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Vanderpump IRL and Evil Stepmothers with Up and Adam · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it?
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  Speaker 2: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 2: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch.
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  Speaker 2: What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 3: Where?
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  Speaker 1: Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 4: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. Heather MacDonald has got
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  Speaker 2: the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop is the show to know.
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  Speaker 2: She talks Hollywood tales for real life, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Saving Serial Data and Serial Sisters. You'll be addicted and
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  Speaker 1: addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 3: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a return guest,
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  Speaker 1: the glowing, adorable, fresh from Florida for the week, weekend.
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  Speaker 1: He does have a last name. I know him as
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  Speaker 1: Up and Atom, but you actually have a last name.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy. I do have a last name. It's Newell.
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  Speaker 4: It's Newell, but everybody else, it's Up and Atom.
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  Speaker 1: It's Up and Atom. You have a great YouTube channel
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  Speaker 1: and you are up on all the pop culture and
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  Speaker 1: the shows. We have a lot of the same mutual
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  Speaker 1: friends through interviewing them and being fans. We've become real friends.
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  Speaker 1: And last night we were at the Sheena Shea live
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  Speaker 1: Sheena Shea podcasting concert.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Just like Shea Diaz has a comedy concert. Sheena had
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  Speaker 1: a podcast concert because she actually performed with a real band.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: It was so good.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much to talk about with this, by the way. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let's, Wait, what's my first photo? Here I am. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she looked really cute. What's great about Sheena and I
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  Speaker 1: is that we both have a good side. And she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't hide it. She talks about it openly. So do I.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not the same side. So we are able
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  Speaker 1: to be friends. We are able to sit on stage
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  Speaker 1: together and feel confident because my good side then matches
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  Speaker 1: her good side. And it's a really important thing for
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  Speaker 1: people in 2023. To be friends with, if you suffer
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  Speaker 1: from only having one good side, that you only make
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  Speaker 1: friends with people that match you, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that is important.
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  Speaker 1: It's very important.
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  Speaker 4: I learned Sheena's good side when she got me the
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  Speaker 4: job at Sur 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was, I went from being the first male
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  Speaker 4: host to her dedicated photographer for all of her photos.
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  Speaker 4: And she would make me retake, retake. No, babe. Retake
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  Speaker 4: this side. And she would make the fans, not like
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  Speaker 4: she would make them, but she would just turn on
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  Speaker 4: her other side.
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  Speaker 1: When I do meet and greets, sometimes based on where
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  Speaker 1: the stage is, because we usually take the photos on
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  Speaker 1: the stage. And on occasion, the place will have them
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  Speaker 1: come to my right side. So then they're going to
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  Speaker 1: come be near my right. That's not my good side. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm just putting it out there that you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to move you to the other side because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to enjoy those photos and I'm less
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  Speaker 1: likely to reshare them. It's just a fact. We're not
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  Speaker 1: all perfect, but we're honest, Sheena and I.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I've never noticed a side. Well, right
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  Speaker 4: now I have.
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  Speaker 1: You're perfectly shut up.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I have one eye that looks like Quasimodo and
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  Speaker 4: I'm missing a tooth back here because I'm getting my
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  Speaker 4: teeth rearranged, right? So we had to take a tooth out.
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  Speaker 4: So I look like I'm from Alabama on this side
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  Speaker 4: with a Quasimodo eye. So, and now this is my,
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  Speaker 4: I'm embracing the bad side. Fuck it. I'm normalizing the
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  Speaker 4: bad side. Well, good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, anyway, getting to it. So she comes out, she
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  Speaker 1: sings good as gold, which I just want to say
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  Speaker 1: for something that when she first did it and not
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  Speaker 1: every house, I've had a song and you know, she
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  Speaker 1: got up on the stage of sir, wherever she was
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  Speaker 1: singing it. And it was kind of like a comical
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  Speaker 1: thing for the fans to see has turned into a
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  Speaker 1: such a great thing, embracing it, and then actually getting
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  Speaker 1: a great band to do another song with her, which
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  Speaker 1: she performed at the end of the show, which is
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  Speaker 1: the Apple song. And it was like, it was rocking.
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  Speaker 1: Like both songs were rocking with this live band While
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  Speaker 1: she sang the Good as Gold and the Apple song.
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  Speaker 1: It was really good. It was really fun.
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  Speaker 4: What I love about it too with Sheena is she
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  Speaker 4: fully embraces. She's like, I'm not a vocalist. I don't
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  Speaker 4: have like this crazy skill where I'm going up there
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  Speaker 4: and I'm Mariah Carey. She's like, I just want to
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  Speaker 4: put on a show and have fun and go up
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  Speaker 4: there and just like rock out. If I could do that,
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  Speaker 4: then great.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say she sang it live. Just like
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  Speaker 1: Luann does live.
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  Speaker 4: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: With singing over a thing. So it's like you're getting
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  Speaker 1: the fun of it. I mean, at least, exactly. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I thought she sounded great. I thought it was super fun.
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  Speaker 1: And then you were the host. And then I came
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  Speaker 1: out and I was her guest. And that was pretty fun.
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  Speaker 4: And you killed it, by the way. I loved every
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  Speaker 4: bit of you being on stage. It was so funny.
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  Speaker 4: I was in the back with the sound technician and
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  Speaker 4: they were like, we get so many shows. And this
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  Speaker 4: one particular guy was not aware of who anybody was
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  Speaker 4: on stage. And he was laughing. And you're like, fuck
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  Speaker 4: this bitch. And like going on. And he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: my God, is she really saying that? And I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: Heather McDonald has entered the room because when I found
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  Speaker 4: out that the babies, Ocean and Summer were going to
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  Speaker 4: be there, I was like, at first I was like, Sheena,
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  Speaker 4: I had, I was going to go up there and
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  Speaker 4: be like, I know what you guys are probably thinking.
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  Speaker 4: Who the fuck is this guy?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And why is he here? And I was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my God, there's little babies. I can't say that. And
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, Heather's coming. Fuck.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, the kids, like most of our kids
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  Speaker 1: will hear, you know, the words, whatever. And I would
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  Speaker 1: talk about, I was with Lala and it was right
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  Speaker 1: after the reunion and we were in Palm Springs at
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  Speaker 1: her house and And we were walking to lunch with
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  Speaker 1: Logan and Leo, who are her guzmans, her best friends.
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  Speaker 1: And Ocean was there. And Lala was talking about what
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  Speaker 1: happened at the reunion. It was like the day after.
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  Speaker 1: And she said, like, you know, fuck it or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And then little Ocean goes, fuck it. She does a hand.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're like, truck. That's right. There's lots of
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  Speaker 1: trucks here, Ocean. And she's like, yeah, truck. Trucks. Trucks.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, anyway, the girls were. playing some ABC thing.
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  Speaker 1: They were dancing to the song. It was very cute.
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  Speaker 1: It was really fun. What I also didn't realize is
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  Speaker 1: that the questions that Sheena was asking me, because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't talk to Sheena really before, and you would tell
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit what we're going to cover, but
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that she really couldn't participate in the
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  Speaker 1: conversation about Bethany and Raquel and because of being under contract.
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  Speaker 1: So she had very good ways to get me to
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  Speaker 1: give my opinion. And then I was just like doing
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  Speaker 1: like a rant. And so I didn't really even know
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  Speaker 1: what it was, but I'm glad it was well-received and
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  Speaker 1: the audience was great and they were really fun. So
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  Speaker 1: it was fun.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was so excited because when Sheena invited
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  Speaker 4: me to her show, just like when I went to
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  Speaker 4: the premiere party, right? I asked Sheena, I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: what is the, and I wanted to make sure with
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  Speaker 4: her that I could even talk about this, but I
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  Speaker 4: asked her, I was like, what is the show? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what's the format? And I did my show at the
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  Speaker 4: Bourbon Room last year. And so I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: what is, what are we doing? And she's like, two
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  Speaker 4: live performances. I said, oh, who's performing? She said me.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, okay, so what's the rest of the show?
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  Speaker 4: And she's like, oh, I don't, we'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like I'm, she's filming. She's a mom. She's
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  Speaker 4: a wife. She has so much other shit going on.
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  Speaker 4: And she's like, I, I will figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So it was like, Shayna, we're going to figure this out.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to figure this out. We're going to throw
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  Speaker 4: some games in there. We're going to play it.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. Brock came up there. I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was just a really well-rounded, fun night. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: huge room. So I think the fans had a really
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  Speaker 1: good time. And what a treat for the fans because
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  Speaker 1: so many, almost the whole cast was there. Lala was there.
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  Speaker 1: James was there. Here I am with James with his cleft.
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  Speaker 1: And we had a Valley Brat shirt on, which I loved.
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  Speaker 1: And then Ariana was there.
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  Speaker 4: I took this photo, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, we looked pretty cute there. And that's no filter.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm looking up closer. Could have used one. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so Ariana was there and I gave her some tips,
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  Speaker 1: which I will not give to everybody. I may have
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  Speaker 1: said this on the show before, but I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to remind people because I don't want other people that
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  Speaker 1: are going to be competing against her in Dancing with
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  Speaker 1: the Stars to steal my tips that I told her.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully she will take them. But I just told
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  Speaker 1: you them off camera.
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  Speaker 4: I thought they were genius.
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  Speaker 1: And they're genius tips. to get her to win. So
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  Speaker 1: she's just as nice as ever, just as down to earth. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: even though she had all this good fortune come, she
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  Speaker 1: really made the lemonade and it really turned out just
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  Speaker 1: as nice as that, like just as down to earth
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  Speaker 1: and unassuming. And so I'm just saying, even though she's
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  Speaker 1: like such a bigger star than she ever was before
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  Speaker 1: this horrible tragedy, I don't think she's changed. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's really nice.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was interesting for me last night because
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  Speaker 4: I really wanted to make it a point to talk
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  Speaker 4: to her and Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was supposed to go film with Katie at
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  Speaker 4: something about her. And this was back in July. And then,
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  Speaker 4: of course, the permit issues and everything. And then Bravo.
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  Speaker 1: With the restaurant.
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  Speaker 4: With the restaurant. And Bravo literally said, no Bravo talent.
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  Speaker 4: You're not speaking to anyone right now, especially Vanderpump Rules. Like,
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  Speaker 4: especially because they, a lot of the cast members, even Rachel,
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  Speaker 4: who had the TMZ interview that wasn't staged outside of
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  Speaker 4: the salon, right? And she gave away what was going
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  Speaker 4: on and what she was going to say at the reunion.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, what the fuck? We're putting so much money
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  Speaker 4: into this. You don't get to ruin things. So I just,
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  Speaker 4: with everything that happened with Scandival and talking about it
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  Speaker 4: so much, I wanted to make sure that I went
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  Speaker 4: up to Ariana and Katie and I wanted to say, listen,
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to Ariana and Katie and I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that they knew like I open
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  Speaker 4: up the conversation but it's always in their favor and
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  Speaker 4: it's because I genuinely like them but it's this weird
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  Speaker 4: blurred line that I'm sure that you you deal with
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  Speaker 4: all the time because if I talk about a friend
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  Speaker 4: then holy fuck I'm getting a phone call and it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be like so and so and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: like what the fuck Heather and.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have to say, I should pat myself on
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  Speaker 1: the back because that has never happened to me.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 1: And I do keep the secrets. And then when they
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  Speaker 1: are revealed the way they're supposed to be revealed, whether
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  Speaker 1: the person tells it themselves or it's on a reality
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  Speaker 1: show or whatever, then I can kind of add to
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  Speaker 1: the juice that I heard at the time. And that's
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  Speaker 1: enough for me. Like, I don't need to... And I
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  Speaker 1: also don't want to ruin, you know, stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: However, I did get some juice last night.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 1: And I will... Someone share it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But first of all, this was fun. This was fun. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we're at, okay. So after the show, we go to,
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  Speaker 1: I had, I jump in Brock and Sheena's car and
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  Speaker 1: Brock is talking to me about stand up and you know,
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  Speaker 1: how I got started, whatever. And I'm in the front
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  Speaker 1: seat and Sheena's in the back and Sheena's talking about,
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  Speaker 1: they filmed the night before and there were some real
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  Speaker 1: arguments that happened. And I'm like, shut up, Brock.
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  Speaker 4: I want to listen to Sheena.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I want to listen to Sheena. Like, what happened
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  Speaker 1: last night when they were filming? And so I do
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  Speaker 1: want to say, in being friends with them and stuff, when, like, Bethany...
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  Speaker 1: I'll go back to this for a minute. When Bethany
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  Speaker 1: was saying on her show, like, I think this was
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  Speaker 1: manufactured and this stuff isn't true and all this other stuff,
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  Speaker 1: I can really say, in being friends with them, like, no.
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  Speaker 4: They.
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  Speaker 1: If they had an argument with someone the night before
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  Speaker 1: and it was on camera, it was... a real fight.
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  Speaker 1: It was organic. It was, you know, for reasons that
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  Speaker 1: were in their life, whether that is show driven or not,
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  Speaker 1: it's a real argument and they'll share it with their friends,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's me or whatever, the same way you would
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  Speaker 1: if you got, if you weren't a famous person. So it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's a very, it is an authentic group of people
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  Speaker 1: that really have these relationships and yeah, now their life
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  Speaker 1: is a, is bigger than being a waiter, obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that the show is reflecting that with
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  Speaker 1: their different businesses and, even maybe some jealousy about some
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  Speaker 1: of these brand deals and some of these opportunities that
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  Speaker 1: came from Scandaval, which is what we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: in this season is like the fallout and the prospering
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  Speaker 1: of them all becoming famous and people choosing sides and
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I think that's going
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  Speaker 1: to be really interesting to watch.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't joking when I did my little
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  Speaker 4: bit up at the beginning of Sheena's show. And I
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: was asked to interview for Vanderpump Rules. And I was
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  Speaker 4: asked about my husband. And when I sat down with
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  Speaker 4: them to do the interview, they're like, so what don't you.
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  Speaker 1: When they were thinking about hiring for you to be
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  Speaker 1: on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So... 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I did it for season two. And then they
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  Speaker 4: asked me to come back and do interviews for season
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: nine because Logan Cochran, who's Ariana's best friend, him and
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  Speaker 4: I got into a full knockout drag out at the
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  Speaker 4: front of TomTom one day. And the producer, Jeremiah, was there.
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, who is this person? And I get
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  Speaker 4: a text message.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you get in a fight with this guy?
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  Speaker 4: Because Logan wanted to be in the back of the room.
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  Speaker 4: Richardson was working there and nobody knew that I was
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  Speaker 4: doing the floor plans, but I did the floor plans
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  Speaker 4: because I wanted to make all the money. So I
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  Speaker 4: just wanted to make sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is just actual waiter fights.
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  Speaker 4: Waiter fights, right? So he's just watching this shit. And
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  Speaker 4: then I get a text message that said, hi, this
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  Speaker 4: is a producer from Vanderpump Rules. So he called me.
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  Speaker 4: I end up, I talked to Jason about it. I
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  Speaker 4: go to Sir and I film for this interview, right?
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  Speaker 4: The whole time it's, so what do you, what do
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  Speaker 4: you not like about Sheena? And I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: love Sheena. No, but like, really, she must piss you off.
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  Speaker 4: She probably annoys you. She's and I'm like, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: not at all. And then I looked at Jason and
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  Speaker 4: Jason's like, what the fuck? Like, we don't like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: my husband. And he's like, we don't dislike Sheena. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is what this is. And then
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  Speaker 4: after I took off the mic and And I took
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  Speaker 4: my husband and my Mormon mother-in-law and we went and
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  Speaker 4: had tequila shots. And that's what we did. And I said,
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  Speaker 4: fuck reality TV. We're not doing this. Let's take it
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  Speaker 4: to the tube. And that's where Up and Atom was born.
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  Speaker 4: I took control of the narrative.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so we're at, so now we go to
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  Speaker 1: this bar called Melrose Place.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And it was kind of, at first when we got there,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a shit show. Why am
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I not going home? But it was pretty early. It
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: was only eight o'clock because the show started so early.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: So, I was like, I'm like, you know, we'll go
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: up for a minute. Let me observe what it's like
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: to be young in LA going to these places that
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I used to go to. So I want to just observe.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: So we finally get up to gather everybody. We get
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: up and it's kind of nice because it's a hot
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: summer night and it's a rooftop bar and there's a
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: really good DJ who, by the way, is playing like
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: all the songs that I know and love, but then
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: with like a DJ mix. So it's like the Eurythmics
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, these like songs from like the
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: nineties and the, anyway, I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. And I
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: kind of go, I'm just going to like observe what
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: this crowd is like. And what I think is kind
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of cool about LA hipster life today, 2023 is like,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you can literally rock any outfit from any era. You
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: can be, and I'm going to say, I don't care.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Cause you can be kind of white, white trash country
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: with a, not a ducktail. What do they call it? A,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: A mullet? A mullet. A mullet. A mullet. You can
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: be 1990s Crips and Blood gangster. You can be a
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: girl with just a bikini top on, but then big
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: sweatpants and a pair of high heels. It's a very,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: like you could wear, you could wear an Agora sweater
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: and an acid wash jeans skirt.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Did you just go through Lala's whole closet? That's what
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I felt.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. No, but it's also, but it's also
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: like a different, and then you can also wear like
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: a really sleek, classy black dress. You can also be,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you know, with your fancy designer purse and a tiny,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: like when I, when we would go out, I was
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: telling my sister this, I'm like, there'd be just like,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: everyone would be dressing the same. Like you went to
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: BB or BCBG, you got your little velvet dress, you know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: this kind of clunky heel is in or chunky heel.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: This is, and if you weren't wearing that, it was like, oh,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you're kind of out of style. You're not. What I
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: kind of love going out last night is that There
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: were straights, there were gays, there was so many different
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: people and everyone was having fun. And there was kind
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: of a variety of ages. It wasn't all young.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: And anyway, go to Melrose Place on a Sunday night.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty fun.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Our friend who runs it, Chrissy, she's the one who
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: put all of this together because I asked Sheena, I said,
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: where's your after show? And Sheena's like, what? And I said, like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: after party, where's the party going? And so I reached
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: out to Chrissy. Chrissy used to work at Pump. She
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: killed it. But it was so funny because when I
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: walked in, you're like, I don't know. I'm about to
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: go home. I don't fucking know. And then I went
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: and talked to you over at the table. And then
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: they were like, you guys got to get away from
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: the table. And then all of a sudden I came
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: back and I sat down to talk to Ariana and
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: you're sitting right next to her. And I'm like, wait.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Well, the best part is they only had one. They
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: only had one real table reserved.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And Sheena did have like the bottle service. And that
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: was kind of fun with the people. OK, but there
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: were two pregnant people there.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Pregnant women there. And very cute girls. You know, Janet,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: who's on the valley. And then this other girl, I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: don't know her name, but she's gorgeous. And she had
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: her stomach exposed and she looked amazing. So the pregnant
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: women were there and they had the table for a minute.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: But then it was time for the pregnant girls to
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: go home. So then I was able to sit down
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and I had a really great, as my dad would say,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: people watching spot. Like I could just watch it all.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So Logan and Leo, who are... the best friends of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Lala and they're really fun and they're friends with everybody
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and they're like funny they're like like a comedic duo
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: whatever and so they're like laughing and stuff and they
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: were like swinging from the trees there's like there were
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: bushes and they're like coming around and they're being silly
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and Logan and Leo is like I have a present
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: for you it's Christmas and I'm like what are you
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: talking about and I look over and there is Tara
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Reid talking to Katie at our table and And listen,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: we've all seen Tara Reid lately. Right. And I remember
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I was following her on TikTok. I feel like she
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hasn't done them in a while. But she was doing
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: some around Halloween and she was doing different Halloween costumes.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And she was like, I'm a little fairy duster.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I'm a whatever.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I'm a butterfly. Like she would just be like doing these. Hey, guys,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: who wants to see? Josie and the Pussycats too. Like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: she's always been kind of a mess for a while.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: And like I interviewed her for this show called Hollywood.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the name.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I did it with Ross.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I can't literally remember the name of the show.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I had to.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Interview her and she had like a whole team of
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: people like doing her hair and makeup. And she sits
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: down and it's like a live type of a thing.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And she has all this red lipstick on her teeth.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm talking to her and I'm trying to like
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: focus on whatever. She's on Shark. NATO 12 and I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: trying to having to ask about that you know and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like these people hate her like how can you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: your job is to put the lipstick on her and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you're watching her and I'm like how could you not
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: have made sure that she didn't have lipstick on her
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: teeth so she comes over she's very thin and and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: she's talking about how she is on um with Sandoval
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: she is on the special forces world's toughest test this
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: is Like to be a Navy SEAL or whatever the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the nail Navy seal green beret version of like English soldiers.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like you, it's hard. Okay. Right. Not,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: not a show I want to be on.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Drew was on it and he was like, no, it
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: was amazing. I'm so mad. I got sick. I got
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: kicked out. I'm like, listen, I would be like, I'm
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: ready to go home in four minutes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just get your first paycheck and go.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Not, but you're supposed to want to stay, but also because,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because it is so hard, a lot
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of people really just can't handle it. Anyway, Tara Reid's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And not that I know, but I would predict someone
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: who is her age and like 85 pounds, I'm guessing
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: she is not the one that's going to end up
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: wanting to join the Navy SEALs.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Winning.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm guessing, and I'm guessing someone like Tom, who, Sandoval,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: who's very physically fit, is going to probably last and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: do pretty well. In my opinion, I think it just
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: comes to people being athletic or not. Even though some
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: things are mind tricks or whatever, the majority of it
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: is like, can you fucking climb up this mountain with
• 20:55
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• 20:56
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  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 21:46
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• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: the Emmys and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I need a home dad.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: those hard moments that they go through.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: It's about what happens next.
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  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: every day was.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You're worth the work.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches. You can
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's Tom and looking real douchey in this photo.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is, I didn't like love, I didn't
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: finish watching this show. I think it's genius that they
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: got him. I think people are going to be into watching.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Because of him?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I went to Publix the other day in my neighborhood.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: And I had a Scandival shirt on, a merch shirt
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: that said underneath Team Ariana. And the girl who was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: pushing the cart said, oh my God, every time I
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: see you wear that shirt, I'm like, fuck, am I
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: wearing it all the time? Every time I see you
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: wear that shirt, It reminds me of my last name.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: My last name is Sandoval. This older man is walking
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: past and he's like, oh, like that guy who's on
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the Special Forces, that celebrity on Special Forces. And I'm like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: that is so funny that that's where you know him
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: from because we all know him as like the douchebag narcissist,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: like asshole who fucked over Ariana, right? Yes. Not like
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Special Forces.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Okay. All right. That's where we're at.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure what I had here. Okay.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: So.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Let me see what else happened here. Oh, here they are.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think Blac Chyna's on it too. I think they
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: got some good people for this. I don't know. It'll
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: be interesting.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, and Jojo Siwa? Yeah, they really do. Yeah. Do
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: you know what she said though, by the way, last night?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Jojo?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: No, Tara.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: No, what?
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: You didn't hear what she said?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: No, do tell.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: So she walks up and she's like, and everybody looked
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: and Ariana and Katie, everybody was like, the fuck is
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: she saying? And she's like, I just want to let
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: you guys know that I think Tom Sandoval is a
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: really great person. And I think everybody really needs to
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: back off of him. So that was the whole purpose
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: of her walking over to the table, like, read the room, girl.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: This is not the fucking table to go to, to say,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I think that you're advocating for the wrong asshole. What
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: are you doing?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I just love that Logan and Leo found her
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in another section of this rooftop bar.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: As they're bee-bopping around you? And so then.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Then there's this other thing that starts to happen with
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: this other girl that walks up to the group. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: when she first walked up to the group, it was
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: shortly after two people that Ariana knew that Ariana was
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: super excited to see. And was like, ah! Like, I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: don't know who they were, but they were clearly good
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: friends of hers. So this other girl walks up and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: she's a pretty blonde girl. She's wearing like a black
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: bodysuit and jean shorts and, you know, minimal makeup. Like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: very hot, pretty, 20-something, whatever, blonde. And she's talking to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Sheena and being very animated. And so I'm like catching
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the conversation. And no, she did not know them personally
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: until that night.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: She had the juicy scoop.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: The juicy scoop is that she allegedly is saying, because
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I was there, that she has been seeing Mr. Sandoval
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for like a month. And, um, but she could have
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: lied about it. She could have whatever. And Hey, he's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a single guy. It's not that big of a deal.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But being that I don't think the cast was aware
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that he was seeing anyone, you know, so this could
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: be interesting. Maybe they're still filming. Maybe there could be, um,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: her showing up. I think she certainly wanted them to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: know who she was. I mean, I don't think it's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a secret. I think she would listen. Anyone that's screwing
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: sound of all at this moment has aspirations to be
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: on the show. Right. So, but I wonder, gosh, not
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to feel sorry for Santa while they don't, but like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you know, do people on the show, unfortunately, or any reality.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Show, these girls, like- How do you trust them?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: How do you trust that they really actually like you?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Or are they just like, hey, you're a hot body.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I don't really care. I like to have recreational sex.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And if it can result in me- Being famous. Being
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: on a show with like cool, fun people and not, like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how- Now, could she have just happened
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: to have been that night? Could she have been lying?
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But it really made the night juicy
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh my God, we're just, I'm like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I felt like. We are really in it right now.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: We are really in it right now.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: It was like we had everything but the cameras.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: But even the funny thing about this, too, is based
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: off of what I've heard about Dan, Ariana's new man,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: it's like he really wants to let her shine. He
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: kind of just supports her. He takes a step back
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: and he doesn't want the fame of it, right?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: That's what I've heard. And I haven't met him, so
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want to speak on it as if I have.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: But so I think not only is she winning in
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: all other aspects, but then you found somebody who from
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: what it seems, is not using you for a come up.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: And then you have him. But the thing about somebody
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: like Tom Sandoval, and this isn't a bad thing. You know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Tom did my show at the Bourbon Room last year.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: It was so nice for him to come. All of that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, you didn't know what he was.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: During your show, would he have been seeing her? Was
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it in that time frame?
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: It was April. I think the time their time frame
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: is so far. Who knows? Yeah, it was way before.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: We still don't know. But I think for him, I've
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: known Tom for 10 years. And when I first started
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: at Sir, he was working the bar and he was
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: working like the restaurant bar side. And he would ask me, hey,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: did anybody call and ask if I really work here today?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Did anybody? And he would ask the questions like, are people?
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: So he's always been about himself. So if you want
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: to sit there and pray on somebody who has the
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: fame and has the notoriety, all of it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: He's probably not going to mind.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just have to feed it. You're like, oh
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: my God, you're amazing. You sing so great. I walked
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: up to him. He came to my husband's birthday at
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: some rooftop, whatever pool. It was all of the surf people, pump, whatever.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: And I said to him, I said, man, you bought
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: like a $ 2 million house. This is incredible. Look at you.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Remember where you started and when I met you back then?
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And look where you're at now. And he's like, actually, bro,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: it was 2.3 million. And I was like, oh, fuck off. Like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Fuck off. Fuck off.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Like, fuck off.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But thank you for always being true to your character. Like,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you don't change. You are who you are. That's what
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. They 100% are the people that you see
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: on the show. They are off camera. The good, the bad,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the insensitive, the funny. All of it. All of it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It's like it really is, which is kind of great
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and which is sometimes a shame when you are a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: fan of reality show, and we're going to get into
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: some other reality shows, where... the cast just doesn't have
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that or the people are coming in with an agenda
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and we, we see it because we're sophisticated reality show watchers,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So when it, it can be really, um, okay, I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: going to skip through that because that was a little,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that was one of the photos of, of what I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: was just talking about and I put it in there
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to show the photo of whoever
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: this person is because in case somebody is going to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: go back or whatever, or let you guys enjoy it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: If this person makes an appearance at, The next event.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Which I predict that she will.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: You actually put $ 4, 000 on it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I put $ 4, 000 that she'd be at this thing that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be at Tuesday. Randomly.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to be texting you on Tuesday.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: No.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Which is today. You're listening to this today.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: So, okay.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Let's, oh, I do want to talk about a little
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: bit more about the whole, just because we talked about it,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: but with the reality reckoning. Okay. I just do want to,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to talk a lot about Bethany
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because you guys are like, maybe sick of it. Maybe
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you're not. But, I believe the reality reckoning has, I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: have never seen a movement that has had less momentum
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: than the reality reckoning. The only person that has talked
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: about it is Bethany herself. And we have to this day,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: there is not one person that has joined her publicly
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in wanting to like sue former networks or whatever.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Is there?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Well, no.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of the people are building their
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: cases behind the scenes and going to her. But a
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: lot of the talent who from what I've heard, a
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: lot of the talent who's going to her, their talent
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: that they're no longer signed on their shows. And I
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: think what a lot of people are looking at this
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: as is they hear you should be getting residuals. They
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: hear that if you're not getting paid for those old episodes,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: then they shouldn't be airing them. And I think that
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: people think residuals, like kind of old school back in
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the day, residuals were a lot. But now it's like
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: you're getting pennies. And you didn't sign a contract that
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: gave you residuals. You didn't, you know, for example.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a different model.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why they're trying to figure out
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: what the new model is for SAG and Writers Guild
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that makes sense for the future when it comes to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: streaming and stuff.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they didn't sign it for that. But also
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the benefit is... is different in that, um, when it
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: does air, because it is your real life and you're not,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not like you were on a Disney
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: show and now you're 30 and you're still getting some
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: money because it's an NBC rerun of when you were
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a little girl or whatever. Right. And you're playing, you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Ruby Huxtable or whatever, which by the way, they're mad
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: because those shows can't air anymore because the dad was,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: you know, a disgusting rapist. But anyway, um, but, um, uh,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Bill Cosby, but, um, uh, What is kind of good
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: is if you are pushing a product or a persona
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: or whatever, even if you're not on it anymore and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: it's airing five years and someone's watching it, whatever, if
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you share that stuff, it is going to be profitable
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: for you, whether it's the restaurant that you still own
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: or not a lot of these products that people bring out,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Blackwater or whatever, Diamond Water, that one girl from Shaw's,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: they're not still around. It wasn't a hit, whatever. Right, right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: But it's a hard thing. I just think one thing
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that they said was, you know, we want NBC, Universal
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to release the talent from the NDAs that they stated.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that Bravo spoke up and they
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: said they could speak. We've never told them that they
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: can't speak. The only kind of thing that they agree
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to not talk about, like Sheena not being able to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: talk about it herself on, you know, in other platforms
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and other shows, is what's going on on the show
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: right now, don't spoil the storylines. And when I've interviewed people,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: it's always like, we're not going to spoil anything, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: anything from the past, whether they're currently on a show
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about, hey, three seasons ago,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: they've always been able to talk about it. The early
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: days of Juicy Skip were all bringing people on that
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: were former reality stars who told every behind the scenes secret.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: They weren't sued by the network after that. There was
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: no gag order. of how Rock of Love was ran.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: You know, it kind of, what confuses me a little
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: bit about this is I feel like the message, especially,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: and this is just opinion, right? Opinions are like assholes.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: We get that. But I feel like the message here
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: with bringing on Rachel has kind of got a little
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: bit lost because I know for a fact, a few
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: of her statements, like the, I hadn't been, I only
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: spoke to Tom Sandoval twice in email and they weren't
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: in a real relationship and Lala stole Brock's goddamn house
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: and all of these things. It's like, I think now
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: we're losing the message because then when you have like
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the shit that's going on with below deck and you
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: have product like members of production coming forward saying this
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: man intoxicated was trying to press up on me. That's
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: where there should potentially be like somebody in place to
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: prevent that or say get the fuck off the show.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: But that's not that's now we're not even talking about that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: We're talking about somebody who is you know being yelled
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: at on a show by these girls and saying go
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: fuck yourself with a cheese grater. But you also lied
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: to her. You know what I mean? And like you said,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: they've all said really shitty things. So I feel like
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: with that interview specifically, we took away from the real
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: message of needing to put certain things in place to
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: make sure that these are safer environments, right? But also
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like reality TV. You make a deal
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: with the devil.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: It kind of happened with The Bachelor in Paradise. There
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: was that incident where this girl was really wasted drinking
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: all day in Mexico and they had to like, shut
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: down production because there was some guy kind of getting
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: with her and they thought that she was too out
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: of it. I can't even remember the people, but that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: was like a controversial moment. And they, they did shut
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it down. They did do a full investigation. It is
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a hard thing. And I'm not saying I'm for it
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: or not. I mean, like, you know, I, I wouldn't want,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I would never want to be on below deck if
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, suddenly 25 and into yachting, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: would not want to be on below deck. I would
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: not want cameras in my cubby, bed while i'm like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: screwing some guy and my parents can watch it it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: not anything i would ever want right to do for
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: myself or i'd never want my kids to do that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: so um but it's just but i i mean reality
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: reckoning i want to say i think it's this is
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the the real era is the era of bethany blundering
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: like she is just like putting all these crazy videos
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: out deleting them She is trying to figure out what
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: her next thing is. Now she's giving advice to 20-year-olds
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: trying to be an auntie. She's like, life is not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a filter. When I was in my 20s, I wasn't
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: on yachts and guys falling all over me and getting jewels.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I had zits. I had frizzy hair. And I'm like, no,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you didn't. You were engaged multiple times. You had many
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: beautiful items that you received from wealthy men. You were
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: not poor.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Affiliated with the Hiltons.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were not poor. Like you went to fancy schools.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Her dad was rich, right?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yes. Both dads were rich. The dad and the stepdad.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like, she's always just trying to, what's
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the next thing? You know, what's the next thing? Oh,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: this is going to make me like seem authentic. And
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of satisfying to see that the younger
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: people that are into this and content creators themselves are
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: calling her out on her bullshit. and kind of laughing
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: at her in not a good way, laughing at her,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: not with her. And for someone that kind of always
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: saw her for what she is, very hypocritical, it's just
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: satisfying for me. That's it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I just had to say, I'm satisfied. I saw your
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: video on Instagram and you're like, let me just say
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: really quick, Rachel, you did yourself no favors. And at
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: the end, you're like, here's a piece of advice and
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: get on a show about how you've like, fuck your
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: best friend. And I was like, oh my God. And
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I showed Jason and Jason's dying laughing. And he literally
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: laughed so hard. We're at a bar. And this woman
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: looks over next to us. And I'm like, nothing's happening
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: over here. Nothing to see. Nothing to see. I'm like, Jason,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: fucking tone it down.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Well, let's move on. A little bit about Real Housewives
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of New York. And you don't have to be watching
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: this show, people that are listening to this, to enjoy
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the conversation. Because I'm not going to get into the nuances.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I don't over-recap the stuff. But I just kind of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: want to get your general opinion of what you think
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of the show in general and the young girls and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. I mean, they're younger. Jenna Lyons is 54.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I almost feel like they could have taken like her
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and maybe one other person that like Erin, who I
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: think kind of has kind of like an older soul.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I would have meshed the two of them with a
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: handful of the OGs and I would have kept, that's
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: how I would have done it. I don't know that
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: doing a whole new cast with nobody that's keeping us
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: grounded To the housewives. But I kind of go back
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and forth. It's just a very different show.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: But I did take some notes of a lot of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: things that are similar but not as fun.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: So what are your initial thoughts before I get into
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: like each character?
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I think that they really tried to
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: find people that resemble some of the other cast members.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Like Brynn gives you total Sonya Morgan vibes, right? And
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: then you have... It's just... What's interesting here is I
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: try to always give like, because these people put their
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: lives out there, right? Like you said, it is real. So,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: but to produce, but then there are elements. I think
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: you give them like grace and like we get to
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: meet them the first season. It's like our Dubai ladies
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: and we're meeting them. But then I don't know. It
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: makes me a little nervous. Like, are the housewives, are
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: they going to continue to thrive? Are we a dying brand?
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: And not we, me, I'm not a housewife, but them,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: you know, I think about this.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I actually think scraping it and starting with
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: all new people now is not the best idea.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: No.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I think you've got to like take them, you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: get move one on or like parlay someone new.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Like I, I kind of think, but I'll tell you
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: how Bravo fucked up. I'll tell you right here.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: They've, they've tried to pivot. What they did originally was
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: every year with these bonuses, with the NeNe Leakes, the
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Vicky Gumbelson, the Teresa Giudice, they're paying these women. More, more, more, more.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: They want more bonuses, whatever. But then the ratings started
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: to go down from 3 million views, 2 million views.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Now we're at 450,000 to 900,000 views, right? But I will.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Say in that, I don't really think that's a fair
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: estimation because that's just for when you watch it on Bravo,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: on regular TV at that time.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube TV, you can watch
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: it on Sling, you can watch it on Peacock. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: don't know that that is included in when Bethany, you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: brags about, I was, you know, the most successful housewife
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: that ever lived and our ratings were this. Well, yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: your ratings 10 years ago, the only game in town
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was watching it on cable. So like, I don't know.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: No, no, that's actually fair. But yeah, I think what
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: they did was they started paying them so much. So
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: then they tried to pivot and then they're like, Vicki Gumbelson,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: we pay her a shit ton of money. We can
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: take her off, bring in some new girl who would
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: be thirsty for the camera time, give her $ 60, 000 and
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: we're not paying $ 900, 000 or a million. And then let's
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: see if we still have a good show, you know?
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: But then we tried to do that. We brought in
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: the Noella Bergener on Real Housewives of Orange County. She
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: was a total fan that came on and came off
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: like a fan. And so we tried to pivot. And
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: then now we're doing.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to OC just because you're
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: talking about OC. Then I'll go back to New York.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Go on.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Then we tried to pivot. And like with Roni,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: we do a whole recast.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: And it's like I feel like right now we're taking pasta,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: we're throwing the shit at the wall, and we're seeing
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: what sticks.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: When really we're so invested in the OGs, you might
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: as well just give them their paycheck and keep them around.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Because otherwise people aren't really interested in seeing new people.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: It's like when Vanderpump Rules tried to pivot season eight
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: and they brought on Maxx. Brett Caprioni, Danica, Dana, Charlie.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Like Charlie, fuck that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: And the other girl, the transgender woman.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Billy Lee.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Billy Lee, yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Billy Lee. But it's like they were trying to
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: bring on new people because that's when they were going
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: to do the spinoff.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: But the cast, like the fans wanted to know more
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: about Sheena, Stassi, Jax, Kristen, Tom, Tom, Katie, Ariana. And
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: that's the thing. It's like you have, a working machine.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Just stick with it. If they like, don't let them
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: abuse you in the contracts and be like, we want
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: more money. And like Rachel being like, I need to
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: be paid the same as Tom and Ariana.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I will say one thing that came, it was
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: controversy about how much, um, Rachel made.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: First, Bethany said, you make, um, less than what my
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: interns make.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And then they said, no, she made 361 for the year.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And then someone said, no, it must be, that's what
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: she's made in the entirety of being on Housewives. And
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: then Sheena clarified on her podcast because she got the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: attorney and because they were so close, she is aware
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: of her pay. And it was that. It was $ 19, 000
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: an episode for 19 episodes, which equals 361. Right. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: so that is 100% the truth. But what she wanted
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: was to be paid as much as Tom and Ariana.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: And just like Housewives, you get paid based on how
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: many years you've been on. Same thing happened with Jill.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Zarin said, I want to be paid to go back
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: for OG Legacy as much as everybody. Well, Luann, being
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: that she's been on for 10 years and Jill had
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: only been on four, she was going to make a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: lot more than Jill. Now, of course, all these things
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: can be broken. It's not in stone. You can go,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: all right, whatever. It's valuable enough to just say, hey,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: we're going to make it favored nations. But in this case,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: that was one of the things I just wanted to clarify.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So let's just go back to New York real quick. Okay,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: so this Erin girl, a lot of people say she
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: looks like Jen Aniston. In this particular photo, she really does.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: She does.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: From her confessional. But she really looks like her hair.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Really looks like her hair.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: She's so pretty.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: She's really pretty. But she doesn't always look like that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I just thought that was kind of interesting.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And then I also want to say this girl, Psy. Oh, okay.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: This is not a great photo. But I was trying
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to grab the fact that she's wearing this top. And
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I know people that are women will agree to this.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I just want to push it down because it's like
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: there's like stitching that is the cups around the boobs,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: but it's like hitting her above the boobs. And it
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: bothers me so much that this isn't like underneath her cup.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Is it making you feel like... See.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: How her boobs are inside the cup?
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Is it kind of making you feel like her nipples
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: are up here? Yeah, it is.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: It's just like, it just doesn't look good and she's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a stylist.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Why did they make this like... They made her look
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: like a Bratz doll here.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It just... Okay.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Let me just say another thing about the Bethany Clause.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: About the Bethany Clause. Now, everybody... She also said, you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: people have to pay... 15%. 15%. And I'm like, I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: think this is an urban myth. I think it's another
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: thing that she started. I don't really think someone's getting
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: a contract from Vanderpump Rule and it literally says the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Bethany Clause or maybe it doesn't say the Bethany Clause,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: but it's about that. Even if it's in there, I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: don't think that they act on it.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Right. Because.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: So they're really going to Schwartz and Sandoval. They're really...
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And where does that go? Does that mean if Lala
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: is wearing her Senator Daryl shirt this season?
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, have you asked that? Have you asked Lala?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Everyone has said they've never come after them. Every person
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I've asked said no. Like whether I had a book,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: they never were like, where's the 15%? I mean, they
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: would have to get forensic accountants to figure this out.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: So I just don't believe... I think what they... If
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: there is anything in there, I think they say, if
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: you are launching... a product, really launching it, it did
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: not exist before, then we're going to have a stake
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: in it. But I still don't even know that they
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: would really follow up on it. It would have to
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: be so successful that it would be worth it for
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: them to try to collect.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like we're going to make sure that
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: if another person sells part of their business to Jim
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Bean for $ 100 million, we're getting our 15% in that case.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I think also what people do is when they have
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: an event, they... try to say, okay, you know, at
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the event, I'm going to, or while I'm cooking, I'm
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: going to have my seasoning or my alcohol out there.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Or I remember one time Ramona, you know, had something
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: to do talking to somebody as they came in the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: room on like a girls weekend. And she's just holding,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: she's just like holding her like ageless, which doesn't exist anymore,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: skin cream because she was like, let me try to
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: get this. And Bethany Franco, when she's faking being upset
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: about it's about Tom is drinking her skinny girl. There's that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: But then there's like actually like where they're actually in
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: this case, Jenna Lyons has an eyelash line.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And we see this entire day of where she's doing
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: a photo shoot for the eyelash line. Also, she talks
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to this other girl who she's helping decorate her house
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and they're on Zoom. Right. And that girl is like, oh,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing your eyelashes and I love this case. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it's all in there. Anybody watching this that's a housewife
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: might be like, why the fuck are they featuring these
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: eyelashes so much when I've been on the show for
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: five years and I've tried to get or like, let's
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: see your camera. I've mentioned my CBD a few lines.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: And I've had parties for the CBD and then they
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: don't use it. So it's my understanding, I would bet
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: money on this, that Jenna Lyons is either paying to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: have her product in there, a portion, or take out
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: five grand out of my salary that week, something. There's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: got to be a deal.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Negotiating it into it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Negotiating almost like I'm paying to have an ad on
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: this show.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Well, then what the hell did, okay, and I know
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: you're friends with them and this is not a diss.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: But well, I think you're friends with the one, but
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Leah Black and Jill Zarin, they are walking ads for
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: everything that they do. And every time they have a scene,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: it's like, oh my gosh, this is so crazy. You
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: like this captain? This is a Jill Zarin captain.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: They weren't paying for it. So they had, they have
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to do it like that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: So they just shove it up your ass?
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: They want to shove it up your ass so that
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: you do see it. But then of course people are,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: but then the cast is mocking it because they're getting
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: jealous because they're like, I'm on this stupid show. making
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a wreath, making $ 60, 000. And Jenna Lyons just walked in
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: giving gifts to everybody that every single gift is a
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: brand collab that she's doing. Because she's fucking there for
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a reason. Because you start to watch it, you're like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: why is this woman who made all this money at J.Crew,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: is a lesbian, is not your typical housewife, why is
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: she doing this? She's doing this because she wants this
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: lash line to be huge. And this is her opportunity.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: So whatever she negotiated with them, and I don't think
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it's just, oh, I just happen to be talking to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: this person about eyelashes. Her using that Zoom with that woman,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: there was nothing interesting about that scene.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: This isn't an actress that we recognize. She wasn't talking
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: to Julia Roberts.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: So that's why I think she financially paid to have
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: her product mentioned this many times you know because that
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: could be confidential but i'm telling you i know this.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like this is like on par with what
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: we're speaking about but i really respect like let's well
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: i'll take it back to lala for a second because
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: she's like when it came out with the whole rachel
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: shit she's like you could monetize off of this go
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: out there put it on a shirt put you know
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: at least you don't have a man to fucking steal
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: you know like make the money do it while you
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: can why else are you guys putting yourselves on tv
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: to have moments where you look like an asshole or
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: your most vulnerable moments or you're partying, you get drunk
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: or you get a divorce, whatever. Why else are you
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: putting yourself out there unless it's to have some sort
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: of come up with a business or something? You have
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: to think in this moment when you enter the game,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I'm going straight special forces here. Come on, Tara Reid,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: stick with me. You have to think that we are
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: getting in this shit. And what is the long game?
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: What are we starting? What are our businesses? Another thing
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: that Stassi did really well. It's like fucking if you're
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: going to be on here and you're going to make
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: your look like an asshole, start a business.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and in respect to Bethany, there's a
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: scene where she meets Luann in the Hamptons and she
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: drives her little skinny girl car that's wrapped in the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: skinny girl.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And Luann is like, why would you do that, darling?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: This is so, she thinks it's funny because Luann is, Honestly,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, this was a long time ago.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And Luann was really just being the countess. Right. And
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: she was really just like, oh, you want to follow
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: my life? Great. She wasn't thinking the long game at
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the time. Bethany was smart to do that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people, how can you not follow
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: it when you see Loverboy and everything? You'd be crazy
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: not to.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So if somebody just really comes on the show and
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, I'm going to share my life. Like
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: this Jessel girl who has the twins.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Like I really don't I still don't know what she
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: does for a living. I don't know and she's like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: oh I have to buy two of everything because I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: have twins.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Do you really believe that she moved there just for
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: the show?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: You do? I do.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I heard that she moved there for the show.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't know what the goal is except just
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to be famous because I don't even know what her
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: job or product is or what.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I know she keeps saying that she has to get
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: back into it. She feels like she's missing out.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: What does she do? I don't even know and then
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I have twins. So I have
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to buy two of everything. And I'm like, wait a minute.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Can I just talk to twin people? Like, aren't you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: like parents of twins? Like, OK, once in a while,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: dress them alike. But isn't it kind of been taught
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: like you probably shouldn't dress your kids alike all the
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: time if you have twins? So why would you have
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: to buy two of everything? Why can't they just wear
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: their brother's outfit?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Or it's like you're making, yes, exactly. And you're making
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: them equal. It's like they need to be equal. Guess what?
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: You know, I had to deal with this with, I
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: have a lot of brothers and sisters. And growing up,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: it was like, you guys all need to be equal.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like my parents fucked me in that sense
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: because growing up and now that I'm an adult, I'm like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: that's not how the fucking world works. And I'm not
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: equal to like, there are people who are 10 times
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: better than me. And then there are real assholes that
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: don't compare me to them. We're not equal. And that's okay.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I also think as, as a parent to going forward,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of, um, you know, people that are like, okay,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: whether you're really rich or not, everybody gets this amount
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: for Christmas or whatever. And I've always like told my kids,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Whether I pay for a private school for
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: one of you and you choose not to go to
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a private school, that's none of your business. All my
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: kids are my kids and I will pay for what
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I feel that child needs or wants. If you're not
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: asking for it, it's not like you're going to get
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the money that I spent on the private high school.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You're not now, my other son, going to get that
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: as an extra when I die or something. Like parents,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I just hate it when kids... I don't know who's–
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the chicken or the egg.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the parents that set that.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: But I think that starts for like comparing and jealousy
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: when actually it should be like, hey, if one child
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: is a teacher and they need me to, you know,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: help with the down payment of a house and I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: can do that and my other child is running a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Fortune 500 and has– I'm not going to also give
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: that child– the 50,000 that I gave to this, you
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: And I think you.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Need to set that with your kids early on so
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that they don't have issues when they're adults. And so far,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like my kids, hopefully, they've never expressed it,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: they don't have comparable financial jealousy towards each other at all.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: It's so funny that you say this because I met
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: this woman while I was doing cardio, met this woman
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: and her husband works for NASA, right? And they super
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: rich down in Palm Beach and their kids go to
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: school with Barron Trump and the private schools and stuff. Well,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: we went over there for dinner because he created this
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: product that is going to mess up big pharma and
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: it's going to help with things. And now you don't
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: need medication and pills. So whatever. That was the backstory.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: The nine year old comes in and he says he's like, Dad.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: why don't you, since they want to go to private school,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: save the tuition, just pay me and I'll go to
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: public school. And I looked and I was like, this
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: little guy was just negotiating. He's like, pay me the
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: tuition and I'll put it away and then I'll buy
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: a house when I turn 18. And his dad was like, no,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: you're going to private school. And I'm like, this, like,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I've had that with my son too about college because
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: he's aware how much it is. And he was like,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, mom. Really? Really?
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: We're writing this check for next semester or whatever. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we are. And it's not a negotiable.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: And I even remember like with my getting married to
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: my husband, his dad was very financially practical and all
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And actually wasn't excited that my parents were
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: throwing this big fancy wedding. And I remember my husband
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: on the phone with him. And I think he was
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: saying like, this is crazy. Why don't you just ask
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: them for the money so you can put it on
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a down payment for a house? And I remember he
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: was like, it doesn't work that way, Dad. It's not
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the choice.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: This is what they're doing. This is what she wants.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: This is what her family wants. Like, you know, and
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: then he stopped. But I was like, yeah, it's sometimes
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: it's not like getting back to this, getting back to
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: this housewife. OK, so that about let me see what else. Uba,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: they were I felt they were mad that she's been
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: sick and didn't have to work. which is always the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: thing I'm so aware of now. They get really mad
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: when people, these reality stars, they treat this shit like
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: a factory and you didn't come to the factory that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: day and it's not fair that they have to make
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Reese and you're quote unquote coughing.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: But then if you FaceTime, if you FaceTime in, then
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: you were featured in that episode and you get your $ 19, 000.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Or whatever it is.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Or whatever it is. Good point. Let me see what else.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: The Aaron girl, I don't know what she does for
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a living. And, you know, but she's got this, you know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the rich ex-fiance and she's, you know, being a flirt
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and whatever.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, I don't know.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I just don't really feel like any of this is
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that interesting or real right now.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting to see. I really hope that they bring
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: it at the reunion. And I hope but I just
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: don't know what there is to argue about.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: There isn't because there isn't strong. There's not deep rooted
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: connections or even even when the Housewives of New York started.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: even if they weren't really close, they really knew each
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: other in social circles for many years prior. Right. So
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: there really was, and it really was just about being
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a housewife. It wasn't Jill Zarin sharing Zarin fabrics. And
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it evolved into that because that was their life,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: but the majority was the cameras following Jill dealing with
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the fact that you know, Allie was still awkward around Bobby,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: her stepfather and was 14. And we saw that and,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you're going to go to the fat camp
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and all this other stuff, which one of the funniest
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: moments I ever had hanging out with Jill and Allie was,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and I've told this story before, but it just is
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: so funny. And I love Allie, her daughter, and we're
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: at their house. I'm like doing shows in Palm beach
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: or something. So I'm staying at the house in where
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: they live in Boca Raton. And Gloria's there. It was
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: just classic. older Jewish woman who's, you know, got beautiful
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: skin and has had some work done and is great.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And there was some conversation about weight and like, you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: who's gained weight and her like saying that Jill had
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: or something. And then Jill gets in the car and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: we're driving back and she goes, see Allie, see what
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I was, what my mother put me through talking about
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: my weight. You know, at least I'm like that. And
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: then Allie just totally dead panics is goes, um, no mom,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: it's not like you put me on a reality show
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: when I was 14 and sent me to a fat camp.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And I was like, where's the camera? And I'm laughing.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, that did happen. And thank God,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Allie is so great and adjusted and they work together.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: It just lives with her for the rest of her life.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: They have a great life.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: But I mean... I mean, but also.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: But also then Jill not seeing it. And I just
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: thought it was like so.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Just so real that you was like, my mom was
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: meaner than I am. You should be happy. And then
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: your daughter being like, yeah, but you did this. Like
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: it was just... Perfect.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: And now Jill's just smuggling Diet Cokes into whatever country.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: The best. I don't know what. Jill, honestly, to me,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: she is comedic relief. I do like watching her.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: No, it never stops. And it's like, again, completely, there's
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: no difference. No difference.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: So would you rather have this, like if the network
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: came to you right now and they said, okay, we're
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: going to give the decision 100% to you. I'm the
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: deciding factor. You're the deciding factor. We're canning them and
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: bringing back the old cast, and you get to put
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: together the cast with the OGs, are you doing that?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I don't ever want to scan anyone.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I think that this could have more time.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I would say if it doesn't work, if it's like
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you guys, and I think what will happen, prediction.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I think they will bring back some of the old cast.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: They're going to integrate them?
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And then they're going to keep a couple of them,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: of the new, and I'm going to predict Aaron and Jenna.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: And then maybe like one new person that's like in between.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And that'll be the new cast of New York. It'll
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: be like Luann, Sonia, and Dorinda. It will not be Ramona.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I really do feel like Ramona has moved on. She's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: got a boyfriend. It's like, I just don't think we
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: have Ramona. But Dorinda and Luann are real friends. And
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: so is Sonia. So I think the three of them,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: they don't hate each other. They can work together. So
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I think the three of them are coming back with
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Jenna Lyons. Maybe this Erin, even though she's young, she's
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: kind of an old soul. And then like one new
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: person will be cast.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Are you canning Brynn? Because she has Sonya energy. Would
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: they be fun together or would that just be really annoying?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't I don't know I
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: don't know yeah yeah but that's I agree Brynn has
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a personality you know she wanted to be on Vanderpump
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: so I definitely think she's coming with her fake fur
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: coat and she's she's almost practicing stuff before she walks
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: in very Aviva like Aviva used to like write out
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: her stuff so I've heard allegedly like before, you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: so she planned the leg throwing, like, I think she's
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: kind of planning her moments, which I don't blame her. Yeah.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm an actress and a writer, if I
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: was suddenly on a show and I also studied reality
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: show for the last 20 years and I'm coming to
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: a dinner party of yours, I would kind of be like, okay,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: what are we going to cover today? I want to
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: cover that. My specials coming out, you know, in, in
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: January in which the show will be airing starting December.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: So I definitely want to mention that special.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: And then I want to also, you know, Adam was
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: pissed at me about this one thing. So let me
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: bring it up. So we have a little tip, but
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: we can make up. I mean, how can you not?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And if I don't think of it, the producer is
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: going to remind me of that, you know, so like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: it is going to come up.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: You know, what's scary about you is you have like
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: this and I feel like I'm starting to notice I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: have this shit, too. It's like you have these real
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: manifesting abilities and you come out with these predictions and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: you're like, then all of a sudden it's like maybe
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: a month later, maybe it's a week later. You don't
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: put a timeline on it. Maybe it's a year later.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: And you're like, I fucking told you. I told you.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: I said it. I predicted it. Cue the video right here.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: I'm the one who told you this was going to happen.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: So now I just believe this is what's happening. We
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: have to say goodbye to Uba, Jessel.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: No, Uba's pretty fun though. But I feel like she,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I still don't really like know the depths of her
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't have A real like she doesn't have
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: a kid. She doesn't. Right. She's not married.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I do think she is funny
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: and likable.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I don't think we'll
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: keep them all as my point. Oh, see, we saw
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Heather Dubrow's penthouse.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: And I talked about this on my Patreon, but like.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: You don't– this storyline of I'm back moving to LA
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: that you have to buy a $ 14 million penthouse so
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: that you can be bright-eyed and bushy-tailed to read for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: a five-line.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: A Robert Cavalli designer penthouse.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Part on a Warner Brothers sitcom. Like it's just so stupid.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: So this prediction comes from a juicy scooper and I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: don't remember who told me. So I can't take full advantage.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Remember she talked about Heather saying, oh my God, you know,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: my son, what's the boy's name? Heather's son's name.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Nick is getting his real estate license, you know, and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: then he's the only one that comes over to look
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: at the place.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Look at the house. And he's like, this is a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: nice place. I love it. And they're oohing and aahing
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: over it, which by the way, just, I don't think
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: it photographed that well. It seemed small and, and kind
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: of weird.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: For 5,000 square feet. It did.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: It just, it doesn't photograph. I'm sure it's prettier in person, whatever.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: It's got to be the textures, you know, like the feeling.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: So I think she's planting the seeds for him to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: get into real estate when he graduates from college and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: have his own real estate show.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like she's always trying to push that.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: And then Max, her daughter, just did a song. Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: And actually not bad.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Not bad. I actually didn't listen to it, but it's not.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: It wasn't bad. Like my sister and I both listened
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: to it. I'm like, this isn't bad, but it is,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the auto-tune and all that. So it's not
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like she wrote it in her dorm room and was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: playing a guitar like, Taylor Swift.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: So what? I don't know. Maybe she's... Maybe that's part
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: She's doing her Sheena energy.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing, like, all this kind of stuff.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: But.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, my favorite is just thank God for Shannon
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Bedore and, you know, and her spreading rumors about herself
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: and talking with her hands because that's the show. If
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Shannon Bedore was not on this show, nobody would be
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: watching this show this season, in my opinion.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: You know... It's funny because I have sort of a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: weird connection with this cast.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Yes. Can't be as weird as mine, but go ahead.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, no, no. Don't try to top it. No, no, no.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: It's definitely not. Yeah. So Tamara and I, I think
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: I was supposed to go to happy hour with her today.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: We were going back and forth. But she, of course,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: does two Ts in a pod. And I find Teddy
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Mellencamp to just not be great reality TV. And that's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: okay because I don't think I'd be great reality TV otherwise.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: And I think that she was good with the podcast.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: I agree. So I would go on and I would
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: do videos and I would talk about things that.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: By the way, I do want to say, Teddy, I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: just saw her on Nick Biles show. And I did
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: not know who she was. She looked completely different, but
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: in a beautiful way.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. She's beautiful before.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And this new face is beautiful, but I don't know
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know what it is. Like,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: she really doesn't look like herself. All the comments were like,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't know who this was.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: Do you remember Legally Blonde? I don't know what she.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I know that sometimes with a lower facelift, it almost
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: takes a year to get done. So you can really,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you end up looking better and better and better. And
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I know she did that. She was honest about it.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: There's something different about the eyes. Now, what she might
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: have done, honestly.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, the eyelid.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: No, the eyelid or probably the eyelid, but also it's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: those drops. There's these drops that change the shape of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: your eye.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: What the fuck is that?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And my friend gave it to me and I put
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: them in and I looked so different. And I like
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: my eyes. I have no problem with the shape of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: my eyes.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out which one I like better
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: right now because this one has an allergic reaction.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: You might just put one drop.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: But it literally, it makes them bigger, but it's sort of,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: so you have small eyes, I guess, but I already
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: have big eyes. And I just was like, I don't
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: want to fuck with this. I just like the one
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: with the purple cap that you get at Target.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I like Lumify.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Lumify.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: It just makes them, takes any kind of red away
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: really well.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just brought Visine in here with me.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that stuff is good. But anyway, I don't
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: know if that's it because it was like her eyes
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: look different now. She's always had a really nice, I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: don't know what, but she looked very different. Good for her.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: She's very pretty in my opinion. So it's like, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: she looks prettier now. She looked prettier before.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: But do you remember, do you remember Legally Blonde? Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: And do you remember when the girl had the alibi?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: And she's like, she's like, Yes. I was getting, and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: she's like, it's like, okay, we're, we also have, we're
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: an accountability coach and we're holding people accountable. But then
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: you were talking about like getting certain words.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It all, did she get lipos?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: No, no, I don't think she did lipos.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: She did.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know what she did, but at the end
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: of the day, my thing is.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I really wonder with, with the, you know, and I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: feel like people are very much more accepting, um, of
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: anybody doing kind of any Ozempic or Majaro.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Or, or yeah, just get your work done.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: So, um, now I think people have chilled out about,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I think the people were, were keeping it a secret
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: because the minute you were a celebrity and you said,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I did lose these 30 pounds because I've
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: been taking this for a year. You're taking it from,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: you know, like as if like skinny housewives are some
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: poor diabetic is getting out of the car at the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: handicapped and going to get his prescription and a housewife
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: swoops in and take the, takes the last amount. And,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: you know, that's not what was happening. And, it seems
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: to be that everybody seems to be able to get
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: their medicine. I don't know. I'm not a hundred percent sure,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: but I feel like now people are being a little
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: more honest about if they're taking it or not. And,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: and they're not getting as much of a backlash from
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: like the audience. And I'm curious, does she even have
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: to like, why would you have to spend $ 600 a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: week to have Teddy tell you, you can only have
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: two carrots, not three when you can just take this
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: shot and just be less hungry.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, I saw less money. I saw Ozempic for
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: the first time the other day. I went in my
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: dad's fridge and it was in there. And I was like, dad,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: are you on Ozempic? And he's like, son, I don't
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: know what the fuck you're talking about. That's my diabetes medication.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: He's like, I'm pre-diabetic. And I was like, my dad's
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: like a bona fide housewife. Look at him go. But
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: good for them. Yeah.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, my God. God made plastic surgeons and scientists too.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: So if something is better and easy for us, no
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: one's taking a shortcut. But I'm just curious if she
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: is even pursuing that business, being that she's busy with
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: her podcast business. And also just, I don't know why
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: someone would go do a business that's just someone texting you,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: being mean to you on a text, to tell you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: to take 500 calories.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: When you could just- Let me be the villain in
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: this story. I'll do it for free.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: I'll mean rage text you.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: But does she even promote that business anymore? Do we know?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. But you know what? They do
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: do great.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, even Tamara saw the writing on the wall
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: that got rid of the gym.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Fuck that.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Just take a shot and take my CBD, gummy. And
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: be happy. Don't be hungry and pass out.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: She messaged me on Instagram and she's like, why do
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: I always feel like you make me sound like an asshole?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: I was like, no, I think that you sometimes make
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: yourself sound like an asshole. And then I talk about
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: you being an asshole, but I really like you. And
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: I think that you're great for the show. But if
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: you're an asshole, that's okay. You know, and I had
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: the most awkward interaction with Shannon Bedore. And this was
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: at BravoCon. And I had to go on an apology
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: tour with Gina. And this was also at BravoCon because
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: I did a sit down with a former housewife of
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: OC and Kelly Dodd.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: And we ended up talking and she knew that I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: was renovating my house at the time. And she said, oh,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: what's your style? So she was friends with Shannon and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: she's like, oh my God, that's what Shannon's kitchen looks like.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: Let's call her after this interview and let's go right
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: over there. She lives like right down the road. Okay.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: So- I thought that they were fully friends. Then I
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: get to BravoCon and I introduced myself and I was like, hi,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: I was actually on the phone.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: So you never did go to the house?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: We never went to the house. So I introduced myself
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: and I said, you know, I talked to you. or
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: Kelly talked to you on the phone and I was
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: there and I was the guy who was coming to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: see your kitchen. And she goes, what?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: You know, like kind of what? I don't know who
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: you are. I don't know who the fuck you are.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Up and Adam, down and I don't know.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: She's like down and out.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: All I know is that I was a very good
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: friend to Kelly. I was an excellent friend. I was there.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know why people are saying things. I don't
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: know what, I don't know what's happening.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: This is my goddamn plate. It was, I didn't realize,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: but you know how like everything moves so fast in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: this world, right? They're friends today, tomorrow they're not.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: And also in a BravoCon situation, there's so many people
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: coming at it. I mean, it is like, it's overstimulation between,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: for the stars, for people like you and me, and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: for the fans. It is just a lot. Someone just
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: wrote something that someone sent to me that, I was
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: so rude at BravoCon, and then I was walking through
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the New York one, and I had a phone, and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I was ignoring fans. Well, okay. You know, I'm lucky
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: enough that I'm not a Bravo, but people recognize me.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: And so when I was trying to actually go to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: an event, people were asking for photos, and I was
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: taking them, but I really had to be somewhere. So
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: at a certain point, how am I going to get
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: there if I took a– photo with every single person
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm not blowing someone off. There literally isn't enough time.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: And I, and I hadn't eaten all day. And I
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: literally was saying to people, you guys, you saw me
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: faint on stage at Tempe. If I don't eat something,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I am not. And I get it. I know I'm, they,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: they just want a picture. Yeah. They don't care about me.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, some of them do, but some of them don't.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Some of it is just like, how many pictures can
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I collect of the celebrities? And I totally get that.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: But I also, at a certain point, I'm like, And
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: it's not me thinking I'm fucking, you know, whatever, Julia Roberts.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: It's not. And so, but it's like, you can't please people.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I also think if she was rude
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: or she was, it's like sometimes so many people were
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: probably coming at her.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't find it to be like so rude. I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: just found it to be like. oh, fuck, I didn't
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: know that there was a disconnect and, like, you guys
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: are no longer friends because you looked at me like, oh, shit.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: They can be friends one day and not, like, you don't.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: Know, like, throughout the years. It, like, switches.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: But also I want to say really quick about the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: whole people, you know, like, having that opinion and being like,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: she's rude. I just watched this on Saturday when I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: went to serve for the brunch. Yeah. And I see
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: people walking up to Lisa. I see people walking up
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: to Sheena. And one of the things that I just
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: want to tell anybody, if you are going up to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: people and you're asking, can I take a photo? just
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: have the fucking camera ready. Have the photo app open.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: Now can I take a photo, then pull out our
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: phone and then fucking like, oh shit, sorry, it's on video.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: I made this mistake when I was 18. Hoda Kotb
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: was jogging down in New York City. I was visiting
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: for the first time, bright eyed, bushy tail, and I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: chased after her. And I'm starting to jog after Hoda Kotb.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know who, my uncle said, that's Hoda Kotb.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: So I start running and then I said, can I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: take a photo with you? And I had it on
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: video and I'm like, oh shit, sorry, sorry, hold on,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: let me, can I just, fuck. And then I finally
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: got the photo. And now looking back, I'm like, I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: am that asshole. Like, just have your camera app open.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: And honestly, you may have never thought of that. So, yeah,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I would just say that, you know, like most of
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: us are really going to be happy. We're out in public.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: We want to be recognized. We're going to be nice
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: about it. Um, but like, yeah. And the other thing,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: and I, and I listen, I, and I've told my
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: story of when I walked and squatted down with Jerry
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Seinfeld and totally overstayed my welcome. And I still haunts
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: me to this day. So like, I've been the person too,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: that hasn't thought about the fact that, Hey, these two
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: people are at a restaurant. They, they met, they want to,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: they're chatting. They're in the middle of a conversation. They
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: want to finish it. They're happy to acknowledge that you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: like their show and they're happy to take a photo,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: but like, That doesn't make them an asshole that they
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: want to finish the conversation with their friend. You don't
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: know what they're talking about. You don't know if someone's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: bleak to telling like, oh, my God, Adam, I'm so
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: glad you're here. You know, last week, the funeral for
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: my mom was this. And then someone walks in and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: is like, hi, sorry, I'm a really big, you know,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just think people have to also just
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: know that that these people still have a right to
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: have a meal in public. and like have a nice time.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: And they may be going through something harder. I think
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: there was a little bit of that last night to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: be fair, right? There was just a different instance where,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: you know, there was something that we were, we were
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: talking about the show. We were going over something and then,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: you know, like it's kind of a similar situation, but yeah,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: it is sometimes.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: And, you know, I know the intention is so good.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: The intention is totally good. I would just say also
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: just be a little bit aware of that as well.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: But I always tell people like you could absolutely come
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: up to me, ask for a picture, whatever. Um, you know,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: and if I go out, I know that's the case
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: and I would never say no, but I also want
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: to be, you know, have you be sensitive to other
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: people that maybe are really having a real deep conversation
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: or not in the mood or whatever, you know, and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make them an asshole that, you know, or
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: rude or don't write up to do a TikTok about
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: them or do it in law. Like let them just
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: have dinner with their friend. Like it's just, you know,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: it's okay.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: I was out at Javier's and Heather's an asshole.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the people that kind of see you And
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: they kind of do wait for the opportunity of you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: walking to the bathroom or seeing you wait for your car.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Those are times you absolutely can approach someone. I think,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? There's time. There's a five
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: minutes you're waiting for your car. That's a great time
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: to go and ask, Oh my God. Hi, can I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: get a photo? Cause you're not interrupting a conversation. There's time.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: They are dressed. They're cute. They went out in public.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just, you know, it's so funny. It's I completely,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: when I come to LA and like, yes, well, like,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: in that situation yesterday and talking about, you know, scandal
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: and stuff on YouTube. When I come to LA, it's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: very different than living in Florida.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: And Florida, it's like, I don't fucking know anything about
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: you and you do YouTube. Like what's your real job
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: and all of these things.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: And then when you come into LA, it's like, Hey,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: I've been at them. And it's, it's not like, it's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: not all the time, you know, but, but especially if
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: I put myself around them, you know, then I know
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: that there, there are going to be those little fun
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: moments like last night. And it's really fun. I just,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: I get so excited when anybody is like, but also
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: it's because then I go back to my little shell
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: of a shithole back in Florida. And then I sit
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: there and it's like, I don't know who the fuck
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: you are. And I'm like, that's good with me. It's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: like my retreat.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I just thought this was kind of a funny story.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: This woman's been missing for eight years. She's fine. She
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: didn't realize she was on the missing. Her family said
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: she was missing. She didn't have children or a husband.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: She just really didn't want to fuck with her family.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: She didn't know.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: What? What?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: They found this woman and they're like, you've been on
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: the missing list for eight years. And she's like, I have.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Her family put her on missing because she just was
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: done with them, in my opinion, and like wasn't keeping
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: in touch. But she wasn't kidnapped. She wasn't harmed. Like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: she just didn't want to fuck with them.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: I thought I was going to be on the missing
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: list last night, to be honest with you. So this
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: is something that shit. Maybe. Oh, I have, that's a
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: totally different story. I gotta tell you about this. I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: gotta tell you.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Tell the story.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Okay. So last night after we end up leaving, you know,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: and everybody goes home, right? There was the bottle service,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: all of that. It was a great night. Everybody's having fun. Well,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: we got back to the hotel and I went to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: call my mom. I talked to, my mom's at my
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: house watching my dogs and I just went to call
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: her and give her a recap of the night. And
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: I take my AirPods and I told Jason, I said,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going back outside and I'm going to walk because
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: I know you're going to sleep. Well, when we got there,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: we left our hotel key at the bourbon room with
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: my Ray-Bans. And we had to go up to the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: front desk when we first got back to the hotel,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: the Kempton, Beverly Hills. I'm giving you a shout out
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: because I want a free night.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: And they had to change our room key. So then
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: I walk out after changing the room key, grab the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: old room key off the dresser and 30 minutes come back.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Now it doesn't work.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: Now it doesn't work. And your husband's asleep. My husband's
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: passed out. Right. He enjoyed the night, right?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: I go downstairs. There's this really bitchy man who I
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: was like, hi, hi. I was just down here with
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: my husband. You saw me. Literally, you saw me. And
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: he changed our room keys. I said, I just need
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: another key. He fell asleep. And he's like, long night.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, you can say that. And
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, he said, I need your ID. I
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: handed him my ID. And he's like, doesn't say Jason
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: on it. And I was like, right. And he's like,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: your name's not on the room. And I was like, okay,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: but that card with my LLC on it, that my
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: business card that's attached to this account, it's my business card.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: I'm married. Do you need photo? What do you need?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: I said, I also have my husband's email on my phone.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: I can show you the reservation, everything. He's like, sir,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: I need you to relax right now. There are people
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: who come here and cheat on their spouses all the time.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: And we can't just let you go barge in the room.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: And I was like, what kind of fucking what kind
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: of story is that? Right. And he's like, I need
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: you to relax right now. And I was like, he said,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: do you want me to call the room? I said, oh,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: it's funny that you say that, Kenton Beverly Hills, because
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: earlier that afternoon, I forgot shaving cream. So I called
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: down to the hotel or to the lobby. I tried
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: to call down. And my phone isn't working.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: The phone in the room.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: The phone in the room.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: So then I went down there and I was like, hey,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: I was just trying to call you guys, but I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: guess my phone in the room is not working. They said,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: do you want us to send somebody up to switch
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: out the phone? I said, no, I'm headed out and
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: I have all my shit everywhere. I don't want you
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: guys going in my room. That's why there's the do
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: not clean right now. So no, they didn't go switch
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: to the phone. So now, of course, the phone doesn't
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: work for him to call up to wake Jason up.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: And I'm telling him this. And I said, what are you,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: can you do a wellness check? Can you open the door?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: He's like, would you like me to call the police
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: to do a wellness check? And then I said, no,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: can you just go open the door? This is my room.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: And I said, you just. saw me. He's like, I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: don't remember seeing you. I was like, really? Really? And
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: so then he said, sir, you need to back away
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: from the desk or I'm calling the police and I'm
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: telling them you're harassing me. And I was like, so
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: I look at my phone. My phone is on 6%.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: I have my mom on the phone like, this is ridiculous.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: My mom's like, Adam, what is going on? I have
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: my wallet, everything. I'm walking at like two o'clock in
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: the morning through Beverly Hills. I find myself, I don't
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: even know what the hotel was called. It was a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: motel next to like a Crackle Barrel or something, an
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: IHOP or something, some shitty hotel. I took a photo
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: of it. I have to show you. There's a little
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: AC unit in the window, these plaid, awful like curtains
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: and this bed, totally probably a bed bug something. And
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: I probably, maybe that's why I'm itchy. But then all
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: of a sudden at 530 in the morning, I wake
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: up to a text because I asked the guy downstairs,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: do you have a charger? And he's like, I don't
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: think anybody here has iPhones. And let me see if
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: there's one in the lost and found.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: At the bad hotel.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: At the bad hotel. And so he found one. He's like, oh, look,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: I have one right here. I was like, oh, thank you.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: So you're at the crappy hotel. You have a phone charger.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: 530 in the morning. I look up my phone. My mom,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: are you alive? Yes, mom. And then Jason.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Don't ever go, yes, mom. That is all we care
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: about is that.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: Our kid is alive. No, no, I mean like.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: Not in a bad way.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I know, but as a mother.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: No, I love, my mom is my best friend.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: But then Jason, hey, where are you? Where am I?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: I've been through a total fucking shit show after literally
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: doing Sheena's show, having a great night, Tara fucking Reed
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: and her bullshit and everything else.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Fighting Tom Sandoval's new girlfriend.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: And now you saw me today. I'm walking all bow-legged
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: and shit from these heels. I brought new shoes here.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Not heels, but shoes. Shoes that look like my heels.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: This is, oh my God, it's crazy. I have two
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: quick stories. One is a Josh Wolfe story, the comedian
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Josh Wolfe. He had something happen where his wife, you know,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: was traveling with him and she went to the room
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: and same thing, didn't have a key or whatever. And
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: his name was not on the room and she passed
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: out and was asleep. And then, so he had to
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: get another room and she's waking up in the middle
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: of the night. And she's like that motherfucker, like, what
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: is he doing? Cheating on me? Like, what is, where
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: is he? All this awful stuff. So that's happened. Definitely
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: the moral of the story is make sure that whoever
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: is in the room, that both of your names are
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: on it, regardless of the card, regardless of who, if
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: you went through the hotel or Expedia, I always make
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: sure when my husband's joining, Peter is on it or
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: my son or whatever or vice versa. The other thing
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: that happened when I was like 20, I was in
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, I was 22 or something, and we were
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: there for like the SC Stanford game and we were
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: staying at my friend's aunt's place and we like, I
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: didn't know where they, I was hanging out with some
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: people They already went back and it was like this
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: gate and I couldn't get in the gate. And this
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: is like before cell phones. And I didn't know where
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: I was going to go. And I had no credit
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: card or any money. And so these guys come and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: the guy's like, I'm like, I think I just got
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: to stay at this hotel. And so this guy paid
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: for my hotel and I'm like, okay, bye. And I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: like locked the door and he's like trying to get in.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, just leave me alone. It was so awful.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: So scary. But it was a very similar, awful thing.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: So I'm saying, It's a learning curve.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I also always ask for like four keys.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: And then make sure that everybody is on the name.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: Well, then once he, when he switched the key, it deactivated.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Right, no, I understand that because the key didn't work,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: but like, yeah.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: One more question I wanted to ask because there's all
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: this stuff that's happening with the divorce between Kevin Costner
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: and Christine. She says the 129 is not sufficient for
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: her child support. She said when they met, he was
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: worth a hundred million. Now he's worth 400 million. So
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: it has to be adjusted. you know, the kids, this
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: isn't a custody thing, but you started to tell me
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: a story about you and I did, and you were
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: fine to share it. And I do think this is
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: an interesting situation about, cause you're a child of divorce. Yes.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: So what happened?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: Okay. So, um, this is funny. Um, 129,000, that is
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: definitely not enough for anybody to raise a kid. Holy shit. Um,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: a month, a month. Um, my mom, actually my mom
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: and my dad, um, they were already divorced, but My
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: dad and her, they had joint custody. Well, my dad,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: a long time ago, he, when my mom was pregnant
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: with me, he ended up leaving her and had this girlfriend.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: She was a psychopath. And then years later, when I'm 13,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: he ended up leaving his new wife for this woman.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: My mom hated this woman. She like triggered her. So
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: my dad's like, you know what? You're causing problems in
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: my life. I'm moving my son from Palm Beach, Florida
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: to Chattanooga, Tennessee. And there's nothing you can do about it.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: My mom was like, okay, I'm taking you to court.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Now, were you the only child of your mom's?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: I'm the only child between my mom and my dad.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: And then they have other children. Okay. But so my
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: dad said, I'm taking him to Tennessee. They both lawyered up. Well,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: come to find out, my dad's attorney was the same attorney.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: I believe her name is Christy, who... who represented whoever
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: to get Anna Nicole Smith to her body to the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: Bahamas next to her son, Daniel. And my mom sat
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: in a mediation room across from this woman. She was
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: a shark. And she started talking about how my mom
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: was not capable of taking care of me because she
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: already has two kids and she worked two jobs. My
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: mom was a career server and she was always hustling,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: always working. You She's talking about– So.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: The only reason that she was saying that she was
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: not qualified is just because she really wasn't wealthy. There
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: was no drugs.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: And my dad made a lot more money.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: But there was no drugs.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: No drugs, no alcohol, like none of that. None of that.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: It was just like you are a working mom and
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: his dad can give him a better life. Well, the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: way that she was presenting it, they– I just learned
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: this from my dad. They went in there and my
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: dad said if you press on her, you press on her,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: like you will trigger her. She'll snap. And you'll get
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: a reaction. She'll snap. That's exactly what they did. So
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: my mom, it was like a Shannon Medora. It's on
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: my fucking plate, you bitch.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: And like, she's like, you fucking bitch. And called her
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: every name in the book.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Your mom called the attorney a bitch.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: A bitch. And she looked at my dad and she
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: looked at my mom and she's like, okay. She's like,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: I'm waiving all of the fees and you just made
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: this personal. You're losing your kid. And whoa, it was
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: literally like a month later, full custody. I was in
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: the back of a van and I am getting drove,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: like driven to Tennessee and And I left and I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: went from seeing my mom three out of the seven
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: days a week. And she would pick me up and
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: all of that to seeing her for seven days for
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Christmas and a month and a half for summer. But
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: then my evil stepmom would make me come back the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: second half because I would have to readjust to what
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: life was with rules and regulations. So I would only
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: get such a limited time with her until I was 18.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: I hate this story. But going back... No, because it just... Like,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: it wasn't fair, you know? So going back to it,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: it's just like... I know. She's just like my best friend.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: And like now, everything that I do, whether it's like
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: when I moved to New York or Florida, I just
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: have her with me everywhere. And I want her to
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: be a part of everything that I do.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Because you missed all that time.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: Because I missed it.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: So that is not what I intended. Sorry. Sorry. I'm
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: a cancer.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: But I honestly... I wanted you to tell the story
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: because you mentioned it briefly before we started the show.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: And I said, are you okay talking about it? And
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: I wanted you to talk about it because, I mean, I'm,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever. I just talked to so many people
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: and I think we don't hear enough from adults that
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: lived through the divorce and lived through the custody and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: lived through the things and their perspective. And I think
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: their perspective is really important that people hear that that
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: might be going through that today. And I'm not saying
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: there's a way to get out of it as a
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: parent that's, you know, at odds with their ex about custody,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: but like, you know, and, and the, and the splitting
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: of time and like, you know, one thing I said
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: was when they, when you do live in the same
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: town and you split the week and a half and stuff,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: how I brought it once up on a show and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: people were like, I'm so glad you brought that up
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: because it was awful. And I, You're right. It would
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: be better if we could go back more to the
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: more traditional of like, the mom has a kid during
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: the week and the dad is the Disneyland dad or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: And I think there was something that happened where it
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: was like, no, fathers should have rights. And I agree
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: with that. But at the same time, it's like, I
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think the family system is really, unfortunately,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: it's like they tried to make strides one way. And
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: in the end, it's always just the kids that miss out. Yeah.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: It's just like, it's really... unfortunate how heartbreaking that must
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: have been you would have wanted to be with your
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: mom in retrospect and not not then it's not like
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: you had a choice.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: Well the problem was and like and my dad and
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: i feel so bad because the woman like i it
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: was i haven't gone to therapy for this sort of
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: thing you just did right here yeah yeah yeah yeah
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: yeah but the woman who he had um she really
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: did like she tortured me like torture like physically mentally
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: emotionally and Like with food, there was a lot of things.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: What do you mean she wouldn't let you eat? No,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: she would pick things that I couldn't eat or that whatever,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: and that would be dinner for the night. And if
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't eat it, then I didn't eat.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Like a mommy dearest with the steak?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, like psycho. And then her kids would get chicken
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: tenders and pizza. And then there was one time where
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: she poured a bowl of like hot chili on my chest, right?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: And I had a mark. Still right here, I still
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: have a mark. And then there was another time when
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: we moved up to Tennessee. My mom wrote in this
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: journal every day for the summer when she was in
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: between her breaks. And it was this little book. And
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: I remember finding it because it was in her compartment
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: in the middle of her car. And it was just
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: every day her writing how much she loved me. I'm like,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about you. And it was supposed to be positive.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: And she would take photos with those little things like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: and it spits out the photo right away.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Polaroid.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Polaroid. And she all of these things. Well, Wendy
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: took that and she burned all the photos of her.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: She took the book. So I didn't have that.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: You took the book. It was your in your possession.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah. My mom gave it to me when I left.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She destroyed your mother's book.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: She destroyed the book. She destroyed all the photos. I
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: came home and my laptop with all of my photos
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: of my mom and my brothers. It was floating underneath.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: It was in the bathtub.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: And what would your dad say about all this stuff?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Well, she would manipulate my dad. And my dad... So
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: my dad had... Like, he really... She had a handle
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: on him.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: She was truly the evil stepmother.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: She really was. And she would say, you know, like,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: I didn't do that. Your son, he's just mad that
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: you're not with his mom. He thinks you guys are
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: going to get back together. He's doing... Like, Derek, you
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: can obviously see that this is a problem. But my dad...
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: The reason I didn't want to live with my dad
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: at the time was my dad's a workaholic. He worked
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: 80 hours a week.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: He works.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: you know, climbing telephone poles and just like all of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: these other things that he did. And he had his
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: own business. He was never home. So if I wanted
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: to bond with my dad, I would sit in his
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: work truck while he was working. And those were my
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: moments with dad. So usually I was with her and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: that's why I didn't understand why I had to go
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: live with her because she was raising me. And going
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: back to it, I said to her, because my mom
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: would write me a letter every single day in the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: mail and stick it in the mail and put money
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: in for food and stuff because she knew that I
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: wasn't eating and she knew everything that was happening. It
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: was terrible.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine if my son was going through this.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: So then I set the bitch up and I was like, oh,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get her. My dad pulled me out
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: of school one day early and he said, son, will
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: you go check the mailbox? He's like, pull over because Tennessee,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: you live on a couple acres, right? Mailbox is way
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: at the fucking end of the street. And we open
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: the mailbox and there's a card from my mom, right?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: So I was like, dad, dad, dad, this is the moment.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: I kept telling him she is stealing my mail from
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: my mom. No, she's not. She wouldn't do that. I'm like, dad,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. Mom's not lying to me. She's sending
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: me things. And he's like, okay, you want to do that?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: We'll do it. So we put the mail back in
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: the mailbox. And then my dad said, you know what? Shit, son.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: I need to go get a part really quick from Walmart.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go to Walmart. And I said, I'm
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: going to sit here and stare at this mailbox. And
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting. Comes in.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: So you're like hiding, staring at it?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: I'm looking out the window.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Watching her. She pulls up in this excursion and it
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: says her name and last name Waite. Because it was
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: all about her way. And she pulls up, grabs the mail,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: and then she comes up and I walk up and
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: let's just call her asshole. So I was like, hi, asshole.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Did I get any mail from my mom? Don't you
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: think if you had a letter, I would fucking tell you?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Get out of my face. And I was like, okay, well,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: have a good day. And I was like, I got you.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: I got you. My dad comes home 10 minutes later
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: and I said to him, what happened? And he's like,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: How do I know that you didn't go back when
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: I went to Walmart and took it out to frame her?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: And I was like, you got to be kidding. Well,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: then eventually my dad and her got a divorce. My
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: dad ended up leaving her and she left all of
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: her stuff in our house. And it was just that
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: was my time to get even. She had a really
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: bad eBay addiction. She bought all designer things. I literally
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: took bleach to everything. It was like I couldn't get...
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: I knew she was out of my life. I took
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: her camera. I slammed the camera on the ground. I
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: did everything to her that she did to me now
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: that I knew that my dad had moved on. He
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: found a new woman and he wasn't into her anymore.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: I was safe. This is like, oh, now it's time.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: I literally barricaded. We had a tri-level house.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Did you ever find any of the letters?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, she probably just threw them away.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: No, she would take the money out of them and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: then she would throw them away. Yeah, everything.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: It just now come to find out she reached out
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: to me two years ago and apologized for torturing me legitimately.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: What did she say?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: She said, you know, I just I want to say
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: I saw you on YouTube. And I was like, oh,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: and she's like, I want to say that I'm so
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: sorry for everything. And I was like, I don't forgive
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: you ever for that because of how long it was.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: And I'm not a victim or a martyr. My husband
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: taught me that. Like when I met him, I met
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: him at 20. And he said, you can't make your
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: life about this. You're free from that. You're safe now.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: So now you live your life. You're not a victim.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: And it was so true. You know?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I just, as a mom of boys too, especially of anybody,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: boy or girl, to think that my kid was going
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: for your mom to know that she was sending all
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: this to you. And that she financially couldn't win. Yeah.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: And that this woman was torturing her son and you'll
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: never get those. I'm so glad that you're close now.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: But it fucking infuriates me. It infuriates me whenever I
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: see anything about any child abuse. Yeah. I mean, it's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: child abuse. It was absolutely horrific. And I don't care
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: that this woman now realizes it.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that she will have some type
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: of penance and is making up for it in some
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: other good way for the torture that she put you through.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: But- Wow. That is such an awful story.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: Well, it breaks my heart now because now my dad
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: apologizes to me for it all the time.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: For not listening. And how awful for your dad. Just
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: like a woman that brings in a man who tortures
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: their kids or molests their kids or whatever, and the
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: woman thought this guy was going to be a great
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: father figure. I always feel really bad for the parent
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: that didn't know or didn't believe.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: That's got to be torture for them too.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Well, and I was always a liar, right? But now
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: that he knows, it's like, and I do feel bad
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: now because now he always feels guilty for it. And
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: my mom's like, I told you that bitch was crazy.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: I told you. And my mom is just like, my
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: mom is like, sweet home Alabama. You don't mess with mama.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: That is how she is. She's sharp on the tongue
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: and she's witty. And she's like, if I see that
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: bitch one day, like if I ever see her and
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, it's like, it was like when Bethany said, like,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: I would murder somebody.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: That acting is like, I would kill someone.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, my mom really would kill somebody.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: This really, I would.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: In this situation, like, you know, but again, I'm not
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: a victim, not a martyr, but it is like, wow.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: It's just looking back.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: Bethany.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Well, we've talked for a really long time. We had
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: some fun. We got some juice.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: We got some heart. Might be a perfect episode.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: Sorry. It was awesome.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. I adore you. Tell everybody if they're
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: not aware of how they can follow you and find
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: you and all that good stuff.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You guys can find me on Up and Atom
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: Live on YouTube. And then we have Up and Atom
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: Live 2 now, which is like our messy little sister
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: channel where we have all of the spillover content because
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: we just pump out a lot and People don't know this,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: but after a certain amount of videos on YouTube, the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: algorithm like suppresses your content and it doesn't push it
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: out the same. So it's like, okay, so then we
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: need a second channel. So Up and Atom Live 1
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: and 2.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: That is awesome. Thank you for being so open and sharing.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that we're friends.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. Jason always says to me, he's like,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: you're too much of an open book, but this felt
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: like therapy. I feel good.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to touch... a lot of people's heart,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: whether they were a victim as a child or they
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: were a victim of a horrible court system. So you
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: might be hearing a lot, but I just think the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: fact that you're doing so great today and the fact
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: that you have a great relationship with your mom and
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: your dad, you won, even though you had to suffer
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: through so much. Maybe that's why you are a nice,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: successful person too.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'll keep you around Heather. And thank you for
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: having me. Thank you for having me. And just like,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: It's always just, it's great to see you. Seeing you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: last night and then just being, I was so excited
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: because the first time I came here, I was so nervous.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: And this time I was just like, let's do the
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: damn thing. Fuck shit up. Juicy scoop. Good. Yeah.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: Love you. Bye.
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