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- 0:07Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders. I am Tom Pelissera. We
- 0:12Speaker 1: are just seventy three short days away from kickoff in
- 0:16Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four NFL season. And don't worry about
- 0:19Speaker 1: me sitting here all over at the top of the show,
- 0:21Speaker 1: like Jalen hurts, I'm gonna have a lot of help.
- 0:24Speaker 1: That's because five time Pro Bowl right tackle Lane Johnson
- 0:27Speaker 1: joining me and Brian Baldinger on the show tonight. What's
- 0:30Speaker 1: ahead for the Eagles? Are they looking forward to that
- 0:32Speaker 1: Brazil trip in week one? We'll get into a lot
- 0:34Speaker 1: of that with Lane Johnson during this show. We'll also
- 0:36Speaker 1: talk about the arms race, literally arms in the AFC South,
- 0:40Speaker 1: Can anybody topple? CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans Al's
- 0:44Speaker 1: talk dark horse MVP candidates Kyler murrayby in that mix,
- 0:47Speaker 1: Jared got tons to get into. But let's start with
- 0:50Speaker 1: some big news from early this morning out of Green Bay,
- 0:54Speaker 1: where the Packers Board of directors unanimously approved Ed Policy
- 0:59Speaker 1: as the French his new chairman, president, and CEO, a
- 1:03Speaker 1: move that effectively makes Policy the deve facto owner of
- 1:06Speaker 1: the NFL's only community owned franchise that will start in
- 1:10Speaker 1: July of twenty twenty five, when Mark Murphy, who has
- 1:12Speaker 1: held that post since way back in two thousand and eight,
- 1:15Speaker 1: set the cycle off as he hits his seventieth birthday.
- 1:17Speaker 1: They ran a thorough search, but ed Policy, the son
- 1:20Speaker 1: of longtime forty nine Ers president, Carbon Policy is the
- 1:24Speaker 1: man an in house hire in Green Bay. As we
- 1:27Speaker 1: welcome in more of our friends right here Stacy Dales.
- 1:30Speaker 1: That covers the Packers quite a bit, as well as
- 1:32Speaker 1: our front office analyst, Mark Ross.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Mark.
- 1:34Speaker 1: I was thinking this morning going back to my Green
- 1:37Speaker 1: Bay Prescauzette days, and that was at a time of
- 1:39Speaker 1: the transition from not just Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers, but
- 1:43Speaker 1: it was Bob Harlan to Mark Murphy. Mark Murphy has
- 1:47Speaker 1: held that post ever since. Not just have the Packers
- 1:50Speaker 1: had three quarterbacks effectively for three decades, they've had three
- 1:54Speaker 1: team presidents overseeing the entire operation.
- 1:57Speaker 3: So I posed this question to you.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Mark, Brett Faha won a Super Bowl, Aaron Rodgers won
- 2:01Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, So I would argue maybe they could
- 2:03Speaker 1: have won more than one Super Bowl. Jordan Love and
- 2:05Speaker 1: the Packers, how set up are they in your mind
- 2:08Speaker 1: to get that Super Bowl?
- 2:10Speaker 4: And maybe another Well, you talked about the stability, Tom,
- 2:14Speaker 4: and you forgot about the people making the decisions and
- 2:17Speaker 4: the stability there. Ron Wolf goes to Ted Thompson, goes
- 2:21Speaker 4: to Brian Gudakis.
- 2:22Speaker 2: They all Kevin in that green Bay tree.
- 2:25Speaker 4: That stability in the front office with the decision makers
- 2:29Speaker 4: allows for stable decision making with quarterbacks. Ron Wolf traded
- 2:33Speaker 4: for Far Ted Thompson drafted Aaron Rodgers, and now Goody
- 2:36Speaker 4: got his guy a Jordan Love. And he got Jordan Love,
- 2:39Speaker 4: but he also surrounded him with a ton of young
- 2:43Speaker 4: talent who.
- 2:44Speaker 2: He gets to grow with together.
- 2:46Speaker 4: And you get to make those decisions as a GM
- 2:48Speaker 4: because you have the stability to say, you know what,
- 2:51Speaker 4: this is not a knee jerk season here or there. Yes,
- 2:54Speaker 4: we're going to allow you to draft these young guys
- 2:57Speaker 4: and grow together. And so far it has been worked
- 3:00Speaker 4: out tremendously in one season with Jordan Love and all
- 3:03Speaker 4: his young receivers and tight ends and offensive linemen. So
- 3:06Speaker 4: Green Bay really has been the standard bearer Stacey of.
- 3:10Speaker 2: You gotta have the quarterback, got.
- 3:13Speaker 4: To have the stability on the back end, and just
- 3:15Speaker 4: in one season, I know you'll talk about it might
- 3:17Speaker 4: be even better in a year two for Jordan ro
- 3:19Speaker 4: Love and.
- 3:20Speaker 5: Grow absolutely, Mark, and congratulations to Ed. And you know,
- 3:25Speaker 5: it's just an organization that seems to make smart decisions
- 3:29Speaker 5: all the time, right, And that is the case when
- 3:31Speaker 5: it comes to quarterbacks. And I've done reports on comparing
- 3:34Speaker 5: you know, Brett Farve's first season to Aaron Rodgers first
- 3:37Speaker 5: season to Jordan Love's first season, and it got markedly
- 3:40Speaker 5: better last year. And when you talk about year one
- 3:43Speaker 5: to two, this actually is his fifth season in Green Bay.
- 3:46Speaker 5: So listen, Mark and Tom. He knows this offense, but
- 3:49Speaker 5: I would describe it as the old cliche night and
- 3:53Speaker 5: day from last offseason to this offseason. And Jordan Love
- 3:56Speaker 5: has openly talked about how much better a feel he has.
- 4:00Speaker 5: They often picked pretty good head coaches too, with his
- 4:03Speaker 5: head coach and play caller Matt Lafleur specifically, how much
- 4:08Speaker 5: better a feeling he has for what Matt Lafleur is seeing,
- 4:11Speaker 5: what he's calling based upon what he's seeing, and guys,
- 4:15Speaker 5: that absolutely permeates this entire young roster. It was the
- 4:18Speaker 5: youngest offense in the National Football League last season, and
- 4:22Speaker 5: it will be one of the youngest subsequently.
- 4:24Speaker 6: This season.
- 4:25Speaker 5: Last year was the first time, as Jordan Love has
- 4:28Speaker 5: talked about that a lot of his young players, a
- 4:31Speaker 5: couple of those guys, big time rookies. We're hearing play
- 4:33Speaker 5: calls for the first time in the NFL. And it's
- 4:37Speaker 5: at a point now where he has acknowledged he can
- 4:39Speaker 5: actually change the call at the line of scrimmage in
- 4:42Speaker 5: his second full time season as starter. So things look
- 4:46Speaker 5: really exciting for the Green Bay Packers offensively with just
- 4:50Speaker 5: another young offense that I think guys, they could have
- 4:54Speaker 5: some superstars in the making on that receiver corp.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Mark.
- 4:58Speaker 1: This is also a franchise. It's not the afraid to
- 5:00Speaker 1: pay the quarterbacks a lot of money. They had the
- 5:02Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback for a long time a decade or
- 5:05Speaker 1: so ago with Aaron Rodgers. The difference was back then
- 5:08Speaker 1: that was at twenty two million dollars per year. Now
- 5:10Speaker 1: the top of that mark is one hundred and fifty
- 5:12Speaker 1: percent beyond it at fifty five a year. Jordan Love
- 5:14Speaker 1: did the band aid deal last year. He's on the
- 5:17Speaker 1: books for like eleven million this season. He's not going
- 5:19Speaker 1: to play for that. In your mind, from a front
- 5:21Speaker 1: office perspective, what is the magic number to make sure
- 5:24Speaker 1: you're locking in Jordan Love for the long haul here.
- 5:28Speaker 4: Well, you know they've been working on this, of course
- 5:30Speaker 4: behind the scenes. We don't see it publicly, but of
- 5:32Speaker 4: course they're working on it and working out different ways.
- 5:34Speaker 4: And it's always that final number. You talk about, Tom
- 5:37Speaker 4: and who what was the last one? What's fifty five
- 5:39Speaker 4: year for Trevor Lawrence. Now that's kind of the number.
- 5:41Speaker 2: We'll we get fifty six per year, we'll get up
- 5:43Speaker 2: to sixty.
- 5:44Speaker 3: It just all.
- 5:45Speaker 4: Depends on how they're going to structure the deal. But
- 5:48Speaker 4: whatever that number ends up being, are they going to
- 5:50Speaker 4: get it in there before Tua's deal gets in We'll.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Talk about to it later.
- 5:54Speaker 4: Now does that throw off the number for what the
- 5:56Speaker 4: next big number is to the next in line? Interesting
- 6:00Speaker 4: thing for me, we talked about this last week. Who's
- 6:02Speaker 4: ever the next one up is the best contract? But
- 6:05Speaker 4: for me, Jordan Love also has a chance to be
- 6:09Speaker 4: a top five quarterback as well. So not only is
- 6:11Speaker 4: he just the next one up, I think he has
- 6:13Speaker 4: a chance to be that's one up as well.
- 6:16Speaker 2: When it's all said done, Tom and Stacy, guys, and.
- 6:21Speaker 5: I would just say, didn't Jordan Love just get engaged
- 6:24Speaker 5: to his partner and now fiance. I think things are
- 6:28Speaker 5: going really well for Jordan Love. Oh guess what nice
- 6:32Speaker 5: job control room. We have a shot of it right here. Congratulation,
- 6:36Speaker 5: congratulations to this couple, because listen, if you're getting engaged
- 6:41Speaker 5: in the offseason in a place like that, Tom and
- 6:43Speaker 5: Mark and you are due for a big contract extension
- 6:48Speaker 5: after the way we've seen this young man evolve in
- 6:51Speaker 5: this organization sitting behind Aaron Rodgers all these years. Good
- 6:55Speaker 5: things are in store for him. He deserves it. And shoot,
- 6:58Speaker 5: they might have a pretty good defense in Green Bay
- 7:01Speaker 5: this year too.
- 7:03Speaker 1: We start off the segment talking about would Jordan Love
- 7:05Speaker 1: get that ring? And maybe more? We don't actually know that,
- 7:07Speaker 1: but we know who does have a ring, his new fiance,
- 7:10Speaker 1: Ronica Stone. Congratulations to the spy couple. What a great
- 7:13Speaker 1: soap opera pairing of names. By the way, Jordan Love
- 7:16Speaker 1: and Ronica Stone. That's some days of our lives stuff.
- 7:19Speaker 1: I love it. Elsewhere in the NFC North, hey, we
- 7:22Speaker 1: got some drama, some soap opera type stuff around this
- 7:26Speaker 1: division in terms of the quarterbacks who are coming in.
- 7:29Speaker 1: That of course begins, but the number one overall draft
- 7:32Speaker 1: pick Caleb Williams, who now is one of just five
- 7:34Speaker 1: first round picks who have not signed their rookie deals.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Four of them happened to be in the same division.
- 7:41Speaker 1: You got Caleb Williams Romadoonze who surely is waiting for
- 7:44Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams deal to get done first. Same thing with
- 7:46Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner, as well as Marius Mims
- 7:50Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Stacey, you're there in Chicago. You spent a
- 7:53Speaker 1: great deal of time around that Bears team through the
- 7:58Speaker 1: course of Mini camp and everything else. When you talk
- 8:02Speaker 1: about this Bears team and you talk about what Caleb
- 8:05Speaker 1: Williams can do moving forward, where does he fit into
- 8:07Speaker 1: the bigger picture in terms of the quarterbacks coming up
- 8:11Speaker 1: here and what this Bear's team hopes to accomplish in
- 8:13Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
- 8:16Speaker 5: Well, Tom, to put it simply, he fits in perfectly
- 8:18Speaker 5: well to the big picture, so much so that I
- 8:20Speaker 5: would just say, given what I've witnessed, observed, and gleaned
- 8:26Speaker 5: over the course of this offseason, he is ready for
- 8:29Speaker 5: the demands and the pressure that go along with being
- 8:31Speaker 5: the franchise quarterback of the Chicago Bears in a city
- 8:34Speaker 5: like Chicago. That is absolutely demanding success.
- 8:38Speaker 6: They are so.
- 8:42Speaker 5: Overdue, I guess is the word for success, and especially
- 8:45Speaker 5: at the quarterback position, at least they feel because I
- 8:48Speaker 5: live here in Chicago. The thing that he's done really well,
- 8:51Speaker 5: besides integrating himself into the community, and that is a
- 8:54Speaker 5: genuine integration, is the forging of his relationships, not only
- 8:59Speaker 5: with Maddi, but with his new teammates. He has great
- 9:02Speaker 5: reverence and respect for them. So there's a humility that
- 9:05Speaker 5: he has brought. If you talk to any of his teammates,
- 9:07Speaker 5: there's a humility despite being the first overall pick, that
- 9:10Speaker 5: he's brought to this locker room. I think the teammates
- 9:13Speaker 5: love that part about him. And then it's the on
- 9:15Speaker 5: the field stuff.
- 9:16Speaker 6: You guys.
- 9:16Speaker 5: Putting it very simply, Caleb Williams as good as he is,
- 9:19Speaker 5: as well as he can sling the rock if you will,
- 9:23Speaker 5: He has so welcomed the learning curve and what it
- 9:26Speaker 5: will take in terms of cadence and command. Right, it
- 9:29Speaker 5: ain't clap, let's get and go with the play call
- 9:32Speaker 5: from the sideline. It is he has got to read
- 9:34Speaker 5: that thing out to his offensive line and to the
- 9:37Speaker 5: rest of the offense. He's got to get up under
- 9:39Speaker 5: center and make sure that whole thing is a working operation.
- 9:42Speaker 5: He has welcomed that challenge, and I anticipate that with
- 9:45Speaker 5: all the talent there on that roster, things could be
- 9:49Speaker 5: maybe not perfect, but a little bit more smooth than
- 9:51Speaker 5: maybe we anticipate we'll see in training camp.
- 9:54Speaker 1: It's so fascinating, Stacy, because a big part of the
- 9:56Speaker 1: narrative with Caleb Williams coming out was just going to
- 9:59Speaker 1: be what type of a a guy was he going
- 10:01Speaker 1: to be in the locker room? Is he all about
- 10:02Speaker 1: all these other things that aren't football. As teams did
- 10:05Speaker 1: their homework and the Bears did their homework, a lot
- 10:07Speaker 1: of what they got back out of the USC program
- 10:09Speaker 1: was hemates.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Love the guy.
- 10:11Speaker 1: He goes to the Heisman Trophy ceremony, he brings all
- 10:13Speaker 1: of his offensive linemen, the backup quarterback has a birthday party.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Caleb shows up. They had him go out the Bears
- 10:19Speaker 1: did with some of his veteran teammates prior to them
- 10:23Speaker 1: selecting him as part of his thirty visit here. They
- 10:25Speaker 1: came away convinced this guy is the right person as
- 10:27Speaker 1: well as player to help us move forward in Chicago.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Miami seems like they've got their guys. Well it's to
- 10:34Speaker 1: a tongue Iloa, the Dolphins quarterback, but they have not
- 10:37Speaker 1: yet gotten to a contract with him either. Tiny Tua
- 10:42Speaker 1: as we I guess are gonna call him now here
- 10:44Speaker 1: spoke about his contract situation with the Porters a few
- 10:46Speaker 1: weeks ago.
- 10:48Speaker 7: Am I concerned about it? I'm not concerned about it,
- 10:50Speaker 7: But there's a lot of discussions, you know, that we've
- 10:54Speaker 7: had that you know, we just are trying to move
- 11:00Speaker 7: that thing into the right direction where we can both
- 11:02Speaker 7: be happy it personally.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Does your agent update you like every time they're a toss?
- 11:08Speaker 7: Well, my my agent updates me. But for me, I
- 11:12Speaker 7: don't like updates like every time, Like, you don't got
- 11:15Speaker 7: to tell me the little things. Just tell me things
- 11:17Speaker 7: that that matter. Are we getting to where we want
- 11:19Speaker 7: to or are we not? That's it.
- 11:21Speaker 8: Did you think there'd be more progress at this point?
- 11:23Speaker 7: Well, I think there's been a lot of progress at
- 11:25Speaker 7: this point from where we started. There's been a lot
- 11:27Speaker 7: of progress. Now, you know, you can ask the other question,
- 11:31Speaker 7: then why aren't we seeing you know, in agreement. Well,
- 11:34Speaker 7: that's the tough part about it. That's why it's it's business.
- 11:36Speaker 7: That's why you got one side and the other trying
- 11:38Speaker 7: to work to meet in the middle.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Let's bring in our friend Camera Wolf, who's down there
- 11:43Speaker 1: in South Florida, spends a lot of time around that
- 11:45Speaker 1: Dolphins team.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Cam.
- 11:47Speaker 1: I feeling we've had this conversation once or twice over
- 11:50Speaker 1: the past several months here with Tua Takaba Loa. Give
- 11:54Speaker 1: me your breakdown of where we stand right now and
- 11:56Speaker 1: how this thing proceeds in the month or so leading
- 11:58Speaker 1: up to training camp.
- 12:00Speaker 9: Well, Thomas teammates are calling him skinny to a first
- 12:02Speaker 9: of all, now that he's down the two fifteen down
- 12:05Speaker 9: from where he was last season, so he's lost about
- 12:09Speaker 9: ten or fifteen pounds from there. But a big thing
- 12:12Speaker 9: for the Dolphins as they go forward in an offseason,
- 12:14Speaker 9: obviously to of Tongue Balloa's contract extensions at the forefront,
- 12:18Speaker 9: but they are embracing really the negative narratives that will
- 12:21Speaker 9: follow them through this year three of the Mike McDaniel era.
- 12:24Speaker 10: There's had a lot of good in these two years.
- 12:27Speaker 9: Number one ranked offense resurgence of Tua on the heels
- 12:30Speaker 9: of that big contract extension, two winning seasons, two playoff
- 12:33Speaker 9: ascension appearances, but the big negative no playoff wins and
- 12:37Speaker 9: a four ten ten record in December and January. And
- 12:40Speaker 9: so I asked met Mike McDaniel in our last media
- 12:43Speaker 9: session two weeks ago, how do you coach your team
- 12:45Speaker 9: to get better come winter and playoff time?
- 12:47Speaker 10: He told me something interesting.
- 12:49Speaker 9: Listen here, he said, for half the offseason, he's had
- 12:51Speaker 9: staff meetings at seven to twenty four or three twenty
- 12:54Speaker 9: four or five to twenty four, all for the number
- 12:56Speaker 9: twenty four to mark the amount of years the Dolphins
- 12:59Speaker 9: have gone without a playoff win. That's an NFL high
- 13:02Speaker 9: twenty four years. So he wants the team to assess
- 13:05Speaker 9: about it, to embrace it, rather than let it overcome
- 13:08Speaker 9: them when that narrative comes up. And so the reality
- 13:11Speaker 9: is the spotlight is on this Dolphins team and it
- 13:13Speaker 9: will get brighter if and when Tua does become one
- 13:16Speaker 9: of the NFL highest paid quarterbacks. And as we talked
- 13:18Speaker 9: about in the top, negotiations are still ongoing, as Tuas said,
- 13:22Speaker 9: and I've heard there has been progress, but nothing done yet,
- 13:26Speaker 9: and both sides still want to get a deal done
- 13:28Speaker 9: by the start of the season. If it is done,
- 13:30Speaker 9: I expect to come in in the range of recent
- 13:33Speaker 9: quarterback extensions like Jared Golf, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, all
- 13:36Speaker 9: in that fifty three to fifty five million range. But
- 13:39Speaker 9: structure and guarantees are often the trickiest thing with this
- 13:43Speaker 9: And one thing I'll say Mark Tua used the word
- 13:45Speaker 9: ANTSI last time he talked and describe as motions of
- 13:48Speaker 9: not having a deal done at this point. He did
- 13:51Speaker 9: practice in the spring, but sat out eleven on eleven drills.
- 13:54Speaker 9: I'm curious to see what happens if there is no
- 13:56Speaker 9: deal at the start of training camp. Does he miss
- 13:58Speaker 9: eleven on eleven camp? That becomes a little bit more significant.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Cam.
- 14:04Speaker 4: It does feel like we talk about this every week.
- 14:05Speaker 4: But yes, these contracts are complicated people. This is why
- 14:09Speaker 4: it takes a while. It's not like, hey, here, take
- 14:11Speaker 4: this money and keep moving on. There's so much to
- 14:13Speaker 4: these contracts that you go back and forth with your
- 14:16Speaker 4: agent and your cat guy or a couple of cat
- 14:18Speaker 4: guys with it with the players agent. So that's why
- 14:20Speaker 4: it takes a while. It will get done. I have
- 14:23Speaker 4: no question that it will get done. And as we
- 14:25Speaker 4: talked about too, is the next man up and the
- 14:27Speaker 4: improvement and the record in the playoffs and the lack
- 14:31Speaker 4: of wins against big time teams. Tua has to get better,
- 14:34Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel. Of course he's going to take take the
- 14:36Speaker 4: brunt for himself and say as a coach, I had
- 14:38Speaker 4: to get better. But Tua has to get better too, Cam.
- 14:41Speaker 4: And that's that quick offense where he gets the ball
- 14:43Speaker 4: out fast and when they can out scheme people, they roll.
- 14:47Speaker 4: But when they can't do that, Tua has not shown
- 14:50Speaker 4: the ability to kind of take, Okay, what's my next
- 14:52Speaker 4: move off of this the skinny to a losing weight,
- 14:56Speaker 4: help them out with the movement, avoiding the rush and
- 14:58Speaker 4: making plays on the move. Is that going to be
- 15:01Speaker 4: the new facet of his game that it improves, but
- 15:03Speaker 4: he has to show that ability to handle the rush,
- 15:06Speaker 4: have that second option when things aren't quick and move
- 15:08Speaker 4: around skinny to Is he going to do it? Tom, Tiny, Tim,
- 15:11Speaker 4: whatever you want to call him, Tom, But we'll go
- 15:13Speaker 4: with Cam skinny toa that sounds better.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Cam, real quick.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Before we let you go here, you mentioned fifty three
- 15:18Speaker 1: to fifty five, which I think is where a lot
- 15:20Speaker 1: of people probably thought the tool contract would come in prior.
- 15:23Speaker 3: To Trevor Lawrence.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Now Trevor Lawrence on the books at fifty five, matching
- 15:27Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. You can go back and forth on the structure,
- 15:29Speaker 1: but do you still think realistically this there's a chance
- 15:32Speaker 1: that this deal could get done for under fifty five
- 15:35Speaker 1: million dollars per year.
- 15:36Speaker 8: No.
- 15:36Speaker 9: I think, as Tua said, clearly, the market is the market,
- 15:40Speaker 9: and I think Trevor Lawrence set the floor as far
- 15:42Speaker 9: as the AAV and I think the guarantees as we
- 15:45Speaker 9: look deeper into the deal, I think that'll be the
- 15:48Speaker 9: elements there's still deciding upon.
- 15:49Speaker 10: I don't expect him to take lower than what Trevor
- 15:52Speaker 10: Lawrence just took.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Cam Mark, thank you very much. Do not go anywhere.
- 15:56Speaker 1: We will be back with you shortly here. Meanwhile, elsewhere
- 16:00Speaker 1: in the AFC, we also had a move today by
- 16:02Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, who informed defensive tackle Isaiah Bugs
- 16:06Speaker 1: they are releasing him after multiple offseason arrests. Bugs bond
- 16:11Speaker 1: was revoked after his most recent arrest. He is currently
- 16:14Speaker 1: in jail as multiple legal cases play out. Bigger issues
- 16:18Speaker 1: to worry about than football at this point in Kansas
- 16:21Speaker 1: City is moving on coming up after this, cam Wolf
- 16:26Speaker 1: will be back. He's all over the place, all over
- 16:29Speaker 1: the AFC East, the AFC South and Blowyer. There's some
- 16:32Speaker 1: quarterbacks in that ladder.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Division.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Will break them all down, the latest insights on every
- 16:38Speaker 1: one of those guys, from C. J. Stroud to Anthony
- 16:41Speaker 1: Richardson and beyond. Who has a chance to take down
- 16:43Speaker 1: Stroud and the Texans. We'll talk about it on the inside.
- 16:50Speaker 1: The easiest way to break down Trevor Lawrence's new contract.
- 16:53Speaker 1: He got all the money, all of it, five year,
- 16:56Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five million dollar contract ascension with
- 16:59Speaker 1: a hundred and forty two million dollars fully guaranteed. The
- 17:02Speaker 1: fifty five million dollar per year apy matches Joe Burrow
- 17:07Speaker 1: for the most in NFL history. So what does Trevor
- 17:11Speaker 1: Lawrence have to do to live up to that type
- 17:14Speaker 1: of contract? For answers on that, we bring back our
- 17:17Speaker 1: friend Cameron Wolf here a fascinating division. First of all,
- 17:20Speaker 1: Cam overall here. If you're going down the list right
- 17:23Speaker 1: now in terms of the most intriguing teams, I don't
- 17:25Speaker 1: know if the Jaguars are in the top couple that
- 17:27Speaker 1: most people would say, but let's focus on Trevor Lawrence here.
- 17:30Speaker 1: You get paid like that, the pressure mounts even more
- 17:34Speaker 1: than it normally would on a number one pick. How
- 17:36Speaker 1: does he live up to it?
- 17:37Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 17:37Speaker 10: Tom, First, I can't win South This year youngest.
- 17:42Speaker 9: Quarterback division in football, all four starters under twenty five
- 17:46Speaker 9: years old, and the most experienced and highest paid one
- 17:49Speaker 9: is Trevor Lawrence.
- 17:50Speaker 10: And external expectations will.
- 17:53Speaker 9: Always rise with big money contracts, and the expectation for
- 17:56Speaker 9: the jag is a successful twenty twenty four season turning
- 18:00Speaker 9: to the playoffs, not just getting there, winning at least
- 18:03Speaker 9: one playoff game like they did in the first year
- 18:05Speaker 9: with Doug Peterson and Lawrence together.
- 18:08Speaker 10: And look, Lawrence talked to reporters earlier this.
- 18:10Speaker 9: Month and said he doesn't feel any extra pressure or
- 18:13Speaker 9: expectations because he always carried the pressure as a franchise quarterback.
- 18:17Speaker 9: But now all eyes are on him. Can he make
- 18:19Speaker 9: that jump from good quarterback to great quarterback? That's what
- 18:22Speaker 9: his contract represents. A quarterback that can lead his team
- 18:25Speaker 9: against Patrick Mahomes, against Josh Shallen, against Lamar Jackson, against
- 18:29Speaker 9: Joe Burrow, and one controllable area the Jaguars really want
- 18:33Speaker 9: Lawrence to take that next step is turnovers He's had
- 18:35Speaker 9: sixty turnovers in his first three years NFL High twenty one.
- 18:39Speaker 9: They think it comes from him being a little bit
- 18:41Speaker 9: too much superhero in those moments. They think experience and
- 18:44Speaker 9: also comfort will help, and he's already been a more
- 18:47Speaker 9: vocal guy in that building in terms of what he
- 18:49Speaker 9: wants in the offense.
- 18:51Speaker 10: I'm eager to see in training camp that early chemistry with.
- 18:53Speaker 9: Gabe Davis in first round pick Brian Thomas Junior, so
- 18:56Speaker 9: they can get off to a fast start.
- 18:59Speaker 1: That's superhero mentality too, may contribute to some of those injuries.
- 19:02Speaker 3: We know that he was banged up.
- 19:03Speaker 1: He plays through a lot, but he's not always at
- 19:06Speaker 1: one hundred percent when he's on the field. You better
- 19:08Speaker 1: be one hundred percent if you're going to try to
- 19:09Speaker 1: take down c J. Stroud and the Texans, who if
- 19:11Speaker 1: he went rewound to a year ago Cam we're talking
- 19:14Speaker 1: about realistically, what can he do? He'll probably start, but hey,
- 19:17Speaker 1: it's a new coaching staff, aholl new instead. They're one
- 19:20Speaker 1: of the most fun teams in the entire NFL through
- 19:23Speaker 1: the course last season, year two.
- 19:25Speaker 8: What's next?
- 19:26Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll talk to multiple league azexs, who says c J.
- 19:28Speaker 9: Stroud and Houston have jumped Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence is
- 19:32Speaker 9: the class the AFC South and the best threat to
- 19:34Speaker 9: challenge Kansas City in this division. Now they have the
- 19:37Speaker 9: hunted label on it. And one thing I've continued to
- 19:40Speaker 9: hear about CJ is they're going to give him more
- 19:42Speaker 9: control and ownership of this offense. He has a high
- 19:45Speaker 9: football IQ and has earned it. In the addition of
- 19:47Speaker 9: Stefan Diggs, more attention will be on how CJ manages
- 19:51Speaker 9: these three receivers, all with a alpha dog mentality. We
- 19:54Speaker 9: know Digs, but you got Nico Collins, big money dude
- 19:57Speaker 9: as well, and then Tank Dell coming off a really
- 20:00Speaker 9: hot rookie season. It's a role that CJ welcomes. You're
- 20:03Speaker 9: building quick chemistry already with these receivers. And a quick
- 20:06Speaker 9: story about CJ. Jaguars Dbs raved to me after a
- 20:10Speaker 9: game last year saying that he was a top five
- 20:12Speaker 9: superstar talent by middle of the season, and they said
- 20:16Speaker 9: their receivers broke open deep instead of short. That's just
- 20:19Speaker 9: a sign of CJ telling his receivers what he wants
- 20:22Speaker 9: and being clear with them overall.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson same draft class, but his rookie year starts
- 20:28Speaker 1: four games, doesn't finish three of them because of injuries. Here, Cam,
- 20:32Speaker 1: how is he doing medically as we look at the
- 20:34Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
- 20:36Speaker 10: Yeah, Tom, I'm told Anthony Richardson's arm is good. He's healthy.
- 20:39Speaker 9: He was back thrown on the field during spring workout,
- 20:42Speaker 9: slinging sixty yard passes. I'm told remember he had surgery
- 20:45Speaker 9: on that ac joint in October of last year. He
- 20:47Speaker 9: did miss the last day of mini camp earlier this month,
- 20:50Speaker 9: but that was termed to me as general shoulder soreness, precautionary,
- 20:54Speaker 9: not worthy of much concern. I'm told he's going to
- 20:57Speaker 9: train during summer break in Jacksonville with his private coterback
- 21:00Speaker 9: coaches will hewlet It and Tom Cormiley, and he'll report
- 21:02Speaker 9: to Indy from camp in late July. One thing Shane
- 21:05Speaker 9: steike In, the head coach, really wants him to work
- 21:07Speaker 9: on is being smarter in how he runs, being more selective.
- 21:11Speaker 9: They're on the same page with that. Anthony richards has said,
- 21:13Speaker 9: I'm not going to change my play style completely, but
- 21:16Speaker 9: I will be smarter and my goal is to play
- 21:18Speaker 9: every game this year.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the only new head coach in that division. It's
- 21:22Speaker 1: Brian Callahan in Tennessee. He said a lot of positive
- 21:26Speaker 1: things about Will Levis, including here on this show The
- 21:29Speaker 1: Insiders back in March. What's the plan for Will Levis
- 21:32Speaker 1: to not just be a fun story. He has guys
- 21:34Speaker 1: owing and eyeing with some of the throws he makes
- 21:36Speaker 1: in those micdup segments on the sideline, but actually put
- 21:39Speaker 1: them in that AFC South Max Yeah.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Tom.
- 21:42Speaker 9: One thing that was told to me early Brian Callahan,
- 21:44Speaker 9: the head coach, showed him a lot of Joe Burrow
- 21:46Speaker 9: tape and a glimpse of what this game will be like. Look,
- 21:49Speaker 9: Levis is not Joe, but they think that he can
- 21:52Speaker 9: seceed through a lot of the receivers they've added in
- 21:54Speaker 9: this offense, Calvin Ridley and Tyler Boyd to go with
- 21:57Speaker 9: DeAndre Hopkins. And I talked to a tight coach earlier
- 22:01Speaker 9: this week who told me that, look, one thing I
- 22:03Speaker 9: noticed during the spring is Levis really started to master
- 22:06Speaker 9: the offense in the latter stages and he also has
- 22:09Speaker 9: a trip plan with its receiver this summer. That's all
- 22:12Speaker 9: the elements of a young quarterback trying to take ownership.
- 22:15Speaker 9: He has that big arm, but he was inconsistent with
- 22:17Speaker 9: his accuracy. It was notable, though, that the Titans did
- 22:20Speaker 9: not sign at Kirk Cousins or draft of Michael Pennix.
- 22:23Speaker 9: They believe that Levis can be this quarterback and they
- 22:26Speaker 9: can develop them. But if not, then maybe they're back
- 22:28Speaker 9: in the quarterback hunt next summer.
- 22:31Speaker 1: They gave one of the biggest humans I've ever been
- 22:33Speaker 1: next to J. C. Latham with their first round pick camp.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You know who else? One of
- 22:38Speaker 1: the biggest humans I've ever seen in my life? Our
- 22:40Speaker 1: next guess it's Lane Johnson, the five time Pro Bowl
- 22:44Speaker 1: right tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 22:47Speaker 3: After what happened down the stretch last season.
- 22:49Speaker 1: How do they get back on track in twenty twenty four?
- 22:52Speaker 3: Baldy and I with Lane Johnson answers right after this.
- 22:55Speaker 11: On the inside, I don't know what's next, but I
- 23:04Speaker 11: look forward to the new challenges and opportunities that'll wait.
- 23:08Speaker 12: And I know that I carry with me the lessons
- 23:11Speaker 12: for my time here and that forever and that forever
- 23:20Speaker 12: we shall all share the bond of being Philadelphians.
- 23:26Speaker 3: Can only imagine some of those emotions.
- 23:28Speaker 1: He's all right there from Jason Kelsey were about this,
- 23:31Speaker 1: going to London seeing his brother's girlfriend Taylor Swift show
- 23:34Speaker 1: and then bragging about how many friendship racelets he got.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Good for you, Jason, keep enjoying retirement. Meanwhile, it's onward
- 23:42Speaker 1: and hopefully upward for the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Whose offensive line gonna look a little bit different.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Than it has for quite a while, particularly at that
- 23:50Speaker 1: center position where Cam Jurgens is stepping in. It certainly
- 23:53Speaker 1: helps when you've got a five time Pro Bowl right tackle,
- 23:57Speaker 1: and what do you know, he happens to join us
- 23:59Speaker 1: right now. It is Lane Johnson. Lane, thanks a lot
- 24:02Speaker 1: for being here. Your buddy end Ours Brian Baldeger is
- 24:05Speaker 1: here as well. I would ask how the off season's going,
- 24:08Speaker 1: but I'm guessing you don't really look at this time
- 24:10Speaker 1: period right here.
- 24:11Speaker 3: As the off season. What are you up to? What's
- 24:13Speaker 3: going on?
- 24:15Speaker 13: Yeah, so we're have about a month until what camps starts.
- 24:18Speaker 13: So getting in shape is nice and hot down here
- 24:21Speaker 13: in Oklahoma. It's one hundred degrees today, so getting in
- 24:24Speaker 13: shape and getting ready for the ways to countdown, Lane, for.
- 24:29Speaker 14: The first time since you came into this league in
- 24:32Speaker 14: twenty thirteen, Jason Kelsey won't be there, and we know
- 24:37Speaker 14: everybody but basically understands that this guy was far more
- 24:41Speaker 14: than just a great football player.
- 24:43Speaker 8: He was a great person. He was a leader. I
- 24:45Speaker 8: almost feel like like he is the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 24:48Speaker 14: What what is the offseason been like without Jason out
- 24:52Speaker 14: there on the field and kind of heading things up
- 24:54Speaker 14: and leading the room and all the things that he's
- 24:57Speaker 14: done since you came into this league.
- 25:00Speaker 13: Yeah, it is a lot different. You know, we have
- 25:02Speaker 13: seen him in the building quite a bit, so I
- 25:04Speaker 13: think he'll be around, you know, a little bit during
- 25:06Speaker 13: the season. But you know, he was just such a
- 25:09Speaker 13: passionate player. He obviously loved what he did and he
- 25:12Speaker 13: loved helping guys. So I think one day he'll make
- 25:14Speaker 13: a great coach. But I know he's busy. He's happily busy,
- 25:18Speaker 13: and yeah, I think he's very consent and yeah, just
- 25:23Speaker 13: you know, I think one of the best centers are
- 25:25Speaker 13: not the best center that'sart played the game.
- 25:28Speaker 14: Plane you proudly wear an Offensive Line Masterminds T shirt
- 25:32Speaker 14: right now.
- 25:32Speaker 8: I'm a little jealous. I don't have one on right now.
- 25:35Speaker 14: But this is the seventh year of the Offensive Line
- 25:39Speaker 14: Mastermind it is. It's grown exponentially every year. I thought
- 25:44Speaker 14: last year was the best year that we've had. Tell
- 25:47Speaker 14: us the fans and the audience out there a little
- 25:50Speaker 14: bit about what got you started behind this thing, because
- 25:53Speaker 14: you've been there from the very beginning. You and Duke
- 25:55Speaker 14: Manuweather down in Frisco, Texas. Tell us what the idea
- 25:59Speaker 14: was when you started this.
- 26:02Speaker 13: Yeah, so I think, you know, I credit von Miller
- 26:04Speaker 13: is starting you know, really the summits for you know, positions,
- 26:10Speaker 13: So I think he influenced obviously me talking about it.
- 26:13Speaker 13: Duke is one to reach out and said that we
- 26:15Speaker 13: should start something like this, So, you know, it was
- 26:19Speaker 13: something I felt like the Alvins line had a great
- 26:21Speaker 13: brotherhood and you have lots of vets and Hall of
- 26:24Speaker 13: Fame guys that are just ready to spread knowledge, willing
- 26:27Speaker 13: to spread knowledge. And I was like, we can get
- 26:29Speaker 13: these guys all in one room and have a weekend together,
- 26:33Speaker 13: you know, really at the right time of the year.
- 26:35Speaker 13: I think it could be great for you know, everybody
- 26:37Speaker 13: involved in And it started with around twenty five guys
- 26:41Speaker 13: and I think we're gonna have around three hundred and
- 26:43Speaker 13: fifty this year. And it's just you know, we break
- 26:46Speaker 13: up in two position groups. There's a you know, lots
- 26:49Speaker 13: of great players there that have played that position, so
- 26:52Speaker 13: you get a chance to improve your insight, improve your knowledge,
- 26:56Speaker 13: and you know, I think the timing of it right
- 26:58Speaker 13: before camp really gets you into the right state of
- 27:02Speaker 13: mom you know.
- 27:03Speaker 14: I mean, I think people understand, even people that didn't
- 27:07Speaker 14: play football understand if the offensive line is the brotherhood,
- 27:10Speaker 14: like we we kind of bond together within our own team,
- 27:14Speaker 14: each individual team. We do it after like myself, like
- 27:17Speaker 14: long after I've retired, Like there's always that sort of bond.
- 27:21Speaker 14: I feel like that's a big part of the success
- 27:24Speaker 14: and the growth of the masterminds.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's truly a unique position. You're in
- 27:30Speaker 2: a position of service suit.
- 27:32Speaker 13: So you know, our job is to protect the quarterback
- 27:35Speaker 13: and open up holes to the run game. So we're
- 27:37Speaker 13: really a fan of everybody you know on the offensive side.
- 27:41Speaker 13: But yeah, I mean, we spend so much time together
- 27:44Speaker 13: and so much of what we do, and our success
- 27:46Speaker 13: depends on the guide to the left and right of us,
- 27:48Speaker 13: you know, being in sequence, knowing the play call, knowing
- 27:51Speaker 13: the proper set lines, and you know, a lot of
- 27:54Speaker 13: a lot of that is what we talk about and
- 27:55Speaker 13: discuss at the summit, you know, talk about recovery, talk
- 27:59Speaker 13: about training. But really, you know, I think the Hall
- 28:03Speaker 13: of Fame panel has really taken off the past couple
- 28:06Speaker 13: of years, getting guys obviously in that category. I think
- 28:10Speaker 13: there are words speed, volumes, and you see he's got
- 28:14Speaker 13: soak it in and it's been really tremendous loss.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Blaine.
- 28:18Speaker 1: One of your teammates, Darius Slay, posted something on social
- 28:21Speaker 1: media the other day saying, how do we get an
- 28:23Speaker 1: offensive lineman on the.
- 28:25Speaker 3: Cover of Madden?
- 28:26Speaker 1: Have you have you given any thought to do we
- 28:28Speaker 1: get a grassroots type effort like the one that got
- 28:31Speaker 1: Peyton Hillis on the Madden cover many years ago? Do
- 28:34Speaker 1: we think we could start that right now? Make the
- 28:36Speaker 1: pitch for a big guy to land on that cover?
- 28:40Speaker 13: Man, I thought I thought Kelse would have been a
- 28:42Speaker 13: great candidate, you know, to be on the cover. I'm
- 28:46Speaker 13: just not sure which one, which one I would go on.
- 28:48Speaker 13: I think I'd w to Kels with a long hair
- 28:50Speaker 13: with the hair touching the shoulders, so.
- 28:52Speaker 2: I think that'd be a good one.
- 28:55Speaker 8: Lade.
- 28:55Speaker 14: One of the things that's coming up this year as
- 28:57Speaker 14: this game continues to grow is the Eagles are going
- 29:01Speaker 14: to Brazil this year to play your first game Friday night,
- 29:04Speaker 14: opening weekend of the season against the Packers.
- 29:07Speaker 8: Have you had time to kind of.
- 29:08Speaker 14: Think about the travel, the excitement playing like down in
- 29:12Speaker 14: South first game ever in South America like that.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm excited about it.
- 29:18Speaker 13: I'm glad that it's the first game of the year
- 29:20Speaker 13: so we'll get some time to recover from it.
- 29:22Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean really don't know what to expect.
- 29:25Speaker 13: I mean, you see the stories about you know what
- 29:28Speaker 13: what jersey we're gonna be allowed to wear, but you know,
- 29:30Speaker 13: I think all that'll be solved shortly. But yeah, I
- 29:34Speaker 13: mean usually training camps a busy time of the year
- 29:37Speaker 13: because you're having open practices, your your scrimmaged against other
- 29:40Speaker 13: teams and travel them to their place, so.
- 29:43Speaker 2: You know it won't be long. But I really am
- 29:45Speaker 2: looking forward to it.
- 29:47Speaker 13: Had a good time in London until I got rolled
- 29:49Speaker 13: up on any play, but you know, had a good
- 29:51Speaker 13: time until then, But really looking forward to.
- 29:55Speaker 8: Lane.
- 29:55Speaker 1: We all know what you guys did Philadelphia for about
- 29:58Speaker 1: a two year span there for the past half of
- 30:00Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, obviously all the way through twenty two
- 30:02Speaker 1: through the Super Bowl run and then last year we
- 30:04Speaker 1: all forget you were one of the hottest teams in
- 30:06Speaker 1: football up until about November there.
- 30:08Speaker 3: We all also know how it ended.
- 30:10Speaker 1: What's the best optimistic scenario you can think of in
- 30:13Speaker 1: terms of you see this team right now, what's the
- 30:15Speaker 1: best case you can make for this team getting back
- 30:18Speaker 1: to being that Eagles team we've seen before starting Week one?
- 30:22Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean we have a lot of new faces,
- 30:24Speaker 13: a lot of turnovers, so but felt comfortable with the
- 30:28Speaker 13: way that we drafted, got some great players and just
- 30:31Speaker 13: really when you look at our roster, we have a
- 30:32Speaker 13: lot of size. You know, obviously we have to go
- 30:35Speaker 13: prove things and are eager to do so. But when
- 30:38Speaker 13: you just look at the guys walking around the building,
- 30:40Speaker 13: we got size, we got speed.
- 30:44Speaker 2: And guys willing to work.
- 30:45Speaker 13: So, you know, every year is different, and I wish
- 30:48Speaker 13: I had the answers to you know, why the second
- 30:50Speaker 13: half of the season that went the way it did.
- 30:52Speaker 13: But you know it was something I went by so fast,
- 30:55Speaker 13: and I know effort wasn't a problem.
- 30:57Speaker 2: So but looking forward.
- 30:59Speaker 13: To obviously this new offense under Keller Moore going to
- 31:02Speaker 13: be some things changed up for us up front, and yeah,
- 31:07Speaker 13: just excited.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Man talks the year. It's crazy how fast it goes by.
- 31:12Speaker 8: Lane real quick.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Here.
- 31:13Speaker 14: One guy that does have great size and speed is
- 31:16Speaker 14: your newest teammate, Saquon Barkley.
- 31:19Speaker 8: You've around him this offseason, you're out there on the
- 31:22Speaker 8: field with him.
- 31:23Speaker 14: What have you seen, felt and enjoy about getting No Saquon,
- 31:28Speaker 14: I know you knew him from the Pro Bowl and
- 31:29Speaker 14: stuff like that, but as a teammate now as an egle,
- 31:33Speaker 14: I think he feels super excited about this part of
- 31:36Speaker 14: his next career.
- 31:38Speaker 13: Yeah, obviously, I mean once you're saying you'll never forget this,
- 31:43Speaker 13: you know, fensically imposing guy. I think he walks around
- 31:46Speaker 13: around two thirty. You know, he likes the golf, so
- 31:49Speaker 13: we've been golfing a few times. He's he's ultra competitive.
- 31:51Speaker 13: But yeah, I mean when you see obviously what he
- 31:54Speaker 13: can do at the running back position and we can
- 31:56Speaker 13: flex him out and receiver and he can you know,
- 32:00Speaker 13: he can go. It's it's really unbelievable. I never thought
- 32:03Speaker 13: that he would be playing for us, but you know,
- 32:07Speaker 13: here it is. I know that he's excited. We're definitely
- 32:10Speaker 13: excited up front and yeah, man, I think he's boysed
- 32:13Speaker 13: for for a big, big year.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Three hundred and fifty offensive linemen headed to the Mastermind Summit.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Awesome what you've built, Lane, real quick, I know, bald,
- 32:23Speaker 1: he's going to be joining you there as well. He's
- 32:25Speaker 1: gonna get a T shirt. You're wearing a T shirt?
- 32:27Speaker 1: Do you make him in a medium? And if so,
- 32:29Speaker 1: can I get one of those?
- 32:31Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 32:31Speaker 13: We got we got a bunch of great sizes. Yeah,
- 32:35Speaker 13: we'll tind of get some info. See if they run
- 32:37Speaker 13: a little bit or large, a little bit looser, if
- 32:40Speaker 13: they're tight fitting, so we'll get the ross ozk.
- 32:43Speaker 3: Youth Excel also works.
- 32:44Speaker 1: Lane, thanks a lot for being here, man, Joy, thank you,
- 32:48Speaker 1: Thank you. Eagles kickoff Week one in Brazil. Lions kickoff
- 32:55Speaker 1: in Detroit Sunday night football against their old friend Matthew
- 32:58Speaker 1: Stafford and the Rams. Could be the start of a
- 33:01Speaker 1: Jared Goff MVP push. Don't laugh, we'll talk MVP dark
- 33:05Speaker 1: horses next. On The Insiders, Lamar Jackson was, of course
- 33:16Speaker 1: your twenty twenty three NFL MVP.
- 33:19Speaker 3: Can he make it two in a row?
- 33:21Speaker 1: We will begin to find out starting seventy three days
- 33:24Speaker 1: from tonight when Jackson and the Ravens kick off the
- 33:28Speaker 1: twenty twenty four regular season against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Time now for on the Clock presented by Ram Trucks,
- 33:35Speaker 1: Tom Peliserra along with Mark Ross here on The Insiders,
- 33:39Speaker 1: our friend Judy Batista, who will be back on this
- 33:41Speaker 1: show I'm sure very soon, has a new story mark
- 33:44Speaker 1: on NFL dot com slash Batista outlining some of these,
- 33:48Speaker 1: she puts in dark horse candidates for NFL MVP who
- 33:53Speaker 1: could potentially take down Lamar Jackson. The first name on
- 33:56Speaker 1: her list Jared Goff of the Detroit Lions. Your thoughts,
- 34:02Speaker 1: Judy crushed this article.
- 34:04Speaker 4: First of all, in the year's past, anywhere he associated
- 34:06Speaker 4: with the Lions is a dark horse because they had
- 34:08Speaker 4: never done anything. But it's a new error for the
- 34:10Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, and Jared Golf is at the forefront of that.
- 34:13Speaker 4: And first of all, you got to produce Tom and
- 34:15Speaker 4: he did that last year. But most importantly, he'll be
- 34:18Speaker 4: even better because his offensive coordinator Ben Johnson is coming
- 34:22Speaker 4: back a model ras Saint Brown has the huge contract,
- 34:26Speaker 4: but also Jamison Williams, who the year he came out
- 34:28Speaker 4: of the draft or receiver I thought was the most
- 34:30Speaker 4: explosive receiver in that draft. He'll be back first full
- 34:34Speaker 4: time of starting, no no suspensions, no injuries. He's going
- 34:38Speaker 4: to add even more of a playmaking elopment for Jared Golf.
- 34:41Speaker 4: Jamier Gibbs, the running back from last year, will be
- 34:43Speaker 4: even better. So Jared Golf is going to put up numbers.
- 34:47Speaker 4: He's they're gonna win. They made the NFC Championship game
- 34:50Speaker 4: last year.
- 34:50Speaker 2: They'll win.
- 34:51Speaker 4: He'll have the spotlight, five prime time games and a
- 34:55Speaker 4: Thanksgiving game. So it's going to be right out in
- 34:57Speaker 4: front of everybody for Jared Golf to say, put up some.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Numbers on on time and when he's going to be
- 35:02Speaker 2: the MVP.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Positively tom Another name that jumped out of me on
- 35:06Speaker 1: Judy's list Kyler Murray of the Cardinals, And when you
- 35:09Speaker 1: think about it a little bit deeper here, I don't
- 35:12Speaker 1: think it's that crazy now. Obviously they got to accomplish
- 35:14Speaker 1: a lot just to try to compete within their own division.
- 35:17Speaker 1: But with Kyler Murray last year, he was coming off
- 35:19Speaker 1: of the ACL, he wasn't ready at the start, he
- 35:22Speaker 1: was in a new offense. You still saw a few
- 35:25Speaker 1: flashes down the stretch. We know he thinks really highly
- 35:27Speaker 1: of the OC there, Drew Petsing, Is it enough? Does
- 35:31Speaker 1: it all add up? Mark to Kyler Murray being an
- 35:33Speaker 1: MVP candid here in twenty twenty four?
- 35:36Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?
- 35:37Speaker 2: Judy dug deep on this.
- 35:38Speaker 4: One too, And Tom you mentioned it's almost that people
- 35:40Speaker 4: forgot that Kyler Murray was the offensive player of the
- 35:45Speaker 4: year when he came out, made the Pro Bowl twice.
- 35:48Speaker 4: You know, it's almost sad. Who's Kyler Murray can't play anymore?
- 35:51Speaker 4: You saw a little bit of the flashes when he
- 35:53Speaker 4: got back. Now he should be fully healthy.
- 35:55Speaker 3: Oh and he has.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior at his dispolder, who I thought was
- 35:59Speaker 4: the best wide receiver prospected ten fifteen years, So that
- 36:03Speaker 4: should help out as well. Kind of replicating that Kyler
- 36:06Speaker 4: Murray the DeAndre Hopkins a situation that they had a
- 36:09Speaker 4: few years ago. So yes, if Kyler Murray, the dynamic
- 36:12Speaker 4: playmaker with his arms and his legs, highlight plays may
- 36:16Speaker 4: not have the winning element like Jarrett Golf has in
- 36:18Speaker 4: a lot of primetime games, but just as far as
- 36:21Speaker 4: a dynamic playmaker, he should be in the mix as well.
- 36:25Speaker 1: I'm worder to help far down the list, we have
- 36:26Speaker 1: to go. Mark, the'll flat out say no way. Does
- 36:28Speaker 1: Sam dartle get us there? Does Russell Wilson get us there?
- 36:31Speaker 2: Julia? I'm supporting Judy.
- 36:33Speaker 4: I'm always gonna support Judy.
- 36:36Speaker 1: You and I are sitting here doing the show. You
- 36:38Speaker 1: don't have to help her. She's not watching it on
- 36:40Speaker 1: whatever island she's on. Okay, Mark, thank you very much,
- 36:43Speaker 1: appreciate you as always here.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Could Josh Allen be another one of those guys.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Who gets into the MVP mix ore Stacey Dale's going
- 36:51Speaker 1: to be back after this to talk about what Josh
- 36:53Speaker 1: Allen is trying to do to be even better without
- 36:57Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. That's next on the inside. If I told
- 37:10Speaker 1: you Trey McBride caught eighty one passes last season, would
- 37:14Speaker 1: you believe me?
- 37:15Speaker 3: It's true?
- 37:16Speaker 1: And he's going to try to kick off his twenty
- 37:17Speaker 1: twenty four in style when he joins the Insiders tomorrow
- 37:21Speaker 1: night at seven Eastern time. Stevan Diggs ol he always
- 37:25Speaker 1: catches a bucket of balls. Now he's going to be
- 37:27Speaker 1: trying to do that in Houston, where one of his
- 37:30Speaker 1: new teammates, case Keenum. You might remember they connected on
- 37:32Speaker 1: a pretty big pass against the Saites some years ago.
- 37:35Speaker 1: Keenum said at his annual youth football camp over the
- 37:38Speaker 1: weekend that Diggs hasn't lost a step. So where does
- 37:42Speaker 1: that leave Diggs's latest old team, the Buffalo Bills. Well,
- 37:47Speaker 1: they brought in some new faces to this team between
- 37:50Speaker 1: Keon Coleman, the high draft pick Curtis Samuel Khalil Shakir
- 37:54Speaker 1: Is back Mark wiz Voldez Scantling in case you missed
- 37:57Speaker 1: that one, he is now remember that team as our
- 38:00Speaker 1: Collins and Chase Claypool. But is it enough for that
- 38:04Speaker 1: Bill's offense with Joe Brady now the full time offensive
- 38:08Speaker 1: coordinator to be on track? Welcome back to the Insiders.
- 38:11Speaker 1: It's Tom Pildasero, joined again by our friend Stacy Dale. Stacy,
- 38:15Speaker 1: Josh Allen been there a lot physically. He puts himself
- 38:18Speaker 1: through a lot physically that included an elbow injury a
- 38:20Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Tell me what this Josh Allen
- 38:23Speaker 1: this offseason is trying to do to make sure he's
- 38:27Speaker 1: in top form for an offense that no longer has
- 38:30Speaker 1: his top receipt.
- 38:33Speaker 5: Well, I think if you look at the full screen, Tom,
- 38:36Speaker 5: that we just saw understanding. It's his seventh season. They
- 38:39Speaker 5: won the division. Last season, they lost to Kansas City
- 38:43Speaker 5: in the divisional round. They went eleven and six on
- 38:46Speaker 5: the regular season. Josh Allen is sitting there also looking
- 38:49Speaker 5: just like Bill's Mafia at this new roster that they
- 38:52Speaker 5: have assembled. My dad, Hey, Dad, he's watching. He is
- 38:55Speaker 5: a diehard Bill's Mafia fan. And there's some questions, right
- 39:00Speaker 5: who's going to step into the not just Stefan Diggs Roll,
- 39:03Speaker 5: but they gave Davis Roll and the production monsters. Those
- 39:05Speaker 5: two specifically have been for the last four years for
- 39:08Speaker 5: Josh Allen, which to me makes Josh Allen's job this
- 39:11Speaker 5: season tom perhaps the most high pressurized and most responsible
- 39:17Speaker 5: if you will, that he has to become in taking over,
- 39:20Speaker 5: truly taking over what this team does offensively.
- 39:24Speaker 6: He's got to get all these new guys in check.
- 39:25Speaker 6: Keon Coleman.
- 39:26Speaker 5: We know Khalil shak Here's he's pretty good and he's
- 39:29Speaker 5: going to do some good things inside and outside.
- 39:31Speaker 6: They have a lot of trust in him.
- 39:33Speaker 5: But Curtis Samuel's new NBS is new Mark Wes Baldes, Scantling,
- 39:37Speaker 5: and of course Chase Claypool will see if he can
- 39:39Speaker 5: revitalize his career in Orchard Park. But the bottom line
- 39:43Speaker 5: for Josh Allen, understanding all those things that I just mentioned, Tom,
- 39:48Speaker 5: it's all back to mechanics, because you alluded to as
- 39:50Speaker 5: you entered our conversation into the mix today, the injuries.
- 39:54Speaker 5: Even just last year he had the elbow issues, some
- 39:57Speaker 5: shoulder issues, and he openly talked about how he had
- 40:00Speaker 5: to change the way he threw the football last year
- 40:03Speaker 5: and the trajectory of how he threw the football because
- 40:05Speaker 5: of some of those nicks to his armor, if you will.
- 40:09Speaker 5: So for Josh Allen, this month is really critical. It's
- 40:13Speaker 5: getting back to really specific I would almost say, you know,
- 40:18Speaker 5: not as in his words, just refining, but really retooling
- 40:22Speaker 5: the fundamentals. And that's what they've been working on and
- 40:25Speaker 5: some of their opening drills through mandatory mini camp. So
- 40:28Speaker 5: I expect to really sharp Josh Allen because he's got
- 40:31Speaker 5: to be sharp.
- 40:31Speaker 6: For the group around him.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Bottom line, the Bills need to find some dogs. Maybe
- 40:36Speaker 1: they can borrow your Stacey always love when he makes
- 40:38Speaker 1: a little cameo here on the Insiders Don't move all
- 40:41Speaker 1: over this coming up right after this, we got to
- 40:44Speaker 1: talk about what Joe Burrow and Justin Jefferson we're doing
- 40:49Speaker 1: in Europe over the weekend and where exactly parts of
- 40:52Speaker 1: their suits wet. The long story, We'll try to wrap
- 40:55Speaker 1: it up quickly right after this. On the inside, be
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- 41:19Speaker 3: I'm sure Travis.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Kelcey subscribes to our podcast minimum. He's got one of
- 41:23Speaker 1: his own along with his brother. He's also in his
- 41:26Speaker 1: supporting actor Era get It on stage here with Taylor
- 41:31Speaker 1: Swift at a show recently in London. A lot to
- 41:36Speaker 1: unpack here, so I need to bring in my friends
- 41:38Speaker 1: Stacy Dale's and Cam Wolf. Stacy, first of all, your
- 41:42Speaker 1: thoughts on this new role here for Travis Kelsey.
- 41:45Speaker 6: I'm curious how they rehearsed this.
- 41:48Speaker 5: I mean, that could have been really interesting, that's all
- 41:52Speaker 5: I'll say.
- 41:58Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't look like it goes real there anyway. Cam.
- 42:02Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that I really don't have much here.
- 42:06Speaker 10: I mean it's this is me trying.
- 42:11Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 42:17Speaker 1: I yeah, all right, Let's move on to something more ridiculous,
- 42:21Speaker 1: and that is what Joe Burrow was wearing at the
- 42:25Speaker 1: Vogue Fashion show recently here as well, hy Man justin Jefferson.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Wait for it, wait for it. Here's the key question
- 42:32Speaker 3: on this one cam.
- 42:33Speaker 1: If I show up in that week one to a stadium,
- 42:36Speaker 1: do I get fired?
- 42:38Speaker 13: Ah?
- 42:39Speaker 10: No, because now Joe Burrow has done it. And I
- 42:42Speaker 10: will tell you this Tom.
- 42:43Speaker 9: At first, I was very against the shirtless the backless shirt,
- 42:48Speaker 9: and then I thought about it. I'm like, it's a
- 42:49Speaker 9: cool summer here in Florida, and so are you ready
- 42:54Speaker 9: for it?
- 42:54Speaker 10: Me and my wife have been doing some wardrobe and
- 42:57Speaker 10: I decided to.
- 42:58Speaker 8: Change my bless.
- 43:06Speaker 3: That's I do not have a little more low back
- 43:10Speaker 3: than I bargained for. Their cam say, what do you think?
- 43:14Speaker 9: This is the June and I'm I'm practicing my wardrobes
- 43:18Speaker 9: thanks to the Joe Burrow Who've got plenty of time
- 43:20Speaker 9: to get ready.
- 43:21Speaker 5: For the only the only difference, Cam, Let's be honest,
- 43:25Speaker 5: the only difference between your backless and Joe's backless.
- 43:31Speaker 6: That man got paid.
- 43:32Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what you're getting paid, but
- 43:34Speaker 5: that man right there, that man.
- 43:37Speaker 6: Got paid to wear that.
- 43:38Speaker 5: So for anybody who wants to opine over what Joe
- 43:41Speaker 5: Burrow is wearing, he got paid and you, my friend,
- 43:45Speaker 5: did not.
- 43:46Speaker 3: For that I did not.
- 43:47Speaker 1: And this difference was a few hundred rear decies.
- 43:52Speaker 3: But whatever, see tomorrow.