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Where Are They Now?: Scammer Edition w/ Corinne Fisher & Krystyna Hutchinson (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's Popping Congregation is your girl, Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming Scam, Come rob froll Scam,
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  Speaker 1: Come rob fraud. Scam Goddess. What's popping Congregation, Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to another installment of Scam Goddess. It is I Lacey
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  Speaker 1: Mosley aka Scam Goddess, and this is the podcast that
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  Speaker 1: celebrates fraud and all those who practice and preach it
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  Speaker 1: a man. Guys, you know, I'm very yes, I'm very excited. Lad.
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  Speaker 1: It is static. We lit happy to be here. We
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  Speaker 1: have two amazing guests for you today. Their host of
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  Speaker 1: the trail Blazing podcast Guys, We Fucked, the Anti slunch
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  Speaker 1: Shaman podcast. Their new hour comedy special Hour Special Day
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  Speaker 1: is on their YouTube channel, right Neil, get on the
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  Speaker 1: US and the tubes and click on that. Right after this,
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  Speaker 1: They've just announced a new TV series Come on Television
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  Speaker 1: for Fox, based on their podcast We Love Queens, Some
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  Speaker 1: Creative Queens Congregation. Please welcome Corin Fisher and Christina Hutchinson.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, ladies, highly see what an intro. That's my favorite
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  Speaker 2: one so far. Yeah, so you get the best intro
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  Speaker 2: word for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. We like to give the girls their flowers
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  Speaker 1: while they're living, Okay, not on the tobestone, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to have a funeral while I'm alive,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just sitting it back like m
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  Speaker 1: I was great, you know, Damn she crying alive, Like
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  Speaker 1: I want to pass our tissues at my own funeral.
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  Speaker 1: I just want everybody to just be so sad.
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  Speaker 2: I think any way to live.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I think we all deserve to do that. We
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  Speaker 1: all thank our death a little bit. Do a little
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  Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth, and you know, watch from the back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, see how much we were loved.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I need to know. So I love to ask
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning of the podcast, and either of you
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  Speaker 1: can go first, what's your relationship with scams? Do you
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  Speaker 1: love them? Do you hate him? Have you ever been scammed?
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  Speaker 1: It could literally be anything. I just like to see
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  Speaker 1: where you are on the scam gammut.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna scam one of us, it's
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  Speaker 3: definitely gonna be me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I fall for that shit. I fall for that shit.
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of empathy, some naivete, some gullibility.
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  Speaker 3: I was when I first moved to New York City.
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  Speaker 3: It happened many times where like a guy would come
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  Speaker 3: up to me and tell me about like his wife
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  Speaker 3: needs surgery, and I'm like, oh my god, that's so sad.
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  Speaker 2: We can't afford it. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: And then he would walk with me to an ATM
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  Speaker 3: and I was like where we go? And he's like,
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  Speaker 3: can you give us money? And I'm like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and I did, like yeah, I thought.
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  Speaker 2: I've fallen for a lot of shit.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Chris Christina, I'm hearing a little bit of shame
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  Speaker 1: when you say this. Don't be ashamed of this. I've
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  Speaker 1: been scammed many times. I have also been scammed by
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  Speaker 1: the Mine was a woman on the street in college
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  Speaker 1: who said that her grand her mother was in the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: her baby was at daycare, and her car had run
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  Speaker 1: out of gas. So it was a whole situation. And
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  Speaker 1: she also walked me to an ATM and and listen,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you did the right thing. There's no
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  Speaker 1: way for us to know how sociopathic would it be
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  Speaker 1: if you gave somebody money on the street who said
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  Speaker 1: that they were in need, and then you came back
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  Speaker 1: like three days later, okay, like let me see the receipt.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta see her sin Andy built like how your
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  Speaker 1: wife is doing she get the surgery or and all.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, and I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: And then they just put you in a position where
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  Speaker 3: it's it's hard for me to say no. So when
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  Speaker 3: you tell me like you're going through a hardship, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I can't say no. That friends way better at it.
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  Speaker 4: I love.
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  Speaker 1: I love me, go fund me on foot Like he
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  Speaker 1: was like, I go fun me. But he's like doing
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  Speaker 1: the work. He's out here, Yeah, stepsin. I'm not mad
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  Speaker 1: at it. And I will say to Chris Nina, you
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  Speaker 1: don't even know, like maybe that worked out in your
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  Speaker 1: favorite safety wise too, because I found out later that
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  Speaker 1: the lady who was doing the my baby had daycare
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  Speaker 1: my mom in the hospital scam. If you didn't give
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  Speaker 1: her coincided she was hitting people with bricks.
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  Speaker 2: Like oh oh, so I saved my own life. Possibly.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I've also been scammed in that I've gotten breast
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  Speaker 3: exams when I shouldn't have.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, go on, I think twice a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: Like one time I was going to a doctor in
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  Speaker 3: the upper like I was just moved to New York
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  Speaker 3: and I needed blood work for a job. I forget
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  Speaker 3: what the fuck job I didn't blood work for, but anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I needed like a checkup, like a standard checkup, and
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  Speaker 3: the guy gave me a breast exam and I was
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  Speaker 3: like I left the doctor's office and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: wait a second, was that supposed to happen? And I
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  Speaker 3: called up all my friends and they were all like nope,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh damn. Okay, okay, I.
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  Speaker 1: Just feel like your TV's probably didn't have anything to
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  Speaker 1: do with employment.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't ask about at the at the job house. Now,
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  Speaker 1: But okay, was the exam good? Did it feel like
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  Speaker 1: a real exam? Was he really check it for lumps
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  Speaker 1: and dimples and shit? Or he was more like pat
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  Speaker 1: like pat in it like like he was cup with
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  Speaker 1: a ball but.
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  Speaker 2: It was my tit Yeah, oh yeah, I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: as it was happening, you had to hold your arm up,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And I was like that, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: this is supposed to happen, and there was not. He
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  Speaker 2: was a male doctor. There was no female in the room.
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  Speaker 3: Usually when a doctor and female patient, yeah, exactly, just
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  Speaker 3: to like a third party to be there, and there
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  Speaker 3: wasn't any.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking around. I was like, there's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be like a nurse here, right, And I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: Damn it, not, damn it.
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  Speaker 4: Wait what doctor had I never had an assistant in
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  Speaker 4: the room when there's when there's a male doctor. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I might OPG is female, but I never heard that
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  Speaker 4: rule about having like a female It's not like the airport.
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  Speaker 3: Well, whenever there's a female or a male gynecologist, there's
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  Speaker 3: always has to be a nurse in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Acologist. Yeah. I always thought it was just most of
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  Speaker 1: my gynecologists have been male. I will say that, and
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  Speaker 1: I do prefer a male gynecologist just because I've had
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  Speaker 1: women guynecologists, and it just feels like because if they're
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  Speaker 1: six gendered women, they got a vagina there, They're like,
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  Speaker 1: I got this shit. They putting the dubl lips in
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  Speaker 1: all cold and just like like they didn't get all
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  Speaker 1: rough with pussy's like I got one. It's fine. I
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  Speaker 1: know this is fine, but I feel like all the
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  Speaker 1: head have been like is this fine? Do you need
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  Speaker 1: more of this? Cold? Jena up, missillated? Like they just
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  Speaker 1: feel like they're like a little afraid of the.
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  Speaker 2: Coochie steel right right.
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  Speaker 1: But I say, regardless of gender, anytime I've pulled out
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  Speaker 1: any genitals, there's always been two people in the room,
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  Speaker 1: so me too. I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I guess like the nurse is just like there to
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  Speaker 4: like take the garbage and stuff a lot of the time.
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  Speaker 4: But I didn't know that was like I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: that was like a hard and fast rule. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 4: a third party.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah, this man he almost had me
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  Speaker 1: when he said put the arm up, because the arm
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit of part of it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But then the cup cup cup, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: just to be pinchon or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, right, grab it or I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And I just I was looking around like this is weird.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And then yeah, I got scammed into getting felt up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the ultimate scam of being a woman is
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  Speaker 1: at some point somebody probably will do something inappropriate to you,
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, but I'm sorry to hear that. But hopefully
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  Speaker 1: the man's wife got his surgery. Cariinda, you have you
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  Speaker 1: had an experience with scams? Do you like them? Do
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  Speaker 1: you hate them? Are you a mark? Are you a scammer?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I was listening to the examples of scams,
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  Speaker 4: and I was just like, oh, I thought you meant
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  Speaker 4: a scam was like how to get like a free
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  Speaker 4: burger at Burger King. I didn't know it was like
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  Speaker 4: how to avoid getting robbed on the street or sexually assault.
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  Speaker 4: How I would categorize a scam. I was gonna come
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  Speaker 4: on and tell you how to get to like a
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  Speaker 4: front section at Madison Square Garden when you only pay for.
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  Speaker 2: Like a back ticket. Like that's those are.
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  Speaker 1: My version that scams. Do you how do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: I am? I was thinking of it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that I've ever I mean, I'm listen,
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  Speaker 4: we've all been scammed. We live in a Marria, we're human,
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  Speaker 4: We've all been scammed. But I can't think of one
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  Speaker 4: that actually like screwed me over long term. Yet that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of requires with like, you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of opportunities to get scammed in being a comedian. When
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  Speaker 4: you start out, there's a lot of people who like, say,
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  Speaker 4: like to perform five ten minutes, you have to bring
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  Speaker 4: ten or twenty people to this show. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: think Bringer shows in general are a scam, but it's
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  Speaker 4: like a very transparent scam.
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  Speaker 1: It is, but I that's a scam. That and scams
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  Speaker 1: don't have to be something super huge. That can be
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  Speaker 1: the smallest little things any way you can get over.
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  Speaker 1: Bringer scams are definitely when I was living in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, like shout out to all my friends from college,
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  Speaker 1: my relatives who are in the Tri State who I
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  Speaker 1: would trick and to come and to see me do
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  Speaker 1: five minutes to stand up just so and they and
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  Speaker 1: you know, they make you pay. They make them pay
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  Speaker 1: at the door. Then they got a drink minimums.
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  Speaker 3: Drink minimum to see a bunch of newbies do five yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right to see me the person you already know, do some.
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  Speaker 3: Jokes talk Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Carin Corin is
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  Speaker 3: really good at like getting things, like she said, like
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  Speaker 3: she can sneak into a front row or like sneak
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  Speaker 3: into a party or something like scamming people that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: involve taking their money, but involves, like, you know, getting
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  Speaker 3: something more than what you paid for.
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  Speaker 1: Now, that's still a scam. I still want to harken
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  Speaker 1: back to the Madison Square Garden, like, how did the
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  Speaker 1: girls get to the front?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think this was there was a
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  Speaker 4: there's This is something I learned on another podcast. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't my idea, but someone just like brought it up
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  Speaker 4: in a segment that in the olden days, you could
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  Speaker 4: buy a one ticket to the front standing room only
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  Speaker 4: of a venue like a Madison Square Garden or probably
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  Speaker 4: works on any of them, and then you just switch
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  Speaker 4: it out between your friends because you can scan in
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  Speaker 4: using the same barcode as many times as possible. So
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  Speaker 4: I guess in the age of like digital phones and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: you could just if as long as you have the barcode.
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  Speaker 4: You basically go with a group of five, you know
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  Speaker 4: or more, and everyone is using the same standing room
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  Speaker 4: barcode and the other people get noseble seats. But then
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  Speaker 4: everyone can uh end up in standing room, you know,
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  Speaker 4: especially because there's no seat that you have to end
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  Speaker 4: up in. It's just standing in this open space. So
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  Speaker 4: that was the scam. I don't know if that still
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  Speaker 4: works or not, or but sounds good to me.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would still work because the thing about
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  Speaker 1: that is you're not using the barcode to get into
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  Speaker 1: the venue. You buy the cheapest seats up in the nosebleedze,
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  Speaker 1: and then everybody uses the one VIP ticket, which they
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  Speaker 1: know it's already been scam because you had to get
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  Speaker 1: in there, so that's cute. And then we just keep
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  Speaker 1: passing it back somebody go to the bathroom or hand
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  Speaker 1: it outside of the section. I like this, Okay, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing is you need to know the structure
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  Speaker 4: because obviously they change different stadiums depending if it's like
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  Speaker 4: a sports game or if it's a concert. But Madison
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  Speaker 4: Square Garden in similar sites show you the layout of
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  Speaker 4: the arena that you're going to ahead of times, so
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  Speaker 4: you know where the stage is going to be, you
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  Speaker 4: know if there's a general admission area, so it only
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  Speaker 4: works with places with general admission spaces. But yes, seemingly,
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  Speaker 4: I don't see how they could really work around that.
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  Speaker 1: So you just have to do it basically like Ocean's
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  Speaker 1: eleven style. You get on Ticketmaster and you print out
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  Speaker 1: the venue and y'all are all strategizing in the nose please.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I love this. I mean, guys, give it a try.
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  Speaker 1: Especially during these pandemic times. This concerts are probably hella unorganized,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, this is probably really the time to
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  Speaker 1: just get up on stage so you can just get
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce sweat right on your face.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm always in the front row for her.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been in the front o yet. I've been
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  Speaker 1: to two Beyce concerts. I need. I want to do
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  Speaker 1: the VIP experience.
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  Speaker 3: Beehive on the last tour, the on the Rung two
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  Speaker 3: tour where they had like jay Z and Beyonce had
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  Speaker 3: the stage was so fucking cool and they had this
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  Speaker 3: object that went over the front row section, like yeah
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  Speaker 3: so you could oh so you could see the back
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  Speaker 3: of them in the front of them without moving.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: It was I was there, but I was like on
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  Speaker 1: the side, like up in the audience area, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I need but they weren't my ticket. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, next time, I'm gonna get so close that
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  Speaker 1: I have to work Beyonces fan, Like I want to
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  Speaker 1: be behind the fan moving it, you know, like, get
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  Speaker 1: sure were keeping our queen dry s y, dry and cool.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that's great. I think much of life
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  Speaker 1: is a scam, so from big to small, if you
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  Speaker 1: can get over just a little bit, I'm into it. Scam. Come,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to our first segment here, what's hot and fraud.
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  Speaker 1: This is where we warn our listeners about popping scams
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  Speaker 1: in the street, and more often than not these days,
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  Speaker 1: we get a letter from you guys as always, snitch
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  Speaker 1: on your friends and family at scam goot us hot
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  Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Just make sure your scam is
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  Speaker 1: retired because we don't want to what yes, fuck up,
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  Speaker 1: yo bag? Amen. So we have a letter here and
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  Speaker 1: Christina Kran either of you like, I just need a
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  Speaker 1: fake name. Gender doesn't matter, We don't care about that
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  Speaker 1: for this person.
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  Speaker 2: Madeline Madeline.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that reminds me of the book's Madaline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, so, Madeleine says, So I've got a
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  Speaker 1: scam for you. It happened twenty years ago. Okay, a
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  Speaker 1: moment in time, but the time fin so that's just
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and two. When I heard twenty years ago,
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: my brain said nineteen eighty. But no, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Oops.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I pause because I was about to be like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: shoulder pass, okay, way too much blood. But no, this
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  Speaker 1: is two thousand and two. This is jout fits where
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: your stomach is for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah jeans, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, low riji jeans were just the pants. Just stop
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  Speaker 1: at your glitterists. Yes, that's where they end, right, pubes
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  Speaker 1: hanging out on top? Why why why did we let
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: people do that to us? Jen Z was trying to
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: bring it back and we said, no, those pants. Don't
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: let that one back. Okay, if anything, bring the waiste higher,
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  Speaker 1: make the top of the pants a boss.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I want to.
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  Speaker 1: I want the pants to get hit my neck. So
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago, I was a college student on study
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  Speaker 1: abroad in Italy. First study abroad is a scam and
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  Speaker 1: I loved it. It is it's lokey as a scam.
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  Speaker 1: Please let me go and study of broad Now, I'd
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it so much more than when I was a
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  Speaker 1: baby college student. That's true. When I was in London.
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  Speaker 1: I think I appreciated it. I think I did things,
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  Speaker 1: but I could have did more. But yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys study abroad?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, but I went. I went.
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  Speaker 3: I went to London when I was in eighth grade,
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  Speaker 3: and I was just like, what the fuck is this? Like,
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  Speaker 3: I was amazed by I should have studied abrons.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, studying a broad really just gave me a
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: sense of how trash America was. I remember going to
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: the grocery store and they just had the eggs out.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't refrigerated or bleached.
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  Speaker 2: I said, what whoa brown egg doesn't sit.
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  Speaker 1: Out in the air and whatnot, and they were like,
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  Speaker 1: this is how eggs supposed to look. I cracked the yolk.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: It was like orange, and I said, why, y'all right.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Right, because the chickens are healthier. Yeah.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: We were taught about processed, dyed foods, honestly, green eggs
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: and ham propaganda. That's when we started learning about our
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: foods being dyed and the FDA sucking us up in America.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: We was like, yeah, green eggs, why not? Makes sense? Yeah?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: When you when I when I traveled to London as
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: an adult, because I've been there a couple of times,
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: it's wild to know like certain food is illegal there,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Like it's banned because it's got ingredients that are poisonous,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: And you're like, de what that says something.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: It also fucks me up that like Fireball, I guess
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: has some anti freeze components when it's sold in America,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: but then when it sold everywhere else, they just take
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: that ingredient out. And I'm like, oh my gosh, y'all
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: just take it off for everybody. I don't know. Y'all like, no,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: we gonna keep it in America.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Wow wow Wowow that makes sense.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so she says, I'm studying abroad up the baby
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: college students said I'd have been in Italy about a
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: month and could fake my way through carrying on a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: conversation in Italian, and was going on a group trip
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: down the coast for a few nights. We stayed at
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a typical European tourist hotel, not fancy, but nicer than
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the hostels. Okay, I've stayed at one of those because
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do the hostile situation. I don't know how
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you sleep. I get it if the finances are where
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the final and they where they financing, but I would
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: just be very nervous to sleep in a room on
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: a cot with a bunch of strangers, like with all
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: my belongings, Like I got to sleep on top of
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: my belongings.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like hugging your suitcas. Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was probably a time and a
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: place in life where it was safer, but now it's
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: just too scary out here. But I see it. So,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: it says the one hotel in Postano was lovely with
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: beach access and a big patty. Girl, what does this
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: got to do with the scam? Okay, so she said
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: she was at a nice spot. I'm skipping ahead a
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: little bit, Madly. I appreciate you painting a picture, but girl,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: we got we got things to do. So she says,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: she said, this Q spot and Persano and there's this
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: man and he's like playing the piano and it's so beautiful,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: and Madeline says she started paying attention and looking at
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: what he was playing, and then more importantly watching his
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: pants on the keyboard. He wasn't actually playing the music.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: He had pre programmed tunes and would hit play and
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: then just dramatically mashes ray around the keys with a
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: beautiful sense of drama.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I've seen those scam.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I've seen those grand pianos and hotel lobbies that are playing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: They never have a person behind them because they're they
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: play by themselves. Wow, that's that's I mean, how do
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: you sleep at night?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I love it because I love a street performance.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I had a girl that I knew doing comedy. She
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: told me that she made her money in New York City,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: like playing her guitar in the subway, and she said
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the way to do it, like she would pay rent
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: off of this. The way to do it is like
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: so I was always thinking, like the girls don't ever
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: have nothing in the little guitar case, Like it'll be
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: like maybe a one, it's a you know, maybe it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a five. And she was like, oh, that's on purpose.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: So you never want to have too much money in
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the bowl because people will be like, oh she got
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it today, Like I don't have priver, no money. She rich.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And then if you don't have enough, they're like oh,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: she asked, ain't nobody tipping? Like I'm not giving her
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: my money. But if you have like one five dollar bill,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that says somebody thought you was popping. And then like
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: to a couple of one, she said like that's the key,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: that's what you really want to keep in there so
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: we start getting more. Yeah, you take it out. When
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you get more, you take it out and you leave that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like she ain't got enough. She only got
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: eight dollars, so I should tip. But you know what
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, So I get it. There's a lot of
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: street performers and I stream. I've seen street performers New
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: York performing on the train platform and then I saw
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: them like later on the Voice and shit like so so.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the street performers here are like top, top notch.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a waiting list to get in the subway.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: And then you know, they started making professional banners for them,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: which to me kind of took the fun out of it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Like if you have a professional banner given by the
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: New York City you know, Arts Commission or something, that
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: kind of takes the fun out of me wanting to
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: support you because now I know New York City is
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: behind it, Like I want to believe that you are
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: struggling easy, even if you're not. Even if I go
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: to your Instagram and you have a million followers, which
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: is very common here in New York City.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to get on the train, and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: this time for showtime and there's like a warm up comic. Oh,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: like hey y'all, ya saw the Metro went up twenty
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: five cents in a few minutes. I'll be bringing out Showtime.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: They're all named Showtime, no matter who they are, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: they'll be pole dancing on the train. But but yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want it to be commercialized
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: New York State, that's wag. I don't want to see
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: an official banner. I want to feel like the cops
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: could come any time and they gott to just pick
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: up their ship and.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Run like exactly.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. Honestly, I don't want to see more
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: than one amp. I'm like, if it's giving studio quality,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? Like it's super professional. So yeah,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I'm with you on that career. That's that's a little
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: too much for me. So he's obviously like playing around
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So Madeline says, I went up to him
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: when he was on break and I told him in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Italian because my study abroad scam, you know, that's what
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: she was studying, was at Taliana. She said the songs
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: were beautiful, but his theatrics were even more impressive. That's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: what she told him. He sort of looked at me
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: for a minute and then busted out laughing and confirmed
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that yes, he was just faking his way through. The
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: hotel paid him the fake play for tourists, and it
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: was a great gig. More power to him. Wow.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: So and they probably paid him way less because it
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: wasn't an actual magician.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Magician, he was magician.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a magician.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: He wasn't a musician, right right, They get paid less.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So this is actually not an uncommon scam. If you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: see street musicians, take a look at what they're actually doing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: We have a guy here in town who sets up
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: with a violin in a store parking lot and pretends
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to play some truly schlocky violin tunes. But if you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: look carefully, he's not playing the violin. It's just music
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: coming out of his speakers. He gets a good amount
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of money, though, and more than what he would get
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: just panhandling. It's a good grave, Okay, I like it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna start looking at musicians on the street way now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I never looked at the fingers like I never because
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, of course they're playing, why would they not.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: It's New York. Everyone has got passion.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to knock their hustle.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of I honestly think they deserve the money.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: They deserve the money.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Because they are to me, like lying is so stressful
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: and there's so many things that you have to remember
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: and follow, and so to fake, to go through faking
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: it for that long is a performance and a skill
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: in and of itself. So I think they deserve the
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: money just as much as a musician.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can you walk to a concert and people
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: are lip syncing, which the girls lip sync at the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: concerts all the time, or there's usually always a backing track.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It's like you're still watching them bop around and walk around,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and you know they're giving you something. You're getting some entertainment.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So I like this. Also, like if you have a
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: guitar and you never learned, or if you have something
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a keyboard, y'all get out there with your speaker and
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: start playing. Just play the music through the speakers and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: just mash away like Beethoven and see how much money
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you get. Like it sounds like a way that we
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: could all get involved.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, listen, there's a whole there's a whole TV
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: shows dedicated to lip syncing. Like, I feel like faking
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: a guitar is gonna be on you know, a network
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: next week, So just get ahead, start.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Exactly, Like, I see nothing wrong with this, especially I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: think the violin is probably the best one to do
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: because the piano and the guitar, like even the untrained eye,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like I know where all the chords are, like I
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: had to learn that, you know, and from choir and shit.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So I can probably tell if you're not actually playing
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the song. But if you're on the violin, I ain't
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: got no clue. You just move him fingers around and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: just you know, give me a little neck action, make
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: sure that neck is really rubberend. You know, you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you just got to a little network. That's all. It
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: is a little network and a little movement.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just so Yeah, as someone who plays the violin,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: you can definitely fake playing the violin because like I
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: would even fake it sometimes when in orchestra the music
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: would get too difficult for the performance, I would fake
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: it because it's more important to look good in the
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: performance than to sound good. Because I knew there was
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: other people in the orchestra who knew how to play better.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: So I was like, no, I'm just gonna look good,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and everyone did. They commented after the show. They were like,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Karen looks really good up there. I'm like, yeah, I
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: was faking it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: That's why I hope you were first chair. Scam, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: hope you were first chairing. You were like they.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Were just like she was second chair.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, is that's still good.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Second chair is the best one. Less pressure, way.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Less pressure. First chair gotta play second chairs, just back
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and doing vibes, doing doing the neck, giving a serious face,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: giving us face, giving us face and neck and a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: little bit of harm. Yeah, okay, all right, y'all get
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: out there and get y'all violince and get a viola,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: get some shit that people nobody's gonna know. Get a harp,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just start rubbing. Nobody knows
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on with the harp.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Bish.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: If you get out here and you sexy and you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: look cute and you just rub your hands on the harp,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I will believe it. There is a black, sexy harpist
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: who really plays the harp. But she's so fine, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: she has so many Instagram followers because she's fine as
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: hell's harp. But I couldn't. She could literally be playing nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'd just be like, look at her. All fine, just
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: rubbing on this huge harp, like, yes, you better rub
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it so funny. I feel like we can all get
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: involved in this guy's You know you need some extra coins,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: y'all get out there, go rind an instrument and a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: speaker and get it popping. Rub run. I'm as Riguel
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Corina Christina with a famous con caper group of criminals.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Actually today, I'm doing this, and honestly, I don't like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: peer pressure. I don't like to be bullied by the congregation,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: but I am doing a recap episode because you guys,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: for those of you who are not OG's of the congregation,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you do not know that we've already covered all of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: these scams. Uh, but there have been some developments, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna go back. We're gonna talk about the developments, uh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the where are they now? The where are the girls?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about Anna Deelvi, We're gonna be
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: talking about my queen, Lizzie Holmes, and uh, Simon Levinson,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Simon Levison, Shamon the Tender Swoman, which you guys can't
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: get enough of, which, guys, again, Miles Grade, I re
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: released the episode from the paywall. I think it was
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: like our third episode, so it's out there. You can
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: go back and get into that as well. Uh so
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna start with Anna. So obviously this has been
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. Shonda Rhimes created a television show about Anna Sorokan,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: who was Anna Delvi. Uh if you don't know about Anna,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: she was a woman who moved to New York. Y'all
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: are a New York based so you know, I know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you guys know the scene. And she came out there
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and she pretended to be a socialite. She did a
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: lot of wire fraud, and she you know, cajoled the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: rich girlies and to giving her coins for her social
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: elite club that she was supposedly going to be making.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I know her story.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Oh you don't know about Anna, No, no, but I've
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: seen it. I've seen that the thumbnail for that TV
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: show everywhere. I'm like, oh, who is this woman? Yes?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, inventing Anna. Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't know the whole story either, but it makes
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: sense because I was like, socialites is a is a
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: long way from the life that I lead.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So, oh, y'all weren't seeing her at the Cigar Club, y'all?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Were You don't even know what the cigar club is. Anna,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I'll see her chipotle, she goes.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: No, I'll set out there. Yes, so a little background,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: we have a picture. We'll get the picture up for
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: y'all since, Uh, that's lovely. I love that you guys
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: don't know much about Anna. She's all in those guys.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: So now she's thirty one and more widely known as Annadelvi.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So she was a Russian born German con artist. So
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: she's the one on the right, she's the one with
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the brown hair.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she got scammy eyes.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: She really does. It looks like nothing's behind them.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Right, like Elizabeth Holmes, like dead and the eyes yes.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's no soul back there, you know, like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the brain is working, but the soul is like we
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we ain't here.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Girl, Yeah we left a while ago.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And that was actually one of my favorite things about
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Anna is during her sentencing she spoke after she was
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: sentenced obviously now before and she said, you know, I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: not I regret nothing. I'm not a good person. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I love that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Ye really owning herself.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Wow, Like too many bad people are presenting to be
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: good people. If you bad, just say that, Yeah, you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you'll still have friends people like some people have bad people.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might have more friends and you'll
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: definitely have more girlfriends if you're a guy.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So right, and let's not especially in comedy, we know
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: so many bad, nasty men who are out here getting
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a coin in a check and still on stage talking
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: about cancelation by they're still making money. People love bad people.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Just come out and.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Say you're bad, you are correct ray and at least we.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Can avoid you if we want to, if we want
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to hang out with your can right, I think that's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: just fair. So from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen, she
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: lived among New York's wealthy elite, pretending to be a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: German ers. She was defrauding hotels, banks, and acquaintances. She
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: was eventually caught and arrested in twenty seventeen after a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: trip to Morocco gone wrong and several evictions. So, in short,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: she would go to these hotels and she, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: she had the drip, She had the costume of a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: rich person. So she's wearing the latest label. She's giving
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: you the Gucci Findi's the Pradas, a lot of you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and she would give out one hundred dollars bills as
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: tips to the weight staff, like it was nothing. But
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the hotel would be like okay, Anna, like but what
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: about the room though, And she'd be like, oh, why
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: are clowns in the wire, like why our transfer will
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: come to you? So do not talk to be amount
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of money. That's weird. You need money? Are you poor?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Like she would gas like them and be like it's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: good to know that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you always hear about men gas lighting. I'm like, yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: good for you, girl.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: True feminism, more women in gas lighting. But also that's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just a tool.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It is her accent actually that thick in real life.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It's it's a little weird. I think that the actress
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: who played her, which I noticed girl's name and it
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: is fleeting me right now because she also is in Ozark.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: What is that girl's name? Anyway, she played her. People
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: are like this accent is weird. We don't know if
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it's it, and it actually, like she said, she studied
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the girl and if you hear Annadelbie talk, it is
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a weird European. We don't know where she's from accent Julia.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Garden German, German and Russian. That's too separate. That's very different.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I imagine if she's she.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Said, I'm from all countries in Europe, Ravens simonas from
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: all countries in Africa, an adelbe from all countries in Europe.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I took me out and I love I love the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: gas flighting of like you need to talk about money,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like why do you need money so bad? And especially
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Amerrican thing like especially like I knew you guys, know
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: as people who probably freelance at some point if you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: work in comedy or you know, gotten paid for a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: gig or whatever, and even acting. One of the things
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: especial when I was coming up is like I would
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: do something, they'd be like the net is like thirty
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: or the net is forty five or like, and that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: means like when they do their payroll, like when you'll
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: get paid for the actual job. Sometimes you'd be waiting
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: months after you did a job to get paid. And
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: if you would hit them up, they'd be like, I mean,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: do you need money? Like why are you hitting it?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Like are you brother?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Do you get guilty?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, do you need money?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Do you have money? Are you?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I did the job? Yeah?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And you gaslight. The gas lighter boom.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Right, And that's just the truth. But that's such a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: tool that people use in our country. So I love
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that she was using it back on the hotels, like
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: why are you talking to me about money? Like this
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: is a hotel you don't have mommy, I said this
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the wire, So she would tell the girls the wires
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: were coming, the wires. She ain't ever been near a wire.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: So eventually she was caught and arrested. In twenty seventeen,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: she was indicted on multiple counts of grand larciny and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was found guilty of eight charges. In twenty nineteen, the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: once wealthy socialite of downtown New York was incarcerated at
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Rikers O Rikers, Rikers, that's just prison, prison.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: My friend used to work as a security guard Rikers.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: He was like one year that was all I could do.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, ugh, security, you're responsible for keeping people in Rikers.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Oh no, yep, if any more than just the water.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: If I was security at Rikers, I would definitely get
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: fired because the girls would be climbing over the fence.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, what do you want me to do?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, hands. I need to get right. Do you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: know what they make weapons out up in here? Everything?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I saw somebody stab somebody with bread. I said, hey,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you get bread hard enough to stab? No? No, could
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: have been me.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Wait, so did she get out?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Is she?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Where the hell is she now?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: So she was found guilty of the a charges in
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. She I believe she is still in the prison.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: So the one wealthy socialide of downtown New York was incarcerated,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and then she was given a sentence of four to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: twelve years in state prison and fined twenty four thousand
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: dollars in order to pay restitution for one hundred and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: ninety nine thousand dollars. She served two of those years
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and was given an early release. However, she was arrested
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: six weeks later by Ice for unintentionally overstaying her visa.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Now what she got on two years they let her out?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Said that much money though, to ruin your whole life,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of not impressed by one hundred and ninety
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: nine thousand dollars.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, it was more than that. She stole more
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: than that. That's what she had to pay in restitution.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Now for me, she's doing hand to hand interpersonal scams.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: She's telling these people, I'm gonna start the social club.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Give me the coins for the social club. She had
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: applied for loans at banks and faked collateral saying that
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: she had money coming from her father, and faked all
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: these bank statements and shit. So that's really what she
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: got into the trouble. But for me, it's like if
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: somebody asked me for money, much like the guy on
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the street who said that his wife needed surgery, Like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and I give the money and she don't need the surgery.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to send people to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: jail for that. But she's fucking with banks. So when
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the fd I see it gets involved.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, after the government's like, don't please, don't screw over
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: these poor banks.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: They can't handle they can't take the loss.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just mister Bank of America crying on the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: witness stamp.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I wonder if she like changes her look.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I guess like after you are known for a scammer,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: you just like cut your hair or dye your hair,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: get color contacts or something.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think she's trying to change her look.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Anna's into the fame, She's into the cloud. She wants
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the girls to know that it would tell them it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: was me. You know, she's in jail, Like tell them
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it was me.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And what's also interesting to me about this is like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: how is Ice gonna pull up first of all ices? Ass? Fuck? Ice? Yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: but this woman was in prison. How A'm gonna be like, well,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you didn't find your paperwork to keep your vs. The current.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: She was in the jail right right, She had no reach,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: there was no paper. They wouldn't give her a pen.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: She was studying abroad at Rikers right right, That island
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: has no writing utensils.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: So as of February twenty twenty two, Anna is still
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: in custody at this time in an Immigration and Customs
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Enforcement jail sale in upstate New York, waiting to see
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: if she'll get deported back to Germany. In exchange for
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the rights to her story, Netflix played Anna three hundred
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars to produce the limited series Inventing Anna. Now, Anna,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I think you got scamm because three hundred twenty.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: K that's not a lot.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: That's not enough, says Nephlix, gonna get the bag and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: they run a their prices up.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I think you right right, Yeah, they're monthly. Their monthly
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: price just went up. Actually, well, she probably didn't have representation,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: so when she probably didn't have an agent to be like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: we need to ask for more.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, you should use your one phone Calliday to like
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: hit up at entertainment.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: It's so funny that she's like in jail and then
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Netflix is, you know, just getting celebrated for making this
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: documentary or I mean this not this series, the scripted series,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: when they're giving money to this person who was arrested
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: for scamming out people.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: No one ever.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: People always are very selective about who they place blame on.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: So that's very funny to.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Me, right, So she used the funds to pay back
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: her victims in full, but apparently there was not enough
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: for Ice. So in a letter published shortly before the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: release of the show, Anna details her recent experience saying
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I am here because I am here because Immigration and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: custom Enforcement decided that my early marriage release from prison
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: means nothing to them, despite being perfectly self suffic when
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I left on my own devices, They're saying, I am
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a present and continuous danger to the community. Now, I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: will say, Anna, you came over here on a visa.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing I think on visas in any country
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: is don't do no crime in the country.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Right, And that's that's pretty fair. That's a fair ask.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Like, that's like just like number one. They're like, don't
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: do no murders, and you know, and also don't do
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: no other crimes.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Right, because then what we don't want. You're not a
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: welcomed guest.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Right. This is like if you're a guest at somebody's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: house and you steal all a silverware, it's.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, girl, Like they they don't want you to
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: come to their party, right, It's.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Like, we invite you to the part of girl and
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you stole my TV Like, yeah, we're upset.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: She's so detached from reality. That's so funny. Holy shit,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: that's really funny.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So she also goes on to describe that she hasn't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: seen a doctor in years despite having contracted COVID in January,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: as well as her frustrations with the bureaucracy affecting her detainment.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: The most recent twist from Ice is that this is
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: her again. The most recent twist from Ice is that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting since November for a decision to reissue
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a letter that never arrived here. So basically, she ain't
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: getting mailed. She's just wanting to get the letters. And
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: as Inventing Anna is released, it's still unknown whether Anna
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: will be deported back to her home country. So when
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it was dropped on Netflix, she's sitting in entertainment at
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: ICE waiting to see if they're gonna send her back
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to Germany.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Wow, so she didn't get to go to the premiere.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: No, she did not get to walk the carpet, which
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: is unfortunate. I feel like Ice could have gave her
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a furlough to go to Hollywood and hit the carpet.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just real quick and then come back.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Right. They got Ice attention in La for sure, Like
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: she just transfer over here real quick. Take somebody with her.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody at ICE, you know, fuck up ass
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Ice would love to go to a Hollywood premiere, you know,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: get some free cocktails or some crew to tabitch like
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it could have been a moment. I'm a little upset
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that it didn't happen. But yeah, Anna lives in infamy
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: just because a lot of people are very obsessed with
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the fact that she tricked so many rich people. You know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: she had a trainer, a guy who's pretending to be
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: her trainer. Like, there were so many people who made
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: her seem rich. And she got arrested after the Morocco
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: situation because what happened was is she went to Morocco
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: were homegirl, and then she had got this resort and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: said she was paying for it, you know, bing bang boom.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: The resort is like, hey girl, y'all haven't actually paid
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: for the rooms and whatnot, and like, we need currency
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and she was like, I have currency. It's coming in
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the wire. Just stand next to the telephone pole. It'll
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: be here soon. And they were like, girl, we need
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: some collateral. And so her homegirl was like, oh, well,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I'll just put down my card from her job. She
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: was like, I'll put out my company ammex as as
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like a hold. And she's like and she was like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna charge it, right, And they're like, yeah, yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna charge it. And of course Anna's like, yeah,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: they're not charge money comes soon, you see. And then
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of course by the time they end the trip, the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: car get is charged in full, like eighty grand for
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: this true eighty and then homegirl went back to her
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: job and they say, hey, this, we're looking at your
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: car charges for the month, and how many times did
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you go to Panera with on work business?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Because it's one million times?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Eighty grand is a lie for work lunches, just so
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so she got in trouble, and so
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that's when she reported the fraud and everything because but
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: also like, I don't know if that's girl, you volunteered
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: your card. It's not like you to get out.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Of your purse, right because the tenders, how do you
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: say it's fraud when it's like, oh, I had to
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: pay for a vacation.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I also went on, that's fraud. That's yeah. I didn't
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: know I could use that as an excuse on vacation.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna start calling AMEX with some new shit, like.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Because they got the good coverage, I'm like.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: How about these Gucci loafers without looking at the tag egg,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that's fraud because if I had known how much that
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: bot them. No, they didn't put they didn't put a
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: price tag on it. They just rang it up. She
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: already had my car. So anyways, AMEX, Yeah, that wasn't me.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: It was a sales associat right.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that. I feel like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: if you volunteer your card.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: You're liable.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just to taste liability. So let's move on to
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Lizzie Holmes. Uh, Lizzie Holmes. If you guys don't know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: she's the queen behind Fire.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And Elizabeth Holmes. Yes, I'm obsessed with her.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. And for you guys, if you don't know about
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Lizzie Holmes, out there, my good sister. She was in
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the Silicon Valley. She was giving us a tech costume.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: She was giving us an accent. Lizzie would lower her
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: voice so that she sounded more masculine. She wore the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: black turtleneck Steve Jobs, you know, uh cartoon character wardrobe.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Dead in the eyes, Dead in the eyes.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So she had the whole uniform, and her whole
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: thing was the tiny thing, That's what I call it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So the tiny thing was this little thing that held
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: blood that supposedly you could take a pin prick from
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: someone's finger, put the blood in the tiniest thing, and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: then run it through the tiny thing three thousand, which
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: she called the Thomas Edison and then it would tell
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you everything about your blood, your DNA, like what diseases
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you got, which you you know all of this from
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: this one blood prick of the tiny thing. And here
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: we have over here in the corner we have photos
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of her holding up the tiny thing. Now, what I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: love about this is because it was it was borderline comedy.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: She was like, I'm gonna go to Silicon Valley, I'm
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: gonna drop out school. I'm gonna do everything that the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: tech doos do. And then what is what's technology? Make
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a thing smaller? That's technology?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: She's right, she's yes, why I worked?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Probably that I yeah, because if somebody makes obviously if
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: she was onto something, this isn't. Yeah damn and the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: great the daday eyes dead in the eyes was so
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: like that would have made me. That's the only thing
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: that would have given her way. But she's so dead
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: in the eyes and her voice is so fucking weird
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: that I'm like, who what are you doing? Like she
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: just feels like she's in a play all the time.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like that made her relatable to men, because
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you know, there's so much intrinsic hate that men are
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: taught through misogyny, So just general in general hate women
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and anything associated with femininity. And so here you have
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: this woman who's like an amorphous, you know person, you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: like what's going on. It's dead behind the eyes, there's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: no none of that typical she's at warmth. Yeah, she's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: got the deep voice she keeps, you know, like and
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: she's I love it. I love everything about it. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: one of the great parts of this is too is
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like she had a lot of venture capitalists, people who
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: which basically means people with a lot of fucking money
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: who are just trying to make more money. And what
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: venture capitalists do is they take their cash, they spread
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it out through different investments. They know most of them
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: will fail, but it's just like gambling in the casino.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: If one hits, it makes up for all the money
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you sunk into some bullshit. So they're giving her coins
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and then they're like, okay, miss Lizzie, where's the Tiny Thing?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Like how does the word? We want a tour of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the Tiny Thing studios where we you know, your office space,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And so they went on the tour. If she made
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: it so secretive, if you went you had to have
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a bodyguard with you. You couldn't use a bathroom without
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the bodyguard like they were watching, because basically her whole
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: thing was it's like, I can't tell y'all how it
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: works because then somebody's gonna steal the tiny thing idea.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Fuck Pattens, I'm just gonna do it, very very smart.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It's genius, because how do you argue against that. She
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: was like, I would tell you how this is legitimate,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: but then you're gonna steal it and my tiny idea will.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Be gone, right right, Yeah, brilliant.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And people believe that she had a partnership with Walgreens,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: but they were like, we would like the tiny thing.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine getting your blood pricked at Walgreens for a.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Scam for nothing? For nothing, damn?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: And it ended up being that Walgreens was having they
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: were doing regular testing of the blood, but pretending that
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: they were using the Thomas Edison tiny Thing three thousand
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: because it wasn't working. But yeah, she had she had
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it all going. So the success was found on the
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: girl Bosh genius Lizzie Holmes, and it was heralded as
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: a revolutionary idea thought of by a woman Girl Boss
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: considered to be young Steve Jobs and oh is this
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: a court. Look, Marina that we have up right now. Yeah,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Lizzie's giving Lizzen decided to turn it for court. Okay,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: yeah she was. She was more browie when she was
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: doing the text stuff. When it was time to go
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to jail.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: She was like, well, here's a chameleon.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: She said, let me go to drybar real quick.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the when you go to court. Yeah, she
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: got the mouth like, I'm just a lady. I didn't
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: know what I was doing. But when you want to
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: sell people stuff and get a lot of money, you
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: have to go I know what I'm doing. I have
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: the tiny thing with me, right, I'm a tiny thing,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: masculine woman.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: But then at course she was like, I'm just the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: lady with the vagina brain. How would I know how
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to rib millions from in this? Yeah? I just have
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a blowout, y'all. What y'all talking about? So she was
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: the world's youngest female self made billionaire and Fairanos was
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: one of Silicon Valley's like Unicorn startups valued at nine
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: billion dollars. So at the height of this, at the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: height of the tiny thing, they were like nine billion.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that tells you.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: About valuation because it's like just like the stock market,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: like it's all vibes. Like when mister Big, who was
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: outed as a nasty man because Peloton can't get a break,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: shout out to anybody who work at advertisement a Peloton
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: because I know y'all stress smoking like three packs a day,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: just drinking whole vats of coffee. Because every time y'all
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: get on the fucking internet, they.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Like Silici's dying on your boy said, it's like their fault,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: not yours.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Oh man, every.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Time y'all get on the damn Internet, somebody did something
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the Peloton and but you know, and just like that
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the Sex and City reboot, when mister Big died on
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the Peloton, the stock dropped thirteen percent the next day.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Wow, So people do watch Sex in the City and
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: invest okay.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I guess they were like, oh no, we gotta get
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the sale that Peloton stock.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: And then after that they did the commercial with mister Big,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and then people were like, mister Bigg's a nasty man
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and he's doing the sauce. A Peloton was like, ah, hell,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: all right, we're back in the drawing room. Like I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: hate to be in Peloton's boardroom. Like, bah, that does suck.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Y'all just sit in their hend delete all day, Like
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll give her of that, Get rid of that,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: give rid OF's.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Like god, that's so fun.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: They're not paying y'all enough whatever it is. It's not
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: enough at Peloton. But so you know, it's all valuation.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: All this shit is vibes, because how are you valued
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: at nine million dollars and essentially all you have is
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: like an empty pill cap nine billion dollars.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: That's skillful stirrup of interest. Man, that is so much energy.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: You have to put it up to that ruise. That's
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: a dedication.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So it all got, you know, it came crashing down.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, the company came under investigation for its
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: medical claims. The company was exposed to be capable of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: creating the technology it said it was selling. Lizzie was
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: exposed as a grand architect of fraud. I love architect
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: of fraud.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: That's class, that's what it said.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to think that I have been
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: robbed by several architects of fraud.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes it feel like you were less naive.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Right, they got a degree, Right, they had drawings, they
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: mapped it out in fraud.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, a PhD in haquana ree. I love it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: That makes me feel better about anytime I've been scammed
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: an architect of fraud. She was ousted as CEO of
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the company and the company was forced to completely shut
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: down operations in twenty eighteen. That same year, of federal
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: grand jury indicted ms Holmes and former therapmost chief operating
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: officer and president Ramish known as Sonny Baiwani, on nine
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: counts of wire fraud and two counts of conspiracy to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: commit wire fraud. They both pleaded not guilty, so she's
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: indicted along with Sonny Biwani, who at the time is
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: her boothang. And one of the most embarrassing things during
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: this case was when they were reading the text messages
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: between him and her and there was a text that
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: literally if I saw them start to read this shit,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I would have got up and been like, Gil, I'm guilty,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I'm guilty. No, stenographer stopped typing like it's over, shut
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: it down, put the computer down, put the typewriter up,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like I would have just pushed the typewriter off the table,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: like no, because she had sent him the text like
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: you are my moon and my stars and you are
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: the light and like that, guys me like it was
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: real dramatical and it was really long. And Sonny responded
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: with okay.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Oh wow wow.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: And then she had a baby with somebody else.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you have to else. Wow.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I respect her like, uh, you know, willingness to move on.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's like you gotta leave after that, it's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: time to leave. But you know, so they were in
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: it together and they must have both known that this
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: was a scam, right, so they both beet not guilty.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: So where is she now, Lizzie? We just saw her
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: with her fresh blowout, which we would put on the scam.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Got his Instagram. She's wearing new threads. She's giving us
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: uh Shania Twain, I feel like a woman. And so
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: while waiting trial, Elizabeth married and had her first child
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: with hotelier Billy Evans. So he's an heir to hotels
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and and she could keep a rich man like wow,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I guess so look at this man. She said, Look,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I gotta pay these bills. So where is Lizzie hanging out? Lizzie?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Write the book What's the Sierra Prayer? Because I want
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: what I want to how does she get a quality dude?
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Wait what that guy's never gotten.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: This guy's the kind of average looking I think this
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: is the one on the right is just a good
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: photo of him. And also, if you're good at lying
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: in business, you're good at lying across the board most times,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: so he doesn't.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: You can convince awes he they married that Melissa's all
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: married that guy.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe he thinks she famous. You know what's crazy though?
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: This is why because Corren, you made a good point
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: in one photo, which let's make sure we have this
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: photo for the instagram. He looks like very corny regular
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: it's giving you know, hackies, right, it's giving I wear Dockers,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you know. And then in the other one he's giving
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: like Zaddy with his beard, Like is it the beard?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I don't like.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: That.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Hot is like almost a uniform, and any any man
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: goes up ten percent hotness when they're.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: In any kind of a uniform.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: It could be firefighter, it could be ups man, like
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: any uniform makes a guy look better.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Ups uniforse got hot.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It is brown with those cats.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: With the saw hot ups man.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Just today I was like, hell, yeah, I would do
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: it all hot too, And.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Their calves are always so good because you never seen him,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: because they always run away real fast when they bring
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the doorbell. And by the time you open the door
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: sometimes I run real quick, they're already gone. So those
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: calves are giving. Yeah, you're right about that. Yeah, because
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: he goes from looking like all American day and you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Dan played baseball in high school. He wasn't like good,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: but he played, and then and over to like this
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Zaddy who looks like almost like he's like a European
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: giving us some europe all countries in Europe. You know, Yeah,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: that's very deceiving. And then Elizabeth is looking a little
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: homely back there.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: As always yeah.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so she married this man. I just want
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to know where she hangs out. Where did you meet
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: these hotel heirs? Honey?
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I want to go out of jail.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, in January, Elizabeth was found guilty
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: on four charges of defrauding investors. She would found not
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: guilty on the three additional charges concerning defrauding patients and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: one charge of conspiracy to defraud patients. So what's funny
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: about this is that all the rich people got some justice,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and then all the patients who didn't really have the coins,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: who were also defrauded, got nothing.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Oh America, huh ah, yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Right, the poor venture capitalists. What else were they doing
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: with their bill?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad they got reimbursed.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Just wiping their tears will hundred dollar bills like I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: can't believe it, damn. So during the trial, several friends
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: and supporters arrived wearing black turtlenecks and their hair tied back.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Sorters.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, she had a girl gang. The tiny girls showed
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: up and they wore their black turtlenecks and they pulled
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: their hair back, and they showed up for their queen.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: Oh listen, there's always someone to support everyone. So Charlotte,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: this is.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: The lizards showed up and they said, no, not today. Okay,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: women deserve to be able to defraud the tech industry
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: like everybody else. Feminism.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Oh that is a good point.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: One performance arbist artist even set up a shop outside
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the courthouse selling blond wigs and black turtlenecks and blood
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: blood energy drinks.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I would have bought every single one,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: and then I would have been that's great.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, what a combo. He said, Hey, girl, I
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have synthetic wigs. I got black turtlenecks, and we go
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: all the way up to two eggs for thirty dollars,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: forty dollars and blood energy drinks because that's what you need.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: You need out an outfit for fun, right, and you
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: need some energy so you can be out here all
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: day standing for Lizzie. Okay, my god. So Elizabeth faces
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: up to twenty years in prisons, as well as a
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: fine of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars plus restitution
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: for each count, COVID complications, and her pregnancy because.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Remember she right, she did that on purpose.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Lizzie was like, I'm gonna get married, cook up a
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: baby real quick. Let me just state on the justice system.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's a lot of energy. Good for her, damn.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: And I love that because yeah, like she's a pregnant woman.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Y'all are really gonna put the pregnant woman in jail
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: for what a little some paper lies, So lies on paper,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: come on, guys, and widdleedny bottles, you know, just some tiny, little,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: very very tiny fraud, come on, guys. So because of
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: her pregnancy, the COVID complications, this all delayed the proceedings
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: but she's slated to be sentenced in September twenty twenty
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: two and remains free on half a million dollars bond,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure her hotel daddy got the coens.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no problem, Okay.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: She said, bond. Okay, Barry, we got it. Like wow, no,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that's nothing, say less and she cooking up a baby. Ooh,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: she did it right. I love this. And she came
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: looking to court with a blowout. No longer was she
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: wearing her hair slicked back. And then the black Turtle Max.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: She came with a blowout, and she went to Anne
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Taylor Loft and got a suit. Love this for her.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Hulo's doing a limited series called The Dropout based on
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Holmes's life. Amanda Seifred will be playing Elizabeth Holmes.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Is she I wonder if she's getting paid for that.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I wonder too, like did she sell the life or yeah?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Because well, the thing is is that you don't have
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: to pay people to I guess you can kind of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: just speculate on people's lives.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't know what those are.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either for the life rights versus like
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: if you do, cause I know like Pamela and Tommy
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Lee are not involved in the pam and Tommy show
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: on whoo right.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like authorized versus unauthorized. I believe that's
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: how it works for books at least, Like I only
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: know about this because like the Spice Girls and stuff,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: they made a lot of VHS's and books about them,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: and it was if it was authorized, they got paid.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: And when it's it would very clearly say unauthorized when
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: they weren't getting paid. But it wasn't illegal to do
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: it right to public figures.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: But it probably makes it more interesting or at least
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: more legitimate to the outside public if the person it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: based on it's like, yeah, go up, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: this is me Lizzie. So that's where Elizabeth is that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you know, she's out here with her baby and her
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: new rich man live in the good life. Shout out
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: to Lizzie. And last but not least, we're gonna visit
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Simone Timone, Simon Tramone. He saying he changed his name
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: from Shimone to Simon leviv Uh and you guys know
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: him as the tender Swindler. Y'all hit me up about
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: this all the time. I told you again the episodes.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: All right, I pulled it behind the paywall with Miles Gray.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Very fun. We talk about some things that are not
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: in the documentary, so it's fun. The Tender Swindler had
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: made headlines after a twenty twenty two Netflix documentary of
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the same name was released. There was also a big
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: article released under the same name, The Tender Swindler two
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and a half years before that, because that's where we
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: found out about our homie, Simone Timon. So he's been
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: out here in the streets for a minute, but the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: girls really found out from the the dung So. Shimon
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Hayut was known for engaging in deceptive courtship practices via
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the popular dating app Tender. In twenty seventeen, Shimone changed
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: his name to Simon Leviv and began calling himself the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: son of the Israeli Russian diamond tycoon Lev Leviv. I
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: love naming your kid lev Leviv, Like you were like,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: let's just keep it going Jewish Mcjewan share we go, Yeah,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: great beautiful name. So on Tender, he presented himself as
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a wealthy heir living a life of luxury, seeking beautiful,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: wealthy women to join his lafstand. So I just don't
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: know if billionaires are on tender. I they don't.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Actually are they?
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: No, but maybe millionaires I don't know in New York
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: City on Hinge.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: I mean I'm sure maybe like someone who wanted to pretend,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: like like, oh, let me see what it's like to
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: be a peasant for a day on.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Riyah, like the best you're going to get as a DJ.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I can't imagine they're on tender.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Christina, thank you for saying it, because I have a
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Riah and I said, where where are the girls that
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I was promised? Because all I'm saying is Equinox trainers
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: and consultants.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, I'm watch him for celebrities, right.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: I never seen celebrities on Riya, but like they never
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: you never match with them.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I never.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: The only one I saw who I saw Trevor Noah
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: and I was like yeah, yeah, but I'm like that
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: could have been a fake profile because all the followers
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: were professional and I'm like, fucking Riah if he tricked me,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: but you know, he never.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: He never wrote back.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Damn, that's wait. But it was a match because you
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: got there's not a matter right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, oh, no, I didn't. I didn't match for them.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I did not match with them. No, I would have
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: like never forgotten that if I did. Holy shit. Yeah.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, So you know, I've just never seen like
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: a billion of millionaires maybe like celebrities for sure, but
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: like I know what, really, I actually know this that
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: there are people in the industry. I know certain people
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in the industry who their whole kind of flecks and
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: little hustle is is like they know all the bad
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: bitches in whatever area. Like there's a woman who knows
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: all the bad bitches in Houston, there's a woman who
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: knows all the babbages in New York. And like celebrities
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: will have contact with these people and they'll be like, oh,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: we having a party, like bring the bad bitches, and
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: then they show up with the baddies, you know what
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I mean. So they know how to find they don't
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: have to go to the bar, you know what I mean.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Like Drake loves to go to a Hooters on Peach Street,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: but you know most of the girls, they know how
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: to find the girlies without apps. So that was already
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: like flag number one. After several months of dating, he
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: would then suddenly disappear, claim he's in grave danger and hiding,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and then ask for thousands of dollars to save his life.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: On top of it, like with evidence, he would send
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: photos of his bodyguard Peter bloodied in the back of
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: an ambulance, claiming an attempt had been made on his life.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So this is Peter mm hmm, his bodyguard.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I love his acting.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: He was like, oh, this hurts so good.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: He's like midwinds flight across his forehead.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: And a little bit on the pillow, so you know
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: he was bleeding for a minute.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: The pillows.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Right. I wonder if they how much they pay this
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: ambulance guide to take a quick pick, right?
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Or was this like the one time that he got
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: injured and they just keep reusing this photo on all
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: the girls that he's hitting on. They're like, look, we're
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: in danger. Look at my bodyguard. He's saying ow while
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I took the photo, Like why are you taking this photo?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: While this man is lud It's like, hold still, Peter,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you blurry, Hold on, I'm gonna.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Light you got a hold.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: We gotta see the blood. Can you hold Joe camer
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: light up while I take a bit your repeater, okay
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: one on three say pain one two three pain. So
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: then he sends this to the girls. This scheme eventually
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: became the sort of Ponzi scheme, leading Simon to become
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: wanted by innerpol in seven different countries because he would
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: hit them up and be like, I need y'all to
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: give me the money so I can pay these girls off.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: The girls naturally would send their cards and would begin
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: he would begin like racking up massive bills while pressuring
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: them to send more money. So he was like, please,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: like hit the AMX, take out a payday loan, like
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: they're after me, and it's like I thought you had money.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I thought you were like a part of the diamond,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: like the diamond king, Like you know family, Like why
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: do you mean my coins? Can't you just get Daddy
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: to give you a rock and you could go upon it?
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Like what's going on?
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? His enemies, his enemy.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Shut his cards off? What who are times that he is?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: He has stated his that talked about his enemies.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: It's like all right, that one I would eventually not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: have fallen for that event. After like the twentieth time
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: he said my enemies, I'm like, ah, right, this is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: something special.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And what's the vague idea of enemies just just general enemies,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Like who are these people? It's be like my haters,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: my haters cut off my cars? Who are these people?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Why are they mad at you? Right right? Give me
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: a name, Terrence my enemy, Like like it's just a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: little too vague. The three women featured in the documentary Cecil, Panela,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that first name is Panilla and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Aileen collectively gave Simon over five hundred thousand dollars money
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: that was never seen again. Five half a million dollars
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: to a man. Yeah, he to a man.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate, like what, you know, his long game.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that long.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: But like, if I'm going to be in a private
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: first of all, I mean I would luckily, when I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: was watching this, I'm like, all right, I would have
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: known billionaires have matchmakers, so already you're bull of shit.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: So that's that.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Luckily, I wouldn't have fallen for that in my thirties
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: and my twenties. But if I'm already on the private jet,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I mean that's a big And then he like he
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: whined and dining for like a month.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how he would get them, because the Ponzi
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: scheme of it all was he was taking the money
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: that he had just gotten from the last chick that
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: he ghosted, and he would use that money to flex
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: on the next chick that he plans to rob. So
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the second day he's like, hop on the jet, baby,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: go into grease. And you know you're like, this man
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: much be rich. I'm on a jet. You know I'm
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: going to my PJ is on a PJ.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's such a slug.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: The picture of him in Israel when he was living
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: with his mom, who hates him now, is so funny.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Like he was like chunky and just like a shitty
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: beard and like not stylish glasses like I like the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: eyeglasses of like the like the mathematician war in high school.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Like it's just he's not sexy enough for this, Like
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: this man is not fine enough to get a single
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: coin out of me. Like we could park and he'd
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: be like I need a quarter for the meter and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I'd be like I ain't got it and I started walking.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: My person's like he ain't got no change. You're not
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: getting it from me, sir. Not a dime so where
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: he is now. After the release of The Tenderswim their documentary,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Simon was permanently removed from the dating app So Tender said,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: my name is Bennet, We're not in it, and neither
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: is Simon. He refused to be interviewed by any outlets.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: He disappeared for a certain time. However, he's recently given
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: an exclusive exclusive interview to Inside. Addition, during the interview,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: he maintained he was just a single guy that wanted
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to meet some girls on Tender and get a lot
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: of money from them. His quote ends at tender, but
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: we know the rest. He's denied all allegations, including that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: he ever presented himself as a son of a diamond mogul.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Simon claims he's funded his lifestyle through investing in bitcoin
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: in twenty eleven when its value was less than ten cents.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: He's currently dating Israeli model Kate Canolan.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, Kate, why she's so hot too? I saw a picture.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this motherfucker's not in jail.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: And then not only that, he has like Ferrari's in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: a model girlfriend.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, come on girl.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Kate claim says she's never given Simon any coins and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: accused of three featured victims as faking a giant story.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would fake this story because
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: it's kind of embarrassing for them.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, yeah, you gotta admit your night's about being
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: a straight guy. You can always find a woman who
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: will side believe you, Like every time, there's always there's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: always someone who will side where.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Side right.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: And then also like this woman gets to speak for
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: all women, like she's just one random woman. These three
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: women have very similar stories and they gave him a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: lot of money. Though he's deleted his Instagram. Simon has
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: also signed with a talent manager, Gina Rodriguez of ga Toni, Inc.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: In hopes of pursuing a career in the entertainment industry. Well,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: we know the man is good at lyes. You know
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: what career?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: What does he want to do? Oh my god? What
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: the fuck? Oh my god.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Additionally, he's joined can be hosting a game show next year.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah please cameo.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Yep. For three hundred dollars, you can have a personalized
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: video message. And for fourteen hundred dollars you can have
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: business ones from shamone si Mo.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: That's a great cameo. That's a great birthday idea.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Shit right, you said it to us, Like, hey baby,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: it's me Simon, I love you. If you send me
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, we can.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Be like, yeah, that's exactly what I would ask him,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: request that he say, like I would request like him,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: tell tell me about your enemies.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh yes, the enemies. We do. We
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: do want to know about the enemies. Simon's ex bodyguard,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Peter or Petour, has filed a cease and desist against
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Netflix for the depiction of him as a knowing accomplice.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: To Simon, it's like maybe he didn't. Maybe he wasn't
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: knowing he had to be annoying accomplish now.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: New, So for you, I have some idea something.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: So for what he characterizes as an irreparable harm to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: his reputation and career, he's asking for five million euros
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: about five point six million dollars. If you're a bodyguard,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: you what you're talking about. Nobody is checking a bodyguard's resume.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: If you show up large, they will let you to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: guard the das to any king.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just scare one person and you're in.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you show up big, they'll be like, you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: have the job. I don't think that they're checking references,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Like they're not calling the last club you're at, like, hey,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: forty forty was he was Peter our Bodyguarden good was.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: They don't care. Though Simon has never been charged outside
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: of Israel, Cecily, Pranilla, and Eileen are still paying off
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: their debts and have started to GoFundMe. So now the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: girls are like, can y'all fund us so that we
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: can run amex back their coins. Oh, they've made it
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: up to one hundred and sixty four thousand euros as
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: of today.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: That's wow. That's impressed of I have a picture of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: a hot girl? Will do? Netflix should pay them, But
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Right, I guess they had to appear for free for
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: it to be like the docu style, because I think
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: if you pay people in that style, then it's like
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: not seen as legitimate.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense. Yeah, that makes a lot of.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Sense, because then you could be like coercing them to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: say certain things or whatever. So I think that's kind
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: of one of the stippy relations. And then when asked
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: if he felt bad for what he did, Simon said,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for something, he said, I feel bad
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: for something that I didn't do. No, I feel bad
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: for whatever happened to myself.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Rip Shimon.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: So now what happened to you?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Oh man, you stole a lot of money.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything happened to you, sir. You know what, Simon,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: he probably gonna be on our movie theater screens very soon.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: The way America set up, this man is gonna have
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: the best career out there. It's time for the end
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: of the shows Camera of the week. This is where
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: we highlight a Charlottean who's worthy of our praise. Or
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: maybe not, we will see. Today we're talking about Chinese
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: students zo Ya Chi, who spent twenty one days eating
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: free food, staying at luxury hotels and using VIP lounges
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: and facilities, and wearing expensive clothes and jewelry without spending
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: a dime as part of an art project for her school.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Oh that's great, I love this chick.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: That's a good art project, she said. So all she
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: had to do was pretend to be wealthy Beijing social life.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: That's all she had to do. So she pull it off.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Zou wore expensive looking clothes and a fake iermez bag.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: She published it in a post saying it's interesting how
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: these materials are distributed. They are usually assigned to people
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: who look like they already have a sufficient amount of
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: wealth and life. So during one of her outings, she
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: walked into a Louis Vuitton store where she was immediately
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: shown a fourteen hundred dollars handbag and offered an invitation
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: to an exclusive exhibit. The rest of her time, she
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: stayed in VIP lounges, eating from their buffets and sleeping
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: on their new couches. So she would sleep in the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: hotel lobby, but because she had a burken they were like,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, let her nap.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Why that's all it takes, huh shit?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: And she was twenty three years old. She filmed the experience,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: which premiered at the Central Acconomy of Fine Arts in Beijing.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: So obviously this is a class thing and we all
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: know about this. If you come in showing up like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: a vagrant off the streets, no they're not gonna let
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: you sleep on their couch. But if you in Gucci
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: and gold and a ermaz and like she's tired from
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: carrying her hermas all day, just somebody get her a blanket.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Right, So what was she something?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Did she scam these hotels out of staying there, scam
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: people out of paying her?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Did she was she a legitimate an art project?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: She was scamming, so it was an art project for her.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: But obviously she also did run a little grip. She
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: would just show up looking fine, and she's a cute
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: girl and looking rich, and so she'd go to the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: bar and people would pay for her drinks. So she
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: would go to events and they'd be like, come on here, girl,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: free food, feed drinks. So she'd go to the hotel
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: and they'd be like, yeah, this is our fainting couch,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: go off sis like, and they just let her do whatever.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I think this is an excellent scam.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good b Yeah, and under the guise.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Of education, which it is. I mean, it's just it's already.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: But it's like, is this something that we didn't know already?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Girl?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Right? Right?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Right? That's more of a tip, like a hot tip, right.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: That classism exists, and that it's just like rich people
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: get free stuff, you know, but they don't give the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: free stuff to the poorest. They're like, you pay right now,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: oh right, this way miss Knowles, we have a for you.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Just take a picture next to the boat.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, tag us.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: So it's all yours, tag us, and you can have
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: this home, like you know what I mean, Like we
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: all know about this, but I think this is cute.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: It's just but I also think it's a bit of
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: a scam because it's like, baby girl, we already knew this,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: but I love this for you. So here she is
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: sleeping at the hotel. She's charging her phone. Oh, she
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: got her burking with her. At the gym.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, she's working out with shoes on.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: She's in the sauna right now, still with her birken. Damn,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: she was sleeping everywhere. She was sleeping in the gym. Okay,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: she's putting the food in her pryers to the couch.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: She's trying on These are real diamonds. They're like, yeah,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: you can put this on. Oh damn, free samples everywhere
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: she's going. I mean, yes, I'm not mad at it.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was some information that we
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: didn't already have, but good for her for putting a
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: light on classism whilst getting free things. Guys. That brings
• 1:09:57
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