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6-30: Mariners win, Seahawks sale and Jim Bowden · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 7: are out. Paraguay beat him on penalty kicks. Paraguay's president
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  Speaker 7: the mighty Germans knocking them out of the tournament. Last night,
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  Speaker 7: Morocco advances to play Cannon on July fourth, the first
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  Speaker 7: overwhelming favorite to win the tournament against Sweden in the
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  Speaker 7: round of thirty two, and then tonight Mexico's tough Texanan
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  Speaker 7: Ecuador in Mexico City. You heard yesterday Nico Moreno talking
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  Speaker 7: about how the Mexicans are in for a big challenge
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  Speaker 7: to night from Ecuador. Of course, tomorrow right here in Seattle,
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  Speaker 7: Belgium and Senegal at Lumenfields at one o'clock start. I'll
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  Speaker 7: with all the soccer color and pregame of that. And
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  Speaker 7: then five o'clock tomorrow right here on ninety three point
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  Speaker 7: three KJRFM US and Bosnia Herzgi in Santa.
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  Speaker 4: Clara in the round of thirty two.
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  Speaker 7: The winner of that match, the winner the Seattle match
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  Speaker 7: play in Seattle in the round of sixteen on Monday
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  Speaker 7: the player.
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  Speaker 4: Lebron James wan to play for someone else.
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  Speaker 7: the Golden State Warriors are the most likely landing spot,
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  Speaker 7: it appears, and the Warriors are trying to also get
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  Speaker 7: Anthony Davis from the Lakers. According to reports, Memphis traded
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  Speaker 7: He's got one million dollars bond on felony charges of
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  Speaker 7: arm robbery and kidnapping.
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  Speaker 4: He could be facing life in prison. Now on for
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  Speaker 4: the Tuesday show.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, and it's a Tuesday, which means it's one
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  Speaker 7: day before the World Cup comes back to Seattle and
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  Speaker 7: it's going to be another crazy edning the knockout stages.
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  Speaker 4: I've been fabulous. I don't I know. Just when you're
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  Speaker 4: not a huge soccer.
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  Speaker 12: Fan, Oh but I'm a World Cup fan. Yes, it
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  Speaker 12: always draws me in I just get so into it.
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  Speaker 12: I always end up picking a random team to follow.
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  Speaker 12: Ghana was my one back in the day because I
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  Speaker 12: wanted the Cinderella. So I always go for the cinderellas
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  Speaker 12: I see USA. I was really into Ecuador. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 12: so I don't know. I let the game choose me.
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  Speaker 12: I let the team choose me when it's not something
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  Speaker 12: that I have a team that I specific I mean
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  Speaker 12: obviously have Team USA in this, but I always have
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  Speaker 12: an outlier.
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  Speaker 7: Was an outlier from yesterday obviously Paraguay. Yeah, beating the
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  Speaker 7: mighty Germans in a penalty kick shootout. Love that controversy
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  Speaker 7: with a var review waving off a German goal late
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  Speaker 7: that could have won it before it even got the
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  Speaker 7: extra time in penalty kicks.
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  Speaker 4: I thought the keeper just took a dive and drew
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  Speaker 4: the call.
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  Speaker 7: He seemed to go down pretty easily, but yeah, the
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  Speaker 7: German attacker did impede him. And if you go anywhere
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  Speaker 7: and breathing on a keeper in international soccer, you're going
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  Speaker 7: to get the foul call.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 7: On the show today, we'll talk about the World Cup.
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  Speaker 7: The United States, of course, playing tomorrow to try to
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  Speaker 7: get to the round of sixteen, which they've only advanced
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  Speaker 7: from one time. That round of sixteen match again would
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  Speaker 7: be in Seattle. It will be in Seattle anyway. On Monday,
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  Speaker 7: it'll be the United States. If the US can win
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  Speaker 7: tomorrow against a big Bosnia team that they're still favorite
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  Speaker 7: to beat in Santa Clara, we'll talk about George Kirby
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  Speaker 7: and what he did last night. He just took those Mariners'
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  Speaker 7: rules for how they use bullpens and just took it
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  Speaker 7: into his own hands.
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  Speaker 4: Fixed those for one night.
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  Speaker 7: Anyway, Dan Wilson, maybe his bosses had a new batting
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  Speaker 7: order last night. They moved Cal Rawley way down in
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  Speaker 7: the order. We'll talk about that. The general manager of
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  Speaker 7: the Mariners yesterday says there's quote a lunatic fringe among
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  Speaker 7: Mariners fans. I'm not sure the wisdom of a Major
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  Speaker 7: League baseball general manager talking about some of his fan
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  Speaker 7: base being a lunatic fringe. You'll hear from Justin Older
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  Speaker 7: saying that we'll talk at eleven o'clock speaking of that
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  Speaker 7: to Jim Bowden, the former general manager in Major League
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  Speaker 7: Baseball who's now an analyst for SIRI XMCBS Sports and
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  Speaker 7: a columns for the Athletic. I'm gonna ask him what
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  Speaker 7: do you think about a baseball general manager reading off
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  Speaker 7: Twitter and exit calling of fans lunatic fringe. But the
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  Speaker 7: reason Jessma went and I wanted him on, Jessman got
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  Speaker 7: him to talk about the dynamics of a general manager,
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  Speaker 7: A veteran general manager he was with a first time manager.
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  Speaker 4: This is two managers in a row.
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  Speaker 7: The Mariners have had managers with no previous dugout experience
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  Speaker 7: leading a club. Scott's service the course first, and then
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  Speaker 7: Jerry Depoto does the same thing and brings Dan Wilson in.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to ask Jim Boden about that, in the
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  Speaker 7: dynamics of it, about analytics and baseball today and how
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  Speaker 7: it's sometimes in the Mariner's case, all the time handcuffs
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  Speaker 7: the manager in the dugout. We're gonna talk to Jim
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  Speaker 7: Boden about that at eleven o'clock eleven thirty is we
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  Speaker 7: do it every day. We'll lead back to your text
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  Speaker 7: on the Komodadge text nine four nine four five one.
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  Speaker 7: We can start off the show by asking you what
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  Speaker 7: would you ask Jim Boden A veteran general manager, and
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  Speaker 7: about the game today, about analytics, about first time manager,
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  Speaker 7: about anything.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe will you one of.
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  Speaker 7: Your questions on the when we asked when talked to
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  Speaker 7: Jim Bowden at eleven o'clock, George Kirby last night, he
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  Speaker 7: was angry.
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  Speaker 4: George, let him explain that I put you on.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I was just trying to get real pissed off
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  Speaker 13: at the end there, just kind of give it all, give.
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  Speaker 4: It all I had.
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  Speaker 13: And yeah, I mean I was just yeah to be
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  Speaker 13: able to get the strike out there with a couple
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  Speaker 13: of guys on base and.
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  Speaker 14: He had just kind of shut it down.
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  Speaker 7: It fell awesome.
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  Speaker 13: And then and yeah, then getting you know, the high
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  Speaker 13: five from the teammates, all that good stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 13: I'm just happy we wanted Cole and those guys came
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  Speaker 13: came out today and swung it.
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  Speaker 10: So it was pretty sweet.
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  Speaker 7: George Kirby must have all kinds of cachet in that clubhouse,
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  Speaker 7: in that organization to get the one hundred pitches.
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  Speaker 4: Jessman, Holy cow.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I mean it's pretty telling too, just that that
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  Speaker 12: is some trust. And I think he discussed that as well.
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  Speaker 12: If we want to hear him what he actually got
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  Speaker 12: called out for the eighth.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, they made a tunnel for me to go under,
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  Speaker 13: so I ended that.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, it was cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm just happy, you know, I was. I was
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  Speaker 13: able to finish the job tonight. So I just went
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  Speaker 13: in the tunnel and did my thing, and they just
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  Speaker 13: went out for the eighth. So I'm glad, glad he
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  Speaker 13: trusted me in that situation.
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  Speaker 7: We mentioned it, and we brought it up somewhat jokingly
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  Speaker 7: because of course, the day before in Cleveland, Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 7: ninety eight pitches, old, no, no, no, don't throw a
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  Speaker 7: ninety ninth through armor.
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  Speaker 15: That was immediately what I thought of.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that was if they kept Hancock into
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  Speaker 7: one hundred or hundred and two pitches, he gets out
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  Speaker 7: of the six with a four to one lead, then
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  Speaker 7: you don't use Bizarto for one out because he can
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  Speaker 7: then start the next inning. You have him for the
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  Speaker 7: entire seventh, you inspire for the entire eighth, you have
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  Speaker 7: Munas for the ninth, and the marriage would be in
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  Speaker 7: first place today because they would have one more win
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  Speaker 7: and one funeral holding under that lead in Cleveland Sunday,
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  Speaker 7: so they can keep Kirby in for the magic one
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  Speaker 7: hundred pitches.
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  Speaker 4: That's my joking is that he must have some kind
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  Speaker 4: of pool inside.
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  Speaker 7: The organization to get to go past ninety eight that
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  Speaker 7: Everson Hancock was not allowed to cross.
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  Speaker 15: That's also Kirby.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, and you know there there was We have Dan
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  Speaker 12: Wilson also talking about that decision, because it might not
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  Speaker 12: just Ben Kirby, but Dan Wilson actually saw something in him.
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  Speaker 14: We were kind of on the fence on what to
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  Speaker 14: do there bullpen wise, but you know, I think he
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  Speaker 14: got the second out at like ninety eight miles an
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  Speaker 14: hour and still had a lot in the tank there,
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  Speaker 14: and you know, I thought he was making pitches still
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  Speaker 14: and and you know, getting pitches to the bottom of
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  Speaker 14: the zone, getting the good you know, breaking balls down
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  Speaker 14: below the zone where you want them, And you know,
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  Speaker 14: I thought there was a a you know, it looked
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  Speaker 14: like a determination in that that he wanted to finish
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  Speaker 14: that inning and really did a nice job to shut
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  Speaker 14: down that, you know what could have been a little
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  Speaker 14: bit of a rally for them. But he was right
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  Speaker 14: there to to you know, to put it out like
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  Speaker 14: he'd done all night long, and he was, you know,
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  Speaker 14: close to one hundred pitches, but he found something.
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  Speaker 7: Extra Holy cow, do you mean Dan Wilson actually used
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  Speaker 7: his eyes and what his heart and gut told him.
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  Speaker 12: With George Kirby's listening to both of them, it sounds
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  Speaker 12: like it was Dan Wilson's decision. Though, like you know,
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  Speaker 12: we were talking about whose decision is it? In those situations,
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  Speaker 12: that sounded like it was Dan's.
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  Speaker 7: Well, but why then and not Emerson Hancock the day
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  Speaker 7: before or everybody else for the entire season? When they
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  Speaker 7: get to one hundred, it's like shut down city no
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  Speaker 7: matter what they're doing. Or the stupid piggyback when they
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  Speaker 7: go four innings and they take Pryce Miller out of
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  Speaker 7: shutout at four innings, that that's frustrating. If you're selling
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  Speaker 7: their staff, I would think, wait a minute, there's some inconsistency.
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  Speaker 15: Said, yes, maybe it's the veteran status. You know Kirby's
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  Speaker 15: been in all that time.
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  Speaker 7: You should manage a team, and that's exactly what you
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  Speaker 7: should go. Okay, he's throwing hard, he's getting outs. Who
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  Speaker 7: cares if he's at ninety eight or ninety seven pitches,
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  Speaker 7: Let him finish, let him do the eight. And you
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  Speaker 7: heard Wilson say again, they were on the withought they
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  Speaker 7: were going to do in the bullpen they had used
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  Speaker 7: for they used for air in the ninth inning last night,
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  Speaker 7: he had nineteen pitches. Of course he didn't pitch Sunday
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  Speaker 7: because they have the rule that you can't pitch three
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  Speaker 7: days in a row, even though it used to be
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  Speaker 7: a closer for Washington Nationals last year. But that's concerning
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  Speaker 7: that they were on the fence again. What if Kirby
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  Speaker 7: gets hit around in the seventh inning and he doesn't
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  Speaker 7: go eight, then you might have pote pirie again in
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  Speaker 7: the bullpen. And my point is that's how you should
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  Speaker 7: manage right started dealing shoving at ninety eight in the
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  Speaker 7: eight day.
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  Speaker 4: Let's keep him out there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no reason to arbitrarily take him out because
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  Speaker 7: of some artificial pitch count number that you instilled on him.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I know that he did say that they were
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  Speaker 12: on the fence, but he also said he kind of
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  Speaker 12: doubled down on what he saw in Kirby.
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  Speaker 4: It shows you how much he cares and how much
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  Speaker 4: he wants it.
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  Speaker 14: And tonight was you know, I thought a great, a
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  Speaker 14: great job on his part, you know, gave up a
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  Speaker 14: couple early, but really settled in after that and kept
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  Speaker 14: rolling and kept going, and you know, kept getting more
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  Speaker 14: and more comfortable out there, and I was standing out.
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  Speaker 7: In form I was last night Dan Wilson managing the
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  Speaker 7: game and letting George Kirby pitch eight innings.
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  Speaker 4: That solved their bullpen problem a one inning, four run lead.
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  Speaker 7: That you don't have too many problems in your bullpen
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  Speaker 7: when you only need to cover one inning with a
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  Speaker 7: four run lead. And that's what the Mariners did last
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  Speaker 7: night to beat. Now, the Angels are a joke. There
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  Speaker 7: are fourteen games under five hundred in a division that
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  Speaker 7: is just awful.
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  Speaker 12: But they still had a close game early on. You know,
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  Speaker 12: in the fourth it was only three to two, that's.
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: Right, and then a two run single bag cal Raley,
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: who we'll talk about in the next segment, is no
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: longer the number two hitter.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Let's see how long that stays.
• 15:36
  Speaker 12: All.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: Let's talk about the general manager calling a fraction of
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: this fan base a lunatic fringe. This was justin Hollander
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: before the game yesterday.
• 15:44
  Speaker 16: I think it's fair for people to be frustrated by that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 16: I don't really think it's fair to take a training staff.
• 15:50
  Speaker 17: And there's them up the loss or.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Things that are out of their control. Here, I don't
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: think it a year whf we don't have.
• 15:58
  Speaker 16: Any starting pitching injuries because as having invented some nether
• 16:01
  Speaker 16: way to keep starting pictures healthy and when we have
• 16:04
  Speaker 16: hands strings and throwings and sport attorneys and I get
• 16:07
  Speaker 16: probably my mistake leaning on the winner take friends on
• 16:12
  Speaker 16: Twitter or X, but I hate to see those people
• 16:15
  Speaker 16: who I think do a great job and care more
• 16:18
  Speaker 16: about these players than anyone I've everturned around as a staff.
• 16:20
  Speaker 16: When I think if you ask are players present, reformer,
• 16:24
  Speaker 16: and how they feel about this training staff, they will
• 16:27
  Speaker 16: tell you they're as good and as empathetic and caring
• 16:31
  Speaker 16: and skilled as any training staff.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: In the League's Justin Alder even acknowledges that it's probably
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: my mistake talking about Twitter and X opinions, and yes.
• 16:43
  Speaker 12: Well it sounds like he believes that it's just, you know,
• 16:47
  Speaker 12: an outlying group of fans that feel this way and
• 16:50
  Speaker 12: what he was referring to as the training staff and
• 16:52
  Speaker 12: the criticism they're getting because of the cavalcade of injuries
• 16:55
  Speaker 12: we've seen great.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Word just when cavalcade it's exactly what it is. That's
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: a great word. That's a scrabble word right there.
• 17:03
  Speaker 12: I play a lot of it with my mom's nice
• 17:07
  Speaker 12: Oh you're right.
• 17:07
  Speaker 15: Wait, that is what he's referring to.
• 17:09
  Speaker 12: If people don't understand, and when you see a lot
• 17:11
  Speaker 12: of injuries, I could see that being the target for
• 17:15
  Speaker 12: but you would think it was more fans. And I
• 17:17
  Speaker 12: think that's why he's referring to the fans, because they
• 17:20
  Speaker 12: only have voices on social media for the most part
• 17:23
  Speaker 12: that a team would actually see or hear. And he
• 17:27
  Speaker 12: blamed himself or even looking at it. You know, no,
• 17:30
  Speaker 12: don't look at that, and.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Then commenting on it publicly. Yeah, he also said sports
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: talk radio, he did say it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that that wasn't us.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: He did say that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: And I don't know who on the station does talk
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: about the training staff of the Mariners or pointing fingers
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: at them.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 17:46
  Speaker 12: I don't Well, there's more than one sports talk radio
• 17:48
  Speaker 12: in this town. I'll just say that, even though we
• 17:50
  Speaker 12: don't like to acknowledge that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I understand for the marriage.
• 17:55
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I haven't heard it on our station, and I
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: can't listen to all thirteen hours a day, but I
• 18:01
  Speaker 12: haven't heard that be a big topic of conversation because
• 18:05
  Speaker 12: I think we talk more about the management style and
• 18:08
  Speaker 12: pitching changes.
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: So anyway, that in itself is peculiar. First of all,
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: he's eight years younger than I am. Probably shouldn't be
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: quoting Twitter and publicly commenting about what people say.
• 18:20
  Speaker 12: Can I give just the other side of the coin
• 18:23
  Speaker 12: is I think he wanted to defend of course he did, right,
• 18:26
  Speaker 12: So I mean maybe he shouldn't have said X or
• 18:29
  Speaker 12: you know, fringe. Now, yeah, that's going down to wording choice.
• 18:34
  Speaker 12: But I think he had every right to come out
• 18:36
  Speaker 12: and defend his staff, of course, right exactly. I do
• 18:41
  Speaker 12: understand the word choice, though could have been a little different.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's put it in context here.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: The Mariners, of all the teams in professional sports, to
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: call their fans a lunatic fringe for a franchise that
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: has never made a championship series of their league.
• 18:56
  Speaker 18: Ever, I'm not exaggerating. They've been around fifty years. You
• 19:02
  Speaker 18: know this, Jessamin, They've never made the World Series. Yet
• 19:05
  Speaker 18: that people are spending big bucks. They spend money the season.
• 19:08
  Speaker 18: Ticketholders spend thousands of dollars.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: People spend eighty dollars on parking and sixty dollars on
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: beers and forty dollars on not talking. I don't know
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: that Mariner finds even if they're outspoken in their criticism
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: of the training staff for this instance, which I didn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: think is a big deal in this town, but the
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: general manager made it one. I'm not sure you call
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: a fan base of a team that's never been to
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: the finals of anything and fifty years of their existence
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: of lunatic fringe. They probably have a right to be
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: lunatics after this point.
• 19:39
  Speaker 12: I would also add to that that, and I say
• 19:41
  Speaker 12: this to Ian all the time that hate isn't the
• 19:44
  Speaker 12: ab opposite of love. Apathy is So if they're so
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: passionate about this team enough to be angry, that's actually
• 19:50
  Speaker 12: more of a positive than them not saying anything.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Yes, anyway, it was peculiar, to say the least, which
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: why I wanted to play it that baseball general manager
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: or a professional swittch manage of any league would call
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: some of his fan based a lunatic fringe. I get
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: his frustration of being and being defensive about his training
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: staff and the sporting them. And yes, and Justin and
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: You're exactly right. He's the boss of them, and he's
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: picking up for them publicly. Just not sure it was
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: that big of a point, I guess.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: He just I haven't really.
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: Seen a huge I haven't seen any newspaper articles criticized.
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: There's nothing in the mainstream media that I've seen. So
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: and he again, he did say maybe I shouldn't pay
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: attention to it, and I would say, yes, you are correct,
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: justin because if I paid attention to every comment I
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: got on Twitter, I'd be laying in a box somewhere exactly,
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: curled up in the fetal position, exactly.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: I've been in Seattle since nineteen ninety three, ninety four
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: I got here and as an officer at Fort Lewis,
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: I was there for ninety five and Edgar's double at
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: the top of the stadium.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I was inside the Kingdom with my wife.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: I've been here that long and know that Mariner fans
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: and following the Mariners is a very frustrating and fruitless endeavor.
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: My point is, just don't call it franchises fan base
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: that has never ever tasted the world series of Lumatic fringe.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: It just they can be whatever they want to be.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: They had never they paid all this money and never
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: gotten a World Series, they probably have a right to
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: be along.
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: Well, you can just taste the frustration for him, because
• 21:17
  Speaker 12: Justin is pretty good at, you know, publicly speaking. You
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: could just taste the frustration that he must have and
• 21:24
  Speaker 12: that was you know, probably him holding back for.
• 21:27
  Speaker 15: What he really wanted to say.
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: So that would just speak to how he feels about
• 21:31
  Speaker 12: the criticism the training staff it's getting.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: In my opinion, Luke Rayley is now injured by the
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: way dom Gonzone is playing through injury, which is why
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: he's dhing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Randy A.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Rose Arena is walking to fly balls and balls a
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: hit on the field line because he's still not fully
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: back from hamstring issues. Dan Wilson intimated last week during
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: the series of Road Trip, So they still have plenty
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: of injury issue. Brendan Donovan, we don't know when he's
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: coming back. It looks like maybe August. Justin Hollander had
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: said before the last Hampton that Brenda Donovan could come back.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: Maybe they still have Matt Brash on injured list. Carlos
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: Vargas has not pitched at all this year. Those two
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: men may come back at the end of August. Justin
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Hollander has said they might be like trade deadline acquisition
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: type of rivals, which would mean into August. So yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: that's the injury context that Justin Holland was speaking about.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Last night, Dan Wilson mixed up his batting order. He
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: finally moved cal Rawley down. The one sixty seven hitter.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: The soul and heartbeat of the team is no longer
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: the number two hitter. We'll tell you who is. I'll
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: tell you who should be, and we'll tell you where
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: Kyle Rawley is. And we'll have Dan Wilson explain why,
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: some of why he did it and what Cayl Rawley
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: did for the team last night.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: That's coming up next eleven o'clock.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: Jim Bowden, the general manager, a former general manager, Major
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: League Baseball general manager and now sirius XMM CBS sports analysts,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: to talk about this GM manager dynamic that's going on
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: with the Mariners. He'll also talk about the trade deadline
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: that the Mariners are all going to be active in
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: and probably will again July and August.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: That's all coming up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: In ninety three point three KJRFM, Welcome back, Greg Belt,
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Jasmin McIntyre with you on ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: talk about the Mariners George Kirby solving their bullpen decision
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: problems by just going eight innings and shoven last night
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: against the Angels. We'll see what the batting order does,
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: because it changed last night, and we'll see if it's
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: the same tonight. Kyl Rawley has been number two in
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: the batting order almost all season, including when he came
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: back off the injury list. He was on for thirty
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: three days with the oblique. Yet he's still just hitting
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: one sixty seven as of this morning. One for four
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: last night, two strikeouts in the two runs single while
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: batting sixth for the first.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Time this year.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: So manager Dan Wilson had seen enough and he's gonna
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: move his slugger, the guy who had sixty plus home runs,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: the guy who carried them into the American League Championship
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: Series down to last year, down to sixth. Who moved
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: up and who moved down? Well beside Raleigh, they put
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: the same top of the order with JP Crawford leading off.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: Rodriguez was batting second. Dom can Zone was a designated
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: hitter last night. He's playing through injury. He's not fully healthy,
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: so they're putting him at DH. Luke Rayley still bothered
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: by I think it's the wrist or the elbow injury
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: that he's had. I think the risk now that I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: thinking about it, he's been playing through injury, but now
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: he's not playing un least the last couple of days.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: Roblaze played in right field last night and bat at eight.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: A Rose Arena was batting behind can zone at four,
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: and then Naylor then Raleigh. Dan Wilson talking about what Cole,
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: what Kyl Rawley did last night, which is reminiscent of
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: what he had said the day before, they needed to
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: do more about playing the all fields and not trying
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: to do everything in run scoring situations.
• 25:12
  Speaker 14: I think he hit the nail on the head yesterday
• 25:14
  Speaker 14: saying you didn't want to try to do too much
• 25:16
  Speaker 14: and and you know kind of pitch he could handle
• 25:18
  Speaker 14: and and uh, you know, got got got on him
• 25:21
  Speaker 14: a little bit, but able to hit it to the
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: left field and you know, get that ball in and
• 25:25
  Speaker 14: and pick up those two runs. I think, you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 14: that's the approach, is not getting too big to where
• 25:31
  Speaker 14: you're swing and miss on that pitch or you you
• 25:33
  Speaker 14: know you take a swing where you're out in front,
• 25:36
  Speaker 14: but instead he stayed on it, stayed through it, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 14: able to get it into the left field and you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 14: give us the lead, which I think was, you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 14: obviously the big turning point.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: In the ball game.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: So based on the results and based on what you
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: just heard there from the manager Dan Wilson, it would
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: sound like Kyl Rowley's going to be batting sixth again tonight.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: When you say, Jessman, I.
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: Mean all indications would point to yes, if it worked well,
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: six runs for this time exactly. That's the most they've
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: had in fourteen games. So yeah, you know who.
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: I'd put a number two, Cole Young. He's the most
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: valuable player of this team. I said that a week ago.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: Some people in the text line disagreed with me. He
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: had two home runs last night. One of them was
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: off a left handed pitcher. Matter of fact, they had
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: two home runs off left handed pitchers last night. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: mean the iPads must have blown up. They probably exploded. Yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: left hander's bumpus was the hit left hands? Why Rob
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Repschneider's on the roster. Reschneider, by the way, is injured
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: as well. May have to go in the injured list.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Justin Hollanders said there day by day trying to figure
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: him out too. It's a forum and an elbow for
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: Rayley resh Nighters also injured, although you wouldn't know it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's one thirty five and it's been there
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: all season. But now Raley, I won sixty seven, is
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: down the sixth. I'd put Cole Young, who batted seventh
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: again last night, up to two. Reward him for what
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: he is professional.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Bat at bets. We talked about this.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: Pitch away runner at second out two strikes. Don't try
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: to pull that pitch. You're either gonna ground it and
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: roll it over to second base as a left handed batter,
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: or you're gonna strike out. He slaps it into left field.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: He does that all the time, bunting. He actually bunts.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: I'm still impressed by I keep thinking about that double
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: play he made a couple of weeks ago where he
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: simultaneously caught a chopper to second base and tagged the
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: runner out between first and second at the same time,
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: and then threw to first for the double play that
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: got him out of an inning. Cole Young is a ballplayer.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: He's just professional and everything he does. He is two
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: years old.
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: Yes, I've spent a lot of time in that Mariners clubhouse,
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: you know, just talking to guys, getting him on the air,
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: doing interviews with them and everything. He is a pro
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: at such a young age. It is unbelievably impressive.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: Twenty two years old. I'm jaanees o Ohio. Grew up
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: about an hour west of where I grew up with
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: some good stock. John Glenn High School in New Concord, Yes,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: named after the astronaut a muskie played against them in
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: high school, Cole Young.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Last night, after the two home run game for the Mariners.
• 27:59
  Speaker 15: Well this is Dan Willis and discussing.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Discussing it. Thank you, jes.
• 28:02
  Speaker 14: We saw that power last year, you know at times
• 28:05
  Speaker 14: and and drove you know, the ball way out of
• 28:07
  Speaker 14: the ballpark. And tonight, you know, his second home run
• 28:10
  Speaker 14: this way out of the ballpark. And uh but again,
• 28:14
  Speaker 14: you know, I think talk about the home runs all
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: you want. I think that a very impressive ad bad
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: of his was getting that base at the left field
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: and staying inside the ball and just you know, getting
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: his hit the left field. I thought that was a
• 28:25
  Speaker 14: good swing too. And when you're able to do both
• 28:28
  Speaker 14: of those things. I think you're in a really good spot.
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: That's what he was able to do tonight. He's in
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: a good spot.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Up the middle opposite.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Used to tell my guys all the time coaching high
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: school baseball. Up the middle, opposite, don't try to pull
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: the ball up the middle up man. He did it
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: again last night. He's done it all season. Pitch away
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: up the middle, opposite, try to hit the whole fit.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: It's just what Rowley talked about, Kyle Rowley talked about
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: in Cleveland, used the whole field, not try to do
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: too much, not try to hit home runs. They did
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: hit home runs last night, three of them, but they
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: also scored three runs without a home run, and that
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: would have won the game anyway. Three two because Angels
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: only had two runs because of George Kirby, who, by the.
• 29:05
  Speaker 12: Way, respect for Kirby man, Yeah, I heard him say,
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: by the way, just because George Kirby is coming, you know.
• 29:11
  Speaker 12: He said he was trying to get pissed off. That's
• 29:13
  Speaker 12: kind of the demeanor that he has. He said the
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: words I'm happy in that cut that we played from him.
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: I haven't heard him say that, and it made me
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: really happy for him that he took some joy in
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: the game.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: That's good. We need a few more of those.
• 29:29
  Speaker 15: He's very stonefaced.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: We need a few more those. Mariners are just back
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: to five hundred. Of course, Kirby made the All Star
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: Game two years ago when he was here in Seattle. Yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: and then a little bit of an off season and
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: many respects, including healthwise last year, and now he seems
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: to be getting back on track. Anyway, we'll say the
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: night Marina's second game of the series against the angel
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: Remember the series with the Angels. The home series is Monday, Tuesday,
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Thursday because they're taking Wednesday off for the World Cup.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: That's at one o'clock tomorrow Belgium and Senegal across the
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: street at loom And Field. By the way, remember yesterday
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: we talked about Buddy Kennedy, who was one hundred and
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: eighty nine plate appearances in his major league career and
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: he's a one to seventy one career average.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you're joking that he'll fit.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Right in justin Holland or the GM yesterday said before
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: the game the reason they traded for Kennedy from the Giants. Well,
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: first of all, when you trade for cash considerations in baseball.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: That means they were Giants were about to cut him.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: He was probably going to go on waivers, and then
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: you would be as Mariners would be subject to getting
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: in waiverclaim order, and they'd be further down as well.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: They wouldn't be that far down as a five hundred
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: division leader, second place team, but they wouldn't be first.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: So to get to the front of the line, you
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: tell the Giants, Hey, if you're going to cut this
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: guy anyway, let's slide you twenty thousand, fifty hundred thought.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Whatever it is to get in the front of line,
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: we'll just trade and give you some cash and you
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: give him us. And that's how that works. So this
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: is what Justin Hollander said yesterday about why they targeted
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Buddy Kennedy. Quote, Buddy can move around the field, really
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: hits left handed, pitching, makes great swing decisions, is really
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: really crush left He's a triple A Sacramento that is,
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: it's a nice fit if Ref has to go on
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: the il. Of course, they said that about Ref Schneider
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: when they signed him in the offseason for six point
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: two five million guaranteed. That contract is why he's still
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: on the team. I believe, how else would you be
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: carrying somebody who's about in one thirty seven the most
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: at bats in baseball and with the lowest average one
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: hundred plus at bats and hitting one thirty seven. But
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: now Res Schneider's hurt too, So Buddy Kennedy, who looked
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: like perhaps a minor league triple a fill in or
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: death piece, maybe staying up here a while. We'll see
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: what they do with Ref Schneider, if there's any roughter
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: move coming before they're aiming tonight. I don't know, Hey,
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: the left of handedness thing. The only user we're even
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: talking about Ref Schneider or Buddy Kennedy or anything is
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: because they're trying to find right handed batters to face
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: left handed pitching. Just trot your best dudes out there
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: and see what happens. Let's see what Let's drop the
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: handedness for a minute and let's just see what happens
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: with your best guy.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: I know Rayley's banged up.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: Now, who would be the guy that probably deserves at
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: least a left handed pitching, But now he's her too.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's Rod Blaze or I don't know.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: You Jessman.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: I'd rather see Roe Blaze and right field and the
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: chances against left handed pitching than Rof Schneider or Buddy
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: Kennedy right now.
• 32:12
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, give Buddy Kennedy, he's.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: A third baseman, second baseman, first baseman, but.
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: Give him a shot. Give Buddy a shot for sure.
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: But I agree with you that. I mean, you can't
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: just play the contract or play the left left. You
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: know that whole situation every single time I get this strategy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: You're right, it's just.
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: You don't have to keep rolling that out every single time.
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: And you know they gave Rouf Schneider. I would like
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: they gave him a shot. Give Buddy a shot. But yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: I'm with you on road Blace.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: If roe Blaze is in the line up again betting
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: eight as he was last night, I'd say Cole Young
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: needs to be up at second and slide Rodriguez down,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Slide Ken Zone down, slider Rose Arena down. But the
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: guy who's your best, most professional hitter with more at
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: bats up at number two, That's what I would do.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: Four nine, four to five one. What would you do
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: with the maner's batting order? Do you like cow probably
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: down at six. I know a lot of you didn't
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: like cow roly at second and now he's down at six.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: What do you think a Cole Young is the number
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: two hitter for this team? I like it right? It
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: was hot? Right.
• 33:09
  Speaker 15: Also, give us some talkbacks. I'm a talkback fiend.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about what the talk about? Is the red
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: audio button on the iHeartRadio app.
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly thirty seconds or less, and you just talk
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: into the microphone. It even gives you a cute little
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: countdown three to one so you can prepare yourself. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: I love listening to voices on this air as well,
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: so we'll read your text.
• 33:29
  Speaker 15: But don't you want to hear your voice on the
• 33:30
  Speaker 15: radio tube.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: And we'll open up the phone line sometime. That's scary.
• 33:34
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that's why I like talkback.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I knew you were going to say that. I knew
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: you were going to say.
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: That because I get to listen to them before I
• 33:39
  Speaker 12: put them on the air.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: But yes, you go the iHeart Radio app.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: Go to a little red microphone button at the bottom,
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: leave a max thirty second voice. Man, we'll play that
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: back too at eleven thirty if you want to do that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: Up next the Seahawks sale, what the next incremental step
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: is happened yesterday, We'll talk about the latest on the.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Sale of the Seahawks from the Paul g.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: Allen Trust and where stands on ninety three point three
• 34:01
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• 34:36
  Speaker 15: Twenty four sixty five.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Correcting something I said earlier, I told you the text
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: line four nine four five, one of the Komadat's text
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: line is nothing.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: If not all over Arata.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: On this show, I misspoke and said that cal Rawley's
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: first time at six was last night. He actually bet
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: at six Saturday in Cleveland. They were three, six and
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: five in the series in Cleveland. He betted third on
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: Friday sixth on Saturda Today Sunday he batted fifth. Yes,
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: so Dan Wilson is moving him around. We'll see if
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: tonight he has two games in a row at six,
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: which he hasn't done, but he did Thay three, six
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: and five in the three games in Cleveland. Thank you,
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: I misspoke and I apologize. Thank you for the tax
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: line four nine, four to five to one. Norway has
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: a one nothing lead on Ivory Coast ending the first
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: half in Dallas of the round of thirty two match
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: the marquee game, the best game of the day. It
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: looks like it's going to be Mexico and Ecuador in
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: Mexico City tonight six pm start at the United States
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Tomorrow against Bosnia Herzgovina at five o'clock in the round
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: of thirty two in Santa Clara. If they win, they
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: will play in Seattle on Monday in the round of sixteen.
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: They will play the winner of Belgium and Senegal, who
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: played tomorrow at Lumenfield at one o'clock. Albe at Jimmy's
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: on First broadcasting live across the street from the stadium
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: in the pre match color That goes on for Belgium
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: and Senegal tomorrow in the round of thirty two in Seattle. Yesterday,
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Bloomberg News the Financial Bible said that the first round
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: of for the Seahawks sale was to end yesterday.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: It was a deadline. What's that mean?
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: Well, most likely there's three multiple We know of three
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: reported multiple bidders, including a Adia Mattal who's a steel
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: baron out of India, an investor in the Boston Celtics.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: Wick Crossbeck, who used to be the Boston Celtics principal owner.
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: And then Venad Kosla, who is a founding co founder
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: of Sun Microsystems, who is a minority owner in the
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: San Francisco forty nine ers, is rumored to be in
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: the bidding as well. He'd have to divest those forty
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: nine er funds if he wanted to become the Seahawks owner.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: And the Eldridge Industry CEO Todd Botley Bowley excuse me.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: Bowley is someone who's invested in the Los Angeles Dodgers,
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: and he is trying to get some of the Dodgers'
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: buddies to see if they want to put a bid together.
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: That's reportedly from multiple reports and including Bloomberg. Yesterday was
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: supposed to be the end of the first phase, first
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: round of bidding.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: What's that mean?
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: Well, of course they're going to try to have them
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: bid against each other and drive up the price of
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: the franchise. And I'm sure that those bids have rights
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: of answering what other bids are. You don't just allow
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: it somebody to put one bid in it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 15: Yeah, there's no first writer or fesal or any.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not a blind bid where you don't get
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: a chance to match or come back the estate, come
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: back and say, Okay, here's what this team big b
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: bid you, teammate, you want to bid up again. All
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: signs are that it's going to be well above six
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: billion dollars, which is the current six point zho five
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: is currently the record sale price for an NFL franchise.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: The Washington Commander's Jessamon's team or buddies that worked for
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: them from a couple of years ago. And the word
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: the numbers I'm hearing are starting an eight billion dollars,
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: which would be the largest and second large That would
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: be the second largest franchise stale in North American sports history,
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: behind the Lakers for ten billion last year. I'm still
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: being told and heard from multiple people who say they know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: and I'm not ready to like print it repor verified,
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: but there's another one out there beyond the three?
• 38:03
  Speaker 12: Is it?
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: Someone spear? Thank goodness?
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I think fans would be excited to hear.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: It's local waiting to see what the other bids come
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: in at so they don't outbid themselves.
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: That's what I was going to ask you when you
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: hear those names and where they're from and where their
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: investments lie.
• 38:19
  Speaker 15: How does it make you feel? Because I was disappointed. Well,
• 38:22
  Speaker 15: I didn't like it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Many pro sports franchises are owned by out of town.
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: I'm aware of that, but we were just in the
• 38:27
  Speaker 12: wake of a locally owned team.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: We've been spoiled.
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we've been spoiled for thirty years that the Seahawks
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: have been exactly and the marriage for that matter, although
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: the Mariners had Nintendo for a while. But yeah, the
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: franchises here in Seattle, it's not a given that local
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: owners will buy, especially in the price.
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: We have been spoiled and this is what we've come
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: to expect. And everyone, I mean watching that ring ceremony
• 38:52
  Speaker 12: with the Seahawks, get that, and everyone's like, Jody, please,
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: please don't sell the team just because of what a
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: wonderful job she's done on the player's end, the coaches,
• 39:01
  Speaker 12: and the facilities. She has completely picked up where Paul
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: Allen left off.
• 39:06
  Speaker 15: Rip Paul Allen, but she didn't.
• 39:10
  Speaker 12: She trusted the team the same way that Paul Allen did.
• 39:14
  Speaker 12: And I saw Paul be just an owner that took
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: care of his team and kind of hands off. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: that's how Jody was, except she wasn't afraid to make decisions.
• 39:22
  Speaker 15: You know, when it came to letting Pete Carroll go,
• 39:26
  Speaker 15: she wanted to win.
• 39:27
  Speaker 12: And I think that was the first step to showing
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: that that she wasn't just some bank rolling owner, that
• 39:33
  Speaker 12: she actually cared about this team. Sorry, and getting passionate
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: about it, but I just loved her as an owner.
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: Jody Allen's legacy move for the Seahawks sale or ownership
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: of the team, chair of the team for her brother's
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: trust was choosing John Schneider's.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Path forward over Pete Carroll's. Yes, that was what it
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: came down to.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: Pete Carroll did not want to fire his coordinators. He
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: wanted to stay loyal to his assistants. At the end
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: of a non playoff season a couple of years ago,
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: and John Schneider said, no, we need to clean house,
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: and Carol said no. And Jody Allen was the final
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: arbiter of that, and Jody Allen chose John Schneider's way
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: and for the first time gave John Schneider the control
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: of the football operations of the franchise.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Remember it was basically Pete Carroll who.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: Hired John Schneider as the first time GM in January
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: twenty ten, not vice versa. Carol was the executive vice
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: president of football Operations. He had the final say, and
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: Jody Allen changed that when she fired Pete Carroll and
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: now John Schneider is Mike McDonald's clear boss and it's
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: flipped now it's a first time head coach and a
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: veteran general manager other than the other way around, like
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: it wasn't Pete Carroll and John Schneider got here in
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: twenty ten. So credit for sure Jody Allen for that.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: That was a fork in the road for the franchise
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: and she chose the correct path. Obviously, with Mike McDonald
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: and John Schneider have done in two years speaks for itself.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: So what happens now with the bidding, Well, you have
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: to have my NFL rules at least thirty percent of
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: down payment for your bid, So if it's about eight
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: billion dollars, thirty percent of eight billion has to be
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: the cash put down up front as your bid. So
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: that's first. Secondly, you can take on debt to make
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: your bid. And then the NFL recently allowed private equity
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: groups to get involved up to ten percent that before
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: had not been the case. But because valuations of French
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: and because they want valuations of franchise to continue to
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: go up, the NFL says, Okay, if we're going to
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: make this six, eight, ten billion dollar franch we need
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: to have the ability for buyers to borrow and bring
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: in other partners in private equity that could drive up
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: the value of their bid. And so now you're allowed
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: to have private equity up to ten percent of the
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: team's value, and private equity that's new here in the
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: last couple of years. So those are all potential options.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: I don't think there are only a couple people locally,
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: and the one I have in mind is one of
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: them that can write a check for eight billion dollars
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: in the team outright. Otherwise it's probably going to be
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: a consortium of investors. I think Melinda Gates joining Samantha
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: Halloway in one room Sports and Entertainment that are going
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: to bid on the Sonics. But that kind of bringing
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: in others and partners and things like that's also in
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: play too. There are nothing that I have gotten, no
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: indication that this is going to get done before the
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: season starts.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: That was a kind of a goal and they'd like
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: it to, but I.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Don't see that as feasible right now unless somebody steps
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: up and blows the other bidders away with a clear
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: bit higher than the.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Others, the Seahawks.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: Again, it bears mentioning again Jody Allen, as I have
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: not read, nor has anybody in the media read, the
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: actual will of Paul Allen and his wishes for these franchises.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: But I have been told that Paul Allen wants it
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: to go to the highest bid the maximum amount of
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: money sale for these franchises, so that the money can
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: then go to philanthropy, his charitable causes. So it's in
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: the benefit of his cherrible causes that the Seahawks take
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: the highest bidder here. The NFL does have a say
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: in it in that, of course, it has to be
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: approved by the majority of the owners. So it just
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: can't be Jody Allen picking whoever she wants and then
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: the owners having to go up.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: They have to vote it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: It'd be okay, And we talked in the past about
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: how the NFL owners in particular are very guarded on
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: who they let in to their group of owners, so
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: they will definitely have a say in this.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: But much more to come.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: This is just the first stage of bidding, collecting the
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: bids and see where everybody stands. That's where the Seahawks stands.
• 43:31
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• 43:34
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• 43:36
  Speaker 7: he was the youngest general manager in major league history
• 43:38
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• 43:40
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• 43:44
  Speaker 7: CBS Sports analyst. We're got to talk about the GM
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: dynamic with first time manager Dan Wilson here in Seattle,
• 43:49
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  Speaker 7: Joining us in the Beacon Plumbing Hotline live former Major
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: League Baseball general manager Jim Boden, who's now Serious XM.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: He's with calling this with the Athletic, He's with CBS Sports.
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: He is a trade deadline savant.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: He knows everything about baseball and Major League Baseball and
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: general managership. Hello Jim, thanks for joining us. So you're busy.
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: Hey Greg, great to be back with your show. Thanks
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: for having me on.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: You're welcome.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: It's good to talk to your And I was going
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: to start asking you about something you may in your past.
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember if you have direct experience with this,
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: but a veteran general at Seattle of course, as a
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: veteran general manager slash president and Jerry Depoto hiring a
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: first time field manager. Last time it was Scott Service
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: who had no managerial experience in the major leagues, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: now it's Dan Wilson, who had no managerial experience anywhere.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Can you talk about just the uniqueness of that and
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: what the general manager's role in your mind should be
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: for first time manager. Would he tend to be more
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: hands on and more involved in the day to day
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: planning and operations of a game plan because.
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: Of that, Oh, there's no doubt that's the case.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 45:42
  Speaker 19: I had a couple of rookie managers during my career.
• 45:47
  Speaker 19: All the other managers had more experience, but certainly looks
• 45:51
  Speaker 19: like any job I think in America, when you have
• 45:53
  Speaker 19: somebody that has not done it before, you tend to
• 45:57
  Speaker 19: make sure you're more heavily involved to make.
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: Sure that that person has.
• 46:02
  Speaker 19: The access, the information, the experience people around them to
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: try to lessen the mistakes, because obviously, when you're doing
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: something for the first time, more mistakes take place than
• 46:13
  Speaker 19: if you've had a lot of experience and already learn
• 46:16
  Speaker 19: from the failures, right, and so what you try to
• 46:18
  Speaker 19: do with someone that's doing it for the first time
• 46:20
  Speaker 19: is prevent the failures based on the wisdom that you
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: and the organization have had prior to So you're definitely
• 46:28
  Speaker 19: more involved, especially that first and second year of a
• 46:31
  Speaker 19: rookie manager.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Jim I'm dating myself here, but when I covered major.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: League Baseball as a beat right in early two thousands,
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: the Billy Bean Artiu Ken Mackham moneyball A's the general manager,
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: Billy Bean did not have daily meetings or set okay tonight,
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: you can't use we don't want to use this reliever,
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: or we're not going to put this guy second in order,
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: let's move him down to six daily, like it seems
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: I've been told the Mariners do with Jerry Depoto and
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: Dan Wilson. Is is that the way the game is
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: now or is that in your mind still unusual.
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: No, that's the way the game is now.
• 47:07
  Speaker 19: It's completely changed, and the way the teams are operating
• 47:11
  Speaker 19: is completely different. So you have a much more collaborative,
• 47:15
  Speaker 19: collective approach to the game.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Period.
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: You're utilizing you know.
• 47:20
  Speaker 19: Not your scouts, but analytics technology, artificial intelligence. You're getting
• 47:25
  Speaker 19: as much information from the medical people, from the biometric people,
• 47:30
  Speaker 19: from the conditioning people, from the science, from the engineers
• 47:33
  Speaker 19: on the best way to win baseball games, and all
• 47:36
  Speaker 19: of that is baked in and cooked in, and so
• 47:39
  Speaker 19: it takes more people and takes more minds to try
• 47:41
  Speaker 19: to get it right.
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: You know. That's what the Seattle Mariners are doing right
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: now as you know.
• 47:46
  Speaker 19: I mean, they've got six starting pitchers and they've been
• 47:50
  Speaker 19: trying to navigate how to handle it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: And basically, what.
• 47:53
  Speaker 19: Jerry Depoto did was he got himself in the front office,
• 47:56
  Speaker 19: along with his advanced team, along with Dan Wilson, along
• 48:00
  Speaker 19: with the pitching coaches, the analytic people together to try
• 48:05
  Speaker 19: to figure out how do we best handle this problem
• 48:09
  Speaker 19: that we have with six starting pitchers, all of them
• 48:11
  Speaker 19: deserve to start. And basically they came up with three
• 48:14
  Speaker 19: different options. The first one was send a starter of
• 48:17
  Speaker 19: the bullpen, which is what.
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: I would have done.
• 48:19
  Speaker 19: I would have put Louis Castillo in the bullpen, but
• 48:21
  Speaker 19: they didn't want to do that. The second option was
• 48:24
  Speaker 19: to run a six man rotation, but there were too
• 48:26
  Speaker 19: many people in that collective group that were concerned about
• 48:29
  Speaker 19: how a seven man bullpen would manage the workload that's
• 48:32
  Speaker 19: needed to keep everybody healthy and effective. And then the
• 48:36
  Speaker 19: third option was a split game, which they did with
• 48:39
  Speaker 19: Miller and Castillo. And so when the collective group.
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: Came in, and it wasn't unanimous, but.
• 48:46
  Speaker 19: When the collective group came in, they opted for option
• 48:50
  Speaker 19: three at that time, and of course things have changed
• 48:53
  Speaker 19: because of off days, etc. Then they actually went to.
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: A six man rotation, as you know. But you know,
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: the one thing the.
• 49:01
  Speaker 19: Group decided was that there they were a better team
• 49:05
  Speaker 19: if all six are pitching for them and all are
• 49:07
  Speaker 19: linked in doubt the long term, that protects them from injuries, etc.
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: The other thing is they kind of did a hiccup
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: at the beginning because they didn't really communicate well with
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: all the pitchers.
• 49:19
  Speaker 19: But they circled back and then they met with all
• 49:22
  Speaker 19: six pitchers and then they laid out the same three
• 49:25
  Speaker 19: options to the six pitchers, and the group of the
• 49:28
  Speaker 19: six pitchers didn't want to send a starter to the pen.
• 49:32
  Speaker 19: They didn't want to run a six man rotation. So
• 49:35
  Speaker 19: the group of pitchers ended up agreeing with Dan Wilson
• 49:37
  Speaker 19: and Jerry Depoto in the front office and they danced
• 49:40
  Speaker 19: team et.
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: Cetera, etcetera.
• 49:41
  Speaker 19: The analytic people that splitting a game probably was the
• 49:45
  Speaker 19: best avenue to go, although not ideal, and that's kind
• 49:49
  Speaker 19: of where it stands right now.
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: But to your point, which is a great.
• 49:54
  Speaker 19: Question, would this have happened when you were the beat writer? No,
• 49:57
  Speaker 19: would this have happened when I was the GM. No,
• 50:00
  Speaker 19: this would not have happened. But that is how they
• 50:04
  Speaker 19: have come to the decision, and they're doing it collectively
• 50:07
  Speaker 19: with the whole idea they're going to either succeed or fail.
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: As a group.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: This is Jim Bowden. He's former Major League Baseball general manager.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: He was the youngest general manager.
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: In base Major League Baseball history in nineteen ninety two
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: and he was, at thirty one years old, the general
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: manager of the Reds. He's now Serrus XM the athletic
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: columnists and CBS Sports joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Okay,
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: I agree with you. I have said I would put
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: Louis Castiu in the bullpen. Yet as this arrangement is
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: six starters, has he's pitched as well as he has
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: in a couple of years under this arrangement, as you
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: know around baseball, what is his market value now that
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: he hasn't gone to the bullpen? Because I submit that's
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: the whole reason they're doing this, because a reliever Louis
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: Castillo at twenty four million dollars a year is not tradeable.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: A starter Louis Castillo, with how he's performing at twenty
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: four million could be more palatable. What's his trade market
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: right now hitting in July.
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, if he keeps pitching the way he's pitching, certainly
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: it's going to improve. I mean, I think you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 10: other teams.
• 51:01
  Speaker 19: Are still looking at him with an ERA of four
• 51:03
  Speaker 19: point nine three overall with seventy.
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: Three strikeouts at seventy six innings. But to your point,
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: you know, he has pitched much better in the pen.
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: His stuff has ticked up, you.
• 51:14
  Speaker 19: Know, but he's only you know, one or two times
• 51:16
  Speaker 19: around the lineup is all you're getting. And when you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 19: you start talking about, you know, what he's making at
• 51:22
  Speaker 19: twenty four point one five million, you know, and you've
• 51:26
  Speaker 19: got that vesting option also in twenty twenty eight at
• 51:30
  Speaker 19: twenty five million. I mean, that's a lot of money
• 51:32
  Speaker 19: still on the books. So you're not sure the contract
• 51:35
  Speaker 19: is movable right now. But I think you know, the
• 51:38
  Speaker 19: other issue too, is that you know, you've got Katie
• 51:40
  Speaker 19: Anderson coming, You've got Ryan Sloan coming.
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: Anderson probably gonna end.
• 51:43
  Speaker 19: Up in the bullpen here. But I think to win
• 51:45
  Speaker 19: a championship you're going to need all six starters.
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: So I don't think they're going through this.
• 51:50
  Speaker 19: With the idea of we're going to trade Louis or
• 51:52
  Speaker 19: anybody in that group. I think it's more how do
• 51:56
  Speaker 19: we best prepare for October? How do we best prepare
• 51:59
  Speaker 19: when we get to October to win the championship? And
• 52:02
  Speaker 19: Castillo is going to be in the bullpen in October,
• 52:04
  Speaker 19: You're not going to start, you know, the other five
• 52:07
  Speaker 19: guys or four, the other five guys will be starting
• 52:10
  Speaker 19: and two will pitch out of the bullpen in all likelihood, right,
• 52:13
  Speaker 19: you probably go with four starters in that format. So
• 52:16
  Speaker 19: I think that's kind of where it is to trade
• 52:19
  Speaker 19: Castillo now. I mean sure, if somebody wanted to take
• 52:21
  Speaker 19: all that money off the books, you'd consider it. But
• 52:25
  Speaker 19: at the same time, boy, if there's one problem I'd
• 52:27
  Speaker 19: like to have Seattle to have too much pitching. Yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 19: exactly right, that's a problem I would love to have
• 52:33
  Speaker 19: right now, especially the way the American League is set.
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: Up, Jim, because it's so just plain unconventional. Would you,
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: as a general managould be willing to if your ownership
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: allowed you to eat some money to trade Castillo if
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: that would solve this six people for five spots.
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: No, I wouldn't I would solve it by putting Castillo
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: in the pen. I mean, I can't emphasize that enough.
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: And I know they don't want to, and I totally
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: understand that out of respect to Louis Castillo's history, you know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: of being an All Star and how good he's been
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: in his career. But you know, I always believe.
• 53:07
  Speaker 19: I mean, I believe number one of five in rotation
• 53:09
  Speaker 19: is the.
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: Way to go. And I'm the old school, which is
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: the five best.
• 53:12
  Speaker 19: Starters start, regardless of contract, regardless of history, regardless of anything.
• 53:18
  Speaker 19: I'm paid to win championships. I'm going with the five. Louis,
• 53:22
  Speaker 19: you're gonna have to you know, you're gonna have to
• 53:24
  Speaker 19: pitch out of the pen, and that's what I would do.
• 53:26
  Speaker 19: I know he doesn't want to.
• 53:27
  Speaker 10: I know that's not what he would like.
• 53:29
  Speaker 19: But you know, to me, you got to make tough
• 53:30
  Speaker 19: decisions here. But they can get by doing it the
• 53:33
  Speaker 19: way they are for now. At some point they're gonna
• 53:36
  Speaker 19: have to make that decision, though you know it's to me,
• 53:39
  Speaker 19: it's really hard because what's your other option. I mean,
• 53:42
  Speaker 19: let's be honest. Bryce Miller has been one of the
• 53:44
  Speaker 19: best pitchers in baseball. Since he got off the il
• 53:46
  Speaker 19: with oblique. Let's be realistic, Emerson Hancock is having his
• 53:50
  Speaker 19: breakout season and he's been solid since day one, and Gilbert,
• 53:54
  Speaker 19: Rooke and Kirby are just studs. All have been All
• 53:57
  Speaker 19: Stars and all have gotten cy young boats over the
• 53:59
  Speaker 19: last few years. So who do.
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: You feel best about putting in the pen? Well, it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 10: easy for me. It's Castillo. Now, I know he's pitched better.
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: I get it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 19: I think he'd even be better if he was put
• 54:09
  Speaker 19: in a shorter spurts where you only have to face
• 54:14
  Speaker 19: four hitters.
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: I think the stuff would pick up.
• 54:16
  Speaker 19: Even more and give them a solid pitcher for the
• 54:19
  Speaker 19: sixth and seventh inning and add some depth.
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: So again, that's what I would do. But I respect
• 54:24
  Speaker 10: what they're doing and I'm fine with the process because
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: the process.
• 54:28
  Speaker 19: They have collectively included all six starters, and they've included
• 54:33
  Speaker 19: the front office, the pitching coaches, and the manager and
• 54:36
  Speaker 19: everyone's part of this decision. So because of the way
• 54:39
  Speaker 19: they're handling it, I'm fine with it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: You mentioned Kate Anderson at Double A Arkansas, who's just shoving?
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: Do you bring him up and just have your best
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: thirteen dudes? For October, Or do you worry about slotting
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: him and not starting him because he's been a start
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: all that, or you just bring up your best thirteen
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: guys and he's one of them.
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah. I want to win a championship.
• 54:58
  Speaker 19: I got a window here and see out of the
• 55:00
  Speaker 19: win a championship.
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: I have a league with parody. You know, I'm more.
• 55:03
  Speaker 19: You know, the Yankees are really good, the Rays are good,
• 55:06
  Speaker 19: Cleveland's pretty good, Chicago's okay. But the Mariners can do
• 55:10
  Speaker 19: it this year? You know, this is the window.
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: This is it. Last year. Legit chance to win. This year,
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: legit chance to win. I'm going every I'm doing everything
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: I can to win that. And if Kate Anderson needs
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: to be in the big leagues pitching out of the pen,
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: then I'm doing it because I'm trying to win a
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: championship and nothing's going to stand in my prigging way.
• 55:30
  Speaker 10: It's just like I know they're not looking for it.
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: I try to go get another bath. I don't care
• 55:34
  Speaker 10: if the d H or right fielder, I don't.
• 55:36
  Speaker 19: I don't care how or where I'm going to get
• 55:39
  Speaker 19: another frigging bat, just like he did last year when
• 55:41
  Speaker 19: he went and got you know, Josh Naylor and Hennio Suarez,
• 55:47
  Speaker 19: go get one more. Let's bring up Anderson, Let's go
• 55:49
  Speaker 19: get one more, and let's go for it. This is
• 55:52
  Speaker 19: an exciting time. Look, I know they're underachieving. I get it,
• 55:55
  Speaker 19: but the offense isn't doing what they're supposed to do.
• 55:58
  Speaker 19: But here's the one thing I learned in my seventeen
• 56:01
  Speaker 19: years of being a GM. The pitching in August and
• 56:05
  Speaker 19: September is what's going to set you up for October.
• 56:08
  Speaker 19: That's when teams separate. The teams with the best pitching
• 56:11
  Speaker 19: separates in August. In September, that's when Seattle's going to
• 56:14
  Speaker 19: win this division. That's when they're going to win the West.
• 56:17
  Speaker 19: Then the next step is going to be how am
• 56:19
  Speaker 19: I best prepared in October to run the table and
• 56:23
  Speaker 19: get to that World Series.
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: Jim Bowden, former general manager now Sirius XM and the
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: Athletic and CBS Sports joining us on the Beacon Plumbing hotline.
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: They have intimated in the local press Jim that they
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: will seek a right handed bat, in particular because Rev.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: Snyder's hitting one thirty seven against lefties and they are
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: troubles all season against left handed pitching. Could you see
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: Heydo Suarez coming back for a third go round. I
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: mean there's some teams like the Reds and others that
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: are already way out of it. I know the markets early,
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: but what do you see available to the Mariners if
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: they wanted to add a right handed bat?
• 57:01
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I don't see a lot right now. And they're
• 57:04
  Speaker 19: not the only team looking for that right handed that
• 57:06
  Speaker 19: Philadelphia Phillies have been everywhere looking for it. You know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 19: the hard part is when I talk to gms every week,
• 57:13
  Speaker 19: the hard part is, right now, who's really selling Besides
• 57:16
  Speaker 19: the Rockies and Giants. Everybody else is kind of in between.
• 57:20
  Speaker 19: So you're just gonna have to wait this out a.
• 57:24
  Speaker 10: Little bit more. You know, the gms right now are
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: focused on the draft, which is in a couple of weeks.
• 57:29
  Speaker 19: After the all start break, things will you know, start
• 57:33
  Speaker 19: to materialize and there'll be more teams that drop back
• 57:36
  Speaker 19: and drop out of it. But you know, the one
• 57:39
  Speaker 19: good thing Seattle does have if they wanted to is
• 57:43
  Speaker 19: you know, they have a good farm system to go
• 57:45
  Speaker 19: get a piece that they need to get. They could
• 57:49
  Speaker 19: trade a castillo in a package with a prospect or
• 57:51
  Speaker 19: two to try to get a beat that way as
• 57:54
  Speaker 19: well as you know, so you know, we'll have to see.
• 57:56
  Speaker 19: I don't have any obvious names for you. There's just
• 57:59
  Speaker 19: too many teams that are the race right now, and
• 58:01
  Speaker 19: to me, there's just not not I have not heard
• 58:04
  Speaker 19: any big name, like even the Angels, although that may
• 58:07
  Speaker 19: change with John Moseloc taking over.
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: But even they, Kurna Manassi was telling people that he
• 58:12
  Speaker 10: that his owner wasn't going to let.
• 58:14
  Speaker 19: Him trade Joe Adabt even so, I mean, I don't
• 58:17
  Speaker 19: know how that's going to play out with the new
• 58:18
  Speaker 19: leadership with the Angels. You know, perhaps he's a player
• 58:22
  Speaker 19: that could become available, but right now, with that many
• 58:25
  Speaker 19: teams in a race and everybody within striking distance, there's
• 58:30
  Speaker 19: really not that much available.
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: Having said that, league wide, Trek Scougbel is of course
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: the tantalizing potential big fish at the trade dead on
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: because it was thirty two million dollar arbitration award with
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: the Tigers. If you were the Tigers, GM, would you
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: ride that out and see if you can get back
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: in the race or you're on the fringes of it?
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: Of course, wild Card keeps you in it mathematically all
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: the way until September, even if your stink, What would
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: you do with Schooble having him just had elbow surgery
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: not too what a month and a half ago?
• 59:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so, Greg, great question.
• 59:02
  Speaker 19: I would have traded him in the offseason. I wouldn't
• 59:04
  Speaker 19: even gone into the season like that. I would have
• 59:06
  Speaker 19: gotten the most I could in the off season and
• 59:08
  Speaker 19: absolutely load up, knowing I wasn't going to be able
• 59:11
  Speaker 19: to extend him, and knowing that he was going to
• 59:13
  Speaker 19: leave after this year, and so they decided the other way.
• 59:17
  Speaker 19: They decided, we'll go get from Ravaldez. We'll try to
• 59:20
  Speaker 19: get to the postseason less school. Bul Valdez and Casey
• 59:23
  Speaker 19: may'es try to run the table for us, which, okay,
• 59:26
  Speaker 19: that's fine.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: They're not in a good position, but the league get
• 59:30
  Speaker 10: sets that they could jump into it if they get hot.
• 59:33
  Speaker 19: What I would be doing right now is a hoping
• 59:35
  Speaker 19: school bull pitches better than he has since he's come
• 59:38
  Speaker 19: off the il, which I think he will. The command
• 59:40
  Speaker 19: and control isn't there. The stuff's there, the strikeouts are there,
• 59:43
  Speaker 19: but the command putting it where he wants to is not.
• 59:46
  Speaker 19: But he's given up some runs here in his three starts,
• 59:48
  Speaker 19: since number one.
• 59:50
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna get on my.
• 59:51
  Speaker 19: Hands and knees and pray that he gets hot and
• 59:53
  Speaker 19: starts pitching like the guy that won the cy Young
• 59:55
  Speaker 19: the last two years and goes back to that two
• 59:57
  Speaker 19: yarra instead of the three yarra. I'm gonna pray for
• 59:59
  Speaker 19: that number two. I'm going to be using this time
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 19: right now to call all twenty nine teams.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: And letting them know there's a good possibility if we
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: don't turn.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 19: Things around them, I'm gonna be moving Schooble, and I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 19: need to know ahead of time exactly what your interest is,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 19: what prospects are off limits, what kind of package you'd
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 19: be willing to trade. And I would be doing all
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 19: my homework right now, and then I would be ready
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 19: to pounce the minute I got a trade that I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 19: thought would really help me win in twenty seven, twenty
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 19: eight and beyond. I would not wait, because if you wait,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 19: there could be an injury and you.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: Get nothing for him. I don't want to be.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 19: The Angels who three years ago could have traded shoey
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 19: Otani for junior Cameronaro and decided not to, knowing that
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 19: they weren't going to be able to resign them. That's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 19: a non deal that will haunt that organization for the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 19: next decade. Cam and Arrow is gonna end up in
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 19: the Hall of Fame, and they could have had him
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 19: for a two month rental. I'm not making that mistake
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 19: if I'm running the Tigers. So you're going to give
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 19: me that offer that you want, I'm going to go
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 19: and my phone is going to be ringing to Brian Cashman,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 19: It's going to be ringing to Andrew Freeman. It's going
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 19: to be ringing to Alexandthopolis and all those other contending
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 19: teams that would like Schoolble pitching for them in October.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: Jim Boden, thank you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: It's the text line that took comadats text Life four nine,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: four to five on is blowing up with Can the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: Mariners hired Jim Bowden right now?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: He's on point. I know the job's not open, but yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 19: You've got You've got great executives there. I'm a big
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 19: fan of Jerry Depoto and the staff there. So anyway,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 19: thanks for having me on, Greg, I really appreciate it
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 19: and hope you have a great day.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, I hope to do it again soon.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: Jim Bowden, former major League Baseball general manager now with
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: Sirius XM the Athletic.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: He's a commist for the Athletic. He's also in CBS
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Sports and.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: He's saying, I put Kestee in the bullpen, and in fact,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: Jim Boden told us I'd put him in for short
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: stints like a true reliever, four batters and see what
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  Speaker 7: his stuff looks like.
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  Speaker 12: Then, Man, it takes a little pressure off. It might
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 12: be a blow to the eat.
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  Speaker 7: It's going to hurt his feelings, and that's what they've
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: been trying to protect.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a clubhouse leader, and.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: There's some there the Mariners are considering that those on
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: the outside don't tangibles.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but.
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  Speaker 7: His point, I'm rolling with four in the postseason anyway,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: And he's right, because you're gonna have a seven game
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: so you're not gonna start five guys in the playoffs.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: It's certainly not gonna start six. So and you're not
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: gonna piggyback in the playoffs. You're gonna bring in if
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: you have to matchups early in games. We've seen the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: playoffs here a year or two now, the Mariners. But
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: his point is you're not going to run out of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: full rotation in the postseason anyway, So let's put him
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: in the bullpen. Now you're gonna have an upset least
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: Cat Steele, but he's twenty one million dollar checks will
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: still clear. So that's an interesting perspective that we haven't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: really talked about in this market of just doing it
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: now rather than later. And he also says, Yep, Kate
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: Anderson's coming, and you just get your thirteen best horses
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: in you roll. And if Kate Anderson's a spot reliever
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: in situations in September October, so be it. You get
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: your thirteen best dudes, and he's one of them. He
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: also says he'd go get a bat, come hell or
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: high water, he would go at a batt. He also
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: said the Mariners are in competition with the Phillies and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: others on trying to get that right handed bat that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: could solve some of their problems against leftanded pitching. If
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  Speaker 12: He's wonderful and very very adamant. He loves doing these
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 12: hits on radio and everything. I know that he has
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: been a contributor to multiple shows on our station. But
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 12: today was a perfect day to get that out of him,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 12: just considering where we are with the pitching staff, where
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 12: the Mariners are right now, and where it is with
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 12: Luis Castillo. Him just flat out do it now. Cut
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 12: like we're at the band aid off. Put him in
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: there now.
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  Speaker 7: It's also interesting to hear him say this is baseball today.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: The GM meeting is a president meeting with managers and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: saying you're not using this guy tonight, and the analytics
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: say do this tonight.
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  Speaker 4: That everyone does that. It's not just the Mariners.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: So when you say Dan Wilson's handcuff, a lot of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: managers apparently are handcuffed.
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  Speaker 15: Or it's just the way it is.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: It's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 15: It's a group effort.
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  Speaker 7: And he as he said, it was never that way
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: when he was a GM. He was a GM from
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: nineteen ninety two until the late two thousands. Last with
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: the Washington Nationals, and yeah, he said, the game has
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: completely changed since then and since when I was a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: beat writer as well. But people in this city don't
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: understand that the many of the moves that Dan Wilson
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: makes are not Dan Wilson's moves. We talked about this yesterday.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: They are Jerry Depoto slash Justin Hollerd, But Jerry Depoto
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: because he's Hollander's boss too, those are Jerry Depoto's moves.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: The three days, you can't do a reliever three days
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: in a row. A reliever can't start a new ending
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  Speaker 7: after finishing one.
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  Speaker 4: All of that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: Moonyos is only going to pitch the ninth, which is
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: just baffling to me. Pitching when the best hitters are
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: up in the most important part of the game. If
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: that's the seventh, eighth or night four nine, four to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 7: five one, you are already some feedback on the Tacoma text
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  Speaker 7: line about that. He deferred and said, no, he's not
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: available for the manage GM job.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry. Filter.
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  Speaker 12: He did compliment the executives that we just have, though,
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  Speaker 12: so I think he thinks that we're in good hands,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 12: and I trust that man's opinion.
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  Speaker 4: He also, who wants to maintain his sources around Major
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: League Baseball and not just burn him up.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 12: Greg, allow me to create some grace in this situation.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Just telling you how journalism works. That's just it.
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  Speaker 7: If he's an insider anywhere anyway, Fournite four five one,
• 1:05:30
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  Speaker 7: in a round of sixteen. If you missed it earlier,
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  Speaker 7: someone on the text line from the three to six
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  Speaker 7: oh asking the update on the Seahawks sale is that
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: at their first round of bidding, Bloomberg News said was
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: to end yesterday first round of bidding, implying that they
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: will then play those bids off each other and give
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: everybody else a chance to rebid. There are three known
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: groups out there, and there's a fourth waiting in the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: wings that we'll see local, local based.
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  Speaker 15: That's what I like to hear.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 15: I'm very high in the sky about that situation, and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 15: I don't care.
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  Speaker 7: Also on the text line four nine four to five one,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: we you know what time it is because the music
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: says so great. Point on Castilla, the two six says
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: about moving into the bullpen now, if he can't be
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: a receiver reliever, I'm sure that meant he is probably
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: not on the playoff roster anyway.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: That's true because of what Jim Boden just told us.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: You're not going with Luis Castillo in the starting rotation
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: for the playoffs. You're going with your best five and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: your best four in fact in a seven game series,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: even maybe three in a five game series in the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: division series.
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  Speaker 4: And Castilla is not one of those.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: And so he can't hack go into the bullpen now
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: or doesn't perform, Well, why would you put him on
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: the playoff right, Well, besides because you're paying twenty one
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: and a half million dollars for him and you have
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: a club option for him for twenty twenty eight. Bowden
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: says he would put him in for four outs, Go
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: get four batters and see what his stuff looks like.
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  Speaker 10: Then.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's an interesting concept that.
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  Speaker 15: I haven't heard. No, no, we tarked a bullpen, but
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 15: not four outs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting look at it.
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  Speaker 7: But there's a couple of people on the tech slide
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: two O six, how refreshing a former GM that makes
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: more sense in our current one there's no way the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: two o six, there's no way they would hire Jim
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: Bowden because he's too smart and right on target with
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: what needs to happen.
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  Speaker 15: Oh jeez, well, I would just say too.
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  Speaker 12: The biggest thing that I heard from him was how
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 12: passionate he was about this being the year. Oh yeah,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 12: that was awesome. I love to hear it, and I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 12: hope the fans did too. And that's probably what they're
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 12: latching too as well, because of how direct he was
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 12: about go and you throw everything at it, throw everything
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 12: at it.
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  Speaker 4: He said, this is it, this is it. This is
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: your time to win.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 15: It's also it. He said, yes, in a.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: Parody league, with a league that is this bad, with
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 7: only four winning teams, you're at five hundred and your
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: half game out. This is it, as he put it,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: you had the best team in the division. You're gonna
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: make the playoffs. Go get it now, and he go
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: get a bat. He says, I'd do anything I could
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: to go get a bat. And he said the Mariners
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: have the roster to go get a bat. We'll see
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: get two five three. Can Jim Bowden be our general
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: manager or manager? He is on point, great show.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 15: He is really good.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 12: He's really good. Yeah, there's I'd like this. One's great
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 12: point on Tescu. If we find out he can't be
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 12: a reliever, he is probably not on our playoff roster anyway.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, because you're not going to have him
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: as a starter.
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  Speaker 15: Yep.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: A couple of you at the top of the show
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: asked about Chris Kidd. I mentioned it yesterday at TAPA show.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: I'll mention it again if you missed it, and probably did.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: Chris Kidd was my producer for the show I had
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: for nine months starting twenty twenty four, and of course
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 7: he was again. I came back on the show here
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: this spring. He's no longer employed by iHeart. They said
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 7: that the Seattle market needed to make a cost saving
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: move and so Chris Kids is no longer working here.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: Jess when McIntyre has moved from the afternoon show to now.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: She was on with Ian and Andrews at the noon show.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: Now she's working with me and I'm honored and blessed
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: to have her in their experience. And Jim Bowden is
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: a friend in the colleague of hers, which is why
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: we got her. Got him because of her. So that's Chris.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: We wish him all the best. I miss him already,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: and yeah we had a bit a cool thing go on.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: But I do miss him. But thank you for asking him.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: That's where it is. Four two five says I don't
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: have a problem with the training stab. My problem was
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: the manager. They went on.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Talent alone should have at least six to eight more
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: wins this year.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: I don't think anyone would argue with that that they
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: should definitely have at least six and more wins two
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 7: o six. They need to focus on their job, not
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: Twitter so soft.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, that in reference to Justin Hollander talking about
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 12: lunatic for an fans that are being critical on Twitter
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 12: and apparently on sports talk radio too, but not us.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 15: Not like that.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 12: That was in reference to the criticism of the training
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 12: staff take out about them.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: That was unprompted, unsolicited, by the way, getting.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 15: It started off his thing, By the.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: Way, I want to defend our training staff. Jeff the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: three six oh long time listening to the station. The
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: only reason Kirby got to finish the eighth was because
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: the poto had to use the bathroom.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 12: That is kind of funny, but this from the three six.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 12: Oh I'm sorry, Greg, I didn't get to hear what's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 12: going on with the Seahawks sale?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 15: Can you briefly cover this?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: I just I just did at the topic.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry if you miss it again, like j Justman did.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: The first bids are due tomorrow.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: We're due yesterday, according to Bloomberg News, the first round
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: of bids, and that implies that there will be other
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: rounds and then they'll try to play those bids off
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: of each other to raise the sale price. All indications
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: are the sale price is going to be above six
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: point oh five billion.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: It's that number.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: That's what the Washington Commanders sold for a few years ago,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: the highest valuation sale in NFL history. NFL owners want
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: each sale after that to be higher than the one
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: before it, so that their franchise valuations can go up too.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: With all the money that goes into the NFL, with
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: media rights and merchandising now the international games, it would
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: be poor business sense for franchise valuations to go down
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: year over years. Oh yeah, but especially the Seahawks, who
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: are the Super Bowl champions and one of the only
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: teams within a shouting distance of the Pacific Northwest. I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: mean the closest franchises are in Denver in San Francisco.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: So yes, this franchise should be valued top and it is.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: And I'm told that bidding's going to probably started around
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: eight billion dollars.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: It could reach ten.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: That would be a North American market franchise valuation record.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: The record is ten billion dollars last year with the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: Los Angeles Lakers.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's interesting the way the sale is coming about, too,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 12: because other sales have been for other reasons, and then
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 12: this one is, you know, by the letter of the will,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 12: if you will, it's it's Paul Aland's wishes and it's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 12: not a bad thing. And going out for a Super
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 12: Bowl trophy for Jody, I think you couldn't ask for
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: a better ending for her.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: But that's a good point about the dynamics of the sale.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: When teams are for sale in sports, it's generally because
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: the owner wants to maximize his property, bought it at
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 7: a certain price and now he thinks it's the time
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: to sell, or he's personal issues or business issues, or
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: But this is because when Paul Allen died in his will,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: it was you must sell the Blazers and the Seahawks,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 7: and it's taken this many years since his death in
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: twenty eighteen four the lawyers to get around to clearing
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: this part of his estate. That's the gist of what
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: is happening here. This Blazer sold for four billion to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: Tom Dundan earlier this year, and the Seahawks are gone
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: on sale too, So that's where this all came from,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: in the genesis of it, the background of it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 15: That's just the least negative sale I've ever heard.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: Yes and yes, exactly.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: And there's not a time because of this dynamic, and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: the owners are only selling because of the will in
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: the estate. Is not a like time crunch where they
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: have to do it by a certain time. The NFL
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 7: would like it to be done soon, but only so
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: the other owners knew what their franchise valuation or how
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: they've gone up since the Washington Commanders sale. But no,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: there's not a Jody Allen must sell by September or else.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: There's not a there's not a stipulation, and the owner
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: is not trying to unload quickly.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: So that's part of the reason this is dragging out
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 7: Two six, asking about justin Hollander, you heard it from
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 7: him earlier in the show. Is he frustrated with the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: fans or his own incompetence. It's an interesting maybe rehetordable.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 12: Co people are frustrated right now, you know, and I understand.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 15: So we're going to see a lot of that.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 12: I do like this one from Keith Miller has Softy
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 12: put in his bid to buy the Seahawks.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: Yet the Softy have eight billion dollars laying around. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: didn't know that.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 12: If he did, I'd be really mad at him for
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 12: not giving me a little bit.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: That would be over his house for offers.
• 1:15:08
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• 1:15:10
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  Speaker 15: Oh you know what, we do have a talk back here, hey.
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  Speaker 7: Greg and Jessmon, Chris Emberrien.
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  Speaker 3: You know the whole craze fans about our training staff.
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  Speaker 4: That's just a distracts.
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  Speaker 3: That's look over here, look at the wonder over here.
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  Speaker 2: Well you don't talk about what's over there, and what
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  Speaker 2: that is is a manager that can't manage can't manage
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  Speaker 2: his batting order.
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  Speaker 4: It can't manage his pitching staff.
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  Speaker 15: Come up thirty seconds or less, Chris.
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  Speaker 12: But thank you for Chris. Thank It's not me. It's
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  Speaker 12: a little iHeart microphone. Yeah no, yeah, I think we
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  Speaker 12: know that the last word was on come.
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  Speaker 15: I actually think it's funnier when they cut off.
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  Speaker 4: Its pretty funny.
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  Speaker 15: Bam they cut your exclamation point. Yeah no, thank you, Chris.
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  Speaker 12: We'll get more of these in throughout the shows as
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  Speaker 12: we continue to So if you want your voice heard,
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  Speaker 4: Oh, we got a goal. We got a goal.
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  Speaker 7: The Court de Diavory had tied the game at one
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  Speaker 7: one in the second half.
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  Speaker 17: Norway, the team with the got the ponytail. Yeah, where's
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  Speaker 17: herling Holland where's he?
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  Speaker 7: He's he's in the middle of the field unless they
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  Speaker 7: just lifted him for defense because it's a but yes,
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  Speaker 7: they scored in the eighty eighth minute. Norway did in
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  Speaker 7: Dallas to take a two to one lead on either ball.
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  Speaker 4: Guy, all right, good, you're still up there, all right?
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  Speaker 4: Win our place at Brazil Sunday in the Meadowlands.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, congrats.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah last night. Yeah, oh Paraguay.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now they have to play France.
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  Speaker 10: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy.
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  Speaker 7: So we had the we played earlier justin Hollander, the
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  Speaker 7: Mariners general manager, calling the Seattle Mariner fans I say
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  Speaker 7: a section of them a lunatic fringe, which I thought
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  Speaker 7: was a little bit of an unfair snipe at a
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  Speaker 7: franchises fan base that has never ever tasted the World
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  Speaker 7: Series in the fifty years of their existence.
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  Speaker 4: Could you see that, my Torque families?
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  Speaker 17: I think the bigger just mentioned this earlier, and we've
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  Speaker 17: talked about this used the word apathy before, you know,
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  Speaker 17: I always kind of I come back to that, you know,
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  Speaker 17: and I've had listen, I'll be honest, I've had this
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  Speaker 17: conversation with Kevin Martinez before a team president, and on
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  Speaker 17: a number of occasions that would you rather fans be
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  Speaker 17: apathetic or would you rather they be pissed off? Like
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  Speaker 17: it's just it's it's the easy answer is you'd want
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  Speaker 17: them to be mad, because then they care. I'll give
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  Speaker 17: you an example last week when the Todd Liwiki video,
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  Speaker 17: when we had that, we played that and I was
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  Speaker 17: I wasn't more.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't worried.
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  Speaker 17: About what the reaction would be, you know, especially with
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  Speaker 17: my name and face on it.
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  Speaker 4: That's my job.
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  Speaker 17: I don't I don't mind being hell in a sense.
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  Speaker 17: I'm justin Holland. I'm going to protect my franchise right
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  Speaker 17: and my employer. But I wasn't worried about what the
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  Speaker 17: reaction would be in terms of it being negative. I
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  Speaker 17: was worried if there would be a reaction, and there was,
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  Speaker 17: And I was telling Rich Moore, I was telling our
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  Speaker 17: program director, I was, I was, And we looked at it.
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  Speaker 17: There was a pop on the two times we played it.
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  Speaker 17: There's a lot of people tuning in. They wanted to
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  Speaker 17: hear what Todd had to say, and then they were
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  Speaker 17: pissed off and disappointed because of what he did say.
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  Speaker 4: They thought he should have said more and all that,
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  Speaker 4: which is fine.
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  Speaker 17: We can debait that and how ludicrous it is to
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  Speaker 17: think that a guy is going to give out his
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  Speaker 17: trade secrets and how they're doing things. But the fact
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  Speaker 17: that people were upset and we had literally as many
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  Speaker 17: text as we would have for a big seahawk topic,
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  Speaker 17: that's a good sign.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: And if you're justin Hollander and your team has, as
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  Speaker 17: you said, never been to the World Series, much less
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  Speaker 17: won it, you should be happy. There's a quote lunatic fringe.
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  Speaker 4: Out there, but there isn't.
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  Speaker 17: I don't think it's a lunatic fringe. I, by the way,
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  Speaker 17: one of the great songs of all time. But yeah
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  Speaker 17: writer from movie Vision Quest, But yeah, I think you know,
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  Speaker 17: lunatic fringe tell is more. I take that honestly.
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  Speaker 4: As being.
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  Speaker 17: Diehards, like people that really care, and that's a good thing,
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  Speaker 17: Like you want that, like you. I mean, lunatic fringe
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  Speaker 17: is probably more South end zone guy lu midfield like
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  Speaker 17: we're in the construction seahawk hat neck tattoo, like lose
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  Speaker 17: his mind on every first down. I mean, just that's
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  Speaker 17: a good thing. Though you want that. You and I
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  Speaker 17: have been to enough NFL stadiums where you don't have that, no, right,
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  Speaker 17: and like think about going to a game at so far,
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  Speaker 17: I think the Rams are getting better, but man, the
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  Speaker 17: first couple of Rams games we went to help remember
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  Speaker 17: the first couple of games in LA Coliseum, it was
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  Speaker 17: it was a home game for for US, for Seattle
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  Speaker 17: and for anybody else playing there.
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  Speaker 4: They have to still to this day they have to
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  Speaker 4: short the fans in LA.
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  Speaker 17: To and then that and think about the Chargers. They've
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  Speaker 17: never played a home game in LA and Arizona never
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  Speaker 17: has either, you know, right, Like like you want the
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  Speaker 17: lunatic fringe.
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  Speaker 4: I would think, as Jessman said, he's defending his training staff. Sure,
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  Speaker 4: and I get that.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, And we also pointed out that he started out
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  Speaker 12: with that. He wasn't asked about it before we get
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  Speaker 12: to anything else. He started his dugout session with that,
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  Speaker 12: so it was on his mind.
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  Speaker 17: Yes, I'm gonna get this little later. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 17: there's a lot there. I think it's just I sometimes
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  Speaker 17: I appreciate On June thirtieth, Justin Hollander, I appreciate.
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  Speaker 4: Him a lot.
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  Speaker 17: On June thirty, a month away from the start of
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  Speaker 17: training camp for the NFL, I really appreciate it. I
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  Speaker 17: know what the show is, what you got, We're gonna
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  Speaker 17: We're gonna, well Joe, she's gonna join us our weekly
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  Speaker 17: baseball visit with him.
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  Speaker 4: Looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 17: We'll get into managerial decisions and who and what they
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  Speaker 17: are and what's going on, Like you know, the Mets
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  Speaker 17: fired a manager, should they have fired a manager? We'll
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  Speaker 17: get into that coming up with Joe at at one
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  Speaker 17: twenty Today John lund is weekly visited too, and then
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  Speaker 17: we'll revisit a little bit of mollywat Monday Yesterday boys
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  Speaker 17: were fired up.
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  Speaker 4: How did that go? How do you think it will? Okay?
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  Speaker 17: I thought, let me think Nathan and Chris and it's
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  Speaker 17: a Monday after the MS go two and four for
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  Speaker 17: the week in which the final game that they lost
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  Speaker 17: was Sunday when they led four to one going into
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  Speaker 17: the eighth in George, how do you think it went?
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  Speaker 4: Greg?
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  Speaker 7: George Kirby shirt took care of those problems with managing bullpen.
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  Speaker 7: Just pitch eight innings? Get cool?
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  Speaker 4: That Just give me a damn all we needed.
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  Speaker 17: We just shorter eighth inning, go complete game first one
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  Speaker 17: in twenty twe twenty twenty three, that would have been let.
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  Speaker 7: Him throw a hundred pitches in his arm didn't fall off.
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  Speaker 7: It's amazing he woke up this morning.
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  Speaker 4: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 10: No?
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  Speaker 17: I checked on George as he got to the ballpark, yend,
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  Speaker 17: is his arm still attached?
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  Speaker 7: Norway come on extra time for nor at a time
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  Speaker 7: for Norway.
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  Speaker 17: Special on LEFSA down in the ballard right now if
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  Speaker 17: they hold on.
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  Speaker 4: No Way up to one with a free kick coming
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