Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #471 I'll Do Better Tomorrow
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now, our children are on to here for such a
- 0:11Speaker 2: short time, and I can spend my time collecting rocks,
- 0:15Speaker 2: or I can find little flex of time and gold
- 0:19Speaker 2: in our relationship.
- 0:20Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum
- 0:23Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Hello, this is doctor Justin Coulson, the founder of Happy
- 0:26Speaker 3: Families dot com dot AU.
- 0:28Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but I cannot believe.
- 0:29Speaker 3: How fast term one is disappearing. We're at the end
- 0:32Speaker 3: of another week and we've only got one more week
- 0:36Speaker 3: in Queensland at least until school holidays arrive two weeks
- 0:39Speaker 3: for a whole lot of other states. The days are
- 0:43Speaker 3: flying by. Hopefully you've got some exciting school holiday plans,
- 0:47Speaker 3: Kylie and I. Well, we might actually be homelest Kylie.
- 0:50Speaker 3: We still haven't found a place to live.
- 0:53Speaker 4: It's getting kinde of tense, isn't it.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a laughing matter, honey.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I'm actually I don't know what else to do except laugh.
- 1:03Speaker 3: So basically, if you've missed it somehow, because you're securely accommodated,
- 1:08Speaker 3: we're selling our house and moving to the coast, rentals
- 1:11Speaker 3: are at minus zero point three percent, like you just
- 1:14Speaker 3: can't get a rental anywhere, And we've been looking for
- 1:17Speaker 3: a house, but we just don't seem to be able
- 1:19Speaker 3: to find one, and we kind of got to sell
- 1:21Speaker 3: us first, which adds a level of complication to the
- 1:24Speaker 3: whole scenario. And our airbnb timing runs out on the
- 1:27Speaker 3: first day of the school holidays because well, obviously they
- 1:29Speaker 3: had bookings and we didn't expect that we'd be in
- 1:31Speaker 3: an airbnb for this long. So we're having some new
- 1:36Speaker 3: experiences and finding life increasing in complexity.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Did you say adventures? That's exactly right, speaking of adventures.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Today, for every Friday podcast episode, we have this conversation
- 1:48Speaker 3: called I'll Do Better Tomorrow. It's about re evaluating our parenting,
- 1:51Speaker 3: having a look at what we've been doing over the
- 1:53Speaker 3: last week.
- 1:54Speaker 4: What have we done right, what have we done wrong?
- 1:55Speaker 4: How can we do it better?
- 1:56Speaker 3: What should we do tomorrow to make our family thrive,
- 1:59Speaker 3: flurry and functions. So well, now, Kylie, I'm going to
- 2:02Speaker 3: get you to go first because i want to ask
- 2:04Speaker 3: you a question and I'm hoping that you can help
- 2:06Speaker 3: me out here, as I've observed you over the last
- 2:10Speaker 3: week or so, and obviously I'm in a different location
- 2:13Speaker 3: to you. I'm still at our house keeping it in
- 2:15Speaker 3: order for the open houses and to make sure that
- 2:17Speaker 3: everything's right for that, while you're on the coast with
- 2:19Speaker 3: the kids. What you've done this week seems different to
- 2:24Speaker 3: what you normally do with the kids. I've had more
- 2:26Speaker 3: conversations with them and heard more joy and delight in
- 2:30Speaker 3: their voices, and when we facetimed, I've seen more smiles
- 2:33Speaker 3: on their faces and in their eyes than I've seen
- 2:36Speaker 3: for a long time. Even though there's the uncertainty and
- 2:39Speaker 3: the lack of closure around what we're doing, our kids
- 2:42Speaker 3: seem this last week to be different in all the
- 2:46Speaker 3: good ways.
- 2:47Speaker 4: And I'm just wondering why that is.
- 2:50Speaker 3: And whether that might form a part of your I'd
- 2:51Speaker 3: do better tomorrow, and how that can inform and help
- 2:53Speaker 3: any parent who's going, yeah, I need that because we're
- 2:55Speaker 3: not there right now.
- 2:57Speaker 2: It's funny you should ask, because it was actually your
- 3:00Speaker 2: I'll do better tomorrow last week that really struck a
- 3:03Speaker 2: chord with me. You shared some feelings that you were
- 3:06Speaker 2: having around our nineteen year old daughter, who is kind
- 3:10Speaker 2: of struggling with all of the things that a nineteen
- 3:13Speaker 2: year old would usually struggle with as she tries to
- 3:15Speaker 2: work out who she is and where she wants to
- 3:17Speaker 2: be in the world and what her contribution to the
- 3:19Speaker 2: world will be, and just that I guess lack of
- 3:23Speaker 2: connection that's there right now. And for me, it actually
- 3:27Speaker 2: reminded me of an analogy that you share about the
- 3:31Speaker 2: swimming pool and how our children play in the swimming
- 3:34Speaker 2: pool and we actually create the boundary around the swimming pool.
- 3:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the one.
- 3:39Speaker 3: I got that from doctor Lisa Demore in her book.
- 3:44Speaker 3: I think it was under pressure now I can't remember.
- 3:45Speaker 3: It might have been untangled. I get them confused. And
- 3:48Speaker 3: she basically says, as parents wear the pool edge, but
- 3:51Speaker 3: our kids are out there in the water, they're swimming around,
- 3:53Speaker 3: and every now and aga when they're having a hard time,
- 3:54Speaker 3: they come back and rest on the pool edge. But
- 3:56Speaker 3: then they push off again, and it hurts us when
- 3:58Speaker 3: they do that, because but the pool wouldn't exist without
- 4:00Speaker 3: the edge.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. But when our children actually become adults,
- 4:05Speaker 2: it's almost like they jump out of the pool and
- 4:08Speaker 2: they jump into the ocean, and we can no longer
- 4:10Speaker 2: kind of put those same parameters around them, and every
- 4:15Speaker 2: now and again I kind of forget that she still
- 4:18Speaker 2: needs us, and I kind of just let her float,
- 4:20Speaker 2: you know, out there without checking in. And so even
- 4:26Speaker 2: though she's not here with me, I've actually been really
- 4:29Speaker 2: intentional this week in checking in on all of the
- 4:32Speaker 2: kids and just having those quiet moments with them. So,
- 4:38Speaker 2: since we've been here at the beach, we have been
- 4:40Speaker 2: going for swims, but the weather hasn't been really nice,
- 4:43Speaker 2: and so we've actually stopped going to the beach for
- 4:45Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, and so over the last
- 4:48Speaker 2: few days of this week, I've actually taken them one
- 4:51Speaker 2: by one and just gone for a walk and we've
- 4:53Speaker 2: walked for up to an hour as we've just chatted
- 4:57Speaker 2: about anything and everything in their life right now, and
- 5:00Speaker 2: obviously everything's changed for them. And what I've found in
- 5:04Speaker 2: doing that is not only have they really loved the
- 5:08Speaker 2: one on one time, but it's actually turned my heart
- 5:11Speaker 2: towards them. Because of what's going on in our lives,
- 5:14Speaker 2: it's really easy to just kind of get caught up
- 5:17Speaker 2: in just the comings and goings and the routine and
- 5:20Speaker 2: the structure and all of the worry and concern about
- 5:23Speaker 2: whether our house will sell, and what needs to be
- 5:25Speaker 2: done to make sure that's a smooth process, and looking
- 5:29Speaker 2: for a house, and so I'm looking at open houses,
- 5:31Speaker 2: you know, every other day and just kind of caught
- 5:33Speaker 2: up in my own little headspace. But this week I've
- 5:36Speaker 2: really really tried to slow that process down and to
- 5:40Speaker 2: remember that I've got four little people in my world
- 5:44Speaker 2: right now who trying to make sense of everything that's
- 5:47Speaker 2: changing for them as well. And since I've done that,
- 5:50Speaker 2: You're right, I've felt it. The kids are more settled,
- 5:54Speaker 2: and I feel more connected as a parent and more
- 5:57Speaker 2: desirous to do everything I can to keep this amazing, beautiful,
- 6:03Speaker 2: calm feeling in our home Touchwood. We've had it for
- 6:07Speaker 2: three or four days now, when I don't want it
- 6:09Speaker 2: to end.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great insight as well to take my
- 6:12Speaker 3: message slow things down, be in the moment with your kids,
- 6:15Speaker 3: and treasure them for who.
- 6:17Speaker 4: They are and what they're about.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you shared that right after break
- 6:21Speaker 3: My older better tomorrow a bit of a tough one
- 6:25Speaker 3: because I'm not really spending in time with the kids
- 6:27Speaker 3: at all based on our current circumstances. I want to
- 6:31Speaker 3: share with you what's working for me as I try
- 6:35Speaker 3: to juggle that challenge.
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- 6:53Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast, the podcast for the time
- 6:55Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers. Now, I'm wondering, justin
- 6:59Speaker 2: what are your insights from this week.
- 7:00Speaker 4: So I'll do better tomorrow?
- 7:02Speaker 3: Is about what we've done right or what we've done
- 7:03Speaker 3: wrong with the kids and how it can be better
- 7:06Speaker 3: next time. I've really loved the phone calls, the FaceTime calls,
- 7:10Speaker 3: the opportunity to connect with the kids that we kind
- 7:13Speaker 3: of we've been so caught up in so much stuff
- 7:15Speaker 3: that we haven't been great on that. Over the last
- 7:17Speaker 3: few months, we've done it somewhat consistently, but not all
- 7:20Speaker 3: the time, whereas this past week it's been a lot
- 7:22Speaker 3: more and it's also had a great energy about it.
- 7:24Speaker 4: I've loved that, But as.
- 7:26Speaker 3: I've reflected on how much I miss being with the family,
- 7:29Speaker 3: how hard it is. I mean, you and I have
- 7:31Speaker 3: daily conversations about how difficult this is and how much
- 7:34Speaker 3: we wish that we were not in the current situation
- 7:37Speaker 3: wherein even though we've created it for ourselves. And I
- 7:40Speaker 3: was thinking about that podcast conversation that we've just had,
- 7:43Speaker 3: I think it was on Tuesday, about how being a
- 7:45Speaker 3: parent doesn't make you happy, and even though the research
- 7:48Speaker 3: says that, I've got to be honest, I love being
- 7:52Speaker 3: a parent. And it reminded me of a story that
- 7:54Speaker 3: I wrote about in my very first book, What Your
- 7:56Speaker 3: Child Needs from You, And I thought, for my I'll
- 7:58Speaker 3: do better tomorrow, since I'm not really spending a whole
- 8:01Speaker 3: lot of time with you and the kids, that sharing
- 8:03Speaker 3: this story might be useful for any parent who's going
- 8:06Speaker 3: through any of the kinds of things that we're talking about.
- 8:09Speaker 4: So I'm going to read this. See is that Okay?
- 8:11Speaker 2: I was just thinking, you've really rummaged through the archives
- 8:14Speaker 2: to find this one.
- 8:15Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite stories of all time,
- 8:17Speaker 3: and it's about goldflex It says in the mid eighteen
- 8:20Speaker 3: hundreds there were significant gold rushes around the world. A
- 8:23Speaker 3: well known story tells of a young man who, like
- 8:25Speaker 3: thousands of others, was certain that if he went to
- 8:28Speaker 3: the gold fields, he would find gold nuggets too big
- 8:30Speaker 3: to carry and be set for life. The young man
- 8:33Speaker 3: sold everything he had in order to make the journey,
- 8:35Speaker 3: and when he arrived at the goldfields, he set to work.
- 8:37Speaker 3: He dipped his pan into the river, washed the water
- 8:39Speaker 3: over the sediments, and over time became more and more disappointed.
- 8:43Speaker 3: He was persistent, but at no point did he find
- 8:46Speaker 3: a gold nugget, not even the smallest pebble. As the
- 8:49Speaker 3: days were on, he accumulated a massive pile of rocks
- 8:52Speaker 3: beside him. He would dip his pan, wash the sand
- 8:54Speaker 3: and pebbles with water, remove the rocks, place them beside
- 8:57Speaker 3: where he sat, and dip his pan back into the
- 9:00Speaker 3: river again. He was sure that if he persisted, he
- 9:03Speaker 3: would find the one nugget he needed to make the
- 9:05Speaker 3: venture worthwhile. Things eventually became desperate for the young man.
- 9:09Speaker 3: He was out of money and still had no gold nuggets.
- 9:12Speaker 3: He was approached by an old or wealthy prospector, who
- 9:14Speaker 3: commented on the size of the pile of rocks the
- 9:16Speaker 3: young man had accumulated. Dejectedly, the young man confirmed his
- 9:20Speaker 3: fears to the prospector. I've been here for months looking
- 9:23Speaker 3: for gold. But there isn't any I'm going home. The
- 9:26Speaker 3: old prospector disagreed. I'd be so sure. You just have
- 9:30Speaker 3: to know where to find it. He then took two
- 9:32Speaker 3: rocks from the young man's pile and smashed them together.
- 9:35Speaker 3: One rock split and gold flex reflected the sunlight sparkling
- 9:39Speaker 3: in the older man's hand. But the inexperienced young man
- 9:42Speaker 3: had higher expectations. He wanted perfection. He wanted nuggets, not
- 9:47Speaker 3: tiny flecks. He said that he wanted nuggets like the
- 9:49Speaker 3: ones hanging from the pouch on the old man's belt.
- 9:53Speaker 3: The old man lifted his bulging pouch from his belt
- 9:55Speaker 3: and held it out to the young man, who took it,
- 9:57Speaker 3: opened it up and peered inside, and he was shocked
- 10:00Speaker 3: by what he saw. There was not one single nugget. Instead,
- 10:05Speaker 3: the pouch was full of thousands of those tiny gold flecks.
- 10:09Speaker 3: The wise old prospector told the young man that he
- 10:11Speaker 3: was looking for the wrong thing, explaining, you're chasing gold
- 10:15Speaker 3: nuggets so hard that you're missing out on all the
- 10:17Speaker 3: enormous wealth that these precious gold flecks can bring you.
- 10:20Speaker 3: It's the slow, methodical, daily grind of accumulating these little
- 10:24Speaker 3: gold flecks that has brought me the wealth I enjoyed today,
- 10:28Speaker 3: and so, Kylie, I love that story in relation to
- 10:31Speaker 3: the conversation that we've just had with your experience this week,
- 10:35Speaker 3: and also the conversation we had on Tuesday about kids
- 10:37Speaker 3: and happiness, because as parents, we often look for happiness
- 10:40Speaker 3: and family life in the same way that that young
- 10:42Speaker 3: merchant was looking for gold nuggets. We expect that family
- 10:46Speaker 3: life's going to be full of these big, joyful moments
- 10:49Speaker 3: of happiness rolling down the river so that we can
- 10:51Speaker 3: just scoop them out of the water.
- 10:54Speaker 4: We want those.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Nuggets that make our life rich. We want to feel good,
- 10:58Speaker 3: we want the magazine family Life Life.
- 11:00Speaker 2: But yeah, as you were sharing it this time, just
- 11:03Speaker 2: kind of the monotonous day to day grind that he
- 11:07Speaker 2: went through as he skimmed the water, and you know,
- 11:10Speaker 2: siebed for looking for gold and just collected these rocks,
- 11:14Speaker 2: and it just it created such a mental picture of
- 11:17Speaker 2: me of what family life can be like. And like
- 11:20Speaker 2: I shared in my story at the beginning, I've kind
- 11:22Speaker 2: of feel like I was just in that daily grind
- 11:26Speaker 2: of collecting a whole heap of rocks through that gone
- 11:29Speaker 2: through the motions, and it's amazing. What a difference the
- 11:34Speaker 2: week has looked like this week as a result of
- 11:37Speaker 2: kind of looking outside the box a little bit, changing
- 11:40Speaker 2: things up, you know, having that prospect to come along
- 11:43Speaker 2: and cracking the rock open was kind of like listening
- 11:46Speaker 2: to you share your story last week, and it just
- 11:48Speaker 2: made me realize that our children are only here for
- 11:51Speaker 2: such a short time, and I can spend my time
- 11:53Speaker 2: collecting rocks, or I can find little flex of time
- 11:58Speaker 2: and gold in our relationship that will nurture and strengthen
- 12:02Speaker 2: and sustain each of us in our daily lives.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Thank you so much for saying that. I love the
- 12:09Speaker 3: way you said that it's beautiful. I think that family
- 12:12Speaker 3: life is dirty and rocky and messy and mundane and
- 12:17Speaker 3: banal and wet, and sometimes we just feel like we're
- 12:24Speaker 3: accumulating that pile of rocks. But if we look closely,
- 12:27Speaker 3: we will find thousands upon thousands of flex of gold
- 12:30Speaker 3: in every day and in every moment.
- 12:32Speaker 4: So that's my I'll do better tomorrow for today.
- 12:37Speaker 2: What's coming up on the podcast next week?
- 12:38Speaker 3: Well, next week we're going to talk about what to
- 12:40Speaker 3: do with toddler tantrums. I've recently had an ABC interview
- 12:43Speaker 3: with an announcer from ABC Newcastle who is a grandpa
- 12:49Speaker 3: and the grandkids is just driving in bonkers and the
- 12:52Speaker 3: old school way of dealing with dealing with little kids
- 12:55Speaker 3: isn't working so well for him, and his kids are
- 12:59Speaker 3: getting a bit cranky about his way of interfering. They think, yeah,
- 13:02Speaker 3: hang on, you don't know how to parent, stay out
- 13:04Speaker 3: of it, even though he's raised kids himself. So we're
- 13:06Speaker 3: going to talk about dealing with toddler tandrum's and reflect
- 13:09Speaker 3: on that conversation. Plus, a new study has come out
- 13:12Speaker 3: that shows that kids who talk back grow up to
- 13:15Speaker 3: be better adults.
- 13:17Speaker 2: I'm very interested in this conversation.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll dive into that next week. Thanks so much
- 13:21Speaker 3: for joining us this week on the Happy Families Podcast.
- 13:23Speaker 3: We hope that it makes your family happier. We appreciate
- 13:25Speaker 3: so much the work of our producer and executive producer
- 13:28Speaker 3: Justin Rulan and Craig Bruce. And if you'd like morefol
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- 13:36Speaker 3: parent of boys aged eight through to eighteen, we would
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