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Tamper Witnessing: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 2 & Karen Read Trial · Multiple Nerdgasm

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Happy birthday, Matt. And that's how I'm opening. Just nice and simple. It's
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Matt's birthday, sort of. I mean, here it was Matt's birthday two days ago.
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Yes. And there it was Matt's birthday yesterday. Yes. So, but I think in
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England maybe it's still my birthday. Still be a birthday. So, and I do have
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family in all of those regions. So, cuz technically your birthday, depending
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where you are, does last like 48 hours. I get messages for quite a long time.
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It's nice. I wonder if anyone's tried to elongate their birthday. I bet one of
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the Kardashians has done it, you know. Oh, it's your birthday. Sorry. No,
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you could do that. Just chase it around the world. Your birthday. Yep. be quite
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boring to play too. Like what would I have to do to get a longer life than I
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would have if I stayed in one place, you know, just chase time zones and, you
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know, cross the equator but not come back the other way.
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I don't think it works that way. Yeah, because then I'd have like the 14th a second time.
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But Brian Johnson's on to this. Have you seen him? That guy that's trying to live
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forever. Oh, that guy. The guy. Doesn't he like inject himself with his son's
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semen or something? No, his son's blood. Not much better. I mean, Dan could be.
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Who knows? At this point, he does all sorts of weird [ __ ] Welcome to Multiple
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Nerdgasm with your hosts, Matt, Luke,
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and Dan. Multiple Nerdgasm, your guide to all
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things nerdy.
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injects drinks, you know. Yeah.
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Yeah. I bet he'd be on it. Luke, you've been uh injected with stuff, have you
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not? Yes, just recently. How are you? I'm a little bit out of it still. So,
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was that an injection? They finally convinced you that you do need to do
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that or So, in the past, I have been going ketamine treatments. So, you know,
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horse tranquilizers. Well, that doesn't work anymore. Matthew Perry
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tranquilizers. Yes. Have they tried the ivormectton cuz that cures everything, I
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think. Not quite. So, they took me in and I thought I was just going to they
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were going to I wasn't quite sure what they're doing. They're going to
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electrocute nerves. And I went, "Yeah, whatever." I get there.
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I get there and they go, "Okay, we're going to put you under now." And so, I
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was thinking like just a local, no general anesthetic, but not quite. Mate,
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what I had to do was they put me to twilight state. So, I was under cuz I
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still had to respond. Oh, cuz they had X-ray machines and had
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needles in my leg finding the nerves and I had to respond to tell them if I could
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feel the tingling and then they would electrocute me. But the thing is, I
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don't remember any of that. Wow. I remember laying there going,
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"Okay, we're going to inject you now." And then the next thing going, "Luke,
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you did." They're waking me up going, "Look, you did fantastic." And I went,
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"What? You passed the test. I passed the test." So now I'm in a lot of pain. Oh
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no. Which is an expected side effect after it. But but you still have two
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legs. Still have two legs at the moment cuz I questioned you had sent a photo of
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of your legs. Yes. And then and then said, "All right, see you later." And
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for just for a moment I was like, "Wait a minute. Is this it?"
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I'd give you a bit more notice than that. That's what I thought. But I was
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But then that's just like if I'm picking you up from the hospital, which is what
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we had planned to do. Yes. and you're only going to have one leg. I need to
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know ahead of time for logistics and
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also just so that I don't go, "Oh, no, that's not my friend. My friend has
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two legs." Yeah, there'll be more notice and for some when I for that I think I'm
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in hospital for 3 weeks if I have that happen. I was going to say that makes
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more sense. Yes. Then a day. Pick me up the day of. But yeah, so now I just got to deal
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with the pain for a little bit and everything got to wear off and then
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we'll see what happens. Oh, cool. Yeah, but they electrocuted
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the ends of the nerves to try and stop them firing off. Okay. Evidently, if it
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works, it can last from 3 to 12 months. That's good, right? Yeah.
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3 to I mean 12 months is good if you get
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12 months is good. 3 months.
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We'll see. Yeah. Uh you may they wouldn't let me leave
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hospital everything all right my professor was my professor
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before he did the surgery he's like oh yeah your friend's coming to get you
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yeah that'll be fine he knows me yep whatever the nurses were no we've booked
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you a room you're going to stay here tonight and this is fine professor says
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it's fine it's good I no they kept me they want to look after me one night
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and did they did they look after No they kept me awake all like taking my blood
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pressure. Oh, they did that thing, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All I want to
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do is sleep. Just let me sleep.
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Um, you mentioned a miracle drug that um can cure anything. And that's that's the
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premise of a show I mentioned recently, Common Side effects, which is very good.
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I've just finished season one um animated show.
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Um there's two characters that are excellent. They're two cops and I think
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they would be great to cosplay as um
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right for me and Luke. Mhm. But one of us does have to be in blackface.
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But thankfully thankfully it's the taller of the two and you don't have a problem
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with it, right? But answer me this, Luke. Scroll down to cell 66 or 67. You
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can have a look at these two these two cops. Mhm. I'm
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thinking giant paperier-mâché heads of these characters faces. See, I
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have no idea who these people are. It's very fun. They're so funny. Hey, visitor.
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I say we just stick with the original idea. Zap Rican and K. That That is a
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pretty good idea. Yeah. A lot of body paint necessary for me though, that one. Yep.
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But it's either one of us, one of us colors color colors their whole body. So
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I'm voting for Yeah. Futurama. Um,
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yeah. There's a great character introduction in this show of this
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characters. It's just the one cop sitting in the car and he's looking
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through the wind screen and the other cop is in line for a hot dog for like
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getting their both their lunch and bring it back. And um he grabs the radio, just
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holds it on and then just turns up the radio and there's this really funky song
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on and you just see the other cop standing in line for the for the hot
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dog. Just start going and just dancing like knowing that cuz it's coming
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through the radio. There's just such a great partners like, "Oh, here's your
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favorite song. It's on right now for you." And Yeah. And then she just dances
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in the in the queue even though everyone can see. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. Giant
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papermâché heads. That's my plan. Do you know how to make papier-mâché heads?
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Uh, you made a paperier-mâché planet. Would you take the time to make giant paperier-mâché
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heads? Do I have the time? That's that's a whole other question. Yeah. Yes. So,
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it's great to come up with the ideas, having the time to do them. M that's why
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with cosplay I reckon you you pay someone to make it for you. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. I also don't have a lot of money. I don't have time and I don't
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have money. Um that's always you know we used to say you know when we were in our
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20s we were like oh we used to have no time or no money and heaps of time and
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now we've got heaps of money and and now it's like why I don't have any of that.
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Yeah but nothing time. No.
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Hi. Welcome back. Sorry about that.
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We're doing it slightly later and uh she's awake. Yes. Yeah. Cuz she usually
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wakes up right at the tail end, but now she's waking up right at the start. Yeah, exactly.
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All good. Excellent. A little louder than you were before. Are you sitting
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somewhere different? Closer. Yeah. No, I don't think so.
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Is that better? Maybe. Maybe you're just using your dad voice. All right, calm down.
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Maybe. Right. I know she's awake now, so it's like I'm not I don't have to be
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quiet. I can turn myself down. No, no, no, no, no. Don't Don't be hiding
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yourself. You do you. You do you, boo. All right. All right. Sorry. What did I
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miss? Anything?
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Uh Luke refuses to do blackface with me.
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Yeah. So, we're going to have to go back to our original plan of Rick and Morty.
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And there's no Rick and Morty. Yeah, that'd be great. You get to wear the
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cool costume. I just get to wear a yellow t-shirt and a pair of pants. I
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don't even know who Rick and Morty are yet. I haven't seen anything. You're
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turning into one of these fans that scares me. You know, it's funny. My
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mother-in-law was here today and um she does our she folds our laundry sometimes
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if she's just pottering around and decides we haven't done it quick enough.
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Yeah. And she found my my pickle Rick socks. Mhm. And she comes into my room. She's
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like, "These aren't yours." And I'm like, "No, they they are mine." She's
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like, Yeah, this isn't the kind of sock you wear. I'm like, no, I know, but I
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boy, they're my one crazy sock. She's like, I don't I don't like this. I don't
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approve of this. Yeah, she tells me when she doesn't approve.
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Yeah, when I need a haircut. Yeah. When I was
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young, my nan came to visit from England and she she was like, "Oh, you know,
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I'll do the laundry, all this kind of stuff." And she ironed everything and
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she ironed like creases into the into
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our jeans like the military trousers. Exactly. Right. And I remember going to
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get my jeans and being like [ __ ] Cuz that also would have taken time and
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effort. Yeah. Yeah. They are good at iring though, n women of that generation
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are [ __ ] good at it. Yeah. Now I don't even own an iring board. Yeah,
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that's a that's a skill women have lost, you know. It's a it's a real shame. It's
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a real shame. It might be controversial to say that, but uh I did say I did save
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the picture. Hold on. Just on that topic. Um and we do have some JK Rowling
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news today. She is a woman. She is a woman. But I did see um you can be sure
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of that. Yeah, just made that abundantly clear. Somebody named Stella Creasy. And I I
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honestly I don't know who that is, but I'm sure she's a lovely woman. Stella
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Creasy. Oh, that's what I said when my creased my pants. Stella crazy, man.
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Whoa. Stella Creasy. That does sound like early 90s slang. It
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isn't, but it could have been, right? Um, but I just saw this just pop up on
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my Facebook. JK Rowling is wrong. A woman can have a penis. Now, I don't
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want to get biological, but can they? Well, I'm not going to answer that. I'm
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not asking you two to answer it. I'm just saying. Can you reword the question
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if a biological woman then I think no but that's not what that person is there
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any other kind. What about what about people who are born with both?
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True. Not a man. I'm assuming they mean I mean we don't have to do this. I'm
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assuming that's referring to women. Yeah. But it doesn't say that. Do you
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know what I mean? Like Yeah, I know. But now they prior established that trans
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women are women. So when they say women, I think they just mean that. And whether
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you agree with them or not, I think that's what they mean. I don't disagree.
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I just I just think it's hilarious that it's just like look at this loser who
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thinks [ __ ] men have a penis. Yeah.
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Uh JK Rowling has come out. Um she's coming out blazing. Yeah, she's come
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out. I imagine that. No, that would still be okay providing that you still
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believe in the gender binary, right? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. I don't want
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to I don't want to see. She She made Dumbledore gay. So, she's got nothing
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wrong with people being gay. Just as long as you steal your own sex.
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I think you'll find something else made Dumbledore gay. We'll talk about that in
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a minute. Oh, okay. I got some other news, but go on. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well,
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this is pretty quick cuz all she did, she retweeted the poster for the uh
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National Asexuals Day. Um, which you think, oh, that's nice, she's supporting
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them. But no, no, no. decided to comment under it. Happy International Fake
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Oppression Day to anyone who wants complete strangers to know they don't fancy a shag.
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Right. I mean, how are they hurting anyone? Yeah, who gives a [ __ ] Also, I
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think I'm I'm as dubious as the next guy about about some of this cultural stuff
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and and identity politics, but but I know that that's not what asexual means.
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Asexual doesn't mean you're not horny, right? Sure. But what does it matter? It
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doesn't hurt anyone. You're right. Even if it did, who cares? I mean, she I
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guess she's she can have her opinion, but it's just it is very for somebody
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who's like, I'm just I'm just misunderstood. She's very venomous about
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these things. And she is now. And I must say, at the start when all she was doing
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was asking questions, I was 100% on her side cuz I'm like, "Yeah, no one is
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asking questions." And these are some pretty big changes to language we're
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making. So, let's ask all the question. Sure. And and if we decide yes, this is
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all good, then it is all good. And majority rules, that's how language
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works. But um yeah, she's she's doubled and tripled and quadrupled down now on
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just on the what I would call hate speech right at this point. Yeah, she's
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just gone hard in the I mean probably a result of the years
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now of [ __ ] what's been going on. She's just like that's just her. Does
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she actually do anything anymore? Doesn't need to. Um, well, she was doing
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like the the she was involved in the shows and the movies and stuff, but
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they've kind of either walked her out of the room because of all this stuff or
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they're just put thrown a sheet over her and she's going to talk about it. She
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wrote her a book that was outside of that did terribly and then she went back
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to do some more Harry Potter stuff and now I think she did a bunch of
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um crime novels under a pseudonym
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of a but that yeah as a she wrote them as a man like under the pseudonym of a
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man and that was controversial that make her trans that's because now with
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everything she's said the books were about a killer who dresses up as a woman
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to commit murder Uh, and everyone was like, "Oh, this is just a theme with her
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that she's like I mean, mind you, that's I mean that's that's what she thinks
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trans people are." No spoilers for Psycho from 1960, but that's the plot of
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that as well, right? Yeah. It's just like no spoilers, you know, when you
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combined with all the other stuff she Yeah. Yeah. Silence theme here. That's
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also the plot of that. Like there's there's a lot going on with that plot.
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But is she just influenced in her entire life by those films? Like I think it's
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Yeah, maybe. But I I tend to think Did she really think all of this or did she
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just make one comment that just got so much attention that she was like, I
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think I've found my [ __ ] rat hole that I'm just going to follow to the
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very end now. Die on this hill. Yeah. For the same thing as like I I honest to
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god don't believe that um [ __ ] Kanye West is a Nazi. I I just do not believe
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it. I don't believe he is sophisticated enough to be a Nazi, let alone anything
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else. He doesn't know anything about them. That's what I mean. Right. Yeah.
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Like the Nazis were very ideological. He is not. No. No. It's just a dramatic
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thing for him to do. Yeah. Yeah. And I kind of get the feeling that some people
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like they say something controversial, it gets them the right attention and
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they just [ __ ] go for it. Well, it seems with Kanye that does seem to what
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be what happens with him. He'll say controversial, then he everyone will
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talk about then he'll go away. Everyone will sort of forget about him and he go,
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hold on, people aren't talking about me. Nazis. Well, it's like he was even like at one
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point, oh, I've just learned what a Nazi is. Yeah, definitely not one of them.
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Yeah. But then the more he thought about it, he was like, no, actually I I am
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one. Like I'm not a card carrying Nazi, but I So funny, right? I do hate the
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Jews. He's like, I'm going to I'm a Nazi. Do you know what a Nazi is? No.
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Looked into it. I don't like that. Keep looking into it. Well, maybe I do. Maybe.
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Maybe I've misjudged. I'll give him a chance. I'll give him a chance. Like,
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what an what an evolution. Yeah. That's like the time one of my ex-girlfriends
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called me closed-minded because I wouldn't believe in [ __ ] Ike's reptilian theory.
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I mean, I love David Ike, but I mean, I love him, too, but I, you know, I often
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he's he's one in particular, and I did it was because I did, you know, I did a
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fake interview with him for this show once. I did a little mockup interview
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and I was so I was watching his stuff and I've always thought because I never
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looked into it. I thought maybe he's misunderstood. Maybe he's got some zany
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ideas. He's [ __ ] insane. Like I watched the lecture that I got some of
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those clips from. Yeah. Where he thinks there's like another planet in the solar
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system. And I don't even remember what the relevance of this is to anything.
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Yeah. Isn't Isn't it like directly opposite Earth which is why we can't see
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it cuz the sun's always in the way. And it's and it's I just I'm like what are
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you talking about? Like but there are people who believe that he's not the
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only one to this audiences there like hanging on his every word like oh my god
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like yeah calling other people close-minded if they don't listen to it.
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Here's the thing, right? As far-fetched as that sounded, if you brought evidence
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that that was the case, I've got no choice but to believe it cuz I'll
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believe whatever I see evidence for. Like, that is how science works, right?
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Where did he get any of this? It's imaginary. That's the thing. It's not
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that there's that there's no evidence for it, but it's constructed in a way.
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It's it's like a form of evidence where it's unfalsifiable. the evidence we do have but
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unforcable prove me wrong that's what you're saying that's what it seems like
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that's what he thinks he's sort of like with flatearthers they cannot give
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evidence flat earth all they do will try and poke holes in the globe and try and
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use that as evidence of flat earth poke holes in the globe yeah don't do that it'll burst
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okay it doesn't work like that a rabbit's can prove it's not a
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balloon Luke. Oh, no. It's a stubby hold, right? I I
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thought there was Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew. I'm sure.
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No, I'm not feeling the best. I'm So, it's just a vodka double cruiser.
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Yeah. Because because Luke has come out of surgery and he's a 17-year-old girl at a
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at a rave that she's snuck into. I'm not feeling well. I'm just having a freezer
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double. I'm still a little bit out of it from the
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um the stingy the electrolysis anotist.
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H the anus. This
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uh the fine I'll be a man. Don't have to be a man. Drink VB. No.
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What is a man? What even is a man? Yeah. What is a man? Ask JK Rowling.
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I would I would ask her and I'd say, "Am
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I a man?" And if she says no, I'd say,
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"Well, make me a man." Not in a frank. JK Rowling. I was going
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to say I would 100% sleep with JK Rowling. I mean, I wouldn't want her to
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talk about identity politics, but I find her attractive. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's
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what I'm into. This has got a strange direction. I
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wanted to mention You got a strange erection.
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You mentioned uh she made Dumbledore gay. Yes. And uh I just wanted to
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mention that I saw this article. Uh there's a there's a a Christian Sorry.
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Can I just ask you because I've not read these books. Is that in a book or was
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that a tweet? It was it was a it was a tweet clarification later. Yeah, a tweet
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probably. But now there's no point in the actual book where somebody says it's
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completely irrelevant in the books. He's an old man. It doesn't even come up. No
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one is. It doesn't come up in the the prequels. Those other books. It does. I
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think yeah those or are they just licensed? I don't I think they're
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movies. I don't think they were books. Okay. Not based on books. I think she
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was involved until they like I said shoved her out the door at some point.
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But yeah, like it was it was a tweet to go yes she was. He was also Hermione was
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black apparently and everyone was like yes and she was like I never said what
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she was and everyone's like it's [ __ ] clear that she's coded as a white child.
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Yeah. Like like all the other kids at that Scottish boarding school except for
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the ones you mentioned specifically aren't. Yes. And all the ones that are
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of the races have very typically racist names. Right. Right. I
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don't think you would have named her Hermione Granger if if you thought she
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was Anyway, whatever. Yeah, that's not your style. I mean, you could argue you
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could argue that the white people also have quite stereotypically white names.
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She's just not that imaginative, right? That's a thing, too. Now, if you if
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you're condescending to her, you call her Joanne. That's a thing on the
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internet. Have you noticed that? I have noticed that. Except that that is her
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name. I know, but it's just become a meme now. JK because she has the they
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forced her to do that so that people would think of her more like JR Tolken
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she wanted Joanne Rowling as the name. So I don't know why calling her name as
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a as a [ __ ] dissol. Yeah.
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But anyway, on the subject of turning people gay, a Christian nationalist
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podcast host this week in a in a podcast. This clip went viral because he
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was talking about a trip to Florida and how he said whenever he goes to the
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airport, he makes them pat him down cuz he's not going to go through the gay
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laser machine. And then people were like, "What?" And he said, "You don't
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know what that is. I'd rather a man touch me into laser at me." He says that. He
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goes, "Ironically, people think it's it's a bit weirder to have a man touch
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you. I don't think so, mate. You don't know what that that machine's doing to
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you. He thinks the machine turns you gay. Yeah. And he also said, "I won't
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let my son through that machine." Yeah. He said he was his friend. Your son was
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Oh, it was his son. His friend who is honest. I think the friend's name was
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CJ. And I just assumed cuz that's a [ __ ] little boy name. Yeah. So, you
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probably It could be a friend. Yeah. I don't know. Actually, no. You're not
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going through that. I need to watch this man touch you. Yeah. Yeah. And then he's
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gonna touch me with with you all over his hands. I mean,
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yeah. I just thought that's very funny. It is very funny. Yeah. Now, is he
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talking is he talking about just the normal like he's talking about the new
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ones or just I think he's talking about this one. The new ones like the ones where you can
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that one. Yeah. Um I just Yeah. It couldn't possibly just
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be the metal detector. Yeah. Who know? And just the the the the casual nature.
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He just says it in the if you watch the clip, he's just like obvious obviously
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I'm not going to go through the the gay maker as they call it. Yeah. As everyone
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calls it. I mean, I've got a sign on it that says caution may turn you gay. Why
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would you get in it? I got just talking about metal detectors and gays. I got
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hit on once by a gay security guard at
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the Daily Planet nightclub in Penri. Oh. And I was, it was so uncomfortable
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because I was very, very young. It was an under 18's night and he was a like a
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man. Oh. And um he was he worked there, right? He was the security guard. And
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he's just going with the wand of everyone who walked in. And he gets to
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me, he goes, "You got anything I might be interested in?" And I'm like, "No."
24:57
And then he puts it down near my dick and goes, "I don't know. Some down here
25:01
I might be interested
25:02
in." And I was like, "Fucking what?
25:09
A lighter. Have you got a lighter? That's right. I've never been to the I
25:14
never went to the Daily Planet. [ __ ] off. You didn't. I don't. I never went
25:17
to the Daily Planet. No, never went. I would not have fit in at the Daily
25:22
Planet. No one fits. I don't know what. No, it's on High Street in Penri. All
25:27
right. What's You're thinking of Yeah. What's that one? The one out the back of
25:32
the leagues club. Yes. What was that? I I don't never went there either.
25:38
The closest I got to the Daily Planet when you're going in someone's car and
25:41
just driving down High Street to go past and just look at girls. Yeah. More. You
25:45
know what? I reckon the funniest thing to do now if you could find is just to
25:49
look at cuz in my head those things were very grownup things that we could do
25:53
when we turned, you know, when we got old enough. I bet if I saw photos of
25:57
that now, it would just be a bunch of [ __ ] children. Children hammered
26:00
[ __ ] playing around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I reckon it' be very very
26:04
strange to see what it actually was. Well, I remember. Do you remember they
26:09
had dollar drink night at the Daily Planet at one point?
26:14
Dollar drink night. And a friend of ours, I can say his name cuz he's dead,
26:19
right? Robert Styler. You know who you are. That's the rule is This is a guy
26:24
who on another night got stabbed in the back. What's he going to do? Stop
26:27
talking to us again. Behind the Daily Planet. Yeah. But he he he he would
26:32
appreciate the jokes. He spent 50 plus dollars on dollar drinks there and had
26:37
to go to European hospital to get his stomach pumped. Wow.
26:42
See, I I used to get drunk, but I never get got that drunk. Yeah. Yeah. When
26:49
says, "Oh, that's pretty [ __ ] drunk." Yeah. I think I think
26:54
maybe goes to the bar says, "I think you should cut that guy off. You've got a
26:59
problem." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Swamp Bar was another good one for cheap. Oh, yes.
27:04
Swamp Bar. Well, I actually went to that uni, right? And it was cheaper there to
27:09
buy a beer than a Coke because a beer was $220 for a schooner and a Coke was
27:15
$280. Well, I used to go there on a Thursday night. They used to have bands
27:19
playing and it was jolly jug. So, you get a jug of beer for five bucks. Yeah.
27:23
Yeah. And then we discovered if you bought a glass from them for $5, it was
27:29
only $2 for a beer or $180 or something stupid. So we just had a glass behind
27:35
the [ __ ] counter with our name on it. It was what was stupid is how I used to
27:39
get to and from there. The fastest way was for me to jump train tracks. Oh yes.
27:45
You didn't go through the cross Kingswood. No, you you didn't want to
27:47
walk that whole way. It didn't walk that whole way. I went straight there. So
27:51
just dropped the train tracks and I was young. I don't want to freak you out,
27:55
Luke, but I literally saw two halves of a person on that very track roughly in
28:01
that area once when I was working at freak you out, but I know somebody who
28:07
ended their life that way. And I wonder if that's who you saw. [ __ ] hell.
28:11
Near Kingswood. Yeah. Yeah. Someone from
28:15
How many could there possibly be? Um, a lot actually. Yeah. Unfortunately, he
28:21
might be well slightly older than us, but yeah. I mean, I couldn't tell age,
28:25
sex, or race. Someone from a friend group you someone you might have bumped
28:30
into at some point. Someone from that friend group in Wellington. Oh,
28:35
oh, did it on purpose? Yeah. Well, I think so. The comedy part of the
28:42
podcast. All right. Fine. Fine. Fine.
28:48
This is seguing off your thing. Before we leave, local [ __ ] Western Sydney
28:52
bars that no one will know about but us. Um, oh, not Western Sydney, but Manning
28:56
Bar right at UNSW. Uh, which I saw so many I saw Dresden Dolls there [ __ ]
29:02
when they were nobody's, but uh the there's a covers band at the
29:09
moment. A um uh [ __ ] not 30 Seconds to Mars.
29:14
What's the the other emo band? Um, My Chemical Romance. Yeah, My There's a My
29:19
Chemical Robots covers band playing there at the moment. Um, which I find
29:24
odd that we're already far enough in the future of when they were popular that we
29:28
can have a covers band. But no, they they're quite old now. They're not Well,
29:33
I think like ABBA, Elvis, the Beatles, but they were old when we were old when
29:39
we were children. We're now adults. But uh the name of the covers band is
29:45
the Black Charade and I think that's just a great a great a great tribute.
29:51
That's a clever cover band name. Yeah, that's better than Abocadabra. You know
29:54
what I mean? Yeah, sure. Okay. My Chemical Romance have been around since
29:59
2001.
30:02
Yeah. 20 years. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. But when but when when we were young and
30:08
you ever were old that would have been Yeah. Yeah. about
30:14
Yeah, that's true. The weird thing cuz I used to my parents used to listen to the
30:18
oldies station in the 80s 2WS, right? Which was stuff from the 60s and 70s cuz
30:22
this was the ' 80s and that was all but it was like that stuff now is like yeah
30:28
as you say people you know in the the
30:31
millennium and yeah it freaks me out.
30:38
Guys, I um I went to Lumen. I mentioned I was going to do you're an
30:43
Audi right now. Yeah. Oh, you tell me. There's very few ways to tell. I know
30:49
too many things to be an idiot, I suppose. Um yeah, but I have a
30:55
feeling I've got a I've got a theory what's going to happen next season
30:59
actually, funnily enough. Uh well, we can talk about that. So, yeah. So, well,
31:02
just quickly on the way back from Let's extrapolate this. Yeah. Yeah. from the
31:05
on the way back from New Jersey. Uh Jenna had pointed out that there was uh
31:09
the location of the office where they shoot severance was very close to where
31:13
I was in New Jersey and sent me the address and it's the Bell Labs building
31:17
in New Jersey and I the Bell Telephone Company, right? Yeah. I was like, I'll
31:22
go check it out. The original telephone company. Yeah. Yeah. There's like an old
31:26
um pay phone in the in there as well. I took some photos of stuff. Um,
31:31
so I was like, I'll go have a look. And as I'm driving in, I'm like, oh yeah,
31:34
this is cuz, you know, it's a very unique looking building with the parking
31:37
lot and everything like that. It's all kind of got this weird egg shape around
31:40
it and whatever. So I driving in, I'm like, oh wow, this is yeah, this is it.
31:43
And then they had these electronic billboards that said welcome to Lumen,
31:49
you know, Apple TV kind of thing. And I was like, oh, that's a fun little gag. I
31:52
should do a loop and take a photo of those because I assume it's just going to be
31:57
an office building that I can't go into. Yeah. Yeah. So, I park work. Yeah.
32:02
Exactly. Right. So, I park and I walk up and I notice that there's a a bunch of
32:06
people, not not like tons and tons of people, but a bunch of people posing cuz
32:09
they've got the Lumen sign on the front of the building. And I was like, "Oh."
32:14
Which I guess makes sense that they would build a pop sign. Yeah. Yeah. So,
32:19
people are taking photos with it. And then I'm like, "Oh, you can go inside."
32:22
So I go inside and the foyer, like the
32:25
the lobby is just the set. Yeah. Because
32:29
it all when you snapped a picture of that watermelon head, I was
32:34
like, "Well, hold on." I was surprised. There's tons of stuff
32:40
there. That's just I guess they just like it's like it's fun. Why not just
32:46
leave it, I suppose? So, you walk in the lobby and it's got the desk with the
32:49
loom and it's the set from um the show is just there fenced off. They have
32:54
security everywhere and uh there's a whole bunch of stuff in there. Like the
32:58
building is really really cool. Like I mean you can see it in the show. You can
33:02
see why they picked it architecturally. That's why you went there. Yeah. Um so
33:06
they had a bunch of stuff. They had like the Lumen vending machines there just
33:11
around and then Awesome. There's a staircase uh around the back of the the
33:16
the entry area. That's it's the staircase that
33:21
um Mark often is seen walking up and down when he enters and exits. Not the
33:28
not the fire escape one that they kind of run out sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
33:31
But kind of the staircase that that people entering and exiting like when he
33:35
clocks in and he's like morning fill. Exactly. There's a like a stone
33:38
staircase that goes down. So that's there. They have security there because
33:41
when you you can go down, but once you get down to the bottom, you can't go
33:45
into the offices. So you have to go back up again. And they have some posters
33:49
down there. But there were people coming down and then coming back up and then
33:54
saying to the security guard, "Sorry, was there supposed to be something down
33:57
there?" And the security guard was like, "It's the staircase. You're supposed to
34:00
be looking at the staircase." And they're like, "Oh, this is actually
34:05
still just an office building. And I'm not a tour guide.
34:10
I'm just supposed to stop you from going in there where people are actually
34:14
working. That's so funny. Yeah, it's really cool. I didn't expect it to be
34:18
that cool. That is way more unnecessarily cool than they have to be
34:23
about that. Yeah. Yeah. Really embracing it. And so like there are businesses in
34:28
there as well on the ground floor cuz there's like shops and stuff cuz it's
34:30
like a really big building and like the florist in there has photos in the
34:37
window now of characters holding I guess flowers that they've provided stuff like
34:42
that. It's just really cool. That's awesome. I I mean if if anybody's in the
34:45
area go check it out. It's really cool if you like severance. But the cuz you
34:50
hear people all the time like, "Oh, a tree from this [ __ ] you know, the
34:53
the tree from the from the opening credits of Six Feet Under was in some
34:57
guy's backyard and so many people wanted to take pictures of he ended up chopping
35:00
it down." You know what I mean? Like it's like the opposite. And then there's
35:04
these guys going, "Here's your [ __ ] watermelon head." Yeah, that's right.
35:08
Yeah. Should we put the lobby back the way it was? Nah. [ __ ] it. Just leave it.
35:11
Who cares? Yeah. Hey, it's still for those businesses. M we shot we we needed
35:17
a we needed a street like a um a really
35:21
really narrow street in um the Philippines to shoot a commercial for an
35:26
insurance company and um we we it was in
35:30
a really poor area and we literally got permission there by like bribing the
35:36
mayor with the equivalent of like 40 bucks, right? You know, like it was just
35:40
But then we had to cuz it's a commercial. Matt, you worked in
35:43
commercials. You know, you pick something that does that you go, "Yeah,
35:46
this is perfect." And then you completely redo it, right? So they
35:50
[ __ ] put all this scaffolding and they put [ __ ] all the bunting and
35:54
stuff everywhere to, you know, make it look like way more affluent than it was.
35:58
And at the end, like the crew went to take it down and the guys are like, "Can
36:02
can you please leave that up? Like this [ __ ] slum has never You've restored
36:06
this neighborhood." Yeah. You've increased the value of my property by
36:10
10fold. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I had the opposite of that at Breakfast Point
36:15
if you recall. Yes. Oh, yeah. Is that when you set fight? No, no, no. This is
36:20
Breakfast Point was a TV commercial for TK Maxx and it was the premise was that
36:26
every alternate house shops at TK Maxx so they have a fancy front yard and with
36:30
all nice stuff and then there's a boring one. But Breakfast Point, if people
36:34
don't know, is a like every house got to look exactly the [ __ ] same. It's one
36:38
of those places where it's like there are strict rules about things. So the
36:43
one of the things was you got to put everything back exactly as it was. And
36:47
then there were things like like they dinged us on stuff like this. Some of
36:51
that gravel is the wrong color cuz the art department had like put they gone
36:57
too far with certain things and then so we literally had somebody there [ __ ]
37:00
picking gravel out of the [ __ ] Oh god. driveway and stuff like crazy.
37:06
We we shot in this [ __ ] beautiful house somewhere on the beach like just
37:12
all windows and stuff and they had these big portraits, not paintings, so
37:16
photographs. So a print out, right? A photograph in huge thing and the wind
37:22
was roaring through. We probably should have paid better attention to what
37:26
windows were open and stuff, but one of these fell off and shattered. Um, and
37:31
like we're obviously we're like we're obviously going to have to pay for this,
37:35
you know, we'll take it out of the budget. But then they tried to they
37:39
tried to I don't know if they sued us or whether they were just trying to extort
37:43
money just basically saying that this was like a original I don't know how
37:47
they're going to be an original of a photograph but for some from some famous
37:51
artist and they ended up saying that we were somehow negligent or that we lied
37:56
that it came off in the wind and they actually their insurance company brought
38:00
in these huge fans to try to blow the other ones down to because they weren't.
38:04
Yeah. I wanted proof that you were messing around with it and trying to
38:08
move stuff that we put it Yeah. that we taken it down. Yeah. Like that guitar in um
38:14
Hatefully Story where smashed it. I
38:19
still do not understand why they had that guitar on set at all. Well, it's
38:25
authenticity. Just tell him though. Make sure you tell
38:30
him. Be very clear about all this stuff. Yeah. I know you meant to be smashing a
38:35
guitar soon, but this is not the one. I just love that that I mean I love it's
38:39
so so dodgy cuz they tell it was an accident and then they go see the
38:44
movie smashing the [ __ ] guitar in the movie.
38:48
Yeah. Yeah. Accident. Yeah. I mean in a sense. Um, on the topic of severance
38:55
still though, because I went to Lumen, I then
39:00
I I remembered that there's a podcast, the severance podcast with Ben Stiller
39:04
and Adam Scott. Oh, okay. And I just want to say I highly recommend it. It's
39:09
very very good. I will recommendation right now. They have the the writer and
39:15
one of the producers on the first episode. They have the actors on
39:19
throughout to talk about the show. They basically do a rewatch. So they discuss
39:24
each episode, but they had different guests on and stuff like that. Yeah. And
39:27
they talk about things like, as we mentioned before,
39:31
what do the innies know? Okay. And they were talking about how, you know, when
39:37
in when Hely wakes up and they do that, they're asking her questions like they
39:42
say, "Name a state." And she says, "Deaware." And then they ask her
39:46
personal questions and she's like, "I don't know." Like, "What's your name?" I
39:49
don't know. And then the the the writers like, "Yes." the they went through a lot
39:53
of iterations of the questions because the whole point is to say we need to
39:57
know what made it through. Yeah. Because they need to know enough to function but
40:02
not enough to operate a computer but I don't know how to contact my outside.
40:08
And then he also points out in the first episode Irving talks about how they
40:13
bleep the swear words in movies now. So he knows about that. Oh yeah. And like
40:17
so they but he said yeah people question it sometimes but they do think about
40:21
that quite carefully. We live on a dude ranch.
40:26
Yeah. And there's some really good um stories too like Adam Scott was talking
40:32
about how he got cast first cuz Ben Stiller really liked him in Step
40:36
Brothers and then told him if you can think of some other people Step Brothers
40:40
and that's not a very good movie. No, he's particularly good. He's excellent
40:44
in it. Yeah. So Ben Stiller said, "If you can think of any people you might
40:48
want to, you know, we could suggest for the other team members, let me know."
40:51
And then he goes, "Oh, I was for Irving. There's a guy I saw do a guest spot on
40:55
some show." And he was quite good and I thought he'd be good at Irving. And then
40:58
Benilla was like, "Yeah, I was thinking maybe John Turo." And he was like, "All
41:03
that?" Yeah. And then and then Ben says, "Funny you should say that because I was
41:09
I asked John Tuto. He said, "Yeah, I'll do it. Do you want to ask Christopher
41:12
Walkin if he'll do Bert?" He was like, "Yeah, yeah, sure." Jesus.
41:18
It's so funny that like Yeah. He said the point being that happens to
41:24
everybody in Hollywood at some point like it's just a
41:28
Right. Yeah. And then
41:31
I just Tutoro and Christopher Walkan is just one of my favorite things in that
41:38
show. Like Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's so so weird like Walkin
41:43
is in that. But when you think like Walkan's done, it's not like he's done
41:46
like everything he's done is great in his career, but he's up for it, you
41:49
know? You just you see I mean I still think his greatest role is in Joe Dirt,
41:53
you know, like that [ __ ] spoil slight spoilers for
41:59
season 2. That scene at the train station with the two of them so good.
42:04
Yeah. Like Yeah. And they're just such interesting actors, too. Like I'm going
42:09
to give it another try again. Have you got? Yeah. Yeah, you should.
42:14
Cuz you don't even need to skip ahead. You just need to start from the very
42:17
next one. Yeah. And if you don't like bottleneck episodes, also skip the one
42:22
about the wife. It's probably nothing you need to know in that one that you
42:26
don't get by them discussing it. Yeah. His wife. Okay. Do you find out why she's there and
42:33
stuff? Yes. But well, no. You find out why important. Well,
42:40
no. The other thing that makes me less wor, you know, I've mentioned a
42:45
couple times I'm kind of concerned about the direction like it's gotten very
42:48
focused on Mark and I was like, I don't know about that. But that is always
42:51
apparently like the plot of it has always been the plot of it like and when
42:56
they first they talk about how when they first saw it, it was quite different the
43:02
structure of it and the people and everything, but the the the like main
43:07
story has always been the story. So yeah, right. I guess that makes me worry
43:12
less about the fact that it's going somewhere, you know. Yeah. So they do
43:16
have they've got the like the main story worked out. It's just the bits and
43:19
pieces like that. They're still Yeah. the fleshing out. Yeah. They explore
43:23
stuff about Lumen and the law and all that kind of stuff. That's why they went
43:26
more. They didn't need to talk more about the goats. No, I agree with that.
43:31
But thankfully they don't come back to
43:34
Mimalius whatever except no that the go they made it a bit relevant in a way.
43:41
Yeah. But they don't go back to that
43:43
land. Yeah. That literal land. Yeah. Yes.
43:49
Good show. That that was weird. But yeah, re check out the podcast. It's
43:53
really good. Really interesting. And like and they're both three. It's
43:57
they're funny as hell, the two of them. So yeah, they are. Yeah. They have like
44:01
a 10-minute discussion about daylight savings time at the start, right? And
44:05
then at one point, Adam Scott's like, "Should we talk about severance?
44:10
Do they only do season two onwards? Cuz I'd love to hear season one." Yeah, it
44:15
starts at season one. Oh, [ __ ] Okay. Mhm. All right. Straight out then. Yeah.
44:20
I I need to check cuz they talk about Patricia Arquette a lot and I like I
44:25
really want to hear her talk about Coell because she's so like she's just great
44:31
like Yeah. Yeah, man. Patricia Aette
44:35
like when she was in Lost Highway Yeah.
44:38
and True Romance like [ __ ] hell.
44:44
All over. Yeah. She's still cool. Yeah. Speaking
44:50
of uh Quent and Tarantino. Yes. Is this
44:55
real? Cuz I saw this on July 1st and thought it was a joke. They they
45:01
addressed that too. They said, "Oh, sorry. Shouldn't have done it today."
45:04
But yeah, it is real. Amazing. Right. Right. So, what's happening?
45:09
Well, uh you've you know Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Yes. The movie.
45:15
You're familiar with the movie? I know of it. There's going to be a sequel
45:20
about Brad Pitt's character or sequel or prequel or something a spin-off based on
45:24
Brad Pitt's character directed by David Fincher. Apparently, it's it's happening. Quinton
45:31
Tarot is writing it. Finch is directing it. Brad Pit starring in it. I mean, I'm
45:36
all in. Of course, I'm also confused, but then again, I suppose it's not the
45:40
first time he's come in and directed a sequel, but it is like when he was doing
45:44
that. Yeah. I mean, good on him, but yeah, wouldn't have picked. But also,
45:50
it's kind of a comedy. Does David Fincher do funny?
45:54
Don't know. We're going to find out. Or is this going to be real [ __ ] dark
45:59
and an explanation of what it means to be a man? I mean, there'll almost certainly be
46:05
some of that. Yeah.
46:10
Thought they announced it on um April Fool's. Yeah. Well, that's when I saw it
46:17
and then I was like, uh, very funny, guys. Like, yeah, it says initially
46:21
dismissed by some as an April Fool's joke. It has turned out to be real.
46:24
They've said no. It's funny that they say that. So, clearly I'm not the only
46:27
one who thought that. Yeah. And um, Leonardo DiCaprio and
46:33
Margar Robbie are not confirmed to be in it, but Margaret Robbiey's
46:37
representatives have said she's available, which of course, well, you'd
46:41
want to be in this, I assume. Yeah.
46:45
And spoilers, she survives this movie.
46:49
That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
46:54
All right. I might watch it one day. Have you watched one time in once time
47:00
in Hollywood? It's very Oh, on the subject of you watching stuff, did you
47:04
watch it? It's packed away. Can't find it. You wouldn't. Yeah, it's packed away
47:09
inside your [ __ ] Xbox.
47:14
Bal Kilmer skips another week. Packed away. I will find it.
47:20
He's not even convince you until until you watch. Although I did watch I did
47:25
watch a trailer for it. I do want to watch it cuz I think I will really enjoy
47:28
it. I like it. You're like, I bet I bet this isn't even a movie I would like.
47:32
Why do you think I've been telling you specific? I'm not like [ __ ] go and
47:36
watch it. He'll think it's fine. You will really like it. It's It was a
47:41
trivia question this week. Actually, the the question was, see if you guys know
47:45
this. Luke obviously won't know it because he has seen it, but I hadn't
47:49
seen it either, but I still figured it out from the name. Mhm. Val Kilmer uh
47:55
wor originally worked with this British actor in Top Secret and then reunited
47:59
with him 11 years later. The actor is Michael Go or Gooff. Yes. What movie was
48:04
he in? Correct. What was Alfred? Yeah.
48:10
Alfred's in it. Yeah. I was like, "Oh, I don't know." And then they said the name
48:14
and I was like, "Oh, I know who that is." Yeah. Yeah. That's one of those
48:17
[ __ ] weird Batman facts that's in there. But it's weird. They went like
48:21
top secret. You think that that question would have worked better the other way
48:24
around to make it trickier. Yes, 100%. I find trivia
48:30
questions to be like that sometimes where I'm like, "Why'd you write it that
48:34
way?" Pretty much just the answer. Yeah. But whatever. Um, have you noticed
48:38
though everyone's coming out going, "Ah, he was the best Batman though. Can we
48:43
admit that?" And it's like, "Sorry, I know he's just died." And I love that
48:48
movie. Yeah, I love that movie, but he's
48:50
not. And no one's Adam for 30 years. I
48:56
saw that at the movies and I remember it's almost like
49:00
it's I was like, "Oh, I liked that." But
49:03
I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. M I can it was like how I see why they are
49:09
where they didn't put Robin in the other ones. Yeah. Yeah. Tim Burton ones and
49:15
like Michael Schumacher. Michael Schumacher. Joel Schumacher.
49:22
Tim. Well, not now, but back in the day.
49:25
Yeah. No. Direct a movie. Uh no.
49:30
It'll be slow. Um, the Joel Schumacher
49:34
has made some very good movies, but he is also high camp. And I guess you could
49:41
argue that that works with Batman. He was the one who put nipples on the suit,
49:44
wasn't he? Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I mean, he did it on purpose.
49:50
It's not like it was like, you know, like he made an actual choice to do it.
49:54
He wasn't trying to make a serious dark movie and was mistakenly thought the
49:58
nipples would fit the theme kind of thing. No, he was trying to make a show,
50:02
a movie that had nipples on. [ __ ] is over there going, "Nice to meet you."
50:08
Do not put me in the cooler.
50:14
Yeah. Yeah. It's just a completely different tone.
50:19
Yeah. Are they making a sequel to the 1989 Batman? There's a comic sequel. Oh, it's a book
50:26
sequel. Yeah. Oh, there is a sequel. It's called Batman Returns. Oh, I know. But are they
50:30
making a sequel to that? It's I don't know. That's I hear that every now and
50:33
again. Yeah. Yeah, there's Well, there's a book and then uh that I have that I've
50:37
not read yet. Uh and then there's a sequel to that book coming out. Oh, yes.
50:41
Okay. Are these on Audible? I bet they'd be great audio books. Yeah, I'm going to
50:46
look at that. Look at that. I think it's just I think it's literally just a
50:51
sequel to the first film, too. I don't think it actually includes Batman
50:54
Returns cuz that Batman Returns did go to tonally very different. Oh yeah,
50:59
that's I love Batman Returns. I love it. I like it for what it is. Yeah, but like
51:05
it's it's Tim Burton. They were like, "You can do what you want." Batman was
51:11
great. And then and then they were like, "Oh, [ __ ] We should have let him
51:17
um it's like I've got this one playlist
51:20
on my phone on my Spotify of like '9s
51:25
era and early 2000s like old rock and stuff, right? And some songs come on,
51:31
I'm like, "Fuck, this still holds up." But anytime a corn song comes on, I'm
51:37
like, "I still like this, but just for nostalgia." Sure. Like it just if this
51:42
came out today, people be like, "What is that?" Yeah.
51:48
Yeah. Great band though. But yeah, I mean, and heaps of other bands around
51:53
that time. Yeah, I bet they are. Well, we don't get their original lineup now,
51:57
aren't they? Yeah. Heads back. Yeah. Well, not the drummer. Sorry. No, David
52:01
SA retired. All right. Oh, one thing. I was listening, you might know this,
52:05
Matt. I was listening to uh Blimp Biscuit on the same playlist this week.
52:10
Right. Are there two guitarists in that band or do they just Luke West Borland
52:14
in playing all the guitar parts on the albums? Yeah, I figured it must be.
52:19
Yeah, cuz otherwise it' just be somebody else as good as him, right? No. No. Just
52:25
cuz in Counterfeit there's just so many different Oh, yeah. Parts going at the
52:30
same time. Yeah. No, it's just we layered.
52:36
Yep. Yep. Um, I watched a true crime this week.
52:41
Uh, and it was, it's a slightly interesting story because it was
52:44
triggered by we were driving home from Boston. Why were we in Boston? I don't
52:50
recall. Tea Party. Oh, when we went to the the Bluey thing with LRA. Oh, yeah.
52:56
So, we're driving back and on an overpass, we see a bunch of people
52:59
holding signs that say free Karen Reed. Ah, yes. I'll take her. Yeah, I'll take
53:04
her. And we're like, what's that about? So, Jenna looked it up and was like,
53:07
"Oh, it's an ongoing court case about a murder or
53:11
well, a death." And uh and then there's a HBO documentary that's just come out a
53:17
couple weeks ago about it. Luke's familiar with it. It sounds like I am.
53:20
Yes. I've known you watch it. Uh no, I haven't watched that. I've been
53:23
following um there are some YouTubers out there. Yeah. Okay. One called Turtle
53:27
Boy that he's in the documentary. He's a documentary that's been on her side.
53:32
He's actually I don't know if he's still in jail or is he going to jail for
53:36
campus witness uh witness tampering and Jesus. Okay. Did you say tamper
53:41
witnessing? Because I'm going to I'm going to write that down and then I'm
53:44
going to get going of Florida. Tampa witnessing. Yes. Um tamper witnessing.
53:50
So the gist of it this is a it's I think it's very interesting. The the
53:53
documentary is on HBO. It's called A Body in the Snow. And it's basically
53:56
what happened. The gist of it is there's a couple, one of them's a Boston police
54:00
officer, the other one is this woman, Karen Reed. They're in a relationship.
54:04
Um, they go out one night with a bunch of friends who are all law enforcement
54:08
adjacent people. So, there's police officers and like an ATF agent. All
54:12
these people are all kind of cop related. Mhm. They go out, they're all
54:16
drinking. One of them says some police sergeant says, "Let's bars closing. Do
54:21
you want to come back? Everybody come back to my house. We'll have some more
54:22
drinks." So everybody is and there's a blizzard going on. Everybody drives
54:27
home, everybody's kind of drunk, like no no getting around that. Uh when Karen
54:34
and John get there, there's some question about what exactly happens, but
54:39
they were kind of having a bit of an argument or whatever. He gets out of the car.
54:44
It's quite unclear what happens next, but she leaves. Mhm. Goes home, wakes up
54:51
in the morning. He's dead in the snow. That's the gist of it. And the question
54:56
is, what happened to him? And the
55:00
immediate thing is that she thinks at first it's all very confusing, but
55:06
basically it's like, did she hit him with the car or as the defense is
55:12
alleging, was he murdered by the people in the house, all the police people who
55:18
then covered it up? Oh, that's the gist of the story. And it's like quite Do the
55:24
people who say free her think it's a conspiracy? Yes. I Well, see, I think
55:29
that's Is it more likely that it's a conspiracy or an accident with a car? I
55:34
think it's tough because there's it's hard because the the the the accident
55:40
story doesn't actually make sense either when you look at all the evidence. Like,
55:43
it's it's very confusing like how like we don't have to go into the specifics.
55:49
people should watch it. But I just question like the version that they're
55:53
saying this is what happened. It's like that doesn't make any sense. Like how
55:58
would he have how would he have gotten there in the snow? Why did nobody see
56:01
him? Like there's just a lot of stuff where it's like I don't know, man. And
56:06
then but then yeah, you're right. Like there's like 10 people involved in this
56:10
[ __ ] cover up are all cops. It seems unlikely that they would all
56:15
but again it's not impossible. So maybe, yeah, but the more people you have in on
56:21
something like that, that's what I always think too. All 10 of them have on
56:26
the line, Making a Murder and they're
56:30
very paranoid cuz Making a Murderer played a lot like pretty loosey goosey
56:36
with the facts when you follow it up and it's like it's actually does seem like
56:40
he probably killed Theresa Hullbeck. Yeah. Like there's but the cops did a
56:45
really bad job investigating. You probably killed a lot of other people.
56:49
The cops just did a bad job. And in this case, too, the cops did a terrible job
56:53
cuz it was a there's a blizzard. They couldn't get the proper investigations
56:56
team there. They were using a [ __ ] snowb blower to clear the snow where the
56:59
body was. It's just bits of [ __ ] stuff going everywhere. It's just a
57:02
disaster. Like Jesus. And everybody
57:07
involved is a cop and they all know each other. And it's just like so easy to
57:12
say, well, you really shouldn't have been involved. But like Yeah. How do you
57:16
deal with that? Like they're all cops. So anyway, interesting and worth
57:23
checking out. I just don't know what to make of it to be honest. Is on Netolixu.
57:28
It's on HBO here. I don't know where it would be. So I'm not quite sure what HBO
57:33
HBO is sort of a bit of a mix sometimes. That's what I mean. I'm not sure how it
57:36
works down there. Not soon. They've got they're launching here soon. Oh, yay.
57:40
Another streaming service.
57:45
But yes, interesting. Oh yeah, she's a very um she seems very she likes the
57:52
attention which doesn't help either. It's all very like oh prime
57:59
currently unavailable. So [ __ ] oh but the sorry the spoilers the first trial
58:04
was declared a mistrial because the jury was just like we have no [ __ ] idea
58:08
like none of this makes any sense. Basically, they can't agree. And uh and
58:13
so now there's a new trial happening this month, which I guess is why they're
58:18
getting the documentary out. Yeah, I I only know from the Turtle Boy
58:22
stuff cuz I sometimes watch I did hear that there's some new evidence that's
58:26
come out since that doesn't look good for her in the This is the other thing
58:30
that's weird though, right? They charged her with murder and I'm like, well,
58:33
surely it was an accident if anything, right? Like even your murder. Yeah. I
58:39
don't know why they're going for murder. Yeah. You think you go for manslaughter,
58:42
which is that's Yeah, that's the other charge. But it's like they're going for
58:46
seconddegree murder. It's like they think she did it on purpose
58:50
accidentally. Like what? I don't get it. So I can see why the jury didn't get it
58:54
cuz I don't [ __ ] get it. Matt, did you watch the second season of The Jinx?
58:58
No, I've got to do that. This reminded me that that's on there, too. Oh, yes.
59:02
So just just to to to wet your whistle as it were and this is not a spoiler
59:07
because this is the opening scene of this first episode in the second season
59:12
before it's footage of the room where
59:16
all the people interviewed in the first season are watching the final episode of
59:22
the first season not knowing what happens. Right.
59:27
And so the people that tried him and all of that like watching him confess while
59:33
he's taking a piss. Yeah. Cuz I was like, "Where can it go from
59:38
here?" Oh, no. That's quite That's quite compelling content.
59:42
Yeah. It's incredible. There's also And all because he wanted to do stuff like
59:47
Yeah. He's got away with it. He reached out to them. Yeah. Yep. Had gotten away
59:52
with it. Yeah. He literally he literally could have just let it go. Yeah. Y
59:58
yeah. Um but there's also a bit where there's an interview like just a normal
1:00:02
a normal scene and then it the camera pans out and the assistants run in going
1:00:08
um he's
1:00:10
dead and uh and the interview is like oh
1:00:15
we might stop here then. [ __ ] hell cuz he died while they were making it. Yeah. Yeah.
1:00:21
Yeah. But they they show they show the moment in the in the it's great. I
1:00:26
almost feel like I have to watch re-watch the first one. I did. I did.
1:00:30
Yeah. And then watch the second one. I did too. I started watching the first
1:00:32
one. That series the first time I watched it like as a documentary
1:00:38
filmmaker that must have been like the greatest Yeah. day of their life. Like
1:00:43
in a in a weird cuz it's not a nice thing, right? But
1:00:47
but to have realized you have a record but they knew that it was soaked into
1:00:53
murder. Yeah, but they asked the cops not to arrest him until the next day.
1:00:58
They knew they were on to something so good. We've got evidence for you, but
1:01:02
you have to let this air first. Don't take this away from us. Yeah,
1:01:09
that's right. This is a [ __ ] unicorn. So imagine being the [ __ ] sound
1:01:13
recordist and you're just sitting there and you're like Well, it reminds me also.
1:01:19
Yeah. [ __ ] hell. Yeah, cuz I've I've like
1:01:24
that's parodyied in a lot of shows like people badmouth people while they're on
1:01:28
it. But that happens all the time. Yeah. Like constantly. He does Sorry. He does
1:01:34
it earlier in in the documentary, too. He has a seeming like I mean I guess if
1:01:40
you're not used to Oh yeah. Yeah. Cuz the the assistant comes in and goes you
1:01:43
need to stop talking about Yeah. Stop talking. You've got a microphone on like
1:01:47
what you also don't forget like I'll be sitting with clients in video village
1:01:50
right and they'll be like oh can you change this like oh no it's going to be
1:01:54
don't make me ask her to do it like that. No no you have to. She has to say
1:01:57
let's fine. And then I'll go up to her and I'll say these [ __ ] over
1:02:03
there. Then I get back and they're like, you know, when you're talking directly
1:02:06
to her, you're talking into her mic. We can all Yeah.
1:02:13
And then you can say, I know, I know. It's just And then she's like, you know, when
1:02:18
you're talking to them, they've got microphones on. You're all [ __ ] I [ __ ] hate you
1:02:25
all. Right. You know where there's no [ __ ]
1:02:32
wits? The afterparty. Is that true? Sometimes there are. Yeah, that's that's where we
1:02:38
talk mainly about [ __ ] No, we got our [ __ ] news done with JK Rowling.
1:02:43
Do you know what I've told you? Make me a man. Do not under any circumstances
1:02:47
let Neil Gaiman in this week cuz Luke is a sick of him and as far as I'm aware.
1:02:52
But you know what he's you know what he's going to do Matt? He's just gonna
1:02:54
come in the back door. Like an eye on I know he's we're gonna get in there. He's
1:03:00
gonna be in the bath waiting. Yeah, but we'll see. I've told them. Keep an
1:03:06
eye out. Please know. But what's the afterparty?
1:03:11
Oh, the after party is a more show. Yeah, we'll keep talking for another
1:03:15
like 10 to 15 an hour depending how we feel. Whatever we want to do. We've
1:03:21
twice now done one longer than the main show. Yeah, we do have quite a lot of
1:03:25
stuff we could talk about. So, a lot of people andor things have died this week.
1:03:29
Yes. Yes. And that's why we cover them. I know one of them is not getting geek
1:03:32
of a week. Oo. I mean, it had its
1:03:35
chance. Yep. It's its own fault. If you want to know what he's talking
1:03:41
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1:03:46
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1:03:50
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month is where you get the extra content. Yeah, the extra content and you
1:03:59
can go for five you pay five bucks now, you can get all the old ones as well. If
1:04:02
you want to do that, that's fine. Go ahead. There's like Yeah. If you want
1:04:07
after parties at this point, really? Yeah. Yeah. You want to spend one night
1:04:10
listening to 100 after parties and then just cancel it? You could do that.
1:04:14
But you could do it. Yeah. I mean, I've done it for other podcasts, so you
1:04:19
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