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- 0:57Speaker 1: Triumph Channel one thirty two. A gorgeous young doctor, the
- 1:06Speaker 1: mother of two, goes out of town with her entire
- 1:09Speaker 1: family for our family get together many many states away.
- 1:14Speaker 1: She comes back that Sunday night so she can see
- 1:17Speaker 1: patients the following Monday morning, leaving her two little girls
- 1:20Speaker 1: and husband behind with her family at their reunion. It
- 1:25Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be. She is found dead, brutally beaten.
- 1:33Speaker 1: The bloody hammer used to kill her. Soon discovered who
- 1:40Speaker 1: murdered Dr Teresa Severs, who took her away from her
- 1:45Speaker 1: two little girls to grow up without a mother. I'm
- 1:49Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
- 1:52Speaker 1: with us. The murder, the brutal murder of doctor Teresa Severs,
- 1:56Speaker 1: sent shot waves through the quiet, Florida community in which
- 2:00Speaker 1: she lived. That gated community had never seen anything like it.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Her clients, her patients, began morning as cops began looking
- 2:11Speaker 1: for answers. It all starts right here with a nine
- 2:15Speaker 1: one one call. What does it reveal? One? When is
- 2:19Speaker 1: your emergency? Uh I had a friend's house, so he's
- 2:23Speaker 1: out of town and I came here and she's been
- 2:27Speaker 1: on the floor. Okay, hold on the line. Okay, you're
- 2:34Speaker 1: doing very well. Good job. It's the moment we're going
- 2:37Speaker 1: to connect you. They're going to ask for the addrouns Empire.
- 2:45Speaker 1: What is he addressed in the emergency for Jarvis Road? Okay?
- 2:53Speaker 1: And is that a house for in apartment? Sir? What's
- 2:56Speaker 1: the phone number you're calling from? Me? Exactly what happened?
- 3:00Speaker 1: My friend? Uh Risa Seebers, she's a doctor. I'm a doctor.
- 3:05Speaker 1: She came home last night. Her husband is in Connecticut,
- 3:11Speaker 1: and she was supposed to go at nine o'clock. He
- 3:13Speaker 1: called me, and I was on my way in the works.
- 3:15Speaker 1: I swung by and she's down and there's a hammer
- 3:19Speaker 1: at the side and she's bashed in back of her head. Okay,
- 3:25Speaker 1: all right, samlon here, okay, yes, Sam, I'm um shut office.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Are you on the way, yes, yeah, okay. And so
- 3:34Speaker 1: you said you're a doctor, yes I am. Okay, are
- 3:37Speaker 1: you with her now? I'm outside of the house because
- 3:40Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody in the house. Okay,
- 3:43Speaker 1: all right? For hia, she said this pie all right, sir?
- 3:49Speaker 1: And is she away? No, she's got little more. She's cold,
- 3:55Speaker 1: back to her basting and there's blood everywhere. Okay, all right.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So I do have paramedics, fire department also law enforcement
- 4:06Speaker 1: is on the line where that's okay, they're going to
- 4:08Speaker 1: be going out, okay, okay, if it want you to
- 4:11Speaker 1: stay on the line one moment, sure, I'm gonna say
- 4:14Speaker 1: until I get here, because you know, I don't know
- 4:17Speaker 1: if here in this help. Okay, all right, was right?
- 4:22Speaker 1: If it stay on the line, okay. A sheriff office
- 4:24Speaker 1: has questions and they're going to continue on what to
- 4:27Speaker 1: do next. So, okay, are you inside the residence? Then no,
- 4:31Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm standing in the driveway. Okay. And then
- 4:33Speaker 1: when you walked inside this house, she said the blood
- 4:35Speaker 1: was dryer. What did you say that half the blood
- 4:38Speaker 1: is drying? Happens? She's called She's dead cold, joining me
- 4:42Speaker 1: right now out of port Charlotte, Florida Expert Crime Stories,
- 4:47Speaker 1: contributing reporter Bob Alexander. If you look carefully at the photo,
- 4:52Speaker 1: the video surveillance actually of her in the airport, the
- 4:57Speaker 1: crime scene photo shows that he's wearing the same shoes.
- 5:01Speaker 1: I recognize him because they're really tall heels. And that
- 5:06Speaker 1: struck me how difficult it would have been getting off
- 5:09Speaker 1: the airplane, dragging her bags all by herself and those
- 5:12Speaker 1: high heels. She was very petite. I'd be surprised if
- 5:16Speaker 1: she was even five ft tall, So I guess she
- 5:18Speaker 1: used those high heels kind of even it out. But
- 5:21Speaker 1: I believe those are the same shoes that are in
- 5:25Speaker 1: the crime scene photos. What does that reveal? You know what? Bob,
- 5:28Speaker 1: just start at the beginning with her going on the
- 5:30Speaker 1: trip with her family. Yeah, Nancy, she went on that
- 5:33Speaker 1: family trip. She left in advance of her husband and
- 5:37Speaker 1: her two little girls to come back to see patients.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Now of cameras that followed her travel from the Lee
- 5:44Speaker 1: County Airport down to Benita Springs show that she had
- 5:49Speaker 1: an unimpeded pass. She came home, and Lee County Sheriff's
- 5:52Speaker 1: investigators believe that the minute she walked in the door,
- 5:56Speaker 1: basically she was ambushed. He didn't have time to dropp
- 6:00Speaker 1: her bags, have changed clothes, or do anything. She was
- 6:02Speaker 1: hit from behind repeatedly. And I know you remember Lee
- 6:06Speaker 1: County Sheriff Mike Scott saying that it was one of
- 6:08Speaker 1: the most gruesome crime scenes he's ever seen in his
- 6:11Speaker 1: years of law enforcement. You know, it was a gruesome
- 6:15Speaker 1: crime scene. One thing that has always stumped me. Joining
- 6:19Speaker 1: me now, telecommunications expert, joining me out of Raleigh, Ben Levitan, Ben,
- 6:26Speaker 1: could you describe the type of burglar alarm? Dr. Teresa
- 6:31Speaker 1: Sievers has on her home. She was blunde and dead.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Her husband and daughters, little girls they couldn't have been
- 6:40Speaker 1: over four or five years old, are away out of
- 6:43Speaker 1: town with him. Ben explained to me how that alarm
- 6:48Speaker 1: says to work because the alarm did not go off. Nancy,
- 6:52Speaker 1: there's three possibilities here. Obviously she could Uh, the perpetrators
- 6:57Speaker 1: could have been given the alarm quote and that would
- 6:59Speaker 1: have been the quick and easy way. But look at it,
- 7:01Speaker 1: the sticker on the front window. I know this system,
- 7:05Speaker 1: and this system has two options, Uh if it goes off.
- 7:09Speaker 1: When it goes off, it will send a phone call,
- 7:12Speaker 1: either by landline to a control center or by cell phone.
- 7:17Speaker 1: It's really easy to discernine if it's a landline. To
- 7:20Speaker 1: disable this alarm is incredibly simple. You walk over to
- 7:24Speaker 1: the side of the house where the telephone wire comes
- 7:27Speaker 1: to the house, and you just clip it off. If
- 7:30Speaker 1: this cell phone, if it's monitored by a cell phone,
- 7:34Speaker 1: can connection, anyone walking up to the house with a
- 7:37Speaker 1: cell phone jammer will just completely disable this alarm. Nancy,
- 7:41Speaker 1: It's so easy to bypass this thing that, frankly, if
- 7:45Speaker 1: you want to go in, it's almost utiful. So I
- 7:47Speaker 1: don't understand. Are you telling me hold on where a
- 7:50Speaker 1: bunch of Luod eyes been leviting? You're the telecommunications expert.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Are you telling me what anybody with a cell phone
- 7:56Speaker 1: can come in and jam You're home burglar alarm. Well, Nancy,
- 8:02Speaker 1: what a cell phone jammer is. It's this device and
- 8:07Speaker 1: I can buy one of these on Amazon for about
- 8:09Speaker 1: eighty or ninety dollars and it it just puts out
- 8:13Speaker 1: a lot of noise. You're familiar with listening to the
- 8:17Speaker 1: radio or TV and getting a lot of static. This
- 8:21Speaker 1: this is a device that intentionally makes a ton of static,
- 8:25Speaker 1: so that if you walk into a room and you're
- 8:29Speaker 1: holding this device, nobody will be able to use their
- 8:31Speaker 1: cell phones, nobody will be able to listen to the radio.
- 8:34Speaker 1: It just jams all the radio frequencies around. And if
- 8:37Speaker 1: I wanted to break into a house that had an
- 8:42Speaker 1: alarm system that's protected by a cell phone connection, it
- 8:45Speaker 1: would be very easy to overcome that because once you
- 8:48Speaker 1: walk into the house, you would set off the alarm,
- 8:51Speaker 1: and then the alarm system would try to make a
- 8:53Speaker 1: cell phone call back to the control center, but it
- 8:57Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to get the call out, So it
- 8:59Speaker 1: would be very easy to do. That's the most complicated,
- 9:03Speaker 1: uh answer. The easiest answer is that the perpetrator walked
- 9:07Speaker 1: in with the alarm code, especially if it was someone
- 9:10Speaker 1: related to the husband who would know the code well.
- 9:12Speaker 1: We know now that the husband has an alibi. A
- 9:16Speaker 1: young mom of two, Teresa Sievers, found dead in her
- 9:19Speaker 1: upscale Banita Springs, Florida home. Her husband Mark and their children,
- 9:24Speaker 1: and her sister and Lisa, all in Connecticut, far far
- 9:29Speaker 1: away when her body was found. She had been there
- 9:32Speaker 1: with her family, but flew home alone that Sunday to
- 9:35Speaker 1: see patients. Police investigation commenced us immediately, with police swarming
- 9:40Speaker 1: the scene. One of the first things they do is
- 9:43Speaker 1: protect the scene. With me now out of the Florida jurisdiction,
- 9:47Speaker 1: forensics expert Karen Smith, Karen, we know that Teresa Sivers
- 9:52Speaker 1: was ambushed. I can tell that much from the crime
- 9:55Speaker 1: scene photos. Somebody had to be waiting on her. Plus us,
- 10:00Speaker 1: she was beaten in the head and face seventeen times
- 10:05Speaker 1: with a hammer. That scene had to be protected. First
- 10:10Speaker 1: of all, was she ambushed? If so, how do you
- 10:13Speaker 1: know that too? What can you determine from the seventeen
- 10:16Speaker 1: blows to her face and head? And three how and
- 10:19Speaker 1: why do you protect the crime scene? Karen Smith? Nancy,
- 10:23Speaker 1: she was blitz attacked. The killer or killers were lying
- 10:26Speaker 1: in wait for her when she came home from Connecticut
- 10:29Speaker 1: a day early, so they had that information. As you said,
- 10:32Speaker 1: the hammer was left behind, which is a treasure trove
- 10:34Speaker 1: of forensic evidence. They used it to strike her seventeen times.
- 10:39Speaker 1: That is a close quarter combat situation. And based on
- 10:43Speaker 1: the blood stains at the scene, not only was she
- 10:47Speaker 1: struck from behind, but she was also struck load of
- 10:50Speaker 1: the floor. The blood stains only extend about twenty four
- 10:53Speaker 1: inches high on the refrigerator from what I can discern
- 10:56Speaker 1: from the photos, and unfortunately, according to her autopsy report,
- 11:00Speaker 1: she also had bruises on her forearms, meaning that she
- 11:04Speaker 1: was conscious for part of this attack and she was
- 11:07Speaker 1: trying to fight back. When the crime scene is protected,
- 11:11Speaker 1: you know, you have officers stationed outside, you have hopefully
- 11:14Speaker 1: the whole block cordoned off. You have everyone uh at
- 11:18Speaker 1: every entrance. You have a police officer at the back,
- 11:20Speaker 1: the front, whatever doors are available. And it sounded to
- 11:23Speaker 1: me like the doctor did the right thing and exited
- 11:25Speaker 1: as soon as he found her, which was great because
- 11:27Speaker 1: it preserved everything inside, but the hammer and everything else
- 11:30Speaker 1: that they found in there, it's going to reveal all
- 11:33Speaker 1: kinds of evidence about the killers. There's secondary DNA transfer
- 11:37Speaker 1: if they were wearing gloves, people don't understand if you
- 11:40Speaker 1: touch your face, if you touch your neck, if you
- 11:42Speaker 1: wipe sweat off, and that sweat and that DNA transfers
- 11:45Speaker 1: onto the outside of the glove, guess where it's going
- 11:47Speaker 1: to go onto the object that you touch, meaning possibly
- 11:51Speaker 1: that hammer, along with some of the other evidence. So
- 11:54Speaker 1: I'm sure that the Sheriff's office did their due diligence
- 11:57Speaker 1: and found all of this, but it is really going
- 11:59Speaker 1: to be interest thing to find out what the forensics
- 12:01Speaker 1: revealed in this case. You know, as I'm listening to
- 12:04Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert, describing what happened, Bob Alexander joining
- 12:09Speaker 1: me on the scene there in Port Charlotte, Florida, Crime
- 12:12Speaker 1: Stories contributing reporter Bob, did she have on the same
- 12:16Speaker 1: clothes she had on when she flew in that night
- 12:20Speaker 1: before on Sunday night. Her body is found Monday morning,
- 12:23Speaker 1: but she doesn't show up to see her patients. Does
- 12:25Speaker 1: she have on the same clothing? Yes, you were dead
- 12:28Speaker 1: on when you said that. Did you recognize the shoes?
- 12:31Speaker 1: She was wearing the same outfit that she had on
- 12:33Speaker 1: when she landed. Because photos were taken by cameras at
- 12:38Speaker 1: the Southwest Florida International Airport of her as she was
- 12:42Speaker 1: wheeling her luggage out of the baggage claim Mary and
- 12:45Speaker 1: heading toward her car. So the clothes that she was
- 12:48Speaker 1: wearing at the time she was found in her home
- 12:50Speaker 1: were the exact same clothes that she had on when
- 12:53Speaker 1: she landed in Fort Meyer. That is significant because it
- 12:56Speaker 1: tells me about the time of attack. Now, that is,
- 13:00Speaker 1: if she didn't dodgr Chloe Carmichael, renowned New York psychologist
- 13:03Speaker 1: and founder of dr chloe dot com. Dr Chloe, I
- 13:08Speaker 1: don't think this woman would have warned the very same
- 13:11Speaker 1: outfit the next day to to work. I mean maybe
- 13:15Speaker 1: when you're in college and you're late to class, But no,
- 13:19Speaker 1: I don't see this woman doing that. No, certainly not.
- 13:22Speaker 1: I mean any type of professional would not do that.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Certainly not a doctor. Doctors like to convey cleanliness and professionalism,
- 13:31Speaker 1: so wearing rumpled clothing from the day before would certainly
- 13:35Speaker 1: not make any sense for a professional physician. So that
- 13:39Speaker 1: tells me Karen Smith that she was attacked as soon
- 13:43Speaker 1: as she got home from the airport. Absolutely, and the
- 13:46Speaker 1: crime ting photo show that her luggage was still in
- 13:49Speaker 1: the garage. She hadn't even gone back out to the
- 13:52Speaker 1: garage to bring her luggage in to unpack. She walked
- 13:55Speaker 1: in the back kitchen door and she was lipped from behind. Uh.
- 13:59Speaker 1: The sub sequhen hits all took place low to the floor.
- 14:02Speaker 1: She was defenseless. She basically was was murdered in a
- 14:06Speaker 1: short period of time and the killers or killer left
- 14:11Speaker 1: and left the murder weapon behind, which is baffling to me.
- 14:15Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know as far as any
- 14:19Speaker 1: other DNA evidence and stuff. I haven't read any reports,
- 14:21Speaker 1: so I'm not sure what they've got. You know, it's
- 14:23Speaker 1: very important also joining me uh veteran courtroom prosecutor out
- 14:27Speaker 1: of the California jurisdiction, Wendy Patrick. Wendy, I mean, when
- 14:31Speaker 1: you look at everything that Bob Alexander, ben Levitan, Dr
- 14:35Speaker 1: Khloe and Karen Smith are saying, it gives me a
- 14:40Speaker 1: picture of what happened that night. That tells me somebody
- 14:43Speaker 1: was in the home when she got there or was
- 14:47Speaker 1: waiting for her. I don't know. Let me think about it, Wendy.
- 14:50Speaker 1: What if what if somebody followed her from the airport.
- 14:54Speaker 1: What if somebody was trolling the neighborhood and saw her
- 14:56Speaker 1: come in by herself, and she herself disarmed the burglar system.
- 15:01Speaker 1: The fact that she still had on her clothes and
- 15:03Speaker 1: she was just coming in from the airport opens up
- 15:06Speaker 1: a whole cornucopia of possible murderers. You know it's you, Nancy,
- 15:12Speaker 1: But let me the couple of things. First of all,
- 15:13Speaker 1: we know the motive was to kill and not to steal,
- 15:16Speaker 1: because nothing was stolen. If anything, like you said, evidence
- 15:20Speaker 1: was deposited at the scene, I eat the hammer. One
- 15:23Speaker 1: of the things I would want to know is she
- 15:25Speaker 1: only came home one day early, which created the opportunity
- 15:29Speaker 1: for a murder for hire, which is a charge. But
- 15:31Speaker 1: why not all traveled together home one day early because
- 15:34Speaker 1: she had to work. That would be one of the
- 15:37Speaker 1: pieces of circumstantial evidence they could shed some light on motives,
- 15:40Speaker 1: because you're right at the fact that she didn't even
- 15:42Speaker 1: get to bring her luggage in. This was an opportunity
- 15:44Speaker 1: that was seized immediately after she entered the home. And
- 15:48Speaker 1: we know it was intent to kill and not just
- 15:51Speaker 1: steal because nothing was stolen, which takes out of the picture.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Some of these other theories swirling around about whether or
- 15:57Speaker 1: not somebody followed her from the airport. Very interesting fact
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- 17:26Speaker 1: there's the hammer sitting next to her, and you had
- 17:28Speaker 1: left it and didn't touch anything. No, I did not
- 17:30Speaker 1: touch anything. I touched her. I shook her a little bit.
- 17:36Speaker 1: All right, one moment. You're doing really well. So the
- 17:39Speaker 1: last time you had seen her as what time? Probably
- 17:43Speaker 1: two or three? So okay, And you said she returned today.
- 17:47Speaker 1: I don't know when she came back, but she was
- 17:49Speaker 1: supposed to go. She was supposed to go to work
- 17:51Speaker 1: today at nine o'clock. And her husband called me from
- 17:54Speaker 1: Connecticut to say she didn't shout the work and she's
- 17:57Speaker 1: not answering her phone, and he checked her each I
- 18:01Speaker 1: call and try calling, and he wasn't gonna call her mom.
- 18:04Speaker 1: And he said she was swinging by. Can you swing by?
- 18:06Speaker 1: And knocked on the front door and nobody answered, and
- 18:09Speaker 1: the lights were on. I can see her person's on
- 18:11Speaker 1: the countertop and she didn't answer. At Polder powder and
- 18:14Speaker 1: he gave me the key code to get into the
- 18:16Speaker 1: glass story front the glass store and can the doors
- 18:19Speaker 1: leading until it was opened. One of the dogs ran
- 18:22Speaker 1: out I don't know if he left her hunt and uh,
- 18:25Speaker 1: and I walked and I just opened up the door,
- 18:27Speaker 1: walked in the door, and you have on the floor
- 18:33Speaker 1: and there's a big gash in the back of her head.
- 18:35Speaker 1: You were hearing more of the nine one one call
- 18:37Speaker 1: as we sift through clues to determine what happened to
- 18:41Speaker 1: Dr Teresa's Savers to Bob Alexander, Expert Crime Stories contributing reporter,
- 18:46Speaker 1: you know, the neighbors painted a very unusual picture of
- 18:50Speaker 1: the family. They said, they really kept to themselves. They
- 18:54Speaker 1: have very little interaction with the other neighbors. What did
- 18:57Speaker 1: we learn as the investigation developed, Well, Nancy, they were
- 19:01Speaker 1: a very unusual couple and the fact that they had
- 19:05Speaker 1: the practice together. Uh, they were very well now anyway, Uh,
- 19:10Speaker 1: Theresa Receivers was very well received in the community. She
- 19:14Speaker 1: was very well loved here. But the husband was a
- 19:17Speaker 1: bit of a mystery. There was not a whole lot
- 19:19Speaker 1: known about him. He was the one that was kind
- 19:21Speaker 1: of standoffish with most of the neighbors. Every once in
- 19:25Speaker 1: a while he'd wave or something like that. But the
- 19:28Speaker 1: three suspends, you know, so much of her time at
- 19:30Speaker 1: work and was you know, a philanthropist. She was helping out,
- 19:35Speaker 1: giving her time freely to different clinics and things like that.
- 19:39Speaker 1: She was so beloved. But when it came to the neighbors,
- 19:42Speaker 1: they didn't really know a whole lot about the couple,
- 19:45Speaker 1: and that just kind of led to the whole mystery
- 19:48Speaker 1: surrounding the two of them, as the tales would come
- 19:50Speaker 1: out later. Well, speaking of the tales that come out later,
- 19:53Speaker 1: what can you tell me about a four point five
- 19:57Speaker 1: million dollar total life insurance estimate? What do we know
- 20:04Speaker 1: about point point five million dollars of life insurance on
- 20:07Speaker 1: this doctor. Yeah, there were a total, I believe of
- 20:10Speaker 1: five or six of uh insurance policies that were taken
- 20:15Speaker 1: out by the husband on the life of his wife,
- 20:19Speaker 1: which is what fueled the speculation all over Southwest Florida
- 20:24Speaker 1: that Mark Severs, the husband was somehow involved. You know,
- 20:28Speaker 1: Bob Alexander, you're right. You earlier said that he had
- 20:31Speaker 1: an airtight alibi. He is up in Connecticut, she is
- 20:34Speaker 1: in Florida at the time of the killing. But it
- 20:36Speaker 1: was such a precision killing, you know, there is such
- 20:39Speaker 1: a thing as murder for hire. Investigators in Florida began
- 20:44Speaker 1: honing in on this as Bob is saying five to
- 20:49Speaker 1: six million dollars worth of life insurance. Now, Dr Chloe Carmichael,
- 20:52Speaker 1: New York's psychologists and founder of Dr chloe dot Com.
- 20:55Speaker 1: I'm all for insurance, okay, But if my husband starts
- 20:59Speaker 1: take king out multiple life insurance policies on me, I
- 21:04Speaker 1: will notice I will question that. I mean, one life
- 21:07Speaker 1: insurance policy enough to pay the children's tuition if they
- 21:10Speaker 1: decided to go to fancy college. Fine, but when you
- 21:14Speaker 1: start talking about five and six million dollars worth the
- 21:17Speaker 1: life insurance, well, Hawaii, Bob Alexander. What did the husband
- 21:20Speaker 1: do for a living? Was he rolling in the money? Well,
- 21:23Speaker 1: he was the manager of the clinic that the two
- 21:27Speaker 1: of them ran, the holistic clinic that they ran in
- 21:30Speaker 1: Beneath Springs. So he was the one that was I guess,
- 21:33Speaker 1: the day to day money man that sort of thing.
- 21:35Speaker 1: She did the bulk of the work when it came
- 21:37Speaker 1: to the patients, but he was in charge of the
- 21:39Speaker 1: office that they ran. You mean he's in charge of
- 21:42Speaker 1: the money. I know what that means, all right, Dr
- 21:45Speaker 1: Chloe Carmichael. She's the one making all the money. She
- 21:50Speaker 1: employs him and he's got five to six million dollars
- 21:55Speaker 1: worth of life insurance policies, multiple policies on his wife.
- 22:00Speaker 1: That would make me take a hard look at the husband.
- 22:02Speaker 1: I don't care if he was in Connecticut or tim Buctoo.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Well that's true, Nancy. Uh. You know, regardless of of
- 22:08Speaker 1: what may or may not have happened, it does seem
- 22:11Speaker 1: very clear that he was quite focused upon his wife
- 22:15Speaker 1: as a source of financial security, and that he was
- 22:18Speaker 1: thinking about her as a source of financial security, whether
- 22:22Speaker 1: she was alive or dead. With that much as obviously clear,
- 22:25Speaker 1: since he was, you know, living through her while she
- 22:29Speaker 1: was alive, and had arranged to be able to be
- 22:32Speaker 1: very very comfortable in the event of her death, so
- 22:35Speaker 1: we know for sure that that's something that was absolutely
- 22:38Speaker 1: on his mind. I would also be curious if he
- 22:42Speaker 1: took out reciprocal policies for himself, um in the event
- 22:47Speaker 1: that he died. Was he interested in providing for her
- 22:51Speaker 1: or was it only on his mind that she might die.
- 22:55Speaker 1: You know, I haven't heard a thing about her or
- 22:58Speaker 1: having life insurance policies on him. Bob Alexander, No, that
- 23:01Speaker 1: hasn't been mentioned in any of the information that was
- 23:04Speaker 1: gleaned out of the investigation, there's really been nothing. Yeah,
- 23:12Speaker 1: and I find that interesting. I've never thought about it
- 23:14Speaker 1: in that light, you know, being leviating telecommunications expert joining
- 23:19Speaker 1: us out of Raleigh. We also know that Seaver's last
- 23:23Speaker 1: contact with his wife was just before eleven PM that night.
- 23:29Speaker 1: She it was a late night fly she stayed in
- 23:31Speaker 1: Connecticut with her girls and her husband to the last
- 23:33Speaker 1: minute fly home to Florida. She sends him a text
- 23:37Speaker 1: saying she had landed safely and was in route home. Now,
- 23:40Speaker 1: is there any way we can tell if she really
- 23:44Speaker 1: wrote that or someone else wrote it? Well, Nancy, Uh,
- 23:47Speaker 1: pretty clear that if she landed, and we typically do
- 23:51Speaker 1: this when you're flying on an airplane, you're not getting
- 23:54Speaker 1: text messages, You're you're not able to send text messages.
- 23:58Speaker 1: As soon as you get off that plane and onto
- 24:00Speaker 1: your phone, all of a sudden, you get a blast
- 24:02Speaker 1: of all the text messages that, uh, well, we're sent
- 24:06Speaker 1: to you while on flight, and you start responding. It
- 24:09Speaker 1: would be very clear from the cell phone records that
- 24:11Speaker 1: she said that probably from the tarmac of the plane
- 24:15Speaker 1: or where she sent it. Obviously, Uh, there is a
- 24:19Speaker 1: possibility that someone else could have used their phone. But
- 24:22Speaker 1: I'm sure they've done a forensics of Uh. We know
- 24:25Speaker 1: from a forensic of his phone that they got seven
- 24:29Speaker 1: hundred pages of material off his phone. Uh, he had
- 24:33Speaker 1: a journal on his phone. He had all sorts of
- 24:35Speaker 1: information that was preserved. I'm trying to write it down
- 24:38Speaker 1: as fast as account journal on cell phone. Note to self,
- 24:41Speaker 1: do not write journal about your marriage on your cell phone.
- 24:45Speaker 1: The cops will give it. Bill Levitan is absolutely correct.
- 24:48Speaker 1: The ability to text from the plane in the air
- 24:53Speaker 1: is recent. Okay, that's been within the last eighteen months
- 24:57Speaker 1: that that happened. So this doctor Teresa's murder was just
- 25:03Speaker 1: before that technology, just before that technology was introduced. So this,
- 25:08Speaker 1: this text could not have been sent from the plane. Also,
- 25:11Speaker 1: question Ben, this is a yes. No. Don't go all
- 25:15Speaker 1: death com for technological OMBI. Okay, can cops tell or triangulate?
- 25:20Speaker 1: I know they can triangulate phone calls, but can they
- 25:23Speaker 1: triangulate from ware text or sent Another lawyer question. We
- 25:29Speaker 1: can tell a general area. We could tell it came
- 25:32Speaker 1: from the airport. Well that good, good, gole good. That's good.
- 25:37Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. If it came from
- 25:39Speaker 1: the airport, I know she sent it, But did somebody
- 25:41Speaker 1: kill her and then send the text from her home
- 25:44Speaker 1: that's trying to cover up maybe the time of the killing.
- 25:48Speaker 1: And if somebody is covering up the time of the killing,
- 25:52Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, that means something to me. This is a
- 25:55Speaker 1: random killing. They don't care if you're trying to clean
- 26:00Speaker 1: up a scene or cover up the time of the murder.
- 26:04Speaker 1: That means you're providing somebody an alibi, you're covering up
- 26:09Speaker 1: the time of the murder. No. Absolutely, And you know,
- 26:12Speaker 1: luckily we live in a day and age where forensics
- 26:16Speaker 1: and autopsy results are also able to tell us the
- 26:19Speaker 1: time of the killing. So that's one of the corroborative
- 26:22Speaker 1: factors that will be introduced to the jury to basically
- 26:25Speaker 1: make it seem like everything was actually sent from her phone.
- 26:30Speaker 1: And I like the point you make about this is
- 26:32Speaker 1: the pattern and practice that most of us use when
- 26:36Speaker 1: a plane land. And there was also nothing about that
- 26:39Speaker 1: text message that seemed enough out of the ordinary where
- 26:42Speaker 1: it would be trying to cover up the time of
- 26:43Speaker 1: the crime. And that may have been because obviously when
- 26:47Speaker 1: you look at an autopsy result, when the cops are
- 26:49Speaker 1: go the next day, they will probably be able to
- 26:52Speaker 1: find circumstantial evidence of when that crime was committed, especially
- 26:57Speaker 1: because of the details that have been provided regarding the blows,
- 27:00Speaker 1: the blood, the blood spatter, evidence that in fact, the
- 27:02Speaker 1: text was sent back at the airport, as it sounds
- 27:05Speaker 1: like the cell phone records are able to cross. You're right,
- 27:07Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick Karen Smith forensics expert joining me tag teaming
- 27:10Speaker 1: me with Wendy Patrick Karen. Of course, you don't always
- 27:14Speaker 1: have to have an autopsy's saying, oh she had me
- 27:17Speaker 1: so soup at eight thirty pm on the plane, or
- 27:21Speaker 1: her body is at ninety degrees on beyond temperature, blah
- 27:24Speaker 1: blah blah. That's way, way advanced. We can tell this
- 27:30Speaker 1: just plain old common sense, is Bob Alexander's telling us,
- 27:33Speaker 1: looks like she's killed in the kitchen right when she
- 27:36Speaker 1: walked to the door. Her suitcase is still in the garage.
- 27:41Speaker 1: The clothing is the same as she was wearing, right
- 27:44Speaker 1: down to the shoes at the crime scene. Her pocketbook
- 27:48Speaker 1: is a disarrays if she's dropped her somebody rifle through it.
- 27:51Speaker 1: I don't know which, but I don't think anything was stolen,
- 27:55Speaker 1: which is another indicator she's not sex assaulted and nothing
- 28:00Speaker 1: is stolen, So what's the point? So, Karen Smith, I mean,
- 28:05Speaker 1: just plain old fashioned gum. She detective work tells me
- 28:09Speaker 1: it happened right when she walked in the kitchen door
- 28:11Speaker 1: from the garage. That's exactly right. And one of the
- 28:14Speaker 1: things that police are gonna look for as soon as
- 28:16Speaker 1: they walk in is and this is a big clue,
- 28:18Speaker 1: forensic wise and timeline wise, is was the blood still wet?
- 28:23Speaker 1: Was it drying? Was it cracked? Was it peeling from
- 28:27Speaker 1: the floor? You know, blood has We can get a
- 28:30Speaker 1: general timeline of when this happened just based on the
- 28:33Speaker 1: blood that's still there. Um is are the pool still sticky?
- 28:37Speaker 1: Are they wet? I know that's kind of a gross subject,
- 28:40Speaker 1: but it's true and it helps with the timeline as
- 28:42Speaker 1: well as her body itself. Uh there's a thing called lividity,
- 28:46Speaker 1: which is where blood settles in the body, and it's
- 28:48Speaker 1: gonna leave patterns on her body as to her position
- 28:52Speaker 1: when she was killed. It can also help timeline when
- 28:55Speaker 1: it happened. Um rigor mortis, Was she stiff or not?
- 28:59Speaker 1: All of these things are going to play into the timeline,
- 29:02Speaker 1: And it sounds to me just like she was she
- 29:06Speaker 1: walked in, she was blitz attacked, and she was found
- 29:08Speaker 1: the next morning. From everything that I've gleaned, you know what,
- 29:12Speaker 1: I'm totally in a trance. When Wendy Patrick, Karen Smith,
- 29:16Speaker 1: ben Levitan start talking about analyzing blood spatter and technology
- 29:22Speaker 1: evidence and circumstantial evidence, I mean, wow, you're so right,
- 29:29Speaker 1: all three of you regarding the evidence in this case.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Now to Bob Alexander expert and crime Stories contributing reporter Bob,
- 29:39Speaker 1: they may be making a mint. Uh. This doctor was
- 29:43Speaker 1: extremely dedicated to her clients and her patients and community outreach.
- 29:48Speaker 1: She had a thriving practice, but it was not a
- 29:53Speaker 1: better Roses. As a matter of fact, they had a
- 29:56Speaker 1: lot of money problems, didn't. They have a huge I
- 30:00Speaker 1: r as lean on them approaching like forty dollars to
- 30:04Speaker 1: the Feds. I mean, you don't play with the feds. Uh,
- 30:08Speaker 1: In oh, they say you owe me this, I might
- 30:10Speaker 1: here's a check. It's so nice of you to take
- 30:13Speaker 1: my money and I'm not gonna be a minute late. Wa. No,
- 30:18Speaker 1: you do not mess with the taxman. Okay, that's like
- 30:22Speaker 1: a major no no. But they had a tax lean
- 30:25Speaker 1: on them. Why with all those clients all those employees
- 30:29Speaker 1: that big blue burgeoning practice, they can pay their taxes. Well,
- 30:35Speaker 1: there's a lot of details that we are still awaiting
- 30:38Speaker 1: a word on as far as a lot of personal
- 30:41Speaker 1: information between the doctor and his her husband, but we
- 30:45Speaker 1: do know that there were issues financially and personally. Now, uh,
- 30:51Speaker 1: there apparently were some very tight circumstances going on as
- 30:55Speaker 1: far as money, and there were also details released later on.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Has been mentioned, there was a journal release from Mark
- 31:03Speaker 1: Fevers about his sexual life. There was a lot of
- 31:06Speaker 1: ten going oh wow, wow, wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I don't know how his sex life got all up
- 31:17Speaker 1: in my discussion of the taxman, but I can tell
- 31:20Speaker 1: you what I don't want to po the I R
- 31:23Speaker 1: s by intermingling his freaky, freaky, dieky sex life with
- 31:29Speaker 1: their tax bill. Let me just say they were not
- 31:32Speaker 1: paying their bills and they were making money hand over
- 31:35Speaker 1: fist I imagine. I mean, she is board certified internal
- 31:38Speaker 1: medicine doctor with additional degrees and holistic and molecular and
- 31:44Speaker 1: body wellness. I don't know why they weren't paying their taxes, Okay,
- 31:49Speaker 1: but I know this. That is a sign to me,
- 31:52Speaker 1: if you don't pay the taxman, there are other bills
- 31:55Speaker 1: you're not paying now. Bob Alexander, of course, has raised
- 31:59Speaker 1: a specter of the freak nature. Take a listen to
- 32:04Speaker 1: what Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott tells me on h
- 32:08Speaker 1: Lynn Sheriff Scott. There's absolutely no evidence that this woman,
- 32:12Speaker 1: a mother of two little girls, working her behind off
- 32:17Speaker 1: all day long as a doctor, supporting the family. All right,
- 32:21Speaker 1: there's no evidence she was having an affair that we
- 32:24Speaker 1: have heard of. Is that true. I'm not going to
- 32:27Speaker 1: confirm or deny an affair. What I what I will say,
- 32:29Speaker 1: as I've said all along, she was very much a victim,
- 32:32Speaker 1: and our investigation leads us to say that nothing she did,
- 32:36Speaker 1: you know, brought this upon herself. She didn't put herself
- 32:39Speaker 1: in a position of peril. Some people put themselves in
- 32:42Speaker 1: higher risk situations where they're more likely to incur uh,
- 32:45Speaker 1: you know, injury or become a victim. That was not
- 32:47Speaker 1: the case here. She simply returned home a little early
- 32:51Speaker 1: in advance of the family because she had to open
- 32:54Speaker 1: up and start to see patients, and that was her
- 32:56Speaker 1: reason for being there. There was no there was no
- 32:58Speaker 1: other indication of of anything else. The sheriff tells us
- 33:02Speaker 1: there's new twist and turns every single twenty four hour.
- 33:05Speaker 1: Sheriff Mike Scott with us, the Lee County sheriff leading
- 33:08Speaker 1: this investigation. Sheriff, question to you, what did they buy
- 33:13Speaker 1: at Walmart? I I understand that at least Rogers, if
- 33:17Speaker 1: not Rogers and Right, we're spotted at Walmart just before
- 33:21Speaker 1: the murders. That's correct, But unfortunately I'm not able to
- 33:24Speaker 1: share what they purchased. I will tell you with certainty
- 33:27Speaker 1: we know what they purchased to the item, and uh,
- 33:30Speaker 1: it's of course of interesting of it directly Jermaine to
- 33:34Speaker 1: the case, but I can't specify what it was would
- 33:38Speaker 1: be Are they there before or after the murder? Sheriff before? Okay,
- 33:44Speaker 1: now I noticed you said they Does that mean Right
- 33:47Speaker 1: and Rogers were there? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And one last
- 33:52Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you, Sheriff, between Missouri and
- 33:56Speaker 1: Benita Springs, there are a lot of tolls. Do you
- 34:00Speaker 1: think any of those had cameras? I know that some have.
- 34:05Speaker 1: I can tell you that we have been able to
- 34:07Speaker 1: basically follow virtually their every move as this investigation unfolds.
- 34:13Speaker 1: And then for the beginning. That's it's been of It's
- 34:17Speaker 1: been a great help to us along the way, both
- 34:20Speaker 1: digital footprints and otherwise, no stone will be unturned. Here
- 34:25Speaker 1: to Bob Alexander joining us at a port Charlotte, Florida,
- 34:28Speaker 1: The plot thickens. Who is it the Sheriff's telling me about? Right?
- 34:33Speaker 1: And Rogers? Please explain who these two characters are driving?
- 34:38Speaker 1: How many of our thousand miles from Missouri to get
- 34:42Speaker 1: to Benita Springs? And somehow they have now been connected
- 34:47Speaker 1: to the home of Teresa's Severs. Curtis Wayne Wright was
- 34:51Speaker 1: the longtime boyhood friend of Mark Severs, Teresa severs husband.
- 34:57Speaker 1: They talked about each other as a brother from another mother,
- 35:01Speaker 1: that sort of thing. They knew each other for so
- 35:03Speaker 1: many years. And I know this is radio Nancy, but
- 35:06Speaker 1: if you're ever able to see a picture of these
- 35:08Speaker 1: two together, it's almost uncanny how exactly they looked like
- 35:13Speaker 1: each other, almost identical twins. Now. Jimmy Rogers was a
- 35:18Speaker 1: gentleman from Missouri who allegedly was an acquaintance of Wayne Rogers,
- 35:25Speaker 1: who was the one that was the friend. He was
- 35:28Speaker 1: the one that allegedly was talked into accompanying Rogers or
- 35:33Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Curtis Wayne Wright on the trip down from
- 35:36Speaker 1: Missouri to Fort Myers where the murder happened. How do
- 35:40Speaker 1: we how are they placed at the home of choice
- 35:42Speaker 1: of Savers? Well, they were placed there because they had
- 35:46Speaker 1: all kinds of evidence pointing them making the drive down,
- 35:50Speaker 1: between renting a car, between having tolls. Also, they were filmed,
- 35:56Speaker 1: I believe at least one of them was filmed at
- 35:58Speaker 1: a walmart uh down in the Beneath Springs area the
- 36:02Speaker 1: day before the killing, and they were seen purchasing items, tape,
- 36:07Speaker 1: and all kinds of other items that pointed law enforcement
- 36:12Speaker 1: toward these two being there for the purpose of the murder.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Isn't Curtis Wainwright the best This is the best friend
- 36:19Speaker 1: of Dr Saver's husband. Isn't he a computer whiz? And
- 36:23Speaker 1: he had been called in to do computer analysis of
- 36:26Speaker 1: some sort at her doctor's office, called in by her husband.
- 36:32Speaker 1: That is correct. He had been there at some point
- 36:35Speaker 1: before the murder sub had taken place. He was in
- 36:39Speaker 1: the office, he was working on the computers. We don't
- 36:42Speaker 1: know exactly how much time he spent in the office there,
- 36:47Speaker 1: but he was a computer expert and he was hired
- 36:50Speaker 1: by the husband to come down and work on the
- 36:53Speaker 1: computer system. You are correct. Isn't it true that some
- 36:56Speaker 1: of her office staff believed that this best friend I
- 37:00Speaker 1: where he looks like an identical twin to the husband,
- 37:04Speaker 1: no relation though Seaver stapsy to think that Curtis wain
- 37:09Speaker 1: Wright had been actually using her office computer to follow
- 37:16Speaker 1: along what was happening in Seaver's life. Was he allegedly
- 37:21Speaker 1: doing that remotely somehow? It's very possible, Nancy. I mean,
- 37:25Speaker 1: this was a guy that really knew his way around
- 37:28Speaker 1: a computer and spend enough time where he could have
- 37:31Speaker 1: logged on, could have done whatever he probably wanted to
- 37:34Speaker 1: with those computers. And of course, being the closest friend
- 37:38Speaker 1: that Mark Sievers had, Uh, you know, wouldn't be surprising
- 37:41Speaker 1: for him to exchange information with Mark. M um um
- 37:46Speaker 1: um m m m. Everybody perked your ears up on this.
- 37:49Speaker 1: So you've got the husband's very best boyhood friend and
- 37:54Speaker 1: they look like twins, and some dude he brings along
- 37:58Speaker 1: with him, uh, Jimmy Rogers, traveling from Missouri all the
- 38:04Speaker 1: way to Benita Springs. They get there just before Teresa
- 38:10Speaker 1: Sivers is murdered, and they're spotted in a local Walmart. Okay,
- 38:17Speaker 1: that's not good. Combined with this, it turns out right
- 38:21Speaker 1: the friend, the best boyhood friend, may have been eavesdropping
- 38:25Speaker 1: on the Sivers for years. He's the one that set
- 38:29Speaker 1: up their office computer system and would quote trouble shoot.
- 38:33Speaker 1: According to the employees, who say Sivers allowed right to
- 38:38Speaker 1: access every single thing on their computer system from his
- 38:43Speaker 1: home in Missouri. He can creep onto the computer anytime
- 38:48Speaker 1: he wanted to do whatever he wanted, and he could
- 38:50Speaker 1: actually see everything that was going on in the office. Okay,
- 38:56Speaker 1: that is freaky. Um. No, Wendy Patrick, that's not just
- 39:03Speaker 1: a coincidence. There is no coincidence in criminal law that
- 39:06Speaker 1: his best boyhood friends shows up in town about seventeen
- 39:11Speaker 1: hundred miles away, living in Missouri, shows up within twenty
- 39:14Speaker 1: four hours of Teresa Savers being brutally murdered while his
- 39:18Speaker 1: best friend has six million dollars worth the life insurance
- 39:20Speaker 1: on the wife. Yeah, timing matters in a fact pattern
- 39:24Speaker 1: like this. Uh. And the optics are very bad. And
- 39:26Speaker 1: I mean that quite literally. If you point out your
- 39:30Speaker 1: jerk can't considerable Gosh, it's evidence that they look exactly
- 39:33Speaker 1: alike but subliminally it is odd and it is also
- 39:37Speaker 1: it ties right into this narrative of this is somebody
- 39:40Speaker 1: that was very very close to Mark, to the defendant
- 39:44Speaker 1: that he even would allow him into the inner workings
- 39:47Speaker 1: of his computer system, which most of us would never do.
- 39:50Speaker 1: So absolutely, that is one thing the jury will consider.
- 39:54Speaker 1: So Bob Alexander joining me from Port Charlotte, Florida, Crime Stories,
- 39:58Speaker 1: contributing reporter Bo Bob. As it turns out, we have
- 40:02Speaker 1: uncovered exactly what they did get at Walmart. Now, this
- 40:05Speaker 1: is a computer whiz who would think it leaves leave
- 40:08Speaker 1: a trail a mile wide. He bought, among other things,
- 40:12Speaker 1: wet wipes, black towels, black shoes, a lock picking kick,
- 40:19Speaker 1: trash bags, and they pay for their purchase with a
- 40:23Speaker 1: hundred dollar bill, as if that can't be traced. After
- 40:27Speaker 1: shopping at Walmart, Rogers and Right, the best friend of
- 40:31Speaker 1: the husband continued using the navigation system, and of course
- 40:39Speaker 1: we all know exactly where that led them. First they
- 40:42Speaker 1: went to the beach for a short while soaking up
- 40:45Speaker 1: some rays, and then they go back to the seaver's
- 40:50Speaker 1: home where they hang out for hours in the garage.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Ben Levitan communications expert, how can we possibly know they
- 41:04Speaker 1: head out in the garage. Well, Nancy, what you don't know?
- 41:09Speaker 1: And you can probably if you have a GPS device,
- 41:12Speaker 1: it keeps a history. If that GPS device was with them,
- 41:17Speaker 1: it's a very easy matter to pull up your history
- 41:20Speaker 1: and see where they were stationary for four hours. Wow.
- 41:27Speaker 1: You know, guys, it's just like you have on your
- 41:29Speaker 1: phone when you share like Facebook photos, it will tell
- 41:33Speaker 1: exactly where you are when the photo was taken, very
- 41:38Speaker 1: often right to the street. These two, the best friend
- 41:43Speaker 1: of the husband the computer was Curtis Wainwright and the
- 41:48Speaker 1: hinch person Jimmy Rogers nickname the Hammer, waiting in Teresa's
- 41:55Speaker 1: garage for four hours until she gets home. Can you
- 42:01Speaker 1: imagine her terror as she gets out of the car,
- 42:05Speaker 1: gets her suit case out, and then she's ambushed by
- 42:11Speaker 1: these two thugs. Well, it all boils down to this.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Take a listen to the sheriff. As you've seen, Mark
- 42:21Speaker 1: Sievers is going to jail right now. He's been charged
- 42:24Speaker 1: with second degree murder. Those charges may change, that's up
- 42:27Speaker 1: to the State Attorney's office. Of course, we want to
- 42:28Speaker 1: be respectful of the prosecution phase of this who has
- 42:31Speaker 1: also done a great job with us towards the latter
- 42:33Speaker 1: part of this investigation, and we'll continue on from here.
- 42:36Speaker 1: But it's a very serious case that gripped our community.
- 42:39Speaker 1: Our community can take solace in knowing that the power
- 42:41Speaker 1: of the Sheriff's office was brought to bear on three
- 42:44Speaker 1: very dangerous people who gave a great deal. And I
- 42:46Speaker 1: want to understore a great deal of effort and and
- 42:50Speaker 1: energy into covering the tracks, into throwing us off on
- 42:54Speaker 1: the track and that term and so it's um, it's
- 42:57Speaker 1: something again. But I've been very proud of our community
- 42:59Speaker 1: can rest easy knowing that this closure here in this case.
- 43:01Speaker 1: I do anticipate that this brings closure to the case.
- 43:04Speaker 1: I'm not indicating that there's anything really further to do
- 43:06Speaker 1: at this point. We were after Mark Sievers. Uh. We
- 43:09Speaker 1: got our man, and we're very happy for that. I
- 43:12Speaker 1: also want to note that our concern has been with
- 43:14Speaker 1: the two daughters, as you know to young daughters. They're
- 43:16Speaker 1: here behind me now in this building, and um, we're
- 43:19Speaker 1: taking very good care of them and will continue to
- 43:21Speaker 1: make sure that that's the case. I'll take a few questions,
- 43:24Speaker 1: but again I want to underscore the body of work
- 43:26Speaker 1: that was completed by the Sheriff's Office, the Major Crimes Unit,
- 43:29Speaker 1: and everybody involved. A very, very complicated case. I don't
- 43:32Speaker 1: recall one quite this complicated and quite this centricate in
- 43:35Speaker 1: my twenty eight years, my twelve as sheriff, and I've
- 43:37Speaker 1: spoken with many seasoned prosecutors and otherwise that would tend
- 43:41Speaker 1: to agree. And I think as evidence of the group
- 43:43Speaker 1: that's gathered here today, this pretty well tells that story.
- 43:46Speaker 1: And we've had some big ones Gateway and many others,
- 43:48Speaker 1: but this this was a big deal. Well, I think
- 43:50Speaker 1: so complicated. Well, there's a lot of different things. Again,
- 43:52Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, Uh, these folks went to great
- 43:55Speaker 1: lengths to cover their tracks. We had investigators in multiple states,
- 43:59Speaker 1: and this investic gation wasn't contained to Lee County as
- 44:02Speaker 1: so many are, or even Florida for that matter. We
- 44:04Speaker 1: were in various states, in Arizona, Missouri and all points
- 44:06Speaker 1: in between. And uh, and there was a lot of works,
- 44:09Speaker 1: a body of work you've seen being released from the
- 44:11Speaker 1: State Attorney's office in recent weeks and you've you and
- 44:14Speaker 1: by the way, there's much more that they will I'm
- 44:16Speaker 1: sure released, So there'll be more, even on top of
- 44:18Speaker 1: what you've already seen thousands and thousands and thousands of pages. Man,
- 44:22Speaker 1: what changed this week that led the arrest of Marxi Hernus. Well,
- 44:26Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that change. Basically, Uh, the
- 44:29Speaker 1: the investigation came to what I would say a conclusion.
- 44:31Speaker 1: I've said all along that you know, our time frame
- 44:33Speaker 1: is different the sheriff's office and typically law enforcement has
- 44:36Speaker 1: a different time frame from the general curiosities of the
- 44:39Speaker 1: public or in particular perhaps media deadlines and other things
- 44:42Speaker 1: that I certain respect your deadlines, but we're not operating
- 44:45Speaker 1: on in the four o'clock deadline or in new news
- 44:48Speaker 1: on any particular day. So the investigation and the evidence
- 44:51Speaker 1: jackal into your question, to your point, brings us to this, uh,
- 44:54Speaker 1: to this conclusion. Again, working very closely with the State
- 44:57Speaker 1: Attorney's office, we have to be mindful of prosecution that
- 44:59Speaker 1: lies that you don't understand the arrest. I'll tell you
- 45:03Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak specifically to the judicial process,
- 45:05Speaker 1: the proseccurial process, just to say that this is a
- 45:08Speaker 1: total body of work that we've been working very hard
- 45:11Speaker 1: on and you see that it's come to conclusion today.
- 45:14Speaker 1: A couple of months ago we had the two arrests
- 45:17Speaker 1: of the other gentlemen and then Fivers today, Why the
- 45:20Speaker 1: to arrest before and then Sivers now? Well, again we
- 45:22Speaker 1: follow the evidence. We there are certain thresholds that we
- 45:25Speaker 1: need to need our investigators need to validate information, they
- 45:28Speaker 1: need to follow up on information. And again we're not
- 45:31Speaker 1: on any specific timeline. There's no rule written anywhere that
- 45:34Speaker 1: says all three have to be arrested at once, or
- 45:36Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, obviously, as I've said,
- 45:39Speaker 1: I would, I would much prefer to prevent the crime
- 45:42Speaker 1: from occurring. We could somehow go back and prevent this
- 45:44Speaker 1: from happening, that would have been wonderful. That's not reality.
- 45:47Speaker 1: And so after that, we want to bring these things
- 45:49Speaker 1: to conclusion as quickly as possible. Now quickly for me
- 45:53Speaker 1: or for you maybe a different thing and when that
- 45:55Speaker 1: when that occurs. But obviously we worked as quickly as
- 45:58Speaker 1: we possibly could. Were just shy of the months. On
- 46:00Speaker 1: this June was that tragic and faithful day on Jarvis
- 46:03Speaker 1: Road where uh this you know, pillar of the community
- 46:07Speaker 1: and and and wonderful human being, her life was taken.
- 46:09Speaker 1: These kids celebrate their first Christmas just a couple of
- 46:11Speaker 1: months ago without their mother, and now their father's offen
- 46:14Speaker 1: shackles on his way to jail where it belongs. Frankly,
- 46:16Speaker 1: and yes, ma'am, has Curtis right either told investigators or
- 46:22Speaker 1: prosecutors that Mark Sievers hired in the two Jacob, I
- 46:26Speaker 1: can't speak to that specifically, just to say that this
- 46:28Speaker 1: is a complete body of evidence, a variety of different things.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Many you've seen through some of the releases that the
- 46:34Speaker 1: State Attorney's Office has released, and some that you will
- 46:37Speaker 1: yet to see. You'll shoot them soon. Crime you've seen
- 46:40Speaker 1: in your career, well, I don't know about gruesome, but
- 46:42Speaker 1: it's been it's very gruesome, course, but there's a lot
- 46:45Speaker 1: of gruesome crimes. We've had even crimes subsequent to this one,
- 46:47Speaker 1: the hide case out and Lehigh, the triple murder, the
- 46:49Speaker 1: incident down an eye on a road where the family
- 46:52Speaker 1: basically did what they did there. So we've had even
- 46:55Speaker 1: incidents since this. But this this case, for whatever reason
- 46:59Speaker 1: you fill in the blanks, had a little special appeal
- 47:02Speaker 1: to it. Perhaps it's because it's a doctor, a beautiful
- 47:04Speaker 1: young woman, a mother of two, and just all of it.
- 47:07Speaker 1: We talked about this early on Kelly, that this is
- 47:10Speaker 1: a case of high interest to the community, and I
- 47:12Speaker 1: understand that, and we understand. I wish we could have
- 47:14Speaker 1: had this press conference five minutes after the crime occurred.
- 47:17Speaker 1: That's not realistic. Again, this was a multi state investigation.
- 47:21Speaker 1: We had to connect a lot of dots, cross a
- 47:22Speaker 1: lot of teas. We weren't to be right. Slow and
- 47:25Speaker 1: steady wins this race. Are people were methodical, they were patient,
- 47:29Speaker 1: they were persistent, and above all, they were professional. And
- 47:31Speaker 1: I could not be more proud. Has Mark been cooperating
- 47:34Speaker 1: and he said anything to investigators since being taken into testing.
- 47:36Speaker 1: We've had casual conversation with March, just basically to make
- 47:39Speaker 1: sure the daughters are okay, some basic pleasantries in terms
- 47:42Speaker 1: of changing clothes and getting him shackled up and otherwise.
- 47:45Speaker 1: But he doesn't have a lot to say. Do you
- 47:46Speaker 1: have a confession. I'm sorry you have any confession. You're
- 47:49Speaker 1: not going to speak to that specifically. I'm gonna tell
- 47:51Speaker 1: us how he reacted when you arrested in today. Uh
- 47:54Speaker 1: stoic um emotional emotion there. I'm not a hundercent year's
- 47:59Speaker 1: golf bloo these veins. I think it might be ice
- 48:01Speaker 1: and daughters. His daughters will be processed initially with DCF,
- 48:07Speaker 1: but of course there's family members involved in this that
- 48:09Speaker 1: are loving and caring and we believe good homes. We've
- 48:12Speaker 1: had their interests as well. That's another reason that we
- 48:14Speaker 1: wanted to bring this together as quickly as possible. And
- 48:18Speaker 1: there are a lot of possibilities out there what could
- 48:20Speaker 1: have happened. I think this is probably the best outcome
- 48:23Speaker 1: given the totality of events that brings us to this point,
- 48:25Speaker 1: and that outcome is that Wainwright, Jimmy Rodgers, and Mark
- 48:30Speaker 1: Severs are locked up where they belong and the daughters
- 48:33Speaker 1: will be well cared for. I can't change what happened
- 48:35Speaker 1: to Dr Severs. I wish I could. I told you
- 48:37Speaker 1: that earlier, but I can't. We did everything we possibly could.
- 48:40Speaker 1: We did it well, We did it professionally, and frankly,
- 48:43Speaker 1: it may seem long sum, but we did expeditiously. Have
- 48:45Speaker 1: you talked to her family? We have had communication with
- 48:48Speaker 1: her family. Their reaction to the US. They're pleased and
- 48:51Speaker 1: relieve naturally as anyone would be. This has been going
- 48:54Speaker 1: on for some time now, which check one or two
- 48:56Speaker 1: more questions. I'm not going to speak to that. It's
- 48:58Speaker 1: a security issue. Obvious that we have three different people
- 49:01Speaker 1: on arguably one of the most high profile cases in
- 49:04Speaker 1: this in this region, will make those determinations. Initially will
- 49:07Speaker 1: book him in as we normally would any other inmate,
- 49:10Speaker 1: but beyond that, we have other thoughts about how that
- 49:13Speaker 1: court likely. Has there been any information that's come to
- 49:16Speaker 1: light yet that shows a payment or some other type
- 49:20Speaker 1: of reward that directly links our gain Curtis Org Yeah,
- 49:26Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak to that specifically, Jacob Again,
- 49:28Speaker 1: just again, a total body of evidence and lots of
- 49:31Speaker 1: it that brings us to this point keeping mindless evidence
- 49:33Speaker 1: has been reviewed not only by very very talented men
- 49:36Speaker 1: and women the Sheriff's office, but very very talented, seasoned
- 49:39Speaker 1: prosecutors and very very competent judges have all looked at
- 49:43Speaker 1: this evidence and review some of the things you've seen,
- 49:45Speaker 1: some that will be you know, forthcoming, and have all
- 49:48Speaker 1: agreed with us that he belongs in handcuffs and belongs
- 49:51Speaker 1: to You're going home this weekend. Is any different feeling
- 49:54Speaker 1: that you've had in the last nine months this weekend
- 49:56Speaker 1: and your all your crew was what you've accomplished, Well, uh,
- 50:00Speaker 1: I mean, you know, unfortunately we're this is seven business.
- 50:02Speaker 1: We have other active cases that we're working, and this
- 50:06Speaker 1: is a big case. It's a huge. As I've said,
- 50:09Speaker 1: I'm very proud of the team, Kelly and naturally as
- 50:11Speaker 1: anyone would be when you bring something to a successful
- 50:14Speaker 1: conclusion like this. Uh, there's some job satisfaction. I'm sure,
- 50:18Speaker 1: I as you as you know, and I think you
- 50:20Speaker 1: understand I don't physically do this myself. I'm speaking on
- 50:23Speaker 1: behalf of the agency, when I'm speaking on behalf of
- 50:25Speaker 1: the men and women again of prime scene, digital forensics,
- 50:27Speaker 1: evidence and most particularly UH, Sergeant Michael Downs and Sergeant
- 50:31Speaker 1: day the Lovet, who were the lead investigators on this case.
- 50:34Speaker 1: UH in our Major Crimes group. A really good day.
- 50:37Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys given it the coverage you can
- 50:39Speaker 1: and and UH bringing this community to some closure. Hopefully
- 50:42Speaker 1: this community has a sense of of peace knowing that
- 50:46Speaker 1: this person is behind bars. I think a lot of
- 50:48Speaker 1: people have been waiting for this day, and and here
- 50:50Speaker 1: is the day. We are awaiting trial. As the investigation
- 50:54Speaker 1: goes on into the murder, UH, this wife mother and
- 51:00Speaker 1: doctor doctor Teresa receivers Nancy Gray's crime stories signing off.
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