Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 29 April
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- 0:11Speaker 1: He's the good report.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Tonight, Fanatical Trump supporters should finally realize Donald Trump has
- 0:20Speaker 2: become an international minister conservatives. We've just seen that again
- 0:24Speaker 2: today in Canada's election. We'll seat again here on Saturday,
- 0:29Speaker 2: and so much more coming up too. We'll talk to him.
- 0:33Speaker 2: We'll talk to a man who will fact check the
- 0:36Speaker 2: Prime minister's bizarre excuse for not calling Donald Trump.
- 0:45Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he has a mobile phone the
- 0:48Speaker 3: US president.
- 0:52Speaker 2: In fact, I'll talk to a man's just off the
- 0:54Speaker 2: phone from Trump, the phone that Albanezi doesn't think Trump has.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Also tonight, the big story missed by the media. Only
- 1:00Speaker 2: one party has doubled the support in the polls, stunning,
- 1:04Speaker 2: So what's the big secret. I'll talk to its leader.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Plus a disgusting scare campaign by Teel politician exploding and
- 1:11Speaker 2: then URL player's death and Peter Dunton cuts loose after
- 1:15Speaker 2: his office is vandalized. But first, like I said, Trump
- 1:22Speaker 2: supporters have got to realize Donald Trump is an international
- 1:25Speaker 2: menace to conservatives. Now, Canada's left wing liberal government has
- 1:31Speaker 2: just proved that under new Prime Minister Mark Carney, it
- 1:35Speaker 2: was today re elected, even though it started the year
- 1:38Speaker 2: looking dead and buried, twenty five points behind the Conservative Party.
- 1:42Speaker 2: I cannot remember any party anywhere coming back so fast
- 1:47Speaker 2: from so far behind. And the main reason Donald Trump.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Trump has smashed the Conservatives in Canada and has crippled
- 1:58Speaker 2: Liberals in Australia. Canada today, you wait Australia on Saturday. Now.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Trump has done this by acting like an idiot, a
- 2:08Speaker 2: too bit tyrant, totally unnecessary, totally damaging, and to America too.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Trump was doing some great things, stopping illegal immigrants crossing
- 2:20Speaker 2: his borders, ending some of this ludicrous woke politics, standing
- 2:24Speaker 2: strong for Israel, all that stuff. But then he went nuts,
- 2:29Speaker 2: attacking America's friends while seeming to suck up to enemies
- 2:32Speaker 2: of democracy, especially the war cer in all Vladimir Putin,
- 2:36Speaker 2: Russia's president, even accusing Ukraine's Ukraine's president of somehow forcing
- 2:40Speaker 2: poor Russia to invade Ukraine. All they were shocking enough,
- 2:46Speaker 2: but it's what Trump did to Canada so personal, so
- 2:51Speaker 2: pointlessly offensive. He declared a trade war on Canada, hit
- 2:57Speaker 2: it with massive tariffs even before the Tara City announced
- 3:00Speaker 2: for the rest of the world, said he wanted to
- 3:03Speaker 2: destroy Canada's car industry.
- 3:06Speaker 4: But we don't really want Canada to make cars for us.
- 3:09Speaker 2: To put it bluntly, Trump also said that Canada should
- 3:14Speaker 2: become America's fifty first state, be taken over by him.
- 3:20Speaker 4: When I say they should be a state, I mean that,
- 3:22Speaker 4: I really mean that, because we can't be expected to
- 3:26Speaker 4: carry a country that is right next to us on
- 3:32Speaker 4: our border. It would be a great state. It would
- 3:34Speaker 4: be a cherished state.
- 3:36Speaker 2: To make it worse, remember that the context there that
- 3:40Speaker 2: takeover demand was in the context of Trump refusing even
- 3:44Speaker 2: to rule out sending in the army to take Greenland
- 3:47Speaker 2: as well, Canada's neighbor take it over from Denmark.
- 3:52Speaker 4: We need Greenland very importantly for international security.
- 3:58Speaker 2: We have to have Greenland. All this hit Canadians like
- 4:03Speaker 2: a bomb, I mean soon. The Canadian ice hockey team
- 4:06Speaker 2: was even having punch ups with the Americans, and hockey
- 4:10Speaker 2: fans were booing America's national anthem, inevitable happen. Canadians predictably
- 4:23Speaker 2: rallied to their government. Let me show you the polls.
- 4:26Speaker 2: They're dramatic. The Liberals in red from the start of
- 4:29Speaker 2: this year exploded in popularity and the Conservatives in blue
- 4:34Speaker 2: they sank as voters deserted the Conservative leader Pierre Poliev
- 4:38Speaker 2: for seeming too much like a Trump or Trump follower,
- 4:42Speaker 2: or at least that's how Mark Carney went for him
- 4:45Speaker 2: after taking over the Liberal leadership last month from the
- 4:47Speaker 2: hopeless Justin Trudeau.
- 4:49Speaker 5: Kera Polyev's plan will leave us divided and ready to
- 4:53Speaker 5: be conquered because a person who worships at the altar
- 5:00Speaker 5: of Donald Trump will kneel before him, not stand up
- 5:04Speaker 5: to them.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Okay, it's Loki Cohnnie, of course, but doesn't matter what
- 5:11Speaker 2: you hear it from the voters at the polls today.
- 5:15Speaker 6: I think who I voted for would be the best
- 5:18Speaker 6: to take care of Trump, because Trump is, I'm sorry
- 5:21Speaker 6: to say, an asshole.
- 5:23Speaker 7: Most top of mind is Canadian sovereignty, in maintaining that
- 5:25Speaker 7: Canada continues to be a sovereign nation.
- 5:29Speaker 2: And you hear it all over again from Matt County's
- 5:32Speaker 2: victory speech today, how Trump has turned America's closest they
- 5:35Speaker 2: lie into an angry enemy.
- 5:38Speaker 8: As I've been warning for months, America wants our land,
- 5:44Speaker 8: our resources, our water, our country never but these are
- 5:51Speaker 8: not These are not idle threats. President Trump is trying
- 5:57Speaker 8: to break us so that America can own us. That
- 6:01Speaker 8: will never that will never ever happen.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Something similar has happened right here. It's not as dramatic,
- 6:09Speaker 2: but it is just as deadly for the Liberals and
- 6:12Speaker 2: for opposition leader Peter Dutton, who Labor is also attacking
- 6:15Speaker 2: as a Trump fan or a TMU Trump. It's unfair,
- 6:20Speaker 2: but it has hurt Dunton again. You can see it
- 6:23Speaker 2: in the polls from January, even before the election was called,
- 6:28Speaker 2: even before the coalition's bad campaign, support for the coalition
- 6:35Speaker 2: started to slide. Labors rose, especially after Trump hit us
- 6:39Speaker 2: with Sarace a month ago, treating a slight dirt. The Coalition,
- 6:43Speaker 2: which was ahead of Labor at the start of this year,
- 6:47Speaker 2: is now behind. And when you look at the timing
- 6:50Speaker 2: of that slide from end of January, that tells you
- 6:54Speaker 2: Trump is a huge factor, and for a couple of reasons.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Real it's not just because voters didn't want Trump politics
- 7:03Speaker 2: here and got frightened of more change with Trump turning
- 7:06Speaker 2: the world on its head. Dutton and the Liberals also
- 7:10Speaker 2: got spooted, in my opinion, decided to make Dutton seem
- 7:15Speaker 2: cuddlier and friendlier and not as aggressive to be less
- 7:18Speaker 2: like Donald Trump. They got Dutton off the culture wars
- 7:21Speaker 2: that had been smashing Labor with before to Trump like
- 7:24Speaker 2: and so here we are, thanks to Trump and the
- 7:29Speaker 2: worst of Donald Trump. We've had the worst of governments
- 7:33Speaker 2: cruising to a re election on Saturday. Now that said
- 7:37Speaker 2: for months that Peter Dutton should pick a fight with
- 7:40Speaker 2: Trump to stand for Australia against the man who was
- 7:44Speaker 2: just standing for America and hurting us doing it. Dutton
- 7:50Speaker 2: should have fought an American president not for being a
- 7:53Speaker 2: good conservative at all, but for not being one, for
- 7:57Speaker 2: instead acting like a power man had crazy guy. Dutton
- 8:03Speaker 2: didn't didn't want to lose Trump supporters here perhaps, But
- 8:06Speaker 2: what a price is now paying as will we all
- 8:16Speaker 2: now talk later in the show about this disastrous Trump
- 8:19Speaker 2: factor with Sean Spicer, who's got perhaps a different take.
- 8:24Speaker 2: But speaking of the price we're going to pay to
- 8:26Speaker 2: something that should have blown up Labour's campaign today because
- 8:30Speaker 2: it exposed the danger of Labour's catastrophic global warming policies.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Yet as far as I could tell, the Prime Minister
- 8:40Speaker 2: today was not asked a single question about it. What blindness.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Just six days ago, Spain boast that had powered its
- 8:50Speaker 2: entire grid for the first time with one hundred percent
- 8:54Speaker 2: renewable energy. It's the green dream win Sola hydro that
- 8:59Speaker 2: no coal or nasty gas. But yesterday Spain and Portugal
- 9:05Speaker 2: suffered the biggest blackout in history, at least European history,
- 9:09Speaker 2: both countries completely losing electricity and four hours. People couldn't
- 9:15Speaker 2: use computers, they couldn't catch trains or planes, they couldn't
- 9:19Speaker 2: charge their phones. In many cases they couldn't even use
- 9:21Speaker 2: them anyway. Stoplights were out, factories close, total chaos. Now,
- 9:28Speaker 2: there's been lots of theories for this, but they still
- 9:30Speaker 2: don't know the full story. Was it a cyber attack
- 9:33Speaker 2: or maybe extreme weather events, even though Madrid was just
- 9:36Speaker 2: twenty three degrees so you couldn't blame that. But now
- 9:40Speaker 2: experts say this disaster was most likely we don't know
- 9:44Speaker 2: for sure. Was most likely caused by too much renewable power,
- 9:49Speaker 2: unreliable power that wasn't backed up by enough reliable power
- 9:53Speaker 2: like coal or gas or nuclear to keep the system
- 9:56Speaker 2: stable and stop it crashing. Just before the blackout which
- 10:01Speaker 2: started in Spain. Problem is, Spain also supplies a lot
- 10:05Speaker 2: of Portugal's power. The Spanish grid was using around seventy
- 10:09Speaker 2: percent renewable energy and then Bain, there's some kind of fluctuation.
- 10:15Speaker 2: A lot of power suddenly dropped in just five minutes.
- 10:19Speaker 2: System couldn't handle that. The whole system tripped. And because
- 10:23Speaker 2: Spain relies on so much wind and sold there was
- 10:26Speaker 2: enough stable power of the kind you get from nuclear
- 10:29Speaker 2: colon gas to restart the system fast. Remember this is
- 10:34Speaker 2: when Spain was using seventy percent renewables. Anthony Albanezi promises
- 10:40Speaker 2: to make Australia's grid use not seventy but eighty two
- 10:44Speaker 2: percent renewables just five years from now. But now we
- 10:48Speaker 2: see the great great danger. Now, before we get to
- 10:52Speaker 2: the crazy political risk labor it's taken with their electricity,
- 10:55Speaker 2: let's quickly hear from an expert on the engineering factors. Here.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Tony Irwin has commissioned and operated eight nuclear reactors in Britain.
- 11:04Speaker 2: He was also the first reactor manager for Australia's only
- 11:08Speaker 2: nuclear plant at Lucas Heights. Tony Ierwin, thank you so
- 11:13Speaker 2: much for joining me. We've heard various theories about why
- 11:17Speaker 2: Spain and Portugal were blacked out for ours, not much
- 11:20Speaker 2: firm information. There's a cyber attack. I'm not sure that's likely.
- 11:24Speaker 2: That one theory a mysterious disappearance of the Spanish premiers
- 11:28Speaker 2: of lots of electricity in just five seconds that tripped
- 11:31Speaker 2: the system. Others have said, oh, look there are temperature
- 11:34Speaker 2: rises even though Madrid was just a nice twenty three degrees,
- 11:37Speaker 2: and I think the one of the power supplies said
- 11:41Speaker 2: extreme oscillation. Look, who knows, what do you think happened?
- 11:45Speaker 2: In Layman's terms, Well, we're.
- 11:48Speaker 7: Looking at Portugal. Just before the incident, Portugal had forty
- 11:54Speaker 7: four percent solar, twenty two percent when i'm forty percent
- 12:00Speaker 7: import from Spain. So they're highly dependent on Spain for
- 12:06Speaker 7: the stability of their system. So when they have the
- 12:09Speaker 7: big problem in Spain, they lost that import. So you
- 12:14Speaker 7: can see the effect that would have had on on Portugal.
- 12:18Speaker 7: Are really massive dropping frequency and blackouts in Portugal as
- 12:26Speaker 7: far as Spain's concerned. Before the incidents, looking back at
- 12:32Speaker 7: the figures, they've got sixty percent solar, ten percent wind,
- 12:38Speaker 7: so seventy percent variables in the system, ten percent nuclear
- 12:45Speaker 7: and less than one percent call. What these Spanish authorities
- 12:51Speaker 7: are saying is that they lost fifteen gigawatts of power
- 12:54Speaker 7: in five seconds, so quite what's what they lost is
- 13:00Speaker 7: not certain yet.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Now I've heard the figures of up to seventy eight
- 13:04Speaker 2: percent at one stage of their electricity coming from wind
- 13:08Speaker 2: and solar. There's a problem then with that, isn't there?
- 13:13Speaker 2: Because wind and solar don't have inertia like you know,
- 13:18Speaker 2: inertia is like when you drive a car and you
- 13:20Speaker 2: take your foot off the accelerated the castle goes. It
- 13:23Speaker 2: doesn't stop suddenly. When you've got gas and coal and
- 13:28Speaker 2: nuclear area, you have got turbines that will keep running
- 13:31Speaker 2: even if there's an interruption and fairly steady speed, the
- 13:34Speaker 2: system can cope. Wind and solar are not like that.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Would that have been a problem that you could have
- 13:40Speaker 2: lost all that energy because suddenly, I don't know, wind
- 13:45Speaker 2: and sol the station start tripping. There's no inertia in
- 13:47Speaker 2: the system. Close, close, bang, the whole system goes.
- 13:51Speaker 7: Yeah, certainly with over seventy percent of variables in the system,
- 13:58Speaker 7: you know they're vulnerable to were a major disturbance which
- 14:03Speaker 7: which then cascades through the through the system. I mean
- 14:07Speaker 7: they've they've they had just ten percent nuclear as part
- 14:12Speaker 7: of the mix and less than one percent coal, so
- 14:15Speaker 7: that there was very little power there with with the inertia.
- 14:22Speaker 7: They would have got some from the French into connector,
- 14:25Speaker 7: but that appeared to have a problem you know, early
- 14:29Speaker 7: on in the in the piece as well, so they
- 14:32Speaker 7: didn't get the support from France. So yes, the system frequency,
- 14:40Speaker 7: I mean it fell to forty nine point eighty five,
- 14:46Speaker 7: very very very rapidly. You're looking at the frequency chart,
- 14:52Speaker 7: so massive dropping in frequency.
- 14:55Speaker 2: So one of the listeners here for Australia, then you've
- 14:58Speaker 2: got you've got the Labor Party promising to turn Australia
- 15:03Speaker 2: eighty three percent renewables in a short order, just a
- 15:08Speaker 2: few years from now. Does that make us even more
- 15:11Speaker 2: vulnerable than Spain to blackouts?
- 15:16Speaker 7: We are concerned about inertia in the system and the future.
- 15:21Speaker 7: I mean they're talking about trying to get inverts that
- 15:25Speaker 7: are a grid forming little be able to launch on
- 15:31Speaker 7: the system and form their own frequency, but that's still
- 15:36Speaker 7: still a problem. So increasingly we are vulnerable because of
- 15:42Speaker 7: increased amounts of wind and solar in the system.
- 15:47Speaker 2: All right, we don't hear much talk from the government
- 15:49Speaker 2: on that, so I suspect this could become a more
- 15:53Speaker 2: urgent matter of debate after what we've just seen happen
- 15:58Speaker 2: in Spain and Portugal, and thank you so much indeed
- 16:01Speaker 2: for your time. Thank you, Andrew. I should just correct
- 16:06Speaker 2: and misspeak there, like I said earlier, it's eighty two
- 16:08Speaker 2: percent labor starguent. It's eighty two percent by twenty thirty
- 16:12Speaker 2: renewable energy, not eighty three. Now today, before I get
- 16:16Speaker 2: onto more on this, we saw two examples of the
- 16:21Speaker 2: kind of maronic fear campaigns that have panicked labor into
- 16:25Speaker 2: pushing unreliable wing and solar power of the kind that
- 16:29Speaker 2: just blacked out Spain and Portugal while demonizing the reliable
- 16:36Speaker 2: nuclear power that actually works now today, Anti nuclear unionists
- 16:40Speaker 2: from the New South Wales South Coast Labor Council crashed
- 16:43Speaker 2: the Peter Dutton campaign event spoil the community event, had
- 16:47Speaker 2: to have it made. It was called off to pretend
- 16:50Speaker 2: to measure the oval there for a nuclear power plant
- 16:56Speaker 2: become a reality. I mean, seriously, that clown, That clown
- 17:05Speaker 2: has ever been to France, or to Britain, or to America,
- 17:09Speaker 2: or to Canada or any one of the many other
- 17:11Speaker 2: countries that have nuclear power. If you han't ever seen
- 17:14Speaker 2: even one person in the street dressed up in that
- 17:17Speaker 2: ridiculous clown gear to save them from radiation. I mean, seriously,
- 17:25Speaker 2: No wonder other locals at that event were in sense
- 17:28Speaker 2: that that idiotic fear mongering.
- 17:30Speaker 6: I think this is ridiculous. I don't know what they're
- 17:32Speaker 6: talking about.
- 17:33Speaker 2: They're ignorant, they don't know the facts, and they're just
- 17:35Speaker 2: scare hungering.
- 17:36Speaker 6: What do you make of all this, man, I think
- 17:38Speaker 6: it's ridiculous. We're part of Nuclear for Australia.
- 17:41Speaker 9: We're up to date with the facts, which is there
- 17:45Speaker 9: scare mongering and untruth.
- 17:49Speaker 2: And then there's that other fear that labor is exploiting
- 17:53Speaker 2: to justify this crazy push for renewables. Deadly global warming
- 17:59Speaker 2: is going to kill It's an insane proposition in any event,
- 18:04Speaker 2: But to show you how stupid or dishonest some warmest
- 18:09Speaker 2: politicians are. Note this surface Scumps is one of the
- 18:13Speaker 2: Teal MPs who tend to vote with the Greens global
- 18:16Speaker 2: warming hysterics. She actually had the hide to suggest that
- 18:20Speaker 2: NRL player Keith Titmas was killed by global warming when
- 18:23Speaker 2: he tragically died from a heart attack after a training
- 18:27Speaker 2: session five years ago.
- 18:29Speaker 10: We've got this thing called lethal humidity. Now, so the
- 18:33Speaker 10: death of that young man.
- 18:34Speaker 11: And I'm not saying the death of.
- 18:36Speaker 10: That young man.
- 18:36Speaker 11: The rugby league player.
- 18:38Speaker 10: When it was thirty three degrees very humid day, died
- 18:42Speaker 10: from heat stress after a training session. That type of
- 18:46Speaker 10: lethal humidity is something that the medical fraternity is getting
- 18:50Speaker 10: more and more concerned about.
- 18:51Speaker 2: You kind of disgusting. That's a vulture act. The coroner,
- 18:57Speaker 2: in fact said that temperatures that day were not thirty
- 19:00Speaker 2: three degrees but under twenty five, which is hard to
- 19:04Speaker 2: extreme at all, making you think, oh, global warming is coming.
- 19:07Speaker 2: And Timys's mother actually says, I'm disappointed the doctors comes
- 19:10Speaker 2: as using my son's name to try and gain political points,
- 19:14Speaker 2: when all she needed to do was to read coroner
- 19:16Speaker 2: Derek Lee's findings, which mention nothing about climate change. But
- 19:23Speaker 2: you know, when did a global woman scaremonger ever care
- 19:28Speaker 2: about facts. They're into the noble lie joining me is
- 19:32Speaker 2: our Tuesday regular National Senator Matt Canavan, the former Resources minister. Matt.
- 19:38Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, where does this steals politician get off
- 19:41Speaker 2: linking that tragic death to global warming.
- 19:46Speaker 12: Well, you can't get much lower in politics, I think,
- 19:49Speaker 12: Andrew than to link someone's tragic death for your own
- 19:55Speaker 12: political purposes. It's impossible to imagine the growth family has
- 20:01Speaker 12: had to go through the loss of someone so young,
- 20:03Speaker 12: a promising young individual in that and of course Sophie
- 20:08Speaker 12: scamps Here, a Teal politician, has compounded that grief through
- 20:12Speaker 12: these insensitive comments. It would appear she has made no
- 20:16Speaker 12: attempt to even contact the family given the family's response
- 20:19Speaker 12: to her comments, and what she needs to do now
- 20:22Speaker 12: is offer an unreserved apology to the family. We'll wait
- 20:27Speaker 12: and see if that happens. But unfortunately, to patterner behavior
- 20:30Speaker 12: from the Teals, you often find they present themselves out
- 20:32Speaker 12: to be the most kind of all politicians, but then
- 20:35Speaker 12: act in such insensitive ways like this. They say they're
- 20:38Speaker 12: the most transparent political party around, and then they hide
- 20:41Speaker 12: the facts of where they' getting their donations from fossil
- 20:43Speaker 12: fuel companies and other things. They just never live up
- 20:46Speaker 12: to their standards and es. Similarly, the only standards of
- 20:48Speaker 12: Teal political party has double standards.
- 20:54Speaker 2: She shouldn't just apologize to the family, she should apologize
- 20:56Speaker 2: to all voters that she'd be slid with that malachy
- 20:59Speaker 2: about glasbal Warming being responsible to the blackout in Spain
- 21:03Speaker 2: and Portugal. What does that tell you.
- 21:08Speaker 12: Well, it tells me that the path we're on is
- 21:12Speaker 12: a path to darkness. What's happened there in Spain has
- 21:16Speaker 12: all the hallmarks of a system that has got too
- 21:19Speaker 12: much unreliable intermittence power and wind and solar. As you've
- 21:23Speaker 12: said tonight, Spain was relying on over seventy percent for
- 21:27Speaker 12: solar and wind power when the blackout happened, and that
- 21:31Speaker 12: is in the zone of risk. It's very risky because
- 21:33Speaker 12: whatever causes Apparently, I see there's a lot of renewable
- 21:36Speaker 12: industry boosters out there saying this could be an atmospheric event.
- 21:41Speaker 12: Apparently this atmospheric event adheres to the Treaty of Westphalia
- 21:44Speaker 12: and only hit countries within their national boundaries. It didn't
- 21:48Speaker 12: affect a wider area. That's very strange. But even if
- 21:50Speaker 12: that was the case, the problem is when you've got
- 21:53Speaker 12: so much unreliable renewable energy in your system, your system
- 21:57Speaker 12: is not resilient and so when the shock happens to
- 21:59Speaker 12: the system can't self correct itself. As Tony Irwin so
- 22:03Speaker 12: eloquently said to you before, I think the problem here,
- 22:05Speaker 12: Andrew is our energy system is being designed by people
- 22:09Speaker 12: who do not understand it work, how it works. It's
- 22:13Speaker 12: like the pensioner in World War two who said, I
- 22:16Speaker 12: know I'm not worried about bread shortages because I only
- 22:18Speaker 12: eat toast. The people that are designing our energy system
- 22:22Speaker 12: think that just because they click a switch and the
- 22:24Speaker 12: light come on, that's all they need to know and
- 22:26Speaker 12: everything works. It is much much more complicated than this.
- 22:31Speaker 12: Just one quick fact. I mean the lights here in
- 22:33Speaker 12: this room, at your home, your viewers home, they're actually
- 22:35Speaker 12: flicking on and off. You just don't see it with
- 22:37Speaker 12: your naked eye. They're flicking on and off at fifty hertz.
- 22:40Speaker 12: That's the frequency electricity system runs at. And if we
- 22:42Speaker 12: can't keep that frequency by having big spinning things like
- 22:45Speaker 12: coal gas or nuclear power stations, we can't keep that stable.
- 22:49Speaker 12: They'll all go off.
- 22:52Speaker 2: I think it's a system run by ibu logs and
- 22:55Speaker 2: not engineers, and that is the issue here. The Prime
- 22:58Speaker 2: Minister today ran yet another fear campaign in honestly it's
- 23:04Speaker 2: all about fear that members of a strange Christian sect
- 23:08Speaker 2: called the Exclusive Brethren were allegedly joining volunteers working on
- 23:13Speaker 2: liberal voting stations, and he suggested without any evidence, that
- 23:17Speaker 2: the liberals had offered them some secret deal have Listen.
- 23:23Speaker 3: You have all sorts of strange occurrences with a cult
- 23:28Speaker 3: exclusive Brethren that they need to explain going forward. Where
- 23:32Speaker 3: are all these people coming from? Why are they campaigning
- 23:35Speaker 3: on birds? They don't vote, by the way, but they
- 23:38Speaker 3: all of a sudden have found this enthusiasm in their
- 23:41Speaker 3: hundreds to travel around the country to hand out how
- 23:44Speaker 3: to vote.
- 23:44Speaker 1: What's the quid pro quote?
- 23:46Speaker 2: There an even stranger one. Prominent labor MP Andrew Charlton
- 23:53Speaker 2: chased the couple of Liberal volunteers that he suspected of
- 23:56Speaker 2: being part of this Christian sect have videoed them as
- 23:59Speaker 2: he asked their religion. Here he is in a video
- 24:02Speaker 2: revealed today on Sky by Chris Kenny.
- 24:06Speaker 6: What are you going to do for us?
- 24:07Speaker 12: Andrew?
- 24:07Speaker 13: Are you a member of the Exclusive? What are you
- 24:09Speaker 13: going to do for us today?
- 24:10Speaker 1: Andrew?
- 24:10Speaker 14: Are you if you get elected?
- 24:12Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
- 24:12Speaker 13: I'm going to save our healthcare system. I'm going to
- 24:15Speaker 13: make sure that more people can see a doctor. I'm
- 24:18Speaker 13: going to make sure that we introduce our policies to
- 24:21Speaker 13: improve Australia's economy, which we've been doing frequently very good.
- 24:26Speaker 13: I've been making sure that we're telling the truth, and
- 24:28Speaker 13: what does where we all are and what does religion
- 24:31Speaker 13: have to do with volunteering? Are you going to answer
- 24:33Speaker 13: my question? Are you going to ant him on?
- 24:36Speaker 2: I'll take that as a note see later now, mccanavan.
- 24:40Speaker 2: What are Andrew chouton and Anthony aveniez he actually suggesting
- 24:43Speaker 2: here that people of faiths or certain sects they don't
- 24:48Speaker 2: like not be part of our democracy. I mean, oh, yes,
- 24:52Speaker 2: we can have Muslims, but we can't have exclusive Brethrens members.
- 24:57Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on, Andrew?
- 25:01Speaker 12: I haven't seen that conduct of Jesus played it to me,
- 25:05Speaker 12: but that's some of the most UnAustralian behavior I've ever
- 25:07Speaker 12: seen from a member of Parliament. We don't have a
- 25:10Speaker 12: country where you start going around and interrogating people about
- 25:14Speaker 12: their personal religious beliefs. That's for yourself and your God
- 25:17Speaker 12: and others. And I'm proud to campaign with people of
- 25:19Speaker 12: all faith, people with no faith. This is Australia. What
- 25:22Speaker 12: the hell is Andrew Felton doing here? And what the
- 25:24Speaker 12: hell is the Prime Minister doing calling a whole group
- 25:27Speaker 12: of Australians a cold for their own personal religious beliefs.
- 25:31Speaker 12: It's totally beyond the pale, and isn't this Andrew, isn't
- 25:34Speaker 12: this a prime minister that just went to masts twice
- 25:36Speaker 12: in the last week that has made a big splash
- 25:39Speaker 12: about his apparent conversion or reconversion to Catholicism. And I'm
- 25:43Speaker 12: the proud Catholic.
- 25:44Speaker 4: We welcome all to our church.
- 25:45Speaker 12: Fantastic the Prime Minister's back, But it seems to me
- 25:49Speaker 12: that he's subject here to the accusation of being a
- 25:51Speaker 12: campaign Catholic. He's kneeling in the church while the election's on.
- 25:55Speaker 12: Is he going to swear on the Bible next time
- 25:57Speaker 12: like he did in last time when he's next prime minister.
- 26:00Speaker 12: It's absolutely contemptible be treating Australians like this. Australians deserve
- 26:04Speaker 12: to be part of our political process. We have the
- 26:06Speaker 12: trade unions, they come up here in hundreds of members.
- 26:08Speaker 12: Good luck to them, good luck to them. But it
- 26:11Speaker 12: just seems to me that our Prime minister is upset
- 26:15Speaker 12: only only when Australians have the apparently temerity to combine
- 26:20Speaker 12: and organize against him. And that is also an Australian
- 26:23Speaker 12: Because we're a democracy, everybody has the chance to turn
- 26:26Speaker 12: up at a polling booth volunteer have their say in
- 26:29Speaker 12: this country and the chips will fall as they made
- 26:31Speaker 12: this Saturday.
- 26:33Speaker 2: And where is Labour's famed tolerance. I don't see much
- 26:36Speaker 2: of it actually, Mtkenvan, thank you so much for your time.
- 26:41Speaker 2: After the break the Trump Factor in fact checking Anthony
- 26:44Speaker 2: Abernez's extraordinary exkews for not managing to get Donald Trump
- 26:48Speaker 2: on the phone.
- 26:50Speaker 3: I don't have Donald Trump's number. I didn't have Joe
- 26:54Speaker 3: Biden's number. It's not the way it works, really.
- 27:00Speaker 2: I'll talk to a man after the break who's just
- 27:03Speaker 2: got off the phone to Donald Trump, the phone that
- 27:05Speaker 2: Albanezi doesn't think Trump has. But back to this Trump factor,
- 27:14Speaker 2: how it's helping to get lift wing governments re elected
- 27:17Speaker 2: here and in Canada. How Trump is hurting conservative conservative
- 27:22Speaker 2: parties in the English speaking wessel are not so much
- 27:24Speaker 2: in Europe. It seems. Even on the day the Canadians
- 27:28Speaker 2: were voting, Trump posted more inflammatory insults, telling Canadians to
- 27:32Speaker 2: elect the man who has the strength and wisdom to
- 27:35Speaker 2: cut your taxes in half. Have your castile, aluminium, lumber,
- 27:38Speaker 2: energy and all other businesses quadruple in size. If Canada
- 27:44Speaker 2: becomes the cherished fifty first state of the United States
- 27:47Speaker 2: of America. Joining me is Sean Spiceer, Donald Trump's first
- 27:51Speaker 2: White House spokesman, Sean Spicer, Great to see you again.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Look on the very day that Canadians are voting, on
- 27:59Speaker 2: the day the conservaive leader Pierre Polieve looks like being
- 28:02Speaker 2: sunk for being too much like Donald Trump, who's been
- 28:05Speaker 2: attacking Canada. President Trump actually tells Canadians to vote for
- 28:10Speaker 2: the candidate will turn candidates to the fifty first state.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Why would you do something so damaging to Polliev?
- 28:17Speaker 6: I don't look. I think that that race was over
- 28:21Speaker 6: for has been over for a while. The one thing
- 28:23Speaker 6: to be clear on is Donald Trump has sort of
- 28:25Speaker 6: been teasing this idea becoming the fifty first state because
- 28:28Speaker 6: Justin Trudeau had made it clear that they needed the
- 28:32Speaker 6: imbalance in trade to exist because of Canada's dependence on
- 28:35Speaker 6: the US, and Trump jokingly remarked, well, then you might
- 28:38Speaker 6: as well be a state if that's going to be
- 28:40Speaker 6: the relationship that we had. I think it's just a
- 28:43Speaker 6: reminder to the Canadians that the imbalance that exists right
- 28:47Speaker 6: now is much more like that we have with our
- 28:50Speaker 6: individual states. From the federal government than that what you
- 28:52Speaker 6: have with a sovereign nation.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Well, as you know, Sean Australia is also going to
- 28:57Speaker 2: the polls on Saturday, and our Prime minister has also
- 29:02Speaker 2: been attacking our opposition leader as well for being too
- 29:05Speaker 2: much like Donald Trump. Why do you think the Donald
- 29:11Speaker 2: Trump tag is so damaging to conservative leaders around the world.
- 29:16Speaker 6: Well, I don't think it's damaging the conservative leaders around
- 29:19Speaker 6: the world. I think it's damaging to some of them.
- 29:21Speaker 6: Malay and down in South America and then Maloney in
- 29:26Speaker 6: Italy they've done very well. So I think it depends
- 29:30Speaker 6: on where you are and how you position yourself. But look,
- 29:34Speaker 6: I think because of the tariffs in particular, and how
- 29:37Speaker 6: people are describing their relationship with Donald Trump, it has
- 29:42Speaker 6: made it more of a nuanced issue in some of
- 29:44Speaker 6: these places where they're coming into their own races and
- 29:47Speaker 6: having to define the relationship that they have or want
- 29:50Speaker 6: to have with Donald Trump.
- 29:52Speaker 2: But I have to say our Prime minister also said
- 29:57Speaker 2: this in a debate.
- 29:58Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he has a I will find
- 30:00Speaker 3: the US President.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 30:04Speaker 6: No, I mean that doesn't sound I mean, look, I
- 30:07Speaker 6: actually I know that to be not true. I called
- 30:09Speaker 6: him on it. I'm thinking about this in my head
- 30:11Speaker 6: for a second. I've called him on it fairly recently.
- 30:14Speaker 6: As a matter of fact. Now, I'm not going to
- 30:16Speaker 6: give you the number, but I think that that's the
- 30:18Speaker 6: thing about a story like that, though, is that it's
- 30:20Speaker 6: not someone's word against another. Again, I think if you
- 30:23Speaker 6: talk to most people in the United States, including most reporters,
- 30:26Speaker 6: that's how they contact President Trump. They just dial them
- 30:29Speaker 6: up on his phone, much to the chagrin of his
- 30:31Speaker 6: current press staff. And I can speak as the former
- 30:34Speaker 6: leader of his previous press staff that that's been a
- 30:37Speaker 6: consistent theme with President Trump. But he is clearly accessible
- 30:41Speaker 6: and transparent. Again, it makes him tough to staff, but
- 30:45Speaker 6: it makes him who he is.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Well, maybe he's showing you could do the primes, our
- 30:50Speaker 2: prime minister favor and pass on the phone number because
- 30:53Speaker 2: he hasn't been able to get a phone call through
- 30:55Speaker 2: and doesn't seem to have the number himself. An amazing situation.
- 30:58Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you this here. Here's what I'll tell you.
- 31:01Speaker 6: You need to have your Prime minister reach back out
- 31:04Speaker 6: to your former ambassador, mister Joe Hockey, who did a
- 31:06Speaker 6: phenomenal job, and ask him to help because I know
- 31:10Speaker 6: Ambassador Hockey was able to converse with Donald Trump quite often,
- 31:14Speaker 6: so maybe we get him back in the service.
- 31:19Speaker 2: See, this is why we have you on the show,
- 31:20Speaker 2: because you are such a wonderful aid to American Australian
- 31:24Speaker 2: relationships like that our Prime minister, well, thank you. Coming
- 31:29Speaker 2: up to one hundred days in office, well your time tomorrow.
- 31:34Speaker 2: It's one hundred days in office for Donald Trump. The
- 31:38Speaker 2: president is behind in the polls. Rest Wilson has got
- 31:41Speaker 2: in forty seven fifty two. Other polls are even worse
- 31:46Speaker 2: for him. Why would that be?
- 31:50Speaker 6: You know, it's an interesting question. I spent almost the
- 31:52Speaker 6: entire day over at the White House Andrew in briefings
- 31:55Speaker 6: and talking to senior officials about this one hundred day mark.
- 32:00Speaker 6: And one of the questions that I asked them was this,
- 32:02Speaker 6: you know, what are the top one hundred day achievements
- 32:07Speaker 6: of the president. And when I got back Andrew was
- 32:10Speaker 6: a seventeen page document and I was going through it
- 32:14Speaker 6: and the thing and I was being serious. When I
- 32:16Speaker 6: was talking to a couple of folks today over at
- 32:17Speaker 6: the White House, I said, I know that President Trump
- 32:21Speaker 6: goes at breakneck speed, but every once in a while,
- 32:24Speaker 6: do you think that you've got to slow down how
- 32:26Speaker 6: you message? Because as a supporter and follower of this
- 32:31Speaker 6: White House, and I would argue fairly closely, I had
- 32:34Speaker 6: forgotten some of the things that he had accomplished in
- 32:36Speaker 6: the first one hundred days, because I think that one
- 32:38Speaker 6: of the challenges they face is that because Donald Trump
- 32:41Speaker 6: is doing so much, sometimes it's hard to stop, pause
- 32:46Speaker 6: and get the word out. So you think of some
- 32:49Speaker 6: of the efforts that he's led on doge and to
- 32:51Speaker 6: reform our federal government and the spending that we have.
- 32:53Speaker 6: You think of the cultural stuff, the woke DEI, the
- 32:56Speaker 6: transgender things that were big issues. All of the work
- 32:59Speaker 6: that he and his team are doing to keep America
- 33:02Speaker 6: safe and closing the border, and immigration reform, rolling up
- 33:05Speaker 6: bad guys and getting them back out of the country.
- 33:07Speaker 6: All of those things, one of them would have been
- 33:11Speaker 6: significant for a previous president. There's a level of confidence
- 33:14Speaker 6: that he has right now that wasn't there, I think
- 33:17Speaker 6: at the beginning of the first term, for obvious political reasons,
- 33:20Speaker 6: just you're new with the job. And I say that
- 33:23Speaker 6: because when you are more focused on the job that
- 33:27Speaker 6: you're doing and less about putting your finger in the
- 33:29Speaker 6: air on whatever pole is up or down, you feel
- 33:32Speaker 6: more resolute and purposeful in what you're doing. And I
- 33:36Speaker 6: think that, look the thing that's fascinating. I point this
- 33:39Speaker 6: out to people all the time. The easy thing politically
- 33:43Speaker 6: for Donald Trump to do is nothing. Not cut government,
- 33:48Speaker 6: not hold other countries accountable with the tariffs, not deport
- 33:51Speaker 6: all of these people who are criminals in the country.
- 33:55Speaker 6: Just go along to get along, let your numbers rise.
- 33:57Speaker 6: Do some cute stuff on the side, like Bill Clinton
- 33:59Speaker 6: did with midnight basketball. But the bottom line is, I
- 34:02Speaker 6: think he understands that he has a mandate for the
- 34:05Speaker 6: American people to do things, and some things might not
- 34:07Speaker 6: be immediately popular, but I believe in each one of
- 34:10Speaker 6: these cases, the long term result will prevail in the
- 34:15Speaker 6: polls and reflective of a positive outcome for him with
- 34:19Speaker 6: the American people. I know that because if he wanted to,
- 34:23Speaker 6: he could easily just shift on a dime and do
- 34:25Speaker 6: the easy thing. But he's willing to fight for what
- 34:28Speaker 6: he thinks is right and in the best interest in
- 34:30Speaker 6: the country. And sometimes that's not like the political short
- 34:34Speaker 6: term best thing.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Sean Spice, it always great to talk to you Thank
- 34:38Speaker 2: you so much for your time.
- 34:40Speaker 6: Absolutely see you next week, Andrew, thank you.
- 34:44Speaker 2: After the break, I'll talk to the leader of the
- 34:46Speaker 2: any party that's doing brilliantly in the polls, I mean,
- 34:49Speaker 2: more than double the support it had before the last selection.
- 34:53Speaker 2: How come no one'ce told you that the poll show
- 35:01Speaker 2: only one party outperforming in the polls. At least even
- 35:06Speaker 2: though most journalists ignore or kick it, it's Paul Enhans's
- 35:09Speaker 2: One Nation eight percent of the latest News poll, more
- 35:12Speaker 2: than double its support just before the last election. Why
- 35:16Speaker 2: is that because both major parties are on the nose?
- 35:19Speaker 2: Is it because, as it seems to me, it might
- 35:23Speaker 2: have stronger candidates this time than usual. I've talked on
- 35:26Speaker 2: the show to some of them, I Lee Hanson, Pauline
- 35:29Speaker 2: Staughters stand in Tasmania, or Stuart Bond's very impressive on
- 35:32Speaker 2: global warming policy, an Italian immigrant Bianca Colleccia, very articulate.
- 35:38Speaker 2: In fact, One Nation is getting almost respectable, and so
- 35:41Speaker 2: much so that the liberals have favored it with its
- 35:44Speaker 2: preferences in some critical states like Queensland and Tasmania, which
- 35:49Speaker 2: seemed to upset some journalists today.
- 35:52Speaker 12: Now John Howard made a concerted decision to preference one
- 35:55Speaker 12: nation last.
- 35:56Speaker 13: Why are you preferencing one nation second in the majority
- 35:59Speaker 13: of electors across the country.
- 36:00Speaker 15: Well, we've taken a decision that we want to make
- 36:02Speaker 15: sure that the strains can preference us first. That's the
- 36:05Speaker 15: most important way to be able to change this government.
- 36:07Speaker 15: And I want to make sure that we can change
- 36:11Speaker 15: the government so we can get our country back on track.
- 36:14Speaker 2: You're joining me is one Nation? Need to paul in
- 36:16Speaker 2: hands and Pauline, great to see you. Look, I don't
- 36:19Speaker 2: want to put the moles on you and don't count
- 36:22Speaker 2: your chickens and all that, but you are doing remarkably
- 36:26Speaker 2: well in the polls so far.
- 36:28Speaker 11: How do you explain it, Andrew, I'll put it this way.
- 36:34Speaker 9: It's about twenty nine years to the day that I
- 36:38Speaker 9: was first lected to Parliament. It's called resilience, honesty, integrity
- 36:45Speaker 9: and standing by what I believe in is best for
- 36:48Speaker 9: the austrange people. My fight has been for Australia and
- 36:51Speaker 9: its people, and I've been so consistent. What my message
- 36:55Speaker 9: has been hasn't changed whatsoever. And I just believe in
- 36:58Speaker 9: this country is ready for change. They've fed up with
- 37:00Speaker 9: the two major political parties they want change. They don't
- 37:02Speaker 9: trust the politicians. They're sick of the lies. They've had
- 37:06Speaker 9: enough of everything. They want someone who's going to be upfront,
- 37:08Speaker 9: honest with them. And I have always been that they
- 37:11Speaker 9: want someone who's going to fight for them and you know,
- 37:14Speaker 9: the future generations. Also, there's no vision for this country, Andrew.
- 37:18Speaker 9: It's just you know, the politicians are there up until
- 37:20Speaker 9: the next term. People want long term vision. They want
- 37:23Speaker 9: to know what's going to happen for them and the
- 37:25Speaker 9: future generations. And that's what I try and bring to
- 37:28Speaker 9: the table with my policies that I put out in February,
- 37:31Speaker 9: common sense Policies for the People.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, Paul, it seems to me that well
- 37:40Speaker 2: I thought you might suffer from Clive palmer stupid trumpet
- 37:43Speaker 2: of Patriots Party, but that seems to have blown a gasket.
- 37:47Speaker 2: That that take votes off you doesn't seem to happen.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Are you gaining from the very poor campaign of the coalition?
- 37:56Speaker 9: I think, Andrew, really, if you have a look at
- 37:58Speaker 9: our policies, what we're offering the austral people right pensions, aid,
- 38:02Speaker 9: pensioners and veterans can work unlimited hours without affecting the
- 38:06Speaker 9: pensions that they've worked hard for, entitled to all their
- 38:08Speaker 9: benefits that goes with it income splitting to allow those
- 38:12Speaker 9: people to actually split their income. So maybe one partner
- 38:15Speaker 9: wants to stay home from work to look after their
- 38:18Speaker 9: at least one dependent child. So it's saving up to
- 38:21Speaker 9: up to ten thousand dollars on an income of twenty
- 38:23Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in the house or
- 38:26Speaker 9: independent self funded retirees.
- 38:28Speaker 11: Why not give them some relief.
- 38:30Speaker 9: Raise it from eteing and half thousand dollars up to
- 38:33Speaker 9: thirty five thousand dollars.
- 38:34Speaker 11: These are policies that are going to help every day.
- 38:38Speaker 9: A strains out there with the cost of living prices
- 38:40Speaker 9: that we're going through. Peter Dutton's picked up a lot
- 38:43Speaker 9: of my policies. The fuel excise tax was my policy,
- 38:46Speaker 9: the superannuation scheme for housing, my policy, you know, stopping
- 38:51Speaker 9: foreign ownership of our housing my policy which a Labour Party.
- 38:55Speaker 11: Picked up as well.
- 38:56Speaker 9: Everything that I've put together is in the benefit of
- 38:59Speaker 9: this country and for the people.
- 39:01Speaker 11: Like I said, I'm true to my word.
- 39:03Speaker 9: I stand by what I say. I don't backpedal what
- 39:06Speaker 9: I've said years ago. Has happened in Australia and people
- 39:09Speaker 9: saying she warned us about this. I think my credibility
- 39:13Speaker 9: after nearly thirty years in politics has starting to People
- 39:17Speaker 9: are starting to wake up to what I'm trying to
- 39:19Speaker 9: do for the country.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Well maybe you just got a little bit more respectable, Pauline.
- 39:24Speaker 2: I don't want to frighten you by saying something like that,
- 39:27Speaker 2: but is it In part I was raising the possibility
- 39:33Speaker 2: that the Trump factor has scared Peter Dutton off the
- 39:37Speaker 2: culture wars that had helped him, you know, fighting their
- 39:39Speaker 2: voice scared him off. It leaving the field open to
- 39:44Speaker 2: you to actually talk about cultural war factors, you know,
- 39:48Speaker 2: cultural values.
- 39:52Speaker 11: That's what she's saying is true.
- 39:54Speaker 9: You know, no one wants to just Centerprize got out
- 39:56Speaker 9: there and said make Austraya great again. She had to
- 39:59Speaker 9: be right because David little Proud said it was a
- 40:02Speaker 9: slip of the tongue. Well, I'll scream it from the rooftops.
- 40:05Speaker 9: Make Australia graded at gain. We used to have all
- 40:08Speaker 9: this industries manufacturing in the country.
- 40:11Speaker 11: Where is all that? Where's the pride? Who we are
- 40:14Speaker 11: as astrands?
- 40:14Speaker 9: You can't even fly the flag, you can't even you know,
- 40:17Speaker 9: celebrate Australia Day without this division that's happening, or you
- 40:22Speaker 9: know Anzac Day what we saw last Friday. The division
- 40:25Speaker 9: that is happening in this country has to stop.
- 40:27Speaker 11: We are all astrands and.
- 40:29Speaker 9: Should be treated equally in the same and I'll keep
- 40:31Speaker 9: pushing that.
- 40:32Speaker 11: If I have.
- 40:32Speaker 9: Any legacy to leave in this country, it will be
- 40:35Speaker 9: about a quality for all the strands that we're proud
- 40:38Speaker 9: of who we are as a nation and build on
- 40:40Speaker 9: that with deed, prosperity and what we can now hand
- 40:43Speaker 9: on to future generations.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson, it's been remarkable how well you been doing
- 40:51Speaker 2: in the poles at least, like you say, don't count
- 40:53Speaker 2: your chickens. But it's also remarkable that no one else
- 40:56Speaker 2: has commented on that's incredible. Thank you very much for
- 40:59Speaker 2: your time. After the break, Peter Dutton's office is now vandalized.
- 41:07Speaker 2: How much more vicious can this stupid campaign get? And
- 41:11Speaker 2: Dunton today had had enough now I repeat, this is
- 41:18Speaker 2: a disgusting election campaign that to me shows a rot
- 41:22Speaker 2: in the heart of Australia. I mean it's not just
- 41:24Speaker 2: a shameless lying, especially by labor, but the divisions the menace,
- 41:28Speaker 2: the tribalism, much of it aimed at the liberals. I
- 41:31Speaker 2: mean the latest example Peter Dutton's office vandalized and an
- 41:35Speaker 2: eighteen year old woman charged Dunton today had had enough.
- 41:39Speaker 15: I want to make sure that we have disagreements, and
- 41:43Speaker 15: we can have disagreements, that's fine, but we need to
- 41:47Speaker 15: do it better than we have at the moment. And
- 41:49Speaker 15: see Green supporters and others out there shouting at booths
- 41:53Speaker 15: at you know, some of the we're employee security guards
- 41:57Speaker 15: now at booths because ETU workers and see it workers
- 42:00Speaker 15: intimidate older ladies, and you see the vandalism that is outrageous.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Joining me is the panel. Will Kingston, host of Far
- 42:10Speaker 2: at Will and excellent podcasts from the Spectator and Politics
- 42:13Speaker 2: and Culture Pascarnew's host The Nikko di Georgio Now with
- 42:16Speaker 2: their own show here on Sky every Friday at five pm. Will,
- 42:21Speaker 2: what are we seeing here?
- 42:24Speaker 14: Well? Andrew, consider the world that this eighteen year old
- 42:26Speaker 14: has grown up in. It's a world that's been shaped
- 42:29Speaker 14: by a liberal, progressive ideology that says, on the one
- 42:32Speaker 14: hand that words are violence, So you don't build the
- 42:35Speaker 14: toolkit as a young person to debate ideas. In fact,
- 42:39Speaker 14: you're not even exposed to ideas that may conflict with
- 42:43Speaker 14: your worldview. And at the same time, and perversely, it
- 42:47Speaker 14: is also in this world completely acceptable to use violence
- 42:50Speaker 14: if it means that you're stopping a fascist or you're
- 42:53Speaker 14: stopping the far right, which I'm sure that this eighteen
- 42:55Speaker 14: year old thought Peter Dutton represents. It's sad, but really
- 43:00Speaker 14: is this anything other than entirely predictable, And it's also
- 43:04Speaker 14: why and again it's it's very sad that I think
- 43:07Speaker 14: we're going to see more civil unrest in the UK,
- 43:09Speaker 14: in the Europe and in Australia in years to come.
- 43:14Speaker 2: Isn't it weird, Denika that people think in they've got
- 43:18Speaker 2: morality on this side and Dutton is so evil that
- 43:22Speaker 2: they do the sort of acts that have Dutton and
- 43:24Speaker 2: the supporters do them. They'll be horrified. They'll be saying,
- 43:26Speaker 2: look at the far right and marching the street trashing
- 43:30Speaker 2: stuff exactly.
- 43:32Speaker 16: And this is the exact point. We're always warned, Andrew
- 43:36Speaker 16: about the far right, that it's the far right the
- 43:39Speaker 16: biggest threat to this country and the biggest threat to
- 43:42Speaker 16: our nation, But nobody actually ever warns you, do they
- 43:45Speaker 16: about the so called tolerant left, and this is just
- 43:48Speaker 16: another blatant example of the tolerant left at work in
- 43:52Speaker 16: this country.
- 43:53Speaker 6: We are very lucky we don't generally have.
- 43:55Speaker 16: A lot of violent political campaigns, but this has been
- 43:58Speaker 16: atrocious from the very beginning.
- 44:00Speaker 6: I think a.
- 44:01Speaker 16: Lot of it has to do with culture wars in
- 44:03Speaker 16: this country. It's this next generation that are being completely
- 44:07Speaker 16: brainwashed into thinking that anybody that thinks differently or has
- 44:10Speaker 16: a different world view than them, that they're evil, than
- 44:13Speaker 16: they're the enemy, and that they hate them. And it's
- 44:15Speaker 16: fueled by nothing more than hate. And I've got to
- 44:18Speaker 16: say a lot of it is coming from classrooms where
- 44:20Speaker 16: it's starting. It's coming from university campuses, it's coming from
- 44:24Speaker 16: educational syllabuses, and it's brainwashing these people into thinking that
- 44:28Speaker 16: violent acts are okay. And that is the issue in
- 44:31Speaker 16: this country right now.
- 44:34Speaker 2: It's talking about hate and tribalism. It's extending to the media.
- 44:39Speaker 2: I was watching the media today again, the media left
- 44:43Speaker 2: treating Dutton with contempt, heckling, even smirking, smirking as they
- 44:49Speaker 2: try to ask Cuture questions.
- 44:54Speaker 11: You actually haven't detailed way its savings.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Well, look, we've made commitments in relation to programs it.
- 45:02Speaker 2: And look how I upset some god that do the
- 45:04Speaker 2: other day referred to a hate media here, including the
- 45:07Speaker 2: ABC and the guard in Australia, calling some media hate media.
- 45:13Speaker 6: You've called some journalist activists.
- 45:16Speaker 2: What questions have you taken.
- 45:18Speaker 15: An issue a Well, look, I think what Australians are
- 45:22Speaker 15: concentrating on only days out from the election is not
- 45:25Speaker 15: the feelings of you know, with respect anyone.
- 45:30Speaker 1: They're interested in what better for their family. Now that
- 45:32Speaker 1: isn't Blaming the media is a convenient excuse of this
- 45:35Speaker 1: point of the campaign.
- 45:36Speaker 15: And the final point that I'd make is that we'll
- 45:38Speaker 15: also feel safer as a country.
- 45:40Speaker 1: And I think that's incredibly important because at the moment.
- 45:43Speaker 15: The Prime Minister has this prime minister has had no
- 45:46Speaker 15: interest in relation to stopping the gangs, the crime gang,
- 45:49Speaker 15: stopping the illegal tobacco coming across the borders. I want
- 45:52Speaker 15: to make sure that we keep our country safe.
- 45:56Speaker 2: They didn't like that. Will is there, in fact an
- 45:58Speaker 2: anti conservative hate media should be so touchy to have
- 46:01Speaker 2: it said?
- 46:04Speaker 14: Of course there is, but that's always been baked into
- 46:05Speaker 14: the cake as an aside. Can these journalists start dressing
- 46:08Speaker 14: a bit more appropriately, one of those guys look like
- 46:10Speaker 14: a nineteen sevens jigglow. But this has always been baked
- 46:14Speaker 14: into the cake. Andrew, I don't recall John Howard winging
- 46:16Speaker 14: that Kerry O'Brien was biased against him. And what we've
- 46:19Speaker 14: seen in America is Donald Trump providing a blueprint of
- 46:21Speaker 14: how you take on an anti conservative hate media. That
- 46:24Speaker 14: is number one, you bypass them, so you hit the
- 46:26Speaker 14: podcast circuit. Peter Dunton should have been on podcasts like
- 46:29Speaker 14: mine telling the story outside of the mainstream media, and
- 46:32Speaker 14: he hasn't done that. And secondly, you've got to call
- 46:35Speaker 14: them out, which he has done, but he hasn't called
- 46:37Speaker 14: them out in that way that Trump does, with a
- 46:38Speaker 14: bit of charisma and a wink almost to say, you
- 46:40Speaker 14: guys are beneath me and I'm on the side of
- 46:43Speaker 14: the people against the mainstream media. I don't think, Unfortunately,
- 46:46Speaker 14: Peter Dutton has had the political skills to be able
- 46:49Speaker 14: to do it in that way. And so again, this
- 46:51Speaker 14: has always been the way, and it's up to a
- 46:53Speaker 14: conservative leader to be able to find ways to combat it.
- 46:58Speaker 2: Too touchy, Danika and to take out his point. Should
- 47:01Speaker 2: Dutton fire back with a spine on his face, laughing
- 47:04Speaker 2: them to scorn.
- 47:06Speaker 16: Absolutely, that's the best way to do it. Look, I
- 47:08Speaker 16: was a reporter once, Andrew, so I know what the
- 47:10Speaker 16: game is like. I've covered many a political campaign and
- 47:13Speaker 16: I can tell you that for these reporters it is
- 47:16Speaker 16: as big of a game for them as it is
- 47:18Speaker 16: for the politicians involved. And this is why we're seeing
- 47:21Speaker 16: a lot of the bias that's coming out in a
- 47:24Speaker 16: lot of the ridiculous and stupid questions that they're asking.
- 47:26Speaker 16: Because the media in Australia is so small, it comes
- 47:29Speaker 16: from a little political bubble over in Canberra. It's ideological
- 47:32Speaker 16: bias and the questions that they're actually asking, not all
- 47:35Speaker 16: of them. There are some very good journalists. They're all
- 47:38Speaker 16: ego driven. They're looking for gotcha moments. They're not sitting
- 47:40Speaker 16: there asking the questions that mum and dad at home
- 47:42Speaker 16: who can't pay their bills want to know.
- 47:44Speaker 6: It's about what they're going.
- 47:45Speaker 16: To be able to put a big splash, a big
- 47:47Speaker 16: gotcha moment, and they're targeting Peter Dunnan because he is
- 47:50Speaker 16: the easy target. I have not once Andrew seen when
- 47:53Speaker 16: Anthony Albanezi it whips out his Medicare cards, says the
- 47:55Speaker 16: coalition is going to make cuts to Edycare, which we
- 47:57Speaker 16: know is not true. When has one of those has
- 48:00Speaker 16: actually gone head to head with him and said, why
- 48:02Speaker 16: are you lying? Why do you keep pulling out this
- 48:04Speaker 16: party game, this party trick. They're all scared to do it,
- 48:07Speaker 16: and it's because they're not reporting with fear or favor,
- 48:09Speaker 16: and that is the problem there.
- 48:12Speaker 2: Might not be scared to do it unless you mean
- 48:15Speaker 2: that they're scared that that might make Anthony evenugency look
- 48:18Speaker 2: correct not so good. That might be the real fear there. Dinika,
- 48:22Speaker 2: to Georgio and Wilkingston, thank you very much to you both.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Appreciate that. That's it from me, coming up next to
- 48:29Speaker 2: Sherry markson good Night,