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Random Heathen Ramblings: S4, EP46 - Season Finale with Patrick Walsh · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  Hello everyone and welcome to the Random Heathen Ramblings
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  podcast where we discuss all sorts of things Germanic heathen
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  All right folks, here we are. You and I, me and you, us and
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  them. They and all of humanity both
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  seen and unseen at the end of season 4 Today.
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  This episode is the season finale of of season four.
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  Had quite a quite a busy year here on the podcast and a busy
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  So today is the season finale, like I said and I've got Patrick
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  Walsh about to join me here in just a moment and I'm always,
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  you know, eager and excited to to talk to him and just kind of
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  hear what's going on in his life.
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  Really don't have anything particular planned on the the
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  we're just going to wing it. We're just going to kind of roll
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  with the punches and see what he and I have to get into, you
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  know, So maybe we get into some fun things for the next hour or
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  do that. So let's go ahead and welcome in
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  Patrick Walsh to the Random Heathen Ramblings Podcast Season
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  4 finale. Let's get him in here and here
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  he is, the Man of the Hour, the Man of the Year.
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  Oh, not too much about you. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm stoked about
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  wrapping up season four this year.
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  I'm stoked to have you here to to kind of sign everybody off,
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  you know, sign us off sign the sign the, the podcast off for
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  the year. I was thinking about this
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  earlier, how it seems like it was just this past week that
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  season four started and here we are already, you know, end of
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  the month well middle of the month end of the year.
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  Wrapping it up for for this season.
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  It's it's like where is where's the time gone?
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  You know, it's it always boggles my mind just how seemingly like
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  quicker things tend to to pass here these days.
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  Exactly. It's a tricky that knowing that
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  Christmas and New Year's and all the other celebrations are just
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  running around the corner and we have the winter solstice
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  occurring. And how many days was it?
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  Like three or three days. Well, it's the 18th, I think
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  it's it starts on the 21st, right?
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  Yeah. Is that the?
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  Is that the official date of the of the winter?
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  So, so I think it starts like 10 something at night, local time
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  or whatever. Yeah, Marissa.
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  Yeah, Papa made a post about that.
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  Yep, Yep. And then the day after that,
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  we've got our Fire on the Mountain live stream like Q&A
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  panel thing here. It'll be streaming here on,
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  well, it'll be streaming on Facebook.
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  It'll be streaming on YouTube I guess.
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  It might go to your group too, I hope.
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  Yeah, I'm sure it will. Because I got, I know I got it
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  set to my page in the in the YouTube channel and you know Sid
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  will be there so he'll probably be sending it to to his groups
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  and you can send it to your groups and we'll get hopefully
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  get a nice turn out. So yeah, for everybody listening
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  today, you know when you guys are listening to this, you know
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  Thursday, tomorrow, the 22nd, right.
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  That's the yeah, 22nd, 7:00 PM Central Time.
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  Come join me and Patrick and Papa, Olufsen and Zeb from
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  Skoger Mayor and my my, my Go the Wolf and and Sid from Inner
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  Demon Media. What about Patrick?
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  Yeah I you know he he didn't confirm or reject the attendance
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  but you know it'll it'll go out the invite will go out and and
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  if he can come I'm sure he'll be there but I don't know you I
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  don't know if you saw but he's he's got he's he's he's got a
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  quite a a lifestyle change coming up.
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  His hands are a little full right now.
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  Yeah, yeah, you know and and then we've got our, we've got
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  our Yule thing coming up, you know just next month and a
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  little over a month now. So, yeah, you looking forward
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  to. That, oh, absolutely.
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  I was just about to say that right now plans are still
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  somewhat up in the air. There's some really good ideas
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  floating about and just trying to, you know, go from there.
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  Nice how how how is it how's it well for us you know we we we
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  you know we we keep it small for for us.
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  You know, I was, I was scrolling through Facebook and I saw some
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  like another local heathen witchy kind of group.
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  It's called every Witch Way. But witch is spelled like the
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  witch not not a every which way. Every which way.
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  Every which way. And it's like in East Tennessee,
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  about an hour or so I used to hear, but somebody was posted in
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  there like, yeah, I haven't seen anything going on for people you
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  know like a public Yule event. And I thought, well, that's that
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  kind of tracks because I know for a lot of folks when it comes
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  to the Yule time of year, whether you're starting your
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  Yule festivities in December during, you know, when, when the
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  moon cycles, you know start and and end right.
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  I think we can. We know that like the historical
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  heathen Yule doesn't happen until the first full moon, which
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  is the first full moon after the first new moon following the
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  winter solstice. But December like this time of
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  year still is is the Yuletide right like it we're we're we're
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  kind of entering into that mid winter cycle of of the months
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  and so for a lot of people this is a you know a time of year
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  around the solstice and hereafter when when things start
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  kicking in form. But as far as like public Yule
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  events, I I haven't. I know a lot of people tend to
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  focus. They're more insular with their
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  Yule celebrations. You know, very closed off in
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  private versus big public to do's, you know what I mean?
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  Which makes sense because I think for a lot of us when we
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  are in this time of year, we're we're more focused on our inner
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  tribal relationships, our family activities.
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  You know, all of that energy is being spent with those people,
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  right. Versus planning a big public
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  attendance sort of thing, yeah, but so our our.
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  Sorry, go ahead. No, no, you're good.
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  I. Was going to say when I first
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  started practicing as a Pagan, I was traditionally celebrating in
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  December, been doing the the 12 Nights of Yule, you know,
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  tradition and that didn't last very long.
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  It was up until, I think, Matthew Petry, he would do the
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  12 nights, if I'm not mistaken, at some point and then
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  afterwards, huh? I started off that kind of way
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  too. OK, yeah.
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  But then gradually got into the more historical aspect and
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  that's where my my bro Cliff and I for the last few years, we we
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  meet up at his place and do kind of like a three nights of the
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  old celebration and you know, do that kind of thing.
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  That's cool. I don't know.
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  I know. You know, So, like, for us, when
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  when we plan around our holy tides, the weekends tend to be
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  more convenient for folks to to meet and do stuff on just
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  because of most people's work schedules.
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  You know, like they don't have to worry about losing a day of
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  work or using vacation or PTO or something like that because not
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  everybody has that convenience or luxury.
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  I get that. So.
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  But like I think when when when we hit our Yule celebration in
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  January, we're actually holding it on the last night of Yule
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  instead of the first night of Yule because the three nights of
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  Yule starts on like a on a Thursday or something, you know.
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  Yeah. So like the full moon's on a
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  Thursday and then we're not doing our thing till that
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  Saturday. So we are technically starting
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  on the last night of the Yule, the the three night long Yule
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  celebration. But it's close enough.
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  You know in in the past we've we've you know here recently
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  like we've kind of it's just how it's just so happened to land a
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  full moon has landed you know either the first or second night
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  on a weekend so it's kind of been cool to have that happen
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  where you know you're not like a week or two off the cycle from
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  when the thing actually happened.
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  So but in the past right we've we've done it to where you know
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  we'll we'll figure out well do we want to do it a week before
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  or a week after if if the the full moon lands on like a Monday
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  or a Tuesday you know we'll we'll we'll we'll think around
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  it or OK do we want to start our thing on that weekend before the
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  full moon or or after. And typically I think we've
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  we've gravitated towards starting it early, you know
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  getting a little bit start on things.
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  But yeah, it's just you know kind of how it works for our
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  little group here and it is very closed off.
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  We keep our, we keep our ceremonies and stuff private.
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  I think what we're planning on doing this year is is inviting
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  some folks that aren't part of the group to partake of our
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  feast, right come over and have a have a bite to eat with us.
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  But we're going to keep like the ritual part of things just for
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  us kind of protect that that luck, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, the inner guard in our inner yard.
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  Outer yard. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  In and guard Uttongard. You know, we want to we want to
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  have, you know, we want people to know that this is a place
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  that they're welcome. You know, that clearly folk the
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  tribe, right? Like that.
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  It's a welcoming sort of thing. And at the same time, we also
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  want to keep our gates guarded and and make sure that we're not
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  just letting anybody and everybody, you know, partake of
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  things like ritual with us without having them first, First
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  of all established that they want to be a part of something
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  like that. And hadn't gone through the
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  Worthing process to establish that they're that that that it's
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  a safe and a good thing for them to be a part of it, you know?
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  Absolutely. But.
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  It's like anytime when I was celebrating by myself, I was
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  always, you know, doing it, solitary, practitioning, just,
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  you know, I'd always do it privately though, you know, I'd
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  always make sure that was either home alone or just, you know,
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  wouldn't be disturbed for that duration of time.
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  Yeah, yeah. So you think you're going to to
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  Cliffs, you guys talked about that or?
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  Oh yeah, like I said, you know, it's all up in there.
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  There's some things floating around, so trying to figure
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  those things out. Be here before we know it.
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  Yeah, I know. It's crazy.
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  Yeah. That'd be nice just to get past
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  Christmas and all that stuff too, because, you know, it could
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  be a depressing and difficult time for anybody.
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  Like, for example, like, I'm not sure what the real pity party
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  but basically is. So Christmas Eve is when I'll
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  have the opportunity to spend time with my family and actually
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  get this, you know, hang out with them, whereas Christmas
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  Day, there's really nothing going on.
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  So I'm more than likely be by myself or maybe visit my mom and
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  stepdad, but it's just not as traditional, as wholesome as it
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  used to be. Is like, especially when we're
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  younger and kids add a whole new element to it, a whole new
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  energy that this minute, you know, really bad ass.
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  But you know that this typically happens, especially when it
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  first knew into the Pagan path. Everything is just very fresh,
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  very, you know, invigorating. Whereas over time, it's like you
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  go to that burnout phase where sometimes one ULE sees better
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  than the other, ule or whatever celebration or tie that you know
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  you're participating in. Yeah, I always look forward to
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  the the Yule time though because first of all it's like probably
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  one of our of one of our like holiest of tides.
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  You know what I mean it it's it's kind of out of all three of
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  the historical holy tides like Yule is the big one.
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  And and regardless of things that you know have happened
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  leading up to it, it's kind of like one of those moments where
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  you feel refreshed to be around you know your loved ones and eat
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  good food and and exchange gifts.
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  Like we we've we what we've done in the past is like we'll do
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  like like a dirty Santa kind of game you know what I mean?
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  Where everybody buys something and and we we do that whole you
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  know I think last last year we called it something like naughty
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  naughty Nisa, like the Nisa or like the like the the the gnome
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  folk or whatever. You know like the Veytir kind of
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  like the the Norwegian little like that's a name for the
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  they're like again it's Nisa but it means like a gnome or a
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  spirit of the home you know sort of thing.
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  So we called instead of it calling it like Dirty Santa we
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  called it Naughty Nisa. But then we started.
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  I started thinking about, I'm like, that sounds too much like
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  my wife's name, like Nessa. Oh, Nessa, yeah.
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  And then we're like, no, no, no, no.
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  We don't want to call that that again and get people the wrong
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  idea, you know? Isn't there a high lung song
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  called Nessa, if I'm not mistaken or on Mesa?
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  You're asking the wrong one, but you would know I was going.
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  To say, yeah, I think there is, yeah, it's the new, IT sounds
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  like. There's, yeah.
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  Or nesso or. Nesso, I think is the one.
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  Yeah. I think that's.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  I got those two confused. Close, close.
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  Yeah, very. Close.
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  Yeah. Speaking of which, they're they
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  they're coming back to do the Red Rocks thing next year, huh?
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  That is correct. You going?
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  Yes, most certainly. I I'll tell you what that was.
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  That was quite the story. So I saw that there's going to
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  pre a pre sale available. So I'm like well obviously I'm
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  going to seek that opportunity the second I get it.
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  Well, during that day I just kind of you know, slipped my
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  mind strangely enough. But then I was later in the day,
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  I saw a post, I went on high loan groups and I guess somebody
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  said it wrong or just confused me, but it basically sounded
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  like they're sold out. I'm like, that's insane because
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  officially the tickets were going to be released the day
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  after, obviously. So I'm just like freaking out.
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  I'm talking to my my friend. I'm like, Oh my God, this is
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  this is this can't be right. So I looked on the website.
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  And they figured out that the tickets were still on sale.
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  But now here's the strange thing about pre sale tickets and how
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  this works. I think this is my my first time
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  doing a pre sale, but I got on there and there's like
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  reservation 1-2 and I think 1/3 which is general mission and the
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  top tier was no longer available.
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  Go figure. And then the second one was kind
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  of like rows like, I don't know, like 8 to like 20 or something
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  like that or 25. And then it just randomly
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  assigned you the best seat available.
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  I'm like, huh, 'cause I was hoping to at least have some
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  kind of like chill or choice as to what where I'm going to sit.
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  So then I got it randomly assigned row 21, which isn't
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  terrible. It's not bad.
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  I mean, last year, last time I was at Rd.
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  Rocks, I was at Row 8, which is a phenomenal spot.
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  But yeah, so then then I think it's like the day after or two
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  days afterwards I went back on the website to figure out, you
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  know, how the selection went and you could choose your seats.
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  But some of it was kind of tricky because like for example,
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  I went back to look for a closer spot and I see that there's one
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  spot I want to be had to buy. Two tickets, not one you
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  couldn't buy. Just one ticket for the area
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  that you want to be in. No, you couldn't.
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  Now if you go higher up until like, General Mission, then yes,
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  you could probably more than likely be able to choose one
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  specific spot. But when he got down further
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  closer to the stage, it wasn't like that.
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  It was just like stupid as shit. Wasn't happy about that, buddy.
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  I'm just happy I got a ticket. So you know, it's going to be
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  one for the books for sure. This is ever since people saw
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  the footage and you know, stuff from the first Red Rocks
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  rituals. It's incredible.
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  I mean, it's the perfect time of year is in October and this time
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  around it's going to be in April, which is badass because
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  it's like literally days away from my birthday.
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  I'm like, that's crazy as hell. So I'll be happy.
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  It's like my little early birthday gift myself.
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  Is, and that's an the Red Rocks venue.
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  It's outdoors, isn't it? Yes, it's probably the best
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  venue I'll ever visit. Go there bump.
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  Make sure you dress appropriately because April can
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  be, can be still really cold in Colorado.
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  Yeah, like you can. I mean, I remember being in
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  Colorado for work and it was June and it was in the higher
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  elevations, like up in the mountains, but it was snowing
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  like not, not a little bit like it was, it was, it was a
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  Blizzard in June and then you came down the mountain and it
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  would be like, you know, in the 60s or something, you know.
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  But yeah, you never know. April can still be pretty.
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  It can still be pretty. Are you going to be driving or
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  are you going to fly in there? I'm going to be flying.
• 23:15
  I I thought about drive before, but just anytime I had to drive
• 23:18
  a long distance. I mean, you know, this first
• 23:20
  hand, you know? Yeah, I'd be a hell of a drive.
• 23:23
  It by car wouldn't be able to survive it.
• 23:25
  It can't even survive like an hour or three hours to like
• 23:28
  Indiana or wherever else they choose to go.
• 23:30
  So, well, fortunately for now, if I want to travel far, I have
• 23:33
  to rent a car, which isn't bad because when I went to go visit
• 23:36
  you and fire the mountain and I was just like, Oh my God, like
• 23:39
  this car is amazing, but right. But yeah, I'm going to be
• 23:43
  staying with one of my friends that lives out there and she's
• 23:46
  really cool. I got the hang out with her and
• 23:47
  her husband back in 2021 when I went through Red Rocks my first
• 23:52
  time. And yeah.
• 23:54
  Did you meet them through the Facebook group?
• 23:57
  Yeah, the highly exhaust spiritual group, yes.
• 24:01
  I mean. I actually get a lot of great
• 24:02
  people. Yeah, a lot of great people I've
• 24:04
  met on that website. And Flip is exactly an example
• 24:07
  of one of those people, as well as countless other friends I
• 24:10
  have on Facebook. You know, odds are a lot of them
• 24:13
  are probably watching this you know podcast.
• 24:15
  So. Hell yeah, I love that.
• 24:18
  You know the thing about social media, because I've talked you
• 24:22
  know, a number of times just how toxic it can be and what what a,
• 24:27
  you know, a cesspool social media can turn into.
• 24:30
  But stuff like this is, is what I love to see.
• 24:33
  You know, the the benefits of of social media shining through.
• 24:37
  You know, people that connect over long distance and then when
• 24:41
  they go to travel, they're not having to worry about spending
• 24:46
  extra money if they don't want to on lodging.
• 24:49
  You know there's there's kind hearted people that are like no,
• 24:52
  you you can stay with me or us, you know what I mean?
• 24:55
  And and that's a relief 'cause, you know, hotels ain't cheap
• 24:58
  either and it's already, you know, I don't know what the Red
• 25:01
  Rocks tickets cost but I know what I spent this year to see
• 25:04
  high lung with my wife and I and I don't know like I'm I've, I
• 25:11
  can't think of a time that I've dropped that much money to see a
• 25:14
  performance. You know what I mean?
• 25:16
  So I know like as big of a of a of a crowd that high lung can
• 25:22
  can draw, you know Red Rocks is going to sell out if it hasn't
• 25:27
  already it's. Just a matter of time, Yeah, I I
• 25:31
  every now and again when I'm bored, I'll just look at what
• 25:33
  seats are available. And it's just like one day I saw
• 25:36
  a really good spot that I was talking about and literally the
• 25:39
  next day was gone. Now there's plenty of resales,
• 25:42
  but those sell for like, they're scalpers.
• 25:45
  They're just selling like obnoxiously expensive and. $1000
• 25:49
  a ticket or some. Stupid.
• 25:50
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
• 25:51
  Over. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:52
  Actually, right around 1001 of my friends sent me a a
• 25:55
  screenshot. He was just entertaining the
• 25:57
  idea of getting a really good seat.
• 25:59
  And that's the thing about the presale too, is I feel like a
• 26:01
  lot of the scalpers were oh, I know for all the scalpers were
• 26:04
  there for that, like the second they released that, you know,
• 26:08
  presale and then they just hopped on that and just those
• 26:11
  are the not so great people. I mean especially people who go
• 26:16
  ahead. Well, no, I didn't.
• 26:19
  I was gonna say I wish there was a way to, like, stop that or
• 26:24
  outlaw it, make it illegal or something, 'cause that's, that's
• 26:26
  terrible. You know that, 'cause you know,
• 26:28
  that ain't the ban. That ain't the production, That
• 26:30
  ain't the ban. You know, you know what I mean?
• 26:32
  Like, they're not gonna charge people $1000 to come see them,
• 26:35
  you know what I mean? Like, they got to make, they got
• 26:38
  to make their money. Obviously, they got to earn
• 26:40
  their living. And I'm not saying it isn't
• 26:42
  worth it, but at the same time, when you know that you know a
• 26:46
  ticket that should only be, you know, a hundred, $200, whatever,
• 26:50
  even if it's right there in front of.
• 26:51
  Them it's. Going for like 8 times that
• 26:54
  amount or 10 you know whatever the OK, you know like come.
• 26:57
  On oh, it's insane. Yeah.
• 26:59
  And there are people in the Senate.
• 27:02
  Well, that's just it. They the the the scalpers.
• 27:04
  Like they, the band's, not the band's making what they make
• 27:09
  from the sales. And then the scalpers are
• 27:10
  turning around and and and taking advantage of people
• 27:17
  'cause like you said, they know that people will pay it.
• 27:22
  I remember one time this wasn't a it wasn't a High Lung concert,
• 27:26
  it was Tool. And Tool was coming to Nashville
• 27:32
  and they were playing the Bridgestone Arena.
• 27:36
  And the night that the tickets went on sale, they were like the
• 27:44
  the web, like Ticketmaster or Live Nation or whatever.
• 27:47
  The the thing was like the website crashed like you
• 27:52
  couldn't, you couldn't get to the and then when you like
• 27:54
  finally got to refresh the, the show was sold out within like
• 28:00
  minutes. That's crazy.
• 28:02
  And what it ended up happening was obviously scalpers got in
• 28:06
  there and and cleared the whole thing out.
• 28:09
  And I mean, Bridgestone Arena is, I forget how many 10s of
• 28:14
  thousands of of it might be like AI don't know, somewhere between
• 28:18
  10 to 20,000 seat capacity. You know what I mean?
• 28:22
  It's a it's it's a big place and they sold out.
• 28:25
  Clearly the the scalpers got in there and I knew I knew a lady
• 28:29
  who like ended up buying. I forget if it was 2 tickets,
• 28:36
  she got charged for four. It was something like $5000 that
• 28:39
  she ended up getting hit for it like incorrectly, you know, it
• 28:46
  was, it was it was terrible. He was like, I I can't even
• 28:49
  resell these now. No, there's.
• 28:52
  Nobody in their right mind that's going to spend, you know,
• 28:54
  $1500 for a ticket in the nosebleeds.
• 28:59
  And the next naturally the nosebleeds.
• 29:01
  If it was something more up close and meet the band
• 29:03
  afterwards kind of thing, I could see that maybe panning
• 29:05
  out, but. Yeah, but you know, to see a
• 29:09
  little speck, you know, a quarter mile away for $1500,
• 29:14
  give me a break. Yeah, I'd rather sit in my house
• 29:17
  and watch it on YouTube because you got cameras and stuff, you
• 29:20
  know what I mean? Like.
• 29:21
  That's why I will say that anyone who were to go to Red
• 29:24
  Rocks, I well, it's too late to say it now, but I'd say, you
• 29:28
  know, get there as soon as possible.
• 29:30
  We'll buy the tickets as soon as you can because, you know, I
• 29:33
  it's honestly worth the extra money for, you know, without the
• 29:37
  resale, obviously, but like the actual ticket prices are well
• 29:41
  worth it. It's just, you know, because
• 29:44
  I've seen pictures of people way back at the at the venue and
• 29:49
  it's just like, it's crazy because you can still see high
• 29:51
  Long pretty decently, but like overall they're like, God damn
• 29:55
  like I can't barely see them like this big.
• 29:57
  Yeah, yeah. Well, the nice thing about
• 30:00
  Amphitheatre type venues and I think that's what Red Rocks is,
• 30:06
  but it's an Amphitheatre, right, Is that you've got that seating
• 30:11
  arrangement where it isn't like flat straight back it it it goes
• 30:15
  up and back. So even though you're even
• 30:19
  though you're far back, like you're, you're more up in a way
• 30:22
  and so like yeah, you may be far in the back but you've got a a
• 30:28
  vantage point view almost like an aerial overhead view sort of
• 30:32
  thing. And so it's it's it's not like
• 30:35
  the worst. Oh no.
• 30:37
  It'll give you a lot worse if you get general mission.
• 30:41
  Yeah. Those schools, like during the
• 30:43
  day when I went there at the morning before, the ritual is,
• 30:47
  my friend and I, we went up there and then we can actually
• 30:50
  see them send up the stage from the very top.
• 30:52
  And then if you look right on the horizon, you can actually
• 30:55
  see the city of Denver in the distance.
• 30:57
  Yeah, yeah, did. You get you.
• 31:01
  You should if you get a chance, like I can't remember where in
• 31:06
  proximity it is, 'cause I used to go out there for work in
• 31:10
  Colorado, I mean, but I used to go everywhere.
• 31:11
  But we used to stay up. This it was, it was above
• 31:16
  Colorado Springs and I don't remember.
• 31:20
  No, it was Divide was the name of the place that I used to go.
• 31:23
  Oh. The Continental Divide.
• 31:27
  No, the name of the city itself was called Divide.
• 31:29
  Oh Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 31:31
  It was like if you go into Colorado Springs and then go up
• 31:35
  the mountain like 15 miles, you hit this little podunk town
• 31:39
  called Divide. They got to like a Walmart.
• 31:46
  And like, it's like this little podunk town.
• 31:49
  They got to jail, you know, some stores, a couple of restaurants.
• 31:53
  But it's so pretty up there. And, you know, I love Colorado
• 32:00
  anyway. Like, Oh yeah, used to travel
• 32:02
  all over the place. And you know, Colorado, Wyoming,
• 32:05
  Utah, Utah is a beautiful state. If you ever get a chance to go,
• 32:11
  there's like the southern part, the southeastern part of Utah.
• 32:17
  You've seen the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
• 32:20
  Yes, of course. So the canyons that they are at,
• 32:26
  you know, going out, that's that's Moab, Utah.
• 32:30
  I've been to Moab, Utah. Yeah, those canyons are in Moab,
• 32:33
  UT that's where they filmed Indiana Jones and the Last
• 32:36
  Crusades. That's crazy.
• 32:38
  Our last crusade, yeah. I would never have guessed that
• 32:40
  would be somewhere like in the United States or something.
• 32:43
  Like, yeah, exactly like it looks.
• 32:44
  Like Iraq or something. Right.
• 32:46
  It does, yeah. It definitely has that, that
• 32:48
  that feel when you're out there and man, the canyons like you
• 32:52
  know it. It doesn't.
• 32:54
  It's not on the same scale as like say the Grand Canyon in
• 32:57
  Arizona, but it's still and when you go up some of these
• 33:00
  mountains and drive some of these areas and you start just
• 33:04
  looking around and you think that you're closer to something
• 33:08
  than what you are. But the the more you walk and
• 33:10
  you get to like the edge and you realize I'm looking down and
• 33:15
  like these little bushes are actually like full grown, like
• 33:19
  full size trees. You know, it's like 1000 feet
• 33:23
  drop, but it looks like it's like 50 or 100 feet because
• 33:25
  everything is like the the the proportion and the scale of
• 33:28
  things, it's it's skewed from just the sheer, massive size of
• 33:32
  where you are. So like you're standing at the
• 33:35
  top of this Canyon looking down, you're thinking you're looking
• 33:37
  at bushes, but they're like they're they're they're actual
• 33:40
  like 30-40 foot tall trees that look like little bushes.
• 33:43
  It's it's surreal. You take 11 wrong step and
• 33:47
  you're you're you're toast. But yeah, yeah.
• 33:51
  The Colorado I I had nothing but great things to say about the
• 33:55
  state. I've been there.
• 33:57
  Jeez, 123123. Yeah, I've been there about no,
• 34:06
  three or four times. I want to say, hold on, hold on.
• 34:10
  I want to say, yeah, at least three or four.
• 34:12
  But the first two of my brothers traveled nursing and it was
• 34:16
  three times and I could get to go visit him.
• 34:20
  Now, the first time, it was all about medical marijuana.
• 34:22
  I was like, Oh yeah, cool, you know?
• 34:26
  But then the next time, and then the time after was Red Rocks.
• 34:29
  It was more about the actual state of Colorado and the scenic
• 34:32
  beauty and the mountains and just really being able to
• 34:34
  appreciate it. One of my goals is whether it be
• 34:39
  spring, summer, I don't care what season I want to rent out,
• 34:41
  like a little cabin out there. They just spend like at least
• 34:44
  two weeks out. There's just by myself, one
• 34:47
  other person, and just, you know, get out.
• 34:50
  I would. Love.
• 34:53
  To be that always been one of my pipe trees, I guess her bucket
• 34:56
  list kind of thing. I'd love to take my wife out
• 35:00
  there because she's never been farther W than I think like like
• 35:06
  Memphis TN like she's not gone any further W than that.
• 35:15
  And so, like, there's there's so much out there like, you know,
• 35:20
  the the, the that particular area that like the Rockies, you
• 35:24
  know what I mean? Like it's it's it's breathtaking
• 35:27
  and I would love it. And you know, the winter time up
• 35:30
  there is like next level, you know, 'cause they get so much
• 35:35
  snow and they get it early on, you know, so like you get up
• 35:38
  into those mountains and it's like just a a whole different.
• 35:43
  It's like another world. Oh.
• 35:45
  Yeah. And I would love to do that
• 35:47
  thing like you mentioned, you know, like get it either an
• 35:49
  Airbnb or, you know, exactly. That's the way to go.
• 35:51
  You know for like a week or two and just get all your supplies
• 35:56
  and get everything you need and just chill up in the mountains
• 35:59
  for for a bit. Kind of like, you know, like on
• 36:02
  a, on a on a smaller scale, but like how we did with Fire on the
• 36:05
  Mountain this year. You know, you know, you get, you
• 36:07
  bring what you need and you know hang out up there for for a
• 36:12
  period of time. Yeah, go off the grid.
• 36:15
  Just kind of stay away from social media and just, you know,
• 36:19
  just kind of recommute with, you know, nature and just, you know
• 36:22
  all that. Yeah, I think that's what I'm
• 36:28
  going to work on, you know, next year, you know, 2024.
• 36:35
  And I can't. It's just blowing my mind.
• 36:36
  It feels like we just got into 2023, man, like.
• 36:39
  Well, it's insane, but there are things happening this year.
• 36:41
  Like, a lot of great things, but it's just like, yeah, yeah,
• 36:46
  yeah. What is what are some highlights
• 36:49
  of 2023 that that that you have to to reflect on?
• 36:54
  Oh, geez. On into next year.
• 36:57
  At the top of my head it was one of my close friends got to be
• 37:01
  part of his wedding and then obviously my brother's wedding,
• 37:04
  marrying him and his wife. That was a true, true honor.
• 37:08
  And then good to see Gozira my second time.
• 37:11
  That was incredible. And then obviously the next part
• 37:16
  is very obvious, but saying hi, long and hang out.
• 37:19
  Then again, November 1st, you know this.
• 37:23
  That was just absolutely incredible.
• 37:25
  Anytime I get to share company with these great people, this is
• 37:28
  truly fucking amazing. And then I also got to meet some
• 37:30
  special people there as well, some for the first time, some
• 37:34
  for the second or third time, and then the next day I got to
• 37:38
  spend some time with a really cool person and had a blast.
• 37:41
  So we went down to the arch, which I hadn't been there since
• 37:45
  I was a kid, which that was a trip.
• 37:47
  I'm like, Oh my God, wow. And just everything just seems
• 37:51
  so much smaller now. But and then other than that,
• 37:55
  I'd say fire on the mountain. Obviously it has to be one of
• 37:59
  the crowning jewels of this era, too.
• 38:01
  I mean, good to see you again. And then meet Papa for the first
• 38:04
  time and Alf and Zeb and, you know, Sid and just absolutely
• 38:09
  incredible. How about you?
• 38:14
  I mean, yeah, like of course you know Fire on the Mountain ranks
• 38:18
  up there as a, as a as a pinnacle point of the year, you
• 38:23
  know something we look forward to, you know soon after it ends.
• 38:28
  We're like looking forward to the next one kind of thing and
• 38:32
  and then just, you know having those people part of it this
• 38:35
  year like you and and Wolf, that was a big deal.
• 38:39
  Having OLF in in our lives, you know is is is another highlight
• 38:43
  of the year 'cause you know this our, our this coming Yule, right
• 38:49
  next month is his one year anniversary of being a full
• 38:56
  member of Clarity folk. He was oathed in to the tribe
• 39:00
  last you know this this Yule this 2023 because we were like
• 39:06
  well we can't we want, you know we want you to kind of lead our
• 39:09
  ritual and well you can't do that unless you're fully part of
• 39:14
  the tribe and you've you've spent a lot of time you know
• 39:17
  Worthing yourself and and us proving our worth to you and you
• 39:20
  know that whole thing. So a big highlight of 2023 was
• 39:25
  to make it official, you know, and have him, you know, oathed
• 39:31
  into us and us to him. And you know that was that was a
• 39:39
  big step for for the tribe. I think you know probably
• 39:44
  another big one for me was fulfilling an oath for you know
• 39:51
  doing something with myself and and Greg you remember Greg you
• 39:56
  know Greg Strong from Raven Moon Hearth we we we we we tied our
• 40:02
  Weir together at the beginning of the year and at at UUL Samuel
• 40:05
  that OLF was was kind of sworn in to his position.
• 40:10
  But you know, Greg and I took an oath that we, you know, would do
• 40:14
  certain things for the community, not just our
• 40:17
  respective tribes, but our overall community.
• 40:20
  You know, host get togethers, host gatherings, do classes,
• 40:24
  bring knowledge and education for free to people and and.
• 40:29
  You know welcome people to know who we are and what we are about
• 40:32
  here in this area of Tennessee. And it was met well, you know
• 40:37
  and and you know getting that kind of connection with people
• 40:42
  and and establishing friendships which have grown into the you
• 40:46
  know bonds of kind of family sort sort of things.
• 40:49
  You know talked earlier I think offline or maybe it was when you
• 40:53
  came on here but about you know my, my, my fool Patrick the
• 40:56
  other Patrick GAC. You know some of the things that
• 40:59
  have happened in that are happening in his life.
• 41:02
  You know changes lifestyle changes, you know none of that.
• 41:07
  I don't want to say none of it would have happened if it
• 41:09
  weren't for the work that was put into you know people getting
• 41:16
  together with you know public gatherings park moots, all of
• 41:22
  that. But I think that those those
• 41:25
  actions were very influential in getting him to a point where
• 41:29
  he's at now and transitioning into the to the life that he's
• 41:34
  about to be faced with, you know, the responsibilities that
• 41:38
  he's going to be faced with. So I don't know, like, it's a
• 41:42
  very proud feeling, you know what I mean?
• 41:44
  Like I, I look back on this year and I and I see some of the
• 41:47
  things that have happened with not just myself but with others
• 41:51
  who mean a lot to me, you know, and I go, man, none of this
• 41:57
  would have happened had we not taken that first step, whenever
• 42:02
  it was, you know what I mean? Started that conversation,
• 42:07
  planted that seed, nourished that thing that was growing at
• 42:14
  its very early stages. Had we abandoned it?
• 42:16
  Had we, had we given up? You know it would have withered
• 42:20
  and died, you know and it wouldn't have become something
• 42:23
  you know and and what it is becoming or what it has become
• 42:27
  is is like it's you can't help but take some pride in that.
• 42:30
  You know what I mean? Probably like I think maybe for
• 42:33
  you with like the the the Highland group.
• 42:36
  You know what I mean? Like the?
• 42:38
  The. Challenges, the dips, the the,
• 42:41
  you know, the UPS, the down, you know what I mean?
• 42:42
  But like you have things that you can look back and reflect on
• 42:45
  and go, I'm proud of that. You know, I'm proud to have been
• 42:49
  a part of that, that thing. That's something that I'm very,
• 42:53
  very happy and very honored to look back on that and still have
• 42:58
  it being an ongoing thing. I mean, granted, like I told you
• 43:01
  and a few others, you know, it's not like we talk like me, you,
• 43:04
  me and me and you do or a couple of my other friends.
• 43:07
  But you know, every now and again I'll share a message or,
• 43:09
  you know, something like that. They just have it reciprocated.
• 43:12
  And you know, again, like when I was hanging out, then this time
• 43:15
  around I really had the distinct feeling of being treated like a
• 43:21
  friend and not so much a fan, which is something I found those
• 43:26
  very, you know, very special. Now granted some members I got
• 43:30
  along with her, not really got along with more, but just, you
• 43:32
  know, got more in depth with, you know, more, you know,
• 43:35
  one-on-one time, for example, like Mira and I, that was a
• 43:40
  really special part of that night.
• 43:41
  Just we talked for like about 30 or 40 minutes and then you know
• 43:46
  Alex Cabot, he's a great guy too.
• 43:49
  You know, he was great. You know, getting them talk with
• 43:53
  him and share my drawings with them that I drew for them.
• 43:55
  That was a real, real pleasure too And they really liked it and
• 43:58
  appreciate it and just, you know, and everything else that
• 44:02
  went with that experience too. But yeah, but also I was also
• 44:04
  thinking about me and you and like we mentioned this a few
• 44:07
  times through our podcast, but just you know that one Fateful
• 44:10
  day actually I think it might have been around this time of
• 44:12
  year it seems, you know some of the cross you and on YouTube and
• 44:19
  you'll see, you know, I really hate what happened with you on
• 44:22
  YouTube, but in a lot of ways I still appreciate YouTube a lot
• 44:25
  and how you know, they made a lot of things possible as well,
• 44:29
  you know and just you know having our our connection and
• 44:33
  building upon that and look where we are today.
• 44:36
  Yeah, exactly. You know, that was a seed that
• 44:38
  got planted. And you know the the interesting
• 44:41
  thing about growth is you know sometimes you got to sometimes
• 44:45
  you got to do some really heavy wedding and and kind of like you
• 44:50
  know you know cut it all cut it all down sometimes, sometimes
• 44:56
  you got to go in there and just say fuck it and start from
• 45:01
  scratch a bit you know what I mean?
• 45:03
  And that was kind of that was that was a that was a step that
• 45:06
  took place this year too for me. You know, there was some, there
• 45:09
  were definitely things that in reflection I I realized were
• 45:15
  necessary to happen for like the, you know, wiping it out,
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  cleaning it out, resetting, doing a hard reset on a lot of
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  things. You know, I'm going to do a
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  I know Patrick, you've got pieces, I've got a number of
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  pieces. You know, they they sit back
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  here a lot of times. You guys look and see and and I
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  And yeah, yeah, it's all good stuff.
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  But I think, you know, when when we talk about, you know,
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  reflecting, it's like we want to focus all the time or or maybe
• 47:03
  most of the time, especially this time of year, we want to
• 47:05
  focus on the things that bring us levity right, happiness.
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  What were the what were the shining moments.
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  What were the what were the the the things that you know, made
• 47:14
  us happy. And I think, you know, one of
• 47:20
  the things that I've personally had to, you know, battle with or
• 47:25
  or or struggle with this year is it's some it's some not so nice
• 47:28
  things, not so happy things. You know my dad passed away in
• 47:31
  April and you know the the the the family dynamic such as it
• 47:39
  such as it was my my blood family.
• 47:41
  I mean you know kind of being torn apart in a way.
• 47:48
  You know there's still points of it to to to learn from I think.
• 47:53
  And it's, it's it, you know, if if we don't, if we don't allow
• 47:59
  things like that to be a part of our progression, a part of our
• 48:02
  growth, I think we're probably doing ourselves a a disservice
• 48:08
  or an injustice, you know, not learning from those tough times,
• 48:14
  you know what I mean? Those those times where we felt
• 48:18
  like we had nowhere else to go, we were, we were beaten down and
• 48:21
  we were knocked down and it was where, where, where can I
• 48:25
  possibly go from here, you know? I know exactly what you mean.
• 48:30
  And in my life, you know, my struggles are no secret, you
• 48:35
  know, I mean struggling with depression And just, you know, I
• 48:39
  think one of the most frustrating things about that
• 48:41
  for me is just, you know, having that sense of being burned out
• 48:45
  and having that zest for what you're passionate about.
• 48:49
  You know, just kind of be drained away a little bit.
• 48:51
  Why, That's kind of why I partake of some of the
• 48:55
  substances that I do being you know, alcohol and cannabis that
• 48:59
  kind of just, I don't know. In some ways it opens the door.
• 49:03
  But also one of my goals this year is to, well, next year I
• 49:06
  should say, is to be more organic about ascertaining those
• 49:11
  kind of levels of connection on a very natural way, like brother
• 49:15
  just don't for nice and nice little hike or maybe just like
• 49:21
  meditating, you know, one of my sacred places and something like
• 49:24
  that, you know? Which you you actually have
• 49:30
  shared on on on some of your posts that really cool place in
• 49:33
  in the pine trees where you made that kind of like a almost like
• 49:37
  a teepee or lean to sort of. Yeah, a little shelter.
• 49:40
  Yeah, yeah. How's that holding up?
• 49:43
  I was actually there not that long ago at all.
• 49:46
  I left there probably around 5:15 this evening, but it's
• 49:50
  still standing. It was actually windy is all
• 49:52
  held today and I was hesitant to going out there today, but I'm
• 49:57
  like I've been spending all day inside.
• 49:59
  I need to get out. I can't.
• 50:01
  I can't do this. It was a little chilly, but I
• 50:03
  bundled up and I went down there and I'm very happy I did and
• 50:07
  just kind of like just sat back in my little space and being in
• 50:10
  there guarded me for the wind a lot.
• 50:13
  So that made it a lot more easier just to sit, sit back and
• 50:16
  relax and just watch the scenery and listen to some great music
• 50:19
  and just it was fantastic. I'm really proud of myself, the
• 50:22
  way it was all put together. Funny thing happened the other
• 50:26
  day is I went down there to see y'all hang out and then I see a
• 50:30
  car parked there. I'm like, OK, well there's
• 50:32
  someone walking around, obviously walking around, not
• 50:35
  seeing us all. Then I go to my shelter, I see
• 50:38
  three guys in there participating of a certain
• 50:43
  substance, and I'm like, oh, you guys got the same idea too, huh?
• 50:48
  And then one of the guys, like, pumped his head up and goes,
• 50:51
  hey, did you make this spot? I'm like, yeah, like, oh shit.
• 50:56
  Just kind of all gradually got out and we started talking for a
• 51:00
  few minutes and we're just kind of shooting the ship for a
• 51:03
  little bit. And then, you know, they just
• 51:05
  sung their praises and like, hey, can I tag you on Instagram
• 51:08
  and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, sure, go for it.
• 51:11
  And then they told me a story. I'm not sure if I told you this,
• 51:13
  but it was really cool when I heard it is.
• 51:17
  They said one of the times they were down there hanging out,
• 51:19
  they saw a guy with an easel painting what I built.
• 51:25
  Really. Yeah.
• 51:28
  Oh. Wow.
• 51:28
  Yeah, I when I heard that, I'm like, please tell me you're
• 51:31
  being serious because that just made my day.
• 51:33
  You know, like just the fact that somebody felt so inspired
• 51:36
  to paint something that I created, like, wow, that's a
• 51:39
  true honor and a true privilege. And just like, you know, make
• 51:43
  down the pride of saying that I made this all by myself too.
• 51:46
  It was really cool, too. He had this.
• 51:48
  It took. It's funny because one anything
• 51:50
  I went out there just hanging around and then something just
• 51:53
  sparked in me. I was actually listening to one
• 51:56
  of our mirrors of songs. I'm like, all right, let's do
• 52:00
  it. And then start gathering
• 52:01
  supplies. And then the day after that and
• 52:03
  the day after that, it just start building and building it
• 52:05
  just it was an addiction. I'm like, I need to keep
• 52:07
  building. And then finally I was like, OK,
• 52:10
  this looks adequate for now and I'm going to leave a beef for
• 52:14
  the time being. But yeah, I should have sent you
• 52:17
  a picture and just like post it on that video, but.
• 52:20
  Yeah, no, I'm I'm actually, I'm actually doing something here
• 52:24
  real quick while you talk about it.
• 52:26
  No. So that's pretty neat because
• 52:28
  you had somebody, you know, and it's one thing to, like, take
• 52:33
  photos of it, you know what I mean?
• 52:36
  It's a totally other thing to like, have it like memorialized
• 52:43
  through painting, drawing a sketch, you know, that sort of
• 52:50
  thing. I want to see if anybody's
• 52:52
  watching. Here it is.
• 52:55
  Oh, there she is. That's you.
• 52:59
  You took this. I I just stole this from your.
• 53:01
  From your profile, I guess this was like within the last week or
• 53:05
  so, right? Yeah, not that long ago at all.
• 53:08
  Yeah, yeah, you know, so for those of you watching, you know,
• 53:13
  this is the thing that obviously some other guys had found in
• 53:17
  their travels and they were enjoying it in their way, right?
• 53:21
  They weren't being disrespectful to the space.
• 53:24
  And then they told you that they witnessed someone out there who
• 53:30
  wanted to paint this picture somewhere out there.
• 53:34
  Dude, your work has been painted, you know what I mean?
• 53:38
  Yeah, it's tricky. As a whole, that's that's cool
• 53:41
  as hell, dude. Like to think about that.
• 53:43
  Like I was walking the Greenway here a few a few weeks ago and I
• 53:51
  had my I I I walked like out to the to some of the trails that
• 53:57
  go around the battlefield. The next time you come out we'll
• 54:00
  have to go out that way. It's a little bit further.
• 54:02
  It's a little bit further down than the place that I took you
• 54:08
  about a mile or two, maybe not even about a mile, maybe most.
• 54:12
  But anyway, I was walking back and I had like my poncho and
• 54:14
  stuff on and I didn't, I didn't look like your typical, you
• 54:17
  know, hiker or whatever, you know.
• 54:20
  But anyway there was this lady and and another guy that were
• 54:23
  out there and they were just like taking random photos.
• 54:25
  They had a picture. They had a picture taker.
• 54:28
  They had a camera. It's called the camera, damn it,
• 54:32
  like a professional camera. You know what I mean?
• 54:34
  That they were taking pictures for.
• 54:36
  And she's like, I'm an amateur photographer.
• 54:37
  She stopped me. She's like, I'm sorry, but you
• 54:39
  got this look. She's like, do you mind if I
• 54:41
  take your picture? And I was like, Nah, yeah,
• 54:44
  that's fine. And so told her who, you know
• 54:47
  what my page was and she sent it to me.
• 54:49
  And I was pretty cool. But yeah, you know, like when
• 54:52
  you, you never know just what, you know, the thing that we do,
• 54:56
  the things that we do for ourselves, you never know just
• 54:59
  how they might touch someone. You know, they, they they, they
• 55:03
  see something and it sparked something for them, you know?
• 55:07
  And maybe that's all it was for those guys.
• 55:10
  Like maybe it was just a cool spot for them to kind of
• 55:12
  privately do what they wanted to do without being hassled about
• 55:15
  it. But you never know what it could
• 55:18
  have left in their hearts and in their minds on a, on a, on a
• 55:24
  more long term sort of deal, you know what I mean?
• 55:27
  And I think that's an important, I think, I think it's an, I
• 55:32
  think it's an important thing to to remember too, you know, that
• 55:35
  the kind of responsibilities that we have at times to, you
• 55:41
  know, the influence that we can have on people.
• 55:45
  You know what I mean? Good and bad.
• 55:47
  Yeah. You know we can leave bad
• 55:51
  influence, bad impressions or or or be a bad influence.
• 55:54
  But man, for those times like I I'm so proud of you, man, for
• 55:57
  for having gone through that work and done that work and then
• 56:00
  have the opportunity for others to enjoy it and want to capture
• 56:05
  it, want to immortalize it in a way you know through a painting.
• 56:11
  That's so cool, man. I'm.
• 56:13
  Really hoping one day, Yeah. I was going to say one day.
• 56:15
  I want to see maybe, you know the Doors will deem it worthy
• 56:19
  for me to come across it someday.
• 56:21
  I mean, I'm not sure where I may be on Facebook or honestly, I
• 56:25
  think Instagram might be the best way to go for that one.
• 56:27
  Just because maybe. Who knows but.
• 56:32
  Yeah, you never know, right? I mean, where your stuff might
• 56:36
  end, like where it could have ended up like who?
• 56:38
  Who was that even, right? Why did they like, is it hanging
• 56:43
  in their garage or did it like, get sold?
• 56:45
  Like, who knows, man. Like, that's cool.
• 56:48
  Watching it worth like $2,000,000 like like 50 years an
• 56:52
  hour or some shit. Too right?
• 56:55
  Oh. My God, we're gonna have that.
• 56:56
  But can I can I buy this? But I I got a funny story.
• 56:59
  I I kind of created this and. Right.
• 57:03
  I'm gonna, you know, need need royalties now intellectual
• 57:07
  property. Yeah, I need a cupboard or
• 57:09
  whatever you're making right now.
• 57:10
  I got proof too. I got my phone and you know,
• 57:13
  here's me step by step making it and I'm kind of glad I did that
• 57:17
  too. It was fun just to watch or look
• 57:19
  at my pictures when I start off, just like, you know, three, like
• 57:22
  you have the tree here. And then what I did is I took
• 57:24
  two long like logs or branches and sent them right there and
• 57:29
  just got kind of built from side to side and stacking insulation
• 57:34
  and building again. And that's the Long story short
• 57:36
  version of what I did, but yeah. Yeah, well, he did some great
• 57:42
  things this year, man. Seriously.
• 57:46
  Oh thank you. Thank you and that and that's
• 57:48
  always cool thing to like you know to just reflect back and
• 57:53
  then it kind of gives you inspiration on what do I do now
• 57:57
  going forward. Right.
• 57:58
  Because it's not you know it's not you just you know do this
• 58:02
  one thing and then walk away from it.
• 58:05
  It's it's like you know you you're constantly tending to it
• 58:08
  and it's a it's it's always, I think I posted something not too
• 58:11
  long ago where you know goodness is not a it's not a destination
• 58:17
  that you reach. It's a process that we go
• 58:21
  through talking about goodness, right.
• 58:23
  Things that are good. Right.
• 58:24
  So it's it's not that you you reach the destination and then
• 58:28
  that's it, it's it's it's always happening you know and sure
• 58:34
  you're going to reach those points in those times where it's
• 58:39
  you know, didn't feel so good or you know.
• 58:44
  Like a dry spell. Yeah, yeah, you like, you know,
• 58:46
  you talk about like I forget the word you use, but like that the.
• 58:52
  Burnout. Burnout, yeah.
• 58:54
  Yeah, yeah. And that's the thing too.
• 58:57
  That's also very important to know.
• 58:59
  Anyone who might be watching relating to this is like, that
• 59:02
  goes with any like relationship or friendship or any kind of
• 59:07
  like established connection you've made.
• 59:09
  There's going to be days where that connection just isn't
• 59:13
  there. But in my opinion, I think
• 59:16
  that's a challenge Well accepted.
• 59:18
  It's like, OK, well fine, if you can get through those days of
• 59:22
  like the burnout phase or get to the days of just your just no
• 59:26
  rapport. You know, there's times like
• 59:28
  multiple times me and you were talking on Messenger and I'm
• 59:31
  like, man, there's just nights. I just not feeling anything at
• 59:33
  all. And then there's nights that you
• 59:34
  completely don't expect anything at all to happen and it just,
• 59:37
  bam, happens right then and there.
• 59:39
  You know, completely unscripted. You know the way it should
• 59:43
  happen rather than being something you, you know, split
• 59:47
  hairs and just kind of like, you know, make it the best way
• 59:50
  possible, just needs to play out the need the way it needs to
• 59:52
  play out. Yeah, I I think, you know I
• 59:58
  think that when we do feel that that that feeling of of burnout,
• 1:00:03
  I think it I think it's ourselves trying to tell us what
• 1:00:07
  we actually need. You know what I mean?
• 1:00:11
  I don't, I don't necessarily think that we're burnt out from
• 1:00:14
  the experience. I think we just need to shift
• 1:00:16
  our focus because when we put, when we're putting all of our
• 1:00:20
  effort or putting all of our energy into.
• 1:00:24
  Connections and doing for you know doing things that we want
• 1:00:30
  you know to to to to be as like a lead by deed, you know sort of
• 1:00:34
  thing. It's not that it's not that we
• 1:00:35
  ever turned it off. It's just that at that I think
• 1:00:38
  at some points in in our existence and in our experiences
• 1:00:43
  as as beings, as what we are, that we reach certain points
• 1:00:48
  that in order for our health to be kept, well, you know, we need
• 1:00:54
  it. That that that focus needs to be
• 1:00:56
  shifted, right. We're not turning it off
• 1:00:58
  completely. We just like, hey, we we need to
• 1:01:00
  turn our gaze elsewhere. I'm putting too much into this
• 1:01:04
  thing right now and it's and it's you know, taking maybe too
• 1:01:09
  much out of me. I need to, I need to refocus.
• 1:01:11
  I need to, I need to shift my focus into into other areas,
• 1:01:15
  whatever that might be, whether it's ourselves or whatever,
• 1:01:20
  right. Whatever the whatever the
• 1:01:21
  circumstances might be. I think, you know, I think we
• 1:01:26
  are, I think we're, I think we're really in tune with
• 1:01:30
  ourselves more than we give ourselves credit for, right.
• 1:01:34
  If you're feeling burnt out about doing something and it's
• 1:01:40
  probably because you're just putting you know putting more
• 1:01:42
  into it than what needs to be put into it at the time and now
• 1:01:46
  you need to shift focus into into other things And that's the
• 1:01:50
  beauty of it. You know we're not.
• 1:01:52
  You know we're not we're not stationary creatures.
• 1:01:58
  You know what I mean? You know we're we're we're not
• 1:02:00
  trees in that aspect. You know, we can move.
• 1:02:03
  We don't like something. You know, I saw something not
• 1:02:06
  too long ago. It's like if you don't like
• 1:02:09
  where you are, then fucking move, You know what I mean?
• 1:02:13
  You don't like where you're at, at A at a particular stage of
• 1:02:16
  things, like then move. You're not a tree.
• 1:02:17
  You don't have to sit here and take it, get up and move like
• 1:02:22
  and. And I think part of the
• 1:02:23
  experiences that we feel with burnout is is ourselves telling
• 1:02:27
  ourselves that like, I got to get away from this particular
• 1:02:30
  thing. And I think it's also important
• 1:02:33
  to to realize that if we get to that point, then maybe that's a
• 1:02:38
  lesson for ourselves to put more attention to the process and not
• 1:02:47
  allow ourselves to get to that point of burnout.
• 1:02:50
  I mean, it's going to happen. You know what I mean?
• 1:02:53
  Like, I'm going to be burnt out from doing podcasts at any given
• 1:02:58
  point in time. I mean, I felt it number of
• 1:02:59
  times this year. And I've been like, sorry guys,
• 1:03:02
  I need a week. You know, I need to take a week.
• 1:03:04
  And then in advance of that, I thought, well, let me plan when
• 1:03:07
  I'm going to tie this season off and then let people know, like
• 1:03:10
  I'm, I'm not going to be doing the podcast for, you know, the
• 1:03:13
  next week or two or however long it's going to be.
• 1:03:15
  I'm taking this time off and realize that that is a necessary
• 1:03:20
  part of all of this. We can't be on 100% of the time
• 1:03:26
  with what we're doing right. We've got to.
• 1:03:31
  We've got to be sensitive to our our feelings of things and know
• 1:03:35
  that if we feel burnt out, then it's probably because we've
• 1:03:41
  exhausted all we can with that particular thing and we need to
• 1:03:45
  shift our focus. I don't know what you think
• 1:03:46
  about it, but through it, you know, relationships too.
• 1:03:54
  I mean, I love my wife. She loves me, you know, been
• 1:03:58
  together for eight years, and there's plenty of times where
• 1:04:02
  it's just like, I need a break from you.
• 1:04:08
  You know what I mean? Like, I love the hell out of
• 1:04:10
  you. But I just like, I got to get
• 1:04:11
  away from you for this duration, for this moment, for this time,
• 1:04:14
  whatever. Like, I need AI, need my space.
• 1:04:18
  And that's fair. That's a fair thing to expect of
• 1:04:21
  people, you know. You know, I wouldn't want
• 1:04:25
  somebody up my butt 24/7. You probably don't either.
• 1:04:28
  I mean, the the the idea, the notion of that probably sounds
• 1:04:32
  better than what the reality of it is to a lot of people.
• 1:04:35
  But I'm telling you, you know, like the novelty will wear off
• 1:04:39
  really quick. If you have somebody just up
• 1:04:42
  your butt 24/7, you know you're going to get burnt out.
• 1:04:47
  They're going to be just going to.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, she's going to carry it away sometimes, but.
• 1:04:53
  Yeah, it is. You know, And it's such a weird
• 1:04:55
  place to be. And you know to to to crave
• 1:04:58
  something, to want something, to work hard for something that you
• 1:05:04
  crave. And then when you get it, you're
• 1:05:06
  like, why do I hate this thing now all of a sudden?
• 1:05:09
  Why am I why? Why?
• 1:05:10
  Why is this the last thing that I even want, having, you know,
• 1:05:15
  busted my butt to get it? It's weird, man.
• 1:05:19
  It's it's strange how that can go, you know, working hard for
• 1:05:28
  something and then almost abhorring the idea of it once
• 1:05:33
  you get there. Weird, you know?
• 1:05:38
  That's how it wasn't my job too. I mean good God.
• 1:05:41
  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm sure you know, like you, you know, you
• 1:05:44
  want, you think, you know, generally speaking that you
• 1:05:47
  know, you work hard for something because you know,
• 1:05:50
  that's what we're supposed to do.
• 1:05:51
  Where we have this, I guess, preconceived idea or notion
• 1:05:55
  that, you know, you work hard, you get a raise, you get a
• 1:05:57
  promotion, you get a better life or at least the means to provide
• 1:06:01
  for a better life. You know, and all these types of
• 1:06:04
  this, this very, you know, western concept of of society
• 1:06:10
  and and all this types of things.
• 1:06:11
  And then when you get there, it's like, well, where is it?
• 1:06:17
  You know, well, you had it. You you, you got it and and now
• 1:06:22
  the work comes into to to keep it and to maintain it.
• 1:06:24
  It's it's it doesn't get easier the more that you, when you
• 1:06:29
  strive for a greatness, you know, like it, it doesn't get
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  easier now that you've got there.
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  If anything it becomes even more of a task to to maintain and
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  keep it, you know and I think that's what a lot of people
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  reach with burnout is that they they they like the idea or the
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  notion of achieving something. They just they don't they don't
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  fully grasp the responsibility of what that thing is once they
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  get it, when they get a taste of it.
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  The the real work comes in when when you you get to that point
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  you know you can't just you can't just sit back and coast
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  it's because it it now at that point it's it's much more you
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  know liable to to to blow away like you got to hold on even
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  harder you got to work even harder now at that point to keep
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  it but it's a tactical sort of thing you know what I mean it's
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  it's it's not you know nose to the grindstone 24/7.
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  I mean you got to take care of ourselves.
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  It's and I think that's I think that's where I want to be.
• 1:07:36
  You know going into to to the new year, preparing for Season 5
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  for the podcast, You know, I've got a lot of responses from a
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  lot of different people that want to come on to the show next
• 1:07:50
  year, next season as guests, you know what I mean?
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  And that's that's a lot to to maintain and I'm excited for it
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  because there's there's you know people that are eager and
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  wanting to hear you know to to have their voices heard and and
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  and talk about things and I'm really, really excited for that.
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  But it's it's going to be an even it's going to be a much
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  different thing than this past season you know.
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  So I'm looking forward to it. I hope everybody that listening
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  and watching is is looking forward to it as well.
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  But and I'm looking forward to Friday, man.
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  I don't know about you. I'm looking forward to.
• 1:08:31
  That I'm very soaked. I can't wait to hear and see
• 1:08:34
  what people are asking and and and and us to get together sort
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  of in again that virtual space, you know, sit around that
• 1:08:41
  virtual fire, as it were. I might make my own.
• 1:08:43
  I'm actually able to make my own fire that evening.
• 1:08:46
  Yeah, yeah. Well, I can't do it here.
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  I mean, I can't. I can have, like, the candles,
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  but I think, I think my wife would get mad if I'd lit a fire
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  in my office. Yeah, mine.
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  To go too well. You know what I mean?
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  It'd get a little smoky. I raised some attention here.
• 1:09:02
  Yeah, yeah, you know, smoke billowing out from the doors is
• 1:09:06
  generally not a good sign. It's just part of the podcast.
• 1:09:09
  Don't worry about it. Right, right.
• 1:09:12
  But anywho man, anything else you wanted to to add to this
• 1:09:19
  Anything else on your mind that you want to weigh in on before
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  we wrap this up? I.
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  Think I'm all set. All right.
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  Well, I definitely appreciate you coming on here and talking
• 1:09:32
  with me about stuff. I'm, I'm looking forward to the
• 1:09:36
  year to come and I'm looking forward to having we got on here
• 1:09:40
  too. Oh yeah.
• 1:09:41
  That's going to happen. We're going to do, we're going
• 1:09:44
  to do some more podcast this year and then another stuff as
• 1:09:48
  well, I'm sure. But for everybody that's
• 1:09:51
  watching here on the Patreon platform, as I mentioned
• 1:09:54
  earlier, thank you for being a supporter in this way.
• 1:09:59
  You know I'm pledging your support for for for the dollar a
• 1:10:03
  month that it takes to just catch these videos.
• 1:10:05
  It means a lot to me and it helps with the production
• 1:10:10
  efforts that go into to what I do here.
• 1:10:13
  So thank you so very much. And to all of my scald tier
• 1:10:18
  patrons and above the the day that you're listening and
• 1:10:23
  watching to this right now and it's it's a Thursday.
• 1:10:25
  So it's the third Thursday of every month we have a one-on-one
• 1:10:29
  video virtual thing that we're going to be doing.
• 1:10:35
  So look forward to seeing all of my skull tier patrons and above
• 1:10:39
  that are going to be doing that to my Chieftain tier and above
• 1:10:42
  patrons. Your monthly room draws will be
• 1:10:44
  coming out at the end of this month and then we will be
• 1:10:47
  starting the new cadence of your monthly room draws.
• 1:10:54
  In January, you'll be getting your room draws from me e-mail
• 1:10:59
  to you at the beginning of each month instead of at the end of
• 1:11:01
  each month. So lots of changes, lots of new
• 1:11:04
  things coming here in Season 5 and in the, you know, the coming
• 1:11:08
  2024 calendar year. So for those of you that are
• 1:11:12
  listening, you know, check the description or check the show
• 1:11:14
  notes, I should say for the link tree link for all of the stuff
• 1:11:17
  that you need to to to follow me on the socials, the, you know,
• 1:11:21
  the merchandise, all that fun stuff.
• 1:11:25
  And I guess the last thing I just want to personally say is
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  to my listeners and viewers, to whatever degree that you observe
• 1:11:32
  your Yuletide celebrations, whether you're starting it now
• 1:11:36
  around the solstice, or whether you're waiting until next month
• 1:11:40
  to to do it on the more historically accurate heathen,
• 1:11:45
  pre Christian heathen observances of it.
• 1:11:47
  To whatever degree and however you choose to observe, I hope
• 1:11:50
  that your Yule and your Yuletide season is full of Frith
• 1:11:56
  merriment and blessings. And I hope that you get a chance
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  to spend meaningful time with your friends, your tribes, your
• 1:12:03
  families, and that all the blessings and prosperity of of
• 1:12:10
  this midwinter celebration come to you and yours.
• 1:12:15
  So anything else you that you want to add to that my brother
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  Patrick? Same thing you know all who are
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  celebrating Yoel or any solstice.
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  I wish you the very best in ending this year, but even more
• 1:12:26
  promising and fortuitous next year.
• 1:12:29
  And I look forward to, you know, being on the podcast again and
• 1:12:33
  showing my support to all you guys.
• 1:12:36
  Absolutely. And and yeah, Speaking of
• 1:12:38
  support, you know guys, check the description down below and
• 1:12:42
  the show notes if you're listening because Patrick has
• 1:12:46
  his High Lung mental spiritual health support group on
• 1:12:50
  Facebook. The link for that will be
• 1:12:53
  included down there. So become a member.
• 1:12:57
  It's a safe space for you and and for for folks just wanting
• 1:13:01
  to to connect in that sort of way.
• 1:13:04
  He does a great job at administrating and moderating
• 1:13:07
  that group and I'm happy to be there as well.
• 1:13:09
  So do be sure to check his group out and support him in that
• 1:13:12
  venture. All right, folks.
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  So this is the end of Season 4, the finale.
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  Thank you, Patrick for joining me today to to wrap up Season 4.
• 1:13:23
  Thank you to all of my listeners and viewers for making Season 4
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  an amazing year. And until we see each other
• 1:13:31
  again in season five, may the gods continue to notice you.
• 1:13:35
  May your ancestors smile upon you.
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  God, duel to all. See you soon.