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Project Helix vs. PlayStation 6 vs. Steam Machine · Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games

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  Hello everybody, welcome back to the Boss First podcast, a great
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  place to play games and be better.
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  I'm one of your hosts, Corey Derrigan alongside me as always.
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  Is the PC muscle race himself or on Dawkins?
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  Hey Lauren, are your components going up in price?
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  Or yes, they are. They are just happy.
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  To see me. They're going up in price, but
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  just remember, just remember, my disk is never floppy for you,
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  Corey. Oh.
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  Gosh, it's fair. In all seriousness, how many
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  people? How many?
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  How many people younger than the age of 25 you think know what a
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  floppy disk is? I'd say maybe about 1% of the
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  pop. Well, no, I don't know, Vintage
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  is kind of a thing now. So, you know, I think, I think,
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  I think more people than than than few know, know what a
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  floppy. Disk.
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  Yeah, but the. Yeah, but the photos on their
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  photos on their phones are bigger than the space available
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  on a floppy disk. Let's be honest.
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  Oh my God. I mean, it's like that.
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  It's that meme. It's that meme of like a
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  screenshot of Super Mario Brothers is bigger than the
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  entire entire file of Super Mario Brothers, so I don't.
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  No way. No way.
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  No, I, I swear, look it up. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on
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  the the original NES for Mario Brothers game.
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  Yeah, apparently a screenshot of the game is bigger.
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  Like the file size of a screenshot today is bigger than
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  the entire file of the Super Mario Brothers.
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  Holy shit, 40 kilobytes. Oh my God, why do I forget?
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  Why do I forget it was a kill? Why do I forget?
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  Any of those games are KB games. Why?
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  Because nobody measures things in kilobytes anymore.
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  It's crazy that kilobytes aren't even obsolete.
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  This is the fact that we don't think about kilobytes anymore.
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  We're complaining that we're complaining that 512 gig SSDs
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  are too small, OK? So why would we even think about
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  SSDs? OK.
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  I have people all the time, they'll, they'll go out and buy,
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  they'll, they'll go out and buy a laptop and the laptop will
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  come with 128 gigs of of of storage on an SSD.
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  I'm like you literally filled half of that up with Windows.
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  I know, I know. And like some people are like,
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  well, I'll just run everything off of an an external SSD.
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  I'm like, well, you should have just got an internal SSD.
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  Like I don't know man, I made that mistake once.
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  I'm never doing it again. Technology.
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  That's before I was tech savvy, as they as they say.
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  Wow, kilobytes. I know hold.
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  On, hold on, let me hold on. Let me look through my, my, my,
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  my, my emulation library. Let's take a look at something
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  here. Where?
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  Where is my library? I turned my emulators on like a
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  hot minute. OK, No, not that this is going
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  to be fun. Is it?
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  It's it's it's interesting. Just OK, ROMs, let me see
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  something here. OK, I don't have I don't have a
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  lot, but let's see. Metal Gear Solid.
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  No, not solid. I'm sorry that that that wasn't
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  that was never on. So hold on a second.
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  Super Mario, Super Mario Brothers, Yeah, 41 kilobytes.
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  Yeah, Metal Gear 129 kilobytes. Metro Metroid was a Metroid had
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  more data in it than than Super Mario Brothers.
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  I believe it. But Metroid did not have more
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  data than Ninja Gaiden 1. Well, you know Nintendo knows
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  how to optimize their games. As a matter of fact, hold on,
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  let's see something. Legend of Zelda Legend of Zelda
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  was a simple ass game. 129 kilobytes.
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  Zelda 2 Zelda 2129 kilobytes. You know what I'm starting?
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  I'm seeing a trend here. Certain games, certain games of
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  certain types, you know, we're only of a certain like file
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  size. Yeah.
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  Also, you got to consider when they, when these things came
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  out, what kind of batteries were in the, in the, you know.
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  Yeah, 'cause all three Ninja Gaiden games are all 257
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  kilobytes apiece. Skate or Die 2 is 513 kilobytes.
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  Super Mario Brothers three. OK, so here's an evolution here.
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  The first Super Mario's game, Super Mario Brothers game was 41
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  kilobytes. Mario Brothers 2, which we all
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  know is a reskin, and Ducky Ducky Panic is 257 kilobytes and
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  Mario 3 is 385 kilobytes. So that game, that game evolved
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  and not just, and not just, you know, by graphics and gameplay,
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  it evolved Super Contra 249 kilobytes versus 129 kilobytes.
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  So it got a Yep, it got a, it got a nice little facelift.
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  By the way, side tangent, did you see that Wart and Mouse are
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  are both in the Mario Galaxy movie?
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  No, but that's kind of cool. Yeah, they're on the poster.
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  They made the poster. Oh, I, I, I, I haven't paid any
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  more attention to any more of the Mario Galaxy stuff because I
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  know I'm going to see the movie, so I don't want to be spoiled.
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  I mean, that's fair. I really, I really don't care
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  about the movie. I just, I, I got excited when
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  the wart was in it. And also, Donald Glover is Yoshi
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  apparently, so it's a weird casting.
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  That's a weird count, yeah. I would have saved Donald Glover
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  for maybe a character that talks more or you know.
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  Like like 1 like one of the koopalings, right?
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  One of them, or like, maybe you should have made him Bowser
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  Junior would have been hilarious, but yeah.
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  That's OK though, because yeah, see, like I'm automatically
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  going to see this movie because Bowser Junior is in it.
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  Yeah, that's fair. I mean, my, my son is that way
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  too. He loves Bowser Junior, but it's
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  because he's a demon. Your son, your son's, your son's
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  too old now. Used to have literally got him
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  the used to have literally got him the bandana.
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  He had He has a Bowser Junior's stuffed animal.
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  He loves it. Oh yeah.
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  He throws it at me so. Where'd you get it?
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  Where'd you get it from? I need to get one for myself.
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  The Amazon? Did I say that out loud?
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  Amazon dude, do you see all this shit behind me?
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  How's he not ran through all your stuff already?
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  Because I buy, because I've bought in him other ones that
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  are similar and he plays with those and these are mine.
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  I'm, I'm just shocked. I'm like, I'm like.
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  Yeah. You have a 5 year old, you have
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  a 5 year old boy. Like he should have ran through
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  all that all that shit back there right now.
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  Although my kids are trying to take over my switch too.
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  Man, my daughter's Animal Crossing.
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  Hey, hey. So that's scary, but it's fine.
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  Oh, it's back in stock. What?
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  What's back in stock? A piece of a piece of furniture
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  I was looking for on Amazon is back in stock.
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  But thanks for that because I definitely got, I definitely got
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  sidetracked. Bowser Junior.
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  Bowser Junior. What a plus.
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  It's like we're medicated for that problem.
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  I am. These Bowser juniors look OK,
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  but they definitely look look like they definitely look like
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  they like you should be giving them to like a like like a six
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  month old. I mean they are stuffed animals
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  so I don't know. It was pretty nice quality
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  though. So my daughter got an EV so.
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  I mean, I'm not really scoffing at it, but I mean, at the same
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  time it was like that. Sounds like you're scoffing at
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  it just. A little bit.
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  Just throwing that out there. Anyways, solar on it's been a
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  week. Yeah, yeah, it's only been a
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  week. So I've.
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  I've lost. I've lost 12 lbs.
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  Look at you, I. Have not you know how I did it?
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  You stopped eating? I don't know.
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  Well, technically, yeah, because I've, because I've been on
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  again, off again sick for a while.
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  Well. Yeah, but but I lost all that
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  weight while I was sick. And then I went to the doctor's
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  on Monday and the weight was still gone.
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  So I was like, yes, I'll take that victory.
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  Because normally you get sick, you lose, you lose, you lose the
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  weight, and then he immediately comes back with a vengeance and
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  usually adds a couple of extra pounds to it in his weight.
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  Yeah, because your body wants to, you know, nourish itself
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  because you're, it's protecting itself, essentially.
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  Yeah, but you know, you know. But guess what, Laurent, Guess
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  what? What's up?
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  I think we should talk about all these next Gen. consoles
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  tonight. But first, do we want I, I mean,
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  I mean no, but yes, but no, it's too annoying.
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  It's annoying. All this stuff's really annoying
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  these days. Like remember when consoles
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  would just like come out and you would buy them and you would
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  just place them under your TV and you could just play games on
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  them and it wasn't this complicated or this expensive?
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  I do remember when $600.00 was a meme and not the actual price of
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  these consoles or cheaper than these consoles.
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  If you're talking about the Xbox Series X2 TB Galaxy Edition,
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  which is $800, that's besides the point though.
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  Not salty or anything, but first we should talk about what we've
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  been playing. LeBron.
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  I finished another video game. Oh man, you're you're now
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  dusting me. But then again.
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  You're this year. Yeah.
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  But then again, you're playing, you're playing games that can be
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  beaten in like, you know, like a, like a, like you can put in
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  a, you can put in a, a 40 hour work shift and beat those games.
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  I mean still. I'm not, I'm not saying it's a
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  bad thing, 'cause I, I'm playing, yeah, 'cause like when
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  I'm playing, it has a little bit of depth to it, you know?
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  Well, the one the one I'm I'm Fire Emblem has depth.
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  What are you talking? About I I know, I know as soon
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  as I as soon as came out of my mouth, I realized I said the
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  wrong thing. Fire Emblem does have depth.
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  But you know, like I can I can tell you this right now, like
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  you're playing Fire Emblem. I'm I'm almost done with the
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  with with with one with one scenario in front Mission 3.
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  I mean, that's those games are on my list this year too.
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  I'm going to be honest with you. But Laron, I've decided to take
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  a break from the turn based art strategy RPG sessions and I am
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  playing one of your favorite games right now and that is
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  Metroid 0 Mission I. Was about to say it had to be a
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  Metroid game. Yeah, playing Metroid 0 Mission
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  because you're not playing a Monster Hunter game.
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  No no I am not but I did re download it did re download
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  Monster Hunter Wilds but I have to play marathon stuff first
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  but. So do I.
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  Which which we'll talk which we'll talk about marathon in a
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  minute, but can I just say how how great Metroid 0 Mission is?
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  Yes, please. It is, it is, it is one of the
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  best like remakes ever made. Like in my opinion, it's
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  awesome. I love the way it looks.
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  I love the way it feels. I love running around the map
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  just like looking for stuff and, and the shooting feels good and
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  the ice beam feels good. And then you could like jump on
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  the enemies and like, it's just, I mean, I know you know all
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  this, but, and I know most Metroid people know all this,
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  but like, as someone who doesn't play very much Metroid like at
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  all. And the only Metro game I've
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  ever beaten is the original Metroid on NES.
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  Wait, really? Yeah, which is which is crazy
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  because this is a a remake and I'm I get lost so easily in this
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  game, but it's fine. The pixel art in this game is
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  like perfect dude. Like I can't tell you how
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  perfect this is. Like when those enemies come out
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  of like those kind of flying bugs come out of those Mario
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  looking warp pipes and they like shoot straight up and then they
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  shoot right at you and they're like little legs are like
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  twitching. And like, you know, the the that
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  one kind of mini boss that you fight to get the charge beam
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  that like, you know, that body goes up each side and kind of
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  builds these fake. Walls around the wall monster.
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  Yeah, and you have to like shoot the missiles in its face.
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  It's so good, man. Like I just, I don't know.
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  I, I, I've just, I found a new appreciation for these, that
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  late, late, late generation pixel art games.
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  And the fact that like the GBA is like probably the perfect
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  console for those is like, it's perfect, man.
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  I I love everything about 0 mission.
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  Like even the map system is like, even though I get lost,
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  the map system is actually much better than, you know, I think
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  people give it credit. For how are you getting lost in
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  0 mission when the map is basically the map?
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  Basically it's it's it's almost. Linear.
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  It's not that linear. You have, you have, you have
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  Brinstar in the middle and then you have Crade and and Norfair
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  at the bottom and Ridley's layers under Norfair, right.
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  But like. There are some more.
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  Of like, it's not like getting lost in terms of like where am
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  I? It's like where do I go next?
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  Is more of the the like I'm lost.
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  I need to figure out where to go next, but you know, because I
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  don't want to like go up through like the Chozo ruins and be
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  like, Oh well, I forgot to go down here to, you know, Ridley's
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  lair and get the thing I need down there to go through here.
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  You know, it's like it's, it's more of that than than, you
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  know, actually being lost. But I've been using a map from
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  omegametroid.com, which I don't really know much about that
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  site, but that the map they provide, it's kind of like the
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  Zelda dungeon. Zelda dungeon.
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  I don't know if you've ever been there for Zelda walkthroughs or
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  not. I I've I've I've been there a
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  couple of times. We stole Lazzi from them,
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  essentially, Yeah, thanks guys. But their walkthroughs are
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  really good. And they they essentially have
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  like walkthroughs and I think there's a podcast.
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  But yeah, man, I've just really been enjoying.
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  I've really been enjoying Metroid 0 Mission, man, it's so
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  cool. Even when you die, like in the
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  suit, explodes off of you in the pixel art of 0 Suit, Samus pops
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  out. It's so good, man.
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  Like it's just. And then when you go into a save
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  point and the little things kind of close around you and the
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  little warp thing kind of spins around.
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  That's so good. Yeah.
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  I love it. I love.
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  It Nah, they Nah, they they did a good, they did a good job with
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  the detail in that game. They really did.
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  And the crazy part is, they didn't even have to.
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  They could've just did what they they could've just did what they
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  did two years later and put the NES Metroid on a cartridge.
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  I know, I know they released that that whole NES line and
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  they just re released Metroid. Yeah.
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  It's like, yeah. I was like, I was like, I was
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  like, why would I get that when I have 0 mission?
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  Yeah, so I've decided that like after this I'm going to like
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  flip flop between series and Metroid is the 2D Metroids are a
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  series I'm going to play through.
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  The problem is La Ron. Well, I'm going to tell you
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  right now, Fusion's going to piss you off.
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  No, I I remember liking Fusion. I just don't.
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  What I mean what I mean is it's going to piss you off because
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  fusion is more complex than 0 mission.
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  Oh yeah, of course it is. 0 mission is not complex at all
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  compared to the rest of them, but.
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  And Fusion is very on, is very on rails like you like you can't
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  sequence break in that game like you can in in most of the Metro
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  games and odd stuff you're basically it says go, go here
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  and you can only go go there. My my concern is that to play
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  Sam's Returns I either have to play the chunky gameboy version
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  or I have to turn on my 3DS and play the the 3DS version.
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  You want to play a 3DS version? I'm gonna say that right now.
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  I I know, but I really don't want to play the three.
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  Why? Because it's so small and I have
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  to play a 3DS that's why. Your switch has spoiled you.
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  I know. Because I have I have a 3DS your
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  rock. Ally has spoiled you.
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  True, but I mean if I have to step back and play a game
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  because it's only available on the 3DS then I will.
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  You know, no, you're going to emulate it on a bigger screen.
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  Don't, don't, don't try to pull my leg here.
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  I know what's going on. I said nothing, I said nothing.
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  You. You said the words, I said
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  nothing. And you don't have to say
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  anything. Can I said it for you?
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  But yeah, I just, I'm really loving this game.
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  I have two abilities already that I need a different suit
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  for. So like I have to go have to go
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  fine. What suit do you have right now?
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  I don't. I haven't upgraded my suit at
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  all. So you're still on the basic,
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  You're still on our basic suit? Yeah.
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  OK, so you have not found, you have not found the, it's the.
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  I need the gravity suit or the various suit.
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  The various OK, OK, the gravity suit is actually the various
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  suit you get first. Oh, do you?
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  And then the gravity suit is last cause the gravity suit's
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  not let you run through water unfettered.
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  I I need the I need something to run through hot places
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  unfettered. That would be the various soup.
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  Yeah, which is? I don't even know where that's
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  at. You should be getting it soon.
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  You should be getting soon. You'd be great, right?
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  Yeah. You should be getting it soon
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  then. According to this map.
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  So I wait, what's the space jump?
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  I don't, I don't. I never got that.
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  Space jump. The space jump is just
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  somersaults. Oh wait, I beat Crade.
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  It's in the Crade area. Why didn't I get that?
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  Oh, you missed it. I did.
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  Maybe that's why I'm like missing so much because I don't
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  have the right. Maybe it's not as linear as I
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  thought it was if you missed if you missed that.
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  No. See what I did was I fought
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  crade and then instead of going through the area where crate is,
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  I went back up through the way I came in.
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  That's what the problem looks like.
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  Oh well, whatever. I'll go get it Not important.
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  So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm really enjoying my time with this and
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  like, I think this is this whole year has been a good let's go
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  back and play games I haven't played before because trying to
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  save money right now for a lot of different reasons.
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  And thanks to NSO and PlayStation and Xbox's
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  subscription services, I can go back to these games whenever I
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  want. So yeah, Metroid 0 mission's
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  awesome. Fire Emblem was the end of
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  firearm. I think I talked about it last
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  week, but I, I did finish that and it's I'm glad I played it.
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  Definitely not my favorite Fire Emblem, but also it was the
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  first one to come over here so. A lot of quality of life things
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  in the newer games that just make those better, but let's
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  see. Oh, and then marathon.
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  We have to talk about Marathon Lauren, which I know I'm going
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  to talk a lot about it on Xbox casuals, entire casuals the next
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  couple weeks. But so last week after the
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  server slam, I liked it, but I didn't love it.
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  I was playing it last last night, two nights ago, two
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  nights ago I was playing it. I load into this match and I put
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  my headset on for the first time in this game, right, just
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  because like I should probably be talking to people if they're
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  on my team. And I went from not loving it
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  till like, I really want to go back in and like keep playing
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  like after we were like after we record tonight, I'm going to go
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  play tonight because it's that fun.
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  It's that like going in and learning the maps and I haven't
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  unlocked the last map, which is like a whole another game in of
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  itself. There's like Destiny style raid
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  mechanics in that map and like trying to get into there's like
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  a map inside this ship that's in the middle of the map.
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  So there's like a map within a map essentially where like all
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  the best stuff is apparently. But, and I think this, I hate
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  saying it like this, but it feels like it's clear why
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  Destiny has been struggling for the last couple years because
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  their effort. And I know they're two separate
• 22:17
  teams and I know they're but you know, when people got laid off,
• 22:19
  they did move people around and they did move a lot of their PvP
• 22:25
  team over to the Marathon team. But this really feels like
• 22:31
  classic Bungie. Like this feels like when you
• 22:36
  would load into like a Halo map on Halo two or three and you
• 22:39
  would learn every single inch of these maps and you would know
• 22:41
  where all the weapons were and you would know where like, you
• 22:45
  know, secrets were and you could talk to people and coordinate
• 22:49
  and stuff. But it also feels a lot like
• 22:51
  Destiny where you like are communicating with your team
• 22:55
  and, you know, marking things on the map and saying, oh, there's
• 22:58
  health over here. There's you know, there's a
• 22:59
  sniper rifle over here, there's a weapon over here.
• 23:05
  And there's a lot of lore and terminals just unlocked the
• 23:09
  other day where like, you know, I, I don't know if you played
• 23:13
  classic Marathon, but like there were terminals in those games
• 23:17
  that told the story essentially. Well, now these terminals, you
• 23:22
  know, not only do they tell the story through like audio logs
• 23:25
  and stuff, but they start unlocking different things
• 23:28
  within the world. And, you know, finding one of
• 23:34
  these terminals, you know, kind of hacking these different
• 23:38
  things, learning the different cores and the different like
• 23:41
  move sets. There's a there's a character
• 23:44
  where like, I think it's a thief where you can have this drone,
• 23:49
  like you have a drone and you can fly it or, or you can't fly
• 23:53
  it, but it like hones in on an enemy and explodes on an enemy.
• 23:59
  But then like you can find a core for that drone.
• 24:03
  That's essentially Gallorhorn from destiny, which is like what
• 24:07
  happens? Gallorhorn was this really great
• 24:09
  rocket launcher that like once the rocket exploded, it had this
• 24:13
  perk called wolf head rounds where all the little pieces that
• 24:16
  exploded off of it became many rockets and they homed in on the
• 24:23
  enemy and also exploded and it was like this overpowered weapon
• 24:27
  and essentially this is drone has that ability now.
• 24:32
  I don't know, man. It's just a really, really
• 24:38
  impeccably designed game in terms of the maps and the
• 24:42
  shooting feels great because it's a bungee game and like,
• 24:46
  there's no class that really feels like, why is this here?
• 24:49
  You know, why? Why do you need to use this?
• 24:51
  You know, I've been using the medic and the Assassin a lot.
• 25:02
  I think the medic is called triage, but then there's also
• 25:07
  this this class that if you're going in by yourself, the Rook,
• 25:12
  which is like you go in by yourself in the middle of them
• 25:16
  and then the match is already going on, but you go in and you
• 25:18
  start collecting stuff for your next run.
• 25:20
  Essentially. It's just really, really fun to
• 25:26
  play. And like there was this moment
• 25:27
  when I was playing with other people, just random people that
• 25:31
  I loaded in with where none of us knew who we were beforehand,
• 25:36
  but we were like talking about it.
• 25:37
  And like, I haven't really played a whole lot.
• 25:39
  Or, you know, I haven't. I was playing Arc Raiders or,
• 25:43
  you know, someone was came over from Destiny and we were just
• 25:47
  talking and then all of a sudden we got in this firefight and we
• 25:50
  were all using different abilities to like help each
• 25:52
  other out and, you know, somebody got down.
• 25:55
  So I was the kind of the tanky character who has shoulder
• 25:59
  mounted rockets and like a blast shield essentially.
• 26:03
  And what I was doing was using my shoulder, I used my rockets
• 26:07
  to blast the enemy and then I held the shield up while the
• 26:10
  medic was helping the other character up.
• 26:14
  And like, it was this kind of cool moment.
• 26:16
  And what's going to start coming out of this game are stories
• 26:20
  like this of like, man, did you, you know, we, we infiltrated the
• 26:25
  base and like we put the blast doors up and, you know, we got
• 26:28
  in this huge firefight and we escaped, you know, barely
• 26:31
  escaped with this cool weapon. You know, it's like the stories
• 26:37
  that the community used to pull out for Destiny of like, you
• 26:41
  know, one of the raids, one of the exotic weapons was literally
• 26:45
  unlocked through binary code. Like you had to find the secret
• 26:50
  through binary code. And I think this new area in the
• 26:55
  new map that's going to unlock, that unlocks when you hit level
• 26:58
  12 is going to have things like that.
• 27:01
  You have to find different marathon keys essentially.
• 27:04
  And like different keys do different things.
• 27:06
  And you have to like find a certain amount to unlock the
• 27:10
  doors to get into the ship. And then there's enemies on the
• 27:13
  ship that you have to fight through to get the best stuff
• 27:15
  essentially. And I think I think that's where
• 27:21
  a lot of stories are going to start coming from is like
• 27:23
  community based puzzles and things like that.
• 27:28
  I'm a little concerned about the stickiness of this game, though,
• 27:31
  where it because like, obviously it's a extraction shooter, which
• 27:35
  is like, not the complete opposite of Destiny, right?
• 27:39
  Yeah, I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you how you
• 27:41
  feel about about it. You know extraction shooters
• 27:45
  because you tip, as long as I've known you, you don't really talk
• 27:48
  about extraction shooters. So how you feeling about?
• 27:50
  This. I've never really played one
• 27:53
  honestly. Like I mean Rainbow 6 extraction
• 27:57
  came to game pass a couple years ago and I think I played like
• 28:01
  less than an hour of it and I was like this is stupid.
• 28:04
  But the only other kind of extraction mode I ever played
• 28:08
  was the Dark Zone and the Division.
• 28:13
  And so like, I think when you when you go into marathon, you
• 28:21
  have to almost treat it like all the weapons are on borrowed time
• 28:26
  essentially. And it's not like Destiny where
• 28:29
  like you keep everything right once once you die, you lose the
• 28:33
  stuff that you had in your backpack, right?
• 28:35
  And so like as long as you go in knowing that you're going to
• 28:40
  lose, possibly lose the weapons that you're using or weapons
• 28:44
  that you find. It's not that big of a pain
• 28:46
  point then. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's
• 28:50
  definitely like I'm going to, it's my turn to use this gun and
• 28:54
  when I die, it's the next person's turn.
• 28:57
  Eventually those weapons kind of turn into the currency that you
• 29:01
  use in the game. The the only thing I have an
• 29:03
  issue with and I just, I just need to spend more time in the
• 29:06
  menus essentially. But like, man, the menus are so
• 29:10
  I heard the term text slop essentially was the term that I
• 29:15
  heard where like it is just man, it is full of text And like that
• 29:20
  blue screen of death, essentially that Windows P CS
• 29:23
  have with like this neon yellow text or like whatever kind of
• 29:27
  faction you're doing quest for, you know, menus kind of pop up
• 29:31
  in that, at least in my experience, maybe it's just like
• 29:37
  that all the time, but you know, it's just really hard to read.
• 29:44
  I wish there was a, a thing that lets you have your menus like,
• 29:47
  because Destiny's menus are like pretty clean, for the most part,
• 29:52
  simple to read, you know, dark background white texts, you
• 29:55
  know, but like, man, this is just this.
• 29:59
  These menus are all over the place, man, and they're just so
• 30:04
  I'm like, I get confused what I'm looking at essentially.
• 30:08
  And like certain buttons in the menu do different things when
• 30:11
  you're in game. So like starting a match, you
• 30:14
  press on Xbox at least, you press X to like load into a map,
• 30:20
  but then a is accept in the in the match, you know?
• 30:23
  So it's like, why don't you just have the buttons be the same
• 30:26
  thing? I don't really understand why
• 30:28
  that's different. But yeah, man, I I really like
• 30:35
  marathon a lot. Like I can see myself playing
• 30:38
  this a lot more over the coming weeks to months.
• 30:43
  My the real test is when the next season starts because you,
• 30:50
  and aside from like a couple, you know, stat things like your
• 30:56
  entire vault wipes, like you lose everything when the next
• 31:00
  season starts, like weapons, health packs, all that kind of
• 31:04
  stuff. I think your rank with these
• 31:07
  factions stays depending on the contracts that you do and the,
• 31:12
  and the quest that you go on. But like, it's, it's like a
• 31:16
  clean slate every season. So I think the real test is can
• 31:22
  they keep people playing after this first season knowing that
• 31:25
  you're going to lose everything? Yeah.
• 31:28
  And I almost, I, I hate comparing Marathon to Destiny
• 31:32
  because it is a totally different game.
• 31:34
  Like I would say if you're a Halo fan, you might like
• 31:36
  Marathon better than than if you're a Destiny fan,
• 31:40
  essentially. But I almost wonder if this is a
• 31:46
  test to, to be like, we should do Destiny 3 and everybody's
• 31:52
  stuff is going to disappear. That was like my. 1st.
• 31:56
  Thought right, because that was like the big that was like the
• 31:59
  big killer point for Destiny 2 was like all your stuff was
• 32:02
  supposed to carry over and then it didn't carry over because
• 32:07
  they were using a different engine or like a different
• 32:10
  version of the engine and they couldn't get your stuff to
• 32:13
  transfer over. And so like you had to go chase
• 32:16
  all the things that you were chasing for 2 1/2 years in
• 32:19
  destiny one in destiny 2 again. But you know, I, I, I think at
• 32:27
  this point a lot of people are just asking for like, put
• 32:31
  Destiny away for a year or two and then bring it back with
• 32:35
  Destiny 3. And I don't care if all my
• 32:38
  stuff's gone. Like they, what I wrote in my
• 32:42
  Edge of Fate review was like, this is where Destiny 3 should
• 32:45
  have started. Like this is Destiny 3IN all but
• 32:48
  name. And I almost feel like they
• 32:50
  should have done that. They're like maybe saved the
• 32:54
  edge of fate as the beginning of Destiny 3 and just kind of put
• 32:58
  Destiny away for a while or at least have like put it in
• 33:03
  maintenance mode. Essentially.
• 33:04
  We're like, OK, well, the hardcore are going to try to do
• 33:07
  these, this, this, this and this.
• 33:08
  We'll have in game events. We'll have, you know, maybe
• 33:11
  we'll put new dungeons and a raid in there to keep people
• 33:14
  satisfied. But like in terms of expansions,
• 33:16
  we're waiting for Destiny 3. And I almost wonder if like the
• 33:22
  idea behind this season wipe in Marathon will affect the future
• 33:26
  of Destiny. But again, I'm trying to keep in
• 33:32
  mind that these are two separate products and these are two
• 33:35
  separate styles of games. And I almost, I almost want to
• 33:42
  say like if you are, if you like, if you like Fortnite and
• 33:46
  you like looking for stuff in Fortnite, like exploring and
• 33:49
  finding different types of weapons and stuff, but you're
• 33:52
  looking for something like a little bit more hardcore and buy
• 33:54
  a little bit of hardcore. I mean, like this is a hardcore
• 33:57
  shooter. Like this is not for casual
• 34:00
  people at all. Like it's like maybe 2 steps
• 34:04
  below Tarkov at this point. Like essentially, you know it
• 34:10
  unless you're going in knowing you're going to die and you just
• 34:12
  want to have fun with your friends.
• 34:13
  Like a lot of people in this game are in it for the hardcore.
• 34:17
  There is one map that says beginner on it, which is like,
• 34:24
  Oh well, you need to complete the beginner quests here because
• 34:29
  you know, but it's funny because of the second map that opens up
• 34:34
  is it's the same area as the beginner map essentially, but
• 34:41
  just more stuff is happening and more things unlock.
• 34:47
  So that's my that's my impressions of Marathon.
• 34:51
  I think I've put between the service lamb and and the
• 34:55
  release. I've probably put about 10 or 15
• 34:57
  hours into it now. OK.
• 35:02
  But yeah, I I think it's great. I think that I think
• 35:06
  aesthetically it's really good looking game.
• 35:09
  It is, you know, despite the art stuff that happened and, and all
• 35:13
  these other things which that artist got credited as like a
• 35:18
  art. What did they call her?
• 35:23
  Oh, consultant I think. OK, I'm happy.
• 35:27
  I'm happy. I'm happy for that.
• 35:30
  Yeah, but. So basically, so basically the
• 35:34
  artwork is still kind of the same.
• 35:36
  A lot of it is the same. They took out a lot of the stuff
• 35:41
  that was like blatantly ripped off, but the aesthetic is the
• 35:45
  same. But yeah, it's a dude.
• 35:51
  It is such a it's such an amazing looking game.
• 35:54
  Like the weapons look cool. Like they just all have this
• 35:57
  cool like retro future kind of look to them, you know, like
• 36:03
  this, you know, this machine gun I found was like really like a
• 36:08
  rounded, squared off kind of grid Tron looking thing.
• 36:13
  Like the submachine gun I found was basically like this.
• 36:17
  I don't even know how to describe what it looked like.
• 36:20
  This is just this rounded black rectangle with like these blue
• 36:25
  marks on it. It just the weapons just look
• 36:30
  cool, man. Like, and, and, but that's
• 36:33
  always been like since Destiny one, Bungie's been making cool
• 36:36
  looking weapons, you know, and like this is just kind of more
• 36:39
  of that, except the weapons, you know, are weapons.
• 36:45
  They're not like RPG weapons. They're they're guns, you know,
• 36:48
  like you shoot them and they do what they're supposed to do.
• 36:51
  You know, it's, it's cool, man. Highly recommend marathon.
• 36:57
  It's 40 bucks. Do should probably say Full
• 37:02
  disclosure, Bungee did provide us codes for marathon.
• 37:06
  Yes, Yeah, yeah, I have to. Yeah, I have.
• 37:09
  I have to get my hands dirty with it because I, I don't know,
• 37:11
  like, like I was trying to get into the, the service slam that
• 37:15
  this past the past weekend and just just, and I'm and I'm
• 37:20
  pretty sure it probably had something to do on my end and
• 37:22
  not so much the game 'cause I saw people, I saw people talking
• 37:25
  about it, you know, and I'm like, OK, yeah, it's, I'm pretty
• 37:28
  sure like it, whatever it was, it was, it was an issue on my
• 37:30
  side and not so much the game itself, but I, but yeah, after
• 37:34
  that I was like, you know how, you know, like one thing goes
• 37:38
  wrong, you just lose that momentum.
• 37:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that feeling all too well.
• 37:45
  Yep, anything else been playing? That's, that's kind of it, man.
• 37:50
  I've been, I've been working on some other stuff trying to, you
• 37:56
  know, there's some, you know, power blocks hitting some major
• 37:59
  milestones this year and this shows hitting a major milestone
• 38:03
  later this year. And I'm just trying to, I'm
• 38:05
  trying to get some stuff ready for that sort of thing.
• 38:09
  I'm not going to pack so you know, I'm going to have some
• 38:12
  free time during that weekend to, to work on stuff, but.
• 38:20
  Was not going to pack the necessary decision or you just
• 38:23
  you just felt you just felt like you didn't have time with
• 38:26
  everything going on. I mean, it was, it was a little
• 38:29
  bit of both. Honestly, it's just, dude, it's
• 38:33
  so expensive right now to, to go anywhere and like trying to save
• 38:37
  money and, and pay bills and do all these other things.
• 38:41
  It just wasn't like I, I really wanted to go.
• 38:45
  I really did. But I mean, at the end of the
• 38:49
  day, you know, there there's, it's, I can't be spending that
• 38:54
  much money going somewhere when there's other things that need
• 38:57
  done, you know, right. Yeah, yeah, I understand it.
• 39:02
  So I don't know, maybe, maybe W we'll see.
• 39:08
  But yeah, it just wasn't in the cards.
• 39:14
  But I hope everybody has fun. I'm pretty sure they I'm pretty
• 39:18
  sure they will have fun. They always have fun.
• 39:21
  I know it is fun. It's just, you know, expensive.
• 39:29
  What do you what do you play in the wrong?
• 39:30
  How's front mission? It's it's I'm almost done.
• 39:34
  I'm almost done for you, Lisa, the Elisa mission.
• 39:36
  I, I, I did say, I did say that that I wasn't as soon as I beat
• 39:41
  it, I was not going to play the Emma mission, But I saw someone,
• 39:45
  I saw someone online doing during a let's play of it and
• 39:48
  they were playing the Emma mission.
• 39:49
  And I was like, you know what, Maybe I will play the second
• 39:54
  scenario just because I mean, I mean like the game the game has
• 39:59
  the game has a you can, you can go 11 scenario or the other in
• 40:03
  your in your playthrough. There is just one decision you
• 40:06
  make that sets that sets one path from the other.
• 40:09
  It's literally one decision. It's not like a a serious
• 40:12
  decisions puts you this way or, or that way.
• 40:15
  It's really one decision. And I was like, and what I, what
• 40:19
  I should have done thinking about it was I should have saved
• 40:22
  the file right before that. But but but I think.
• 40:28
  Now, don't give me a line because if I, if I remember
• 40:30
  correctly, I think you can carry over like certain characters
• 40:33
  that show up in, in both missions.
• 40:36
  You can carry over the skills. But don't, don't quote me on
• 40:38
  that because it's been a long time since I played Front
• 40:40
  Mission 3. But yeah, like I'm almost, I, I
• 40:44
  think I'm more than 2/3 of the way through.
• 40:46
  I'd say I'm probably like like 4/5 of the way through at this
• 40:49
  point. So like, I'll have that game
• 40:50
  beaten real soon. Nice.
• 40:53
  Maybe in another week or so. I basically, I basically rung
• 40:58
  every drop out of the Monster Hunter Stories 3 trial trial
• 41:01
  version. So yeah, I'm definitely waiting
• 41:04
  for that game to come out. Yeah.
• 41:06
  It comes out soon too, right? That comes out this week.
• 41:09
  Yeah, it comes out. It comes out this week and I'm
• 41:11
  trying to figure out should I should I just buy it out right
• 41:14
  or should I beat the second one and then buy this third?
• 41:17
  One. Oh man, that's a tough decision.
• 41:21
  I know, right? I know, right?
• 41:22
  Because I've never, there's only been 1 Monster Hunter game in
• 41:26
  the history of Monster Hunter that I took my time to buy.
• 41:30
  And that was the Monster Hunter Monster Hunter Generations for
• 41:32
  the, for the, for the Switch slash Wii U or, you know, yeah,
• 41:37
  like the, and the reason and the reason why I didn't, well #1 the
• 41:40
  reason why I didn't buy it was because I didn't have a Switch
• 41:42
  at the time that it came out. And then then by the time I got
• 41:45
  a Switch, Monster Hunter World was out so and so like, and once
• 41:52
  I got used to playing Monster Hunter World, I was like, there
• 41:54
  is no way in hell I'm going back to legacy, to legacy Monster
• 41:57
  Hunter. There's no going back.
• 42:00
  Yeah, Yeah. No, no, trust me, if you, if you
• 42:03
  like playing, if you like, if you get, if you get set playing
• 42:06
  a game that has modern controls. When I say modern, I mean
• 42:09
  controls that work for the that work for the decade of gaming
• 42:13
  we're in versus like, you know, a game that came out in 2004 and
• 42:16
  ran and ran for about for about 17 years before a modern version
• 42:22
  came out. It hits hard.
• 42:24
  It hits hard. You know, it's like there's a
• 42:26
  certain things, you know, like even with all the quality of
• 42:28
  life changes that were made before World came out, I was
• 42:31
  like, there's no way in hell I'm going back.
• 42:34
  I have not turned on an old monster.
• 42:36
  I've not turned on an old pre Monster Hunter World game since
• 42:39
  Monster Hunter World came out. Yeah.
• 42:42
  I mean, why would you though? I mean, there's no, there's no
• 42:45
  really reason to unless you like are want to torture yourself I
• 42:49
  guess. But the crazy part is I see
• 42:51
  people online all the time playing like Monster Hunter,
• 42:54
  Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Monster Hunter 3, Ultimate,
• 42:58
  Monster Hunter 4, Monster Hunter Generations.
• 43:01
  They're playing them. They're playing live on Twitch
• 43:03
  and YouTube. And I'm like, man, Yeller, I
• 43:07
  thought I'm hardcore. They got to be hardcore because
• 43:10
  like, there's you. I don't even know if you could
• 43:13
  pay me good money to go back and play those games.
• 43:16
  I mean, I'm, I'm sure if somebody paid you, you would,
• 43:18
  you would go back, probably grumble, but you would go.
• 43:22
  Back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:24
  But I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know, like they're, I
• 43:28
  mean, my favorite game, Monster unreportable third, it is my
• 43:30
  favorite out of all of them. And that's a game that didn't
• 43:32
  even come to the United States. You had to import that game a
• 43:34
  lot of stuff that a lot of some of the stuff that that that that
• 43:38
  was in portable third wound up coming to later games or or
• 43:43
  later or later iterations of Monster Hunter.
• 43:45
  And and almost every creature that we've seen in the in
• 43:48
  monster in portable third found his way to the to like the
• 43:52
  flagship Monster Hunter games. Shocking games.
• 43:58
  I mean, it's, that's the thing, that's the thing, you know, and,
• 44:02
  and you know, like we miss, we miss these, these, these
• 44:05
  monsters, these events and all the stuff when the, when the new
• 44:08
  game comes out. But eventually they find they
• 44:09
  way their way right back to us. Like, I mean, Gogmazios, which
• 44:14
  is like one of the end game monsters for Monster Hunter 4
• 44:16
  ultimate is now in Monster Hunter Wilds and no one is and
• 44:20
  no one has seen that monster. Let me see.
• 44:23
  We've had Monster Hunter 4 ultimate.
• 44:25
  OK, so we have Monster Hunter world.
• 44:27
  Well, let's count generations 2 cause so generations world and
• 44:31
  Iceborn and then rising Sunbreak.
• 44:35
  So yeah, like technically haven't seen that monster for
• 44:37
  three games. And you got to think about the
• 44:42
  gap in time from from how those games released.
• 44:44
  So it's been a, it's been a long time.
• 44:47
  It sounds like it sounds like what Pokémon does.
• 44:49
  We're like some, you know, where some will like not show up
• 44:57
  certain generations and then other ones will show up, you
• 44:59
  know, they'll show up later and people will be like, Oh my gosh.
• 45:02
  Yeah, yeah, I I can see that. I don't know.
• 45:05
  I'm not a, I'm not a Pokémon guy.
• 45:06
  Maybe that doesn't happen, but I'm not.
• 45:10
  Really. A Pokémon?
• 45:11
  I'm not really a Pokémon person either, as a matter of fact.
• 45:13
  As a matter of fact, I stopped watching the cartoon a long time
• 45:17
  ago. This.
• 45:18
  Yeah, I mean, my, it's funny, My daughter is playing Animal
• 45:22
  Crossing right now and like she's she sees commercials for
• 45:26
  the the Pokémon one that just came out.
• 45:28
  What's it called? Poke Some stupid name, Pokopia
• 45:32
  or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 45:34
  She's like, I want that Pokémon Animal Crossing.
• 45:37
  I'm like, well, get a Switch too.
• 45:42
  I don't know what to tell you. Get your own anyways, sorry, I
• 45:48
  didn't mean to interrupt you, it was just reminding me of that.
• 45:52
  Nah, Nah, I can't, I can't wait. I can't wait for you to get on
• 45:55
  on the on the podcast when they be like my kids have my switch.
• 45:57
  To I mean, I've, I'm seriously like thinking about getting a
• 46:01
  second one. Like I and that's, you know, not
• 46:05
  a joke. They for some reason, all they
• 46:09
  want to do is play switch and switch to to the point where
• 46:13
  like I I hooked up might switch 1 and put all the games that
• 46:17
  they like to play on there. But like they just, they know.
• 46:22
  They just know, man. They just, they just know.
• 46:29
  Like, you know, oh, this is this is the old one.
• 46:32
  Like, yeah, but it's also the one I'm not using.
• 46:35
  And if you want to play games, you know, Oh my gosh, kids, man,
• 46:46
  they, I don't know, don't I'm afraid to like, leave my kids.
• 46:53
  At home we, we've got to say, don't have kids.
• 46:56
  If you want to have nice things. Yeah, OK.
• 46:59
  Well, there's that. I mean, I'm afraid to leave my
• 47:02
  switch at home with with them when they're going from school.
• 47:07
  Afraid what I'm going to come home to, but it's fine.
• 47:12
  I'm glad that I'm glad that they are finding games that they
• 47:15
  enjoy. But also stop playing my Switch.
• 47:18
  That's all I'm saying. Get them Switch lights.
• 47:24
  Tell them shut up. You know, my son wants to play
• 47:26
  his Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers anyway, so I have to
• 47:31
  figure that one out. Are you playing?
• 47:35
  What else are you playing? I mean that just those, just
• 47:39
  those right now in Tekken 8, like I, I swear I'm in, I'm in
• 47:43
  this rut. I'm in this rut and I can't, I
• 47:45
  can't get out of it with, with Tekken right now.
• 47:47
  Like I'm, I'm trying to, I'm trying to rank up, rank up a
• 47:52
  little bit more before season 3 starts.
• 47:54
  Season 3 starts March 17th and I'm trying to rank up one more,
• 47:59
  advance, one more rank because when Season 3 starts, they're
• 48:02
  doing a rank reset. So basically everybody's going
• 48:04
  to drop down the tier from where they're at.
• 48:06
  And so that means that means from where I'm at, I'm literally
• 48:09
  going to drop. I'm literally going to drop 5
• 48:13
  ranks. Which?
• 48:17
  It's, it's, it's a tier though, Like, I mean, it's not going to
• 48:20
  be, it's not going to be that much of a problem.
• 48:22
  I think, you know, but I do. I do hate rank resets.
• 48:26
  But then again, this is very similar to what you're talking
• 48:29
  about with new campaigns for, for for marathon, you know, you
• 48:34
  know, they're not going to take away, they won't take away
• 48:36
  everything like like they will in marathon.
• 48:38
  But at the same time, like it's going that that rank reset's
• 48:41
  going to suck, you know, because like it sucked when season 2
• 48:44
  came out and, and I didn't realize the rank reset.
• 48:47
  It happened. So I was looking, I was like,
• 48:49
  wait, my character wasn't my character wasn't this rank.
• 48:51
  I was higher than this and I had to fight my way back to it.
• 48:59
  Yeah, Yeah. Well, I believe in you, Lauren.
• 49:03
  Thanks. Thanks.
• 49:04
  I'm not sure how much, I'm not sure how much more energy I'm
• 49:06
  going to have for it, though. I mean, like, like season 3 is
• 49:09
  coming out, they're releasing 3 more characters for it, like,
• 49:12
  and all three characters are, well, three characters.
• 49:17
  They're all they're, they're technically returning
• 49:19
  characters, but the one character no one's seen since
• 49:24
  Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and and, and in Tekken Tag Tournament 2,
• 49:29
  like when that character was in Tekken Tag Tournament 2, that
• 49:31
  character had not been seen since Tekken five.
• 49:35
  Wait, wait, wait, is that right? Is that right?
• 49:39
  Hold on. Hold on Tekken Tag Tournament 2
• 49:42
  I remember they made such a big deal that the Wii U got that
• 49:45
  game and like you could dress them up as Mario characters
• 49:50
  master. Let me see.
• 49:58
  OK, so technically, OK, so so it's it's Rodger Junior that's
• 50:02
  the character I'm talking about the kangaroo.
• 50:05
  And according to this, what was the last mainstream appearance
• 50:12
  for for Rodger Junior? Because Tekken Tag Tournament 2
• 50:15
  is not considered a main the mainstream Tekken game because
• 50:18
  it doesn't the, the Tekken Tag Tournament games don't do, don't
• 50:21
  do a lot to advance the story progression of, of Tekken.
• 50:24
  There are some things in there they're they, you know, kind of
• 50:26
  get, kind of get borrowed for like the, the mainstream Tekken
• 50:29
  games. But the tag Tournament games are
• 50:31
  more like a fantasy game. So, so think like would smash.
• 50:34
  Well, I don't know, Smash Brothers is his own thing, but
• 50:36
  but you know what I mean though, right?
• 50:37
  You know, basically, yeah, yeah, but I'm trying to figure out
• 50:41
  'cause shoot. Well, number one, I hate, I
• 50:44
  hate, I hate all the I called them joke characters.
• 50:49
  I call them Joe characters. Like come on, like, come on,
• 50:52
  man, like like we have a fighting game, We have a
• 50:54
  fighting game, right? You know where, like, you know,
• 50:57
  people trying to win a win a fighting tournament for money.
• 50:59
  This is not second started right.
• 51:01
  People were, I mean, it's like all the, it's all like all the
• 51:03
  weird guest characters in Mortal Kombat, right?
• 51:05
  We're like, yeah, you know, this world, even though the world is
• 51:09
  stupid and silly, it still takes itself seriously.
• 51:12
  You know, like within. The world.
• 51:14
  So just think about this, though.
• 51:15
  We've had bears show up in this game.
• 51:17
  We've had we've had dinosaurs show up in this game.
• 51:19
  We, we we've had a kangaroo, we've had fighting Kangaroos
• 51:22
  show up in this game. You know, it's just some really
• 51:26
  wild shit. So I call so I, I literally call
• 51:28
  them joke characters to the point where like they, they
• 51:31
  pissed me off so much, right? Yeah.
• 51:33
  OK, so last appearance with Roger Junior was in Tekken 6.
• 51:37
  Now Tekken eights version of Rodger Junior.
• 51:39
  It's the, it's the, it's the baby.
• 51:41
  So the little, the little Joey that was in the pouch has grown
• 51:44
  up. He's grown up now, you know, and
• 51:48
  now he's back in the game and I'm like, I'm like, there's a
• 51:50
  part of me it's like, man, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm
• 51:54
  going to hate this entire season because I mean, you know, like 3
• 51:56
  new characters coming out. Well, three, three returning
• 52:00
  characters plus one brand new character, supposedly 1 brand
• 52:02
  new character to build from the ground up for that.
• 52:04
  So it's going to be 4 new character.
• 52:05
  There's going to be 4 new additions to the game.
• 52:08
  So Kunimitsu, which was adlc character from Tekken 7 is
• 52:12
  showing up and Kunimitsu was one of the last, the final DLC
• 52:15
  characters from Tekken 7. So she's coming in.
• 52:18
  Bob, who was who was in Tekken Tekken 7's roster is coming
• 52:24
  back. And then we got Rodger Junior,
• 52:26
  who we haven't seen since Tekken 6.
• 52:27
  And then we got a new character that that's been that has not
• 52:30
  been announced as as of yet, you know, and, and I'm just trying
• 52:34
  to, I'm literally just trying to like get, get to Tekken God
• 52:37
  because because the highest rank I've attained so far is Tekken
• 52:39
  Emperor and I got demoted a couple of nights ago back to
• 52:43
  Tekken King, which is no big deal.
• 52:44
  Like I'm going to get Tekken emperor.
• 52:46
  I just got to, yeah, I mean, yeah, I lost, I lost the rank,
• 52:50
  you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get that rank back
• 52:54
  before I get pop back like 4 ranks, you know?
• 52:58
  Yeah. So that's, that's my, that's my
• 53:00
  dilemma. You know, it's not really a
• 53:03
  dilemma. It's it's it's right now.
• 53:05
  It's a fun problem to have, you know what I mean?
• 53:08
  Yeah, no, I I get it. I know.
• 53:10
  Yeah, yeah. So it is what it is.
• 53:16
  Yep, these games, man, it's, it's these games will that will
• 53:21
  hook you in weird ways, you know, Yeah.
• 53:23
  Yeah, and I'm, I'm and I'm digging it.
• 53:29
  You know what? You know what we're we're not
• 53:31
  digging. We're on.
• 53:33
  Unless you have something else you were playing.
• 53:35
  No, that's, that's it I think. I think, I think I'm playing
• 53:37
  enough even though, even though you talking about Metroid 0
• 53:40
  missions making me want to like spark up some Metroid 0 mission.
• 53:44
  It's pretty good, just saying it's pretty good.
• 53:48
  It's pretty good. It looks nice, plays nice.
• 53:51
  I have it on that pixel perfect mode on Switch 2.
• 53:56
  Explain Pixel. Perfect mode.
• 53:59
  So like instead of like CRT where things are like it's
• 54:07
  essentially like high definition 4 three, essentially where like
• 54:12
  everything like you can see the literally see the pixels instead
• 54:16
  of them being kind of blurry in A43 format.
• 54:19
  OK, OK, OK. So it looks really nice, looks
• 54:24
  really nice. There's weird CRT filters and
• 54:26
  weird like screen filters for some of these.
• 54:29
  I'm like, who uses these? Like I understand they're fun to
• 54:34
  play around with for like 2 minutes, but like who really
• 54:36
  plays with these? But that's just me, I guess.
• 54:42
  You know, somebody might play with these Le Ron.
• 54:47
  You know what we probably won't be playing on?
• 54:50
  It's a $1200 Xbox. Oh hell yeah.
• 54:54
  No, no. So as of this recording, we're
• 54:59
  recording on Wednesday the 11th. So Microsoft gave AGDC
• 55:05
  presentation on the Project Helix, which is the next Xbox
• 55:12
  kind of PC console hybrid thing that people are still confused
• 55:17
  on what's going on. They did announce A reviving the
• 55:20
  backwards compatibility thing for the 25th anniversary, which
• 55:26
  is like, I don't know how much more you can revive, but OK, I
• 55:31
  guess. Maybe we'll finally get Marvel
• 55:34
  Ultimate Alliance since Activision published that.
• 55:40
  Probably not, but maybe. Or those Transformers games, the
• 55:44
  Cybertron Transformers games. That'd be nice.
• 55:49
  I don't know. I want to mock you and say
• 55:50
  that's wishful thinking, but you never know.
• 55:53
  It's Microsoft, Their console's going to cost $1200.
• 55:56
  I do know it's not Give people what they want.
• 56:00
  No. Nah, but on top of that,
• 56:07
  obviously the PlayStation 6 rumors are heating up and the
• 56:13
  Steam Machine is launching. Aiming for Deck verified games
• 56:17
  at 1080P30 frames a second is what I saw today.
• 56:22
  Which is like, I don't know man. I don't know how to feel about
• 56:27
  that. I'm still very confused at what
• 56:31
  the purpose of the Steam Machine is.
• 56:33
  Laron, can you? Can you?
• 56:35
  You and me both, man. Come on.
• 56:37
  Come. On I thought it was like, I
• 56:39
  thought it was like, OK, well, they're they're clearly going to
• 56:41
  like they clearly want to have a box in the living room that
• 56:46
  plays your steam games similar to the steam deck and like, you
• 56:49
  know, maybe instead of you know, 1080P30, it'll run it at like
• 56:53
  1440 P 60 or something. You know, not not like high high
• 56:58
  settings or anything, but maybe like mid settings, you know,
• 57:01
  like whatever. No, I'm just very confused at
• 57:07
  why this box is going to exist. Honestly.
• 57:10
  Like I, I feel like this is an 1/2 step.
• 57:16
  Like if you're going to do this, you should go all out.
• 57:19
  I know components are expensive and everything, but like why not
• 57:23
  just take the extra step and like, I don't know, I don't care
• 57:27
  that it's 1080P, but like 30 frames a second.
• 57:29
  Like people are like, even normies are like getting angry
• 57:33
  at 30 frames a second now, you know?
• 57:36
  Yeah, yeah. So why does this box exist?
• 57:39
  Laurent, help me, help me understand.
• 57:42
  I think I, I, I really don't. I really don't have an answer
• 57:45
  for this. I think, I think, I think Valve.
• 57:50
  Valve had an idea and the world went to shit before it could be
• 57:55
  realized. That's what I really, that's
• 58:00
  what I really think. Because I mean, you know, like,
• 58:04
  like, like the one thing I say for sure, all of them, all, all
• 58:08
  three of these things that we're going to talk about, you know,
• 58:10
  they have AMD, Zen, Zen, Zen architecture, you know, for CPU
• 58:15
  structure. But but the Valve Steam Machine
• 58:20
  is literally a generation, actually 2 generations behind.
• 58:25
  Yeah, I'm like, if you want that, you should just get a
• 58:27
  switch too, you know, like a generation behind.
• 58:29
  No offense to switch too. I love my switch too.
• 58:31
  But like, I'm not, you know, I'm shocked that Resident Evil 9
• 58:36
  runs at 60 frames a second on that thing, you know?
• 58:40
  Yeah. I don't know they're targeting
• 58:42
  1080P60 for the steam machine but.
• 58:45
  Are they I? I thought I saw 30 somewhere
• 58:47
  maybe? I saw, I saw 30.
• 58:48
  I saw 30 at one point. I I, I think every console, I
• 58:51
  think every console is shooting for 30 stable, you know, well,
• 58:55
  guaranteeing 30 stable, you know, yeah.
• 58:59
  I mean, you know, 1616 gigs of DDR5 RAM +8 gigs of B RAM.
• 59:08
  That's, that's interesting given that, you know, right now, like
• 59:11
  modern games, modern games thrive in the, in the 12 Gigabit
• 59:15
  VRAM VRAM realm. As a matter of fact, the sweet
• 59:18
  spot is 14. You know?
• 59:22
  You know, and that's based off of what the PS-5 and the Series
• 59:25
  X can do. I mean the Series X can do I
• 59:33
  mean it, it depends on the game honestly, right, Because like
• 59:37
  Destiny can run at 4K120 and PVPPVP right?
• 59:42
  Like it can run, but then you get games that can hardly run at
• 59:48
  30 frames a second on that thing.
• 59:49
  So you know, like Final Fantasy 16 I think on the Series X runs
• 59:54
  at 720P30 frames a second I think is like.
• 1:00:00
  It's something I don't, I don't know the exact specs, but it's
• 1:00:02
  something really low like that. It's like, but how?
• 1:00:07
  Why this thing supposedly like super powerful, You know what
• 1:00:12
  about what happened to all these teraflops, Lauren?
• 1:00:15
  Remember when teraflops was a term being thrown around?
• 1:00:18
  Yeah, yeah. That is, that is weird.
• 1:00:20
  We don't, that is weird. We don't talk about that
• 1:00:22
  anymore. They don't talk about that
• 1:00:23
  anymore, do they? You know teraflops is not.
• 1:00:26
  Something I mean, I mean the problem is T flops is a real
• 1:00:31
  thing though. That's that's the crazy part.
• 1:00:33
  I know, but nobody, nobody cares.
• 1:00:35
  You know, here's the thing. I think people care about specs,
• 1:00:41
  but they only care about them in terms that they understand.
• 1:00:44
  Right. Yeah, yeah, and, and, and let's
• 1:00:46
  be honest with the average consumer didn't know what the
• 1:00:48
  what the shit a teraflop was. I had to look it up when they
• 1:00:51
  first started talking about it. I didn't know what 1 was.
• 1:00:55
  I'm I mean, I'm dumb, but. I, I work, I work in tech, I
• 1:00:59
  work in the, in the, in the area of tech that this thing matters
• 1:01:02
  and, and, and, and I need the refresher on this, you know.
• 1:01:06
  Yeah, so I it's just like, Oh my gosh, what is happening here?
• 1:01:11
  You know, like what, what, Why do I care how many teraflops
• 1:01:15
  you're using? But yeah, man, like, but then
• 1:01:21
  you go, you swing the other direction right where like you
• 1:01:25
  go from the Steam machine that's like this low powered,
• 1:01:28
  supposedly consumer friendly steam, you know, essentially
• 1:01:32
  Steam box to like this, you know, pricing out the the next
• 1:01:37
  Xbox, which they've already said is going to be a premium
• 1:01:39
  machine. Now granted I'm sure they're
• 1:01:43
  going to try to subsidize subsidized this somehow, but
• 1:01:46
  like pricing out the components it's like 8-9 anywhere between
• 1:01:50
  899 and 1199 like pricing out the components in today's market
• 1:01:58
  like I don't I don't quite understand how that's going to
• 1:02:05
  work. That's not that's not plausible.
• 1:02:07
  That's not plausible for the way the economy is right now and the
• 1:02:10
  way the and the and I, and I hate to say it, the way the
• 1:02:12
  gaming scene is right now. Like, you mean, you know, like.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah, I I, I just feel like if you want that PC gaming
• 1:02:21
  experience that they're trying to sell people just.
• 1:02:25
  This ain't it. This, this isn't this isn't it.
• 1:02:28
  You should like, if you're going to make a console type box, you
• 1:02:31
  should be catering to your console like and like I
• 1:02:38
  understand like backwards compatibility and everything.
• 1:02:40
  Like as an Xbox user, like I love using my Xbox, but like I'm
• 1:02:48
  not spending that much money on the next console.
• 1:02:52
  Like I'm looking at what PlayStation is doing with their
• 1:02:56
  next Gen. essentially, right? Where like they're going to have
• 1:03:00
  a sort of a mid tier machine, right?
• 1:03:03
  Like it's going to be more powerful than the PlayStation 5
• 1:03:05
  Pro. According to Tom from Moore's
• 1:03:09
  Law is Dead. He's saying that it could run
• 1:03:12
  games, it'll be able to run games at 4K120 with, with full
• 1:03:21
  ray tracing based on what this, you know, what they're using
• 1:03:26
  between components in the PSSRVR kind of upscaling, AI upscaling
• 1:03:33
  stuff. And plus this AMD chip that
• 1:03:39
  they're using is apparently, you know, going to help with a lot
• 1:03:42
  of this too. But like, you know, essentially
• 1:03:46
  like you're going to, they're going to sell a $600.00 box and
• 1:03:49
  your closest competition is going to sell $1000 box at the
• 1:03:53
  low point. At the low point, at the low
• 1:03:55
  point because like there's estimates that it might be 1400
• 1:03:58
  dollars, yeah. And like, and like, you're going
• 1:04:01
  to like, you could essentially buy the PlayStation 6 and the
• 1:04:05
  handheld. Yeah.
• 1:04:08
  We're cheaper than the Xbox. You know, it's wild.
• 1:04:11
  It's. It's because you look at you
• 1:04:12
  look at the Xbox and like then people like to have that same
• 1:04:15
  experience as the the next Gen. PlayStation, right?
• 1:04:17
  If you want that handheld, like you're looking at the ROG Ally
• 1:04:20
  or the ROG Ally X like or whatever the next version of
• 1:04:23
  that machine's going to be right?
• 1:04:25
  It's like which? I don't think, I don't think, I
• 1:04:28
  don't think Asus is going to is going to partner with Microsoft
• 1:04:31
  in the next in the next ROG Ally.
• 1:04:34
  You don't think? I don't think so.
• 1:04:36
  I don't think so. Because, because, because I
• 1:04:39
  think, I, I, I, I believe I read somewhere that the, that the,
• 1:04:43
  that the Xbox ROG allies have not sold anywhere close to what
• 1:04:47
  they thought it was going to sell.
• 1:04:50
  I wonder, I wonder why. It's because the people who
• 1:04:52
  really wanted one bought one or two like you.
• 1:04:56
  You know, like like you bought the.
• 1:04:59
  The more powerful one. I've got the original ROG Ally.
• 1:05:02
  I've got the original ROG Ally and the ROG LAX is in my
• 1:05:05
  bedroom. Yeah, so like, how much more
• 1:05:08
  powerful is the Xbox ROG Ally X compared to the regular X?
• 1:05:15
  The Xbox ROG Ally X is God. Don't.
• 1:05:20
  Don't like? Is it significantly more
• 1:05:21
  powerful? No, no, no.
• 1:05:25
  Like if you were to tell someone to buy one of them, which one
• 1:05:29
  would you recommend just based on like?
• 1:05:31
  I would tell them to spin. I would tell them to spins.
• 1:05:35
  Wait, wait, wait, hold on the ROG Ally.
• 1:05:37
  The original ROG Ally cost me $600.00.
• 1:05:40
  The ROG Ally X cost me $800. I tell them to spend the $800
• 1:05:44
  and buy the ROG Ally X. You know, buy the ROG Ally X and
• 1:05:48
  don't and and you know what don't even put the Xbox
• 1:05:51
  experience on there. Don't even do that.
• 1:05:54
  You know, unless, unless, unless it's already preloaded.
• 1:05:57
  Get this Corey right now. Right now, I cannot update the
• 1:06:00
  firmware, the Asus ROG Ally X because of the Xbox experience.
• 1:06:05
  Every time the system has a reboot, it reboots right back
• 1:06:09
  into the experience, so it never gets into the BIOS mode.
• 1:06:12
  It's kind of pissed me off. That's that's really pissed me
• 1:06:15
  off. Can you uninstall the Xbox
• 1:06:17
  experience? I can, I can, but it that means
• 1:06:20
  I have to take it out of developer mode, which I I'm one
• 1:06:23
  of those people when I put, when I put a, when I when I put a
• 1:06:26
  window machine in developer mode, I don't like taking it out
• 1:06:29
  of it because use that means formatting it to to start over.
• 1:06:33
  Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, I don't know, maybe when
• 1:06:37
  the see a firmware update, you know, I'm, I'm one of those
• 1:06:41
  people like, you know, like I, I run after firmware updates as
• 1:06:44
  soon as they're out. A firmware update though, you
• 1:06:46
  know what? I can I, I guess I can live
• 1:06:48
  without for right now until like it's a firmware update that
• 1:06:50
  actually updates a whole bunch of features.
• 1:06:52
  But but the but the next GPU update comes well, the APU
• 1:06:56
  update comes out for which basically is the the the graphic
• 1:06:59
  side of it. If a major one comes out for
• 1:07:01
  that and I can't update it, I'm going to be I'm going to be
• 1:07:04
  pissed. Yeah.
• 1:07:08
  I mean, I would be I guess. But also, but also I think I
• 1:07:14
  just I don't know, I think I think Microsoft kind of I'm not
• 1:07:18
  going to say it's screwed over Asus.
• 1:07:20
  But remember, the reason why the Xbox wrong Ally happened is
• 1:07:24
  because Microsoft was trying to make its own handheld but
• 1:07:29
  couldn't guarantee Asus like you know, the numbers, you know, for
• 1:07:32
  like I what was it wasn't wasn't that Asus was trying to get it
• 1:07:36
  get it like a million chips, you know?
• 1:07:39
  It was. It was more than that.
• 1:07:40
  It was more than that, OK. It was like something
• 1:07:43
  ridiculous, like. I'm sorry, not I'm sorry that it
• 1:07:46
  wasn't the Asus. It was, it was AMD.
• 1:07:50
  It was AMD because like the the aces were the almost every one
• 1:07:55
  of these these PC handhelds is all AMD is all AMD architecture.
• 1:08:01
  The only one that the only one that's different is the is the,
• 1:08:05
  is the Nintendo Switch and Switch to they have NVIDIA chips
• 1:08:08
  in them, you know, but yeah, all these, all these handhelds, you
• 1:08:13
  know, have basically there's one out there that has Intel, but
• 1:08:16
  you know, but that one kind of crashed and burned.
• 1:08:21
  So did Intel, so. Yeah, but but yeah, so, yeah, so
• 1:08:28
  it was AMD that I was trying to get the guarantee.
• 1:08:30
  I was trying to get the buy in. You know, I was like, hey, like,
• 1:08:33
  like we'll go in with you. But like you got to you got to
• 1:08:35
  execute like this to like have XYZ number chips.
• 1:08:39
  And Microsoft got cold feet and so they ran to they ran an Asus
• 1:08:44
  to partner up and they're like, hey, and they're like, hey, do
• 1:08:47
  what you want, do what you want with this.
• 1:08:49
  And we're just going to make a streamlined OS, which the Xbox
• 1:08:53
  experience, it's not a bad, it's not bad.
• 1:08:55
  But I mean, like there's still no real, there's, there's still
• 1:08:57
  no true hibernate mode. The hibernate mode is still done
• 1:09:01
  through the through the Asus Armory crate.
• 1:09:04
  And guess what? I have lost some data because
• 1:09:08
  because a Windows Update out prioritizes the hibernation
• 1:09:11
  mode. Shocking.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah, sorry. So it's like, so it's like you
• 1:09:16
  want it. It's like you don't want to be a
• 1:09:18
  Windows machine, but you're still acting like a Windows
• 1:09:21
  machine. Like get it together, you know,
• 1:09:24
  you know, now I'm at a point where like now I'm at a point
• 1:09:27
  where like, I just save constantly.
• 1:09:29
  And, and that's wild because, because like, you know,
• 1:09:35
  Microsoft was supposed to be making this more of a console
• 1:09:37
  like experience. And we all know, like, you know,
• 1:09:39
  when you put your when you put your Xbox Series in, in standby
• 1:09:42
  mode, nothing short of a power outage, you know, makes it
• 1:09:48
  restart. Yeah, that's Yikes.
• 1:09:55
  Yeah, yeah. So I'd still recommend,
• 1:09:58
  honestly, I'd recommend that. Save this, get the ROG Ally X,
• 1:10:01
  save the money. And you know what?
• 1:10:03
  Here's a cheat code. Buy buy an open box 1 if you can
• 1:10:06
  find it. My my ROG Ally X is open box 1.
• 1:10:10
  My ROG Ally was brand new straight from straight from
• 1:10:14
  Asus, but my ROG Ally XI bought an open box at Best Buy.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah, also, like, I mean, obviously if you're not into the
• 1:10:24
  Xbox ecosystem, don't even bother with that, right.
• 1:10:26
  Like I, I feel like, I feel like console gamers specifically, you
• 1:10:32
  know, if you're APC gamer, you're probably getting a Steam
• 1:10:35
  Deck or like, you know, I would say like, Oh well, what about
• 1:10:39
  games like Destiny? But like also you're probably
• 1:10:42
  playing that on PC with mouse keyboard and you want to be at
• 1:10:44
  your desk if you're playing on PC.
• 1:10:46
  So like. Are the Steam Decks back on sale
• 1:10:48
  yet? I mean there there's only one in
• 1:10:51
  stock, it's the 512 OLED. It's literally the only one
• 1:10:54
  they've been selling for like the last month.
• 1:10:57
  Actually no, it still says out of stock on on when I go to when
• 1:10:59
  I go to my steam page. OK.
• 1:11:01
  Well, then I mean then it's out of stock, but like it's just
• 1:11:05
  like man, if if you're a console gamer and you're like, you might
• 1:11:11
  as well either get a switch or wait for this PlayStation
• 1:11:13
  handheld. You know, like that PlayStation
• 1:11:15
  handheld for you know, 500 bucks and you can play PlayStation 4-5
• 1:11:20
  and six games on it. Like that's to me, that's it
• 1:11:25
  seems like a pretty good deal. I don't know about you, Laurent.
• 1:11:27
  I just, you know, obviously the console will be like the high
• 1:11:32
  fidelity version that you play on your TV and then this one
• 1:11:34
  will be like, oh, well, this is where I play my games at, you
• 1:11:37
  know, 1080P30 frames a second or whatever, or rage tracing turned
• 1:11:41
  off or, or whatever, whatever. But like, you know, I mean, I
• 1:11:47
  mean, it, it'll probably do similar things that the Switch
• 1:11:49
  does, right? Where like if you plug it into
• 1:11:50
  the dock, it adds more power and adds more whatever to it.
• 1:11:54
  But yeah, it's, I don't know, man, these, these these machines
• 1:12:01
  are getting way too. I mean, the, the ecosystems that
• 1:12:06
  confuse me the most right now. Obviously the Xbox One.
• 1:12:09
  But like, I just, I'm, I'm really confused at the Steam
• 1:12:13
  machine, you know, especially if the, if it's going to be as much
• 1:12:16
  as a PlayStation 5 Pro and it's going to be weaker, like, yeah,
• 1:12:19
  I don't know, man. Like I, I don't, I don't
• 1:12:21
  understand why it's like that, you know, and, and I mean, I
• 1:12:26
  guess it's modular, right? It's it's mod.
• 1:12:28
  You can kind of take it apart and put add things to it, right?
• 1:12:31
  Like theoretically, but I just. I just don't understand what it
• 1:12:36
  exists for at this point. I've been like this since they
• 1:12:41
  announced it. I was like, I was like, did we?
• 1:12:43
  I, I like the, I like the novelty of it, but I was like,
• 1:12:46
  do we really need this? You know?
• 1:12:48
  Yeah, because because at the end of the day, like, like anyone
• 1:12:53
  who buys this, you're still not going to be able to buy to play
• 1:12:56
  triple APC titles on this. This is going to be, this is
• 1:12:59
  going to be just like the Steam Deck, the ROG Ally, the Legion,
• 1:13:02
  go all over again, you know? Yeah, but I mean, I feel like, I
• 1:13:07
  feel like the handheld experience at least gives you an
• 1:13:11
  excuse to have lower power, right?
• 1:13:13
  Like, yes, yeah, you know what? You know what?
• 1:13:15
  I'll be honest with you. Like this saved me from spending
• 1:13:19
  a couple $1000 on a gaming laptop.
• 1:13:22
  This really saved me like cuz cuz the gaming laptop I had
• 1:13:26
  priced out was $2600 and guess what I bought my first ROG ally
• 1:13:32
  for 600 saving $2000. And you played it religiously.
• 1:13:37
  I mean, you still do, but I mean, like you, there were,
• 1:13:40
  there was a point where like you weren't even playing PC games.
• 1:13:43
  You're literally just laying in bed playing that.
• 1:13:45
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean even, yeah,
• 1:13:49
  like even though it doesn't even play Monster Hunter Wilds the
• 1:13:52
  way the way I wanted to, like I'm still playing every other
• 1:13:55
  day. Like I'll get on my PC, play
• 1:13:57
  Monster Hunter Wilds and you know I'll I'll be in bed playing
• 1:14:01
  Front Mission 3. Yeah.
• 1:14:03
  I mean, that's, you know, I mean that's.
• 1:14:09
  Yeah, I don't know. Hey, look, Andre's in the chat.
• 1:14:12
  Andre's in the chat. Oh man, oh man, oh man.
• 1:14:16
  He's got questions, Laurent. He's got questions.
• 1:14:19
  Question for salt and pepper. OK.
• 1:14:21
  Can you have the Xbox experience on the OGX and still have
• 1:14:24
  Windows? Yes, you can.
• 1:14:26
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  Let me see down here. The base one I've heard is $900.
• 1:14:32
  Oh, we talking about the wrong ally for 900 and 1200?
• 1:14:36
  Yeah, it's Canadian money though, right?
• 1:14:38
  I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean still.
• 1:14:40
  On par. Oh, for the Steam Machine.
• 1:14:42
  Oh, OK. Oh, for the Steam Machine, well,
• 1:14:45
  it's I mean, it's rumored to be 7 or $800 here.
• 1:14:48
  Yeah. Which is which which is my point
• 1:14:51
  like for half that you can get a series S and have the same
• 1:14:55
  experience. You know what I mean?
• 1:14:56
  Like if you, I mean, if you want a, even if you're a mouse and
• 1:15:03
  keyboard gamer, like Xbox has mouse and keyboard support.
• 1:15:07
  So like you can literally have it for half the price and have
• 1:15:12
  the the play anywhere games, you know, you can play on your PC or
• 1:15:16
  whatever. But I mean those are few and far
• 1:15:18
  between at this point, but. Wait, Andre, you said the OGX,
• 1:15:23
  were you talking about the the white rock outlet or the black
• 1:15:25
  one? Which one were you talking
• 1:15:27
  about? Because if I'm not mistaken, the
• 1:15:29
  the Xbox experience can be on both of them, but oh, the black
• 1:15:33
  one. Yeah, I, I have the Xbox
• 1:15:34
  experience on the black one. Yeah.
• 1:15:35
  It, it like, it's like, like I said earlier, it it it doesn't
• 1:15:39
  really give me any problems except the fact that for some
• 1:15:41
  strange reason it will not let me do the firmware update.
• 1:15:44
  And the firmware update for the RAW for the ROG Ally X has been
• 1:15:47
  out since since early February and it is now March 11th.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah. It it plays fine.
• 1:15:57
  I I, I have, I have my own like one of the I'll just use this
• 1:16:02
  one since it's right here. I have one of the bat keys
• 1:16:06
  functioning as the Xbox button one of these, the macro keys,
• 1:16:09
  because I hardly ever use them and and it doesn't get in my way
• 1:16:12
  like anyone, anyone who complaints about they're always
• 1:16:16
  hitting the the back macro buttons on these things like
• 1:16:19
  you're I want to say you're dumb, you're dumb and you're.
• 1:16:22
  Why are you squeezing it so hard?
• 1:16:25
  Well, their, their complaint, their complaint about it's so
• 1:16:27
  easy to touch like I've had, I've had.
• 1:16:29
  This I know. Years.
• 1:16:30
  And once I figured out, once I figured out that, you know,
• 1:16:34
  like, yeah, like, yeah, like it's easy to touch these things,
• 1:16:36
  guess what? I just adjusted how I grip it.
• 1:16:39
  I I mean, I've heard that on the Switch Pro controller also.
• 1:16:41
  And it's like, because the switch to Pro Controller has
• 1:16:44
  mappable buttons on the back and it's like, I don't even realize
• 1:16:48
  that they're there. Like, why are you squeezing the
• 1:16:52
  handles so hard? What are you doing?
• 1:16:54
  You know, yeah. God, stop choking that chicken
• 1:16:58
  or whatever you're doing. Like just relax a little bit.
• 1:17:03
  You don't. Have to.
• 1:17:03
  You don't have to use a depth grip on everything, brother.
• 1:17:06
  That's all I'm saying, right? Jeez.
• 1:17:11
  But yeah, so Andre says that if I'm of the mindset, if you have
• 1:17:16
  a switch to and a PS-5, you almost have every base covered.
• 1:17:19
  I would, I would say yes. I mean, obviously there's a lot
• 1:17:24
  of PC and E games that are like exclusive or whatever.
• 1:17:27
  But like, I mean, I would tend to agree.
• 1:17:29
  And you know, even when we're. Talking about purely from the
• 1:17:33
  console perspective, yes because I still feel like I still feel
• 1:17:37
  like the perfect ecosystem for almost every person that's a
• 1:17:40
  gamer if if, especially if they're APC gamer is having a
• 1:17:43
  mid, a mid to high tier level PCPS 5 and one of the versions
• 1:17:49
  of the Switch. I would say especially now
• 1:17:54
  because like Playstation's moving their first party games
• 1:17:56
  back to exclusive and they're not selling them on PC anymore.
• 1:18:00
  Which that that gives. Apparently, it's only apparently
• 1:18:06
  that since they've been putting games on PC, it's been less than
• 1:18:10
  2% of their revenue over the. Last I know how many?
• 1:18:15
  Years. Which is which is which?
• 1:18:17
  Which breaks my heart because I, you know, because and, and
• 1:18:20
  before and before anybody goes out there and says it's piracy,
• 1:18:23
  no, it's not piracy. It's not piracy.
• 1:18:26
  You wonder what the main problem is if they simultaneously
• 1:18:30
  launched the games they would have.
• 1:18:34
  They would have a tremendous sell through rate, you know.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah. And I almost wonder if like
• 1:18:40
  obviously in the short term it didn't really affect PlayStation
• 1:18:44
  5 sales because PlayStation 5 is actually trending ahead of
• 1:18:48
  PlayStation 4 now. But like, I almost wonder if
• 1:18:52
  this was like a mid to long term play of like, OK, well, the Xbox
• 1:18:57
  sure is going away. But and you know, as we know it.
• 1:19:01
  But if the Steam Machine kind of takes off and these PC handhelds
• 1:19:05
  take off, like are people going to buy these things and have
• 1:19:11
  access to more if, you know, and then not buy our box because
• 1:19:16
  they, they need to, they're, I feel like they're trying to,
• 1:19:19
  they see what Nintendo is doing essentially.
• 1:19:21
  And we need to have something to sell our box because we put a
• 1:19:24
  lot of R&D into our box. We put a lot of development time
• 1:19:27
  into our box. You know, our games will be
• 1:19:30
  optimized for our box, right? I mean, you can go all the way
• 1:19:34
  back to the PS3 and look and see like, look how amazing games
• 1:19:38
  like The Last of Us and Uncharted looked on the PS3.
• 1:19:42
  But then every 3rd party game ran worse, you know?
• 1:19:44
  Yeah, yeah. So they'll always have that
• 1:19:48
  optimization in their back pocket.
• 1:19:50
  Plus, like if they really do release this handheld, like
• 1:19:55
  they'll be, they'll be fighting Nintendo, especially if you're
• 1:19:59
  not a Nintendo fan. Like people will migrate,
• 1:20:01
  migrate off the Switch so fast over to PlayStation.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah. That's true.
• 1:20:05
  That's true, you know. Here's like, you know, as much
• 1:20:09
  as I love the Switch too, you know, and I'm a Nintendo fan,
• 1:20:11
  there are people who own Switches and Switch twos.
• 1:20:16
  They have the handheld because they want to play games on the
• 1:20:19
  go, not because they're Nintendo fans, you know.
• 1:20:22
  And so like, if PlayStation puts that out, I mean, you know, on
• 1:20:27
  Crossroads, La Ron, back in the day, you know, you and Austin
• 1:20:31
  and when I was on, we would talk about how the Vita was
• 1:20:34
  essentially like the Switch before the Switch for indie
• 1:20:37
  games, you know, and how great that was.
• 1:20:40
  And the Vita walked so the Switch could run.
• 1:20:43
  And now the Switch to is sprinting.
• 1:20:46
  If PlayStation can recapture even half of that magic,
• 1:20:49
  essentially, and you can play PlayStation five and six games
• 1:20:52
  on it. Like, I mean, Nintendo, I wonder
• 1:20:56
  if they're even like, I wonder how much they are shaking at
• 1:21:01
  that idea, you know, 'cause like, that thing's going to be
• 1:21:05
  more powerful than the Switch, too.
• 1:21:10
  Plus the Plus PlayStation will recapture their home territory
• 1:21:13
  in Japan if they release a handheld, which is even scarier
• 1:21:16
  to Nintendo I think than the overall concept.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah, just to just to point something out here real quickly
• 1:21:22
  because like you know what now just said it like it was like a
• 1:21:25
  2% increase in sales for for for PlayStation putting their games
• 1:21:29
  out there. Let me let me just go through
• 1:21:32
  the list of games I have from the PlayStation library and I
• 1:21:34
  have almost every PlayStation game that was ported over to the
• 1:21:38
  PCI have almost everyone. So let me see if we start with
• 1:21:41
  the Uncharted legacy of thieves collection.
• 1:21:43
  I bought that I bought that day one.
• 1:21:45
  So I bought that for 60 bucks Returnal.
• 1:21:50
  Returnal. I didn't buy that day one on PC
• 1:21:52
  like I bought it on a sale and I got it for like a for like a
• 1:21:55
  like 30 some odd dollars. Like it was $60.00 Horizon 0
• 1:21:59
  Dawn. I bought that.
• 1:22:02
  Actually, I can't even say I bought that.
• 1:22:04
  I got that for free because like I built a computer and I got a
• 1:22:06
  free code for that game because I bought the right hardware.
• 1:22:10
  So yeah, I didn't, I didn't technically buy that game.
• 1:22:14
  Let me see. I just said Returnal.
• 1:22:16
  Oh, Ghost of Sushima bought that on sale, bought that on bought
• 1:22:21
  that on PC sales. As a matter of fact, bought that
• 1:22:22
  on a really good PC sale. I want to say that was on a
• 1:22:24
  sale. That was on a really good sale.
• 1:22:27
  I can say that much. What else?
• 1:22:30
  Ratchet and Clank. I bought that day one.
• 1:22:32
  So $60.00 for that one. Hold on, there's another.
• 1:22:38
  Oh, Spider Man, The Spider Man remastered one I bought that day
• 1:22:43
  one. Miles Morales, I bought that on
• 1:22:44
  sale. Spider Man 2, I can't remember
• 1:22:49
  because I have, I actually have that one in PS-5, but I also
• 1:22:52
  have it in my PC library. I can't remember how I bought
• 1:22:55
  that one, but yeah. Am I missing?
• 1:22:58
  I feel like I feel like there's AI feel like there's one or two
• 1:23:00
  more games. But I just scanned my library
• 1:23:02
  and I. Both.
• 1:23:04
  Both God of War games, Horizon. Oh, I got, yeah.
• 1:23:06
  God of War Ragnarok, I bought, I got that on sale.
• 1:23:09
  Yeah. Wait, I I wait.
• 1:23:12
  I don't have this. Two games sold on par.
• 1:23:15
  It's so funny. Only only two games sold on par
• 1:23:18
  with their PlayStation counterparts, right?
• 1:23:20
  Which is hell Divers 2IN Days Gone are the two games that sold
• 1:23:24
  like incredibly well. Oh, I don't have Forbidden West.
• 1:23:29
  Yeah, I don't have Forbidden WI Don't.
• 1:23:31
  I don't even know why I forgot about that game.
• 1:23:32
  I don't have Horizon Forbidden West.
• 1:23:36
  And now like, you know, And now like, you know.
• 1:23:39
  Yeah, like go see Yote. I guess that's not coming.
• 1:23:42
  They just cancelled it a couple weeks ago.
• 1:23:44
  Apparently. That port specifically, man,
• 1:23:49
  that's a. That's a, I mean, that's a bold
• 1:23:53
  move, I feel like to like retract this major kind of move
• 1:23:57
  towards the PC, right? Like.
• 1:24:01
  Or worst case scenario, or worst case scenario, they're just
• 1:24:04
  they're going to, they're going to pop, they're going to pop
• 1:24:06
  them out years later. I mean, maybe, but.
• 1:24:11
  Just don't pull a Nintendo and and and sell them for full
• 1:24:13
  fucking price because that will piss people off.
• 1:24:17
  I mean haven't they been selling them at full price though?
• 1:24:20
  They have, yeah. But I but what I'm saying, what
• 1:24:22
  I'm saying is like, you know, like, OK, Wolverine comes out
• 1:24:26
  this year, right? If there is Wolverine like three
• 1:24:29
  years later, they can't sell it for, they can't sell it for $70.
• 1:24:33
  They can't. Sure they can't.
• 1:24:34
  They've they've got to, they can try.
• 1:24:36
  They've got to try Disney tax. They can try, but they they.
• 1:24:41
  Can the mouse needs his money? All this all I want to say is
• 1:24:45
  there are people out there be like, oh, Wolverine, Wolverine
• 1:24:48
  for PCs $70 or maybe. I don't, I mean, I almost feel
• 1:24:53
  like that's going to give them a bigger push into like, you know,
• 1:24:59
  putting almost a bigger push into like not putting it on PCs
• 1:25:05
  at that point. Yeah, I know, I know.
• 1:25:11
  I don't know man. All of the enthusiasts are going
• 1:25:13
  to pay for that. Yeah, So I don't know, man.
• 1:25:22
  I, I just think like, I feel like the messaging around the
• 1:25:29
  Xbox ecosystem is going to be even like the messaging itself
• 1:25:35
  isn't confusing at this point. I think getting people to buy in
• 1:25:41
  to that ecosystem now, especially if the price is that
• 1:25:44
  high, like, man, that's going to be it.
• 1:25:48
  That's going to be a challenge. That's going to be a challenge,
• 1:25:51
  man. Do we want to talk about the the
• 1:25:58
  specs for Project Helix real quick that seem to have come
• 1:26:02
  out? Yeah, I'll, I'll run them off
• 1:26:04
  real quickly. Yeah, let me see.
• 1:26:06
  So system code name is Magnus. Right now the CPU architecture
• 1:26:11
  is AMD Zen 6, which is supposed to have three performance core
• 1:26:15
  and 8 compact cores. What does that mean exactly?
• 1:26:19
  I was about to say don't get me a line because I don't know
• 1:26:21
  specifically specifically what that what that means.
• 1:26:25
  Ask me again next week and I'll have a I'll have a better
• 1:26:27
  description for you on that the GPU architecture is AMD our DNA
• 1:26:32
  5, which is which is the current thing for AMD tech right now
• 1:26:36
  with 68 compute units. OK, so the memory is
• 1:26:41
  interesting, 48 gigabytes of GDDR 7, a dedicated NPU.
• 1:26:50
  And let's see, the ecosystem is supposed to be Windows 11 Xbox
• 1:26:54
  mode, so more the Xbox experience.
• 1:26:56
  You know, it's the target for this is native 4K at 120 frames
• 1:27:02
  per second. We'll see what happens.
• 1:27:05
  And yeah, the estimated price range is anywhere from 999 to
• 1:27:08
  1399. That's crazy man.
• 1:27:13
  Like do they what? I'm just really confused at why
• 1:27:22
  they think they can sell a console at this price, man.
• 1:27:24
  Like I mean, even $750 for the PS-5 Pro is like, that is
• 1:27:33
  ridiculous in my mind. I mean, I know people are buying
• 1:27:36
  it, but like this could potentially be 250 to $500 more
• 1:27:41
  than that. And it's like, how can you
• 1:27:45
  justify spending like with those specs?
• 1:27:49
  Laron, how much do you think this box should cost?
• 1:27:53
  You know I I trust in your the PC gaming knowledge.
• 1:27:59
  With those with those specs. Yeah.
• 1:28:03
  I mean shit like the honestly, this is bleeding edge and if you
• 1:28:08
  look at it compare. OK, so so let me see something
• 1:28:13
  here. Let's go back.
• 1:28:13
  That's in six, isn't it? Huh.
• 1:28:16
  This is in six, Yeah, yeah, this yeah.
• 1:28:18
  The the project Helix is Zen 63 performance cores.
• 1:28:22
  That is 3 right. Three performance cores, 88
• 1:28:25
  compact cores versus the PlayStation 6 is supposed 8
• 1:28:29
  compact cores and two low power cores.
• 1:28:31
  OK. So number one, it's already it's
• 1:28:33
  already got an edge over the PlayStation 6.
• 1:28:36
  So Sony's playing it conservative here.
• 1:28:38
  You know, in that regard. Sony's also playing conservative
• 1:28:42
  on the on the amount of compute units for the for the GPU, it's
• 1:28:46
  52 to 54 or estimated compared to 68 on the Xbox side, they're
• 1:28:51
  going all out on the memory 48 gigabytes on the memory for the
• 1:28:56
  for the they're going all out on the memory 48 gigabytes of GDDR
• 1:29:01
  7 graphic graphic DDR graphics. Whereas Sony is is reportedly
• 1:29:08
  going to be somewhere in the realm of 30 to 40 gigabytes of
• 1:29:10
  GDDR 7 on a 160 bit bus. Like I said, talk to me next
• 1:29:15
  week, I'll, I'll have a better breakdown of this stuff.
• 1:29:18
  AI processing, dedicated MPU versus on the Xbox versus a GPU
• 1:29:23
  based, GPU based with newer arrays.
• 1:29:27
  Basically it's going to use eight.
• 1:29:29
  It's basically whatever PSSR is. That's basically what's going
• 1:29:32
  on. Yeah.
• 1:29:35
  Proprietary PlayStation OS versus Xbox mode.
• 1:29:38
  OK. Performance targets for the
• 1:29:39
  Helix, like I said, needed 4K at 120 frames per second.
• 1:29:43
  PlayStation 6 project is 4K ranging from 60 to 120 frames
• 1:29:48
  per second with path tracing as a focus.
• 1:29:52
  Interesting. What's the?
• 1:29:54
  Difference between path tracing and ray tracing.
• 1:29:57
  Path tracing actually let me Google that right now.
• 1:30:03
  I just. Like if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:30:05
  If I'm not mistaken, path tracing is like the is it Patch
• 1:30:08
  tracing is more advanced. It's more advanced form of ray
• 1:30:12
  tracing. It's it's supposed to be
• 1:30:14
  heavier. Also path tracing.
• 1:30:17
  Path tracing can be found in Resident Evil 9 right now,
• 1:30:20
  depending on what system you're playing it on.
• 1:30:28
  And then, and then, and then. Here's.
• 1:30:29
  And. Then here's the kick in the
• 1:30:31
  pants. They Microsoft quietly retires.
• 1:30:35
  This is an Xbox marketing campaign.
• 1:30:37
  All of their announcement posts have been archived.
• 1:30:42
  No shock there. No, I'm not shocked.
• 1:30:46
  I just opened Wario 64, said it tweeted it up.
• 1:30:51
  Yeah. And then, and then as far as
• 1:30:54
  pricing goes, Sony is shooting for somewhere between 500 and
• 1:30:57
  $600.00 for the PlayStation 6. And we're already told you like
• 1:31:01
  you can go upwards from 1000 to $1400 for the for the project
• 1:31:04
  Helix. Man, this is and I I just, I
• 1:31:15
  mean, if Playstation's going to come out that cheap, like even
• 1:31:19
  if you have a library invested on Xbox, like why would you
• 1:31:22
  spend that money on that? You know, like, I don't know,
• 1:31:25
  man. Like, I mean, I guess it's fair,
• 1:31:28
  but also I don't know, I just feel like people are into like
• 1:31:36
  we're in an era where like convenience and things being
• 1:31:41
  quote UN quote good enough. Trump's the premium quality at
• 1:31:46
  this point, right? Like people, people, you know
• 1:31:50
  the, the let me back up a minute.
• 1:31:55
  The collector of like 4K Blu rays, right?
• 1:31:58
  Which is like the ultimate kind of way to watch a movie.
• 1:32:03
  Essentially, how many people subscribe to Netflix and watch
• 1:32:06
  would rather watch that than Blu-ray?
• 1:32:08
  And how many people even know or even notice the difference?
• 1:32:12
  You know what I mean? Like, and I think this, I mean,
• 1:32:17
  I, I hate to keep bringing up the switch, but look, look how
• 1:32:21
  many people bought games on switch because of the
• 1:32:23
  convenience, right? Of like taking it with them, you
• 1:32:27
  know, instead of like, I mean, the Witcher sold like 3,000,000
• 1:32:32
  units on the switch years after it came out on the other
• 1:32:35
  consoles and on PC. Why?
• 1:32:39
  You know, like it's clearly the worst place to play that game,
• 1:32:42
  but it was a big RPG you could take on the go with you.
• 1:32:47
  And obviously CD project made it easy for you to transfer your
• 1:32:51
  saves from PC to the Switch. So like, you know, there's that
• 1:32:55
  aspect, but like, I don't know, man.
• 1:32:59
  I just, I just feel like the PlayStation again, even though
• 1:33:04
  it's not as powerful, it's going to, it's just people are going
• 1:33:07
  to trend towards that. So I don't know man.
• 1:33:17
  It's, it's just, I also like we're at a point of like
• 1:33:21
  diminishing returns on these consoles too, like.
• 1:33:24
  We are we. Yeah, we've been there.
• 1:33:26
  Yeah, you know, I mean, like, yes, over the last decade or so,
• 1:33:31
  you can definitely see graphical fidelity enhancements and
• 1:33:34
  everything, but like, in all seriousness, how much different
• 1:33:39
  does a PlayStation 4 game look compared to a PlayStation five
• 1:33:45
  game? You know, like, like how much,
• 1:33:50
  how noticeable is it really? You know, I I don't know, I just
• 1:33:55
  feel like games have looked good enough for a long time.
• 1:33:57
  Maybe that's just because I'm old, who knows?
• 1:34:00
  But I mean, the the two biggest games in the world, three
• 1:34:06
  biggest games in the world right now are Minecraft, Roblox and
• 1:34:08
  Fortnite, you know, and like in GTA5, an Xbox 360 games, people
• 1:34:15
  clearly don't care what games look like, you know what I mean?
• 1:34:20
  So well anyways, Lauren, thank you for reading those specs.
• 1:34:30
  I I will watch these boxes with great interest, as I will.
• 1:34:35
  Too, I will too, because if anything, I just want to see, I
• 1:34:37
  just want to see how they how they all slug it out like I
• 1:34:41
  don't know, you know what I'm going to, I'm going to say this
• 1:34:43
  and people are probably going to think I'm sarcastic, but I'm
• 1:34:45
  really rooting for X for the Xbox project Helix, but I'm not.
• 1:34:48
  I am too. I'm not rooting for it if it's
• 1:34:51
  going to be 1000 to $1400, you know, I'm not, I'm not rooting
• 1:34:55
  for it like I mean as. Somebody who primarily plays
• 1:34:58
  their games on Xbox, you know, like I would really like Xbox to
• 1:35:03
  make some smart decisions and theoretically like merging it
• 1:35:06
  with the Windows Store and having the Universal Windows
• 1:35:08
  platform be kind of your Microsoft gaming store has made
• 1:35:12
  a lot of sense, right? Like that makes sense on paper.
• 1:35:17
  You know what I mean? Like don't, but don't fuck it
• 1:35:20
  up. Don't make another Games for
• 1:35:21
  Windows I debacle. Yeah.
• 1:35:25
  And like. Here's the thing, on paper,
• 1:35:28
  their strategy is sound, right? We're like, oh, if you buy a
• 1:35:32
  game on Xbox, you get the PC version.
• 1:35:36
  You know, we're making the universal gaming platform or
• 1:35:39
  whatever, right? The Universal Windows platform.
• 1:35:40
  That's what it's called, right? So like, that's cool.
• 1:35:45
  And then, you know, I don't want to why did I put these on stage?
• 1:35:50
  I don't want this, you know, and you buy it on Xbox, you get it
• 1:35:57
  on PC. The Game Pass, you know,
• 1:35:59
  ultimate kind of thing, like Game Pass just needs to be 1
• 1:36:03
  skew or two skews, right? Like the game.
• 1:36:06
  They need to adjust the Game Pass skew thing.
• 1:36:08
  There's five, there's five skews of Game Pass now.
• 1:36:11
  They need to, like, they need to figure that out.
• 1:36:17
  You know, the, but in theory, like if I subscribe to Game
• 1:36:21
  Pass, I can play the games on Xbox and then I can go to my PC
• 1:36:24
  and play those same games and pick up where I left off.
• 1:36:26
  And you know, by all accounts that all works, right.
• 1:36:30
  But like it the issue they're going to find themselves or the
• 1:36:35
  the the problem that they find themselves and they need to fix
• 1:36:38
  this issue, which I hope they do, is like merging the
• 1:36:42
  libraries of these of people who have purchased PC games and have
• 1:36:47
  purchased Xbox games, right. And this is the message they're
• 1:36:51
  trying to convey. I feel like, and they're not
• 1:36:54
  doing a great job of unfortunately, maybe, maybe
• 1:36:57
  Oscar Sharma will be able to convey it better.
• 1:36:59
  But like merging these platforms, merging these
• 1:37:03
  libraries and have a clear like, OK, Xbox is our great gaming
• 1:37:09
  vertical. Yes, OK, Xbox play anywhere.
• 1:37:14
  That's our thing. Xbox is a console, Xbox on PC is
• 1:37:20
  the PC platform. But the games are the games,
• 1:37:23
  right? And, and hopefully they can get
• 1:37:27
  that message straight, 'cause there are still people who are
• 1:37:29
  very confused by that. So I hope that made sense.
• 1:37:35
  I felt like I was rambling it for a second but.
• 1:37:37
  Do shit I'm I'm I'm still confused.
• 1:37:43
  I just, I feel like on paper it makes sense, but they're going
• 1:37:45
  to find a way to mess it up. And they clearly have still been
• 1:37:49
  messing it up, you know? So all right, Leron, is there
• 1:37:55
  anything else we need to hit on before we kind of wrap it up?
• 1:38:01
  I think, I think we, I think we got everything as far as this
• 1:38:04
  goes. Like, I mean, it's, it's funny
• 1:38:07
  because like it's starting to feel, it's starting to feel like
• 1:38:10
  the wild, Wild West again, you know, as far as like the gaming
• 1:38:13
  landscape goes, you know, Yeah, this almost feels like.
• 1:38:17
  This almost. Feels like the wild.
• 1:38:18
  It felt like that. This almost feels like that
• 1:38:20
  transition from like the PS1N64 Saturn era to the Dreamcast,
• 1:38:28
  GameCube, PS2, Xbox era, right? Exactly.
• 1:38:33
  That's kind of what this feels like.
• 1:38:34
  And like we, I feel like, you know, we all thought that we are
• 1:38:39
  all heading towards like, oh, games will just be available
• 1:38:42
  everywhere at some point, man. This feels like we're taking a
• 1:38:46
  big step backwards, man. And like not backwards in terms
• 1:38:52
  of like technology or anything, but like, I don't know,
• 1:38:57
  exclusives are back it feels like.
• 1:39:01
  Exclusives might be back, I don't know.
• 1:39:02
  Like all of a sudden, like the winds have changed.
• 1:39:07
  Yeah, but we'll see. We will see.
• 1:39:15
  Like I said, Microsoft don't fuck it up.
• 1:39:19
  Yeah. And like, look, at the end of
• 1:39:22
  the day, like I, I think Tasha Sharma's resume is interesting
• 1:39:32
  and it's about platform growth. And I don't care that she's not
• 1:39:37
  a gamer. Like that doesn't bother me.
• 1:39:39
  I actually feel like. I don't have a problem either.
• 1:39:42
  Like, you know, a lot of people look at Take Two as being like,
• 1:39:48
  obviously they're one of the most, most successful publishers
• 1:39:51
  out there. Guess what?
• 1:39:53
  Strauss Zelnick Not a gamer, but he understands how the business
• 1:39:59
  works and he. Understands business, yeah.
• 1:40:02
  And he understands, you know, he understands what people want
• 1:40:06
  from his game, from their games. And so, you know, if, if, if she
• 1:40:12
  can even be, you know, an eighth of what he has done for them.
• 1:40:17
  Like, you know, I'm all for it. Jim Ryan, not a gamer, not a
• 1:40:27
  gamer, you know, now he's gone and they closed like all the
• 1:40:31
  studios he purchased, but. That's a damn, that's a damn
• 1:40:36
  shame. I know, man.
• 1:40:38
  Blue point, man. Like really blue point.
• 1:40:42
  We did this last week. I can't do this again.
• 1:40:44
  Yeah, I know. Yeah, let's, let's not, Let's
• 1:40:45
  not. Yeah, let's, let's get out of
• 1:40:48
  here. Everybody out there, thank you
• 1:40:52
  so much for watching and listening to this episode of the
• 1:40:54
  Boss Force podcast. You can find us live on
• 1:40:56
  Wednesday nights or on your favorite podcast service or
• 1:40:59
  YouTube later. Laurent, thank you for your time
• 1:41:03
  tonight. As always.
• 1:41:03
  I like talking about this tech type stuff.
• 1:41:07
  I, I wish you know, I should have been more prepared, but
• 1:41:12
  obviously life is getting to both of us at this point.
• 1:41:15
  Holy man, life is life is definitely lifing.
• 1:41:18
  But I do think we'll be able to have more discussions like this
• 1:41:22
  in future episodes. I'm very, I, I want to talk more
• 1:41:26
  about this side of games, which we don't talk about a whole lot,
• 1:41:30
  especially as next Gen. rumors start pouring in and you know,
• 1:41:35
  people are already talking about a switch to pro.
• 1:41:37
  And it's like, Oh my gosh, come on, guys, the console's been off
• 1:41:40
  for six months. Shut up.
• 1:41:43
  But well, I think it's, I think it's because like the word is a
• 1:41:45
  Nintendo. Nintendo didn't do Nintendo
• 1:41:48
  didn't have like the most successful holiday that they
• 1:41:50
  thought they were going to have. I think.
• 1:41:53
  I think everybody bought. Everybody that wanted one
• 1:41:56
  though. Bought 1 when it came out.
• 1:41:57
  Bought one they. Bought one.
• 1:41:59
  People are in the phase of waiting for the game that they
• 1:42:01
  want to buy it for. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:42:03
  That's and look as much as I think Nintendo's lineup last
• 1:42:09
  year was pretty decent, you know, if you if you're not like
• 1:42:15
  in the Mario Kart or Donkey Kong, everything else they put
• 1:42:17
  out was available on Switch 1, you know, so like why would you
• 1:42:23
  upgrade if you don't really care about four K 60, you know, so
• 1:42:29
  and like Mario Kart, I'm going to I'm going to sit here and
• 1:42:33
  argue that Mario Kart 8 is is better than Mario Kart world in
• 1:42:37
  my opinion. So I don't.
• 1:42:40
  Even feel like I don't even feel like that's a hot take.
• 1:42:42
  I don't. Yeah, I really don't either.
• 1:42:45
  It feel, I don't know, I've had some discussions with people
• 1:42:49
  about it, but I I don't really care for Mario Kart World all
• 1:42:54
  that much. It's fun and it's Mario Kart,
• 1:42:56
  but I think Mario Kart age is much better.
• 1:42:59
  And like I didn't, I didn't like Donkey Kong.
• 1:43:04
  I didn't really care for Donkey Kong.
• 1:43:05
  So like, I mean, my switch too now is a retro games machine at
• 1:43:10
  this point until until Fire Emblem comes out essentially.
• 1:43:15
  Which where's that release date? They randomly announced the
• 1:43:19
  Yoshi release date. Where's the where's the fireman
• 1:43:21
  one? Come on, It's all I want.
• 1:43:26
  It's all I want is Fire Emblem. I got.
• 1:43:28
  To get back on Three Houses at some point and beat that.
• 1:43:31
  Yeah, I thought about going back to it too this year before
• 1:43:34
  Fortune's Weave comes out, especially if Fortunes Weave
• 1:43:38
  ties into the Three Houses. Like I would really like to
• 1:43:42
  remember what was going on. So maybe I'll maybe tell me when
• 1:43:48
  you start playing that then not. Maybe we'll just play it
• 1:43:51
  together, see what. Happens.
• 1:43:52
  Oh, now you want to collaborate? Do a collaboration play now.
• 1:43:55
  You always want to collaborate with you, Laurent.
• 1:43:57
  You didn't want to collaborate? What's McCall?
• 1:43:59
  It monster? Our stories, too.
• 1:44:03
  That's because that game is. Holy crap you don't switch on
• 1:44:08
  the Dead Space remake is $9 right now on Steam for sale
• 1:44:13
  right now. Go get that shit.
• 1:44:15
  Go get that shit. As a matter of fact, the entire
• 1:44:18
  Dead Space franchise is on sale, so the original Dead Space is
• 1:44:21
  $8. Dead Space 2 in my opinion,
• 1:44:24
  which is the GOAT, is $4.00. Dead Space 3 is.
• 1:44:30
  Dead Space 3 is also $4.00. What's the other?
• 1:44:33
  Oh, and they got the The Awakened DLC Dead Space 3 for 5
• 1:44:36
  bucks. I, I go it's 50% off.
• 1:44:38
  So it's not really that much of A sale.
• 1:44:39
  But you know, the entire, let me see 9.
• 1:44:44
  The entire franchise is like twin is is is is just over 20
• 1:44:49
  bucks. All three.
• 1:44:51
  And that includes the remake of the first game.
• 1:44:52
  So you can get every game. That's ridiculous.
• 1:44:56
  Yeah, actually, my math is bad. 48481313, 2130 dollars, $30.
• 1:45:09
  Every game. Every game that's available on
• 1:45:11
  PC right now. When's the sale end?
• 1:45:14
  When does the sale end? It doesn't say when the sale
• 1:45:17
  ends. Hold on, hold on.
• 1:45:19
  Let me see something here. I know this game's already in my
• 1:45:22
  library. Shut up.
• 1:45:25
  You won't buy. You shouldn't buy this again.
• 1:45:27
  It's in your library. This This person ends on the
• 1:45:29
  16th. Get it, get it.
• 1:45:34
  I have. I already own all the Dead Space
• 1:45:36
  games, so I so I so yeah, I don't know, Maybe if you're
• 1:45:43
  really nice to me, maybe I will purchase somebody a copy of the
• 1:45:46
  Dead Space remake. Maybe if you're really nice to
• 1:45:48
  me. Who?
• 1:45:50
  Who's nice to you? Who you talking to?
• 1:45:53
  I don't know whoever, whoever wants to be nice to me.
• 1:45:56
  I have the Dead Space remake. OK, then you're disqualified.
• 1:46:01
  That's fine. It was like $6 on Xbox over like
• 1:46:06
  2-2 Christmases ago. Yeah, Oh yeah, it was.
• 1:46:11
  Whenever they, gosh, whenever they like, laid off all those
• 1:46:15
  people, they like put that game. Up these other games, was it
• 1:46:19
  Jesus Christ they. Just did that.
• 1:46:21
  The battlefield Battlefield's on sale this week and they just
• 1:46:23
  laid off like half the that's half the thing so well they.
• 1:46:26
  Didn't they didn't layoff? They didn't layoff motive.
• 1:46:28
  So I don't. So I don't understand why.
• 1:46:30
  They laid off some people at Motive.
• 1:46:31
  They laid off some people at motive.
• 1:46:36
  Anyways, that's being a layoff. That's.
• 1:46:38
  That's pretty good shit though. Like shit, Like get that shit.
• 1:46:42
  I'm gonna say that right now. Just get it.
• 1:46:44
  Get it? What else?
• 1:46:46
  What else is on on sale over at Steam right now?
• 1:46:48
  I don't. Know I I can't play it on my
• 1:46:53
  MacBook Pro Laron so. I can't tell you, sucks to be
• 1:46:57
  you. Fair enough.
• 1:47:03
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• 1:47:05
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• 1:47:07
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• 1:47:09
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