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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher.
- 0:14Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna welcome in Jaguars general manager James
- 0:18Speaker 2: Gladstone to the Ozone Podcast. Now, first of all, I
- 0:21Speaker 2: appreciate you doing this, glad to have the draft behind
- 0:24Speaker 2: you or just overall as you decompress any overall thoughts.
- 0:29Speaker 3: You know what, it was an absolute blast this last cycle.
- 0:33Speaker 4: I can tell you, just being able to get into
- 0:35Speaker 4: the portion of the year where so many people are
- 0:39Speaker 4: involved in the decision making process, being in the bunker
- 0:42Speaker 4: so to speak, with the coaches, the scouts, the analytics
- 0:46Speaker 4: members that you know we rely heavily on in our
- 0:49Speaker 4: medical team. It's really a window of time where we're
- 0:53Speaker 4: all connected and then we take a step back briefly
- 0:56Speaker 4: after to move on to the off season program and
- 1:00Speaker 4: year up for training camp in the fall and into
- 1:03Speaker 4: the season. So yeah, I'm gonna miss the fact that
- 1:06Speaker 4: we're all so tied together. Our scouting staff, who spread
- 1:10Speaker 4: spread out across the country, was all under the same roof,
- 1:12Speaker 4: and you know that stuff that's pretty special. Those are
- 1:15Speaker 4: moments because they're fleeting that you want to hang on to.
- 1:17Speaker 4: But at the same time and I'll look forward to
- 1:20Speaker 4: ramping things back up now that we're moving into the
- 1:22Speaker 4: next cycle.
- 1:23Speaker 2: It's such a easy question. Was it different in year two?
- 1:29Speaker 2: So I sort of specify it. Did it feel more
- 1:33Speaker 2: like your draft in year two, meaning you had a
- 1:38Speaker 2: year to sort of have everything in place that you
- 1:40Speaker 2: went to last year? Was so I assume so fast
- 1:43Speaker 2: put it together? Did it feel more like a Jaguars draft.
- 1:49Speaker 4: Is the short answer. Felt like in comparison both last
- 1:54Speaker 4: year and this same deal. Okay, very similar deal, very
- 1:57Speaker 4: similar priorities, very sim ar standards for selection now at
- 2:02Speaker 4: the same time, in terms of how we got to
- 2:04Speaker 4: the result, that was a little different, gotcha right in
- 2:07Speaker 4: that there was not as much energy required for the
- 2:10Speaker 4: translation piece.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Gotcha.
- 2:12Speaker 4: The idea that we were speaking the same language allowed
- 2:15Speaker 4: those conversations to be much deeper, much more efficient, and
- 2:20Speaker 4: you didn't have to, you know, put forth the time
- 2:23Speaker 4: to try to patch things together or bring together two
- 2:27Speaker 4: different modes of thinking and try to tie it all together.
- 2:32Speaker 4: So from that vantage point, different in terms of what
- 2:35Speaker 4: we were prioritizing and the standards for selection, gotcha, no different.
- 2:38Speaker 2: At all, you said Saturday, if there was a theme,
- 2:43Speaker 2: it was a volume Draft expand on that a little bit.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we were being very targeted in the
- 2:53Speaker 4: routes we would take to potentially move up from our
- 2:56Speaker 4: position at fifty six. Overall, we weren't going to overextend
- 2:59Speaker 4: our in that offering.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Which is strategically bold.
- 3:03Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I think that's exactly right.
- 3:06Speaker 4: And then through that we ended up obviously with ten selections,
- 3:11Speaker 4: but going into the draft eleven and knowing that we
- 3:14Speaker 4: wanted to stay in the double digit realm, if at
- 3:16Speaker 4: all possible, well at the same time trying to target
- 3:19Speaker 4: explicitly the guys that we wanted to and it circled
- 3:22Speaker 4: in advance. It dates back to my time in Los
- 3:26Speaker 4: Angeles a bit. There were too many years to count
- 3:29Speaker 4: that we didn't have a first round pick at our
- 3:30Speaker 4: disposal on Draft one.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.
- 3:33Speaker 4: So with that, there were plenty of years, plenty of
- 3:36Speaker 4: cycles where we made an attempt to move up earlier
- 3:40Speaker 4: than where we were positioned with our first selection, even
- 3:43Speaker 4: though that wasn't a first rounder, and we typically found
- 3:46Speaker 4: ourselves setting parameters that didn't get a deal done. So
- 3:51Speaker 4: we made our pick at where we were at, and
- 3:54Speaker 4: typically we were filling the back end of the draft
- 3:56Speaker 4: with compensatory selections that allowed most cycles to be anywhere
- 4:00Speaker 4: between eight and fourteen selections, So a high volume of selections,
- 4:04Speaker 4: and that was really where we filled in gaps and
- 4:07Speaker 4: we're able to cover ground and not feel like we
- 4:09Speaker 4: were at a deficit on draft day.
- 4:11Speaker 1: And it's where the it bats come in.
- 4:12Speaker 4: That's exactly right, And so higher volume of draft capital
- 4:15Speaker 4: was in fact what we were pursuing. And those were
- 4:18Speaker 4: basically the dueling strategies heading into this draft as to
- 4:22Speaker 4: whether or not there was going to be an opportunity
- 4:24Speaker 4: to strike and move up versus go ahead and lean
- 4:27Speaker 4: into the volume?
- 4:29Speaker 2: Is it and not to have you give you away
- 4:32Speaker 2: everything and how you do things, But do you map
- 4:36Speaker 2: out beforehand, Hey, this is the exact parameter or is
- 4:39Speaker 2: there wiggle room when you're on the phone or is
- 4:42Speaker 2: it pretty methodical because you've got to take that sort
- 4:46Speaker 2: of emotion out of the moment.
- 4:48Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's important to have some thresholds in
- 4:51Speaker 4: place so that you don't go awry. Well, at the
- 4:54Speaker 4: same time, you got to be agile, and you got
- 4:55Speaker 4: to get a sense for how the draft's unfolding in
- 4:57Speaker 4: real time and what might be necessary, and yeah, there's
- 5:02Speaker 4: a little flow state that you got to find yourself
- 5:04Speaker 4: in for sure. But at the same time, we definitely
- 5:07Speaker 4: map out a lot of those conversations well in advance
- 5:10Speaker 4: so that we don't allow the you know, in moment
- 5:13Speaker 4: of motion to take over.
- 5:15Speaker 1: At a GM.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Tell me once, the perception of what a draft room
- 5:18Speaker 2: is like compared to the reality is much different, Meaning
- 5:22Speaker 2: there's no arguing and pounding tables while you're on the clock.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Is that sort of how you run things where it's
- 5:28Speaker 2: it's a calm All the discussions like that are done
- 5:32Speaker 2: weeks in advance.
- 5:34Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would say that that's even throughout the
- 5:36Speaker 4: course of the conversations prior to draft day as well.
- 5:39Speaker 4: It's typically a very poised dialogue. While people like I
- 5:45Speaker 4: would say that at least within the scope of this
- 5:49Speaker 4: past cycle, we were in a position where, you know,
- 5:52Speaker 4: we had a lot of conversations and they would mirror
- 5:54Speaker 4: that what I think any of us would probably be
- 5:57Speaker 4: able to visualize as a conversation at the water court,
- 6:00Speaker 4: very very casual and dialogue less boardroom and what it
- 6:04Speaker 4: sounded and looked like.
- 6:05Speaker 1: And that's your goal, Yeah, that wants that as much
- 6:09Speaker 1: as possible.
- 6:09Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
- 6:10Speaker 4: I wanted to be conversational and I want to be
- 6:12Speaker 4: able to capture as much as possible the stuff that
- 6:16Speaker 4: is hard to quantify and right, you know, the sentiment
- 6:21Speaker 4: beneath anyone who lays eyes on a player or analyzes
- 6:24Speaker 4: a player and their interests in seeing them become a jaguar.
- 6:27Speaker 3: And so that's where we spend a lot of our energy.
- 6:29Speaker 2: I think that last part fascinates me. Where you've got
- 6:32Speaker 2: these intangibles that you want and I don't pretend to
- 6:37Speaker 2: know everything about you, have talked to you some about
- 6:39Speaker 2: this kind of thing.
- 6:41Speaker 1: My sense is you like a.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Process that's going to bring it out. How do you
- 6:47Speaker 2: process or how do you find a process that brings
- 6:51Speaker 2: out intangibles because you don't want gut reaction. You want
- 6:56Speaker 2: to make sure you're doing it. I guess methodically, right,
- 7:00Speaker 2: So is there a way to put I like this
- 7:03Speaker 2: guy's toughness into an equation that's right?
- 7:06Speaker 4: There definitely is, and most of the time it's subjective,
- 7:08Speaker 4: but you also try to find more objective things that
- 7:12Speaker 4: lean into to help decide. Right, And along the way,
- 7:17Speaker 4: we lean into our collective efforts and aggregates to help
- 7:21Speaker 4: us determine a lot of that stuff so that it's
- 7:23Speaker 4: not any one individual's perspective or subjective opinion outweighing the
- 7:29Speaker 4: rest of the group. And I think that becomes a
- 7:31Speaker 4: helpful piece to the puzzle. But just like when you're
- 7:35Speaker 4: evaluating a player's play speed or play strength, we're doing
- 7:39Speaker 4: the same for competitiveness, for toughness, for instincts, and those
- 7:42Speaker 4: are the things that really jump out in the intangible realm.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Makes sense.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Curious about a concept. I don't expect you to be
- 7:53Speaker 2: on Twitter all the time. I avoided at all costs.
- 7:56Speaker 2: But there's been talk in the last few days about like,
- 8:00Speaker 2: why don't teams look at consensus and bring that into
- 8:06Speaker 2: their formula. To me, it's the most absurd thing in
- 8:09Speaker 2: the world that a GM would try to look and
- 8:11Speaker 2: see what's going on the internet. But I guess just
- 8:14Speaker 2: talk about that, how you have to sort of have
- 8:19Speaker 2: the courage of your own conviction, I guess. And is
- 8:25Speaker 2: that something that you try not to look at what's
- 8:28Speaker 2: being said before the draft about players.
- 8:32Speaker 4: I listen if I said that, right, But I listen
- 8:35Speaker 4: to what's being said about players in a very real
- 8:38Speaker 4: way I care about it. I listen to those in
- 8:41Speaker 4: this building and the people that we invited into this building, right,
- 8:45Speaker 4: and what their perspective is on these players. We build
- 8:48Speaker 4: consensus internally, right, and that is leveraged at every pickpoint.
- 8:52Speaker 4: Our wisdom of the collective is how we phrase it,
- 8:55Speaker 4: and it is what guides our decision making. And I
- 8:58Speaker 4: can tell you that when we get up on the clock,
- 9:02Speaker 4: we're looking at the draft board and we see on
- 9:06Speaker 4: it our sentiment and Douval DNA and those are the
- 9:10Speaker 4: two north stars, so to speak.
- 9:13Speaker 3: And that is a collective output.
- 9:15Speaker 4: And ultimately, when we look at the guys that we select,
- 9:19Speaker 4: we're not selecting them without some version of consensus internally. Now,
- 9:23Speaker 4: where you select a player and you talk about consensus
- 9:26Speaker 4: mock drafts, it's a very different conversation, and those don't
- 9:30Speaker 4: always align because they don't necessarily take into consideration the
- 9:34Speaker 4: exact scheme or situation that the player is walking into.
- 9:38Speaker 4: Talent is one thing, but really the intangible elements, the situation,
- 9:43Speaker 4: the timing of a player's or arrival, those things are
- 9:46Speaker 4: going to play a big part into what the rest
- 9:49Speaker 4: of their career is going to look like and their
- 9:50Speaker 4: impact on the football field.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Y're to a team in an organization.
- 9:54Speaker 1: You mentioned something for the draft. It was interesting that.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Not having a top fifty pick means you're going after
- 10:01Speaker 2: contributors early who can develop. Does night have a top
- 10:05Speaker 2: fifty pick, Does that change the overall approach to a
- 10:08Speaker 2: draft or just at the top.
- 10:10Speaker 3: I think it is an interesting dynamic. I don't know.
- 10:14Speaker 4: As I look back to many of the other drafts
- 10:16Speaker 4: that I was a part of, we were targeting contributors,
- 10:22Speaker 4: projected contributors that we had a high level of interest
- 10:25Speaker 4: in seeing them become a part of our team.
- 10:28Speaker 3: This is dating back over the decade of being in
- 10:30Speaker 3: the NFL.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Many of those outperformed what we would have labeled their
- 10:36Speaker 4: capacity to be as contributors. I don't recall any of
- 10:41Speaker 4: our conversations surrounding kyn Williams as a Day three draft selection,
- 10:49Speaker 4: speaking about him as a future pro bowler. I don't
- 10:52Speaker 4: recall any of our conversations about Pukainakua speaking about him
- 10:58Speaker 4: labeling him as an all pro. I do know that
- 11:02Speaker 4: with both of those players, we were very keen on
- 11:06Speaker 4: what we felt like their contributions could be within the
- 11:09Speaker 4: system we had, and no different in many of the
- 11:14Speaker 4: decisions we've made over.
- 11:15Speaker 3: The last two years.
- 11:16Speaker 4: We're inviting people and selecting people to be a part
- 11:19Speaker 4: of this because we feel very keen on what their
- 11:22Speaker 4: contributions can be to the larger picture and knowing that
- 11:27Speaker 4: at the same time they have the right stuff under
- 11:30Speaker 4: the hood to reach whatever their fullest potential can be
- 11:34Speaker 4: in this environment. It's a very clear match and alignment
- 11:38Speaker 4: in that way, and you know, I.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Think we'll feel the benefits of that well.
- 11:42Speaker 4: At the same time, we walked into a draft with
- 11:45Speaker 4: a player at each position who has started a game
- 11:50Speaker 4: at least one up to this on our own roster.
- 11:53Speaker 4: So it's very challenging in that situation to say that
- 11:58Speaker 4: a first year player is going to walk in and
- 12:00Speaker 4: right and beat that player out day one. We're gonna
- 12:04Speaker 4: need contributions from this crop. We're gonna need contributions from
- 12:08Speaker 4: the last and over the course of their rookie contract,
- 12:11Speaker 4: much like players who are entering into their third and
- 12:14Speaker 4: fourth year. We're gonna be calling on them and relying
- 12:17Speaker 4: on them to help us win football games. And I
- 12:20Speaker 4: expect to see that that only increases with each year
- 12:24Speaker 4: that goes by. Not all that different than many of
- 12:27Speaker 4: the guys who we feel like are some of our
- 12:29Speaker 4: our most impact performers right heading into this next.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Season, doing the math nine last year, ten, this year, ten,
- 12:39Speaker 2: next year, all of a sudden, that's starting to be
- 12:43Speaker 2: half the roster. Do you see it sort of do
- 12:46Speaker 2: you see the roster sort.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Of evolving.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Toward fee I'm gonna say it feels like yours and
- 12:54Speaker 2: that's not the right way to phrase it, but do
- 12:57Speaker 2: you see it evolving in that process to where you
- 13:01Speaker 2: want it to be?
- 13:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we got a ton of high quality
- 13:04Speaker 4: players on the football team, and you know many that
- 13:07Speaker 4: we're here for years prior, and you know we're filling
- 13:10Speaker 4: in the floor in a way that is extremely stable.
- 13:15Speaker 3: And football seasons are long.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Attrition and injury occur, and we got to ensure that
- 13:21Speaker 4: when it does, we don't feel it fall out, right,
- 13:25Speaker 4: And so that's something that I'm really excited about. I've
- 13:28Speaker 4: been really focused on and I think we'll feel the
- 13:31Speaker 4: benefits of that.
- 13:32Speaker 2: You've said before, And it's interesting that building the roster,
- 13:37Speaker 2: everybody sort of looks at these three days.
- 13:40Speaker 1: It's really a three and sixty five day process, right,
- 13:42Speaker 1: And so.
- 13:46Speaker 2: I understand why people look at the draft so much,
- 13:48Speaker 2: but you really do approach it as year round that
- 13:51Speaker 2: you want to make sure you have picks to be
- 13:53Speaker 2: able to work during the season and to be agile.
- 13:57Speaker 3: No doubt. Got three sixty five, no doubt.
- 14:00Speaker 4: That's a big reason why we wanted to build up
- 14:02Speaker 4: future draft capital. We want to make sure that if
- 14:05Speaker 4: the opportunity presented itself, we weren't in a position where
- 14:08Speaker 4: we were depleting our future draft capital if we were
- 14:11Speaker 4: going to have to tap into it for some version
- 14:13Speaker 4: of a trade that could level up our player at
- 14:15Speaker 4: least that we would think could get our team in
- 14:18Speaker 4: a better spot. But I think beyond that, right, you
- 14:22Speaker 4: got our college scouting staff who is already turning the
- 14:26Speaker 4: page to twenty twenty seven and building out the player
- 14:29Speaker 4: list that'll be distributed to our cross check scouts on
- 14:32Speaker 4: May the fifteenth and spend a month and a half
- 14:35Speaker 4: really diving in on each of those positionally, so that
- 14:38Speaker 4: we set up the landscape and the approach for next
- 14:40Speaker 4: fall well in advance. And so that's an exciting moment,
- 14:44Speaker 4: but it happens fast. You got to flip the switch
- 14:48Speaker 4: and onto the next.
- 14:49Speaker 2: I love talking to people about misconceptions. I'd ask you,
- 14:53Speaker 2: what's the biggest of people who watch the draft?
- 14:58Speaker 1: What's the biggest overall?
- 15:00Speaker 2: And somebody who's spent their career inside the draft, what
- 15:04Speaker 2: do people miss? Meaning what like what don't they understand
- 15:10Speaker 2: about the process that they don't get by watching it
- 15:11Speaker 2: on TV.
- 15:15Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that I can answer that clearly.
- 15:18Speaker 4: I know, stuff that doesn't always become public is things
- 15:21Speaker 4: like medical history or things of that nature, which play
- 15:24Speaker 4: a big part. I mean, the availability piece and even
- 15:27Speaker 4: the maintenance requirements for some players with certain injuries like
- 15:30Speaker 4: that that's going to have a role and a ton
- 15:34Speaker 4: of maybe falls or decisions not to take a player
- 15:38Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. So I think in
- 15:41Speaker 4: a lot of instances you'll find that, you know, it's
- 15:45Speaker 4: very apparent and very public that a player is falling
- 15:48Speaker 4: for that reason or another instances. Uh, you know, it's
- 15:51Speaker 4: something that never becomes presidential wider Yeah, that's exactly right,
- 15:55Speaker 4: or even you know, off field concerns that can impact
- 15:58Speaker 4: some of that stuff. And so I think because that's
- 16:02Speaker 4: sourced intel and typically people aren't going to share that
- 16:06Speaker 4: information on a wide scale, that can be come Yeah, Yeah,
- 16:09Speaker 4: that's exactly right, and and so I think that sometimes
- 16:12Speaker 4: that can cloud maybe why didn't they target this player?
- 16:16Speaker 4: And you'll never want to have to be the one
- 16:19Speaker 4: to deliver that news or share that news because it's
- 16:21Speaker 4: not any of our place. But that can play its
- 16:24Speaker 4: part for sure in the decision making process.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Final question, when you're trying to sort of readdress and
- 16:30Speaker 2: reshape a position as you did tight end, how much
- 16:35Speaker 2: of that is day ad for the season you're talking
- 16:39Speaker 2: to Liam, Hey, we need to figure this out. And
- 16:43Speaker 2: I assume there's a process when you're sort of clearly
- 16:46Speaker 2: trying to reshape a little part of the offense on
- 16:48Speaker 2: the field, getting that into your world where you're scouting it.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Is there are there special conversations about that.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Is that just part of your overall process of here's
- 17:01Speaker 2: where we are, here's where.
- 17:02Speaker 1: We want to be.
- 17:03Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of that becomes just organic dialogue that
- 17:06Speaker 4: occurs over the course of a year. At the same time,
- 17:09Speaker 4: we have systematic touch points to really chop through those
- 17:13Speaker 4: sorts of things at the same time, but it's those
- 17:15Speaker 4: micro moments that I really think moved the needle more
- 17:18Speaker 4: than any of the structure.
- 17:19Speaker 1: You like grabbing those and making a matter.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Right, that's exactly part.
- 17:25Speaker 4: That's a massive piece to my puzzle, and I think
- 17:29Speaker 4: in a real way, like you think about a draft approach, Jake,
- 17:34Speaker 4: Timmy and I have long talked about our interests in
- 17:38Speaker 4: doubling down at positions in the draft and what that does.
- 17:42Speaker 4: That would meaning take two or multiple singular position and
- 17:47Speaker 4: knowing that that can have a lot of positive results
- 17:51Speaker 4: tied to it, and there's a lot of layers through
- 17:55Speaker 4: that that result, but nonetheless typically positive, and so that
- 17:59Speaker 4: will is certainly one that we wanted to apply in
- 18:02Speaker 4: this draft knowing we had a higher volume to choose from.
- 18:05Speaker 4: When you have a lower amount of draft selections, you
- 18:07Speaker 4: may be less willing to do that. And obviously when
- 18:12Speaker 4: you start talking about need versus once and player to.
- 18:16Speaker 3: Player, who's better and what you're weighing in.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Those instances, you know you're obviously going to have to
- 18:22Speaker 4: consider all those elements. But at the end of the day,
- 18:25Speaker 4: we're trying to take the right player for our system
- 18:28Speaker 4: and our environment and not let need.
- 18:31Speaker 3: So to win the day in those decisions.
- 18:33Speaker 4: And I think mapping out how we wanted to structure
- 18:39Speaker 4: to begin the first five selections and then fill it
- 18:42Speaker 4: out with the remaining six ultimately, which ended up being five.
- 18:47Speaker 4: It was very clear going into the draft who we
- 18:50Speaker 4: wanted to tag, and really the fact that the positions
- 18:53Speaker 4: ended up being what they were got you.
- 18:55Speaker 2: The final thing we usually do on this is the
- 18:57Speaker 2: ozone five, which is five fun questions.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Uh, we did that with you last year.
- 19:02Speaker 2: So I'll ask you three questions that I get after
- 19:05Speaker 2: the draft, and uh, you can do.
- 19:08Speaker 1: My job a little bit.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Everybody does your job, now you can do my job.
- 19:12Speaker 3: I like So. This is Q and A from our fans.
- 19:15Speaker 1: From fans, I like you so.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Charles from Riverside wrote me, Uh, back in previous errors
- 19:22Speaker 2: when the eras when the Jaguars were winning, the draft
- 19:25Speaker 2: felt anti climactic. Maybe the first round picked and seemed
- 19:28Speaker 2: like most of those guys would start. Isn't a boring
- 19:31Speaker 2: draft in that sense meaning you know, not sexy if
- 19:35Speaker 2: you will. Isn't that a good thing for a franchise?
- 19:38Speaker 3: You know what?
- 19:39Speaker 4: That is an interesting question, And anything anything off the
- 19:41Speaker 4: heels of picking second overall a year ago and in
- 19:44Speaker 4: a trade up Sterario is probably gonna appear boring by comparison.
- 19:48Speaker 4: I can tell you for us that wasn't the case.
- 19:50Speaker 4: We're extremely excited about the crop of players that we
- 19:53Speaker 4: brought in, and so often what I think doesn't get
- 19:56Speaker 4: brought to the table is the conversation around undrafted college
- 19:59Speaker 4: free agent and that's something that's going to get us,
- 20:03Speaker 4: there's no question, and even in the year prior, there
- 20:06Speaker 4: are going to be guys that play real roles for
- 20:08Speaker 4: us over the course of their rookie contracts that come
- 20:11Speaker 4: from that that pool of players, and you know, just
- 20:14Speaker 4: really excited about the group as a whole across the
- 20:16Speaker 4: draft selections and those undrafted college free agents.
- 20:19Speaker 2: So Jeff from Orange, Orange, California Rights, what wasn't addressed
- 20:24Speaker 2: in the draft that you expected to be? And I
- 20:27Speaker 2: would because you have so many picks, you probably got
- 20:30Speaker 2: to all the positions you wanted to, but anything at
- 20:32Speaker 2: the top play out. I guess that you wanted to
- 20:35Speaker 2: get to that you didn't get to. Or is that
- 20:38Speaker 2: just part and parcel with any draft.
- 20:39Speaker 3: I think it's a part of any draft.
- 20:40Speaker 4: The interesting part with the first round itself was, I mean,
- 20:45Speaker 4: it was a deep edge crop. I know that that
- 20:50Speaker 4: would have probably lent itself to more being available towards
- 20:55Speaker 4: the fifties than actually ended up showing itself. At the
- 21:01Speaker 4: same time, I think there was a ton of ol
- 21:03Speaker 4: in particular in the first round that came off the board,
- 21:07Speaker 4: which is probably speaking quite a bit to not only
- 21:10Speaker 4: the importance there, but just the way that the game
- 21:12Speaker 4: is being thought of a little bit more, especially with
- 21:16Speaker 4: run game sort of taking an uptick and really who's
- 21:20Speaker 4: finding success down the stretch.
- 21:22Speaker 3: So I think some of those elements certainly show themselves.
- 21:25Speaker 2: And final question now of the draft is this is
- 21:28Speaker 2: from Tony from Belleville, not sure where Belleville. Now that
- 21:32Speaker 2: the draft is over, is the roster better this year
- 21:35Speaker 2: than it was this time last year?
- 21:38Speaker 3: I like to think so.
- 21:39Speaker 4: But I mean, at the end of the day, all
- 21:41Speaker 4: these players are going to go have to earn earn
- 21:42Speaker 4: their place, and the competition is going to have to
- 21:44Speaker 4: be at a premium in order for us to take
- 21:46Speaker 4: another step. And I think at the end of the day,
- 21:49Speaker 4: our coaching staff is prepared to evolve schematically and continue
- 21:53Speaker 4: to level up their teaching and coaching so that the
- 21:56Speaker 4: players can be at their best. And our players are
- 21:58Speaker 4: as fully committed as I've ever seen, as excited and
- 22:01Speaker 4: energize as they were even a year ago when.
- 22:02Speaker 3: It was all fresh.
- 22:04Speaker 4: Cool thing is, I mean, those guys are operating with
- 22:07Speaker 4: clear minds because there's so much consistency one year to
- 22:10Speaker 4: the next. Right They're not learning a new language right now,
- 22:14Speaker 4: they're just expanding on it. And so I think anytime
- 22:16Speaker 4: you get a chance to do something the second time around,
- 22:18Speaker 4: you're going to have a fair shot at doing it better.
- 22:20Speaker 4: So really looking forward to seeing what those results end
- 22:23Speaker 4: up showing here this next fall.
- 22:24Speaker 2: And my final kind of personal question, now the draft
- 22:27Speaker 2: is over, what can you do away from football that
- 22:30Speaker 2: you couldn't do the last two months.
- 22:33Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say on a weekend, I
- 22:35Speaker 4: can wake up and grab my kids out of bed
- 22:40Speaker 4: instead of coming into the office, which is phenomenal because
- 22:42Speaker 4: there's a very few things on planet Earth that I
- 22:45Speaker 4: enjoy more.
- 22:46Speaker 3: And seeing their faces to start the day is always
- 22:49Speaker 3: a very enjoyable moment for me.
- 22:52Speaker 1: That's very cool.
- 22:53Speaker 2: James always enjoy it, and I always appreciate the effort
- 22:58Speaker 2: that you give to answer and helping the fans understand
- 23:01Speaker 2: what's going on.
- 23:02Speaker 3: It's very appreciated. Appreciate the platform.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Thank you, Bud,