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PODCAST: Episode 949 - Steve Von Till and Noah Landis on Neurosis’ Return and New Album · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  I guess the first thing I want people to know is that none of
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  this would have been possible if Aaron Turner wasn't a really
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  sweet, kind, special human being.
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  That was hugely important and it felt really, really good.
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  Right away we never sat down with a big list of people and
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  like that just is not our vibe. It had to be.
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  It had to be the the right personality wise, It had to be
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  the right human being, you know, and our only he was really like
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  the kind of the the only name, the only even idea that that
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  stuck. But we are necessarily like
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  that's too obvious. I can't you know, Aaron Turner's
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  too. Like that's like we'll never
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  hear the end of the Neurasis jokes.
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  What's up everybody? It's Kefi from ghostcultmag.com.
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  I am super stoked today to be joined by Steve Von Till and
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  Noah Landis of Neurosis. That feels so good to say.
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  How are you? Good, man, Good.
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  Thanks for having us. Always, always a pleasure,
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  Steve. We've talked many times and over
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  the years and and you know, ghost cult originally I, Noah
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  may not know this ghost cult was founded as kind of a Zine in the
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  Netherlands and I took it over during the first year.
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  But we were originally formed to do like underground music.
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  Rd. Burn has been very closely
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  aligned with those cult which Neurosis curated and played a
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  few times. So really this is one of our
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  like a house band, if you will, for us, like this is a band that
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  united the original founders of the Zine and the website now.
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  And so just welcome back and congratulations on this killer
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  new album. I know it.
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  There's a lot emotionally going on.
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  I read the band Camp missive that I thought was really
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  brilliantly put together and, you know, sort of encapsulated
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  everything. But it's got to be like a swirl
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  of emotions to even have the record out.
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  You worked on it for a while without anyone knowing.
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  There's very few surprises anymore in the music industry.
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  This was a pleasant surprise. Really wonderful.
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  Yeah, I mean, it feels really good to share it.
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  We we worked on it for many, many months in secret.
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  And, you know, there was a, there was a real excitement that
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  we had of, of course, to find a path back to making this record
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  and to welcome in Aaron Turner and to really get to know him.
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  And I guess the first thing I want people to know is that none
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  of this would have been possible if Aaron Turner wasn't a really
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  sweet, kind, special human being.
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  You know, that was that was hugely important.
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  And it felt really, really good right away.
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  I can't imagine we're huge fans of Aaron.
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  It would have been fun. My my No Ice shirt is out for
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  delivery. Would have been very weird for
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  me to show up wearing it today. But I can't wait to get this
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  thing. And yeah, it seemed like a mat,
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  like a perfect match. The minute even, like before I
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  heard a note, I was like, oh, of course, like what a perfect
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  person. But again, like, very hard
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  probably for you guys to even, you know, just kind of make that
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  first step and make music together.
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  Not you, but like with another person coming in to fill a, you
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  know, fill a role basically. And I mean, he's like, I could
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  not imagine a better or perfect collaborator for you both.
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  Yeah, it's funny because when I think back to when we were, we
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  never sat down with a big list of people and like, that just is
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  not our vibe. It had to be.
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  It had to be the the right person personality wise.
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  It had to be the right human being, you know, and our only he
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  was really like the kind of the the only name, the only even
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  idea that that stuck. But we are nursely like that's
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  too obvious. I can't you know, Aaron Turner's
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  too. Like that's like we'll never
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  hear the end of the Nereus jokes if if we bring in you know,
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  Aaron. But, but ultimately, you know,
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  when you look at I mean, and our history aside back, you know,
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  from him growing up and being a fan of Enemy of the Sun and it
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  being an inspiration on what he would do with ISIS, It's really
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  his stuff with Sumac, you know, we took Sumac out in one of
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  their early tours where he really came into his own as just
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  a real feral stage presence and really unique way of approaching
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  the guitar and and unhinged vocal.
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  It's a real intense energy that we felt would really be a great
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  match and complement to ours. And he also is just an
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  avant-garde artistic thinker. And he would bring new ideas
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  that we wouldn't think of, which will make us stronger.
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  And in in that kind of no man's land in purgatory, we found
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  ourselves for a while of not knowing how or if we should
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  invent our reinvent ourselves. He he was a much needed catalyst
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  with with that energy and it was turned out to just be the
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  perfect, the only move. Like playing 3D chess, the only
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  move. I love that so much.
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  And not to mention a brilliant artist and and layout expert.
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  And. And of course like he of course
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  has a deep love for the band that wouldn't be possible if he
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  didn't. But like even the artwork, the
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  layout, the logo, I'm so stoked to get this.
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  I pre-ordered the vinyl like so fast, almost hurt my hand.
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  The only two records I did that for this year that I really was
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  like the second I knew about it, COC and Neurosis, right?
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  For the vinyl because I had. I just have to have those.
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  But yeah, what a like every down to every detail, just musically,
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  you know, the flow of the album. I know sequencing is always a
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  thing because we're all people that love records, Steve.
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  And I've talked about this many times about how much we just
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  adore the era of records that, you know, music mattered.
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  And it was not just singles and radio, like the music for people
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  who love music, right? And putting a record out and
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  putting it together and organizing it.
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  And it seems like, yeah, like it seemed like fully collaborative
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  all the way through. And, you know, just what a what
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  a lucky strike for for the music fans.
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  Like, what a great thing to have just as a fan for the longest
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  time as a fan, I saw Neurosis open for Pantera in 9697, I'm
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  pretty sure. Early 97, late 96.
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  And just humongous, humongous stuff for me.
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  Did the reaction to to the news and the music surprise you in
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  any way? Was there anything that people
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  mentioned about it or fans feedback or anything that took
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  you by surprise? Obviously, you know, elation and
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  relief and and happiness, but other things.
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  You know, we, we were so focused on just finishing it and getting
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  to that point and setting it in the wild.
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  There's no way. I mean, of course, you know, we,
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  you, we, you try to not you expect nothing, give it all,
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  expect nothing. But we know how much baggage
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  more than anybody is attached to this situation.
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  And we wouldn't have dared to predict such an emotionally
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  positive reaction that took us totally by surprise and was,
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  it's still mind blowing. I mean, you know, the Internet's
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  a fucking cesspool. And the fact that people were
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  talking about things like joy and hope and connection with
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  regards to our music was still processing that.
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  Yeah, I guess that's an honest answer that I went in expecting
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  some people to just embrace it wholeheartedly and some people
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  to be a little on the fence about it.
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  And I guess I was surprised at how much the response has been
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  on the like, the like really joyous response to this record
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  and the amount of people sharing that joy.
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  And whenever somebody does sort of, you know, post something
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  that is a little, I don't know, just kind of questioning the the
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  move or the music, it's it's other people, other fans of the
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  band who kind of stand, stand up for us in a way.
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  And so that's kind of cool. Like, you know, there's people
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  feel a real connection. And, you know, I don't want to
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  say maybe ownership is the wrong word, but it I think you know
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  what I mean? Like people who get it really
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  protect it. And so that was that was a
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  surprise. Amazing.
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  I love that idea. I love.
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  Yeah. I'm the person that often says
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  like, bands don't owe people anything except themselves.
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  It's hard enough to do music, to make art, to be creative.
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  I'm not talking about the industry.
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  I'm just talking about like fans who feel like the band owes me
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  something. I'm always pushing back on that.
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  I played music for a long time also, and even more recently,
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  and I'm always pushing back on that notion.
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  I think like we're lucky to get art and music from anybody or
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  film if that's your thing, or put well written books.
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  And once that's in your hand, then you have it.
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  But it's they don't. The artist doesn't continue to
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  owe. You go out for a steak, you go
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  home, you don't or not owed another steak, you know, for for
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  a lack of a better analogy right this second.
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  So, you know, yeah, I. It is.
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  It is overwhelming for me to just see the reaction to
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  everybody. You know, we gave this record a
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  10. We don't give out a lot of 10s.
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  I feel like we're still one of the.
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  I don't even know if reviews matter anymore, but I feel like
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  we're still out there doing the same ethos we've always had,
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  which is to just have a very high minded, well trained staff.
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  Put the right album with the right person.
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  Shout out to Will Safer who did the review unprompted.
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  He's like, I listened to this all weekend and I wrote this in
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  a in a fever dream, just like the record.
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  And like, I was like, amazing. And then I did a little video
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  thing on it. I was like, yeah, this is the
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  only record I would a perfect score to.
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  If there's such a thing exists, can you grade art?
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  I don't know, but that's what critique is, right?
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  And I went to school for it. So I'm still kind of flying that
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  flag like an idiot in some ways. But yeah, we love the record.
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  It's I've listened to it so many times this week, this last
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  couple of weeks even, like it's so big.
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  And if it, you know, it's such a crazy time in the world and it's
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  just feels like the right music for right now.
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  If that makes sense to you guys. I don't know if you have any,
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  you know, obviously an undying love for the burning world kind
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  of speaks to me. I don't know if I hope it speaks
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  to everyone else the same way. Certainly, you guys.
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  You know, there's something again that it's not, it wasn't
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  an intent because we just don't, I don't think we look beyond the
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  art like, you know, making art, if it's authentic, I think a lot
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  of the times it's pretty self absorbed.
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  You know, you're pretty like it's us in this room making what
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  we want, what doesn't exist, that we want to hear, what we
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  want, what we need to express for our own reasons and for our
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  own purposes. And yeah, I think what we
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  experienced with just it was it was really kind of like a stars
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  aligning moment. It was the right the right
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  record, the right music, the right title, the right artwork,
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  the right day to release it, the right way to release it, not
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  none of which could have been predicted.
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  You know, it was just kind of like it all lined up to be what
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  became much bigger than us, more than we could even even realize
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  in the moment. And it's like a zeitgeist thing,
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  you know, it just, it just, it's the moment and it has to do with
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  everybody and how everybody feels.
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  And it just, you know, we just had the good fortune, I think,
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  to channel that energy that resonated, you know, because
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  we're all feeling, we're all feeling same way.
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  I don't know. What do you think?
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  What do you think, Noah? Yeah, that that's always what
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  we're doing. You know, we're always like just
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  opening ourselves up creatively and musically and spiritually.
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  And, you know, aside from Aaron, we've been doing this together
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  so long that we are just trying to be conduits of, of the
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  feeling, the spirit that we've grown and and sort of nurtured
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  over all of these decades, right?
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  And this one was, was not different except that except for
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  all the circumstances, you know, being gone so long and knowing
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  that, you know, because of those circumstances, I think it just
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  kind of made our, our like, our, our vision even more honed.
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  Like we actually like, we poured ourselves into this thing in a
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  way that was it was beautiful and exhausting.
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  You know, like every section of every song is, is has been like
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  a trial, you know, and it's always that way.
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  But I feel like we, we, I don't know, we're, we're an
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  interesting group to witness. You know, talking to Scott
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  Evans, he would come in and be like, I was talking to my wife
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  last night about how you guys record in the studio where every
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  idea that is floated is given time and consideration, you
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  know, like we're we're sort of one mind building this thing,
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  you know? Yeah, this one was, I don't
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  know, they all feel special, but this, this feels like a
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  different kind of special, maybe because it was like so
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  heartbreaking to not have it for those years, you know?
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  Right on. I love the man.
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  I love the shout out to Scott because what a inspired choice
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  and and obviously like a deal collaborator.
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  He's worked on so many awesome things, but I always feel like a
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  producer is much more than the some of their history or their
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  Discogs, right? Like it's like you pick somebody
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  for a purpose, right? So I wanted to know if he
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  brought him especially great to the table that, you know,
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  helped, you know, guide the process or did he let you just
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  kind of do your thing? We, I mean, we don't even use
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  that word. Producer.
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  He's an engineer, you know, and that's not just an Albini
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  hangover, you know, honor to our our fallen comrade.
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  But we record live as a band. You know, we set up all our
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  stuff and record. It's there's no, there's no
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  tricks, there's no gimmicks, there's no whatever.
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  I mean, we'll, we'll punch in and fix mistakes or, you know,
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  somebody felt like like the the band did great and somebody felt
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  like they could have done that second verse better.
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  They can go punch it. But we're not sitting in one at
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  a time at piercing this thing together.
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  So we like a traditional engineer that knows, knows his
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  stuff and knows what a good sounding room sounds like, how
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  to capture a good sounding room, which what, what's a good
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  microphone to put in front of these different types of guitar
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  amps? And, and he's the kind of guy
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  that does infinite shootouts on that kind of stuff, just on a
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  nerd level, you know, and those Kowloon Walled City records of
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  his own band sound fucking great, you know, and I think
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  he's cut from a lot of the same cloth as a guy like Steve
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  Albini, where they're just naturally trying to capture,
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  capture what's happening in a, in a really ear pleasing and
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  authentic way. And he did a fantastic job of
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  honoring our history of, of doing that and even who we did
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  it with and not wanting to, you know, screwed up and brought, I
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  think just brought the best that he had to offer to it.
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  And and also held our secret and held our which was a sacred
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  thing for people that in the know to hold, you know, and he
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  treated it with the utmost respect and, and gave it, gave
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  it all he had and brought all his expertise to the table.
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  And I, yeah, we we couldn't be happier with it.
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  Sounds, you know, it sounds like that sounds like us.
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  I love the way it sounds, man. I love the way the drums sound
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  like, yeah, and we had a microphone at the, you know, 2
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  microphones in the stairwell to the basement in different
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  places, you know, and it's like, how much are we going to use for
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  this song and that song? And of course, Jason has strong
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  opinions about what he wants his drums to sound like on not just
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  songs, but parts, because all of our songs are just, you know,
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  movements, you know, I, I love the whole time.
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  I was so happy with sort of the, the Sonic quality that he was
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  catching, you know, and I'm an engineer too.
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  So. Yeah.
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  But I, I did not try to guide him or, you know, what I usually
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  do for this or that. I just, you know, it was a, it
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  was a pleasure to just be the creator native person in the
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  room and not that technical person.
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  So that was, yeah. Right on you.
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  Jason's drums are enormous, like, you know, elephant feet
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  and incredible though. Just a couple of questions about
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  the music. Just so I can, you know, I would
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  like to clarify a few things or have you clarify a few things
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  for me, which is did you guys come in and write all of these
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  songs in the room together? Were there stuff you brought in
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  like maybe you might have in the past bring in a piece, but or
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  did you just get together, pick Aaron and then write from
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  scratch? Is that I'm curious about the
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  process. Yeah, we had a couple of ideas
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  before Aaron came in, but they weren't fully formed, just a
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  couple series of parts. You know, as soon as Aaron
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  joined, he instantly started adding and contributing to it.
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  And of course we, you know, being collaborative, everybody
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  brings in random stuff at different times.
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  You know, could be a couple of parts, could be one persons
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  part, but we never bring in complete pieces and teach
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  everybody the parts. And you do this and you do that.
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  It's the magic of us tearing it all down and building it back
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  up. And once we had Aaron's energy
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  and we started to learn each other's flow, we didn't hesitate
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  to just start rearranging at all.
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  But I'd say none of it took serious shape until he came to
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  the fold. And it wasn't.
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  But it wasn't until August, early September last year where
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  we sat in Aaron's yard, looked each other in the eye and and
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  said we see a record. And the added impetus was the
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  secret opportunity by my brothers and sisters in the
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  Firekeeper Alliance, you know who the nonprofit dedicated to
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  reducing suicide in Indian countries, specifically on the
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  Black Feet Nation, using heavy music as a protective factor and
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  validating what we've always believed that this crazy ass
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  music saves our ass all the time.
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  Having the kind of secret question of is there any chance
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  that you guys could be the ones to represent our mission next
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  year? And it was like we didn't want
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  to let anybody know that we were met.
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  You know, we don't like to say something until it's true, you
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  know, you don't want to. And so the combination of we
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  could visualize this record and we have this opportunity to do
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  this, but we're not going to announce playing anywhere until
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  we have a new record. So how long can they wait for us
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  to announce, you know, mid March, OK, like that's
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  absolutely it's mid March, OK, it's September.
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  If we can, if we can agree we're doing this, we're going to book
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  studio time tomorrow and two weeks from now we're going to
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  rehearse the first third, we're going to record it, you know,
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  and that's what we did. We did I think 2 rehearsals and
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  then a first recording session. Then two weeks later a rehearsal
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  2 weeks later, the second recording, 2 weeks later,
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  rehearsed the last third, one more recording session.
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  Two weeks after that mixed. It had the mastering engineer on
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  standby to take the files and immediate and you know, a month
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  before our, you know, almost a month before the secret release,
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  we were approving test pressings.
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  It was kind of crazy. It all happened once we got once
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  we kicked it into high gear, it was high intensity fine tuning
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  and really dialing in and laser focus on small pieces of the
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  record and getting them recorded.
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  It was, you know, because that's the kind of time we have too.
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  And just in our realities was weekends, right?
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  Working class. So, yeah, it I, I don't know.
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  No, I would look back on the calendar.
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  I was kind of shocked at how many times, how few times we
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  actually gathered before that, like 2 after like in 2/20/24, we
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  asked Aaron to join in the spring.
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  We only got together three times that year.
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  Yeah, You know, because we people were busy with other
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  stuff and other commitments and already in a long look and it's
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  just stuff going on in people's lives.
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  And we didn't get together a whole lot of times before we sat
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  down in his yard and said, OK, we can already see this.
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  Are we doing this or not? You know, are we going to do
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  this? Because this it just felt like
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  this is the time, this is the moment, and this is the way.
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  No pressure. Pressure, help, though, that
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  gave us late, that gave us a deadline, that gave us a
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  purpose, that gave us something bigger than our own egos, our
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  own wants and needs, something to focus on.
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  That was, I think, what we needed.
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  We needed something to reach toward that was more important.
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  Right on, I did want to ask a question, one more musical
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  question about the record because it's again, so, so many
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  layered to go through. I wanted to ask about the vocals
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  or the additional vocals beside Aaron.
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  I'm going to say on Seething and Scattered and Last Light,
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  especially like what's the, you know, did you guys just let's
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  put a little choir on here of us?
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  Like how did you guys, you know, did you try that out, test it
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  out or just go for it? Seething and Scattered was one
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  of the earlier songs that we were working on.
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  We had already, Noah, Dave and I were already doing a three-way
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  trade off, you know, kind of a call and response.
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  Building on that, which is something that we're, you know,
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  we're going to lean into the choir on Last Light is just to
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  totally demystify it. It's me harmonizing with myself
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  in falsetto. That whole section was
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  originally a part of my previous solo record, but I was literally
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  in the studio with Randall Dunn, who's a really a good friend of
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  mine. And we were literally in the
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  process of mixing it. And it was totally different
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  before and after that part. But I just had to say, stop,
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  this isn't this doesn't belong here.
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  It's not just not supposed to be on this record, but this is a
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  Neurosis song. And I don't, we weren't working
• 21:34
  on anything at that. Like we but you know, I didn't
• 21:37
  have a specific place for it. But this is Neurosis.
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  I must be missing it. And so I'm trying to stick it in
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  somewhere, you know, And so I I, I kept it out.
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  And while we were hacking around with all those other parts of
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  the song, Fig not finding a way to fit them together, that
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  turned out to be the piece that glued that that last third
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  together. So I had already recorded those
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  vocals and now in in my solo one left mounted vice.
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  I would have put those other voices way lower.
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  And these guys really liked how creepy it was.
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  And so we we turned him up. I had somebody earlier today
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  asked me or yesterday who was the woman that we had singing on
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  the on that part. Reddit is convinced it's a woman
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  or many women, and who they are is a wild speculative.
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  My inner My inner feminine. No, we all, well, you know, we
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  all have a little bit of the divine feminine, right?
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  And so we got to channel it out. Wonderful.
• 22:34
  Thanks for sharing. I appreciate you uncovering
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  that. Obviously we already talked
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  about Fire in the Mountains with a tremendous venue for the
• 22:40
  comeback live of this band. Obviously you can't talk about
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  anything, but I have to imagine once the announcement was made,
• 22:47
  once the, you know, the ears to the ground knew.
• 22:50
  I'm sure there are offers for festivals.
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  I'm sure there's people who want to have you tour.
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  Is that feasibly at all? Is it feasible?
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  Because I know that the rest of the band members have their own
• 23:00
  things going on also and and we know that touring and festivals
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  are scheduled multiple years out, if not at least one.
• 23:08
  So is that is that hopeful to look forward to?
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  Maybe you guys will tour with Aaron.
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  Is that a thing? Possibly.
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  Well, I mean, first of all, just because some people think like,
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  you know, when the things don't get back together, because
• 23:20
  people are involved in other musical projects, whenever
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  Neurosis is, you know, it's. We brought Aaron in knowing that
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  he had, you know, his own thing, but even he has joined us in
• 23:31
  saying like, basically, if we have the ability to do
• 23:33
  something, it's our it's our priority.
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  I would never prioritize solo stuff over in the roses or, and
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  you know, no other either or Dave either with their project.
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  Like once this is this is it. It's that takes priority and you
• 23:46
  make the other stuff fit around it right as you can, because we
• 23:50
  we had to have these needs to express ourselves.
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  But for right now, we're just really focused on July and get
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  us to Montana, get us on to the Red Eagle Campground on the
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  Black Feet Nation, get our sea legs under us and take it from
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  there. Of course we want to play and
• 24:07
  get out there and play, but we're just going to have to kind
• 24:10
  of take that as as it comes and do it in a way that feels right
• 24:14
  and feels good. But you know, for this first
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  catharsis, you know, we'll see you in Montana.
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  I. I dig that so much.
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  And we've had some people out there.
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  So like, yeah, we're big supporters.
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  I I think it looks like a wonderful, tremendous festival
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  with a lot of your friends and Pete peers also, not
• 24:32
  coincidentally. And yeah, just a tremendous,
• 24:34
  just a tremendous thing for music.
• 24:36
  Thank you both for, you know, really giving us this gift.
• 24:39
  I'm very grateful as a journalist, but also really as a
• 24:42
  fan. 1st and how much this means to me.
• 24:45
  And I can't put it all into words right now, but I'll find
• 24:48
  the way. And yeah, just really thank you
• 24:51
  so much for this. You know, an undying Love for a
• 24:55
  Burning World is out now on New Rot Recordings.
• 24:57
  Great to say that. Also love the whole, like all
• 25:00
  the vinyl variants and all and the cassette and the shirts and
• 25:03
  the merch and the merch store has got all your classic designs
• 25:06
  and everything else. You know, I've been, I've been
• 25:08
  spending some time on those web pages myself.
• 25:10
  So guys, thank you very much for this is a tremendous pleasure
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  and honor to chat with you both on this occasion.
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  And I don't take it lightly. Thank you so much.
• 25:18
  Thank you, man. Yeah.
• 25:20
  Thank you. Appreciate your time.