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Feminist Movie Friday: Romy and Michele's High School Reunion · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to Steffan
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  Speaker 1: ever told your production iHeart Radio. And today, for our
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  Speaker 1: first feminist movie, Friday of twenty twenty six, we're doing
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  Speaker 1: a We're bringing out some bangers. We are bringing out
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  Speaker 1: some bangers. This has been requested by multiple people. It's
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  Speaker 1: been on our list for a while. Today we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about Romey and Michelle's high school reunion. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm continuing my education of movies. I somehow missed
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  Speaker 1: that this was before your time. I would have been
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, I was around No.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean like you wouldn't have watched this type
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  Speaker 2: of movie. Yeah at the age you were at when
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  Speaker 2: it was released, is what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I mean a lot of the ones we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about like this, I think are that kind of
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  Speaker 1: thing where I feel like I missed. I missed the boat.
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  Speaker 2: We will be coming to Center Stage. Back to Center Stage.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about that one, which, by the way, the
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  Speaker 2: actress just popped back up recently because she was in
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  Speaker 2: a show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and everybody's like, wait, that's girl from Center Stage.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, coming back to.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So I this was my first time watching this movie,
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  Speaker 1: but you had seen it before, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And all of the feelings of cringe. This is when
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  Speaker 2: I talk about movies that embarrassed me that I can't watch.
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  Speaker 1: This is it.
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  Speaker 2: This is the epitome of like, oh my god, because
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  Speaker 2: not because necessarily like it is. It is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of like what's up, Oh no, but like embarrassing moments
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  Speaker 2: that I know is gonna happen, and I feel bad
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  Speaker 2: for them, even though you know they are triumphant in
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  Speaker 2: the end, it's still embarrassing and I cringe and I
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  Speaker 2: can't stand it and I have to walk away.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, it's one of those movies I see. It's
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  Speaker 1: funny to me because it was not at all what
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  Speaker 1: I was expecting. Like I got the general plot. I
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  Speaker 1: was pretty like, I'm sure they're going back to their reunion.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to lie about it about what they've gotten
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  Speaker 1: up to since then. But there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff in there I was not expecting. Is very It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a strange movie.
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  Speaker 2: It is the classic nineties when we had all those
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  Speaker 2: high school movies that went awry, Like there were so
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  Speaker 2: many of these movies that existed. We've talked about a few,
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  Speaker 2: including like twelve Things I Hate about You, which was
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  Speaker 2: a little later, but like in this kind of realm
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  Speaker 2: of things.
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  Speaker 1: Well, twelve things I Hate about you, you're adding two more,
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  Speaker 1: I think, but I'd just added some things.
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  Speaker 2: So things I Hate about you is one, and then
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  Speaker 2: I think about Empire was a huge one.
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  Speaker 1: Empire Records.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of those as well, Like I think
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  Speaker 2: that's after high school though in college.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, moving on, Well, we're gonna get into it. But
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  Speaker 1: I was like, so we've got kind of a fever
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  Speaker 1: dream that happens. We've got a strange dance sequence.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say Mina Servino wasn't actually a ballet dancer.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Well, we've passed the window for spoilers,
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  Speaker 1: but I suppose we have. If you have not seen this,
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  Speaker 1: we have really teased some things that are going to
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  Speaker 1: happen in our plot summary. Okay, So Romy and Michelle's
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  Speaker 1: High School Reunion is a nineteen ninety seven comedy directed
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  Speaker 1: by David Murkin and written by Robin Schiff with inspiration
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  Speaker 1: from her play Ladies Room. It starred yes Mira Sorvino
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  Speaker 1: as Romy and Lisa Kudro as Michelle and also stars
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  Speaker 1: Janina Garuffalo and Alan Cumming. And when it came out
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty successful, like monetarily and it was reviewed well,
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  Speaker 1: but it has become a cult classic. I think it
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  Speaker 1: played at the kind of local art theater near me recently. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's got a fan base, a following, and I
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  Speaker 1: can see why. I can see why. Also, Samantha and
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  Speaker 1: I were discussing before the soundcheck is this very good? Really?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it opens up with I'm just a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Come on? Yeah, oh so good? So good? All right,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna run through the plot here. The
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  Speaker 1: film is presented in a non linear fashion, meaning we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of flashbacks. We are first introduced to
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  Speaker 1: Romy and Michelle, the best friends from Tucson, Arizona. They
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  Speaker 1: were best friends in high school and they are now
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  Speaker 1: living together in La Romy runs into a classmate named
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  Speaker 1: Heather played by Janine Garruffalo, who reminds her that their
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  Speaker 1: ten year reunion has come up, and from there we
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  Speaker 1: see flashbacks of their time at school where they were
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  Speaker 1: close but bullied. They were not the A group, as
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  Speaker 1: they call it, but instead we're picked on by the
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  Speaker 1: A group. Romy had a crush on Billy, who was
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  Speaker 1: the boyfriend of top mean girl Christy, while a nerd
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  Speaker 1: named Sandy was played by Alan Cumming had a crush
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  Speaker 1: on Michelle, and Heather had a crush on Sandy, so
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  Speaker 1: yes got it mm hm. Anyway, at a dance, Romy
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  Speaker 1: asked Billy to dance with her and he agreed as
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  Speaker 1: a prank and then never showed up, so Romy and
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  Speaker 1: Michelle danced together. They then come up with a plan
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  Speaker 1: flashback over present day to show up at their reunion
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  Speaker 1: with invented personas to make themselves look better. They kind
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  Speaker 1: of have this realization that their lives aren't super impressive
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  Speaker 1: when they're filling out a questionnaire, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go to my high school reunion, but there
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  Speaker 1: definitely was no questionnaire involved me either.
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  Speaker 2: I've been through several installations of reunions I was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to go to and I was like, no, never, no.
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  Speaker 2: But I definitely didn't get anything but an email.
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  Speaker 1: I think if I went to high school, I would
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  Speaker 1: never go, even if I was successful, because the being
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  Speaker 1: successful part is that you don't go. Yeah. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I did not get a questionnaire. I think ours was
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook. Facebook invite this. So this plan of theirs
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  Speaker 1: to look quote successful involves finding boyfriends, losing weight, and
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  Speaker 1: that Michelle needs to find a job because she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have one currently. However, they realized that this is an
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  Speaker 1: impossible task in two weeks to accomplish, so they decide
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  Speaker 1: to pretend to be successful business women. Romy pretends to
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  Speaker 1: have sex with an employee of the auto shop that
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  Speaker 1: she works at to get access to a nice car,
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  Speaker 1: and Michelle makes them some nice clothes. As you might imagine,
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  Speaker 1: things do not go smoothly. They have to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what business they are in, so they come up with
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  Speaker 1: an idea that they invented post its, believing that no
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  Speaker 1: one will be able to see through that lie. Like
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  Speaker 1: everybody'll be like, oh, I know what that is, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who invented it, So you can get
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  Speaker 1: away with that lie. Through their creation of their fake lives,
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  Speaker 1: they confront some of their issues with each other and
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  Speaker 1: they get into a very big argument and decide to
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  Speaker 1: split up in Tucson to not be with each other there.
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  Speaker 1: Once they get there, Michelle has a dream where both
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  Speaker 1: her and Romy claim to have invented post its. It's
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  Speaker 1: not clear that it's a dream. At first, though, I
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  Speaker 1: have to say I was very confused. Yeah, okay, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's just okay. A Romy in this dream got with
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  Speaker 1: Billy and she in the dream, Michelle was interested in Sandy.
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  Speaker 1: She got hit by a car randomly, and Sandy is
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  Speaker 1: now successful in the dream. The dream continues with Romy
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  Speaker 1: and Michelle cut off from each other for decades. Michelle
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  Speaker 1: is trying to estavage their relationship, and then Romy dies,
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  Speaker 1: giving her the finger of note. They are both very
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  Speaker 1: successful in this dream. They get the guy, they win
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  Speaker 1: the award, like you know, I don't know do they
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  Speaker 1: give out awards at the high school reunions, but like
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  Speaker 1: you're the best, they win those awards.
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  Speaker 2: According to all the movies, they give at least one
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  Speaker 2: award most successful or most changed so thus far. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you did you watch the reunion for the Liz
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  Speaker 2: LEMAGEU thirty Rock. They gave her awards so they could
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  Speaker 2: carry her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember that. I know I watched it, That's
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  Speaker 1: what I remember. Listeners right in Is this a thing? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we've never been to an Orange? So are you telling
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  Speaker 1: us never been? Tell us all about it? Sounds like
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  Speaker 1: there's some interesting dynamics that happen there. But anyway, they
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  Speaker 1: win the award. They drive away in nice cars, but
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  Speaker 1: they don't have each other. So even though it's painted
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  Speaker 1: as this very successful thing and the dream, it's still
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  Speaker 1: sad because they don't have their friendship. And then we
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  Speaker 1: cut to the real, non dream reunion. The A Group
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  Speaker 1: are pregnant, Billy and Christy already have kids, two kids,
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  Speaker 1: third one on the way. Michelle heads inside because Romy
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  Speaker 1: left her sleeping in the car. Romy tells her posted
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  Speaker 1: story to the A Group, but their classmate Heather corrects
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  Speaker 1: her with the real name of the inventor and says,
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  Speaker 1: you definitely did not invent the post it, so if
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  Speaker 1: she is caught in the lie. Embarrassed, Romy flees and
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  Speaker 1: she and Michelle make up, agreeing to be themselves. They
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  Speaker 1: switch out of their business outfits that they were wearing
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  Speaker 1: into their usual very colorful clothing. One of the A Group,
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  Speaker 1: who has fallen out the rest of the group and
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  Speaker 1: now works with Vogue, likes their outfits and basically it's
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  Speaker 1: telling everybody like, nah, these outfits are cool. And then
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  Speaker 1: Sandy shoves up in a helicopter, which is such a trope,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you show up at the high school union
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  Speaker 1: in a helicopter. That's a statement you're making, and asks
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  Speaker 1: Michelle to dance with him, and she agrees if Romy
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  Speaker 1: can dance with them too, and this is where the
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  Speaker 1: dance scene comes in. Oh, Time after Time is playing.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite something to see. Yeah, classic. Then Billy shows
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  Speaker 1: up and comes on to Romy, but she stands him up. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, yeah, why don't you go wait in
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  Speaker 1: the room and I'll be there in five minutes and
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  Speaker 1: then never goes, so heading back at him for what
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  Speaker 1: he did to her all those years ago. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: he is with Christy and like has kids yet. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: years later, Romy and Michelle have opened up a fashion
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  Speaker 1: boutique in La supported by Sandy h and they seem
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  Speaker 1: to be doing really well. They seem to be doing
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  Speaker 1: really well. Heather shows up. Heather's there and it's trying
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  Speaker 1: on a very bright, brightly colored dress when she had
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  Speaker 1: kind of a golf look going previously. But yeah, all
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  Speaker 1: as well, friendship healed. Heck, yeah, yes, it was quite
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  Speaker 1: an interesting film, which I guess before we get into
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  Speaker 1: the themes we are going to be talking about, like
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  Speaker 1: weight and weight loss, and because it was pretty consistent
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  Speaker 1: that nineties weight loss. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. So
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  Speaker 1: I did enjoy it. I thought it was funny. It
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  Speaker 1: was not. It was bizarre. It was a lot of it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like what a high schooler who isn't
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  Speaker 2: from LA would think.
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  Speaker 1: LA was yeah, and I couldn't. I was like, are
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  Speaker 1: we making fun of these accents? What are we doing
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  Speaker 1: with these accents?
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  Speaker 2: So there's been a thing recently, and it's not just
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  Speaker 2: Miras or Vino, which I think he's always had an
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  Speaker 2: interesting way of talking. I can't remember because I just remember.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't my favorite actress. I love and respect who
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  Speaker 2: she's become in the fight that she's had to have
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  Speaker 2: in the industry, So I'm going to put that there.
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  Speaker 2: But her acting was never my company, so it was
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  Speaker 2: never something on like I must watch her Jenny Garoffalo
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  Speaker 2: every day. I loved everything she did, including the truth
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  Speaker 2: about cast and dogs with her and Uma Thurman. If
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  Speaker 2: you've never seen it, you probably never have. And I
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  Speaker 2: loved it because I loved dark haired certainly not beautiful
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  Speaker 2: girls being main characters, and weirdly, Jenny Garoffalo ended up
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  Speaker 2: being what like kind of the poster girl in that era,
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  Speaker 2: one of the mini But I love loved Janninya Garofflo
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  Speaker 2: that she was wonderful, so I would watch her and anything.
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  Speaker 2: But with these access there's a thing that happens in Appalaysia.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that happen in the South,
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  Speaker 2: especially again Appalachian areas, where when they want to sound proper,
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  Speaker 2: the O becomes oh, like there's this like tightening of
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  Speaker 2: the lips to sound proper, and it becomes oh, And
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of what mir Sorvino does. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and it may I think it may be a sexist
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  Speaker 2: reason from way back when, and like women are not
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  Speaker 2: supposed to have big mouths or wide mouths, so therefore
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  Speaker 2: you made everything small and saying oh makes you look
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  Speaker 2: goofy I guess because your mouth is too large or
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  Speaker 2: I think fish mouth was one of the you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, like the fishlans, so they would do
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  Speaker 2: with them like pursing their lips instead of actually saying it.
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  Speaker 2: And I wonder if that's what she was doing, does
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  Speaker 2: sound proper?
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting because I thought they were just trying to
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  Speaker 1: do the kind of like Valley Girl, the peral is
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  Speaker 1: that's that is not I thought they were trying to
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  Speaker 1: do something. Whatever California Act.
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  Speaker 2: Did make like they were putting on it looked like
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  Speaker 2: they were being.
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  Speaker 1: Caricaturist for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know because like Lisa koudrou to
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  Speaker 2: me played her character from Friends, mm hmmm, perfectly except
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  Speaker 2: stylish according to but like it was an interesting look.
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  Speaker 2: But the first thing I thought when I heard Mareservino's
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  Speaker 2: accent was because I've been seeing as I'm watching like
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  Speaker 2: things and i see people from the South doing this
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  Speaker 2: that I'm like, why is this? I think because my parents,
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  Speaker 2: my mother does this that oh thing that I'm very like.
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  Speaker 1: Confused.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, that's a whole side note that I've been
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  Speaker 2: dealing with, like.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you talking like that? It is interesting? It
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  Speaker 1: is interesting. Well, we do have a lot of side
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  Speaker 1: notes like that, because there was some stuff that just
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  Speaker 1: really stuck out to me. But I think one of
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  Speaker 1: the big themes, obviously the biggest one is friendship, but
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna save that one for the end. But one
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  Speaker 1: of the big ones I thought was high school dynamics. Again,
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  Speaker 1: as someone who's never been to a high school reunion.
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  Speaker 1: I still even younger had that kind of idea of
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  Speaker 1: you have to show up really successful, you gotta have
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  Speaker 1: your story straight of like what you've been up to,
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and then you know, am I
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  Speaker 1: gonna reconnect with friends.
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  Speaker 2: Or not the love of your life from high school?
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  Speaker 1: No? Yeah? But yeah yeah yeah yeah, or at least
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  Speaker 1: make him jealous, right right, make him regret or her Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah. Because we did get to see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that, I feel like we saw it more in
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  Speaker 1: the flashbacks. It was apparent in the when they do
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  Speaker 1: go to the reunion. I thought it was interesting kind
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  Speaker 1: of the scene with Janine Garuffalo and Toby, another character
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  Speaker 1: named Toby and Janine Gruffalo's character Heather was like, here
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  Speaker 1: all this time, I didn't realize that a group was
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  Speaker 1: hating on you. No one was like no one. Essentially,
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  Speaker 1: I was hating on no one and they were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you were, you were there is some And Toby comes
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  Speaker 1: up and she's like, you don't tell me to golf.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which, by the way, there's so many actors in
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  Speaker 2: this movie that later become like either big or iconic
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  Speaker 2: in some way, including Toby, who has become kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a queer icon and later on in different shows
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  Speaker 2: and really kind of gotten bigger and who she is.
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  Speaker 2: And then also justin the Row isn't there, And you
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  Speaker 2: know he become a whole thing, which also made me connect.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Lisa.
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  Speaker 2: Coudrow and he then the later Days dinner for inistan
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  Speaker 2: in okay, what else? Yeah, And then you have them
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  Speaker 2: in there. You have the woman who plays So who
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  Speaker 2: ended up being the Vogue editor. She has has become
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  Speaker 2: iconic as the parent trap mom. Oh that's her, that's her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the actress Kristen Bauer's in there, who
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  Speaker 2: plays Pam and trewe Blood like she became kind of
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  Speaker 2: a she became a cheer icon later on in shows
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  Speaker 2: like that. Like you have some people in there that
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  Speaker 2: were like, wait, that's so and so Ellan Cumming of course,
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  Speaker 2: like he is an iconic in himself and playing this role.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, all the other stars. But you have some
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  Speaker 2: bigger names than you would have assumed in this small
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  Speaker 2: in this in this not small but in this nineties movies,
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  Speaker 2: and I really do appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of people that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've taken me on a whole journey. But there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that I was looking at. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I recognize you, but I'm not sure from where.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, But there are a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: that I've felt that way about. So back to our
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  Speaker 1: high school dynamics conversation, Clearly there are clicks. You've got
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  Speaker 1: the the a group. Who is this group of four girls,
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  Speaker 1: like mean girls that kind of control the social hierarchy,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, and then this whole idea of trying to
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  Speaker 1: fit in when you're happy. So one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: parts of this movie is at the end when after
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  Speaker 1: Romey has been kind of embarrassed and humiliated and Michelle
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  Speaker 1: is like, you know, until you told me, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know that we were having a bad time. I was
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  Speaker 1: having a blast like that because I was with you,
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  Speaker 1: I was having a great time. And so I really
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  Speaker 1: liked that they when you see them together in these flashbacks,
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  Speaker 1: like they were, you know, thick as thieves. They were
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  Speaker 1: like best friends. And it was only until they got
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  Speaker 1: that idea in their head of like seeking approval from
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  Speaker 1: the wrong people of what success means that it kind
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  Speaker 1: of diminished their relationship at least in Romy's mind. But
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I really liked that line of like, you know, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: was having a blast. I didn't know, right, that was
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the problem. Yeah, we were having great fun and they
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like stuck up for each other. And it was interesting
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to hear like Heather talk about them from her perspective
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, that's not what I saw at all.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: So seeing those different dynamics and those different cliques and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. There was also a big like focus
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: on women having kids' success, at least with the A group,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: because they're all pregnant and Romi asked Christy like, what
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: do you do and she's like, I'm having my third kid,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's the end all be all of what
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: success is. Which, again, if that's what you want's totally cool,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: But I think it was framed in a way that
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: was the reason she did it, is because for women,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that's how she viewed the only path towards success, right
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: whereas Michelle and Romi don't have kids, don't have boyfriends.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I really didn't enjoy the scenes of Romy trying to
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: get them boyfriends and doing a terrible job at it,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: just terrible mm hmm. So there's all of that all
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of that going and then having the kind of like
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the crushes. I'm very intrigued in what Sandy's relationship is
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: with Michelle and or romy after this, right, I never says.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, aren't they together? What happened here?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And I can't stress enough. When they start this dance,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Michelle and Romey are holding hands and he takes both
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of their hands and they do like a whole kind
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of mating dance. So I'm not sure, but having that
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: crush and coming back and still having that crush, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: then yes for unions, Romy and Michelle have been together
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this whole time, so to them, there's not like that
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: huge jump of I haven't seen this person in ten
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: years or whatever, but they do have that kind of
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: realization of we want to change in two weeks, which
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people can relate to. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: think like any dance, like.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: A web diet is huge for a reason.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly, So I feel like that's really relatable
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of the Oh, I have this event coming up, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I've gotta put on some real clothes and I've gotta yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: lose weight. But I also kind of like this could
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: be just for me but a lot of people wrote
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in about requesting this movie, so probably not. But I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: like how they were so happy with like they weren't
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: really dating and they weren't really like they were just
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: kind of happy with the life that they had. It
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: was nice. Yeah, you can just have a happy life
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: with your friends and your life. I'm sure though some
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: people think Romey Michelle are more than friends, but you
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: know you, I'm sure some people do for some of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: my random asides. The clothes. The clothes are very nineties,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: They're very bright.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Look some of us coming back have come back and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: keeps coming back.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I'm very confused. I know it makes me sad,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: like I shouldn't have gotten rid of my I have
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: this one shirt that would be very popular right now.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was just a mess. It was an
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: absolute mess, but I loved it. I loved it. Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and they often did like complimentary colors like red and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: yellow or pink and blue. I noticed that Michelle was
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: in the first scene. I think she was wearing like cherries,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: very which we all know sexualized symbol. But yeah, the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: very color, very colorful clothing is what I'll say carries
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: are sexual. Yeah, you pop your cherry. Oh lord, I don't.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Know if I carries to me are very childhood in
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the like carrying in a basket and like just being
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: like cute, Okay, this is wilfar.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'd pay attention. Moving on maybe future episode.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe like I I am so bad, like after you
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: would like say it. Then I can imagine it be like, oh, okay,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, but I don't initially put it together
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to be like I don't know, you got dirty mind Andie, no.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: There's no way that is what people say I get anyway.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It is one of the things they got in a
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: fight about was that Michelle, who was first seen wearing
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the cherry earrings cherry colors, is the one that she
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: says she's cuter than Romy, She's much cuter, and then
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Romy says, essentially she's much smarter. I think, like, you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: could never invent the post it, but I could. People
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: will believe that I could. So that's sort of where
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: their argument comes from. And then when they make up,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it's very sweet where they're like, oh, you totally could
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: have been minted the posted Oh you're totally cute, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that. Yeah. Another thing, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I've got to mention it. You know, I love it
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: old tech knowledge. Yes.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: The minute that a phone flip phone came out, I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: was like, Andy's gonna have a field day.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, And I feel like wasn't the line. The line
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: was very funny. It was like, oh my god, it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a flip phone. And then later when Romy is talking
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to the a group and trying to repress them, she says,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, if anyone needs to make a call,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I've got a phone. It's the old flip phone. So
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: here's the thing.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: In ninety seven ninety five, we had the car phones,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and people who had those phones legitimately were like the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: cool kids. And I would say, or the spoiled kids.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Actually I saw them as the spoiled kids. It's the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: same kids that got cars on their sixteenth birthday. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I was like that definitely wasn't me. But like I
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: had a good friend of mine she had a car
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: phone and we would use it to call people every
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: now and again, and then we'd get yelled at because.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Here's a fee. Oh my gosh.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: There, Yes, it's like a collector, like minutes you have
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: minutes that it like adds up, like he needs long
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: distance call.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Think about that, Annie, I will, I'm kind of shook.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I had no, I didn't
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: have a cell phone until my sophomore year of college. Wow,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I am old, thank you very much. Moving on. But
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: like in this movie Zach from Saved by the Bell
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: having his giant portable phone, Yeah, it was a thing
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: we knew he was rich, California.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Kid, California kid. That did make me laugh though, that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that really cracked me up. This whole flip phone the story.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she's love this part. I think
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I immediately opened up the outline and wrote it down.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Had to, had to, Okay. So another theme, I would
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: say self perception, which is what we've kind of been
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: talking about. But like they were happy with the life
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that they were leading until it became they were putting
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: on how other people perceived them of like oh, you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: don't have a job, or you don't have boyfriends, or
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you don't have a kid, whatever it is. And so
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the resolution at the end is they decide to be
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: themselves and they change out of their business clothes and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: they change into their colorful clothes and they're like together,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: hand in hand, almost walking back in and kind of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: dressing down Christie, the leader of the a group of like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you know, you're mean, back off, right, that's a problem. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And so having that moment of you know, I was happy.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't need all of this external stuff to make
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: me doubt what I was doing or my friendship or
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: anything like that. One of the other things that stood
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: out to me is I think this was played comedically
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in a way that didn't offend me, but I could
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: see how it could. But they're very ditzy characters. They're
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: both very they're blonde, ditsy characters where they're kind of
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they miss a lot of cues. Like I said, I'm
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: pretty sure it was just kind of like a commie thing.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't really mad about it, but I could see
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: how some people might be. And you know, in the end,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they did get a successful business and they did figure
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: out what makes them happy. So but especially like kind
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of that California aspect, I was wondering going back to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the accent and everything. But this brings us to the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: weight loss. So this was the nineties. I do think
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: not infrequently about the when friends was really popular in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the nineties. There was an advertisement that had the three
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: women characters, including Lisa Kutro that said three anarexic chicks,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and that was the ad. So it was very at
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the time, pretty normalized to have this kind of conversation
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: about women wings bodies because they keep in the movie
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they must bring it up like ten to fifteen times,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: need to lose weight. They're at the chubby chubby, chubby. Yeah, y,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you're so thin, They're so thin, this is yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I remember watching this thinking if they have ordered the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: losers In high school, like I remember specifically watching movies
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: like this where I would cringe because I was overweight.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I was I've always been a thick girl. I will
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: never be skinny. The only time I've ever been kind
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: of skinny was on well beatrin and it started doing
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: things to my heart, and I was using it as
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: a depressive medication, not anything else. And so like, I
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: just know when you see again. We've talked about this conversation,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and we've talked about the nineties specifically with like magazines
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and that era, the skinny.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Girl era, that ideal that people like Lisa.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Kudro and Mira Sarvino were not cool, even though they
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: were stick figures with like bigger boobs and like all
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: these things and then having and then they're talking about
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: needing to lose weight, which whether or not, that's just
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: an image thing. So it just immediately was that conversation
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: can't eat a chip, can't do any of these things,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: and then trying to normalize the Tendae diet where you
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: again when she starts like, I haven't eat anything, but
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the joke was that she was eating that free things
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: but they were all full of sugar. Type of conversation
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: that I remember that it left vivid things for my
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: own thing. I was like, oh god, they that's what
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: they feel like, and they think they're ugly. I have
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: to do these things to fit into that that moment,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: because it was also at a time where they wouldn't
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: admit what they had to do to get that stick
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: any They would be like, no, I'm just naturally like this,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: or I just work out. I'm just very disciplined, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you're like, you mean, you starve yourself, you have a chef,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you're miserable, and you're probably taking medications to try to
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: take this and even possibly surgery, which is all in well,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You're doing that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I hate that for you because I know you've got
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: to be miserable and it's unhealthy for you, and you
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: just need to be honest because these uh, these types
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of conversations are really like it was. It was such
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a harmful time. The amount of like eating disorders that
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: popped up and normalize was one of the worst.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And then it's we've come back full circle, which makes
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: me really really sad with these new medications. But like
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: that was that time where you saw this and the
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: most skinny, beautiful people were being called ugly or not
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the best type or whatever, and you're like, what even
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the women who are pregnant, they were still thin as hell.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like I'm pretty sure they like bring
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: it up to run Romy's like, no, I have lost
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: five pounds, Like you shouldn't. This shouldn't be like such
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a big.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Where ma'am, should you cut your hair like it?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Didn't she? Somebody brought up Mono. I was like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Mono to lose weight.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: That was a big joke. The two thousands. I don't
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: know why, early early two thousands.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, this whole thing it was very damaging.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I know I've told this story before. But one time
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I used to watch when I was in middle school,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I would watch Access Hollywood and they had a model
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: on there once who I didn't even know, but she
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: she was saying like, I can eat whatever I want,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It's fine. And so I took that advice as, Oh,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I can eat whatever I want and it's fine. Obviously
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that's not the case, and it was not. It was
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: damaging for me. But in this movie they do that thing,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the similar thing where they're eating like junk food, a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: lot of junk food, at least Michelle is, and you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: know she's still super skinny, but it's painted as if like, oh,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: she needs to stop eating the jump food and lose weight,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Whereas if I feel like most people, if you were
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: eating that jump you would have gained the weight. It's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: just like misleading, right, especially when you're young, when you
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: don't understand like right genetics or celebrities or anything like that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong, some people could just
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: can everything, but most of those people were all athletes
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: that were constantly.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Going yes, yes, yes.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: There's some who also were trying to gain weight and couldn't,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and that was a whole different problem.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Eating thing on the nineties era is really really alarming.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I will say I did appreciate that they didn't do
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: makeup on Mira Servena. They packed her, don't get me wrong,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: to look chubby in the high school flashback, but at
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: least they didn't do the face makeup, because that always like,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that's just so insulting.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and she wasn't.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: So overweight, which was both a bad and a good
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: thing that they weren't trying to like again, caricaturist make
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: her look like fat Albert cartoonish level. But at the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: same time, I'm like.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That's not that's not that fat.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Why don't Yeah, I don't understand what was epping.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Let her eat a hamburger, Yeah, let her eat her
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: damn hamburger. And they looked exactly like the hamburgers from school.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: By the way. I looked at that, like you pretty
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: much weird.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Looking patty with little bubbles on it that I didn't understand.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Don't question me, don't question it. I'm gonna eat it. Yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I mean that. I feel like a lot of times
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: when we do movies from around this era, this always
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: comes up. It was a really huge thing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: The ninety's eighties really up buddy in it. I guess
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: all of let's just be all of society in general.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: But the less clothes that was being worn, the more
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: judgment it seemed, which is like, let us be for hot,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: we don't want to wear sleeves.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let us be in general. I also have to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: mention just because, as I said earlier, I do think
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: some people would put Romey and Michelle together. There was
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a line where Michelle was like, you want to have sex?
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I loved that it wasn't really like homophobic, Oh my god,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: like she does say I don't like, I don't think whatever.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: But then she's like, you know what that's making at
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: thirty just like such like a h okay, maybe who knows,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: may change.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Yeah. I liked that. It was just kind
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of a hey, all right. But that does bring us
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to the biggest theme, the final theme friendship. Yes, so
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that is pretty much the heart of the movie is
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: their friendship. You get to see their memories together, you
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: get to see some of their the grudges that they
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: might have, and then the making up, and they make
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: up really quick. I mean, obviously it's an hour and
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes. But I liked how. I liked how Michelle,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Like Michelle was like, I don't want to waste time.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I had this dream that you died. Actually, let's just
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: let's just make up. I don't want to I don't
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: want to be without you anymore. But it also reminded
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: me of one of my best friends in high school,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: middle school, elementary school, still one of my best friends.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: We were kind of like this wherein uh, people used
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to joke we were Annie and Katie, like the names are
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: together because we were always together, and so we were
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: always doing things together. And like, I love how they were.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: So they were just like when Romy got stood up,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Michelle's like, I will dance with you. And then at
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the end, Michelle gets asked to dance and she's like
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: only if Romy can come. Like they were that type
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of friendship where and people were asking Michelle when they
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: weren't together, like where's Romy. Like they had that association
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: of this is your person? Where's your person? Even ten
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: years later, And so I really liked that. I really
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: liked that, and I did enjoy their strange dance sequence
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: that I couldn't figure out, but I did like it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of questions. It's like interpretation okay,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: interpretive dance, Okay, I got it. Okay, Well yeah, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: mean I did. I'm surprised, you know, I like a
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: good surprise. Yeah.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: The one thing I was disappointed in in that era
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: is it like they had so many like trending exercising things,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: but no typo that kickboxing, but no typo that made
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: me sad.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I like, how that's what made you sad? And then
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: itself was like, but where's the tibo?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: We need one good typo scene.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: That's true. Listeners, if you know a movie that has
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a good typo scene, please let us know. It's probably
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: coming back.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Who knows, No, I think that again. This is one
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: of those movies that made me go, oh no, no,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do this silly thing and so embarrassed already.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: But we love a good friendship and the fact that
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: they love each other no matter what, like and the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: that they would try to rather be with each other
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: than a man.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: It was rare for those times. Yeah, it was, and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: it was very overt. It was kind of comically overt
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: how much they were like, no, I'm going to.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Join us, but it's going to be all of us.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's us, and you're lucky to be in our orbit,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: correct and give us your money and a ride on
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: your helicopter. It was the epitome of it. Why would
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: men be here? Right? Yeah, I will say.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: The other thing that they're me off was Alan cummings accent.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, he has to be American
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: for this.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then in the dream, in Michelle's dream,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: he looks different. It's different plastic surgery. No, it's in
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: with makeup, with prosthetics. I was like, who is that?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Do you know? He says that he bought himself a
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: new face.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: But I wasn't sure if it was like still the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: actor or a different actor. Oh wow, okay, yeah those makeup.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I thought Job ninety seven's us like a costume people.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: He is in another movie, but he's the bad guy
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: where he plays uh that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I also want you to watch a Circle of Friends
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: because it also has a chubby brunette, not as beautiful
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: girl Minnie Driver, who's like beautiful, don't get me wrong,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: but in this movie. But he's in that one too,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: so I think because I knew him from that movie
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: where he has a very strong Irish accent that I
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: was like, wait, what's happening, where's he from?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Who I love Alan coming? By the way. Yeah, I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: think the first time I was introduced to him, oh
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: with Spike Kids. But then X two X Men.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Oh Oh he's a creepy guy and So of Friends
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: real creepy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've touched this bullet a lot of times,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I guess if you'd call it that, But a lot
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: of people are like, my first association with this actor
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: is a creepy role they played, and I'm like, oh,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I've only seen them in like when they're playing a
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: good guy.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Again, love him in general, but yeah, he plays the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: perfect slimmy dude.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: So I just called them first.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Actually he was in the Circle Friends as well.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, anyway, add it to the.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: List, Oh you have, because Circle of Friends used to
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: be my favorite movie. However, this movie coming back to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: because I know I jump around, I'm not gonna say
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's in my top ten. It never
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: really was, but it definitely has a cult classic.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Love like people adore these movies. It was fun. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I wasn't expecting a lot of it,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and I had some good laugh out loud moments. So
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: oh when I'll take I.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Think you need to learn the dance you and Katie
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: bet and people do that. Oh no, I think I've
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: seen it, but I think you and Katie need to
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: learn this dance.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Oh I get the blue that's what you know? That's
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a friendship fight is so who gets what? But she
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: loves pick? Okay, anyway, listeners, if any of you have
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: done the dance, oh yeah, if you learned it, let
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: us know videos send it to videos that would be amazing. Yes,
• 44:28
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• 44:30
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