49
shit in. Yeah, and we actually did get an
1:02:51
extra 1 in that time, so that worked out.
1:02:55
So I pulled up a review from IMDb.
1:02:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot.
1:02:59
We have to do that part first. It is a three out of 10.
1:03:02
It's titled I'm starting think the genius of the first one was
1:03:06
an anomaly for Hooper. OK.
1:03:10
I really wanted to get into this.
1:03:12
I love crazy, I love the original, I love funny horror, I
1:03:15
love Dennis Hoppery, yet I just couldn't find my way into this.
1:03:19
I guess it's supposed to be a comedy, but I mostly just found
1:03:22
it obnoxious. I like some of the disgusting
1:03:24
visuals, and there were certainly some funny lines.
1:03:27
However, in the end, it is just too much of the bright chaos of
1:03:31
Canon productions and not enough of the dark insanity of the
1:03:34
original. And you know what?
1:03:36
I felt like that was like a fitting review right there
1:03:38
because I I can see that being disappointing for.
1:03:41
People, you know, I did say one of the things I disliked was
1:03:44
that it didn't feel like it was telling a story, like it didn't
1:03:47
have a deeper meaning. Yeah.
1:03:49
And same like I didn't have the grittiness of the first one with
1:03:52
one of my things for it too. But yeah, I mean it, it leaned
1:03:56
too much into the comedy direction for a lot of people
1:03:59
and I think that's what's off putting about this one.
1:04:01
OK, and I've heard people mention Canon films before.
1:04:04
Like I think I heard Chad and Joe talking about them.
1:04:08
I'm not familiar with that type of movie, so I don't know if
1:04:11
this is like the type of film they usually pump out where it's
1:04:16
weird bananas type shit. I'm into that.
1:04:20
But Texas Chainsaw was a weird one for it to go in that
1:04:22
direction. Yeah, I'll agree with that.
1:04:26
OK, all right, let's go to the listener reviews on Instagram.
1:04:32
Kubesafe says chop top is top tier.
1:04:36
That's a mouthful, but also correct.
1:04:38
It is and it is correct. Yeah.
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Chop Top is one of the best characters in the series.
1:04:42
I love that guy. And the final review it's Chad.
1:04:48
Chad says. Dude, I just rewatched Texas
1:04:52
Chainsaw Massacre 2 and holy shit is that movie wow.
1:04:54
Seems like Rob Zombie got its own of his aesthetic for from
1:04:57
this flick. Intense, abrasive and bonkers.
1:05:00
I can see if folks don't dig this film, but I love it and it
1:05:03
does what I want a sequel to do. Pays homage to what came before,
1:05:06
doing its own thing. I do wonder what Dennis Hopper's
1:05:10
cocaine budget was on this. 8.5 out of 10.
1:05:14
Chad, he didn't need cocaine. He had gasoline fumes.
1:05:18
Yeah, and I I would have always packed them as being drunk
1:05:21
during this movie. Yeah, I just, I don't know.
1:05:25
I do think it's fun. I do think it's a fun sequel.
1:05:27
I do think it's a little bit different from the first one,
1:05:31
but I'm not necessarily opposed to that.
1:05:34
It's just it's a shift which if you don't know is coming, can be
1:05:38
abrupt. But when you do know, then you
1:05:40
can just enjoy it for what it is.
1:05:42
It's just one of those ones where the first one was so good,
1:05:44
it had a lot to live up to. Yeah.
1:05:47
So if it's another horror movie like a Friday the 13th that went
1:05:51
in this direction, that'd be a little bit more forgiving
1:05:55
because Friday 13th wasn't like, as big, you know what I mean?
1:05:59
Yeah, I mean, it was big, but like, it didn't.
1:06:02
I don't know. It wasn't as like, serious, you
1:06:04
know what I mean? The first one felt serious to
1:06:06
me. Yes, yes, OK.
1:06:09
All right, that's it for that. So that means that's it for this
1:06:12
week's episode. Next week I don't have a wear to
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watch for you yet because it's still the end of March and stuff
1:06:19
rolls over at the beginning of the month, but reduce are
1:06:22
already real. Yeah, that that was a request
1:06:24
that we received and we are more than happy to oblige.
1:06:28
Yeah, it's one we've been wanting to do for a while
1:06:30
anyway. And it's just been a matter of
1:06:31
like, figuring out where to fit it into the schedule and because
1:06:34
we had to shift stuff around and we both love that movie.
1:06:38
It just it felt like the right time.
1:06:39
Yeah, yeah, I'm into it. So if you can watch it,
1:06:43
definitely check it out. If you haven't seen it before,
1:06:45
it's a remake of the original. Yes, it's a remake of The House
1:06:49
on Sorority Row. Yeah, yeah.
1:06:52
But it's a good time. Yeah, so check it out.
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We're excited to talk about it. In the meantime, we would like
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Production on the movie started after a successful theatrical
1:09:12
with the theater. Well, obviously production
1:09:16
started after a successful theatrical run in 1981 for the
1:09:20
original Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
1:09:23
Thank you. I I cut the original part, but
1:09:25
you know, I'm just going to keep it on.
1:09:27
Yeah. I mean, that's a good, good
1:09:28
blooper at the end. That's true.
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OK, bye. If this makes it to the end,
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yeah.