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De’Aaron Fox and the Spurs Blew an All-Time Lead | 06.11 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Wave. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A
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  Speaker 1: wave original. My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 1: to believe you are a hater. Guys, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: like if you were a Knicks fan or a Spurs fan,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you went to sleep on Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, how about I spent all week thinking
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  Speaker 1: that game was going to be on Thursday. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know the game was on Wednesday until in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Then he sent me a text and was like, I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for the night.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, What's happening tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Is there a game? Oh, there's a game. Had no idea. That, like,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan and I sat in here trying to figure out, like,
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  Speaker 1: how exactly is it that you go about talking about
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  Speaker 1: this game, right? Because we're not going to do this
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  Speaker 1: and we don't do this in a way where you got, like,
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  Speaker 1: these quick little questions that you ask. I've been watching
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  Speaker 1: the ESPN stuff and, baby, they are all over the place. Like, this...
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  Speaker 1: In radio, this is the easiest show in the world
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  Speaker 1: to produce. You just flip the switch and you start talking, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Turn on the phone lines. You don't need
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  Speaker 1: a plan. You don't know anything. You just go in
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  Speaker 1: here and you do it. In this fashion, we try
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  Speaker 1: to get to the highlights and things like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where to go. I woke up, I talked to
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  Speaker 1: Jason Goff on the phone I want to say before
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  Speaker 1: 9 a.m. his time, maybe actually like well before that,
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  Speaker 1: because I just needed somebody to talk to. And my
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  Speaker 1: friends in the East time zone wasn't picking up the phone.
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  Speaker 1: I like to surprise Ryan with a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I'm going to get out here and say,
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  Speaker 1: I just need people to talk to. I finally got
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  Speaker 1: a chance to talk to the homie Rod. Like I
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  Speaker 1: realized I was doing all this texting with people in
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  Speaker 1: the first half and the second half was so crazy
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  Speaker 1: because at first we weren't texting anymore because there was
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  Speaker 1: nothing to talk about. Then it got to be so chaotic.
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  Speaker 1: As everything went, that nobody had the time to just
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  Speaker 1: be texting with each other? Like, it was, it's, that's
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  Speaker 1: the most stunning ending to a game that I can recall. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the only comebacks in line with this that I can
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  Speaker 1: truly remember are not in basketball. They're in football, and
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  Speaker 1: they're fairly obvious examples that you hear people bring up,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they actually do fit. One of them
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  Speaker 1: is January 3rd, 1993. The Houston Oilers blew a 35
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  Speaker 1: to three lead to the Buffalo Bills in the wildcard
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  Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. The other is the Atlanta Falcons. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: as you should have expected, blowing a 28 to three lead.
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  Speaker 1: To the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you heard about it. OK. Ooh, that'll be a time machine. Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ten years.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be ten years in February 2017. Anyway. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: those games had in common. The Oilers at that time,
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who are too young to remember this,
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  Speaker 1: were running an offense called the run and shoot. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a very important detail in the story of them
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  Speaker 1: blowing that lead because every down they ran with one
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  Speaker 1: running back and four wide receivers, 10 personnel is what
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  Speaker 1: they call it. And you get out to a 35-3 lead,
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  Speaker 1: and even if you call your offense a ball control
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  Speaker 1: offense because it's predicated on short passing, if the short
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  Speaker 1: passing doesn't work, then the clock stops. And somehow in
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  Speaker 1: a game where Buffalo trailed the Oilers 35-3 at some point,
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo had more carries, more rushing attempts than the Oilers did.
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  Speaker 1: Lorenzo White, their Pro Bowl running back who ran for
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  Speaker 1: 1,200 yards that year, only had, I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: it was either 17 or 19 carries. I can't remember which,
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  Speaker 1: but that's where it was. They didn't run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And so you make it easy for them when the
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  Speaker 1: clock stops. What did Kyle Shanahan and his big brain
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  Speaker 1: go out there and do in that Super Bowl? Kept
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  Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Your defense got gassed. You wound up
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  Speaker 1: losing the game. That is what the Spurs did in
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  Speaker 1: the second half. They just went out there. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: the exact numbers. I can't remember now. But after they
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  Speaker 1: were making all those shots in the first half, getting
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  Speaker 1: all those buckets, they kept shooting early in the shot
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  Speaker 1: clock threes in the second half. That just didn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense. Analogous to the football teams and their defenses
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  Speaker 1: getting gassed inexplicably. Mitch Johnson had Victor playing almost all
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  Speaker 1: of that second half. Like this was a 20 something
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  Speaker 1: point game in the fourth quarter. You still have this
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  Speaker 1: guy that we know because of the unique demands that
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  Speaker 1: you put on him relative to his physique and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: His levels of exhaustion, we've known about. This is a thing.
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  Speaker 1: And he had him out there. He played 44 minutes
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  Speaker 1: in a game where you had a giant lead for
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  Speaker 1: the majority of it. It didn't make any sense. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I thought they had him out there
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  Speaker 1: for too many minutes in the first half where they
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  Speaker 1: got Carl Anthony Towns out of there literally in 65
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  Speaker 1: seconds with two fouls. Like... It was malpractice on so
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  Speaker 1: many levels. Coaching malpractice is number one where we go
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  Speaker 1: on this, right? But there's another level of malpractice that
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  Speaker 1: took place in this game and it really comes down
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  Speaker 1: to what kind of league the NBA wants to be
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  Speaker 1: and what it is that they want to do. And
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  Speaker 1: I know you're wondering what it is that I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: And You remember a couple days ago, it was this
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  Speaker 1: football player named Brendan Swordsby. He's supposed to be the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback at Texas Tech. And, you know, he had done
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  Speaker 1: some gambling, and he's going to be able to play.
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  Speaker 1: The NCAA tried to ban him forever, and then the
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  Speaker 1: court said no, and he's going to be able to play.
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  Speaker 1: And then what we saw after that was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people come down on Texas Tech and say that
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech is the ones who's wrong. They shouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: allow him to play at all, you know, given the circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: And you had a whole lot of teams that's out
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  Speaker 1: here saying, you know, well, we're not going to play
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  Speaker 1: against Texas tech. If they go and continue to let
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  Speaker 1: swords be play, we're not going to play against Texas tech. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's how, that's how, that's how they show us.
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  Speaker 1: They serious, right? That's how they show us that they
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  Speaker 1: serious about gambling. And at every turn, um, the NBA
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  Speaker 1: has at least tried to tell us that they serious
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  Speaker 1: about gambling. They had the hiccups, they had Terry Rozier,
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  Speaker 1: they had Jonte Porter, whatever's going on with Chauncey Billups,
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  Speaker 1: Damon Jones. You know what I mean? They got those things. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if the NBA and all the teams really want to
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  Speaker 1: show us how serious they are, there's only one solution.
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  Speaker 1: As long as De'Aaron Fox plays for the Spurs, everybody
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  Speaker 1: else got to say, no, we're not going to play
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  Speaker 1: against them. You're not going to do that. He out
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  Speaker 1: here threatening the integrity.
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  Speaker 2: Of the gang. Crossed a line that can't be crossed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, what other explanation you got for that shit? Right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I made a joke with somebody, a beat writer, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, shit, man, I thought De'Aaron Fox was
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  Speaker 1: from Houston. When he was out there playing, it turned
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  Speaker 1: out he was a lifelong Knicks fan. I ain't never
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  Speaker 1: seen nobody fucking up like that. Like, and by like that,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, what do you mean like that? Whatever like
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  Speaker 1: that you could possibly imagine. He found a way to
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  Speaker 1: dabble in it. Let me go find that one stat
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  Speaker 1: that I just sent somebody about how bad he was
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  Speaker 1: messing up. This is from Caitlin Cooper. Fox had 44
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  Speaker 1: touches in the second half, the most of any spur.
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  Speaker 1: Only five touched the paint. San Antonio scored. 387 points
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  Speaker 1: per chance out of his touches. Just so you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's really bad. He shot two of six with two
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  Speaker 1: turnovers when defended by O.G., Guys, that's really, really, really bad.
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  Speaker 1: Just on its face. That's before we get to this. Look,
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  Speaker 1: Victor missed those free throws late. You can blame it
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  Speaker 1: on fatigue or whatever it is. But no, you got
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  Speaker 1: to lock in and make, you got to make those
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  Speaker 1: free throws. Or at the very least, you got to
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  Speaker 1: make one of them. Putting up an 0 for 2?
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't, that was not allowed in that moment. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: But he made a huge play. with that block that
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  Speaker 1: got the ball back across half court where De'Aaron Fox
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  Speaker 1: had it with like 14 seconds left and the Spurs
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  Speaker 1: have a one point lead. And what I just talked
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  Speaker 1: about before.
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  Speaker 2: One of these paint touches that one of these very
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  Speaker 2: few paint touches.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point. That was, that was the paint touch.
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  Speaker 1: But what I say before about these cats, not respecting
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  Speaker 1: the clock, Like now was the time to dribble it out,
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  Speaker 1: run some clock, make them foul you, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: He went for that layup. And OG Adenobe came and pitched.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Blocked. Okay. Now we're coming back the other way. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, at this point, I'm at my house like,
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  Speaker 1: what is happening? What an amazing game. So now it
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  Speaker 1: comes back the other way. Fox did something that seems smart, right?
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  Speaker 1: Which was they had a foul to give. Filing Alvarado.
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  Speaker 1: Put a pin on that name, by the way. Filing Alvarado.
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  Speaker 1: But Alvarado was in the process of dribbling back across
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  Speaker 1: half court. Darren Fox couldn't do, he did wrong when
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  Speaker 1: he did right. Okay. So now the ball comes in.
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  Speaker 1: They come on the side out of bounds. They get
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  Speaker 1: a ball to Brunson. Victor's guarding Brunson. Fox is kind
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  Speaker 1: of shading over there for whatever reason. Victor's guarding Brunson.
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  Speaker 1: Brunson shoots a 30 footer. Cause that's what happens when
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  Speaker 1: the guy guarding you is eight feet tall. The one
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  Speaker 1: thing we knew about that was Jalen Brunson was never
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  Speaker 1: going to pass that ball to anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Never. And not, not considering going at Victor.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So like the thing with Fox was Fox either
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  Speaker 1: needed to come all the way or like they needed to,
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  Speaker 1: I saw Jason Williams on television this morning talking about
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  Speaker 1: how they didn't do the blitz. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not the guy to ask about that,
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  Speaker 1: but I know this, they either both need to be
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  Speaker 1: committed to Brunson or Victor needed to have him. And
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  Speaker 1: then Fox was going to be on OG. But no,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't work that way. Brunson shoots that shot. Fox
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  Speaker 1: doesn't box out OG. And then OG gets there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at all those videos and all those
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  Speaker 1: pictures of OG going up for that incredible tip in
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  Speaker 1: that they're calling the hand to God, but that name's
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  Speaker 1: already taken. We have a podcast about it next week.
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  Speaker 1: You look at it and it gets back to one
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  Speaker 1: of those San Antonio weaknesses. OG's going up. Carl is there.
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  Speaker 1: Victor's on the perimeter. So who's down there? A bunch
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  Speaker 1: of dudes not big enough for the fight that was there.
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  Speaker 1: But even with that being the case, they'd have been
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  Speaker 1: fine if Fox had just put a little body on
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  Speaker 1: the OG.
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  Speaker 2: Just classic losing the inbounder.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to toot that thing up. But it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't about losing the inbounder because it was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be his man. Yeah. Right? You needed to do something
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  Speaker 1: in that moment. He consistently blew it. in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: He and Mitch Johnson, where they had that one out
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  Speaker 1: of bounds play. I think Castle wound up scoring on
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  Speaker 1: it late. And I was like, what did y'all talk
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  Speaker 1: about in the huddle though? This wasn't no play. There
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  Speaker 1: was no scheme. He is not the, let me cook
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  Speaker 1: something up right fast, and we're going to go out there.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't have that, but there's no way that lead
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  Speaker 1: should have been blown the way it was without the
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  Speaker 1: coach at least getting in and being like, fellas, slow
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  Speaker 1: it down. We don't need these shots as of right now. This,
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  Speaker 1: after one of the most top-to-bottom dominant first halves ever,
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  Speaker 1: I have ever seen in my life. They wrecked the Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the Knicks were completely finished. The Knicks came
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  Speaker 1: out there, energy-wise, dead. Victor was punking them. He made
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson completely lose his shit. He's sitting on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in your head, boy. And he was. They played
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  Speaker 1: such an awful game in the first half. Part of it,
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  Speaker 1: of course, the San Antonio wouldn't miss, right? Like some
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  Speaker 1: of that was outside the control of the Knicks. But
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  Speaker 1: the truth was, as has been the case in all
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  Speaker 1: these games, San Antonio came out early. But then they
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  Speaker 1: just they were relentless about it. Made Mitchell Robinson elbow
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  Speaker 1: Victor in the jaw just because he was mad. That
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  Speaker 1: was it. There was like there was no reason to
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  Speaker 1: believe that the Knicks had to resolve. I guess maybe
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland game, the game won against Cleveland. But this
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  Speaker 1: ain't Cleveland Cavaliers. Like my man, Rob made a great point.
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  Speaker 1: They went from walking over everybody over there, beating about
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  Speaker 1: 30 points, 20 points over there. And these, they came
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  Speaker 1: over here and these games, even the first game, which
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  Speaker 1: was double digit, but these games are different than those.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was obvious that they stepped up to a
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  Speaker 1: different level of competition. And it looked like they were
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  Speaker 1: demoralized by the fact that they heard too much of
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  Speaker 1: that Nixon four in the street. And they got demoralized
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  Speaker 1: by the fact they couldn't. And I'll throw something else
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  Speaker 1: out there. I was talking to an agent about this.
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  Speaker 1: He made a very interesting point, which is that as
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  Speaker 1: an arena, Madison square garden is a place that carries
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  Speaker 1: negative energy. like nervous energy specifically. And you can believe that.
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  Speaker 1: 20,000 Knicks fans?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: After they had lost game three?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they haven't won in there in 50 years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a tension. And you can feel that
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  Speaker 1: through the television.
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  Speaker 2: They're expecting things to go wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And then it kept going. And then it kept going.
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  Speaker 1: And they made, I just can't believe it. I have
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  Speaker 1: sat up, it's been now that we're recording this, The
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  Speaker 1: game's been over. It hasn't even been 12 hours. And
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you're supposed to put in words
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  Speaker 1: what happened. You obviously have to blame San Antonio. This
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  Speaker 1: was a collapse. But the type of collapse to me
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  Speaker 1: was interesting. It did not feel like the moment was
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  Speaker 1: too big for them. It did not feel like they
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  Speaker 1: got nervous. It just felt like they're idiots. Like, they
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  Speaker 1: just started playing idiot ball. Like, am I supposed to
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  Speaker 1: believe that the pressure of a 30-point lead was too much? No,
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  Speaker 1: I think they started, like, fucking around. I think the
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  Speaker 1: thing that happened to the Knicks, one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that happened to the Knicks in the first half, I
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  Speaker 1: think happened to San Antonio in the second half, like,
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  Speaker 1: or these two things are similar, right? They went down
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  Speaker 1: a similar path. In the first half, the Knicks were
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  Speaker 1: clearly caught up in their plan to just knock Victor around.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. They had decided they was going to get
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  Speaker 1: their leg back And they was going to elbow him
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  Speaker 1: and they were going to bump him and grab him
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  Speaker 1: at every turn. That's what they were going to do.
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  Speaker 1: Carl got those two fouls early. And let me stop
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  Speaker 1: and say something very quickly about that. I hate this
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  Speaker 1: part of the replay rules. I completely hate this idea
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  Speaker 1: that they challenged the call on whether or not Victor
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  Speaker 1: committed a foul on the block. And he clearly did
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  Speaker 1: not foul him on that block. I don't feel like
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  Speaker 1: they should be able to go back and then go
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  Speaker 1: be like, well, actually, we looked about three seconds before
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  Speaker 1: that play and Carl hooked him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes no sense. That's not how sports are
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  Speaker 2: supposed to work.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like you should be able to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like the replay should be a carte
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  Speaker 1: blanche to go back and look at everything. I think
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  Speaker 1: that you should have to be very clear. Another thing
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be allowed to do, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they should be allowed to have them goddamn iPads.
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  Speaker 1: Either challenge it or you don't. If the call wasn't
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  Speaker 1: so bad that you were so sure of it at
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  Speaker 1: that time that you're going to do something about it,
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  Speaker 1: then we don't need to go to no goddamn replay.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: It's like your definition of flagrant from yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's why these games be taking so long. It's
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  Speaker 1: because they can get back and then be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, go back a little bit earlier and see
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  Speaker 1: if such and such happened. No, no, no. That ain't
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  Speaker 1: what we, that's not what the trial about. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what we doing right now, man. Fuck out of here.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, they kept trying to assault the Spurs, basically,
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  Speaker 1: and the Spurs were thriving on it. Like, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Once the Knicks gave up on doing that and went
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  Speaker 1: back to actually playing basketball, what do you know? They
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  Speaker 1: did okay. I also felt like that first half was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of, did it feel like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Brunson ball?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did the second half feel like it? Because I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think the second half felt like it until late when
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  Speaker 1: you kind of wanted to be Brunson ball. Like, at
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  Speaker 1: some point, they're going to get that through to him
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: that you are the king of the city. You are
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: our number two guy on the court. And Knicks fans
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: don't like hearing that. One of my buddies, you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: who is not a short man, but not a tall man.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Take that, Becky Hammond. You know, like, that's what Jalen
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Brunson out here doing all the time with his daddy
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: over there making a fool of himself some of the time.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: You know, any of that. Didn't make the shot to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: get it done. OG did. And shout out to you,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Josh Hart. Buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. Josh Hart. He
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: missed that layup. Couldn't figure out if he wanted to dunk,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: if he wanted to lay it up. That was a choke.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: There was no way around it. And he got spared.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: He got 100% spared because it was, I mean, it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to be like the end for him because
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: they would have gone down 2-2, but it had been
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of people.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Almost killed Larry David.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: He did almost kill Larry David. He did almost kill
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Larry David. That was wild, man. I can't imagine what
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it was like to be there. All my friends who
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: got to go. Foxworth got to go. Kravitz was there.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Some of my rich friends. Shit, man. David Dennis got
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a credential to get in there. Good for you.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I'm hating.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm being perfectly honest about this. One friend of the program,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I won't say his name because I don't know if
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he wanted me to say this part, but just to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: let you know, imagine what his night was like. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, how did you get to sleep? Because
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I had trouble. Oh, I got to sleep because I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: be doing that. But anyway, I was like, so how
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: did you get to sleep? He said, I couldn't go
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to sleep until two o'clock in the morning. And this
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: morning I got a colonoscopy. Hey, that's a man that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: had a lot going on.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Had a rough 24 hours.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, over 12 hours. He had a lot. No, no,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it was the colonoscopies after the game.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, but I mean prep.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's right. Apparently the prep's not as bad
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: as it used to be. But yes.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's not exactly a walk in the park either, I imagine.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I did the thing when my colonoscopy time came where
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: they basically, what you do is they send you a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: kit And you put a stool sample in the kit,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and then you mail the kit off, and then they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: let you know if you need the colonoscopy. And I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: did that, and I went to go take it to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the UPS store. And I was assuming that the UPS
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: store opened at 8, because you would think that it
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: would open early, because people send packages and stuff like that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But the UPS store actually didn't open until 9, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I got out there at like 8.45. And let me
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: tell you what feels weird, just standing outside on the corner,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: holding a box of dookie like nobody else knows that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you got a box of dookie but I'm just but
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you do yeah I'm just there standing there holding a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: box of dookie like somebody please get this dookie out
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of my hands and like I kind of wanted to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: warn the dude when I handed it over to him
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: be careful there's dookie in that box but I didn't
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: want to I didn't think bring an attention to the
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: dookie was necessarily.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It's not the first time he's been in that situation.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That's right, but I don't know if he knows that's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Fair. That's all I'm saying. Anyway, back
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to the basketball. Did you see Rich Paul got that podcast?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm aware.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Habershow sent me this video of it. I watched some,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and it was real tricky for Rich because the two
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: guys responsible for this loss primarily De'Aaron Fox. Have you seen...
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: You've seen the super cuts?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: The De'Aaron Fox blooper reels of all his terrible... People
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: cut them things up fast, by the way.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Like, for people to not get paid for that shit,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they was really... They're working. But I guess those people
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: who are doing that, they are getting paid, like, Sally
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Struthers prices. You know? Like, 30 cents a day. You know? Like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: they over there, whatever country they in, cutting up them videos. So, like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: getting paid, in a matter of speaking, I suppose they are.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They're not... Somebody getting paid. I don't know if it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the people that's out there cutting up them videos. You
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? But anyway, Rich Paul's on his
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: podcast and they record it fast because they're on the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: West Coast. So I guess that means you got the luxury.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You can cut that after the game and not everybody
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: already be sleepy. But the two culprits are Mitch Johnson
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and De'Aaron Fox. Both of them. Both of them his guys.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I think that Rich... I think that
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: guys who decide to do this very, this being the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: job that I do, I think very often they are
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: more serious about the job than people will give them
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: credit for. You know what I mean? Like, I think
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that they are, they, like, for example, Charles Barkley really
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: cares about the integrity of the things he says on television, right? Like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that was his thing when you talked to him about
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: when he fell out with Mike. And he was like, hey, man,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's done a good job. And I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: have to tell the truth about whether or not he's
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: done a good job. Like, I think a lot of, like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I think Draymond goes too hard on the people he
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't like, right? But I think Draymond cares about his,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of those guys, Kendrick Perkins,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think, they care about their credibility. And I think
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that Rich Paul cares about his credibility. And that's why
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he can't do this podcast. Because sometimes you get up
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and your guys are the ones that shit to bed.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And you can't do this the way that you want
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to do it under those circumstances. Because it's those guys.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I don't see any other way to look at this. Like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I feel bad because they're like, well, what about the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: good things the Knicks did? I don't remember that many
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: There is a tip they got, you know.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: There's a tip. There's a tip. And by the way,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: not that they didn't do anything. But like, I didn't
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: feel like, boy, the Knicks, like I heard Mike Breen
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: start saying, oh, the Knicks started playing fantastic defense. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: did not feel like the Knicks started playing fantastic defense.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't think they played bad defense, but I didn't
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: feel like all of a sudden now they put the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: clamps on, right? Or this was like when a great
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: team decides we're going to come back, and now they
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: start taking the ball at every turn. The Spurs had
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a stretch where they missed eight straight threes.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Went for Mazur.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't think that had that much to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: do with the Knicks at that point. I think this was,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, truly one of the more epic collapses that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: we've ever seen. And I don't want to take anything
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: away from the Knicks because obviously they were able to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: make shots. Carl got in the game. And by the way,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: another game with an incredible plus minus number from Carl.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: OG Ananobi again. right? Played a fantastic game and obviously
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: not just the tip, but just his presence and he's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: hitting the shots that are there for him to hit
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: like that. They got him for R.J. Barrett.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: What a heist.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: R.J. Barrett, Emmanuel quickly in like a terrible first round pick.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, but also a reminder of how hard it is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to win in the NBA. The Spurs need an OG
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: or an Aaron Gordon or like, you know, somebody of
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a similar ilk. They're not the exact same player, but
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I think you guys see what I'm saying. But one
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: of those costs $ 30 million a year. You know what
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I mean? That's what it takes to get one of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: those guys. But I said put a pin in Alvarado.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It is a damning indictment of Mikael Bridges. that they
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: played Jose Alvarado for all those minutes down the stretch. Like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: part of it was needing a ball handler, but I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: can only take that as Mike Brown believing that Mikael
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Bridges is not up for the moment. And he's the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: guy they've got that's been there. Like, OG didn't play
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs that year for the Raptors. He had
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the appendicitis situation. Mikael Bridges, like, Ryan, did you ever
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: imagine there'd be a world where Jose Alvarado, like, was
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: taking shots and getting big minutes? Because the one thing
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: about Alvarado is Alvarado ain't going to scare.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: But they had those two little bitty guards out there.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And Mikael Bridges.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: When they needed big stops.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: When they needed them. And Alvarado not afraid to go
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to the back. Because Alvarado got more practice playing against
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: somebody like Victor than the rest of the guys. Because
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: everybody liked Victor compared to Alvarado.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: That's been his whole life.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Shit, man. I might as well be Victor next to Alvarado. Right?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: So he knows how to get all those angles and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: get it right there and all that stuff. They doing
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Like, I think you have to give,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I have to give the Knicks credit for this. It's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: not about the plays they made. It's about the fact
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that they look like they were checked out and somehow just,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I want to say kept chopping wood, but they wasn't
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: chopping no wood in the first half. Like nobody can
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: understand how in the world this happened. It's the most
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: inexplicable anything that I could think of. Guess what? We
• 25:50
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  Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday. Ryan, the wildest thing, man, I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: do not think this series is over. I still think
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: San Antonio can win this. San Antonio has had an
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: opportunity to win every game this series.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: They were favored to win the whole thing at half.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and like, if you're a San Antonio fan,
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  Speaker 2: you feel like this series should be 2-2 at the
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  Speaker 2: absolute worst. Like, I mean, you've had two chances with
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  Speaker 2: the ball with 10 seconds, and you had the the
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  Speaker 2: incredibly insane unlucky turnover in game two. And then you had,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you're missing a shot up one to, you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: they're not drilling the clock out. So it just too incredible.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: You said the series is not over.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: So I know that I know that people find The
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: more woo-woo things that Victor does, or some people do,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: they find that to be a bit performative.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: The villain turn has happened. It is happening.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Here's the only thing I'm saying about the woo-woo stuff, though.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: As somebody who knows people who do those things and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: is a touch inclined toward those things myself, I don't
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: really think it's as performative. as other people think it is, right? Like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I think one thing that got people is he told
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Ramona Shelburne that he was walking through the arena barefoot
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: because it was his first time there. Hey, man, I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: know the people that really care, like that being grounded,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you know, that sort of stuff. I don't find that
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: stuff to be performative. I think that he's really into
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: those things. And he went, you know, the stuff with
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the monks we always talk about. I've been doing a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: little reading on Buddhism lately. And the thing that I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: will say that the Buddhists are big about is, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put it in sporting terms, is don't
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: lose the same game twice. Right? Like, it is one
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: thing to suffer. It is one thing to feel bad.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: It is one thing, whatever it is. But if you
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: suffer because you suffered, that's when things, that's the snowball.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? So, like, you can't lose,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: let that game beat you again. And that's what Victor
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: seems to have a hold of.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Like I did not see from him postgame somebody that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: felt beaten by this, felt defeated or whatever it is.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: But the truth is, when it was time to rally
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the troops in the second half, you look like a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: front runner because you weren't able to like you did
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: not do the thing that needed to be done. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: don't think he understood. And maybe from now on, they'll
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: never have this problem again. Like that Tom Brady type shit.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Like you look we up by three touchdowns and now
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: we go down to two touchdowns. Hey, what happened to three? Like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to scream at you the same way.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It's Nick Saban screaming at his offensive lineman up 28 points.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to do it, man. Like, that's what
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the stakes were, especially in a game with three-point shots.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: That's what you have to do. I want to see
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: what the Knicks come back with. Like, this is their chance.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: If I'm the Knicks, I don't want to bring this
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: back to Madison Square Garden because that nervousness thing that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I was talking about before, that's really going to be
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: there if you come back for game six. It's really,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: that's not, that is not going to, one, that's not
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: going to be a comforting environment. And two, the Spurs
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: have shown us that they are not, they were not
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: intimidated by the loudest and most raucous that arena was
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: ever going to be. And honestly, I don't feel like
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: they were intimidated by it in the second half. So
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: if I had to guess, have this game on Saturday,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I think this will go to a game six. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: just don't think San Antonio is out of it. And
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to be fair to San Antonio, I think we've put
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: them out of this a couple times already. We had
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: them out of it. In that Oklahoma City series, I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: think we had them out of it down 2-0 in
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: this series. My buddy Vinny, he is the seer of
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: all things. He's the one to hit you and be like, yeah,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: during the comeback against Cleveland for the Knicks, yep, they're
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: going to win this one. He did it last night
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: during that game. Or was it during that game? Nope,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: this is what it's going to be. He is that guy.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: He sees it. I don't think that he sees the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Spurs pulling this off. But I'm not sure, I'm not,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, he's better at this than me for a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: number of reasons, right? He's been watching so many of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: these games, he knows how I play. But I think
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: San Antonio is still in this. I don't think that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: this one is going to be a wrap. I feel
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: like we deserve for this to keep going. I don't
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: want this to end. This is, even if this is
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a five-game series, it has been a great series, if
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it is that. Like, Hagler-Hearns was only four rounds, right?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I feel like it's been...
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's been that sort of game. And
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Spurs... And you tell me if
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you see where I'm coming from on this one, Ryan.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like everything the Spurs did in Game 3
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: can be replicated for this game.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I think that if they go back to doing the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: things they did in Game 3, it'll be fine.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I mean... if Wimby still has, you know, the three
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: games left, like he did essentially from the second half
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: of game two to the first half of game four,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: like if he can stretch together two games together like that,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the Spurs are certainly alive. And then you get into
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: game seven in your building.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And if Jalen Brunson forgets about the other guys,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: which can happen, And to be fair to him, a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: lot of game without Carl and without him in the game,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I could see why he'd be like, man, getting the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: ball to the rest of these guys. What are you
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: talking about?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Like without Carl in the game, you can't. And it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: clear that they would try to run it through Carl.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And then you can't run it through Carl anymore. And
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: so find it. I'll do. I guess I have to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: You know, so I guess you wind up. getting caught
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and going back to that place. Stephon Castle, another maddening case,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: by the way, in that game. He didn't play poorly,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: but interestingly, he only took like seven shots.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you called that. He's going to be a mystery
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: for a long, long time for those Spurs fans.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he only took seven shots. Vassell, they say he
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: missed shots, but I feel like I didn't see none
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of them. I felt like every time I saw him
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: put one up. Dylan Harper, late, didn't put up any shots.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: And I think part of that, again, is they were
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: coming down the floor and they were rushing in the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: ways they were. Now, Ryan, let me ask you this,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: because I think this is the other topic. The officiating
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: was going to be way high on the list if
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the Knicks lost that game. They won that game. I
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: don't know how bad, if I thought it was as
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: bad as people made it out to be. I think
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of those goal tens were bad, but that
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: also took the Knicks out the game in a way
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that grownups are not supposed to allow themselves to be
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: taken out of the game.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: It has become part of our discussion, these sports, through
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the For You tab, is the more ref talk starts,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: that snowballs into, because you can always find something wrong
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: with the officiating. And so once that enters the conversation cycle,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: it is almost impossible for it to come back and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: break contain once it gets there.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what is never going to be
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a trending topic. Excellent officiating.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Right? Like, it's never going to be, wow, those calls
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: were so good.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Everyone did such a great job.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It's never going to happen. And now, yo, we used
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to go from joking about games being fixed. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. People, like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: really think these games are fixed now.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, definitely as people, you know, are more conspiratorial,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: you know, putting, you know, jillian crawford on these games
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: or whoever like like the jokes about putting the extender
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: on the game yes doesn't it like you know doesn't
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: feel as uh wholesome as it used.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: To yeah yeah yeah no like these are these are
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the these are the things that we've got here like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: this is what it is and so i'd be curious
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to know how that goes in game five because you
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: talk about the extender i mean we know he's going
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to be there right right He being uh scott foster.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah scott foster joy crawford's the old one.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah scott foster retired now yeah yeah scott foster
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: will be there to extend that and then in game
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: six i guess is that's what tony brothers is going
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to show up or is.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: It going to be what they did earlier in these
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: series and they had them out there together like you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: know them pictures that people put on the internet when
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it'd be like two good looking women with each other
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And they hug it and somebody be like, ooh, the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: mac and cheese and the yams are touching.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's more your algorithm than mine.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You should come over here.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on me. That's my mistake.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott Foster and Tony Brothers, that is the opposite. Like,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that is like some unholy version of the Omar brother
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Muzon like pulling up on you type of situation. Like,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that's what that is. Wouldn't shock me. We're going to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: see one or both of them. In game five and one,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: between game five and game six, we will see both.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: We will see. That's all to say it is about
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Tony Brothers right fast. No matter where Tony Brothers was
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: in this world, ain't no way in the world that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I would see Tony Brothers and think that he made
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: his living running.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It really is amazing the people who refereed these games
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: doing high leverage games. physical activity for three hours at
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: a time and you look at them and they look
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: like dudes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And having to make decisions.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: And having to cut. It's not just running. It's not
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a marathon. They got to be agile. They got to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: change direction.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: And rotations and all this stuff. You got it from here.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: You got it from there.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised these guys don't have an epidemic of tearing
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: their Achilles like the players do.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: No, it's a lot going on, man. It's a lot.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: But we're going to see. We're going to learn a
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: lot about a lot of people. in game five. I
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: think the other thing, too, that Victor is going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: have to pick up out of this game was in
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: that second half, I think they just thought that they
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: had the luxury to be out there styling. And why
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: are you shooting all these threes?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: There was just no reason for them to not figure
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: out ways to run the clock and get closer to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the basket. And they blew it. They blew the chance
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: to really, really, really take control, and set up the pivotal,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: pivotal Game 5. Instead, it is now, for the Spurs,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a do or die. No, no. It's a must win.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Must win.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Game 5. Must win Game 5. That is where we are.
• 41:58
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